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Larry
January 13th, 2012
10:57 pm
Do as I have done, stay away from Turner Field, then and only then will Mr. Wren get the message
It is this attitude that keeps the Braves at 90 million and less. Phillies sell out EVERY nite, over and over and over. They cheer. Sure they are obnoxious, loud foul-mouthed goons, but hey, they at least show up.
I see comments like that and it burns my butt. The message I get is…well, no need to get personal.
Larry
January 13th, 2012
11:02 pm
Kudos to Mr Wren for signing Martin Prado. I sure would have hated to see him go. I think JJ will bounce back this year also. Hell, if JJ’s only going to have half a good season, we have plenty of jam up pitchers. His half season is better than most pitchers do in a full season! I also like signing Jack Wilson. I suggested that to my buddy a few months ago.
Ted Turner
January 13th, 2012
11:07 pm
I thinking about buying the team again and and turn this franchaise around. It has never been good since I sold the team. I promise I will make the team a winner again. If I have too I will manage the team too.
Joey Paden
January 13th, 2012
11:10 pm
Larry I totally agree with you. Wren will get the message.
So will Liberty Media. You can’t have fans without the right players. Raise the payroll so the Braves can get back to the playoffs. Not happening this year for sure.
Charles
January 13th, 2012
11:20 pm
I share the sentiments at the anemic efforts to try to improve this team, but given the Liberty factor, signing Wilson is probably a safer bet than Pastornicky, who had 26 errors in 117 games in AA/AAA vs Alex Gonzalez’ 12 errors in 149 games along with a lot of robbed hits that won’t happen with Tyler based on the scouting reports on young Tyler who is long on the bat but woefully inadequate in the field. Since we chose to let Gonzo go to sign a 1 yr deal elsewhere, Wilson is a far safer bet than Pastornicky.
Larry
January 13th, 2012
11:27 pm
I should have put quotation marks around my statement. This was from a person who said this earlier
.
“Do as I have done, stay away from Turner Field, then and only then will Mr. Wren get the message”
I do not think like that but a lot of fans do. If I lived closer than Lexington SC, I would make more games than I do. I lived in Atlanta in !965. I still get there for choice games…wish I was in a position to get yearly season tickets. We need to support the Braves and not tear them down at each opportunity.
Go Braves!
pissed off fan
January 13th, 2012
11:31 pm
Ralph why in hell would Braves wish to save money for 2013..do they not wish to win this year.
Charles, Alex signed for two years 5.7 million plus alot of bonus $$ for performance.
Stop the no money crap– braves have money thats BS..Liberty just don’t wish to spend it.
Wrens letter was a lie.
Pissed of Fans have been pissed on by Management and forked tongue GM..
Brave New World
January 14th, 2012
12:10 am
Good move.
Ralph
January 14th, 2012
1:46 am
pissed off fan
Ralph why in hell would Braves wish to save money for 2013..do they not wish to win this year.
Because with the budget they have there is no way they can win in 2012, but if they did as I proposed they would have lots of money available in 2013 which they could use to add the needed pieces to go with a very good young foundation team. Then they would have a contender for years to come that would fit Liberty Media’s low budget.
GaryinBham
January 14th, 2012
8:39 am
Predictable negativity to a solid signing. Frankly, it started to worry me that Pastornicky would not have a decent backup because the guys like Jack Wilson were being signed. Wilson came in for part of a season, so it will be different being here from the beginning. He’s not the hitter he used to be–he was an All-Star in 2004, but he’s no automatic out, and he was often among the leaders in sacrifices, something we’ve been woeful at. We keep changing what we gripe about on here. Are we moving younger or not? If so, you ahve put the right pieces around. It’s transition time, but this team can fight for it. I’m no fan of Liberty Media, but I do think FW is making solid moves, and some good NON-moves. Haven’t we signed enough Kawakamis for a while? Let the farm system win for us. It’s worth a shot.
TeheranTime
January 14th, 2012
8:46 am
Woo hoo! The Braves made a move! Yes! Seriously, is this what Frank Wren has been working on all winter? You have a monumental collapse in September, subtract Derek Lowe and add no one. Great job.
LivinInAL
January 14th, 2012
9:30 am
Good sign for the Braves, expected it before now. Wilson fills the utility spot, can play 3 positions and very affordable. His presence allows the development of Pastornicky without feeling the world is on his shoulders.
Brave New World
January 14th, 2012
10:02 am
Mets R Best January 13th, 2012 5:17 pm Wooo! Wow! Jack Wilson! You Braves really know how to pull off the big deals. Now the rest of us in the NL East and all of MLB are really scared!
Mets R Best: Thanks for the comic relief. There are too many people who take these blogs way too seriously. Your “never say die” approach to being a Mets fan reminds me of the days when the Braves were truly bad, and I supported them nonetheless beacause they were my team, win or lose. I admire your fervent support of your team, the Mets. I hope you have a good 2012.
Chipper "The Injury" Jones
January 14th, 2012
10:30 am
I think the Braves 90 million payroll is in Pesos and not US Dollars. That would explain a lot.
Mister Frisky
January 14th, 2012
10:37 am
The Braves already had their big spending local billionaire a guy named Turner.They under achieved and could only manage 1 title.Those days have passed.This is a 4th place team plain and simple.Questions at every position and a rotation that can’t get out of the 6th inning.Malone and Liberty could easily free up an extra 10 mil to improve this impotent offense.
don
January 14th, 2012
11:09 am
Good signing but Simmons, not Pastronicky, is the likely shortstop of the future. Of course, if the management of the Braves had any measurable intelligence, the shortstop would be Andrus.
TeheranTime
January 14th, 2012
11:17 am
I know we can all play “what if’s” but what if Atlanta had never made the trade to acquire Mark Texiera? They would be looking pretty doggone good right now.
No Crying
January 14th, 2012
12:02 pm
What a bunch of whiners. Must be a slow year in the Hot stove league, with the blog-o-shpere bashing the signing of a bench player. Alex Gonzalez would not have worked as a lame duck shortstop. He is still a starter and probably would not have been happy being a back up to the new wunderkind.
Management is obviously doing the money ball thing and building from within and not bringing in a bunch of over paid stars. Wren is dedicated to bringing in a new mind set focused on speed, defense and playing hungry. I am excited to see these kids get to work. In the mean time I think we have a solid and capable team.
Sure there are a bunch of “ifs” involved (If Prado, JJ, Huddy, Hanson, Uggla and Heyward, Jones all rebound/recover/stay healthy). Is there enough depth with Wilson/Hinske/Constanza/Diaz/ and Ross on the bench or down on the farm to cover the inevitable injuries. But then that is baseball. This is the same team that was cruising for the first 5 months of the season in spite of a rash of injuries, and “off year performances.” The team just ran out of umph. It was obvious in early September that we were holding on and trying to just get to the finish line.
I don’t see much suspense in the roster this spring. It looks pretty set.
Position Players: 8 Starters
CF Bourne
LF Prado
3B Jones
C McCann
2B Uggs
1B Freeman
RF Weyward
SS Pastornicky
Bench 5 or 6 players
Diaz
Hinske
Wilson
Constanza
Ross
Pitching:
5 Starters
Huddy/JJ/TH/BB/MM
6 or 7 Relievers
Early and long Relief:
Martinez/Medlin/Vavaro or Viscaino
Late Relief:
O’flaherty/Venters/Kinbrel
Only thing left to do is get in shape and play ball.
John A.
January 14th, 2012
12:09 pm
I agree with an earlier writer when he posted….If Pastronicky is so good why wasn’t he called up in September? As stated then…..”he wasn’t ready for the bigs”…..so what has changed? I certainly hope is is ready and not being thrown to the wolves. Jaxk Wilson is a good move….he had a bad showing after arrivingin Atlanta, but I’m sure he was hurt. He has always hussled since arriving in the bigs, and I’m sure we all will see a different guy on the field this year. What has changed with the power hitting LF spot? Still exists doesn’t it?
pissed off fan
January 14th, 2012
1:17 pm
I’ve always been excited for Spring Training (usually go) and Season to start…but not so this year. Braves are not a very exciting Team anymore..
GM’s failure to improve team and lied to fans..don’t make for a good year. Present team as is will not win. In fact we are not better than last year at this point. Un-proven SS and we don’t know how the injuried pitchers will come back. Plus how the young pitchers will react. Oh well everyone knows all the if’s. Expect another so-so year.
Price66
January 14th, 2012
1:37 pm
All I read here are grumblings and bad attitudes. Gve the Braves a chance. No free agents were affordable with the team payroll. They did not find a trade situation to their liking. There is still time to hopefully find a left field bat. If not, Prado is pretty good. Lets get excited about some spring training baseball! Go Braves!
Realistic Braves Fan
January 14th, 2012
1:51 pm
At first I was going to reply to all the annoyingly stupid posts, but then I ran out of typing space. And not able to quote people posts (which this blog needs) made it too difficult.
There are a lot of retards on here.
The Braves’ collapse can’t be fixed by adding $125mil to a payroll we’re already close to maxing out on.
A-gone is the best defensive shortstop, a better option than Wilson I think – but they let him get away. I’m ok with him getting more outs than hits for his defensive abilities. I think we’ll miss that this year and you fools will be on here bitching about wanting his glove back.
Adam Jones? Come on, what a waste.
Seattle Braves
January 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
Atleast we know we stand this year.
Seattle Braves
January 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
Atleast we know were we stand this year
bvillebaron
January 14th, 2012
2:08 pm
Price66:
I agree with you, but good luck trying to talk rationally to these guys who think (1) spending money guarantees championships (remember how that Cliff Lee signing “guaranteed” a World Series for the Phils) and (2) keep whining about how cheap Liberty Media is (uh, hello tell us something we don’t know guys-by the way,-that ain’t changing so go root for the big spenders like the Yanks, Red Sox and Phils if you don’t like it).
Some of these rocket scientists might be interested in knowing that the Vegas line on the Braves did not move(i.e. go down) even after the Marlins and Nationals made their headline moves. How could that be? Well let’s see if I can explain it to you guys.
The Braves have the most important ingredient for successful baseball: pitching. Not only do they have 9 proven or top end prospects as candidates for the rotation (Hudson, Handon, Jurrjens, Beachy, Minor, Teheran, Delgado, Vizcaino and Medlen); they also have one of the best, if not THE best, and deepest bullpens in baseball (what do you think others teams would pay to acquire Kimbrel, Venters or O’Flaherty if any of them were on the market, which thank god they are not).
I understand that this team could use a power hitting left fielder, but tell me who was avialable on the free agent market who wasn’t overpriced and/or well past his prime? I think Wren was and possibly is still willing to trade Jurrjens in the right move, but apparently he hasn’t been offered value for him. Maybe that is because JJ was injured at the end of last year and thus his market value is low (same for Prado who for the life of me I don’t understand why he was on the trade market). What do you do in that scenario? Well, duh, you keep them and wait for them to perform like they have in the past so you can trade them later if you still want or need to.
The fact of the matter is this team is better right now then it was last year despite not having made any major offseason moves. They improved because whoever takes Lowe’s place in the starting rotation is an upgrade. They are better because they will have the best base stealer in the game, Bourn, for the whole season. They improved because it is hard to imagine that Heyward will be as badr as he was last year and that Prado and McCann will also struggle due to injuries. They are better because their young players and prospects will be one year older and one year better.
I guess many of the critics on here are like me and they haven’t seen Patornicky play. Thus, it is hard to judge him. The so called “experts” claim he should hit, but doesn’t have top end upside. It aslo is obvious that the Braves are going to pencil him in as their everyday shortstop. Given that circumstance, signing Wilson to a 1 year club friendly contract as insurance makes PERFECT sense.
Swede
January 14th, 2012
2:42 pm
After having read all the posts in this blog, it’s pretty obvious what Braves biggest need is (no, its NOT a power hitting LF).
It’s the Fanbase!
Listening to 90% of those who post her makes me wonder why they care about this team. According to them, everything sucks (except Phillies, Marlins and Nationals).
Is it possible to upgrade the Fanbase via trade, or do we have to go the FA route?
pissed off fan
January 14th, 2012
2:43 pm
1:51..you the only fool on here.
I may not agree with other opinions but they have a right to express it. That means you–but calling others “fools” for not agreeing=you!
12:02– “What a bunch of whiners”–No crying–So everyone that don’t agree with management and you are whiners–lol! Man speak for yourself.
Mister Frisky
January 14th, 2012
2:51 pm
Maybe Wren can hit the exacts and re sign Liestink.
Mister Frisky
January 14th, 2012
2:53 pm
I mean exacta.
Bill
January 14th, 2012
3:28 pm
I’ve been a fan since 66. I’ve seen the good bad and ugly with only one WS Championship. Why should I expect more now?
GM for the Day
January 14th, 2012
3:40 pm
Good signing, they did what they needed to do – solid veteran backup that can play multiple INF positions and teach the kid how to play defense. Now, what about quiet deal (and take a bit of a flyer) with the Cubs for Alfonso Soriano – if the Cubs pay most of the remaining salary on his contract? LF, RH bat, hit 25 HRs, 80 something RBIs. Not great, but can help the offense by leaving the park. As long as the asking price in young pitching isn’t too high. Thoughts?
JoeBrave
January 14th, 2012
3:41 pm
In two weeks from the beginning of the season, JACK WILSON will be the starting SS! bank on it! and folks that is down right an ass eating proposition! Screw you Wren!
ColoradoBravesFan
January 14th, 2012
3:54 pm
John A.
January 14th, 2012
12:09 pm
I agree with an earlier writer when he posted….If Pastronicky is so good why wasn’t he called up in September? As stated then…..”he wasn’t ready for the bigs”…..so what has changed?
Pastornicky was not called up in Sept because he was injured while playing for AAA Braves team. Read below….
Tyler Pastornicky might replace Alex Gonzalez as Braves’ shortstop in 2012: A fan’s view
By Jeffrey Weeks, Yahoo! Contributor Network
Sep 19, 3:23 pm EDT
Atlanta Braves minor-league shortstop Tyler Pastornicky didn’t get a September call-up due to injury, but it’s quite possible he’ll be in the running for a starting job in the Atlanta infield for 2012.
ColoradoBravesFan
January 14th, 2012
4:00 pm
More on Pastornicky injury
The 21-year-old might have been promoted last month if he hadn’t suffered a high ankle sprain.
Ghost Rider
January 14th, 2012
5:04 pm
To No Crying, Price66, and bvillebaron-
It’s great to hear some positive feedback. My sentiments exactly. The rest of you armchair GM’s should consider getting a hobby. Go rake your yard or something……damn.
The Monger
January 14th, 2012
5:35 pm
From Lemke’s Knuckler’s:
You said:
“Unless you count the fact they’ll have Hanson and Jurrjens back, Medlen in the bullpen and the unlikeliness that Prado, Heyward and McCann will all slump for an entire month at the same time like last September. But details details…”
1. Yes, I do feel that Hanson and Jurrjens will be injured again next September, actually. I have Never been a fan of Hanson’s throwing motion (way too much elbow torque), and Jurrjens has been hurt what, like every season the last 3 years or so? So I think there is a 90 percent chance we will be without Jurrjens and Hanson again this season, maybe not at the same time, but most definately.
2. Medlen in the bullpen will be big no doubt. Huge Medlen fan. However, didnt we have one of the top 3 bullpens in the league, if not the very best, and still chocked away the playoffs. Overused or not, the simple fact is that the bullpen cant be expected to win 115 games a year, 2-1 or 1-0. It is just too much stress eventually it all comes down to the offense scoring some runs, which they havent done for ohhh, about 400 games and counting…
3. Actually, I do expect guys like McCann, Prado, and Heyward to choke again, because just like the Hawks, just like the Falcons, the Atlanta Braves are natural born chokers. The Hawks cant score a basket when they really need one, the Falcons cant score a touchdown or make a defensive stand with the game on the line, and the Atlanta Braves cant score a run to save their life when it matters. Thats Atlanta. I do like McCann and Prado, but if its not them choking in September, it will be others- Chipper Jones, Dan Uggla (maybe he goes cold at end of season instead of beggining), Freddie Freeman, etc…You just need to realize the Braves are chokers….this is what they do….this is what is in their DNA….
Nelson
January 14th, 2012
6:38 pm
Q: Will wilson bat 9th?, if that the case I agree with the move!!!!
Nelson
January 14th, 2012
6:41 pm
The Monger comment is the best one I’ve read in years!!!!
Nelson
January 14th, 2012
6:44 pm
Bill I like your’s too!!!
afan
January 14th, 2012
7:01 pm
Why Ghost Rider~~because they don’t agree with you they should get a hobby~~what a dumb azzz statement.
I guess we should all agree with Wren and shut up..thats what the Pres also wants, bet u voted for him too.
..An inmate at a correctional facility
January 14th, 2012
7:44 pm
AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Niners SCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Laughing out Loud
January 14th, 2012
8:07 pm
Scarastic whinners!
01HAWK
January 14th, 2012
11:32 pm
This team is going absolutely no where. What a joke.
Das Whiner
January 15th, 2012
2:52 am
The Braves are actually ahead of where they were last year, for those of you with a brain.
A) No Nate McLouth
B) No Derek Lowe
C) No Nate McLouth
Take those 2 away and you’re winning it all. Heyward is going to turn it around, he’s going to be playing extra hard to erase all doubts from last year. McCann and Prado will be healthier. Freddie Freeman will be Freddie Freeman with more experience. Chipper is still going to miss half the year with knee-itis but its ok as long as we can shuffle the guys around and still win. Relax and wait until some games are being played until you give up for the year!
Random
January 15th, 2012
8:39 am
The Braves should’ve re-signed AGonzalez, not Wilson.
That’s the period.
That’s the end.
Donovan
January 15th, 2012
8:42 am
You’ve got to be kidding! Jack is probably a nice guy, but he is nothing more than a journey man in the twilight of his career. Hitting .220 and 9 for 41 with the Braves and eligible for $1.5 million on a 1 year contract?
This is absolute insanity with Wren. Who is Wren’s mentor?
Dennis Reynolds
January 15th, 2012
8:59 am
I hate Braves fans. Don’t know anything.
wins-by-a-link
January 15th, 2012
9:42 am
Being able to sign top of the line free agents does not assure that you will win the World Series, The Yankees and Red sox prove that, But a certain amount of capital is required to bring about a level of talent to compete with big market teams like the Phillies and Yankees, I’m sure FW would be more proactive if he had the cash to do so, Sadly the Braves find themselves owned by a faceless and absent Corporation which does not care if the Braves win a championship but rather maintains a level of winning that produces profit and continues to supply a tax break.
STRETCH
January 15th, 2012
11:18 am
•As many as eight teams have inquired about Alfonso Soriano, reports Levine. Most of those clubs are American League teams. Levine says Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts reiterated that he’ll to eat most of the money owed to Soriano to facilitate a trade.
Heck i would do that in a heart beat. Anyone is better in LF than Prado full time. I wonder what the excuse will be next season when we get a full healthy year from Prado if he puts up crappy numbers(which he will do), just wondering what Prado supporters say then????
Mister Frisky
January 15th, 2012
12:20 pm
Heard for Wilson to get a half mil in incentives all he has to do is bat over 200.
bvillebaron
January 15th, 2012
12:41 pm
Stretch:
If you think Soriano is better than Prado, you are out of your mind. The Cubs can’t give Soriano away fast enough. Nice also to see that you are clarivoyant and know exactly how Prado will perform this year before the season even begins. Some of you guys are clueless; truly clueless!
Joe 12-Pack
January 15th, 2012
2:24 pm
FREE US FROM LIBERTY!
GM for the Day
January 15th, 2012
2:57 pm
Just to be clear, I would not trade Prado away under almost any circumstances. He will play most days even if they pulled a trade off for Soriano. Chipper will play in less than 100 games this year. He is a part of the soul of this team and will bounce back. I bet he hits .300+ this year.
Cubs will be looking for future pitching.
Brave New World
January 15th, 2012
6:59 pm
Mister Frisky January 15th, 2012 12:20 pm Heard for Wilson to get a half mil in incentives all he has to do is bat over 200.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
bill
January 16th, 2012
12:06 am
I think the braves should change there name from the atlanta braves to the atlanta “IF” braves
because all i hear is
if hayward
if chipper
if mccann
if rookie short stop
if prado
if pitching
i think you get the idea if is the atlanta braves team logo instead if the tomahawk
its way to many if’s to compete with philly
i do wish them well but the ifs are just to to to to many
Dave
January 16th, 2012
6:47 am
2012 is done before we get out of the gate. No investment, no innovation, oh yes Liberty Media still in charge!
Bulldawgman49
January 16th, 2012
8:53 am
Well I think the Braves made some good moves signing Wilson and Prado . Wilson a guy u can plug in anywhere in the infield and prado as well . Also gives us a good start on bench . I guess the outfield is one more thing they got to address on guy with some average power would be good , with the middle of the lineup power is there if chipper stays healthy . Need maybe one more Started but the home grown guys are there maybe they will step it up .
Don
January 16th, 2012
10:41 am
Now everything is set with just a few MINOR PROBLEMS:
(1) A third baseman who (despite his past greatness) cannot play defense, is only a part time player, and is hitting third in the batting order when he no longer produces like a 3rd place hitter;
(2) A rookie shortstop – who we have no reason to assume that he can be a productive major leage hitter even if he is able to do the job defensively – backed up by a veteran shortstop who is not a productive hitter;
(3) A second baseman who even though he does have some power, does not have an acceptable Batting Average or On Base Average and is barely adaquate defensively;
(4) A Right Fielder – who there is no reason to think can produce offfensively;
(5) A Left Fielder (assuming it is Prado) who we assume can return to being a great hitter – and perhaps do and effective job defensively – But then who will back up part time Chipper at third.
(6) AND MOST SIGNIFICANT OF ALL – Four of our Five Starting Pitchers are coming off injures – And everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that Pitchers are not like Position Players coming off injuries — Pitchers many times never return to being great after a serious injury.
AND EVEN WORSE — Even though we have a wealth of additional young pitching talent, this may well be meaningless as long as we continue with the situation were ALMOST EVERY ONE of our Starting Pitchers has ended up being injured – in the 6 or 7 years since Leo left as Pitching Coach.
Fols
January 16th, 2012
11:09 am
I am not a huge Wilson fan but man reading this blog is sad. Didn’t we know coming into the winter that there was very little room for movement? Maybe Prado…….and a SS?
Lowe is gone, I thought people would appreciate that more? Even though he was brought in to work innings and stay healthy more than he was to shut-out the opponent. Believe me, we’ll miss those innings because the starting rotation now is great on paper, not so great for health. The year before we brought in Lowe was a disaster for injuries, management had enough of that, brought in a horse. He sucked for the most part, but another part that sucks, is watching players land on the injury list.
I still like this line-up assuming Prado is back which isn’t for sure. The one year contract does not change things, he’s still on the block.
People have to calm down a notch. We have a solid line-up that will keep us in the top 10 teams in the league fighting for playoffs. Our pitching should be enough, our hitting should improve some. Great mix of young kids and veterans.
We’ll be in this thing.
Fols
January 16th, 2012
11:17 am
With that being said….for everyone crying about needing to up payroll and stack the line-up…..hate to say it but some of you sound more and more like a Yankee blog.
I hope MLB eventually joins the ranks of the other major sports, throws in a salary cap and raises the competitive balance between everyone. Braves would truly shine due to our ability to bring along players from our own system which is so key to the cap structure system.
Nick N' Richmond
January 16th, 2012
12:56 pm
Someone needs to tell Frankie W that taking notes while watching his new DVD of Moneyball won’t help him put together a contender. The news has been out on that for way too many years.
On a side note, those who blame Frankie for not spending are idiots. He is given a budget from higher ups that he has to work with. I’m sure if he could buy every top FA out there he would.
BravesfaninWis
January 16th, 2012
1:43 pm
Yes, the Braves need fan attendance at Turner Field in order to have the money to spend on high profile free agents, but we all know that these cheap ass owners won’t do a damn thing if it means spending big bucks on a free agent whether they sell out every game or not. Fans know that, so why spend our hard earned money to watch a team that fields a bunch of what if’s next season? The fact is, this team never does that big thing in order to get fans excited about this team again, instead they insert rookies and pray like hell it works.
Now on to some good news ( for me anyways
) my son was born last Tues and I named him after a Braves player. Yep, my son is named Hudson after Tim Hudson. See, I still like this team, just frustrated like many others here that expect the Braves to be in it every year.
mpimentel
January 16th, 2012
1:57 pm
seth smith headed to oak A’s…another almost but not make deal for this team….geez why I’m love you braves why?
wakeup
January 16th, 2012
2:10 pm
Wow!!! What a joke…
ATLcracker
January 16th, 2012
4:28 pm
Once you make the decision that Pastornicky is ready you don’t sign Gonzales. I don’t think he would have been happy as a primary backup. Wilson has already settled into that mindset and I like his attitude toward helping the team however he can.
Disgusted
January 16th, 2012
6:01 pm
Braves need a proactive owner. Its sad to be on the brink of the World Series but let not signing a LF star stop it. For you kool-aid drinkers, I’ll give you $10 for every home run Heyward hits over 15 and you give me $10 for every home run he hits under 25. Heyward is a Michael Tucker. .271 11 47
Forget about being on the brink of the WS, this team was on the brink of the playoffs and they could not get that done.
Ownership is clearly a joke, they have no relationahip with these fans or this community while other teams are trying to get better.
I don’t know if you are right about heyward yet, but another year like this and you might be right. Tucker never was anywhere close to what Heyward was in 2010. And I am not a Kool-Aide drinker, but this team has issues that stem mostly with ownership.
This is the worst ownership group in ATL sports history and yes tha tincludes Rankin Smith, Cousins and the ATL Spirit LLC. That is bad.
Disgusted
January 16th, 2012
6:03 pm
I would rather have JJ or Prado than Seth Smith anyway.
I love the Braves, its Liberty Media I hate. Too bad they are staying around for a while the way it looks.
Disgusted
January 16th, 2012
6:03 pm
I would rather have JJ or Prado than Seth Smith anyway.
I love the Braves, its Liberty Media I hate. Too bad they are staying around for a while the way it looks.
Disgusted
January 16th, 2012
6:11 pm
“We need to support the Braves and not tear them down at each opportunity.”
Go Braves!
Larry–I agree with you but these fans really do not owe Liberty Media anything. More engaged ownership might boost the fan interest, the fan base is there, I am sure that you remember the 1990’s when they were drawing over 3 million.
I think boycotting would be counterproductive but if there was more engaged ownership that had a relationship with this community, instead of three or four games a yr, I might attend in double figures. That is what I can afford as far as my personal budget and time.
As I said, I like the players, I think there are good baseball people in the FO but this ownership is disengaged with the fans, community, etc., while other teams are getting better. 90 million is nothing this day in time.
Its not like the Braves have a bad gate. This has not been a good off season, fair and square. And September did not help, I see a poor season at the gate unless some big things happen. A great start would help, LM selling out might help more.
Mike Mangan
January 16th, 2012
7:51 pm
Everybody is dissing Jack Wilson he could me the glue that pull the infield together,How quickly we forget the similarity between Jack and Rafael Belliard,The difference is Wilson is a better hitter than Raffy and did he ever solidify are infield behind our awesome pitching staff and he mentored Furcal.
On the other hand having seen Pastornicky in minors he reminds me of Jeff Blauser
Everyone is mentionig our relief corp and yet no one has even mentioned Robert Fish.Do we just hand him back to his old team?
As for Liberty Media and the money they make with their adult movies in hotels.It makes one wonder how much they are suffering from the economic slowdown.Do they not realize that should they put the Braves up for sale that it would be better to do so with an exceptional team on the field.
benchwarmer
January 16th, 2012
11:49 pm
Hey all you worriers, IF is the very definition and great appeal of baseball. What is difficult is playing the if game so far removed from the next opportunity to relieve the IF. That is why prior too and during spring training most teams and their fans resort to unrational optimism as a bandaid to cover the itch. Those who are ready at this early date to jump into the well of despair obviously have not learned all the appropriate and time tested traditions of baseball fandom. Before your next blog the assignment is to get up to speed on baseball reality, no matter how unreal it may seem, and quit trying to conduct your fan duties like a business. Also remember “there’s no crying in baseball”.
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