10:55 pm January 23, 2012, by David O'Brien
January 24th, 20123:51 am
All have a good one! My Top 5 movies 2011
1. Source Code
5.The Kings Speech
Talk tomorrow,and peace…….
January 24th, 20124:35 am
DOB 2.25 million is a bit out there especially with that collapse lamenting the hearts of Braves Nation. The only way they draw 2.25 mil is if they win 95 games. And I can’t possibly see that happening.
This team is ok at the moment but with Fredi over-using O’Ventbral and not having any other stable relief pitchers, I can see 1 or 2 of them going down to arm problems.
Also with a lack of situational hitting strike out problem and offensive woes I see the Braves being the same or worse offensively.
My prediction is at the moment the way this team is set up and especially with Fredi as Manager is 78-84. And that kind of season will draw the fans below 2.25 million
January 24th, 20124:37 am
I really hope I’m wrong and your right
Random Braves Commenter on DOB Blog
January 24th, 20125:39 am
Must be alot of GT fans on this blog with all the snobbery….
On different note Moneyball was certainly one of the best movies of 2011. I read the book and the movie followed it almost to the T.
Loved the David Justice scene in the batting cages where he had a little bit of humble pie served to him. That certainly was not hard for anyone to envision that truly happening.
January 24th, 20126:12 am
dob. I believe a blog should inform and entertain’ and yours does both very well. Keep doing what you have been doing and you can sleep easy. By the by,I loved the doves will check out their album.
January 24th, 20126:21 am
I said a few weeks ago that the most Cody Ross would get is around 3 million. With maybe PA incentives or an option year. I knew he wouldn’t come close to last year’s salary of 6.3 million.
Brave New World
January 24th, 20126:47 am
DOB: “The Artist” was one of the best films I have seen in the last 5 years, so I completely agree with your pick. What was your take on “Tree of Life?” The reviews on that film, for the most part, have been exceptional, and the movie itself has many striking visual images, but I walked out well before the ending because it was too abstract.
Back to baseball: No great loss on Cody Ross – hope he does well with the Bosox, but he was not the answer for the Braves. If Bourn, Prado, and Heyward play to their abilities, Diaz and Hinske are capable utility outfielders comparable to Ross.
January 24th, 20127:04 am
Death threats for WILLIAMS? Reminds of HANK AARON.
January 24th, 20127:08 am
I can see the headlines now J-Man…………Attendance plummets below 2 million as BRAVES and METS battle to stay out of the cellar in the N.L. East……heh!
Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack's BBQ
January 24th, 20127:38 am
#110, nice blog. Thanks DOB.
January 24th, 20127:39 am
Pitching wins games. Deep pitching staffs win games. Deep Starting Pitching staffs win games. Deep Bullpens win games
Braves have deep starting staff and deep bullpen
January 24th, 20127:46 am
Did i forget to mention how talented the pitchers are? Braves are in a better position, in 2012, to handle injuries or setbacks to the entire pitching than ever before
January 24th, 20128:01 am
It’s my experience that folks who say “I hope I’m wrong”…don’t. Not really. They expect the worst, and then hope for worser.
So, if one is going to throw out doom-and-gloom, fercrissake, be a grownup and OWN it. Don’t give me that namby-pamby “hope I’m wrong” bushwah.
January 24th, 20128:02 am
That was a great morning Braves and movie read. I hope GWTDT music gets some Oscar nominations today.
Back to baseball…I swear I’m the 1% that doesn’t hate the red jerseys but I do love the new ones if they are indeed confirmed sometime. Wish the Braves made more options for women’s fan jerseys. All there is is white – I had to buy a large children’s because I wanted something other than boring white. I even asked a few Tomahawk Girls on Twitter where they got theirs and they said they believe they’re special made… go figure.
January 24th, 20128:12 am
Someone overnight mentioned that – apparently – $3 mil for Cody Ross was too expensive for the Braves. Just gos to show that if you’re hungry and only have $5 in your pocket, are you going to eat at Taco Bell or Outback Steak House?
January 24th, 20128:13 am
Of course, the American way is to go to the more expensive restaurant and put it on your credit card.
January 24th, 20128:34 am
Dang, I got to get out more. Even Ward has a top 5 movie list.
January 24th, 20128:38 am
I Like the alternate uniform, but would love to see that screaming Brave on the sleeve. That is what should be there. That’s what always was there back then.
I don’t see who that would offend – it’s not like the screaming Brave was doing anything nasty……
January 24th, 20128:40 am
If you pay attention you can see Liberty media people all over the ballpark. They are the ones dressed like accountants. Making important decisions like– “if we import 2 week old hot dog buns from Manchuria we can save 4% and those handicap parking spots are really close to the stadium can we charge extra for them ? “
January 24th, 20128:47 am
The Braves haven’t drawn under 2.3 million fans for twenty years – not even when they had their only losing season.
January 24th, 20128:55 am
“prudent second-half bullpen strategy.”
That “prudent” strategy cost the Braves several games. I don’t get the reluctance to use Venters or Kimbrel, or even O’Flaherty in a tie game or even down a run to stop a threat. Use your best pitcher in the tightest situation. You can’t just hope Sherril will survive an inning so maybe we score and then get Kimbrel a save.
Also, stop bunting so daggum much.
January 24th, 20128:56 am
Uh, we don’t have to hope Sherrill can hold a lead. he is no longer a Brave and the bullpen is considerably deeper this year than last.
January 24th, 20129:15 am
Death threats for a football game mistake…rediculous.
thanks for the new blog… can’;t wait for Spring Training..
January 24th, 20129:17 am
The home alternate is AWESOME! As far as attendance, I like going to games, a lot, but it’s a chore to get down there. I go to maybe 5 a year of the best ones, but obviously watch or listen to nearly all of them when I can.
I think the main thing about the attendance besides the bad economy especially in the city is simply that they have no players of consequence that people want to go see. It’s like this all over Atlanta right now. This is a city that loves superstars. Go to any arena when a star is in town. It’s full. The Braves don’t have really any superstars. People pay to see the Yankees and Red Sox come to town. They pay to see Albert, they pay to see Verlander etc. I’m not sure this Braves lineup does a lot for anyone and until they get people to believe they could win a world series. Right now, there’s no passion, it’s just something fun to do and bring the kids to if you have an open evening. Half the people at the games aren’t even paying attention to the ball game.
Gil In Mechanicsville
January 24th, 20129:21 am
Morning friends… When you take all the factors in concerning attendance, I think it is pretty remarkable the Braves still draw in excess of 2 million per year. Face it folks, the Atlanta area has been hit pretty hard by the current recession and the venue is not exactly the most fan friendly. A lot easier to plop down in front of the big screen TV.
Gate attendance is not where the profit is in sports lies. Look at the TV revenue, it was Ted Turner’s ace in the hole.
January 24th, 20129:22 am
It’s great tp know that spring is on the way, the birds chirping, the decent weather so far and probably another lousy season from the Braves. Too bad we couldn’t trade Jurjens or Hanson. With Scott Boras as their agent, they will probably be gone anyway. Good article about the attendance and the budget of the Braves. I stayed away last season, I’m boycotting the team until Libery Media sells it to an owner that cares and shows up. I think fans should boycott the Braves untill they get new owners and are not just an appendage of a media conglomerate..
January 24th, 20129:23 am
One thing Georgians and Atlantans in particular are not, is passionate about professional sports.
January 24th, 20129:25 am
That said, to be in the middle of the league in attendance is pretty good for this market. I bet they do slightly better in TV/Radio ratings around the league with the strong regional following.
January 24th, 20129:26 am
Thanks for the work DOB.
January 24th, 20129:29 am
DOB, you forgot the muppets at #1.
January 24th, 20129:30 am
Good to see you back posting! Hope you are feeling better!
January 24th, 20129:31 am
Yep, boycotting games is the way to go to get them to boost payroll. No doubt about it.
January 24th, 20129:32 am
Question for he group,
If Constanza is the 25th man, who is going to play OF for Gwinnett this year? DO we even have a CF for that team?
I guess I am wondering who will play CF and who will back up if Bourne is hurt?
January 24th, 20129:37 am
2011 Movie top 5 [don't get out much, gettin' old]
MEEKS CUT-OFF – great western
MY AFTERNOONS WITH MARGUERITE – great character study starring GERARD DEPARDIEU
MIDNIGHT IN PARIS
The others you’re familiar with
Thank goodness there wasn’t a sixth because it would have had to have been THE KING’S SPEECH which was technically a 2010 movie, I didn’t see until Feb 2011.
January 24th, 20129:38 am
A lot of sad and bitter people here…as usual. If it were me, I would look for a team I could fully support, instead of making myself miserable.
Reality is, all things considered (market size, economy, fan base dispersal, stadium location, etc.), the attendance is not unreasonable…true middle of the pack for a true midmarket team. The payroll is also actually ralistic for the revenue. Some of you, I’m quite sure, are major champions of Capitalism, and market driven economy….but not when it comes to your team. Capitalism does not encourage companies to lose money, BTW.
I think the Braves have remained remarkably competitive for the reality of the situation.
Bob the Blogger
January 24th, 20129:46 am
Atlanta is widely known for having some of the worst traffic problems in the country. I think this may be a factor in the low attendance.
January 24th, 20129:59 am
Surprised to see that Ward didn’t list any Veggie Tales movies in his top 5.
Actually, the attendance isn’t low – it’s dead middle of the pack – 15th out of 30 teams.
January 24th, 201210:01 am
p’cola brave Juan Pierre still contributes at major league level. Would be interesting pick up.
we could do worse. is he better than constanza? are we willing to pay him?
id love to get ankiel on a minor league deal.
DS1 And F’dome gets on base at a decent clip, but not much power. And could play CF in a pinch.
another good option, but can we pay him?
January 24th, 201210:02 am
DOB so if KU -plays like they did in the first half yesturday they are going to get thumped at Hilton this weekend. Royce white is a fun cat to watch.
January 24th, 201210:03 am
j-man 2.25 million is a bit out there especially with that collapse lamenting the hearts of Braves Nation. The only way they draw 2.25 mil is if they win 95 games. And I can’t possibly see that happening.
i think you are pumping up that collapse a little too much, remember, this isnt new york. the reason attendance isnt really high is probably the same reason it isnt really low. braves fans are not the type to protest by not going to games. they just go for fun.
also, 95 wins isnt that far out of reach. the team is better than they were last year, when they won 89 games, while having a terrible september.
Well that stinks.. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo got gypped ..nine Oscar nominations for best picture and it’s not one of them.
January 24th, 201210:04 am
ok, there’s another complaint on here about bunting too much? really? if anything FG is not good at using this type of situational strategy when it is most needed. Don’t buy that Moneyballesque crap about how bunts and hit and runs and sac flies are “self-defeating”. maybe they are in the land of the DH and over-inflated Steinbrenner driven payrolls, but to a normal NL team, in game strategies like hitting behind the runner and station to station baseball wins games! now perhaps our lauded manager isn’t particularly good at using these tools at his disposal, I can’t agree with you more on that point, but if anything, FG’s team doesn’t make enough proper use of any of these strategies to suit an old-school purist like me. pitching, defense, speed, and power where you need it (definitely not at 2B if you sacrifice defense for blind-hog-finding-an-acorn power) that’s how you win games in the NL. more bunting when it’s needed, regardless of who (McCann!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) is at the plate and you’ll see a pretty good handful of extra wins tacked on and maybe, just maybe we’ll see this bunch of underachievers sneak their way into the postseason:)
January 24th, 201210:11 am
flange1, I think Mycal Jones will be the CF in Gwinnett. Constanza and Durango will battle for that 25th spot and I’m sure they’ll bring in someone else on a minor league deal to compete for it. I think they signed Jordan Parraz to a minor league deal too.
Bobo is Not the Problem
January 24th, 201210:13 am
If you have a top 20 movie list for any given year, you watch too many movies.
January 24th, 201210:14 am
How many movies does one need to watch to justify a “Top 20″ list? 40? 50? 100?
Must be nice to be a sportswriter.
January 24th, 201210:16 am
bravesfansince80s that’s how you win games in the NL. more bunting when it’s needed, regardless of who (McCann!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) is at the plate
hey, what universe are you watching baseball in, that Brian McCann should ever bunt?
im thinking you must be worse at situational strategy than freddi g.
Mayor of Ocee
January 24th, 201210:18 am
The throwback is nice! I sure wish though that the Braves would make all of their uniforms consistent. Make the blue alternates look like the regular white, gray, and red uniforms. (I.e. make the script match with that of the other jerseys and add the sleeve and chest stripes!!) And get rid of those plain blue hats! Bring back the two-tones for ALL uniforms. Other than that, our home whites and away grays (if they still wore the two-tone hat with them) are the best uniforms in MLB.
Everything that I have seen from the Braves say Season Tickets (Full Season) … not 20 Game or Half Season Plans. If the Braves intended to include these other plans, they should communicated that better. That is not very clear.
January 24th, 201210:21 am
Diaz and Hinske are capable utility outfielders comparable to Ross. Brave New Worls
how do you manage to figure that? Neither can back up center
January 24th, 201210:22 am
3B Sutton, 2B Wilson, LF Durango, CF Jones, RF Parraz, 1B Gomez/Mejia, SS Hicks, C Kennelly
I guess that could be the Triple-A lineup.
January 24th, 201210:23 am
If I were to do a Murph’s Top 5 Movies of 2011 list and base it on movies I saw in the theater it would look like this:
1. Kung Fu Panda 2
2. Crazy, Stupid Love
Diaz is not a capable anything
January 24th, 201210:24 am
And not that Durango will bat 3rd – was just trying to list our depth there. I like Sutton and Durango as minor league free agent signings. Good job by Wren and co.
January 24th, 201210:25 am
Bobo – I’m sure it is nice to be a sports writer…doing something you love to do…but you obviously have no clue how much hard work it requires, and how many hours…at least to do it right…which DOB does extremely well. By definition, it is seasonal…Many long hard hours of work and travel during season, with right much “down time” in between. Even during the season, what do you suggest DOB should be doing with his limited spare time… rainouts, nights after day games, etc? You may have been kidding…hard to tell. I’m just saying that some here seem to underestimate or deminish what it takes to do the super job that DOB (and Carroll) do here.
January 24th, 201210:28 am
yeah me too Ef, but I liked a couple last season who didn’t really pan out
Be nice to have a more versatile bench. I think that’s something Wren will go for next offseason with all of the current guys set to become free agents. Mycal Jones could end up as a utility player capable of playing all three outfield spots and the two middle infield spots. At least he’s good and athletic.
January 24th, 201210:29 am
Like the new jerseys. Would probably love them with the Chief on the sleeve and no name on the back. (I understand the marketing and pc reasons we will never see that) Alternately I think a sleeveless version might have looked nice as well.
January 24th, 201210:30 am
Sources have told FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal that it’s “possible” Edwin Jackson could accept a one-year deal.
Yeah, I mean, it’s January 24th. What would drive a GM to give him more than a one year deal?
January 24th, 201210:31 am
From the previous blog which had 3,776 comments, cabravesfan led the way with 245 posts. There were 233 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 cabravesfan 245
2 Bat Masterson 183
3 Efrim 179
4 raleighbravefan 150
5 Lew 148
6 Tomahawkin (The Godfather) 146
7 nolie 142
8 Venice Jim 135
9 jeffrey doo doo 125
10 Sopheee 102
11 Murph 101
12 VaBravesFan 100
13 DAP 88
14 David O’Brien 83
15 ncscoots 69
16 Tom O’Hawke 67
17 RC 66
18 Shaun 66
19 Ray 59
20 TennesseePaul 59
21 richbrave 58
22 McFann O O o 49
23 Ward 49
24 Lollygagger 44
25 Disgusted 41
January 24th, 201210:32 am
Not sure Ross would’ve gotten less playing time in Atlanta opposed to Boston. Fredi would surely go with him over Diaz or even Hinske in LF when Prado is covering CJ at 3rd. That would be considerable playing time, I think.
January 24th, 201210:33 am
Pirates GM Neal Huntington told a radio station that it would take a “drastic overpay” for another team to acquire outfielder Andrew McCutchen via trade.
Yeah, how about convincing your owner to open their wallet and pay the kid whatever he wants to keep him in Pittsburgh. It’d be ridiculous for them to trade him even next offseason. They desperately need to keep him in Pittsburgh long term and I hope they do. I can’t imagine what it would cost in prospects to trade for him. I don’t think Teheran, Vizcaino, Bethancourt, and Simmons would even get it done.
Jackson has become a real wanderer the last few years. Hard to keep up with where he is, one year should feel like a long contract to him
January 24th, 201210:35 am
New jersey is very DULL and lacks imagination. Might as well go back to the old 1956 uniform.
Thanks, chief osceola. And by the way, the Doves album to get is The Last Broadcast. That’s the one that the song I used came from, and it’s their best in my opinion.
January 24th, 201210:38 am
DAP, the same universe in which McCann it into his worst slump last september and during said slump he came to the plate more than once in crucial situations with a man on 1st, less than 2 outs and depite the fact that he couldn’t hit his way out of a wet paper bag, no bunt was called for or given. I realize he’s not getting paid to bunt (a very tired cliche by the way) but in certain situations, it doesn’t matter who it is, you just really want a guy on second in the hopes SOMEBODY can get one friggin hit! we gotta move away from the “wait around for a 3 run homer” mentality and work station to station to help an anemic offense…
January 24th, 201210:39 am
doesn’t become a FA until ‘16 I think, but he’ll be gone by then for sure
Boras has had a lousy year so far, I believe he has lost some of his touch to be able to manipulate teams as much as the past. Fielder might be his last opportunity this year.
January 24th, 201210:41 am
For the Nats, this might be the perfect time to strike.
The Phillies are aging. The Mets are broke. The health of Braves right-handers Tommy Hanson and Jair Jurrjens is in question. And the wacky Marlins, well, let’s not anoint them NL East champions just yet.
If they get Fielder, that’s certainly a step in the right direction. Kevin Goldstein listed their Top 10 players 25 years old and under:
Top 10 Talents 25 And Under (born 4/1/86 or later)
1. Stephen Strasburg
2. Bryce Harper, OF
3. Jordan Zimmermann, RHP
4. Anthony Rendon, 3B
5. Wilson Ramos, C
6. Drew Storen, RHP
7. Danny Espinosa, 2B
8. Matt Purke, LHP
9. Brian Goodwin, OF
10. Alex Meyer, RHP
January 24th, 201210:42 am
Horrible Bosses? Really? Was one of the worst movies I’ve seen in the last 10 years. Other than Jennifer Aniston, movie had very little redeeming qualities.
Be a shame if they don’t ink him to a long term deal, McCutchen that is. He is controlled for four more seasons through 2015(as is Heyward and Hanson).
January 24th, 201210:44 am
“Horrible Bosses” was no artistic masterpiece, but it was the funniest movie of the year. As for “The Descendants”, it’s hard to believe DOB thinks there were 10 better movies in 2011. Thankfully, Oscar voters know better.
January 24th, 201210:45 am
In fortune braves estimated revenue was ~$200M with ticket sales in the ~$50M range. I’m curious how attendance ties to revenue streams other than ticket sales (how much do they get from their concession deal, etc)
I’ll be very interested to see if this food discount translates into better resale value for my tickets…
The difference between McC and Jason is that got most of an extra year from McC
January 24th, 201210:46 am
This post was about attendance . I think the main way to improve attendance is to get the Hispanic/Latino Fans involved a little bit more. We have plenty of players and coaches who are of latin American descent. Im sure if you put some radio/tv/billboard ads in these markets attendance could jump at least 10-20%.
Poor year for movies IMO
At least cab didn’t double me for a change…and I did double up on Tom, with one to spare…
January 24th, 201210:48 am
hmm…not my ‘type’ of movie really but i’d assume you’d have made the time for ‘The Help’.
It’s just one of those award winning kind of films.
I thought Planet of the Apes was going to be pretty crappy but I actually really enjoyed that one. You just have one clear cut miss on your list though. It’s obvious that Green Lantern was the greatest film in 2011
Dawgdad (The Original)
January 24th, 201210:49 am
For season ticket holders a 33% reduction in concession prices, WOW!
That brings those prices down from Astronomical to just Outrageous. Hope the Bravos get off to a good start or I am afraid the attendance is going to be way off this year after an offseason of doing squat/zero/nada.
Looks like Atlanta gets the first show in the E Street Band’s 2012 tour – we get a crack at him in April out here…
I was surprised at how much I enjoyed Moneyball, especially considering that I found the book so obnoxious that I couldn’t force myself to finish it. The movie focused more on the relationship of Billy and Paul and watered down the snotty numbers angle in the book enough that it was a little easier to take. Still I agree with several reviews I read that questioned why they waited so many years after the book came out to make the movie given that the A’s have fallen off the edge of the earth in terms of being relevant, and now they want to move the team to a more financially suitable area, doesn’t look so great in retrospect…
January 24th, 201210:50 am
man I h8 traveling for work…there are 16 of us traveling for a meeting to dallas which equates to 7:30-10:30 of togetherness for the next 2 days. Wouldn’t be bad except it isn’t 16 folks who particularly like each other that much.
Oh well maybe I’ll get to spend a bunch of time on the blog the next few days
Green Hornet was awesome…..
January 24th, 201210:52 am
there is an ersatz Dawgdad? who knew?
McFann O O o
January 24th, 201210:54 am
My list of movies I saw in the theater last year would be even shorter than yours!!…
…Or was that New Year’s Eve, 2010…? No, I think it was New Year’s Day, 2011…
January 24th, 201210:55 am
Green Hornet post was a joke, folk
Green Lantern on the other hand…….well
January 24th, 201210:59 am
I see where the Astros are talking about changing their uniforms and maybe their nickname for the 2013 season. They are looking into it atleast.
January 24th, 201211:00 am
I see where the Astros are talking about changing their uniforms and maybe their nickname for the 2013 season.
maybe back to the colt 45s? since NASA has been defunded, maybe the ’stros name doesnt make sense anymore…
January 24th, 201211:04 am
I like Sutton and Durango as minor league free agent signings. Good job by Wren and co.
Wait a damn minute. Drew Sutton, from El Dorado, Arkansas? I knew I’d heard that name before. He was born in my hometown…the same hospital that I was born in, but I don’t think he went to high school here.
January 24th, 201211:06 am
DAP – That is exactly the thinking. But the thought is that MLB wouldn’t allow the “pistol” shirt of the .45’s in this PC world.
Other names mentioned: The Oilers (obvious ties) and The Gamblers.
January 24th, 201211:07 am
They have high schools in Arkansas??
January 24th, 201211:08 am
jimmy, they wouldnt allow a pistol, but they would allow “the gamblers”? thats seems odd. i kinda hope they just stick with the Astros.
January 24th, 201211:10 am
hard to imagine that baseball with it’s obsession about gambling would allow such a name
January 24th, 201211:12 am
You’d be suprised, nolie. We even wear shoes, and everything.
January 24th, 201211:14 am
DAP – Just repeating what was posted. No, Gamblers wouldn’t fly either.
From what I read this morning, seems that most fans want to keep the name but change the uniforms.
Their new owner (Crane?) has brought this up and is holding meetings with fans. They also will allow fans to bring in water and food. Also, some kind of “credit” on consessions for season ticket holders.
January 24th, 201211:16 am
“We even wear shoes”
Until you get to “ten”!
January 24th, 201211:17 am
“I Like the alternate uniform, but would love to see that screaming Brave on the sleeve. That is what should be there. That’s what always was there back then.
I don’t see who that would offend – it’s not like the screaming Brave was doing anything nasty……”
The Screaming Indian shouldn’t have been retired in the first place. But politically correct is politically correct. I doubt we see the Indian on Braves’ sleeves again in our lifetimes.
Would prefer the tomahawk being retained on the new uniforms. Would the Cards not have the bat and the cardinals on their uniforms? The tomahawk kinda makes the Braves, the Braves.
January 24th, 201211:21 am
New jersey is very DULL and lacks imagination.
It’s not all bad, I mean especially near the shore…Have you been? My wife travels there about five time a year…
January 24th, 201211:24 am
Ease @ 11:21—
January 24th, 201211:25 am
It’s hard to tell on the new uni without seeing it live. I love the Sunday red jersey’s!! I also like the dark blue road jersey’s, only ones I don’t like are the blah blue road jersey. I haven’t seen any of those movies except Bridesmaids which was outright hilarious! Glad Melissa McCarthy got a supporting actress Oscar nod, she so deserves it. I can’t wait for the season to start! I am one of the great minority who’s happy with the team as is. Last year was a fluke. Martin will bounce back but I agree, it might be interesting to try him leadoff and Bourne 2nd. Too radical, Braves will never do it. Spring can’t get here soon enough, I detest Winter.
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