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Murph
February 2nd, 2012
3:51 pm
I’ll just let that one sit there and see who quotes it first….
CrαZy
February 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
not sure why I typed Fill instead of Feel??
Ward
February 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
Crazy- Your supporting your team player,nothing wrong with that.
Lew
February 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
“Those who are still duped”
“Ignoring that crowd”
“Go on making his analysis the appropriate way”
“Shouild probably be ignored”
“What’s the point of addressing those left behind by progress?”
“Pay no attention to that group of fringe fans left in the dust long ago”
All of this in one post. Translation – “I’m smater than you and you are totally nsignificant.”
Murph
February 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
But if you get the jersey and the shirt then nobody will see the shirt… unless you plan on wearing it outside the jersey.
I’d go either/or on the shirts rather than both, personally.
Ward
February 2nd, 2012
3:54 pm
All have a good one! Going to be a fun weekend. Just hope I can stay calm for the Super Bowl? I’ll talk later tonight,and peace my friends…….
CrαZy
February 2nd, 2012
3:55 pm
The only Jerseys I own hang on the wall… I got a Braves shirt that says Jones on the back about 5 or years ago, but I’ve never worn it. Still has the tag I think.
David O'Brien
February 2nd, 2012
4:00 pm
This from AP story about strange winter: Midland, Texas, has had more snow this season than Minneapolis or Chicago.
The cherry trees in Washington, D.C. are already budding. It was pushing 70 degrees there this week.
Shaun
February 2nd, 2012
4:01 pm
Lew, I didn’t decide anything. I didn’t decide that my way was the best or that I was smarter than everyone else. The facts are there for all to see and they’ve been exposed by excellent writers and analysts, and continue to be.
Take something like OBP correlating better than any other rate or percentage stat with run scoring, for example. Now, that’s always been true, throughout the history of the game. It doesn’t take someone smarter or better to make that claim true. That claim is true and inarguable. And some knew this fact long, long ago; even before the term “sabermetrics” was invented. But for the most part this idea didn’t really take hold among the majority of baseball fans until the 1980’s and 1990’s. People realized this as an obvious fact and started writing about it and merely pointed it out. It wasn’t a matter of, “well, I think I’m smarter and my way is better, so I’m going to make up something about OBP correlating better with run scoring than any other rate or percentage stat.” No. This was already a fact, regardless of how smart or better people thought they were or were not. It was just a matter of paying attention and revealing it to those who weren’t aware of this fact.
You see, no “sabermetrician” or “sabermetrically inclined” writer, analysts, fan, etc. necessarily thinks he or she is smarter than anyone or thinks they are better than anyone. It’s just a matter of stating the obvious that some may have overlooked. And things get tense sometimes because some facts are just so obvious, that it becomes silly to challenge them, especially if it is merely on the basis of thinking that someone is just being arrogant and trying to pretend they are smarter and better than others.
If someone points out that OBP correlates better with scoring than all other rate or percentage stats, they show me in a very clear and very real way; it would be ridiculous for me to criticize that person, accusing them of thinking he or she is smarter than me and thinking that his or her way is better. That fact is there. All he or she did is point it out. Why get snarky with him or her for simply pointing out the facts and why deny the fact and why pretend that he or she is doing something disgusting and reprehensible by simply stating a fact and showing it in a very clear way?
Shaun
February 2nd, 2012
4:03 pm
ncscoots, right. But when folks like Brian Kenny address others and try to bring them along, they simply get criticized as thinking they are smarter than everyone or thinking their way is better.
ncscoots
February 2nd, 2012
4:04 pm
This from AP story about strange winter: Midland, Texas, has had more snow this season than Minneapolis or Chicago.
Mayans probably forecast that.
Will we be able to get in the celebratory WS championship parade, you think? Before it all goes to mush?
Murph
February 2nd, 2012
4:04 pm
I hope the Giants win for Ward’s sake… getting his Giants shirt/hat after a Superbowl loss is going to take the fun out of it for him.
flange1
February 2nd, 2012
4:07 pm
I think it is the obnoxious, holier than thou, look down their nose attitude that Kenney and his sort purvey that turns off the world to their story.
Same with you Shaun, just as scoots said.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
4:11 pm
After the changes were announced, the initial reaction from club officials and agents was that prominent high school prospects would be more likely to attend college than they had been previously.
Ten weeks later, scouting directors contacted by Baseball America weren’t nearly as pessimistic. The AL director doesn’t anticipate that significantly fewer top prepsters will turn pro
Gee I think that’s what I said when it all started
Lew
February 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm
Yeah – What Flange said. It ain’t the numbers. It ain’t the formulae. It’s the way the message is presented – snobbish, smarter than thou, overly sanctionious and condescending as all hell.
VaBravesFan
February 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm
I think the Nationals would be nuts to start Bryce Harper in the bigs on opening day… Regardless of how well he’s done he’s only 19. I can’t wait to watch Major League pitchers make him look silly, wouldn’t be surprised to see him get thrown at either with the attitude he has.
Murph
February 2nd, 2012
4:13 pm
nolie, you’ve got your finger on the pulse of today’s youth, that’s for sure.
Shaun
February 2nd, 2012
4:13 pm
Lew, in order for someone who makes a discovery about the game, that person needs to address those who may have the opposing view.
For example, the whole RBI debate. If someone realizes that individual hitter’s RBI totals are way too dependent on external factors to do us any good with regard to judging that hitter’s productivity and someone else thinks RBI total is extremely useful, there is going to be and needs to be some back and forth. This is not a matter of anyone thinking they are smarter or better.
But then when someone tries to address those with which they disagree, folks like you want to be critical and claim that that someone thinks he is smarter or better. So the whole debate moves nowhere. Instead of assuming someone is just bringing up disagreement because they want to prove they are smarter and better, instead of paranoia, why not be aware of the points they are making? If someone actually points out that one hitter clearly did better than another but the one who did better had a lower RBI total, instead of assuming that someone is an arrogant SOB, why not look into their argument? (I’m just using this an example. You may already realize these points about RBI total.)
VaBravesFan
February 2nd, 2012
4:14 pm
With the Nats signing Jackson that gives them a very good rotation. I see them as the 3rd best team in the division.
BravePack
February 2nd, 2012
4:17 pm
CraZy
Don’t really get your train of thought about getting a shirt with a player name on the back? First time I’ve heard someone ever say that. Don’t really get it. I can understand leaving the jerseys blank as players get traded or leave via FA these days but a shirt is usually $25 regardless if it has a name on it or not.
Shaun
February 2nd, 2012
4:18 pm
flange1, I only look down on those who, when you bring up a point that is commonly viewed as “sabermetric,” they immediately start to criticize you for being arrogant and thinking you are smarter and better than everyone. I think that’s where things start to get ugly. You disagree with someone, and bring up points to back up why, and they immediately start to criticize you instead of actually looking at and paying attention to the points and the arguments being made. Those are the folks that I think people like Brian Kenny and others should avoid. You’ve already lost those folks. Those folks will never be brought along to the rest of the modern baseball world, so why bother.
Now, the folks with which you disagree who will actually pay attention to your arguments and your points without the paranoia of just assuming you are an arrogant SOB trying to prove you are better and smarter than everyone, those are the folks with which you should engage.
Murph
February 2nd, 2012
4:19 pm
Shaun, it’s not the message, it’s the way the messenger is delivering it.
I like cookies. If the guy at the grocery store told me not to buy them because they’d make me fat, I might listen. If he kicked me in the balls while telling me they’d make me fat, I’d probably not hear the message and instead concentrate on the fact that he just kicked me in the balls.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
4:19 pm
don’t know about that Murph, but I’m trained to know human nature,
and a lot of folks here were crying the major detriment of the prospect system more or less months ago
ncscoots
February 2nd, 2012
4:21 pm
With the Nats signing Jackson that gives them a very good rotation.
Wait. You’re saying that they’ve gone from not very good to very good with Jackson over Lannan? That’s an incremental improvement, not a season-changing one.
It’s a solid rotation, but un-scary. I don’t think teams are going to quake over any three pitchers they’ll see in a series with the Nats.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
4:27 pm
way the Braves hit sometimes any rotation can be scary.
that has gotta chance this year
RC
February 2nd, 2012
4:29 pm
It’s a solid rotation, but un-scary. I don’t think teams are going to quake over any three pitchers they’ll see in a series with the Nats.
I think I would be pretty unhappy if I had to face Strasburg, Gio, and Zimmermann in a 3-game series.
I get your point though, I just think they went from a good rotation to a better rotation.
ncscoots
February 2nd, 2012
4:29 pm
way the Braves hit sometimes any rotation can be scary. that has gotta chance this year
True that. They keep making outs like they’re late for the charter, even Wang and Jackson will look All-Universe.
Mike S
February 2nd, 2012
4:31 pm
I’m with scoots here. Nats have a solid rotation, no doubt. But un-scary, and plenty of question marks (Zimmermann and Strasburg’s health and potential IP caps, Gio moving to new league, Jackson’s consistently high WHIP rate, and Wang still being Wang).
Personally, strictly from the Braves perspective, I’d rather face Jackson and Wang at the back of that rotation over Lannan and Livan, as they’ve notoriously handled us over the last couple of years. Jackson and Wang seem to match up better vs. the Bravos…
VaBravesFan
February 2nd, 2012
4:31 pm
ncscoots
When you can add a effective 200 inning pitcher figured to be your 4th starter thats pretty darn good. Gio was a great pickup, and you have Strasburg and Zimmerman where the sky is limit with tho 2.
Shaun
February 2nd, 2012
4:33 pm
Murph, but that is a bad example. Buying cookies is not objectively wrong and incorrect, and you aren’t necessarily going to get fat if you buy and eat a pack of cookies every now and then.
Making the claim that we should judge a hitter’s production heavily (no pun intended) on the basis of RBI, that is objectively wrong and incorrect. If someone makes that claim and another person points out that it is wrong and why it’s wrong and examples, etc., it’s not the same as someone telling you you’ll get fat and kicking you below the equator because you bought some cookies. If someone states you are wrong and then provides all the evidence and examples to show you that you are wrong, that’s on you. You shouldn’t turn around and say that person who showed you that you are wrong and stated reasons why you were wrong is a horrible, disgusting, arrogant SOB. You’re the one who held the mistaken and misguided view. Blame yourself.
ncscoots
February 2nd, 2012
4:33 pm
I think I would be pretty unhappy if I had to face Strasburg, Gio, and Zimmermann in a 3-game series.
Might only see ‘em for 15 innings.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
4:34 pm
Lew, so you’re sayig there’s some arrogant know it all’s that come on here? Noooooooo!
Mike S
February 2nd, 2012
4:36 pm
Soph, brick wall, please.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
4:37 pm
I’d think Freeman, Heyward, Bourn and Mac are just fine with the righty Jackson replacing the lefty Lannan against a team we face so much. Also sure Howard and Utley aren’t shedding any tears either, especially Howard who can’t touch lefties
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
4:39 pm
Nats did a dumb thing replacing Lannan with a righty since the division is stacked with LHH.
RC
February 2nd, 2012
4:40 pm
I’d think Freeman, Heyward, Bourn and Mac are just fine with the righty Jackson replacing the lefty Lannan against a team we face so much. Also sure Howard and Utley aren’t shedding any tears either, especially Howard who can’t touch lefties
Howard’s not going to be touching anyone from his walking boot. I’d be suprised if he plays a game before mid-May.
flange1
February 2nd, 2012
4:44 pm
Shaun,
I really don’t want to get into this again with you, we have done too many times in the past. You have been fishing for an argument all day and you will have to find it with someone else.
The problem is not with the stats it is with the way YOU present them.
End of story.
BravePack
February 2nd, 2012
4:48 pm
Braves hitters don’t really have trouble hitting hard throwing righties, especially ones that struggle throwing strikes. I think we see Braves hitters reverting back to 2010 OBP% numbers and being more patient at the plate and taking more walks. The Braves seeing less lefties is a good thing.
Shaun
February 2nd, 2012
4:49 pm
flange1, well, hopefully this is about more than just stats. If it was merely about stats, I would be okay with using any ol’ stat, like RBI, Wins, doubles on a Tuesday in August day games. I’m not pro stats, per se. I’m more anti useless stats than I am pro-stats. I’d rather someone not mention stats at all than bring up a hitter’s RBI total and a pitcher’s Win total, just as examples.
ncscoots
February 2nd, 2012
4:53 pm
Well, it’s my belief that you win games from your top three starters with pitching, and you win games started by the back-end starters with your offense. Back-end starters almost never have nominal favorable matchups, on paper. Neutral, at best. It’s one of the reasons you plan for a .500 team record in those starts, and look to maximize your team wins from the top three in your rotation. It’s rare to have 4 and 5 starters who are so much better than their nominal counterparts that they would consistently have favorable matchups in what would ordinarily be neutral.
So, when a team improves on a back-end starter, it’s hard for me to get agitated, one way or another. The likelihood is that even a change for the better isn’t going to significantly improve a team’s wins.
You know, unless you’re replacing a total scrub back there.
flange1
February 2nd, 2012
4:54 pm
Shaun,
You are splitting hairs and missing the point. It is the presentation of you and Brian Kenney that folks have problems with.
Not the message.
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
4:57 pm
don’t know about that Murph, but I’m trained to know human nature,
and a lot of folks here were crying the major detriment of the prospect system more or less months ago
I’m not sure what I’m trained for, but that CBA sucks and most everyone can see that. We’ll see how it turns out. I still think the initial reaction is a valid concern, although not as much of an issue with the new CBA as what it does to the international players. I read an article about what the draft did to Puerto Rican baseball – although that was when they put all those kids int he Rule 4 draft.
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
5:01 pm
Back-end starters almost never have nominal favorable matchups, on paper. Neutral, at best. It’s one of the reasons you plan for a .500 team record in those starts, and look to maximize your team wins from the top three in your rotation.
Then shouldn’t we be looking to upgrade our Top 3 by perhaps using the pitching depth to trade for a better 1-2-3 starter? I know that’s not what you meant, but at times I look at our rotation and see great depth, but wish we had a stronger frontline guy. Not a big deal, but something I think of once in a while.
doug
February 2nd, 2012
5:01 pm
You’re anti “useless” stats. You are talking about how front offices evaluate players. Me and the guys aren’t going to get into advanced stats discussion, we’re just going to talk about a player not being able to drive in a runner from second base. Same with me and my young son. You and the front office guys can evaluate players however you want, but the common fan (which most of us are) don’t care about the advanced stuff in everyday discussions (i think most of these here qualify as).
OK, I’ll go back to lurking and working.
Shaun
February 2nd, 2012
5:04 pm
ncscoots, well, the problem with that is that often times a team’s number one starter might go against another team’s number three or four starter. So I don’t think teams should or do concern themselves with trying to match-up their starters with other teams starters and things of that sort. They are simply trying to improve where they can, whether it’s the front-end of the rotation or the back-end, offense, defense.
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
5:07 pm
I think it’s all about how serious you want to get with baseball when it comes to advanced stats or just getting mad at a guy because he always seems to never drive a run in.
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
5:10 pm
I don’t bring up adjusted OPS to my friends when we’re dicussing baseball – they don’t care for such things. I do so here because I know some of the people in this forum pay attention to that sort of thing, as do I. It’s all about the forum you’re in, I think.
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
5:12 pm
You are splitting hairs and missing the point. It is the presentation of you and Brian Kenney that folks have problems with.
Not the message.
Pretty much. Wish there could be some sort of a middle ground. I always liked the was Jon Sciambi looked at it. He’s great. Big fan and wish he was doing Sunday Night Baseball.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
5:13 pm
Well, it’s my belief that you win games from your top three starters with pitching, and you win games started by the back-end starters with your offense. Back-end starters almost never have nominal favorable matchups, on paper…scoots
which makes for a big advantage when you do have strong #4 and #5 guys e.g. a number of 90s Braves teams, Millwood was a force @ 4 and 1998 with Maddux,Glavine,Smoltz,Millwood and Nragle made the regular season something of a given, at least for baseball
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
5:18 pm
We’ll see how it turns out….Efrim
I just quoted your link that said they now do not see many players refusing to sign, and i’ll bet a lot of money that is how it turns out…. a small difference perhaps, but nothing like what many thought. as to other aspects of it, which I did not discuss back then, you might be right, it is tougher, but they’ll get used to that too.
kenhotlanta
February 2nd, 2012
5:22 pm
I don’t have a problem with Brian Kenney, I DVR his show every day and learn a lot every time I watch it. I find Larry Bowa and Mitch Williams a lot more annoying, although I realize they are not discussing the same subjects. On the other hand, I love Kevin Millar and Harold Reynolds regardless of their point of view…I can make up my own mind about what they are talking about, but Kenney’s show is different, he is presenting facts backed with data and not necessarily his opinion. Maybe it’s just a personal preference…I enjoy some posters on here more that others, but if I were to meet all of you in a room, my perceptions might be totally different. Your mileage may vary.
Murph
February 2nd, 2012
5:23 pm
Buying cookies is not objectively wrong and incorrect, and you aren’t necessarily going to get fat if you buy and eat a pack of cookies every now and then.
You have got to be the most incredibly dense person I’ve ever come across in my years on the interweb. I am not being facetious when I say that I suspect you have some kind of disorder like Asperger’s Syndrome or a mild form of autism. Singular focus and inability to understand the viewpoint of others is a primary trait of those living with these kinds of mental handicaps.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
5:24 pm
no problem with Kenney myself, though I don’t watch all that much, and I agree about Williams(and idiot) and Bowa(and arsehole)
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
5:25 pm
but they’ll get used to that too.
And the sport will be worse for it. Getting used to it doesn;’t mean status quo and everything is cool.
I just quoted your link that said they now do not see many players refusing to sign, and i’ll bet a lot of money that is how it turns out….
I’m sure I can find another article that was written explaining how much they think it sucks….and I’m sure there will be articles coming out between now and June with guys complaining about it. No one scouts opinion is changing my mind, sorry.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
5:26 pm
so if he has that Murph, is it nice to rub his nose in it? You should be loving and gentle, you know kinda like I always are…..
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
5:27 pm
hide and watch, there will be few more players not signing than there were B4
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
5:28 pm
anyway it is human nature to complain about changes that are perceived as negative in an overstated reaction
Shaun
February 2nd, 2012
5:33 pm
doug, in terms of discussions related to on the field stuff, I don’t think we are that different. We may put things in different terms. You say, “drive in a runner from second base.” I would talk in terms of a player being able to get a pitch he can drive or crush, laying off of pitches he can’t and putting together good plate appearances to get some extra bases or, at the very least, get on base. And, if a guy is making outs, he’s crushing the ball because you can’t do much about a good defensive play or a liner right at the defender.
Regarding pitching, it’s about pounding the strikezone, changing speeds, and being able to miss bats, limit walks and keep the ball in the park.
The measures of all of that should be the only stats we should concern ourselves with. The strange way of judging hitters based on hits in non-walk, non-sac plate appearances and how many runners happen to be on base and come in when a guy tattoos a ball, all that is secondary, at best.
Just give me some stats that tell me how good or bad a hitter is at crushing the baseball, getting on base, not running into outs on the basepaths, gaining some bases on the basepaths, how good a pitcher is at throwing strikes, missing bats, keeping the ball in the park, getting grounders, and that’s essentially all we need. All stats, if you are going to look at stats, should be based on this. We shouldn’t focus on how many teammates come in to score in a guy’s plate appearances or how many times a guy goes 5 innings with his team in the lead and the team ends up winning the game. The irony is that all of the “non-advanced” stats that measure things of this sort is that they complicate things, and many of the advanced stats actually simplify the game and strip it down to its essence of avoiding outs, gaining bases, getting a pitch to drive, laying off bad pitches, missing bats and keeping hitters off balance, keeping the ball in the park and getting grounders.
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
5:35 pm
hide and watch, there will be few more players not signing than there were B4
And that sucks, and shouldn’t have to happen.
anyway it is human nature to complain about changes that are perceived as negative in an overstated reaction
Ah, yes – human nature. Ya know, my brother is about to get his PHD in Atmospheric Science and this past weekend one of my friends and him were arguing about global warming and they just kept going back and forth on the subject with my friend listing other opinions from people in the industry saying it’s bogus and such. I thought about there discussion in comparison to you and I’s last discussion when posted the above comments were posted, noles.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
5:35 pm
Shaun makes it sound so simple……
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm
well I was trying to get a wee bit of a rise Efrim, I gotta admit it.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm
I blame it all on Murph…
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm
Trade Haywood for Lannan. That way having Lannan on our side to strike out Haywood.
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm
well I was trying to get a wee bit of a rise Efrim, I gotta admit it
Tisk Tisk. I would never do that to anyone here………
Of course, I did throw the “Heyward Hater” card at TenneseePaul the other day and I do feel bad about that. That was mainly to get a rise out of him.
Lew
February 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm
Tn Brian – Yep. That’s pretty much what I’m saying. There’s a few whiners running around, too.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
5:43 pm
10P is a big boy, he can handle it
Murph
February 2nd, 2012
5:46 pm
I blame it all on Murph…
All of what? Sorry, I wasn’t paying attention.
If Shaun came out of the autistic closet and said he had indeed been diagnosed as such, i would definitely be more understanding. I’m not a monster.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
5:49 pm
Anybody else excited about once again watching Brian Jordan try and discuss the game?
“Look at Haywood. This kid is special. Look at him CRUSH that ball. See. You. Lataaa. HaHaHa! I went to his house and I saw how special he was. He has dawlmonating stuff … well, Tollmmy Haanson does I mean.”
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
5:54 pm
So tell the fans about what they can expect out of Pastornicky, Brian Jordan:
“Tyla Pastornicky is a good player. I watched this kid in Gwinette and he’s special. Fans will not be disappointed, Jerome. Believe me, I saw this kid at Gwinette.”
Shaun
February 2nd, 2012
5:54 pm
Well, we know someone here feels inferior. Why else would one resort to personal attacks and slander on an internet blog’s comments section? Perhaps people accuse me of arrogance and of thinking I’m smarter and better than everyone because they actually feel less smart. Obviously one must feel this way to slander someone in the comments section of a blog. Either that, or they haven’t grown up past 5th grade. Too bad we can’t have adult discussions.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
5:57 pm
I think Jordan feels somehow smarter and “I know something you don’t know” when he says he watched a player in Gwinette. I could personally give a damn what the player did in Gwinette as the majors are a different world. Better players, waaay more video/technology and more advanced coaching.
flange1
February 2nd, 2012
6:00 pm
slander?
Over-exagerate?
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
6:03 pm
But I like Jordan more than Gant. I find Gant extremely boring and way too predictable as an analyst/announcer.
David O'Brien
February 2nd, 2012
6:06 pm
Perhaps people accuse me of arrogance and of thinking I’m smarter and better than everyone because they actually feel less smart. — Shaun
Oh, my.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
6:07 pm
Simpson is alright too. He is a major homer, no question, but he will call guys out on the air. He can be pretty funny too. Chip? Well, he doesn’t put you to sleep at least and is a personality. What kind of personality is anybody’s opinion, but I can live with the guy.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
February 2nd, 2012
6:12 pm
Well I’m gonna go take a Coach and wipe a Shaun. Be back soon.
flange1
February 2nd, 2012
6:12 pm
Miss the point again maybe?
CB
February 2nd, 2012
6:17 pm
flange,all geniusssss are misunderstood.
jeffrey d
February 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm
How come I’m not misunderstood?
flange1
February 2nd, 2012
6:21 pm
Glad the do do is gone!
CB, how true!
CB
February 2nd, 2012
6:22 pm
You don’t have enough s’s.
Murph
February 2nd, 2012
6:23 pm
I didn’t declare that you had Asperger’s, Shaun, I simply speculated. Hence, not really slander.
jeffrey d
February 2nd, 2012
6:25 pm
I think it’s been about a year
CB
February 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm
Anybody seen Bat or Snotboogie?
jeffrey d
February 2nd, 2012
6:28 pm
Yeah, what happened to Snotboogie? And Roman Gal?
jeffrey d
February 2nd, 2012
6:28 pm
And Trey?
CB
February 2nd, 2012
6:32 pm
I think Roman Gal got a job and things changed. I suspicion SB has changed name.
jeffrey d
February 2nd, 2012
6:36 pm
Well la dee da
McFann O O o
February 2nd, 2012
6:54 pm
Roman Gal plays Words with me…just hasn’t really had time for the Blog. She asked how things were going on here a couple months ago…
TommyP
February 2nd, 2012
7:09 pm
Wow….Nats really going for it. Didn’t see the Edwin Jackson signing coming at all.
He’ll put up solid numbers. Nats have more of a pitcher’s park but it’s not drastic. Plus he’s back in a pitcher’s league so he’ll fare better.
Nice signing. Strasburg, Gio, Zimmerman, Edwin Jackson….they’ll compete the whole year.
nolie
February 2nd, 2012
7:11 pm
Jackson is moved around an awful lot. I’m not sold on him as being all that special
jeffrey d
February 2nd, 2012
7:13 pm
Jackson doesn’t look like he’s anything special
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
7:17 pm
Perhaps people accuse me of arrogance and of thinking I’m smarter and better than everyone because they actually feel less smart. — Shaun
This is why people dislike you, dude. Such a waste of talent too. Because you’re a smart guy, just not smart in knowing when you just need to stop and relax.
Steve from OH
February 2nd, 2012
7:20 pm
Whoa, Shaun is still going?
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
7:22 pm
I like Edwin because he’s durable and has put up a sub-4 ERA the last 3 years – still on the sunny side of 30 years old too. And holds his velocity deep into games. He’s not great, but man, I like him a lot more than John Lannan who can’t really miss any bats.
jeffrey d
February 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm
Because you’re a smart guy, just not smart in knowing when you just need to stop and relax.
Or being more open
jeffrey d
February 2nd, 2012
7:23 pm
open-minded, that is
Efrim
February 2nd, 2012
7:26 pm
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Going into spring, AL playoff picks (if 10): DET, TB, TEX division winners; NYY, LAA wildcards. NL: PHI, STL,ARIZ div. winners, SF, WAS WC.
What?!?! That Buster Olney is crazy…….
I actually don’t think those picks are crazy, although I like Cincy and Atlanta more than Washington even with Edwin. But not so much more to faint after seeing such a thing.
CrαZy
February 2nd, 2012
7:29 pm
BravePack 4:17 pm
CraZy,
Don’t really get your train of thought about getting a shirt with a player name on the back? First time I’ve heard someone ever say that. Don’t really get it. I can understand leaving the jerseys blank as players get traded or leave via FA these days but a shirt is usually $25 regardless if it has a name on it or not.
I’ve just always felt funny as a grown man putting another grown mans name on my back. It’s just something I think is a little weird. Especially the older I get, because more often than not the players are younger than me!!
Sopheee
February 2nd, 2012
7:30 pm
RG’s a working girl now. How quickly they grow up.