12:30 am January 10, 2012, by Carroll Rogers
January 10th, 201211:27 am
excellent interview. of course, Chipper can’t say negative things about management.
the issue remains why Adam Jones is the only available OF that could help the Braves. Cinn. gave 4 good players to SD for Latos and we were offerring Jurgens, but couldn’t get 2 good players ?
the end result is that we’ll end up with nothing for Jurgens when he walks as a free agent.
Beane got 4 players for Gonzlez, but the Braves can’t find a reasonable offer for Jurgens ?
when most of the NL east improves and we sit still, we are relatively weaker. the same Braves team will bring less wins in 2012 than 2011, and we need more rather than less.
January 10th, 201211:28 am
@raleighbravefan (January 10th, 2012 10:40 am) — Like Lew surmised (and Dubya would say), you misconscrewed my 10:29 am. I do agree with you on Chipper Jones — especially your 9:34 am and 10:40 am.
@Lew — Thanks for helping clear that up.
DAP – My point exactly. If your complaint is his income, then you would have to get rid of just about everyone past their first 6 years. In fact, some of the arb years can get pretty expensive. You can be in a constant state of rebuilding, like Oakland, for example.
January 10th, 201211:29 am
I have chosen to stay with ESPN. It was a difficult decision, and I’m very grateful to the Astros for the opportunity.
Selfishly, this makes me happy. He offers an unbiased opinion on baseball that I don’t believe ESPN would be able to replace. I think he is actually an underrated baseball person, and has become even better over the last few years in accepting the human aspect of the game. It would of been cool if he had gone to the Astros in a premiere role, to see if they began to draft better. I believe he just moved to Arizona, and also has a young daughter. Anyway, I’m excited to see his prospect rankings come out in a couple weeks.
Division Titles! (January 10th, 2012 9:12 am): “Most disappointing is that Chipper had so few clutch playoff performances duringnthe 15 year run. As I talk to people in Atlanta, this is the resounding frustration I get when bringing up Chipper in the conversation. His numbers may be worthy of the HOF but his playoff performance would land him squarely in the land of mediocrity.”
Which “people in Atlanta” have you been talking to — Tomahawkin and MFin04, etc?
In 16 WS games (55 ABs), Chipper OPS’d .827 with 15 hits, 2 2Bs and a HR.
In 34 NLCS games (127 ABs), Chipper OPS’d .866 with 40 hits, 7 2Bs and 3 HRs.
In 42 NLDS games (151 ABs), Chipper OPS’d .890 with 41 hits, 5 2Bs and 9 HRs.
Not exactly “sqarely in the land of mediocrity”, if you ask me.
January 10th, 201211:30 am
patio daddio it was noted earlier that only 3 third baseman played more games that Chipper that had better numbers.
actually, only two. chipper was 5th in OPS, and 2 of the 4 players ahead of him played in fewer games than he did.
McFann O O o
PS—brace, how’s it going? Good to see you around these parts again…
Robert ( chi-town)
January 10th, 201211:31 am
Come on DOB, I’ve even complimented you on keeping us up on the hot stove and winter meetings, even though unfortunately there was nothing coming out of thos winter meetings! LOL. I’m an old Braves fan. Lived through the great Aaron/Mathews years in Milwaukee, and followed them down to Atlanta. I just get frustrated when the older teams in the NL East seem to get stronger, while we stand pat! Is my new handle better?
I wish all athletes (and politicians for that matter) would be as frank and honest as Chipper is in this interview. Very cool.
January 10th, 201211:32 am
Robert (chi-town): Yes, much better. Thank ya, sir.
January 10th, 201211:36 am
rayk – I believe JJ’s value will actually rise, as he proves that his knee is OK. I assume Wren is aware of his prognosis, and has taken that into account.
Thanks for the great piece, C. Rogers. Always love Chip’s interview. Dude is def. down to earth and aware of his perception. I personally enjoyed his play last year; There isnt a single guy in the big leagues that could match his play at 39. Here’s to a successful campaign in ‘12!!
January 10th, 201211:37 am
His numbers may be worthy of the HOF but his playoff performance would land him squarely in the land of mediocrity.
Where did this come from? I can’t say I agree with this statement at all.
January 10th, 201211:38 am
just get frustrated when the older teams in the NL East seem to get stronger, while we stand pat
Does Microsoft care if Linux doubles or even triples its customer base? Huh-uh.
Other teams have improved from being awful; doesn’t mean they have improved to being contenders. Big difference.
January 10th, 201211:39 am
It will be interesting to see how Fredi does his batting order this year, who will be hitting 3rd? And where he will hit Jason and Freeman? Hard to believe this will be Heywards third season
DAP thanks for correcting me and it is very important that “sky is falling” crowd realize there is very little out there producing more than Chipper and the ones (2) are not available to ever replace Chipper. I have been reading fans, I use that term loosely, calling for Chipper to retire or be traded for 6 years now. They will cite any reason to bash him. Some use a restaurant. Some his age. Some his injuries. Others use no excuse to bash him
January 10th, 201211:40 am
well I saw luis polonia hitting the ball to the gaps at 44 years old in the D.R. winter league, chipper could also do it for sure…but he cannot be our 3rd bat in the lineup this up coming season…I think a 6th or 7th spot in the lineup take out pressure of his daily basis and knees as well…and talking about winter leagues, jose constanza is playing injured (yes INJURED), mauro gomez (1st and 3rd baseman from AAA) is heating with the bat, arodys vizcaino didn’t pitch in the tournament…see you and I will keep you all informed…
January 10th, 201211:41 am
Other teams have improved from being awful; doesn’t mean they have improved to being contenders.
Just like Clem…oops West Virginia just scored again.
January 10th, 201211:42 am
This is absolutely the worst time of year sports wise, since Falcons lost and I am not a basketball fan.
January 10th, 201211:44 am
Hmmmmmm? Can we read fans? Just a little shot at myself for being toopid.
January 10th, 201211:45 am
I think the big thing with Heyward is, can Walker make him a consistent hitter? It’l be his third hitting coach in three years- can someone please teach him how to dougie?
January 10th, 201211:46 am
Sounded just like Cox: the guys gave it their all and never dogged it
Since this is not football, how the heck does one know that players dogged it if they are not drinking beer in the dugout? I was as frustrated as anyone in last month but can’t really say that the players lacked in effort. If you are in a funk and not able to buy a hit, you are not going to get a hit no matter how hard you are on yourself. Based on reports after historical collapses, BoSox clubhouse had turned somewhat toxic while that of braves was just tragic.
I’ve been in Atlanta my entire life and this guy is by far the greatest sports figure we’ve had. Period! And although he’ll never be recognized or appreciated for half of the contributions he makes daily to this organization he will be remembered as the best player ever to wear our uniform. No offense to Dominique, The Murph, or any of the big 3 pitching staff (Maddux, Glavine, & Smoltz) but Chipper has absolutely carried us from games to stretches and even seasons some years. He’s one of the best switch hitters in MLB history. He’s a World Series Champion. He’s an MLB MVP. He has a batting title. All these accomplishments and he has to wake up daily and read some schmuck who has to lean sideways to get out of his armchair while he’s watching the game to grab his next brew before sounding off on Chipper being hurt again. It’s beyond ignorant. These same guys are going to be worshiping Chipper in 10, 15, 20 years telling everyone they see about how they got to see him play and how great he was. So go critics, say what you want about Chipper but careful of who is listening…….you’ll be singing different tunes in just a few years.
I mean hit .330/.520/.850
January 10th, 201211:48 am
Yep. Even worse for me since India is getting absolutely humiliated by Australia in test cricket.
January 10th, 201211:49 am
So, KLaw is already fired from his new job?
January 10th, 201211:50 am
So, if Prado has a pre-2011 career average year in 2012: .307/.356/.454, 115 OPS+, I wonder if the Braves will offer an extension similar to what Howie Kendrick just received from the Angels. Prado will be 29 years old on opening day 2013. A four year contract that includes his last arbitration eligible season would take him through his age 32 year old season. I’m sure much of the decision making will include what Chipper’s plans are for the future, but it’ll be interesting to see how the Braves value Prado, after listening on him this winter.
January 10th, 201211:52 am
I think he said that some of the Astros prospects weren’t going to be Hall of Famers, so the fan base was outraged and petitioned for him to not get the job………………………….
With DOB mentioning Izturis the other day from the Angels in a rumor what about a JJ for Izturis and that Bourjos kid?
January 10th, 201211:53 am
I sure hope Chipper doesn’t read these comments. He’ll probably sign another 12M extension even if he has to play third using a cane. MONEY! That’s what has kept him around and will keep him around no matter that he isn’t worth much anymore. The only thing he has accomplished is to prevent the braves from improving their offense in the outfield. ” Retire Chipper, quit being so damn selfish.”
A big key for Jurrjens is conditioning. As I recall, Braves’ management wasn’t pleased with Jurrjens sporadic conditioning. Jurrjens went into spring training last season in good shape, and then as the season advanced, there was the suspicion that he wasn’t sticking to a regimen.
But Jurrjens has everything to lose if he keeps coming up injured. To the extent that conditioning will help minimize the chances of another disrupted season, I hope he sticks to a program. Helps him and the Braves (assuming Jurrjens is twirling for the Bravos).
Efrim,you need to ask Mark Bowman. The man is a genius.
January 10th, 201211:54 am
Amen to The Truth! Well said.
January 10th, 201211:56 am
I would love to see Chipper stay around, take a lesser role, less pay, and move right into the managers’s job in a couple of years because there will be an opening on the braves.
January 10th, 201211:57 am
This was the Q&A I was waiting for. This tells us how the club house feels at this point. Chipper being a leader type and speaks the truth and holds nothing back. This is what this Q&A really revelaed.
1. Larry Parrish didnt do a great job.
2. Derek Lowe needed to be traded
3. Tommy Hanson and JJ should be traded for another Bat.
4. Prado is not being traded because of Chippers Knees
5. Four to Five guys slumping shows that we need help. (another Bat)
6. This will be Chippers Last year. The game is getting to fast again.
7. Chipper is still one of the best options for 3B on any team.
8. Chipper would be an amazing coach one day. Hitting Perferbly!
9. Chipper flat out told the front office to make a move, we need it.
10. Chipper will put it all out on the line this year.
Thank You Chipper for speaking up and for being the Man you are.
January 10th, 201211:58 am
man, why can’t braves learn about accountability from astros?
January 10th, 201211:59 am
Number 3 is Tommy OR JJ
January 10th, 201212:00 pm
Peter Moylan, when I asked him via text if his surgically repaired arm felt good when he began throwing last week: “Yeah mate, rolled the arm over a little bit. Felt great.”
Ease, I can’t believe scoots let you get away with that one. He must still be drinking.
January 10th, 201212:02 pm
Nice article CARROLL.
40 days’ till P&C report!
January 10th, 201212:03 pm
I mean hit .330/.520/.850 _ Bigwheel
So what are we looking at here, Bigwheel?
Is that obp, slg & ops …………… if so, I think Heyward will get on base much better than .330
or ba, obp & slg? Cause if its the latter, well damn…………….
January 10th, 201212:04 pm
I believe you will see a MVP from the Braves this year. Guess Who?
Largo, I highly doubt money is the only thing that keeps Chipper around. He’s spent the better part of his life (I mean, since he was a kid) playing baseball. The game is an integral part of who Chipper is. And playing a major league sport has to be a thrill with few to match (how many of us would trade desk jobs to play a pro sport?).
And the money… you’d easily walk away from $13 or $14 million annually – or whatever Chipper’s being paid? Sounds nice in theory, but very few of us would even come close to knowing what it’s like to command that much compensation. And at forty, Chipper might be an old athlete, but in life, he’s a younger man. The guy has a long life ahead of him (I’m sure he hopes). He’s had a chance as a young man to cash out. Why shouldn’t he? He’s got kids and other obligations. Why wouldn’t Chipper want to max his earnings?
January 10th, 201212:07 pm
CB, he has been rather silent…oops, Clemson just scored again.
January 10th, 201212:08 pm
Largo – Moron
January 10th, 201212:09 pm
MOylan a bit later in the season would give us an extraordinarily deep pen – which is already deep as it stands without him. He could be an immense help later in the year keeping our others fresh – which if they are not overused gives the Braves an excellent edge over the rest of the division – at least in THAT area.
What I get from Chipper’s intefview is that the players are far from happy with the end of the 2011 season and will be highly motivated to turn it around. I believe that’s exactly what will happen. This team WILL surprise many detractors.
January 10th, 201212:10 pm
JJ and Minor for Jones I like that one. By all means keep Prado, don’t give up on him because of one bad year as he was beset with injuries. With that team we could be very competitive and with a few breaks could go all the way.
January 10th, 201212:13 pm
When it gets a bit closer to ST, anywone who will be attending and wants art to get signed, let me know – I can send jpegs if you have a good printer, or hard copies if not. All I ask is you get one signed for me to help replace my collection I sold for my son’s bills.
I’ll also be adding a couple new pieces – likely a Prado, an O’Ventbrel and an Uggla – in addition to all that exist on my website. Just contact me at the usual Lewhartman@comcast.net and I’ll take care of all requests.
No one liked my JJ for Izturis and Bourjos trade proposal? I think it could be a possibility as he is a great CF’er and has speed and has put up decent numbers so far in the Bigs. Angels have Trout waiting in the wings along with Wells and Hunter to go in the OF so they might trade Bourjos.
January 10th, 201212:15 pm
Murph – I WILL have your Wurlitzer soon, as well. Really. I promise. Don’t send the 3 Year Old for retribution. Please.
richbrave – Haven’t made it to the P.O. yet – yours will come along later in the Spring.
I like it too Bobby. I think it’s worth the risk. Wondering too why here in Chicago the rumors are swirling about the Cubs getting top prospects for Garza from the Tigers. Guess everyone is a little concerned about JJ’s knee and maybe want to see how he looks in spring training before making a deal. Because I thought JJ had a much better year last year than Garza did.
January 10th, 201212:16 pm
c jones is washed and needs to retire–he’s hurt all the time and doesn’t show up in big games.
January 10th, 201212:18 pm
Yet another uninformed idiot heard from. They are omnipresent.
January 10th, 201212:20 pm
JJ and Minor for Jones I like that one. By all means keep Prado, _ bobbymahlon
Why in the world would the Braves trade 40% of their starting rotation for Jones, just to sit a better hitter (Prado) on the bench.
January 10th, 201212:21 pm
Columbus, Chipper does find his way onto the blog from time to time, and I imagine he will probably see a few of the comments.
January 10th, 201212:24 pm
Thanks for the Q&A, Carroll.
Definitely will be a sad day when #10 hangs ‘em up. Part of my childhood right there.
January 10th, 201212:26 pm
If thats true, I would like to thank Chipper for his support during my 1995 Heart Surgery. He gave a sign phot of himself and to this day it reminds me of how speacial he is to me and my family. Thank You Chipper
“Lew, Robert: Sorry, but I feel same way — every time I see Robert’s blog handle, I’m initially thrown off when there’s not a farm animal reference. Or actually when there’s a reference to anything relevant since Cox retired.”
Robert still goes on about Bobby? You gotta be kidding me. Hasnt a whole season gone by?
January 10th, 201212:29 pm
Mitchie – It’s so bad that he sponsers Bobby Cox’s BaseballReference.com’s Bobby Cox page and heads it with an insult to BC.
McFann O O o
January 10th, 2012
In response to the comments about BMac’s weight…
Here ya go
Lol! Now that i’m done grinning, however, i’m not a major league catcher who WOULD benefit from getting his butt in tip top shape. Period. Along with the rest of these guys.
That said, i’m personally in decent shape and run 5ks, 10ks and a HM once in a blue moon. I practice what i preach. Sort of!
January 10th, 201212:30 pm
c jones is washed
no argument there, i think he’s also shampooed
January 10th, 201212:32 pm
Lew, any idea how much that sponsorship has cost him? I wonder if we did any damage last year.
ok, ok, will 60% get it done?
January 10th, 201212:33 pm
Transplant – No idea at all though I think they specify how much it will cost per hit, etc. on the site. I hope he padi dearly, myself. Couldn’t happen to an un-nicer guy.
January 10th, 201212:36 pm
The Boston Red Sox appear to be closing in on a short-term deal with right-hander Hiroki Kuroda.. – Jim Bowden
Great interview, Carroll. ST can’t start fast enough!
January 10th, 201212:37 pm
He offers an unbiased opinion on baseball
I have chosen to stay with ESPN. It was a difficult decision, and I’m very grateful to the Astros for the opportunity. The Braves still suck.
January 10th, 201212:38 pm
Lew, any idea how much that sponsorship has cost him? I wonder if we did any damage last year. _ Arkansas Transplant
Not much, but if he had not locked in the price we would have bankrupted him with page hits.
I would have run a 5 second page refresh 24/7.
January 10th, 201212:39 pm
Adirondack Dave – How’s life treating y’all over there?
January 10th, 201212:42 pm
The Braves still suck.
My knees feel great, and this team is going to open some eyes in 2012. The Phillies and Marlins had better take note.
Between myself, Heyward, Uggly, & McCann, this lineup will be a force to be reckoned with.
ok, ok, will 60% get it done? _ cricket
I doubt the O’s would go for it, maybe throw in Bethancourt & Andrelton Simmons.
January 10th, 201212:45 pm
“Chipper does find his way onto the blog from time to time, and I imagine he will probably see a few of the comments.” – DOB
Chipper is Ward!!!!!!
Considering that they are the mighty O’s, it is actually conceivable that they may not go for it..
January 10th, 201212:46 pm
This was announced a while back, but in case you missed…the Negros Leagues Museum included some Braves in its Legacy Awards Class of 2011…and how many guys can say they won the “Cool Papa?” Congratulations Michael Bourn.
James “Cool Papa” Bell Award-presented to the AL and NL “STOLEN BASE” leaders
2011 Recipients: Coco Crisp, Oakland Athletics; Brett Gardner, New York Yankees & Michael Bourn, Atlanta Braves
Larry Doby Award-presented to the AL and NL “ROOKIES OF THE YEAR”
2011 Recipients: Eric Hosmer, Kansas City Royals & Craig Kimbrel, Atlanta Braves
Hilton Smith Award-presented to the AL and NL “RELIEVERS OF THE YEAR”
2011 Recipients: Jose Valverde, Detroit Tigers & Craig Kimbrel, Atlanta Braves; John Axford, Milwaukee Brewers
January 10th, 201212:47 pm
Planning on a week in Orlando to see some HS kids, UF, and Atlanta/Houston. RT @AGirlintheSouth: are you to be in Fl during ST at all?
January 10th, 201212:49 pm
Robert B sponsor(s) this page.
Watching him manage a baseball team is like watching a chimp trying to perform brain surgery – It can be fascinating in a macabre sort of way, but you feel for the patient and their family
I wonder what the B stands for: Blowhard, Bozo…….
January 10th, 2012
I think it’s funny that so many fans think that if the Nats get Fielder that the Braves will be competing for last place with the Mets. I would like Wren to get a true LF’er for maybe 2 pitchers…JJ and a Minor just because we all know Chipper will miss some games and Prado will have to take over at 3B and we need someone other than Diaz to man LF when that happens. Even if Wren doesn’t come through with getting said LF’er this line-up is still stacked from top to bottom other than SS and that remains to be seen what we get out of that position. I think what happened at the end of last season will only make this team stronger and hungrier after leaving a bad taste in their mouths to end the season. Let’s look at the competition… Marlins will be a circus all year long with the pieces they added, Phillies will be there obviously but even they are getting older and their injuires will add up with Howard starting out the season injured. Nats while improved even if they sign Fielder are still a question mark what they will get from their pitching. Braves had some bad seasons from most of their key players and were in the top 4 in the league up until the end…this will not happen again this year.
Hungry like the Falcons were this past season after the epic humiliation at the hands of GB a year ago?
We don’t need that kind of hunger for sure.
We either have the talent or we don’t. It wasn’t exactly on display in September with the likes of Heyward and others swinging wildly at anything lobbed up there.
I’m hopeful but as always am realistic too.
January 10th, 201212:50 pm
Law will be the guy in an Astro cap screaming Braves Suck!
January 10th, 201212:52 pm
Mitchie-sand – Real Ward, or Fake Ward?
January 10th, 201212:55 pm
Lew, that’s awesome! Are you sending two so I can get one signed and send it back to you?
Hmmm.. raleign. Im inclined to say the real one. What a brilliant cover that would be. Just messing with us all.
January 10th, 201212:59 pm
January 10th, 20121:05 pm
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Petey Palms Rose
January 10th, 20121:07 pm
Pete Rose stayed around forever to break the all-time hits record of Ty Cobb. He even was player/manager for the Reds for 2 years (part-time player). Some of you people shouldn’t divulge your ignorance by blogging here…
January 10th, 20121:08 pm
DOB is Chipper…
January 10th, 20121:10 pm
Yes, the gambler did indeed hang around…
He also had to actually hit the ball to accomplish what he did.
The guy is a bum but he could churn em out.
January 10th, 20121:11 pm
Great interview. I don’t think we as Braves fans appreciate Chipper quite as much as we should. He’s obviously not the ballplayer he once was, but he’s still got a lot to contribute.
I think if you kind of read between the lines, Chipper seems worried about the 2012 team just like some of us are.
I think a pretty good argument can be made that that the odds of the team making the playoffs this year seem lower right now than it did a year ago at this same point in the off season. (Assuming the playoff format stays the same.)
January 10th, 20121:12 pm
He even was player/manager for the Reds for 2 years
You can do that?
January 10th, 20121:14 pm
I bet (pun intended) it was fun for Pete Rose to bet against the Reds then mismanage the game to guarantee a loss. What a loser !
Steve from OH
It’ll be a sad day when Chipper retires. I’m not gonna go to the standard “he sacrificed so much!” line because he still makes a crap load of money, but he has left somea lot of cash on the table and I respect him for that, at least.
Plus, it’s been an absolute pleasure to watch him play the game the right way these last 18(!) seasons. And that’s the best compliment I think he can get, and it’s one that he deserves.
January 10th, 20121:16 pm
Bat–did he really sponsor Bobby’s B-R page?
That dude has some serious issues…
January 10th, 20121:17 pm
Pete Rose to booky “Gimme $5,000 against the Reds today.”
Pretty fair article about Atlanta sports fans. While I’d say most on here are slightly more invested, the general conclusion holds up pretty well.
Nice interview. This team has no shortstop, it’s going nowhere in a big hurry.
Chipper pretty well summed it up speaking of himself, Uggla, McCann, Heyward, and Prado. The veteran hitters on this team are all huge question marks, all underperformed expectations last year, and all but Uggla had trouble staying in the lineup, while Uggla somehow managed to disappear for months at a time while IN the lineup. The infield defense figures to be horrific except at first base, the outfield is weak, the starting pitching banged up or unproven or incapable of getting past the fifth inning. If everyone has a career year (which Chipper won’t) and Pastornicky plays like Tulowitzki then maybe they can complete for a wild card.
January 10th, 20121:18 pm
Murph, are you heading down to ST this year?
Jim - An avid Braves Fan
I just wish we had some LF Power.
As far as Chipper goes, I’m with all of you supporters. He’s not the Chipper of the past, but like someone said, I’ll take Chipper at 3B anytiome. He’s not only earned it but deserves it.
I’d really like to Prado stay and if healthy, JJ too. Just not sold on Hanson and JJ’s health. If we keep both and they’re healthy, we’re in it to stay.
January 10th, 20121:22 pm
Robert IS Bobby Cox. It’s all a front…
Mark's for the Braves
January 10th, 20121:24 pm
Would really like to see Chipper be able to retire a WS winner. He deserves it!
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