10:55 pm January 23, 2012, by David O'Brien
February 2nd, 20123:17 am
ChattTownBrian-Don’t give Philie Fans some Ammo to throw at us. Sh…………Be very….. very …….quiet…….
February 2nd, 20123:21 am
I’m trying to take my mind off the Super Bowl,and nothing seems to be working.Just hope the Giants can pull it out.
February 2nd, 20123:35 am
All have a good one! Peace My friends,and talk tomorrow.Don’t let Philly Troll Fred bother you. He’s as ugly as his Momma,and that is Troll Ugly.
February 2nd, 20124:46 am
bbq sandwich for breakfast
if i had the budweiser to
go with it
it would be the true
breakfast of champions
February 2nd, 20125:25 am
Fielder hit 12 home runs in Milwaukee to center field or left field and, according to Kelly’s tool, every one of them fell short of the distance required to get over the wall in Detroit. Six of them wouldn’t have even made it to the warning track. The same held in 2010. In fact, the last time Fielder hit an opposite field home run that would have been out in Detroit was 2009. (It’s worth nothing that ESPN Stats & Info took a look at this phenomenon using Hit Tracker and got slightly different results. However, the theme is the same: Fielder won’t hit nearly as many opposite-field homers in Detroit.)
February 2nd, 20126:25 am
Only the Shadow knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men.
The sinister Hiber Nation, led by a dirtbag, Phil “The Furry Fury” and his Hoary Marmot girlfriend, are holed up somewhere in Pennsylvania. If, Phil happens to see The Shadow lurking about, he’ll get new digs in some erie place and leave the Banks in Punxsutawny alone. Otherwise, he’ll spring into action.
jeffrey doo doo
February 2nd, 20127:32 am
It’s worth nothing that ESPN Stats & Info took a look at this phenomenon using Hit Tracker and got slightly different results
Noting? An instance where spellcheck makes a huge difference
February 2nd, 20128:52 am
Maybe it’s not a typo.
February 2nd, 20128:53 am
Phil The Furry Fury – Plays drums for Motorhead?
February 2nd, 20128:59 am
Different band. This Phil played for Lemmy’s Lemmings.
February 2nd, 20129:02 am
Lemmy just looks like he jumped off a cliff.
February 2nd, 20129:03 am
Or – more likely – that he fell off a cliff.
I saw that Philly Fred was on here talking smack. Seriously, anyone who thinks Philly is going to fold and go away is whistling past the graveyard. When their players get old, as long as they’re willing to spend the cash, they can put those superstars into bench roles (at high dollars) and just hire the next big name.
Big budget gives you a lot of ability to play fast and loose.
I figured the Yankees would be starting to suffer with their monster contracts. They can always just push AJ and CC down to 4th and 5th in the rotation and buy the next big thing for their number 1.
As long as you don’t have 25 really bad contracts, big budget can manage to field a good team year after year indefinitely.
February 2nd, 20129:11 am
The Phillies will be fine until they lose out a coupole years in a row (when that might be is debatable and probably won’t be for a few years). When they do lose, the attendance will drop and so will the payroll.
February 2nd, 20129:17 am
abwright, When their players get old, as long as they’re willing to spend the cash, they can put those superstars into bench roles (at high dollars) and just hire the next big name.
i dont think the phillies will survive the age of their starters until they develop another star. dont forget, rollins, utley, howard, hamels, victorino, burrell are all guys they developed, and won the world series with. you just cant replace as much talent as they have on the free agent market.
February 2nd, 20129:21 am
Would not surprise me if they don’t re-sign Hamels.
February 2nd, 20129:25 am
I am looking forward to seeing Heyward’s retooled swing. Myself, I would love to see him get closer to the plate and gain some power.
February 2nd, 20129:27 am
Somehow, I don’t see them paying Howard $20 mil, Utley $15+ mil, or Rollins $11 mil to be bench players.
The groundhog saw his shadow today, so I guess it’s 6 more weeks of … highs in the mid-60s. Excellent! (Actually, today it’s supposed to reach almost 70 here in Atlanta.)
February 2nd, 20129:31 am
lew Would not surprise me if they don’t re-sign Hamels.
me neither. “4 aces” didnt last long, hunh? about half a season?
they have an awesome team, obviously, but they have a chance of getting really top heavy soon. in 2012 alone, they have $76.5mil committed to 4 players. howard, utley, lee, and halladay.
February 2nd, 20129:33 am
DAP – And add another $11 mil for Paplebon.
February 2nd, 20129:34 am
AND $11 mil for Rollins, too. That’s almost $100 mil on six players.
February 2nd, 20129:38 am
Amaro is a really bad GM, several of those contracts will come back to kick them. Howard and Papelbon in particular.
February 2nd, 20129:57 am
I am looking forward to seeing Heyward’s retooled swing. Myself, I would love to see him get closer to the plate and gain some power. — CB
Gonna do a new blog later today after I get back from ballpark. I’ll relay what Chipper said about technical aspect of Heyward’s swing that he’s been working on this month with the new hitting coaches.
“The ball is jumping off the bat now close to what it was in spring training 2010,” Chipper said, adding that Heyward still has work to do but it making significant progress. He’s been hitting with him for the past month, two or three times a week at Turner Field.
February 2nd, 20129:59 am
Amaro is just trying to do whatever he can to extend the division streak and give them a chance to win in the postseason, however I don’t think he’s the greatest GM….
Also, I don’t think Hamels re-signs with them. Dodger blue or Yankee pinstripes in 2013.
February 2nd, 201210:03 am
In 2013, the Phillies will have a little over 104 million invested in Ryan Howard, Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay, Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley and Jonathan Papelbon. Now, that still leaves plenty of cash for them to re-sign Cole Hamels, but keep in mind that Shane Victorino is also a free agent and Hunter Pence will be up for his last arbitration eligible season – he made 10.4 million for 2012.
February 2nd, 201210:08 am
But I do think people need to keep in mind that the Phils are spending 170 million on payroll this year, and there is a good chance that they keep that number for 2013 and 2014. So if they aren’t re-signing Cole Hamels, they’ll just invest those dollars into other free agents. Maybe they say good bye to Victorino and bring in Michael Bourn. It’s not like they will let Hamels and Victorino walk and pocket the cash. They haven’t done that recently and there is no reason to think they will next year. Also, to think they will all of a sudden suck and win 75 games so that there fans won’t show up is unrealistic. They aren’t going to suck…..anytime soon. Not with 170 million dollar payroll.
February 2nd, 201210:09 am
Top of am Lew…….
Gonna be 71 degrees today on Hartwell…………
McFann O O o
February 2nd, 201210:10 am
Brava Das is it? Channeling your inner German?
Yup! There is some in there somewhere…
February 2nd, 201210:13 am
Only gonna get to 67° in Woodstock. Brrrr….
February 2nd, 201210:24 am
He’s been hitting with him for the past month, two or three times a week at Turner Field
Another reason I don’t get why some people have an unending hate for Chipper…he’s not only one of the team’s best hitters (still), he’s helping his teammates too
February 2nd, 201210:27 am
In case anyone has forgotten…
My Little Pony
February 2nd, 201210:28 am
It was 85 here in Austin yesterday. Dense fog advisory in the morning added 45 minutes to my commute, then driving into the sun on the way home added another 45 minutes to my commute.
People here can’t handle driving unless it’s noon and 72 degrees. Go back to LA people.
February 2nd, 201210:40 am
Come to Atlanta, people here can’t drive at any time of the day!
February 2nd, 201210:41 am
I’m a great driver.
Be back later…light just changed
February 2nd, 201210:43 am
Braves non-roster ST invitees include pitching prospects Gilmartin, Spruill; catching prospect Bethancourt; top shortstop prospect Andrelton Simmons, 3B/1B Terdoslavich; OFs Cunningham, Durango, Gartrell, and catcher Evan Gattis (.322 w/ 22 HR at Class A Rome last year).
Most other names on list you already knew, such as minor-league free agents Drew Sutton and Josh Wilson.
Headed down to ballpark. I’ll write something up on that list when I get back.
February 2nd, 201210:44 am
Uh-oh, Mac has some competition in camp.
jeffrey d I’m a great driver.
February 2nd, 201210:45 am
DAP, February 2nd, 2012, 9:17 am … “i dont think the phillies will survive the age of their starters until they develop another star.”
Maybe they don’t, maybe they do. If they continue to spend big dollars, they can hire and retain a superstar that someone else developed. It costs more but there is very small risk that you won’t get the performance that you pay for.
The most glaring example of this in Braves’ world is Greg Maddux. Braves didn’t develop him. However, almost everyone thinks of him as a Brave.
February 2nd, 201210:46 am
jeffrey’s a girl?!?!
February 2nd, 201210:47 am
David O’Brien, February 2nd, 2012, 10:43 am … “Headed down to ballpark. I’ll write something up on that list when I get back.”
Those sweet, sweet words that herald the imminence of Spring and the return of baseball.
Ease Uh-oh, Mac has some competition in camp.
Oh, for sure…and as soon as Bethancourt gets his first hit of the Spring, the Blog will go wild…
DOB Headed down to ballpark.
What a phrase—simple, yet beautiful…
February 2nd, 201210:51 am
flange, last time I was in Atlanta I witnessed a driver get cutoff, then get out of his car at a red light and empty a full, extra large slurpee (red) into the other driver’s sunroof. The other driver just sat there, covererd in slurpee.
That was when I decided I might be better off taking the MARTA. And almost got mugged at the stop near Turner Field.
Can’t wait for my next trip!
Ease jeffrey’s a girl?!?!
February 2nd, 201210:52 am
Lew, February 2nd, 2012, 9:27 am … “Somehow, I don’t see them paying Howard $20 mil, Utley $15+ mil, or Rollins $11 mil to be bench players.”
If you’ve got the payroll and can afford to pay aging superstars to be bench players, you CAN do it. Not necessarily WILL. Maybe they don’t keep them as bench players, but rather trade them, eat a bunch of the contract, and get low level prospects for their minor league system. (See Lowe, but on a massive scale.)
All I’m saying is that I wouldn’t count on the bad contracts that Philly has extended resulting in long-term reduced competitiveness so long as they continue spending money. If you’ve got $20M to spend and Chase Utley isn’t getting it done, why not buy a free agent second baseman?
February 2nd, 201210:53 am
Here’s the complete list of Braves non-roster spring training: left-handed pitchers Yohan Flande, Sean Gilmartin and Dusty Hughes; right-handed pitchers Peter Moylan, Jason Rice, Adam Russell and Zeke Spruill; catchers Christian Bethancourt, J.C. Boscan, Evan Gattis, Matt Kennelly and Jose Yepez; infielders Ernesto Mejia, Andrelton Simmons, Drew Sutton, Joe Terdoslavich and Josh Wilson; and outfielders Todd Cunningham, Luis Durango, Stefan Gartrell and Jordan Parraz.
February 2nd, 201210:58 am
Murph, February 2nd, 2012, 10:51 am … “That was when I decided I might be better off taking the MARTA. And almost got mugged at the stop near Turner Field.”
Sounds like you need to get training to compete in the Urban Biathlon.
Our non-roster invitees would give the Mets a run for their money.
February 2nd, 201211:00 am
Yeah, we have come a long ways from slurpee throwing (true, in large part to the decreasing number of 7-Elevens).
And almost got mugged at the stop near Turner Field.
Well, maybe not so much. I take that back.
February 2nd, 201211:10 am
Southwest just started direct Austin-to-Atlanta flights… I could fly in, take a cab straight to the ballpark, watch a game, cab back to the airport, and be home before any angry Atlantans (Atlantans, Atlantaoans, huh?) could get to me.
February 2nd, 201211:17 am
You can never have too much catching help in ST to catch all the pitching on all the fields
February 2nd, 201211:19 am
Hope Mac is in the best shape of his life.
February 2nd, 201211:28 am
Oval is about the best shape we can hope for…
February 2nd, 201211:33 am
efrim Also, to think they will all of a sudden suck and win 75 games so that there fans won’t show up is unrealistic. They aren’t going to suck…..anytime soon. Not with 170 million dollar payroll.
no, of course not, but you know that isnt the issue with a top heavy team. the issue is when somebody making $20mil goes down, and you have pete orr on the bench. it hasnt hurt them so far, but as the ages go up, some of these guys wont be carrying the team anymore. what im saying is, their only hope is that they can soon develop another chase utely type that can be relatively cheap for a little while.
February 2nd, 201211:34 am
Better than a pear.
February 2nd, 201211:38 am
abwright If you’ve got $20M to spend and Chase Utley isn’t getting it done, why not buy a free agent second baseman?
for $20mil? i think its going to catch up with them eventually, unless they can develop some guys.
February 2nd, 201211:55 am
If Heyward dropped a little weight and Freeman added 15 lbs of muscle, then I guess Freeman is now our biggest dude.
February 2nd, 201211:57 am
Could be worse. He could show up like a parallelogram, all slanted to one side. But then, that’s what they make V8 for, right?
February 2nd, 201212:01 pm
Found this interesting…Although I am sure Coach is already well aware.
Drinking the Kool-Aid
A tasteless reference to the Jonestown Massacre of 1978, this expression means to blindly accept something, such as a company’s “mission statement.” Robotic allegiance is bad enough; coming up with tactless expressions for it is horrendous.
February 2nd, 201212:15 pm
Or a potato
February 2nd, 201212:18 pm
Just announced: Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band will perform at The GRAMMYs on February 12
February 2nd, 201212:24 pm
The Phillies may have plenty of resources to contend. I think a bigger problem for them going forward is not necessarily big contracts, though that doesn’t help. It’s that they don’t recognize what kind of player Ryan Howard actually is and was, and to a lesser extent, it’s the same with Jimmy Rollins. They paid those players based on MVP awards and based on the past, not based on the reality of what kind of players they are and will be going forward.
Ryan Howard has been the Phillies best player in a season once, in 2006. Rollins has been the Phillies best player in a season once, in 2004.
Phillies leaders in Baseball Reference’s Wins Above Replacement since 2001 (Rollins’s first year as a regular):
2001 – Rolen
2002 – Abreu
2003 – Abreu
2004 – Rollins
2005 – Utley
2006 – Howard
2007 – Utley
2008 – Utley
2009 – Utley
2010 – Halladay
2011 – Lee
February 2nd, 201212:25 pm
mlbbowman Mark Bowman
Hanson’s shoulder has felt good since he started throwing in early Jan. Does not think he will have any restrictions at the start of camp.
February 2nd, 201212:30 pm
I think a bigger problem for them going forward is not necessarily big contracts, though that doesn’t help. It’s that they don’t recognize what kind of player Ryan Howard actually is and was, and to a lesser extent, it’s the same with Jimmy Rollins.
This will lead to argument. I smell an RBI discussion.
February 2nd, 201212:34 pm
Chase Utley was overshadowed by teammates with sexier stats (at least in terms of the stats that people pay attention to). But Utley has been the true Phillies MVP more often than anyone over their impressive run. His performance has been better, if we look beyond the stats, or at least the basic stats.
February 2nd, 201212:36 pm
Efrim, I’m not sure how something so blatantly obvious could even be argued. So I doubt it will lead to an argument, unless someone is completely blind as to how well someone like Utley has performed over the course of his career relative to guys like Rollins and Howard.
February 2nd, 201212:37 pm
Efrim, not that Rollins and Howard are anything less than great players in their own rights. It’s just Utley was a notch above them most years.
Now Shaun, no need to whisper sweet nothings into Efrim’s ear.
February 2nd, 201212:42 pm
Really… get a room you two.
February 2nd, 201212:45 pm
It’s that they don’t recognize what kind of player Ryan Howard actually is and was, and to a lesser extent, it’s the same with Jimmy Rollins.
It’s like they have absolutely no idea what kind of marketing value these players have. If they were smarter people, they would realize no one in Philly actually likes those two players. Those two don’t move jerseys or anything with their name on it. No one comes to the park to see them. When people think Phillies in Philly, they think of everyone but those two. So yeah, they had no reason what-so-ever to pay these two guys to stick around their entire careers in a town where no one likes them and they don’t move any merchandise.
February 2nd, 201212:47 pm
Hanson’s shoulder is on pace to have another terrific Spring followed by a summer of misery. Yet another reason the Braves suck.
February 2nd, 201212:48 pm
Efrim and Shaun’s room together would be full of lap tops and endless sheets of baseball stats. Both would be dressed in lab coats and instead off a hot chick on a poster it’d be pictures of Bill James with a arrow and heart above him.
February 2nd, 201212:50 pm
TennesseePaul, good point about marketing. That’s certainly something teams have to consider along with wins and losses. I certainly didn’t mean to dismiss the marketing aspect of keeping Howard and Rollins around. I was more emphasizing that those signings could set them back, in terms of winning.
If Efrim is blind, why would he need…Oh, I get it…hehehe…
February 2nd, 201212:51 pm
Yet another reason the Braves suck.
February 2nd, 201212:52 pm
Fox Sports reporting the Nats are actively shopping Lannan to aquire Oswalt or Jackson via free agency.
It appears the Brave’s NL East opponents are still active.
February 2nd, 201212:54 pm
Utley was overshadowed by teammates with sexier stats… His performance has been better, if we look beyond the stats, or at least the basic stats.
Beyond the stats. Into the deep mystery of the dark. Look into that place which you dare not look. You will see me, staring back at you.
But ignore the sexy stats. Avert your eyes from that which is sexy.
ChattTownBrian, actually the stat sheets are where we might get fooled, in terms of Howard and Rollins and Utley. I would recommend that someone look at actual performance instead of stat sheets for those three players for clarity on which one has been the best Phillies player over the last 10 years. If people insist on looking at stat sheets, they should look at the stats that actually measure performance.
February 2nd, 201212:56 pm
Wait, they didn’t just role over, give up, and die after Lew’s pre-season assessment put them in the gutter, again?
February 2nd, 201212:59 pm
eesh. award celebrations are so terrible. grammys, emmys, tonys, whatever, i cant stand them. i care so little, its even hard for me to understand sometimes why people pay attention to that stuff.
February 2nd, 20121:00 pm
DOB, has Chipper kind of taken Heyward under his wing, or is it that they’re just in a hitting group together?
I wonder if they have similar ways of thinking about hitting.
February 2nd, 20121:01 pm
How big an upgrade is Oswalt or Jackson compared to Lannan? Oh, yeah, the Braves chances are doomed!
February 2nd, 20121:03 pm
shaun It’s that they don’t recognize what kind of player Ryan Howard actually is and was, and to a lesser extent, it’s the same with Jimmy Rollins.
so, why exactly is that a problem for them? i still think that its because they are too top heavy with payroll. to much money to guys that wont perform well in the near future.
I’m not sure how something so blatantly obvious could even be argued.
im not sure why you brought it up. no one is talking about who the best player on the team is.
February 2nd, 20121:05 pm
Watched Tommy Hanson throw long-toss with a lot of velocity today at Turner Field. Looks good and said shoulder feels great. Also looks like mountain man (230 lbs, long hair, full beard). Said he’ll keep the beard but will trim it. Right now he looks as if he should be playing guitar for My Morning Jacket. (If I were him, I’d keep the look if Fredi would allow it.)
February 2nd, 20121:07 pm
How big an upgrade is Oswalt or Jackson compared to Lannan?
Probably only a win, but I’d certainly rather have Edwin Jackson over the next couple seasons than John Lannan.
February 2nd, 20121:10 pm
Both would be dressed in lab coats and instead off a hot chick on a poster it’d be pictures of Bill James with a arrow and heart above him.
Big Bill James fan, but Alba would be on the wall. And there are bigger stat-heads here than myself.
shaun How big an upgrade is Oswalt or Jackson compared to Lannan?
enough to make their team better, thats for sure. oswalt especially.
February 2nd, 20121:13 pm
2012 NL East standings:
February 2nd, 20121:15 pm
I get a waft of an .880 in that prediction.
February 2nd, 20121:17 pm
February 2nd, 20121:18 pm
And there are bigger stat-heads here than myself.
You’re not a stat-head, you’re a prospect-hugger. Big difference.
February 2nd, 20121:19 pm
I get a waft of an .880 in that prediction.
105 wins if that happens.
February 2nd, 20121:21 pm
Damn skippy, bucko, LOL. FCS, it’s almost time for PCR and ST. The fan who can’t let a little tint hit his glasses at this time of year…shoot, might as well just go ahead and put him down, end his misery.
You’re not a stat-head, you’re a prospect-hugger. Big difference.
Agreed. I like more advanced stats, and could honestly not tell you the last time I used RBI to make a case for a player, but I don’t go around citing wOBA and SIERA all over the place. Not to say those stats aren’t good or valuable, but I’m just not going to use it in this forum.
February 2nd, 20121:22 pm
Hanson is so ugly. He looked way better with short hair and no beard, imo. But I ain’t a chick, so
February 2nd, 20121:23 pm
I agree with DOB….the beard should stay
The fan who can’t let a little tint hit his glasses at this time of year…shoot, might as well just go ahead and put him down, end his misery.
You killed Mixxo, you bast…wait. Nevermind. Nothing to see here.
February 2nd, 20121:24 pm
“The high school crop is deep,” an American League scouting director said. “You could probably name 10 high school arms who could go in the first round, and it’s the same thing with the position players.”
Not sure if you need to have an online subscription to get to this, but BA released a lot of 2012 draft stuff today: http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/early-draft-preview/2012/2612892.html
Is it bad that I was looking for polished college arms that sit 87-89mph in the 15-30 range?……you know……just in case…….
February 2nd, 20121:25 pm
LOL. FCS, it’s almost time for PCR and ST.
Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn’t we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? ‘Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we’d all be put out in K.P
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