Braves sign Prado to one-year deal, avoid arbitration

The Braves agreed to terms on a one-year contract with Martin Prado on Friday, avoiding arbitration.

The deal, which will pay Prado $4.75 million, has no real bearing on the whether the Braves end up trading him because any conversations have come with the understanding that Prado would draw this kind of salary for 2012.

But the closer the Braves get to spring training, the more apparent it seems neither he or Jair Jurrjens is going anywhere, despite their mention in multiple trade scenarios.

“We had a number of discussions today and will continue to explore other opportunities,” Braves general manager Frank Wren said Friday, speaking in general terms after signing shortstop Jack Wilson. “But as we’ve said all along, if we could add a backup shortstop, we would feel our team is ready to go to spring training. If we can improve it, we’ll look to do that, but this was the last thing that we had to do.”

The Braves have three remaining arbitration-eligible players: Jurrjens, Michael Bourn and Eric O’Flaherty.

When asked about the likelihood of making a trade before the Braves opened spring training, Wren acknowledges the chances grow smaller by the day.

“I think every day that goes by it’s probably less likely,” he said. “It doesn’t mean you stop trying.”

164 comments Add your comment

jay

January 13th, 2012
7:00 pm

So basically we’ve done nothing.

jay

January 13th, 2012
7:00 pm

oh…and first

Braves4Eva

January 13th, 2012
7:04 pm

Wow –

They REALLY improved the team didn’t they. That was earth shaking stuff. Bravo!

Sure got the Phillies scared and a bit nervous with that signing Wren-tin-tin!

Weaseal

January 13th, 2012
7:04 pm

Well at least we will know our team !!!!

Braves4Eva

January 13th, 2012
7:06 pm

That must have been a tough one to do Wren. Let’s see you pull that off again with Jurrjens, Michael Bourn, then I will be impressed!

Kevin

January 13th, 2012
7:07 pm

I love Prado. But, wouldn’t his production be better if he only had to focus on one defensive position? Can’t someone else play third when Chipper can’t?

bball fan

January 13th, 2012
7:07 pm

Wake up people! Prado has to be signed to trade him. They sign Jack Wilson who is good defensively and can play ss, 2b abd 3b. There is your replacement for Chipper on his off days, What do you think Dave.

KnightInATL

January 13th, 2012
7:09 pm

It will be interesting to see how the Braves handle the Bourn situation. With Boras repping him, its highly doubtful we’ll see a long term deal get done.Though, it’s probably just as doubtful the Braves come to terms on a 1 yr deal and avoid an arbitration battle.

DetroitBraves

January 13th, 2012
7:12 pm

Actually, Wilson hasn’t been good defensively since 2009. He was slightly above average last year and slightly below average in 2010. Being slightly above average made him exactly a replacement level player, which was an improvement over being below replacement the year before. There was a time when he played excellent defense but since that time has now passed this is yet another brilliant subtraction by addition move by the Bravos. But hey, at least he’s a “proven veteran” (in the sense that he’s proven he could never hit and now no longer has the glove to still be playable).

Weaseal

January 13th, 2012
7:16 pm

Hey Wake up People – CR wrote the article !!!!!

Greg

January 13th, 2012
7:18 pm

I agree with Braves4Eva. Here’s the point: We DID NOT IMPROVE OUR TEAM. Others did improve theirs. Is this just a matter of Liberty not being willing to spend big?

Frank Wren

January 13th, 2012
7:21 pm

Just one more brilliant move by me to improve our chances to win the WS.

KnightInATL

January 13th, 2012
7:21 pm

After our attendance numbers this past year, I can certainly understand why Liberty isn’t exactly giving Wren carte blanche

JoeBravesFan

January 13th, 2012
7:24 pm

Wilson will prove to be a good mentor for Pastornicky, just like Wagner was for Kimbrel. Wilson is not an All-Star by any means, but will be an asset for the team, because he can also fill in for Chipper and Uggla. As far as Prado goes, I hope he doesn’t get traded…but if he does, we’d better get something REALLY good in return. JJ should have been traded before the All-Star Break last year…he had an awesome first half and has been prone to injury in the second half of the season, so what happens when we don’t trade him? He gets injured and the Braves collapsed. Not saying JJ was the sole reason for the collapse, but we could have gotten someone really good in return that COULD have helped prevent the collapse. Oh well…thanks for the update CR.

Mark in WR

January 13th, 2012
7:31 pm

Can’t for the life of me imagine why we would consider trading Prado anyway. I am happy as can be with our squad. We don’t need anything else; we already have guys like Prado.

bball fan

January 13th, 2012
7:33 pm

Weaseal, don’t be a jerk. It was an oversite.

Mark in WR

January 13th, 2012
7:46 pm

Jason Heyward hits with the power he’s supposed to, everyone forgets there’s an “offensive gap” with Prado in LF.

rayk

January 13th, 2012
7:51 pm

according to Wren, the Braves are all set now . he’ll find out otherwise by the All Star break. he doesn’t “need” to do anything ? he always says he isn’t short of money. who is he kidding ? do you think the other GMs believe this ? if I see through this, you can be sure they do.
other GMs can get a bounty for their starting pitchers and he can’t get any acceptable offer for Jurgens ? if Jurgens has knee trouble again, then we’ll nver be able to deal him. so, why take the risk and try to be cute ?
if you can’t afford to even sign a guy like Willingham for $7 mill a year, then you have to trade for an OF. (since you draft so few)
this GM talks a great game. he should be running for President and campaigning now.

Disgusted

January 13th, 2012
8:15 pm

I would rather have a healthy Prado who is still young and can rebound back to his better than .800 OPSfrom 2008 thru 10 than some of the stuff that was rumored out there.

Remember, Martin had a staph infection and that had to have affected his play even after he came back.

As for JJ, I have a hunch that some teams were trying to steal him because he does not measure up well in thes new fangled sabermetric junk stats.

I am glad to take a chance on having JJ back and if right I will take his 14 wins and mid 3’s ERA, and health permitting, he can give 200 IP. Give me real production than a bunch of BS stats.

As for signing nobody well, remember that Frank is working with those invisible corporate shirts at LM. They do not care about the Braves but the management team does and so do the fans and local media.

I love the Braves, I despise LM a thousand times.

Mentally, can they overcome September, that I or no one else can asnwer right now. I am still not happy with Kimbrell for blowing the biggest save of the year, and I do not trust this team in Sept.

Largo

January 13th, 2012
8:19 pm

I’m afraid the Braves are a third or fourth place team, maybe not even as good as last year. We still have an outfield with no power (how many years is that?) and perhaps a worse SS situation. AGon was good on defense and the 15 home runs he had will probably be more than we get this year. Too bad we have such cheap owners.

Disgusted

January 13th, 2012
8:20 pm

Knight in ATL, — The attendance was not that bad. LM is part of the problem with thte disconnect, they just need to sell out but they do not care about us or the Braves one way or another.

They got the Braves for a tax avoidance (yes legel avoidance) transaction and they are a pebble of their holdings, they have not shown that they care less.

Still, in spite of LM, go out and support your team even if you can just go to a few games. Give another prospective owner a reason to be interested in this team if LM ever considers freeing the ALT fans from their miserable ownershiip tenure.

George

January 13th, 2012
8:22 pm

They improved greatly this off season. They got rid of Lowe.

Flippy Davis

January 13th, 2012
8:44 pm

Marlins add 3 all-stars and Braves add a Pirates reject back-up SS. What wrong wiff dat picture ?

Stinger2

January 13th, 2012
8:46 pm

Largo`s comments are very true. The Braves added nothing and a third place finish is likely. The Marlins and Nats
will be much better teams than last year. Wren said he would not do anything unless it would improve the club.
He has kept his word so far. Not of us fans really know what is going on at any time before, during, or after the season except what we see happen on the field. In my opinion, we saw a sad and sorry sight with the great collapse in September. I don`t think we will see anything like that this year because we won`t be even close in the division race.

tmc

January 13th, 2012
8:56 pm

DON’T TRADE PRADO!

the billman

January 13th, 2012
9:00 pm

Sorry Frankie, but I ain’t buying any of your lukewarm rah-rah garbage. If Fred G. can get this questionable collection of talent to finish better than fourth, then he’s a prime candidate for Manager of the Year. Have you looked at your immediate brethren in The East? By Memorial Day, this team will pretty much be out of it. By August 1 you’ll be taking trade offers from teams that are in the hunt. I won’t waste a single dollar on the embarrassment you and LM have created.

Reality Check

January 13th, 2012
9:02 pm

Unproven rookie on short.

Big ? in right.

Big ? in left

How many games will Chipper play @ third?

Will Uggla hit his career average?

Will Bourn hit .300 (he hit only .256 for Braves) ?

Will McCann rebound ?

Too many ? and ifs to overcome.

3rd place at best.

Really?

January 13th, 2012
9:04 pm

For those above thinking about Pastornicky, that’s not the future SS for the Braves. It is clear he is holding the position for someone (forget his name… starts with an ‘S’.. someone help me out here) who is our SS of the future. Apparently Pastornicky has a number of deficiencies, but the guy behind him is suppose to be hot stuff. Really. (Stenson, Simpson.. something like that).
Carol, you know….

Dave

January 13th, 2012
9:12 pm

Keep Prado! Last season was atypical for him. He’ll be back. Trade Jurrjens. He’s a Boras client so he doesn’t have a future with us anyway.

ncbravesfan

January 13th, 2012
9:13 pm

Yep, the board’s right. Absolutely NOTHING to get excited about for the 2012 season.

So we have a full year with a legitimate leadoff hitter and SB threat?
So we have a solid bullpen anchored by the Rookie of the Year?
So we have a 2B who will hit 30 HR?
So we have several young starting pitchers with incredible upside?
So we have a 1B who was runner up ROY and a RF who when healthy, was runner up ROY in 2010?
So we have a C who is a perennial All Star?

The Braves didn’t go out and make a “splash” by acquiring “big name” free agents. How many big name free agents did the Cards sign last offseason? Or the Giants the season before that?

Wren has every reason to like this team. There is much more upside than down. Just like last year … sure, they picked a bad month to play crappy, but they WERE pretty solid for five months.

The pieces of the puzzle are still there and I, for one, am still anxious for 2012 to get started. Do the Braves have question marks? Sure they do. Every team does. But does that make 2012 a lost cause? Not in my book.

If anything, I think what happened in September will be the driving force behind the success of the 2012 Atlanta Braves. Whether or not that ends in a championship … well, we’ll just have to see come October.

Go Braves!!!!!!!!

Ozzie Smith

January 13th, 2012
9:16 pm

I’ll play ss…cheap, just like LM.

P-Man

January 13th, 2012
9:28 pm

Thank you ncbravesfan! Nice to see there are others out there who support the team and do not publicly denigrate them. I’ve been following them since the 70s, and I ALWAYS look forward to the new year with optimism. Otherwise, what’s the point?

Skeezix

January 13th, 2012
9:44 pm

Rafael

January 13th, 2012
9:46 pm

Our offseason upgrade is signing Jack Wilson, a REAL “Triple Crown” contender with his HRs, RBIs, and Avg. (NOT!!!!),

Plus the fact that Matt Diaz (”he rakes lefthanders you know”) is our STARTING LF. I just lost my appetite.

Matt Diaz is the SAME guy who (and I quote the AJC) “managed to keep his sense of humor despite the Brave’s playoff collaspe”) …. REAL FUNNY MATTY!!! I hope you and Jack “Not the Ripper” Wilson can sit around in the dugout and crack jokes to improve the Brave’s playoff chances.

A CAREER year for Matt Diaz NOW is .240 avg. with 6 HRs. Plus Diaz is a CLANK with the glove.

Thank you Liberty CHEAPIA and Frank Wren (firefrankwren.com) for ALL of our offseason hot stove improvements to keep pace with the Phillies, Marlins, and Nationals in the NL East.

With respect to Mr. Rogers, “CAN YOU SAY 4th PLACE???!!!!!”

Hugh Jass

January 13th, 2012
9:49 pm

I would love to see a power corner outfielder. It looks like the Phillies will beat the brakes off of us again….sigh….

Skeezix

January 13th, 2012
9:54 pm

……And rah rah sis boom bah.

just can’t get excited about spring. have had a hangover since sept. 2011 and no significant change–oh, but we did get a letter.

Commenter

January 13th, 2012
9:58 pm

Hey P-Man–they are smoking record amounts of marijuana in NC these days.

BravesFanLostInOH

January 13th, 2012
10:24 pm

ncbravesfan, right on.

DJMick

January 13th, 2012
10:34 pm

Well, I’m just glad Wren hasn’t listened to you people who think the Bravos should just trade for trading sake. Makes no sense to trade Prado for a lesser player (heck even for an equal player given the chemistry questions) just for the sake of trading him. And while Prado had an off year, who hasn’t had one? I’d still trade Heyward long before I’d trade Prado, higher salary or not.

phil

January 13th, 2012
10:34 pm

Mark in WR
January 13th, 2012
7:46 pm

Jason Heyward hits with the power he’s supposed to, everyone forgets there’s an “offensive gap” with Prado in LF.

******
it’s not gonna happen.

Wayward is a bust.

And signing Hack Wilson? Terrific news there!

phil

January 13th, 2012
10:37 pm

But we do have Utility Prado to stick out in left again this yr!

World Series, look out, baby!

DJMick

January 13th, 2012
10:43 pm

Say what? Heyward hit a grand total of 1 more home run than Prado last year. Prado has a history of performing well. (history meaning more than 1 rookie season)

Q

January 13th, 2012
10:49 pm

MAAAAAAN PSSSSSSHHHHHH!!!! SAME OL BRAVES!!!!!!!

Coach

January 13th, 2012
10:50 pm

The pitching that we currently have will be good enough to keep the team in most games, both the starting rotation as well as the bullpen. I think the real major change that wren had to make was to get a proven hitting coach. Not only did he do that by getting Greg Walker, he hired another set of eyes to work along side of him. We now have two sets of eyes to communicate, as well as correct mechanical issues and flaws in hitters approaches. I see and understand why wren likes this team. Braves fans know what Prado, Heyward, Uggla, McCann have the potential to do, and by getting the most out of them wren gets a proven hitting coach with a world series ring to his resume. The White Sox was 3rd in the American League in homers during his tenure there in Chicago. Offense was our major problem last year, and we now have a effective communicator that will teach hitters to be more selective and drive their pitch when they get it. I think that wren will keep this team intact until the allstar break and possibly trade for a power bat to push us into the playoffs (providing that we’re within striking distance). Thing is, we have players that most teams want, and if someone really wants a player, they will give wren what he wants/needs sooner or later. I applaud wren’s efforts for not trading blue chip talent for stop gaps and one year rentals. If Wren really wanted a big bat, he could have traded and got the bat that he wanted. Now that our farm system is a mile deep in talent, we will start seeing more and more talented players work their way through the minors to the big leagues. Not to mention, there will be alot of money falling off the books after 2012. I look forward to this upcoming season, as the NL East is now the toughest division in all of baseball.

pissed off fan

January 13th, 2012
11:00 pm

DJ.. no body on this blog has ever said “Trade just for the sake of trade.” Get your facts right. Most fans expect better.
Wren did say he was going to improve this team..other than dumping Lowe and hitting coach..A Big ZERO! All you fans saying braves are going to win …we’ll see who’s in play-offs and WS.

Joey Paden

January 13th, 2012
11:27 pm

Has anyone contacted Liberty Media at their website? I have been thinking about it and tell them what I think if them. And tell them to raise the stinking payroll.

Joey Paden

January 13th, 2012
11:29 pm

I still wished that the owner of the Dallas Mavericks would by the Braves.

DavidC

January 13th, 2012
11:47 pm

Really? The answer to your question is….Simmons. I agree..we didn’t improve our team during the off season, and we didn’t get the right handed power bat we needed. Wilson is a joke…should have signed Conrad before we resigned Wilson (at least Conrad gives us some POP off the bench…and someone who can play 3B WHEN! Chipper goes down, besides Prado.) Allow Prado to concentrate on one position so that he can return to his old hitting form.

B Rickey

January 14th, 2012
12:00 am

Here’s a move that would liven up the fans AND improve the batting order. Bring in Manny Ramirez.
Granted, he is a liability in the field, but even in his last full season, his OPS was +900. See how that squares with last season’s Braves roster.

Manny says he is dedicated to a come-back. He’s a lot of things, but at the top of the list he is a hitter. And, he would be affordable, even to the LM Braves.

Brave New World

January 14th, 2012
12:14 am

Braves4Eva January 13th, 2012 7:04 pm Wow – They REALLY improved the team didn’t they. That was earth shaking stuff. Bravo! Sure got the Phillies scared and a bit nervous with that signing Wren-tin-tin!

Much like the Phils signing Thome, Rollins and Kendrick is making the Braves scared and a bit nervous – moron!

Thadsdad

January 14th, 2012
12:35 am

Just do the math – eight starters (Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, Beachy, Minor, Delgado, Medlen, Teheran) and another (Vizcaino) who was thrown into the bullpen out of necessity. Meanwhile, still no power bat in the outfield for what seems like a decade, a rookie shortstop who may or not be able to cut it in the major leagues and enough question marks (Heyward, left field, Chipper’s health, Uggla) to create six new board games.
Reportedly, there are enough young arms in the system to take care of the future. So why is this team not trading from its strength to fill its obvious needs? If what has been reported is true, the team could trade a large number of young arms without mortgaging the future.
So why not?
Sure looks like fourth place to me. But, on the positive side, the Braves are in position to institute the first seven-man pitching rotation.
At least they’ll get mentioned on the MLB Network for that trivial tidbit. It sure won’t be for contending in the NL East.

Jerry in Tennessee

January 14th, 2012
7:09 am

I like the team the way it is. I have never thought the Braves needed another power hitter to hit into double plays and not score from second. The problem has not been lack of home runs. The problem has been waiting for the home run. With more speed and fewer double plays at SS and a full season of speed in CF the make up is slowly changing. Losing Lowe was a bonus. The Braves are better than last year and without September they were pretty good.

Lil' Barry Bailout

January 14th, 2012
7:40 am

Yawn. Let us know if the Braves add any major league hitters to the roster.

Lil' Barry Bailout

January 14th, 2012
7:43 am

I wouldn’t trade any young pitchers. A good chunk of their starting rotation is either old (Huddy) or fragile (Hanson, Jurrjens) so those young guys might be needed real soon.

Coach D

January 14th, 2012
8:15 am

So… Pastornicky is going to be the starting ss??? Oh boy, here comes another “just-miss” or “just-make” of the playoffs. Anybody want to buy the Braves from Liberty Media?????

Red Wolf

January 14th, 2012
8:24 am

I agree with Jay but would amend to say we’ve done nothing good. The team as now comprised is not as strong as last year. Fredi needs to learn from Bobby and rest McCann every 5th day because of the heat and humidity. If Prado does end up staying, then he needs to remain in LF permanently. We’ll lose Bourn after this season so his acquisition was a waste and he didn’t add much last year. Heywood needs to get his head on straight, if possible. We’ll be fighting the Nats for 3rd place.

On another note, now that Zambrano is in our division, let’s not forget last year. He has something coming to him.

GaryinBham

January 14th, 2012
8:43 am

I agree, Jerry. I like the moves so far, and I like not making a stupid trade just because we’re all frustrated at coming up one short. Nobody knows how a year will go. Next year, a manager has his second season, this collection of personalities can go through a whole year together. I like our chances with Bourn here all year, Martin is more likely to hit .300 than .260 again, and our pitching will only get better. I can’t wait!

Kyle

January 14th, 2012
8:52 am

Who is going to waste their time watching this same group that couldn’t even go 500 and in September to get a playoff spot? Hopefully the team will be sold soon and after another year of not making the playoffs they will clean house.

Ray

January 14th, 2012
8:54 am

For those of you on here that are ticked off at Wren for not making more moves or making a trade. Please tell me what would you like for him to do? Especially as many on here thinks its so easy to make a trade. Tell me your expert trade. For those complaining about Prado’s numbers for a LF, if he played 2nd, would you be happy with those numbers? And what if Uggla played LF, you would probably be happy with those numbers for a LFer. The point is easily made.

Ray

January 14th, 2012
8:57 am

Please stop with the nonsense about Liberty Media. They are not selling the Braves any time soon. I would much rather have Liberty Media than Peter Angelos as an owner. Oh and for those that think just having a higher payroll equals a better team ask the Mets, Cubs, Whitesox, Orioles, how that is working out for them.

Obee

January 14th, 2012
9:01 am

Let the whining begin! It’s going to be a great season!

Let's Go

January 14th, 2012
9:01 am

How that the Yankees have upgraded their pitching with the Pineda and Kuroda deals yesterday I wouldn’t be surprised to hear the Red Sox, Rays or Rangers want to talk about a trade for Jurrgens.

meh

January 14th, 2012
9:11 am

Well, at least they have pitching now, right?

Braves Banter

January 14th, 2012
9:20 am

It’s Clear most of the whiners on here know little about real MLB beyond what they pick up in their fantasy league! sit tight folks, it’s a long season

Ray

January 14th, 2012
9:22 am

Ray’s do not need another starter. They may have the top 4 pitchers as a full rotation in baseball. Rangers about to sign Yu.

Preston Hannatized.

January 14th, 2012
9:23 am

I repeat my contention that Martin – a nice young man and popular with his teammates – is not much more than Omar Infante with slightly more power. Good guy to have on the roster but an everyday corner outfielder, no. Uggla took the job Martin should have – so trade him. And I’ll curb my enthusiasm for the signing of Jack Wilson. Who was that other Wilson the Braves signed (Craig?) and waived in May. Wilson is this year’s Joe Mather. A desperate reach by an overmatched, underfunded GM. What do you see that forecasts any more than a 85 win season?

Supes

January 14th, 2012
9:28 am

The problem for the Braves “isn’t so much the lack of blockbuster type moves”….it’s that EVERY other team in the NL East (with the exception of the NY Muts who are destined for the bottom of the division due to cutting payroll, etc) has gotten upgrades in either lineup, or starting pitching or bullpen.

I expect the Phillies to again win the NL East…now the Nats and Marlins will be tougher to beat. The Braves will be LUCKY to finish 2nd…I honestly expect a 3rd place finish and decreased amount of games from last season….we won 89….I don’t think anything better than 82 is realistic at this point.

Brave New World

January 14th, 2012
9:52 am

The Braves have more than enough quality pitching at starter and relief to be successful in 2012. We will have a decent enough line up to score the runs needed to compliment a dominant pitching staff. Relax naysayers, this team will win about 90 games and make the playoffs.

Tampa Fan

January 14th, 2012
9:57 am

This does nothing to improve our pathetic offense. We will go into the season hoping that Heyward will suddenly become an effective hitter who can stay healthy for a full season (0 for 2), Pastornicky can hit and play adequate D at the major league level (no evidence to suggest he can do either), Chipper will stay healthy and play like he did 10 years ago, Uggla will prove that he is more than a .230 hitter and provide consistent production, Prado can stay healthy for a full season (never has), JJ and Hanson will stay healthy for full seasons (0 for 6 combined), and our starters will give us enough innings to not wear down a good back end bullpen. We also have to hope that the front end pen is good enough for FG to not feel compelled to use Venters and Kimbrell in non save situations. If all of this happens, we might be able to stay close to Philly and Fish. Not feeling too good about our chances.

IHEARTCARROLL

January 14th, 2012
9:59 am

The one trade I would love the Braves to make that nobody ever mentions is to trade some of our whiney fans for some other whiney fans from another team.

Bayou Brave

January 14th, 2012
10:17 am

ncbravesfan @ 9:13 pm

Great post.

D man

January 14th, 2012
10:18 am

The Braves aren’t trying any more. They should have locked Prado into a long term deal if they were. This is getting old fast and pissing me off. Come on man!!! ;(

dogsbrekky

January 14th, 2012
10:32 am

I will make my most moronic comment of the year.. I would look to trade both JJ and Hanson for major HITTING talent.. look for Delgado, Vizcaino and the raft of others to replace the 2 highly injury prone Young stars of today.. Hanson’s action seems to worry every pitching guru out there and both he and JJ are represented by the dodgy empire… Tommy H may be a perennial injury risk or flame-out like my beloved Steve Avery

Disgusted

January 14th, 2012
10:39 am

The angst about the FO and ownership is correct and understandable, but come on, what did you really expect.

And do not put it all on Wren, yes, Frank has made a few mistakes with Mc Louth, (trade) Kawakami and he grossly overpaid for D. Lowe.

But overall, for what Liberty Media has given him to work with, the Braves at least matter. The last 3 yrs they mattered anyway,, but last yrs bitter choke up is still sour in the mids of fans.

Had they not collapsed the way they did, I would not be so bitter. But most of my ire is toward ownership more than anything.

Sadly, for some reason they might not be going away anytime soon.

Other ownership groups give the impression they care about the fans and team on the field. This group, best thing to say is a no comment.

.

smyrnabob

January 14th, 2012
10:39 am

Yoenis Cespedes is expected to be declared a free agent soon.

Disgusted

January 14th, 2012
10:43 am

dogsbrakey—If the kids like Beachey, Teheran and Delgado really come out strong by June, your comment is not moronic.

We also have to have Hudson healthy too. If the SP;s really break out healthy and good, I would not be surprised to see Hanson (who can bring more in return than JJ) moved, JJ is not going to get you a major hitting talent.

I like JJ, he wins and gives you a good ERA, ut JJ just does not fare up in these sabermetric stats, and with the SABR new school GM’s out there, that hurts his value.

I do not like it, but it is what it is.

Ted Turner

January 14th, 2012
10:48 am

I think the Braves will finish in 4th or 5th place because the offense sucks.

You know me, I tell it like it is.

dogsbrekky

January 14th, 2012
10:50 am

Yankees gave up Montero for Pineda.. now if there wasn’t a trade possibility between us and all of our SP talent and the Stinkees well ….

Montero could be taught to play LF yes… kid absolutely rakes and gets on base

Mitchell

January 14th, 2012
10:54 am

Frank Wren

January 13th, 2012
7:21 pm

Just one more brilliant move by me to improve our chances to win the WS.

KnightInATL

January 13th, 2012
7:21 pm

After our attendance numbers this past year, I can certainly understand why Liberty isn’t exactly giving Wren carte blanche

The Braves have made the playoffs once in the past six years. That’s two extra home games in six years.

Maybe if this sorry a** team ever got close to the World Series attendance might just go up by say, one, at the very least.

The fact is there are no greater underachievers in the game of baseball than the Braves.

Don’t try to sell us that we can’t win with what we have when there’s an All Star at practically every position.

Win games, win the World Series, don’t blow 10.5 game wild card leads and then you won’t have attendance problems.

tell the whole truth for once

January 14th, 2012
10:55 am

Where is the Kawakami-McLouth money being spent this year? That’s almost 15 million. Add that to the 5 million they’re getting back from the Indians for Lowe and you’ve got 20 million to spend that you didn’t spend last year.

And don’t try and convince the fans that it was all eaten up by arbitration and raises. Tell the truth. Payroll is going down this year.

ncbravesfan

January 14th, 2012
10:56 am

Tampa Fan, if you’re a Rays fan, then why are you on here lamenting about the Braves and their potential woes?

O'Brien's a total cream puff

January 14th, 2012
11:01 am

truth,

O’Brien is nothing but a kiss-up hoping to get another buddy motorcycle ride in with Fredi. You don’t seriously expect him to expose anything that the organization doesn’t want exposed, do you?

dogsbrekky

January 14th, 2012
11:11 am

Not sure I follow , Dave writes a blog for us to keep abreast of happenings.. how does his reporting upset you so ?

not his fault the ownership is cheap

O'Brien's a total cream puff

January 14th, 2012
11:12 am

He won’t point out that they are decreasing payroll. He won’t ask tough questions. It’s really not that hard to understand – not sure why you’re having trouble.

don

January 14th, 2012
11:13 am

It is past time for Chippy to retire. If he did so now he would be the MVP of the Braves this coming season. Prado needs to be at third base- not Chippy.

stew

January 14th, 2012
11:31 am

The truth is that the Braves had to beat the Phils last year and worry about becoming the wild card. Win the regular season and the Braves would be worthy of winning the World Series.

Braves fan since '68; Proud of it since '91

January 14th, 2012
11:42 am

Agreed whole-heartedly with sentiments of ncbravesfan! Believing with my heart, not my head? That’s okay – it’s the essence of being a FAN.

Charlie

January 14th, 2012
11:42 am

AGH, the Braves will probably start 2012, as the same CHOKE TEAM that they were in September. While the Phillies, Marlins, and Nationals improved over the winter, the Braves accomplished NOTHING. This present roster will compete as the 4th best team in the East. (Hopefully, they will finish better than the Mets.) With Bozo Fredi as their leader, this 2012 team will be a non-contender, and non-competitive.

Tampa Fan

January 14th, 2012
11:44 am

Ncfan, I recently transferred to Tampa from Atl. Longtime Braves fan. Really want to see the team improve. I agree with dogsbrekky’s comment. Trade JJ and Hanson for some bats. History suggests neither will ever stay healthy and provide consistent production.

Disgusted

January 14th, 2012
11:55 am

“Yankees gave up Montero for Pineda.. now if there wasn’t a trade possibility between us and all of our SP talent and the Stinkees well …”

Dogsbreaky—The thing that I think is keeping Frank from pulling the trigger on a deal using a pitcher for a big hitting talent is that they are unsure about the health of the three established pitchers on the staff.

And the kids, well, the way the Braves have to build the team, prospects are pretty much untouchable because they are cheaper and under team control.

In essence, as we all know, Frank’s hands are tied because of what LM gives him to work with.

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Disgusted

January 14th, 2012
11:57 am

I wonder if Rob Parker would take a minute and see some of these comments on the AJC blog and still say we are namby pamby fans.

What a POS of irresponsible reporting. His work in Detroit spoke for itself.

Disgusted

January 14th, 2012
11:59 am

Don—Take a look at Chippy;s numbers for 2011.

They were pretty darn good and most 29 yr olds would be happy with the year that then 39 yr old guy had.

Runner-

January 14th, 2012
12:08 pm

Is Jack Wilson really going to be our starting shortstop?? Or are they that confident in Pastornicky performing well?

Braves 2012

January 14th, 2012
12:33 pm

To trade Prado after an off year would be the epitome of stupidity.
Braves have done that so many times before.
You folks are aware deals can be done in the spring or April thru July if necessary.
Frank Wren has been in too big a hurry most years.
With our pitching staff, we can trade from a position of strength.
No sense making a bad deal just to get something done as Frank has done a time or two.

Drew

January 14th, 2012
12:36 pm

Jack Wilson will probably only be a starter for a doubleheader game or once every few weeks.
If the Braves need a SS after the season starts, they’ll pick someone up before the trade deadline for cheap.

If the Braves actually end up with a lower salary this year, can they use that for the following year?

Woody Woodward

January 14th, 2012
1:14 pm

My bet is that the braves make a trade during spring training, when teams can get a close look at prado and jurrgens after their full recoveries. Patience.

woodchuck

January 14th, 2012
1:16 pm

I’m going to be pretty mad if the Braves dont get Cody Ross

Matt

January 14th, 2012
1:21 pm

They have no right to wonder why attendance drops again next year, as it surely will. Those corporate jerks and some in the Braves front office love to b!tch and whine about fans not filling the stadium, but give me one good reason why I should spend my hard-earned money on a team that did nothing to improve after one of the worst collapses in MLB history, AND after the PRESIDENT of said team sent out an apology letter to the fans, promising to get better and prevent a similar scenario from happening again? I love baseball, but I hate spending money on losers.

I hope the Braves prove me wrong, but I’m not holding my breath anymore.

woodchuck

January 14th, 2012
1:35 pm

I think we have a nice core here and a good hard working team, but we’re a victim of the circumstances within our Division . Philadelphia is obviously a cash cow market up there with their ballpark, the fans and the revenue they bring in. Miami and Washington are steadily improving by signing some good FA’s but just when you think we have it so bad, just remember at the end of the day, we still have the Mets to LOL at and pick on.

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