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Ward
January 3rd, 2012
3:57 pm
All have a good one! Talk later tonight. Only one can hope for deal to happen soon? If not patience for me. Peace my friends………
PD
January 3rd, 2012
3:57 pm
scoots after a night out I have been awakened to more than one I had wished had said no. Ouch
Jimmy
January 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
scoots – Contrast that to the girl that says yes to eveyone.
PD
January 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
Idi Amin would eat the players
RC
January 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
Efrim,
The Braves seem to face a real risk of being caught “in between”. By the time the Phillies team has declined to the point that they are no longer frontrunners, the Nationals team might have developed enough to take over that spot for the next 5-6 years. Leaving the Braves will a potentially long streak as the 2nd best team in their division.
I’m not saying that is necessarily going to happen, just that the risk is certainly there.
STRETCH
January 3rd, 2012
4:00 pm
The Braves, Dogs and Jackets got all their fans hopes up and then almost in sequence they each found a way to go belly up.
The Braves, after they way they went out, should have made more deals than they have so far!
Could anyone write a better script for a lowsy sports town???
The Hawks will be rolling over in a few months. Stay tuned.
Efrim
January 3rd, 2012
4:02 pm
Yikes, E-Jax looking for five years, 75-85 million.
Bat Masterson
January 3rd, 2012
4:05 pm
So what do you guys think Fielder will end up signing for?
Efrim
January 3rd, 2012
4:05 pm
I’m not saying that is necessarily going to happen, just that the risk is certainly there.
Absolutely, however I’m not sure if Wren will make an “all-in” move within the next two seasons. I’ve said before, they have one of the most talented group of young players/prospects 25 years old or under – but it’s tough for any team to make that sort of strike.
Efrim
January 3rd, 2012
4:08 pm
So what do you guys think Fielder will end up signing for?
More than Tex, less than Pujols. Eight years, 208 million with an opt out clause after 3 years?
Don in TN
January 3rd, 2012
4:08 pm
DOB, you mentioned the Girl w/Dragon Tattoo, have you seen the original Swedish trilogy? Very Good. I hope they haven’t messed it up too bad in the American version.
Don in TN
January 3rd, 2012
4:09 pm
Musical Taste? Yes, there’s just no accounting for it. I hear some people don’t even like Hank Williams.
Efrim
January 3rd, 2012
4:10 pm
Why would the Yankees give Jackson a contract after seeing what happened with Burnett? If they end up signing him, then clearly, they refuse to not have one big ticket free agent signing every year. Soriano for damn near no reason last winter.
BravesFanSince1982
January 3rd, 2012
4:11 pm
“Could anyone write a better script for a lowsy sports town???
The Hawks will be rolling over in a few months. Stay tuned.”
And don’t forget the Falcons who are about to be “one and done” in the NFL playoffs.
Bat Masterson
January 3rd, 2012
4:12 pm
26mm per, eh. I wonder if they could include a weight claus in that contract?
bobby
January 3rd, 2012
4:13 pm
What the Braves should do is make a call to CWS see if they are willing to pay off some one Alex Rios contract and make a deal for him say like Hoover Asencio and Harrilack for Rios and have the White Soxs take a bite out of his big contract.
Sam from the Swats
January 3rd, 2012
4:14 pm
Trade Chipper..that is all.
ncscoots
January 3rd, 2012
4:14 pm
Idi Amin would eat the players
Just another guy who was the victim of bad PR.
Jeff R
January 3rd, 2012
4:16 pm
So, I wonder if the Rockies will buckle and give Wren what he wants in exchange for Prado – Seth Smith and Wheeler? I can’t see Wren buckling, however. Seth Smith (or Smith and a lesser prospect) doesn’t seem enough for Martin.
And there’s still no good answer who Wren would line up to replace Chipper, if needed. The Braves, presumably, would improve in left field with Smith. Yet, if Chipper is sidelined, the team loses a solid bat with no good prospect to replace him. Perhaps not exactly a trade off (gain Smith in left, lose Chipper at third), but worth gaming.
Efrim
January 3rd, 2012
4:17 pm
What the Braves should do is make a call to CWS see if they are willing to pay off some one Alex Rios contract
That’s some contract they’d have to eat. I fear Rios is cooked.
ajcfan1
January 3rd, 2012
4:21 pm
Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!
Matt
January 3rd, 2012
4:21 pm
I watch some Orioles games up here and Adam Jones is a good player still developing. I think the O’s value him a little too high, but he still does have the potential to be a 20/20 guy and pretty easily. He needs to gain some better plate discipline and cut down on a few strikeouts, but I think he will. He’s still only 26. Also his defense is plenty adequate enough for a corner outfield spot where he’d play in Atlanta.
ncscoots
January 3rd, 2012
4:23 pm
The Nats could sign Fielder and I’d still think our Braves were beating them out in 2012. Marlins too. It’s the following years that scare me.
I dunno. 2013 gets the team some financial flexibility and they could certainly get an impact bat to replace Chipper, should he retire. If you make the assumption that the young players on all three teams continue to grow, then how do the trailers become the leaders? By signing Jayson Werth and Jose Reyes, LOL? Huh-uh.
Now, the likes of Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, and all the other other under-25 talent on the Braves might all go belly-up while the comparable players on the Nats and Marlins become perennial All-Stars. In that case, the 2013-and-forward Braves could be in trouble. Sure. You bet.
P'cola Brave
January 3rd, 2012
4:26 pm
Seth Smith is a scary acquisition. I’m not against a platoon but the platoon needs to be better than whats there. Smith smokes RHP but struggles away from Coors except in 2011. Not that I don’t think he could get acclimated to Turner but his numbers definitely wouldn’t be the same. Encouraging to see that he did have success away from Coors but is still only one year. I worry more about Diaz in that platoon. He still had a good average against LHP this year but the power was non existent. 8 XBH all year long is terrible,
Bay Area Steve
January 3rd, 2012
4:27 pm
scoots,
I’m gonna go with your Tigers, ’cause of you and Wayne. But, I’m not sure you want my quasi-support. I swear if another team shuts it down thinking college field goals are automatic, I’m gonna… Well, I’m gonna… OK, I’m not going to do anything, but tell your boys that touchdowns work too, would ya?
Sopheee
January 3rd, 2012
4:28 pm
Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!
Everyone meet my new BFF.
Bay Area Steve
January 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
“make a call to CWS see if they are willing to pay off some one Alex Rios contract”
I keep reading this as CVS. The asininity (is this a word? asinineness?) of the White Sox to take that on. Between that, and the horror that is my local CVS, there’s gotta be a joke here. Man, I miss bubdylan. Tater, what you got?
David O'Brien
January 3rd, 2012
4:32 pm
Did Q&A w/ Dale Murphy, which I’ll post in a day or two. The classy Braves icon discussed the Hall of Fame, his low vote totals, etc. Plus his Wilco/alt-rock fandom. I’ll post it Wednesday or Thursday.
Mike Berry
January 3rd, 2012
4:33 pm
Friend of mine over in Baltimore tell me that the Orioles just signed ourfielder Jai Miller from the A’s. He says that the press is reporting that this likely means that Adam Jones and Josh Bell (3B) are likely leaving Baltimore for both Jurrjens and Prado.
ncscoots
January 3rd, 2012
4:33 pm
OK, I’m not going to do anything, but tell your boys that touchdowns work too, would ya?
Fleet feet at the skills, my man. Tigers don’t kick no steenkeng field goals, LOL
Healthy and happy, they are. Ellington running on two good legs makes all the difference for those guys, ’cause it gets Sammy and Nuke some mano-a-mano sometime during the game. And that goes under the heading of “not fair”.
But the truth is, I don’t really care that much about the outcome. Oh, I want a win, but I’ll still party afterwards, regardless.
Jay Dubu
January 3rd, 2012
4:36 pm
Wait Nate McLouth have one of his typical Pittsburg seasons.
Some players are not built to play when you’re expected to win.
Wow
January 3rd, 2012
4:41 pm
“There are many more question marks on the two teams that so many posters here are ready to anoint than are on the Braves. ”
Heyward, Hanson, Jurrjens, Hudson, Pastornicky/SS, Prado/LF, Chipper, the young pitchers. I know the homers don’t like to admit it, but the Braves probably have more question marks than anyone in the division.
David O'Brien
January 3rd, 2012
4:41 pm
Musical Taste? Yes, there’s just no accounting for it. I hear some people don’t even like Hank Williams. — Don in TN
Exactly. One of the greatest songwriters to walk the planet and the most influential country artist of all time. But you’ll find plenty, especially those under 50 or so, who’d insist that Kenny Chesney is better than Hank.
old timer
January 3rd, 2012
4:42 pm
I’m just really tired about the Braves liking a player because of his salary and his arbitration status. If you can’t afford to play in a market this big, sell the dang team already. Also, a salary cap would be a good idea.
P'cola Brave
January 3rd, 2012
4:42 pm
Lets say the Braves acquire Jones which i think is a real long shot. Neither seem to want to give what the other wants and Hanson makes more sense than JJ for the Orioles. I would then sign Betemit to serve as my back up at 3B and around infield.
Hillbilly
January 3rd, 2012
4:44 pm
BAS, be sure to pull for my Hogs in the Sugar Bowl tonight, too.
Oh wait, never mind. We got stuck in the ####### COTTON BOWL! What the hell?
David O'Brien
January 3rd, 2012
4:44 pm
DOB, you mentioned the Girl w/Dragon Tattoo, have you seen the original Swedish trilogy? Very Good. I hope they haven’t messed it up too bad in the American version. — Don in TN
Saw the first two Swedish films in the theatre. Then bought the entire trilogy on DVD in the uncut versions, which are each about 3 hours long. Let me tell you, as great as those first two were in the theatre, they are even better in the longer versions. So much great stuff was cut for the theatrical versions. And even the third one, which I’d heard wasn’t nearly as good as the first two, is actually damn good, at least in the extended version I saw on DVDs I bought. We just watched all three of them during the last week or 10 days.
Plus, there’s another 2-hour disc of outtakes, bonus scenes and a documentary. Haven’t watched that yet.
Mike Berry
January 3rd, 2012
4:44 pm
Friend of mine over in Baltimore tell me that the Orioles just signed ourfielder Jai Miller from the A’s. He says that the press is reporting that this likely means that Adam Jones and Josh Bell (3B) are likely leaving Baltimore for both Jurrjens and Prado. Says the story is gaining legs around Baltimore.
TennesseePaul
January 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
Love that Santogold album; it was on my list in 2009. Don’t have the other two you mentioned, nor have I heard them.
Excellent. I sampled some of Santogold and liked what I heard. Glad to hear it was also a top 50. Mikal Cronin got good reviews from other places. The friend who recommended it has solid taste if not more obscure than I’m used to. Aleo Blacc, from what I’ve sampled, is soul. Sounded real interesting. I’ll let you know when I hear it.
ncscoots
January 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
be sure to pull for my Hogs
I can envision a moment in my next couple of evenings where I might be enjoined to drop a big “Soooooo-ey!” in the middle of some otherwise polite conversation.
TennesseePaul
January 3rd, 2012
4:50 pm
And even the third one, which I’d heard wasn’t nearly as good as the first two, is actually damn good, at least in the extended version I saw on DVDs I bought.
I really enjoyed that one. Saw it in the theater. I loved all three of those films. Glad you got to finally see #3.
I went to see the new release. It was good, but I think the conclusion in the original is more true to the book from what I understand (never read the books) and the new one seemed to get … well I’ll let you see. It’s good, but the original I liked better. Of course, if Hollywood makes all 3 the score could change between them. It’s pretty close now as it is.
I’ll have to get that trilogy box set. That sounds pretty cool.
Braves Fan in N.Y.
January 3rd, 2012
4:50 pm
Keep hearing Adam Jones isn’t good defensively. He won a Gold Glove in 2009, right?
How bad can he be?
David O'Brien
January 3rd, 2012
4:51 pm
Trade Chipper..that is all. — Sam from the Swats
As a 10/5 player (10 yrs in bigs, 5 with current team) he has full trade veto powers. He’s not going anywhere.
That is all.
Bay Area Steve
January 3rd, 2012
4:51 pm
Will do, hillbilly.
N8
January 3rd, 2012
4:52 pm
“Exactly. One of the greatest songwriters to walk the planet and the most influential country artist of all time. But you’ll find plenty, especially those under 50 or so, who’d insist that Kenny Chesney is better than Hank.”
You’re argument might have held more water and had more impact had you used Hank Jr as your example. But I find it really hard to believe that anybody out there thinks that Chesney is “better” than Hank Williams.
Or are you still having a hard time grasping the difference between somebody younger “liking” to listen to Chesney over Williams? Big difference.
Again it’s all relative to taste. I hated B&W movies when I was a kid. And would still prefer to watch a current movie with kickass special effects and good camera work.
But that doesn’t mean that I think the Transformer movies are “better” than the original Star Wars flicks.
Find me somebody that has actually tated that Kenny Chesney is better and more influential than Hank. Cuz I’m not buyin it.
Efrim
January 3rd, 2012
4:54 pm
In that case, the 2013-and-forward Braves could be in trouble. Sure. You bet.
By in trouble, I mean, them playing at or around our level…..which will make it harder to grab one of those wild card spots. Ahem, especially when the upper echelon of the crappy Central and West get to feed on terrible teams at the bottom of their divisions. I don’t believe the Marlins and Nats are posiitoned to be a 100 game winner every season, but they’ll both be a lot better over the next few years. There really isn’t any reason thjey shouldn’t be based on their additions and younger players coming up(moreso the Nats).
N8
January 3rd, 2012
4:54 pm
DOB, I get your point. But I think you’re being over the top with that statement.
BravePack
January 3rd, 2012
4:54 pm
DOB
You hearing anything about this Jones rumor and it supposedly heating up?
Efrim
January 3rd, 2012
4:56 pm
If you make the assumption that the young players on all three teams continue to grow, then how do the trailers become the leaders?
Well, if I had to choose one position player and one starting pitcher on one of the three teams going forward, neither would be on the Braves(Stanton/Strasburg). But I see your point. I do think you’re selling the Nationals short. I’ve certainly liked their draft strategy in recent years, far more than our Braves.
ncscoots
January 3rd, 2012
4:57 pm
By in trouble, I mean, them playing at or around our level…..which will make it harder to grab one of those wild card spots.
That hasn’t stopped the AL East from producing WC teams, though. Me, I have no problem with playing in a tough division; makes you swim or die.
N8
January 3rd, 2012
4:59 pm
DOB, Actually, I don’t think you’re overall statement is that over the top. I think the age you used is.
I’m 40, and there isn’t too many people I know my age, (even the non-musicians), who don’t appreciate what Hank has meant to country music. So in hindsight, had you said, people “under 30 or even 25″, it’s a little more believable.
I’m not a huge listening fan of Hank Sr. But am very familiar with his stuff and 100 percent agree with you. Single handed most influential country artist of all time.
Kenny Chesney is a baffoon. There’s a small amount of ability there. But better than Hank, he’s not.
Efrim
January 3rd, 2012
5:02 pm
That hasn’t stopped the AL East from producing WC teams, though
I think the level of crappy is higher in the National League basement and the AL East has the 3 of the top 5 orgs the last 5 seasons, more or less.
Efrim
January 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
Me, I have no problem with playing in a tough division; makes you swim or die.
A lot less drowning in the NL Central and NL West.
Michael C.
January 3rd, 2012
5:05 pm
Josh Bell? That’d be pretty funny, as we was traded by the Dodgers for none other than George Sherrill. Also, he is a career .200/.221/.264 hitter in 220 MLB ABs.
Ray
January 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
Efrim,, yeah I saw about 10 days ago e jax was going to ask for a min of 4-5 yrs at at least 60m. Not worth it. Not even to the yanks for that.
Wow
January 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
.285/.329/.476 20 HR 87 RBI 47 Doubles
That’s Jeff Francoeur. I’m not at all saying that the Braves should go after him, I just find it funny that had the Braves not had any sort of connection to Francoeur, he would be the main person the Braves would be after. Probably would’ve traded Prado and/or Jurrjens for him.
He’s exactly the type of player the Braves like to go after. Cheap, fluky year which the Braves would spin into him turning the corner. Along with touting his past success. (and by success, I mean his RBI numbers)
Efrim
January 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
Josh Bell doesn’t look like much more than a bench bat.
abwright
January 3rd, 2012
5:08 pm
Some thoughts on Strasburg and Stanton and all the other young players in the NL East…
They’re good players, but their early success is likely to be moderated as the league figures them out. Or, knock on wood, they pick up an injury like Heyward did last year.
An inmate at a correctional facility
January 3rd, 2012
5:12 pm
Seth Smith is not the answer. I’d give up both Jurrjens and Prado for Adam Jones. Dude has speed, power from the right side of the plate, youth and can play left field very well.
Many of you are looking for a “steal of a deal”, looking to give away our garbage for another team’s gold. However, reality says that in order to get something of value…you have to be willing to give up something of value.
The fact is that both Jurrjens and Prado are coming off injury riddled seasons. Both are question marks health wise. Jones is a streaky player. Many on here, being Braves fans, are placing high value on Jurrjens and Prado based on seeing them at their best….yet selling Adam Jones short because on what his perceived short comings are.
Well, the news flash here is that Orioles fans are doing the same when it comes to how they value Jones at his best…and evaluating Jurrjens and Prado at their worst (injury prone).
Ray
January 3rd, 2012
5:13 pm
Josh Bell is not much more than a bat off the bench. The O’s list of valuable prospects are low.
John Pappadoppagapoulas
January 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm
“Talkin Baseball” I’d pay good money to be sitting at a little league game right now eating a hot dog and washing it down with a Coke.
How long till pitchers and catchers report anyway?
cosmo
January 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm
Girl with the Dragon Tatoo – USA version is very good – the intro rocks with the Immigrant Song cover-
Tom Waits – he has a following – when I saw him in Asheville a few years back half the audience stood the whole time- definitely not everyone’s cup of tea- some of his earlier vocals had a Louie Armstrong sound
Maybe Ted can trade Liberty some land for the Braves… The Phils spend about 6.8 mil per roster guy and the Braves 3.6 mil – that is tough to overcome- but you never know
Wow
January 3rd, 2012
5:18 pm
Well, Adam Jones can’t be that bad, considering the Braves are interested in him.
Whatever happened to trusting in Wren, kool-aid drinkers?
David O'Brien
January 3rd, 2012
5:24 pm
Do you guys realize — I know I didn’t until I just looked it up — that Adam Jones is only 11 months younger than Matt Kemp?
Matt Kemp has 128 homers, 140 stolen bases, a .294 career average, .350 OBP, .846 OPS, 464 runs and 457 RBIs in 787 major league games.
Adam Jones has 75 homers, 44 stolen bases, a .275 career average, .319 OBP, .756 OPS, 310 runs and 291 RBIs in 625 major league games.
N8
January 3rd, 2012
5:25 pm
“The Phils spend about 6.8 mil per roster guy and the Braves 3.6 mil – that is tough to overcome- but you never know”
More money doesn’t mean better. Or would you prefer D-Lowe over Jurrjens or Hanson? Would you prefer Nate McLouth over Freddie Freeman? How about Linebrink over Kimbrel?
It’s not tough to overcome if you spend your money on the RIGHT guys. Not overpaying for the wrong guys.
Josh
January 3rd, 2012
5:25 pm
Dob, are you hearing anything about a trade in the works?
Bay Area Steve
January 3rd, 2012
5:26 pm
John Pappadoppagapoulas,
Me too, brother. Me, too.
By the by, are you that guy from Webster?
jb
January 3rd, 2012
5:27 pm
Just ask Greg Walker about Rios…
N8
January 3rd, 2012
5:27 pm
“Whatever happened to trusting in Wren, kool-aid drinkers?”
WTF is that supposed to mean?
He got rid of the weakest link in the rotation. He has YET to trade away any of our top prospects. He has addressed the CF problem for 2012 at least, by virtue of the deadline deal for Bourn last year.
I understand that idiots like you thought we’d be players for Pujols and Reyes. But has it ever crossed your mind that the best moves he’s made so far has been NOT making any moves?
nolie
January 3rd, 2012
5:30 pm
theeeey’rrre back.
Jbailz
January 3rd, 2012
5:31 pm
Kenny Chesney couldn’t put on Hank’s boots… Couldn’t even put on Jr.’s boots for that matter..
David O'Brien
January 3rd, 2012
5:33 pm
Coco Crisp gets two years and guaranteed $14 mill in deal to remain with A’s.
cosmo
January 3rd, 2012
5:33 pm
N8
You’re right but it’d be nice to throw some dough at some proven guys and lasso them in for 4-5 years .
Not to be negative but right now – I’d say with Hanson & JJ health concerns there is a decent chance Lowe may win more games then one of those guys – after Melky’s year last year at KC – McLouth may reappear from the Bermuda Triangle of the Braves outfield as his former self with good numbers- let’s hope Jason has a great year
Ray
January 3rd, 2012
5:33 pm
IF this was reported, I apologize for the repeat, On this day 1920 Yanks bought Babe Ruth and exactly 53 yrs later in 1973 G Steinbrenner bought yanks from CBS. Probably two of the biggest days in the history of the yanks.
keylargo
January 3rd, 2012
5:34 pm
Peter Frampton’s 1954 Gibson Guitar was lost over 30 years ago in a plane crash. It turned up in Curacao (Andruw’s country) and was returned to him. Here’s the story.
http://www.spinner.com/2012/01/03/peter-frampton-guitar
Jbailz
January 3rd, 2012
5:37 pm
DOB – Are you for or against a possible Jones acquisition? He’s no Matt Kemp, but how many Matt Kemp’s are really out there?
kenhotlanta
January 3rd, 2012
5:39 pm
BAS:
Isn’t bubdylan still here and using the name “Ward”?
nolie
January 3rd, 2012
5:41 pm
Jones doesn’t fix the CF problem going forward cause he is a poor CFer, even playing half his games in a small park like Camden. No way he is worth near what the Os were claimed to want
MiaBchBravesFan
January 3rd, 2012
5:41 pm
If Fidel Castro’s corpse were to own the Braves, he would want to be the closer, insisting to Roger that his curveball can still get people out – the same curveball that got him turned away during a Washington Senators’ tryout back in the early 50’s. Like Hitler’s art “career”, poor “Fido” could not stand rejection, so he decided to become a wealthy totalitarian, er, “socialist”.
Bat Masterson
January 3rd, 2012
5:43 pm
Find me somebody that has actually tated that Kenny Chesney is better and more influential than Hank. Cuz I’m not buyin it. _ N8
I have no idea who Kenny Chesney is. Am I missing anything?
I heard part of a song on New Years Eve, something about “Tequila makes her clothes fall off”
I was trying to decide who the guy sounded like, Randy Travis came to mind, but I don’t know, maybe just generic country male voice………… anyway I didn’t listen to the whole song. Maybe it was Kenny
Bat Masterson
January 3rd, 2012
5:43 pm
McFanned it …………… Kenny’s fault
Matt
January 3rd, 2012
5:44 pm
Enter your comments here
Bay Area Steve
January 3rd, 2012
5:46 pm
No, Ken, as much as I wish it were. The character’d be a whole heck of a lot funnier, for starters.
“Kenny’s fault”
Bat, not certain, but I think it’s still Keith Law.
Jbailz
January 3rd, 2012
5:47 pm
Bat – That wasn’t Kenny Chesney, that was Joe Nichols.
Shawn
January 3rd, 2012
5:49 pm
Jon Morosi feels pretty certain Prado is the one traded and thinks strongly that a Prado for Smith trade is happening sooner or later. Braves cannot have a guy making Prado’s salary be the utility player on their team. Smith makes a little less. Talk about penny pinchers. My goodness.
Shawn
January 3rd, 2012
5:53 pm
And nobody is even coming close to offering the Braves what they think Jurrjens is worth. That’s from a pretty reliable source. Not a chance he gets traded unless they come down significantly on their asking price.
N8
January 3rd, 2012
5:54 pm
“I’d say with Hanson & JJ health concerns there is a decent chance Lowe may win more games then one of those guys “
Sure. And Scott Proctor was more productive than Kawakami was for the big club last year. Being available is half the battle. I can’t argue that Lowe has more wins than those two guys.
But if Beachy, Minor, and anybody else on the Braves staff makes the same amount of starts as Lowe does, it’s likely they’ll lead the team to more victories than Lowe would have or will with Cleveland. Especially when you consider bang for your buck.
I’ve very much of the opinion that spending 10 million dollars to make Lowe go away is a more sound investment than allowing him to pitch every 5th day for only 5 million more.
Classic case of addition by subtraction. Efrim (or somebody) made a sarcastic comment about Beachy and Minor and the kids “walking on water”.
Not the case at all. But D-Lowe last year was knee deep in quicksand and that’s worse than not being able to walk on water.
nolie
January 3rd, 2012
5:57 pm
some of y’all take all the speculation way too seriously…..
N8
January 3rd, 2012
5:59 pm
“I have no idea who Kenny Chesney is. Am I missing anything?”
No Bat you’re not. He’s a generic, nothing special about him, current country star who is popular. Dime a dozen.
But I’m not buying that people out there over the age of 40 are saying he’s better and more influential than Hank.
Just the same way as nobody over 40 would have ever said the Backstreet Boys are better than The Beatles.
If you want to argue that teenage girls or woman in their early to mid 20’s would be jaded enough by somebody they think is “hot” to say something like that? I’ll buy it.
But find me somebody nearing the age of 50 who would actually say that Kenny Chesney is “better” than Hank Sr, and you’ve likely found somebody with bigger mental issues than their musical tastes.
Russell Bell
January 3rd, 2012
5:59 pm
Coco Crisp gets two years and guaranteed $14 mill in deal to remain with A’s.
Lots of big money thrown around this offseason (Pujols, Reyes), but its the smaller deals like this one for Crisp that have me scratching my head. Mediocre hitter, with speed – $14 mill over 2 yrs, 3rd yr option. Seems like more of the same kind of crazy money spent on the non-elite 2B and SS that signed early in the offseason (Barmes, etc). And Cody Ross wants ~$10 mill over 2 yrs? Bad investment for that kind of money.
P'cola Brave
January 3rd, 2012
6:02 pm
I find it hard to think the Braves make a move for Seth Smith without having a back up in place. If JJ had been moved to the Reds I think it would have made it a larger possibility that Prado would have been dealt as I feel Frazier would have been apart of that deal. If the Braves sign someone like Wilson betemit then I would feel more inclined to believe Prado is on the move. Unless someone is brought in before hes dealt he won’t be traded.
Bat Masterson
January 3rd, 2012
6:02 pm
Okay BAS, IBKL
Bat – That wasn’t Kenny Chesney, that was Joe Nichols. _ Jbailz
Jbailz_
I googled him, looks like the guys has released 7 albums, and has a few “hits”, how about that.
The things I don’t know. It would be a long list. Thanks
nolie
January 3rd, 2012
6:09 pm
if Crisp is worth that, Cody is prolly worth what he wants, but I agree that a lot of mediocre players are getting better deals than you would think. Perhaps that extra wc spot is influencing teams in some way
kenhotlanta
January 3rd, 2012
6:10 pm
Most current country music fans have already discarded Jamey Johnson. That should tell you all you need to know about Kenny Chesney vs. Hank Sr.
Bat Masterson
January 3rd, 2012
6:12 pm
All right, I’m headed back to April 1963. Someone should block any calls Wren tries to make to Baltimore.
nolie
January 3rd, 2012
6:14 pm
april ‘63. good times. I was actually fairly young and carefree……
faninva
January 3rd, 2012
6:14 pm
Gosh, my heart goes out to the Porter family. Just terrible.
jmart1951
January 3rd, 2012
6:15 pm
It is becoming apparent that the Braves must have a solid deal going or otherwise they would have been in on Reed Johnson. He just signed with the Cubs for $1.15 million. He hit over .300 last year and and played all 3 outfield positions. He was on the market for 1 day.
If FW doesn’t have a pretty “sure thing” in the works it makes no sense that he wouldn’t have gone out and gotten Johnson. It would have improved the team and still left all the trading pieces in tact.
nolie
January 3rd, 2012
6:19 pm
pitched Reed last season at the deadline. Braves showed no interest then according to reports.
been a good while since Reed played every day and the Braves likely did not see him as a need .would have been more likely if they did not have Diaz in the fold already
nolie
January 3rd, 2012
6:20 pm
he also was known to prefer to stay in Chitown and perhaps signed for less than he would have elsewhere