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Heathcliff Slocum
January 18th, 2012
10:07 am
Larry – Sorry to disagree, but even given your complaints a Moylan rather than a Proctor or Linebrink in some key spots would have been at least a plus two or three games.
vesaversa
January 18th, 2012
10:11 am
Pitching became a huge problem when the Braves starters begin to fall like fruit flies which put to much work on the bullpen and in turn help cause the Braves collapse in 2011. I am not worried about the Braves pitching it’s world class what i’m worried about is their offense .
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
10:15 am
CMC, it would appear that there is a common thread here and that I’m far from the lone ranger in my views of the current roster and front office, maybe it’s you who oughtta find another team, just sayin’…
reckingball
January 18th, 2012
10:19 am
Maybe this is where the crybabies come to do their crying.
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
10:25 am
you would know as well as anyone sir reckingball of the drop in with dripping irony variety
Bill
January 18th, 2012
10:26 am
The blog is where people express their opinion–if you don’t like don’t read .
Oh, its ok if you agree @10:19 right.
reckingball
January 18th, 2012
10:31 am
I’m only expressing my opinion.
Bill
January 18th, 2012
10:38 am
good!
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
10:39 am
your opinion doesn’t have to include name-calling when nobody has called you anything either, that’s just being polite, you know, that annoying stuff your mom tried to teach you when you were little?
Bill
January 18th, 2012
10:41 am
agree!
Bill
January 18th, 2012
10:42 am
Have a good day..Now we agree , Go Braves….
Ralph
January 18th, 2012
10:47 am
One more —IF—for the braves this season! Braves make the playoffs.
IF MLB changes the Wild Card rule to “3 wild Cards in each Division”
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
10:58 am
Ralph, ha! awesome…
abby normal
January 18th, 2012
11:01 am
So the Braves will open the season with essentially the same team as last season. Therefore, the problem is the same…..lack of offensive production. Pitching and defense can keep you in games but you have score!
Sonny Jackson
January 18th, 2012
11:02 am
Maybe some of the players feel they have something to make up for and will dig just a little bit deeper this time around? Whatever happens, I’m still ready for baseball, spring, girls back in shorts…
reckingball
January 18th, 2012
11:03 am
I see that the people that really don’t do much of anything but complain about the Braves, don’t like people saying anything about their complaining, in almost every comment.
I am truly sorry that you don’t like being compared to crybabies.
Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack's BBQ
January 18th, 2012
11:04 am
I also think this is a good economic move, bringing Moylan back on a minor league contract. Braves aren’t spending tons of my precious beer proceeds and there is only upside here.
anthony
January 18th, 2012
11:06 am
Been a fan since Milwaukee. Not very confident about 2012:
a) coming off of THE collapse
b) the other NL East teams have been improving (well, except for the Mets)
3) we have no shortstop let alone a productive shortshop
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
11:09 am
abby normal, we don’t even have defense to fall back on with current roster, infield d will be near bottom of NL…
MOY
January 18th, 2012
11:11 am
Moy is TNT…Dynamite!!!!!!….. Except when injured to the point of his arm falling off.
Mark Z.
January 18th, 2012
11:13 am
WTF? Lower payroll then last year?
Justafan
January 18th, 2012
11:14 am
Reckingball if it makes you feel good calling people crybabies, well just go ahead~~ We understand its ok.
reckingball
January 18th, 2012
11:15 am
Thanks
reckingball
January 18th, 2012
11:18 am
Enter your comments here
backwoods
January 18th, 2012
11:20 am
LOL comparing a nothing like Matt Diaz to a true gamer and spark plug like Cody Ross is amusing
Paul B.
January 18th, 2012
11:21 am
Smart move pay a dog like Ross $4 mil and rlease Diaz and still pay him $2 mil. And people in this blog call Wren a bad GM, some of you guys would have this team worst than the Mets.
backwoods
January 18th, 2012
11:22 am
Yawnnnnnn at Moylan, same ol same ol , way to go Wren , good job giving this team a “different look” this upcoming Spring
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
11:23 am
agreed Paul, keep Cody Ross far away from turner field, he’s a fungus…
backwoods
January 18th, 2012
11:23 am
@ Paul B, who cares what they pay Ross.. is it you writing the check? is it you paying this guy who always hustles out of the box on every play?
Go back to stone ages
backwoods
January 18th, 2012
11:25 am
Braves”fan” since the 80’s I think you’re the fungus , you’re probably another annoying Northern Yankee transplant who hopped on our wagon in 1991
Justafan
January 18th, 2012
11:27 am
who said release Diaz-trade him, if anyone else would take him.
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
11:30 am
nope backwoods, bor an raised in Rosman, NC where people are the definition of backwoods, Cody Ross is a troll…
Ozzie
January 18th, 2012
11:30 am
Matt D = mid 30s and done. Moylan was a cheap flier/insurance policy in case one of the youngsters in the pen has an issue. Think 8th guys.
Wren will let Moylan blow out his elbow to protect Venters from doing the same.
The Braves are broke and have been since the season ended. Their ability to do anything of consequence died when they had to take 10mm of Lowe’s salary.
2012 was and is their mulligan year and they know it. They just need to keep fans hopefully that somehow resting players makes the 2012 outlook better.
Problem is everyone rests each year and may get hurt as the season moves along. 2012 will be no different and with a weak bench (and it is weak) two injuries to position players especial 1B or SS and we are in deep yogurt.
backwoods
January 18th, 2012
11:32 am
Cody Ross is an upgrade to Matt Diaz plus he’s won a WS ring recently . It’s time to get rid of this old guard mentality by bringing back the same ol nothings .
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
11:32 am
nice post Ozzie
backwoods
January 18th, 2012
11:34 am
I’m just glad they didnt trade for Seth Smith , talking about an over rated player with a horrible sounding name…yikes
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
11:34 am
I agree with your premise backwoods, just not your player selection, I’m no Diaz fan but there is a glaring difference between how he hits lefties vs how Ross hits lefties, it would be a monumentally dumb move
Felix
January 18th, 2012
11:38 am
Lot of Braves getting hefty increases. Have I got it right? In the real world, if one fails at work he/she gets reprimanded, demoted or fired*. But in baseball, if you flop miserably (like last Sept.), you get raises.
* fat cat bank executives excepted, who pay themselves big bonuses with taxpayer money
backwoods
January 18th, 2012
11:42 am
I’m not thinking or worrying about how much $$ to pay a middle of the road journeyman Outfielder as we sit here in late January , I’m along the lines of thinking what a player of Ross’s caliber would bring to the table during those dog days of August and September when we may be possibly fighting for a Playoff birth with a team like Milwaukee or Miami or heck even the Reds
Ozzie
January 18th, 2012
11:53 am
Think about this math:
Lowe – 10mm
McClouth 1.2mm buyout (for a guy who stunk his entire time in ATL)
Wilson – 1.5 with incentives (cannot hit a beach ball with a boat oar)
Prado – 4.75mm (great guy, versatile but is a 2B first and foremost with no spot open at 2B)
Moylan – 1mm insurance policy
That is 18+mm dollars they could have spent on an impact LF and something better than Wilson at SS and as a back up to Chipper.
I like Prado but if he struggles again and even if he doesn’t that is a lot to pay a utility player.
Wren needs help when it comes to contracts beyond 1 yr. You could argue he jumped the gun on Uggla. Imagine if we worked a deal during the early summer pre streak.
backwoods
January 18th, 2012
12:11 pm
tired of prado… **yawnsss**
Fols
January 18th, 2012
12:40 pm
No wonder they optioned for Atlanta in The Walking Dead series…reading this blog is worse than a zombie apocalypse.
You guys are WAY too worried about another epic collapse. Worry about that IF we are even in position to collapse which is half the battle of a regular season. If you want a perfect line-up with big money contracts go hit up the Yankee blogs. Wander over to the Phillies or some of you bang wagon fans can join the fish while their hot. If that’s how you cheer for your sports, just take last years championship team and go buy all their merch. Some would say the bandwagon is the best route…
This is a very competitive line-up with excellent pitching. If our young starters can give us that extra inning here or there over last year…our bullpen with some rest are the best in the business. Other than health which every team worries about, we look great on the mound.
The offense was hard to watch at times but having Bourn from the start of the year will be a great addition. I think we can all agree that Uggla will have a little more consistancy. He is what he is, a pop with low average but i’m sure it’ll be more even than last years joke of a start and 80 game hit streak (or so it seemed).
We can also lump Prado and Heyward in the ‘almost’ HAVE to improve at least a little bit category. Prado won’t surprise anyone if he’s back hitting .300 and a fan favorite. Heyward is a wild card but we all knew he was going to be in our line-up so no shock value there.
Chipper and BMac will be solid…hope for good health.
That leaves Freeman and SS. Freeman is just so strong at the plate, has an excellent approach I just don’t see him falling off the map like Heyward did. Having a rookie at SS should still give us a headache or two. With him batting 8th, my biggest fear are those Heyward, Rookie, Pitcher due up next scenerios.
Obviously we just look for a better start to the year and hope that Lowe/Gonzo will be the addition by subtraction in the line-up. With that being said, a hot start for JJ or Prado could very well mean a swap for the better.
I just don’t see how some of you are sooooo down on this line-up threatening to not see a game? Cry much? You don’t go to the games anyways…..Turner Field is a ghostland these days and it’s due to the very people that call themselves great fans. Sounds more like a whole bunch of TBS fans expecting Yankee like moves from management. We won’t miss you if you leave…
Bobbys' Booger
January 18th, 2012
12:45 pm
PMC
January 18th, 2012
10:03 am
Kris Medlen may be better than Tommy Hanson.
That my friends is a Fact
Quicherbichin
January 18th, 2012
12:49 pm
Fols.. well said! All these people do is whine, bitch and complain. It could be WAY worse.. we could be the Padres, for example. I like Matt Diaz and Martin Prado.. I see last year as something that won’t continue.. I could be wrong too, of course.. but even if I am.. I won’t be here whining and complaining.. Personally.. i think the Braves could hire Larry as the GM… wonder how much he’d like people whining and complaining about things HE did?
Bobbys' Booger
January 18th, 2012
12:51 pm
One colossal mistake by FW, not that he doesn’t make more routinely, is by not adding some sort of hitting catalyst to this band of choke artists, he risks a terrific decline in attendance in 2012 due to 2011’s EPIC FAIL! With that decline will be a decline in dollars spent on payroll thus the vicious cycle begins. Good luck to you Mr Wren. Bet on JHey and Prado. We’ll finish ahead of the Muts but that is all.
Marteen is a Ballplayer
January 18th, 2012
12:52 pm
Fols, a voice of reason. I am both cautiously optimistic and concerned all at once. It is silly to think that Prado, Heyward, and Uggla will all have awful seasons again. Same goes for McCann’s second half. I think Fredi adapts too well to have a sophomore slump as our 1st baseman.
Chipper is tantamount to success. Not sure how we are going to bounce our lineup around when he isn’t in it. All I’m saying is that a lineup with Prado, Bourn, Chipper, McCann, Freeman, Heyward, and Uggla is pretty initimidating. And we have a pair of hitting coaches this year that actually have experience.
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
12:52 pm
Fols, if “ifs and buts” were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas…
Bobbys' Booger
January 18th, 2012
12:54 pm
Fols — No. It won’t be an Epic Collapse (although it’s good to see you admit that’s what it was in 2011) Epic Collapses are labeled upon a team that much is expected of….no one should expect anything of this band of choke artists. Teams mirror their management.
Marteen is a Ballplayer
January 18th, 2012
12:55 pm
Lowe is addition by subtraction. We can even afford an injury and get away with it. We are going to have some growing pains, but I like going to war, especially at the end of a season-long grind, with Hudson, Hanson, Delgado, Teheran, Minor, Beachy, and Jurjens. Outside of Hudson, it is a very young staff and Hudson is a baller. Most importantly, Delgado, Teheran, Minor, and Beachy all have some MLB experience now…that is huge.
Bobbys' Booger
January 18th, 2012
12:59 pm
“”Most importantly, Delgado, Teheran, Minor, and Beachy all have some MLB experience now…that is huge.”" – This is a very good point and reason for an amount of cautious optimizism. If two of those 4 pan out to be very good you’ve got something…if 3 pan out to be VG to Stars you have the ability to trade JJ and one of them for a real hitter. Good point
reckingball
January 18th, 2012
1:02 pm
Fols@12:40pm………..”Cry much?”, There are a bunch of people on here, that don’t like for other people, to talk about the crying, so please try not to hurt their feelings. Thanks.
Quicherbichin
January 18th, 2012
1:03 pm
Braves Fan since the 80s… I am surprised to see that you call yourself a fan… all it seems you do is whine, I have been watching the Braves since the 60s and I am not bitter like you are.. you seem more like a fan of the Red Sox or Yankees… or hey.. I hear the Cubs need fans.. your type would probably be welcome there.
..An inmate at a correctional facility
January 18th, 2012
1:04 pm
Mace224……….uh, we won with no names like Blauser, Lemke, Olsen…because we had STUDS like Smoltz, Glavine, Avery, Justice and Gant playing for us in the early 90’s.
Fols
January 18th, 2012
1:07 pm
This is why baseball needs to do away with the off-season. Of the 30 or so teams, all but one team ends the year on a good note. That leaves way too many fans hanging miserable all winter.
As soon as the Braves start the year, all the crying will become “I’m such a huge braves fan since 19__! Go BRAVES I LOVE YOU!”
Bobbys' Booger
January 18th, 2012
1:10 pm
@Fols…ummm only one team in 100+ years has ended the season like 2011 Braves. Do you use an IV for the Kool-aide?
..An inmate at a correctional facility
January 18th, 2012
1:12 pm
Being a fan of a team is one thing. Being out of touch with reality is another. A parent can love their child and say their child who is butt ugly is just as beautiful as any child in order to build self esteem in their child. However, expecting your butt ugly child to seriously compete in a beauty contest would be insane parenting.
Face it, while we’re not as butt ugly as the Mets….we has much of a chance of making the playoffs in 2012..as Stephen Hawking has of winning the next Dancing with the Stars contest on ABC.
Fols
January 18th, 2012
1:12 pm
Braves will go into summer in the heat of the battle and 50,000 bloggers will claim to go to every single game yet there will be 20,000 people in the stands.
Ah the true fans…….the bloggers of the winter…….we hate Wren time of year! It’s refreshing and covered in mold all at the same time. WE SUCK! FIRE WREN! It’s no wonder D.O.B. turns to tweeting about music for a few months
Jim Bob
January 18th, 2012
1:13 pm
Must be nice to get a raise of 3x your salary for hitting the ball 29% of the time. Boras is a worthless weasel.
Fols
January 18th, 2012
1:16 pm
Sorry Bobby……..every team that isn’t the champion right now…………failed. ALL of em. I’d say some like super salary clubs such as Philly, Yanks, Boston failed even more so. Does anyone really give a crap about last year outside of the Champs because they get to sit on that for a year and celebrate it? No. By summer nobody will even remember the Cards let alone the teams that didn’t make the playoffs. You are living in the past, you just need to buy a new calendar man. It’s sports, you flip it!
Bobbys' Booger
January 18th, 2012
1:21 pm
Fols….I guess guys that are passive, take it or leave it fans can do that. I will not let the EPIC FAIL of 2011 rest until management can show me something more than pay DLowe $10 Mil to leave and sign the jinx Wilson. 2011 takes the proverbial cake. Comments like fattiG saying he will keep all his coaches for 2012 were appalling. JS at least manned up and contradicted that moronic statement.
afan
January 18th, 2012
1:22 pm
80’s, we would all have a merry Christmas..only if you like candy & nuts.
On paper the Braves may look good –but paper don’t play as Wren should have learned last year.
Fols
January 18th, 2012
1:23 pm
Last year? Are you still listening to Party Rockers while your stuck in 2011?
Bobbys' Booger
January 18th, 2012
1:25 pm
Fols…you obviously signed up for the free lobotomies offered for the first 10,000 Braves fans that would renew Season Tickets
Mister Frisky
January 18th, 2012
1:32 pm
Moylan is a wanka.Still a 4th place team.
Brave New World
January 18th, 2012
1:41 pm
Braves have the best bull pen in baseball.
Fols
January 18th, 2012
1:45 pm
When you’ve lived and experienced pre 90’s baseball……you LOVE this Braves line-up! lol
reckingball
January 18th, 2012
1:55 pm
Fols I have to agree with you.
Three of these commentors sound like the same guy, that usually goes by a completely different name, but for some reason, his usual handle isn’t showing up today.
afan
January 18th, 2012
1:57 pm
I been a fan since 66, had season tickets but I’ve never been happy losing. true fans want a winner!
reckingball
January 18th, 2012
1:57 pm
who doesn’t?
Fols
January 18th, 2012
1:59 pm
reckingball…..I was pretty upset with that collapse, especially after my trip to Atlanta, they whooped San Fran, Uggla just wrapped up the hitting streak, things were just way too good.
But man, to harp on it this long? Yikes, you’d think the NFL season would have brushed baseball memories under the rug.
Mitchell
January 18th, 2012
2:03 pm
Tree rollins
January 18th, 2012
12:43 am
Thrilled to see Chipper come back for his 35th season! And he says he’s going to try and go without his walker in the pre-season games. Frank Wren couldn’t have spent his money more wisely!
That’s not nice.
bravesfansince1982
January 18th, 2012
2:06 pm
“Braves lost 20 of last 30 games with the VERY same team last year (minus AGonzo). No upgrades.”
But they did that with Derek Lowe going 0-5 and no JJ or Hanson. Think that made a difference? I do.
This is also pretty much the same team that won 90 games in 2010 and made the playoffs. Why is it no one seems to want to acknowledge that.
Everyone’s so hell bent on dismissing this team based on last September, but there are a lot of things to be hopeful about. I personally can’t wait to see a full year of Bourn and Prado as the table setters. I am also looking forward to seeing J Hey silence his critics. No, we are not going to win a whole lot of 10-9 games, but we certainly will win a lot of the close ones, especially with one of the top pitching staffs in the game.
Everyone needs to just relax and be thankful that Wren didn’t go out and make a move just to make a move. It will pay off in the end. And I have every confidence that should we need a player midseason, Wren will go out and make a move then. But we certainly have enough now to be a top tier team through the trade deadline, and I have a feeling that we’ll all be happy that Frank waited.
Brave New World
January 18th, 2012
2:14 pm
bravesfansince1982 January 18th, 2012 2:06 pm
Bravesfansince1982: I agree with everything you wrote except one: not all of us will be happy that Wren waited; the whiners will contuniue to whine, while Braves fans like you and me will be happy. GO BRAVES!
Mitchell
January 18th, 2012
2:16 pm
You know, I’ve never been a real “F the police” kind of guy but what the f?
Family’s dog killed by DeKalb officer who went to wrong house
By Mike Morris
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
A DeKalb County family’s dog was shot and killed Tuesday night by a police officer who went to the wrong house when responding to a domestic incident, Channel 2 Action News reported.
The officer went to Bobbie Currie’s home on Silva Court around 9 p.m. in response to a domestic dispute call with a possibly armed person.
The family’s German shepherd, which was chained in the garage, lunged at the officer, and was shot and killed, according to Channel 2.
Currie’s husband, Anthony, told Channel 2 that the officer also pointed his gun at him and told him to put his hands up.
“I said, ‘Why [did] you shoot my dog?’ And he said, ‘Well, I’ll blow your brains out,’” Anthony Currie said.
A DeKalb police supervisor sent to the scene said the officer made an error.
“Subsequent investigation determined that the actual address that he was looking for was actually across the street,” DeKalb police Lt. Dane Cunningham told Channel 2.
The officer is not facing disciplinary action pending an internal investigation, Channel 2 said.
First of all, if you’re chaining your dog up in your garage at night, you probably deserve to be shot.
But what kind of first grade testing do you have to barely pass to get a badge in this town?
I think I’m finally beginning to understand the whole “stop snitching” thing.
bobbymahlon
January 18th, 2012
2:37 pm
Most people that write these blogs are just giving their opinions or venting their frustrations. Unfortunatly there are a few people who only want to call people names and belittle them. These blogs would be a lot nicer to read if the minority would lay off something that will never happen.
rayk
January 18th, 2012
2:49 pm
any GM who thinks everyone is going to play at 100% ability is in a fantasy world. in fact, that is what Wren should be doing – playing fantasy baseball.
they re-signed their own players is basically all they’ve done.
amazing how Beane can get great returns for his pitchers, but we can’t get anything reasonable for one of ours. who knows what we turned down from the Reds for Jurgens before the Reds sent 4 guys to SD.
the fact is that this team has little chance of making the playoffs. we spin our wheels while 3 teams in our division improve.
you can laugh at me now- wait until about late July. we’ll see if Wren still ahs that smug look on his face.
Jay Dubu
January 18th, 2012
2:50 pm
The Braves are putting the pressure on the pitching staff, same as last season. If JJ, Hanson, and/or Huddy go down, it could get really ugly, really fast.
No offensive improvements have been added, and the defense will be less spectacular at SS.
They paid Cleveland to take D. Lowe, but they refuse to pay for a righty hitting OF. Outfielder.
Ralph
January 18th, 2012
3:11 pm
Put all the kids on the field, at least they’d be fun to watch.
Seattle Braves
January 18th, 2012
3:16 pm
Number one goal for Atlanta in the Off Season was to Evaluate thier team and make adjustments.
According to Frank Wren in mid October “We have some things to talk about before next year. We have some young talent we want to bring up and see what they can do at the Major League Level, I believe thay are ready. We will explore all options and come to what we believe to be the best ball club.”
Seattle Braves
January 18th, 2012
3:17 pm
Not word for word, but you get the message.
dap01
January 18th, 2012
3:34 pm
This offseason has been horrible considering we had two simple needs going into the offseason. Those needs are some of the easiest needs to fill for any baseball team.
A leftfielder with average or above average power who hits righthanded. It don’t have to be a full time OF, just someone who can play LF with RH power to help out when Prado is playing 3rd.
A backup or a starting SS to bat 8th: We don’t need Jeter’s offense to bat 8th, we just need an AVERAGE SS to fill in while Pastornicki gets the needed time at AAA. Remember, all of the Braves coaches said at the end of last year that Pastornicki was not quite ready for major league defense yet, but he would get there. Apparently, he is not ready after not playing this winter.
The GM and front office put out a letter to fans promising to increase payroll and not accept losing. We apparently they are having to actually CUT payroll.
What’s up?
BravesFanSince80's
January 18th, 2012
3:36 pm
My “whining” as some of you so love to refer to it, is based on the fact that we won 90 games to get into the playoffs in 2010, then 89 and didn’t get in 2011, now during this off-season two of our division rivals have gotten significantly better while our GM has evidently made little if any effort to find offensive support for one of the most frustrating line-ups I’ve ever had the misfortune of watching. Please do not misunderstand me, I realize “the collapse” as everybody keeps putting it, is in the past now, it’s over. I get that. Not what I’m focused on. What I’m focused on is we play the majority of our games against our division opponents and they’re better (on paper at least) while our GM makes statements about how he likes the team as is. We didn’t get in last year and our division should be tougher this season than last and we’ve not made a significant addition to the club. Sure, sure, some people may hit better, but I see a distant second to third place finish for us this coming season and a lot of you “bury your head in the sand” fans out there are gonna have mud on your face…
Bill in VA
January 18th, 2012
3:37 pm
2012 wil be 2005 all over again. I’m looking fwd to it!
Mister Frisky
January 18th, 2012
3:57 pm
I’m a dog lover.I’m with Mitchell F da po lice.
reckingball
January 18th, 2012
3:59 pm
@2:16pm………And this affects the Braves, how? Are you saying the Braves need to sign this officer, because he has a killer instinct?
Or is this another, man shoots dog story?
reckingball
January 18th, 2012
4:03 pm
I think that Wren still might do something to address the hitting situation before or shortly after the season starts.
It’s still too early for the bitchandmoan crap, IMO.
bravesfansince1982
January 18th, 2012
4:10 pm
Braves Fan Since80’s, so what would you have done to make this a better team?
Necromancer
January 18th, 2012
4:53 pm
Like someone in a previous post said, I was hoping by now that Liberty Media would have sold the Braves. This team is a pale imitation of what it used to be. This team has been undone by corporate ownership who cares NOTHING about making this team competitive.
I mean….who else would “stand pat” and bring back the exact same folks that were responsible for this collapse? The Braves, of course. Boston paralleled downward the same time we did..and look what they’ve done. They got rid of their manager and have been doing things to improve their team.
The Braves, under current ownership, will be nothing more than mediocre….mark my words…
And I’ve been saying that for a few years now…
Liberty Media HAS to sell!!!!!
bravesfansince1982
January 18th, 2012
5:00 pm
“This team has been undone by corporate ownership who cares NOTHING about making this team competitive.”
Did I miss something? Did we lose 95 games the past couple of years? A wild card in 2010 and fighting for a playoff spot on the last day of 2011… sounds pretty competetive to me.
Necromancer
January 18th, 2012
5:03 pm
Yeah…bravesfan…..does the “Epic Collapse of 2011″ bring back any memories?
Mister Frisky
January 18th, 2012
5:13 pm
This team looks about as exciting as milk toast.
christophorm
January 18th, 2012
5:15 pm
I still remember when diaz got pegged on third with the season on the line, to kill the braves hopes a few years back..The lineup has guys that get in huge slumps..alot of games where they will “Squeeze out” some runs.Not good enough to beat phillys so..
Mets R Best
January 18th, 2012
5:15 pm
We New Yorkers are all smiles and we are not whining one bit about the lack of moves by the Braves.
DawgDad
January 18th, 2012
6:38 pm
” I think we can all agree that Uggla will have a little more consistancy. ”
Holy Cow — NOOOOOO!!!! It took a 30-day hit streak to save himself from an epic sub-Mendoza embarassment last year. The rest of the season he was VERY consistent.
DawgDad
January 18th, 2012
7:08 pm
As I look at this Braves roster the BEST I can see them doing is finishing third in their Division. The Phillies are light years better, the Marlins and Nats will be tougher. There are just too many holes and prayers on the Braves roster to expect a wild card challenge.
If JJ and Hanson aren’t at peak form coming out of the gate this team could be buried before June and they’ll be on the trading block. Shortstop is a prayer with no contingency, and even if Pastornicky stays in the lineup the infield defense is going to be sub-par. This roster will get eaten alive by lefthand pitching. The Braves bullpen figures to be VERY good at the back end, but they don’t have the horses to get to the eighth inning with a lead with any consistency.
Bill M.
January 18th, 2012
7:19 pm
Would the Braves dare make this trade if Detroit was willing??
Tigers get: JJ, McCann, Bourn + low minor league prospect
Braves Get: Austin Jackson, Alex Avila, Drew Smyly & Nick Castallanous
This would free up money for an OF that can hit and drive in runs. It looks like after this season, the Braves will need two Outfielder’s.
Felix
January 18th, 2012
8:03 pm
DawgDad is right on target. You can add to those concerns– the fact that the puny offense of 2011 has not been improved. We are a third place team, maybe fourth.
(oh, but we better watch out cause the ‘rah rah cheerleader’ folks will call us whiners)
atlchris77
January 18th, 2012
8:15 pm
Why does everyone always forget about chris medlen?
Bravesfan54
January 18th, 2012
8:37 pm
Since the season ended I had wanted to see some changes, upgrades, etc, but over time I am convinced that FW has taken the right approach. This was a solid club with injuries and sub-pars that are highly unlikely to repeat themselves. With our young arms and (mostly!) healthier pitching, this club could easily win ten-twelve more games. Kudos to Frank Wren.
Jockich Ahn Smelley, II
January 18th, 2012
8:41 pm
Leo Mazzone on Talk Radio would have more respect if he would stand up and disagree with some of the Braves……..who needs him on Talk Radio??? What difference does it make to have a YES MAN? Anyone can do that and you don’t learn anything with his standard corporate line full of DOUBLE NEGATIVES….I “aint” doing that “NEITHER”…….