Bout time? Q and A with Braves third baseman Chipper Jones

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Jeff R

January 10th, 2012
9:43 am

Well, raleighbravefan, I hope I don’t qualify as a Chipper hater!

You wrote: “If he’s older, but in better shape, with a sounder knee, why would you ASSUME he will be less productive in 2012?”

From Carroll’s interview, Chipper states that his knee has been giving him worrisome trouble this off-season. Chipper brought up his age and the erosion that occurs with older players and the need to adjust. Chipper’s forty, injury prone, and will play on bad knees. Just facts. Having said that, I’ll reiterate what I wrote above: Let’s hope Chipper is healthy and productive. The Braves are better offensively when Chipper’s in the the lineup.

phil

January 10th, 2012
9:44 am

I hope we have a really good, playoff type season this year. I still don’t think Heyward will contribute much to any success we have, but if some of the others emerge from their hitting comas, maybe we’ll see good things. The rest of the division has improved itself a lot on paper, and that’s a big concern though.

Maybe we’ll at least put up a fight this go around.

phil

January 10th, 2012
9:45 am

Travis

January 10th, 2012
9:45 am

I have several vivd memories of Chipper’s great career with the Braves. The one that stands out the most is more about his love of the game and team chemistry. McCann belly flopping into third and Chipper’s reaction in the dugout is priceless…Sorry McFann but it was funny! I just tried to find it but MLB advance media has claimed ownership.

Lew

January 10th, 2012
9:46 am

raleighbraves – It will indeed be a sad day when he retires, but those knees have to be killing him with each step – certainly looked that way in September. One more time landing the wrong way on a fielded ball and that could be it.

I’m really, really glad we still have Martin.

As for his salary as someone mentioned – it’s not what’s killing our salary structure, it’s LM’s refusal to boost it even in a minor fashion that’s forcing Wren to play the game he’s had to play almost every year since he took over for Schuerholz. There’s always going to be a veteran that some feel is making too much for their level of production. People have to realize that that’s just the way things work in the world – even for companies like IBM. The entry level personnel always make the lower end of the pay scale and those with more experience and a history of performance make much more. There usually does come a point where age declines performance to varying extents, but that’s the way the system works.

AND, the younger ones always think they’re worth more and want the older ones gone. Prbably has somethint to do with a species wide fear of getting older and facing declining skills – not to mention our obsession with youth.

Jeff R

January 10th, 2012
9:46 am

“And I think Prado is sticking around for 2012. I expect a bounce back year. Already pumped for baseball to begin and it’s January 10th.”

Amen.

Ray

January 10th, 2012
9:47 am

Those that want chipper to retire so we can get a 3rd baseman that can play 162 games. How many 3rd baseman played 162 games last year? How many played 155 and put up better numbers than Chipper last year? I don’t know off top of my head, just asking? I would bet its not too many. And finally out of those that did, how many are available? I would guess none.

Jeff R

January 10th, 2012
9:49 am

“I’m really, really glad we still have Martin.”

–Lew

Double amen (let’s hope Wren agrees).

Robert

January 10th, 2012
9:49 am

Why the hate Lew? Just because I would like to see some offense! How may World Series winners has all of the abundance of pitching gotten the Atlanta Braves? In case you’ve forgotten one! We don’t have the payroll backing to got out and get free agents, so we have to go by the trade route. Andre Eithier would be another nice get for some of our prospects, but he’s another lefty. I like the idea of Jones because he’s right-handed and could move to center next year, because you know the Braves are NOT gonna resign Bourne.

Efrim

January 10th, 2012
9:51 am

Still four starting pitchers out there in free agency, Jackson, Kuroda, Oswalt, and Saunders. Could effect the market for Jair Jurrjens. If Detroit completes the Garza deal, that’d leave New York(AL), Boston, Toronto, and Colorado as teams still looking for starting pitching.

Lew

January 10th, 2012
9:52 am

Hate? Where did you see that? What I said was that if you weren’t the ” I Hate Boby Cox Because I’m totally Obsessive) then you should change your name.

However, now we see that’s exactly who we’re dealing with after all.

Ease

January 10th, 2012
9:53 am

In other news…

Atlanta offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey is interviewing with the Jaguars on Tuesday, sources said, and he is in favor of retaining Tucker as his defensive coordinator. Numerous sources with the Falcons believe Mularkey has a strong shot to win the Jacksonville job and Atlanta’s front office is ready to prepare contingency plans to replace the coordinator.

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

January 10th, 2012
9:54 am

Chipper is entertaining as always and his knowledge of the game is incredible. That said, I think 2012 is going to be a trying time for both the players and fans alike. Which will affect Chipper’s decision to retire or continue playing. Although last season was a welcome improvement from our resident Hall of Fame third baseman, I’m not holding my breath this year.

Our Braves can’t get any better at 3rd base and they can’t get any worse either. Dude can flat out hit, but his defense and range at 3B isn’t improving with age. Nor has Chipper’s wheels, even with surgery. So I’m hoping against hope that Larry Wayne .Jr has another productive season in 2012 but I wouldn’t bet money on an aging race horse.

Best of Luck Chipper, I’ll be rooting for you no matter what!

bravesgirlnc

January 10th, 2012
9:54 am

Thanks CR! I love any interview with Chipper…he does not placate. He tells it as it is. I am just so proud he has been a Brave for his whole career. He definitely does not get the credit from the national media that he deserves.

McFann O O o

January 10th, 2012
9:55 am

In response to the comments about BMac’s weight…

Here ya go

Jimmy

January 10th, 2012
9:55 am

The article stated that Chipper starts his regular off-season hitting program next week. Let’s see how that goes.
Though, I’d guess fielding and pivoting would be more taxing.
I want him coming to ST healthy with little/no pain.
That’s my hope anyway.

Brave New World

January 10th, 2012
9:55 am

Great interview! Chipper’s honest comments made for an enjoyable read. It’s obvious that Chipper believes in this team, as do most Braves’ fans. GO BRAVES!

DS1

January 10th, 2012
9:57 am

Was at the game last year on Monday, September the 12th. The folks that sat in front of us got one of those packages that allowed them down behind the batting cages before the game. Chipper came by (along with a lot of other players) and talked with them for a couple of minutes.

He told them that he was really feeling his age and he didn’t know how much longer his knees would hold up. Again, second hand info, but this is basically what he has been saying all along, if you read between the lines.

I hope he has a great year, provided he gets his weekly rest day or two. And I truly hope his is healthy enough to play effectively in 2013. But I do have my doubts that he will be able to.

Thanks for the memories Chipper.

DS1

January 10th, 2012
10:00 am

Robert

What you don’t understand is we have another infrequent blogger who hates Bobby Cox. Lew was probably suggesting you change your blog name to something like “Bob from Decatur” or something that will distinguish you as NOT the other Robert..

Or maybe “Not the other Robert”. I like that one too!

:wink:

richbrave

January 10th, 2012
10:01 am

WINTER BALL

AUSTRALIA

PERTH HEAT

Next scheduled game January 12

DOMINICA

No BRAVES played.

VENEZUELA

ZULIA EAGLES

1B ERNESTO MEJIA [,273 BA] 0-3, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 SO.

Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)

January 10th, 2012
10:01 am

Two things which all fans should be aware of……

1. Our Braves have definitely been trying to unload Jair Jurrjens. Mainly because they have so much young pitching and to alleviate some of their payroll debt.

2. Atlanta hasn’t been shopping Martin Prado, teams have been inquiring as to his availability. Nothing is outside the realm of possibility as far as trades go, but Prado can’t be replaced because the dude plays 3B, 2B, LF and even 1B in a pinch if needed.

Efrim

January 10th, 2012
10:01 am

Fielder, Pena and Ross still out there.

Kirk

January 10th, 2012
10:02 am

Thanks Carroll, great interview of a future HOF player. I think that Chipper will take himself out if he feels like he can’t do it.

Jimmy

January 10th, 2012
10:02 am

I wasn’t old enough to know at the time, but from what I’ve read, isn’t this real similar to the spring of 1968 and a player named Mickey?

Bat Masterson

January 10th, 2012
10:02 am

Okay Robert, you value Adam Jones much higher than I do.

Brava

January 10th, 2012
10:03 am

Carroll, great work as usual. Thank you. It’s really enjoyable to read a candid interview devoid of all the canned cliches normally employed by MLB players. Chipper is one of a kind and will be sorely missed by this fan once he hangs it up, as I’m sure he will be by you and DOB, as well.

Lew

January 10th, 2012
10:03 am

I haven’t seen a mention of it here so I’ll comment.

It’s about time Ron Santo made it tothe HOF and it’s a total shame it will be a posthumous induction. The Dude was the best third baseman in the NL during the 60’s and the fact he played as an insulin dependent diabetic back in the time when insulin was much more unstable (pre recombinant DNA – they got it from cattle and pigs) and the fact so much less was known about how to control the disease and the difficulties of maintaining control with major exercise makes it truly incredible what he accomplished.

After his playing career, you never saw a bigger fan of the game or a more knowledgeable one in the booth for all those years.

Just hope that somehow, somewhere, Ron’s aaware of the honor that’s finally come his way. He would be thrilled.

TennesseePaul

January 10th, 2012
10:03 am

CR, thanks for the work. Loved the Interview.

GO CHIPPER!

DS1

January 10th, 2012
10:04 am

Efrim

Is Baltimore still in the market for a starting pitcher?

bruce

January 10th, 2012
10:04 am

Always get a bit discouraged when Chipper is hurt or out of the lineup and a bit less positive when he is playing while hurt. This interview has a touch of a great baseball novel or movie to it, providing insights with depth of perspective not usually shared. Thanks Chipper and Thanks Carroll.

DS1

January 10th, 2012
10:05 am

Lemke's Knuckler

January 10th, 2012
10:05 am

Division Titles!…”We need accountability in this town not more coddling over poor results.”

You mean like Ozzie Guillen and the dumpster fire he left behind in Chicago?

Lew

January 10th, 2012
10:06 am

Robert – Yep, what DS1 said.

Efrim

January 10th, 2012
10:07 am

GO CHIPPER!

Hell yeah!

Arkansas Transplant

January 10th, 2012
10:08 am

Ease, thanks for the post.. looks like great news from the Falcons front.

Bayou Brave

January 10th, 2012
10:09 am

Great interview, Carol.

raleighbravefan

January 10th, 2012
10:09 am

Jeff R – Fair enough, RE your points concerning Chipper. I agree with Lew, and many others, that I hope we keep Martin as a back-up. I’m comfortable with that. And, no, I don’t consider you a hater. I was referring to those who act like Murph’s 3 year old…and have no appreciation for what Chipper has done, and continues to do, on the field, and in the clubhouse. Then there are those who have no appreciation or understanding for the ecconomics of baseball, and how player incomes are structured over thier careers.

Arkansas Transplant

January 10th, 2012
10:09 am

It would be nice to see Chipper play in 140 games this year.

Ease

January 10th, 2012
10:09 am

Sure thing AT…I am on top of it… :cool:

ghostwriter

January 10th, 2012
10:10 am

That was a great interview.

Chipper is so honest. Can’t wait to see him out there this year.

Efrim

January 10th, 2012
10:10 am

Is Baltimore still in the market for a starting pitcher?

I can’t imagine they would be after signing Wei-Yin Chen. They also have the following as options for the rotation: Jeremy Guthrie, Tsuyoshi Wada, Brad Bergeson, Tommy Hunter, Dana Eveland, Brian Matusz, Chris Tillman, Zach Britton, and Jake Arrieta.

Trading for Jurrjens just doesn’t make sense for them anymore.

DS1

January 10th, 2012
10:11 am

@ raleigh: Then there are those who have no appreciation or understanding for the ecconomics of baseball, and how player incomes are structured over thier careers.

There should be some sort of a law about those folks being given a computer and access to the internet…………

PMC

January 10th, 2012
10:11 am

I appreciate that Chipper always answers the tough questions as honestly as possible. That’s rare.

I’ve just got to see them do it (hit and produce) before I’ll believe they can.

Robert

January 10th, 2012
10:11 am

Sorry Lew. I mis-read your quote. Did not know there was another Robert. I’m a long time Braves fan, from Chicago. Catch them every time they are here to play the Cubs or White Sox. But I still look for offensive improvement. I love Chipper, but his time is near. Don’t want to lose Prado, but we need some offensive help, and our pitching depth seems to be the only way to get it!

Efrim

January 10th, 2012
10:13 am

Future Shock
New York Mets Top 11 Prospects
by Kevin Goldstein

System In 20 Words Or Less: With improvement coming via all three areas—draft, trades, international—the Mets are finally moving in the right direction.

Five-Star Prospects
1. Matt Harvey, RHP
2. Zack Wheeler, RHP
Four-Star Prospects
3. Jeurys Familia, RHP
Three-Star Prospects
4. Brandon Nimmo, OF
5. Juan Lagares, OF
6. Jordany Valdespin, 2B
7. Jenrry Mejia, RHP
8. Reese Havens, 2B
9. Cesar Puello, OF
10. Michael Fulmer, RHP
11. Kirk Nieuwenhuis, OF

DS1

January 10th, 2012
10:14 am

Efrim

Hey look at that laundry list of starting pitchers the O’s have………. Kind of a long list like ours.

But I don’t think I’d trade em though.

Some of those names were supposed to be pretty good pitching prospects a few years back.

b

January 10th, 2012
10:14 am

And for all those that think Prado won’t hit, just listen to Chipper.
I think he knows more than you do.
Please don’t trade Martin!

McFann O O o

January 10th, 2012
10:14 am

Travis Sorry McFann but it was funny!

Don’t apologize! That was the greatest thing in the history of baseball! :lol: :D

bruce

January 10th, 2012
10:14 am

McFann – great cartoon reference @ 9:55 am, very funny.

Lew

January 10th, 2012
10:15 am

Robert – Glad you understand – I can definitely be bitchy as all get out, but when we saw your post with no referenes to nose picking or donkeys in the dugout, we figured it wasn’t the “Real” Robert, who hates Cox with a passion – and did not mean anything nasty towards you with my comment.

DS1

January 10th, 2012
10:16 am

“Robert from the Windy City” maybe?

or “RWC”

DS1

January 10th, 2012
10:17 am

Lew

You, bitchy? Nah………..

That’d be like me being confrontational. And we KNOW that just ain’t so.

:wink:

BravePack

January 10th, 2012
10:17 am

I think it’s funny that so many fans think that if the Nats get Fielder that the Braves will be competing for last place with the Mets. I would like Wren to get a true LF’er for maybe 2 pitchers…JJ and a Minor just because we all know Chipper will miss some games and Prado will have to take over at 3B and we need someone other than Diaz to man LF when that happens. Even if Wren doesn’t come through with getting said LF’er this line-up is still stacked from top to bottom other than SS and that remains to be seen what we get out of that position. I think what happened at the end of last season will only make this team stronger and hungrier after leaving a bad taste in their mouths to end the season. Let’s look at the competition… Marlins will be a circus all year long with the pieces they added, Phillies will be there obviously but even they are getting older and their injuires will add up with Howard starting out the season injured. Nats while improved even if they sign Fielder are still a question mark what they will get from their pitching. Braves had some bad seasons from most of their key players and were in the top 4 in the league up until the end…this will not happen again this year.

DS1

January 10th, 2012
10:18 am

CR

It’s time to get Chipper on the blog some evening. Make it so sister. Obviously our everyman don’t have the pull to make it happen.

:wink:

DAP

January 10th, 2012
10:19 am

among qualifiers at 3rd base, Chipper Jones had the 5th best OPS, and played more games than 2 of the players ahead of him. heres the list, player, games played, and OPS.

1. Adrian Beltre 120 .892
2. Aramis Ramierz 149 .871
3. Evan Longoria 133 .850
4. Kevin Youkilis 120 .833
5. Chipper Jones 126 .814
6. Mark Reynolds 155 .806

none of the other qualifiers OPSed over .800.

DS1

January 10th, 2012
10:19 am

I would have liked to have gotten Chipper’s take on Pastornicky and the loss of Gonzo, but I guess you can’t have everything, huh.

DAP

January 10th, 2012
10:20 am

my apologies, beltre played in 124 games.

beekay

January 10th, 2012
10:20 am

Bottom line is if J-Hey, Uggs and B-Mac play like they are capable of then Prado’s lack of power does not come into play. He can back up Chip and platoon in Left. Sign a vet shortstop as half year bridge and the team is solid offensively. If Prado hits .310 with 15 hr’s and 80 rbi’s playing 2 positions, I’m happy. Question is would Huddy have more trade value now then JJ ? Although it would be risky a rotation of 1.Hanson,2.Beachy,3.Minor, 4.JJ, and either Delgado/Tehran or Meds/Viz is a gamble but yo still have 4 capabale pitchers in case JJ or Hanson go down. I would think Huddy would bring in more than JJ because of durability. We could trade JJ mid-season or next year if needed.

raleighbravefan

January 10th, 2012
10:23 am

Efrim – Yeah, the Mets finally have a guy who knows what he’s doing as a GM. However, man, do they have a long way to go. I can see a day, soon, that all teams in the east will be really tough.

Braves Fan

January 10th, 2012
10:24 am

I hope all Braves fan truly appreciate Chipper Jones. We are watching the final years of one of the greatest 3Bs to play the game. I have come to appreciate him more and more as he has gotten older. He respects the game and plays it the way its supposed to be played. I’ll never forget how he handled Zambrano throwing at him last year and the way he plays day in and day out when he is on the field. Thanks Chipper. I hope you have a great season in 2012.

Frank Wren

January 10th, 2012
10:25 am

Our championship-caliber roster is set, spring training is just weeks away and Chipper feels like he 25 again !

Buy some tickets !

Play ball !

ncscoots

January 10th, 2012
10:28 am

Bottom line is if J-Hey, Uggs and B-Mac play like they are capable of then Prado’s lack of power does not come into play.

Prado’s “lack of power” doesn’t come into play, in any event. If Uggla were in LF and Prado at 2B, there wouldn’t be a discussion of getting a thumper to play 2B, would there? Prado’s offensive position profile is irrelevant on this particular ball club.

There are already five guys in the nominal lineup with 20+ HR power, which is one more than you’d have if you had four corner players who profiled for their positions. So, there’s plenty of sock on the club, if they’ll quit making so dang many outs.

RedandBlack

January 10th, 2012
10:29 am

Chipper Jones is a Ball Player, folks. He is a future Baseball Hall of Fame inductee. He is what the Atlanta Braves are all about right now and they are all about having Chipper be their leader. Enjoy the good times for Chipper this year. There will be some good ones coming as usual.

Chipper has a lot of miles on him right now, but he has a lot of good miles left. Thank you, Chipper!! Go Braves!! Go Dogs!!

Random

January 10th, 2012
10:29 am

Jeff R (January 10th, 2012 9:19 am): “In fairness to Larry, he was talking about Rose (and the others) as athletes, not men.”

“Fairness”, you say?

Was Larry talking about Chipper Jones “as an athlete, not a man” when he asserted the following?

“the excuses are already in place and some you think this man is a real leader and management material.”

Or this?

“[Chipper will] selfishly cripple the chances of the team by cashing $15,000,000.00 worth of checks from February to September.”

I think not.

Ray

January 10th, 2012
10:33 am

The difference between our pitching prospects and the O’s pitching prospects, ours have a good chance of making a positive impact. The O’s not so good. They just do not have a good rotation. Lots of bodies with limited potential. Their farm system is somewhat of a mess as well. JJ would definitely be one of their top 3 pitchers. Probably their #2 pitcher. But don’t see it happening.

Efrim

January 10th, 2012
10:33 am

I think most Braves fans appreciate Chipper. Most of em……

raleighbravefan

January 10th, 2012
10:34 am

beekay – Do we have to go over this again? YOU CANNOT TRADE HUDDY. He is a 10/5 guy (look it up). He isn’t about to waive that right…He gave us a big hometown discount just ot stay in Atlanta. (Same with Chipper, by the way).

ChattTownBrian (CTB)

January 10th, 2012
10:34 am

Every morning I wake up to see if the Braves made a trade and every morning it’s the same no news sh**. :mad:

I don’t care about no Chipper interview … I want some trade action or at least some juicy news, or something.

Was a good interview though.

Efrim

January 10th, 2012
10:36 am

There is a growing trend that most of the O’s pitching prospects lose velocity when they reach the higher levels and the bigs. If this happens with Dylan Bundy, then they must seriously look at how they are working with these kids. No one organization can have this many failed pitching prospects with the exact same issue – just a plain and simple loss of velocity.

Efrim

January 10th, 2012
10:37 am

Hudson isn’t being traded. He will play out his option in 2013. He’ll be 38 years old on opening day 2014, turning 39 in July of that year. So we’ll see if he even continues pitching past his current deal.

ChattTownBrian (CTB)

January 10th, 2012
10:37 am

Efrim, Chipper has never done a thing to have one Braves fan not appreciate what he has done for so long. If they don’t appreciate him than they really aren’t fans. That simple.

Travis

January 10th, 2012
10:39 am

Not too many five tool players out there like Chipper in his prime. He was a gem for this team. Might take three players to fill his shoes. Go back to the Braves of the 1990’s and look at what they had. Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Javy Lopez, Big Cat, JD Drew, Crime Dog, Justice, Andruw, Chipper Lemk, Furcal, Brian Jordan. It took a top five payroll to bankroll that kind of lineup. Just go throught the league and it might be tough to find that many good players at any price these days.

raleighbravefan

January 10th, 2012
10:40 am

Random – One thing that Chipper is NOT, is selfish. He has always given the Braves a “hometown discount” when he could have gone FA, and made a lot more. He restructured his contract, so we could persue free agents whith the extra money. He moved to LF, to the detriment of his career, and his health, so we could sign Vinnie Castilla to play 3rd. Selfish??? I won’t call you names, but I will say that you are just wrong.

Ease

January 10th, 2012
10:41 am

No one organization can have this many failed pitching prospects with the exact same issue

Well, can this be traced back to Mazzone’s time there. He left here and all of the sudden a rash of injuries occurred…I have this on credible sources…

Ray

January 10th, 2012
10:42 am

CTB, The braves are signing Fielder to a 15 yr 300m deal. The Braves also traded their top 4 pitching prospects for Bryce Harper. I hope that satisfies you at least until tomorrow.

Bill

January 10th, 2012
10:42 am

Great Job Carroll..6 weeks and everyhing will get hot again..Chipper on trades was very cool…maybe Chipper will be a good GM one day. Thanks again Carroll & Go Braves!

Travis

January 10th, 2012
10:43 am

Pretty tough to not give a first ballot induction to Chipper when he becomes eligable.

raleighbravefan

January 10th, 2012
10:44 am

Ease – Since when has Don EVER been considered a “credible source”? :)

Lew

January 10th, 2012
10:47 am

raleighbraves – Random was quoting someone else there. I think he agrees with you.

Jeff R

January 10th, 2012
10:48 am

raleighbravefan, I didn’t think you did. :)

Those who bark about Chipper’s contract need to forget it. Business is business. The Braves elected to offer Chipper the contract he has… they could have elected not to offer Chipper a lucrative, long term deal. What was Chipper supposed to do, say, “No, thanks.” Come on.

As to the payroll, Lew said it best earlier (I think it was Lew). The Braves would be better off raising payroll – expanding the pie – rather than trying to cut more slices from a fixed pie. There’s reasons right now why that’s a not happening, unfortunately.

Jeff R

January 10th, 2012
10:49 am

Random, you got me on that one, buddy. :)

Ease

January 10th, 2012
10:51 am

Since when has Don EVER been considered a “credible source”?

I defer to Don when it comes to protecting the sheep from coyotes… :-)

Ray

January 10th, 2012
10:54 am

The O’s problem with their pitching starts with their drafting. The scouts have not done a very good job. Now the kid Bundy, let’s see what he develops in to as a major leaguer.

raleighbravefan

January 10th, 2012
10:56 am

Random – Sorry if I misjudged your comment.

Jeff R – They could have let Chipper walk…but remember, he had just won the batting title when they resigned him…AND, he is the “face of the franchise”. Tough to give him anything less than he deserved.

BravePack

January 10th, 2012
10:56 am

I would like to see Wren sign someone like Ross for cheap to play LF for when Prado moves to 3B amd Chipper rests or sits with an injury. The longer he is on the market the cheaper his price gets and being a month and change away from ST makes it a possibility.

CC

January 10th, 2012
11:00 am

Seems we have conflicts of interest here.

Some people simply want to see Chipper play, and cheer him on all the way. Those are the game/player fans. But they just may be cheering him on to blown out knees and an embarrassing and forced exit. That’s fine — we love our players.

Others would like the team to produce at maximum output in order to reach at least the playoffs — which requires using top producing players, or those who can still bounce back to top form.

Unfortunately, those views cancel each other out. Those who’d like to get to the next Series are not Chipper haters. They just have a goal in mind.

I’d hoped Chipper was going to be different than Glavine and Smoltz, and hang up the spikes before it becomes embarrassingly clear that he’s past due retirement. So — for all his candor and insight, he’s just a good-natured, aww shucks self-promoter who will not admit he is becoming a liability to the team both physically and financially.

Jeff R

January 10th, 2012
11:00 am

raleighbravefan… right. My point being is that it was all a voluntary, free market transaction. The Braves offered and Chipper accepted. A-okay in my book.

Zing

January 10th, 2012
11:01 am

Man, I’m going to miss that guy. One of the rare athletes who tells it like it is.

Patio Daddio

January 10th, 2012
11:04 am

The Braves slot for backup reserve players is around the $2M area. The Braves just will not pay more than that for someone to sit on the bench until they are needed. Diaz, Ross and Hinske fall into that slot

Murph

January 10th, 2012
11:07 am

My question is this…how many Braves had a better year than Chipper in 2011?

I’m not a Chipper hater… I like the guy. But the fact that he was one of the better performers on the team speaks more to how lackluster his teammates were rather than to how great he was. There were a few guys who I’d expect to outdo the 40 year old 3B, and the problem was that they didn’t.

I hope Chipper goes out, has a monster year, and then hangs ‘em up on a good note.

raleighbravefan

January 10th, 2012
11:10 am

Jeff R – Understood.

CC – Who would be better than Chipper in 2011? Would you havew signed him to 1 year contracts? (he would have walked). Would you have let him walked, following a year that he won the batting title? Who would be the “top producing player” that you would have signed afteer the 2008 season, and what would he have cost? Do you even think about what you are saying???

raleighbravefan

January 10th, 2012
11:14 am

Murph – Valid point about players not named Chipper in 2011. Different question…what NL 3rd basemen had a better year in 2011, compared to Chipper? How many (out of the 15 others) would you have rather had in the year 2011?

David O'Brien

January 10th, 2012
11:14 am

Lew, Robert: Sorry, but I feel same way — every time I see Robert’s blog handle, I’m initially thrown off when there’s not a farm animal reference. Or actually when there’s a reference to anything relevant since Cox retired.

raleighbravefan

January 10th, 2012
11:16 am

Hooter’s – Yeah, that’s funny…Let me ask you. What percentage of ballplayers have had a more stable marriage over a long period of time, compared to Chipper’s 2nd marriage?

raleighbravefan

January 10th, 2012
11:18 am

DOB – Yeah, some people just don’t want to let it go. Others, like Don, find something else to obsess about.

Jeff R

January 10th, 2012
11:19 am

I think Chipper and Prado in tandem give the Braves a good situation at third in 2012. I think it was Efrim the other day who listed all the solid third base prospects other clubs are developing. Wish the Braves had a 3B prospect as well regarded as some of those in other systems.

But AC (After Chipper), there’s Prado, who would be a capable full time third baseman (if he’s still with the Braves, that is). Wren could sign a free agent 3B (who’s available after 2012 or 2013, and budget is a factor). Perhaps Wren could trade for a younger, talented third baseman or land a solid prospect in a deal. We’ll see.

DAP

January 10th, 2012
11:24 am

there was one third baseman in the NL last year who had a better year than chipper. Aramis Ramierez.

Ease

January 10th, 2012
11:26 am

Keith Law news…

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I have chosen to stay with ESPN. It was a difficult decision, and I’m very grateful to the Astros for the opportunity.

Patio Daddio

January 10th, 2012
11:26 am

The better question is how many 3rd baseman had a better year than Chipper and it was noted earlier that only 3 third baseman played more games that Chipper that had better numbers. I think there are just posters who dislike Chipper and want to get their shots in on him. Fans from other teams come here a lot. I think some of the negative talk about Chipper is from them posing as Braves fans

Catchers rarely play more games than Chipper does. Catchers have a player that backs them up, right? Those are called backup Catchers. The Braves backup Catcher is David Ross and how many fans bitch and moan when Mac is rested or sits and Ross fills in. Does the reason really matter.

Chipper has a backup named Prado. When Chipper rests or is hurt Prado fills in and like Ross is very good at it. Why should Chipper be viewed any differently than McCann? I’m pretty sure some worry themselves with issues in their life at home the same as they stress and worry here. Some need to get a grip and realize we are not doomed.

McFann O O o

January 10th, 2012
11:27 am

bruce great cartoon reference @ 9:55 am, very funny.

Haha, thanks! Read that last week or sometime and immediately thought of the Blog… :P

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