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DS1
January 8th, 2012
4:20 pm
At least FW can use Liberty Media as the scape goat if any of his deals go bad.
“It’s because we don’t have involved, local ownership, dammit!”
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
January 8th, 2012
4:20 pm
Another Atlanta pro sports team choking in the playoffs……..what else is new?
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:21 pm
Let’s just fast forward to Saturday
DS1
January 8th, 2012
4:21 pm
Bat
Yeah, JtheG sure shyt in his mess kit!
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
January 8th, 2012
4:23 pm
@Soph
I Feel Ur Pain Worse, 5 Weeks Til pitchers and catchers report
The Falcons Lost The Game When They Didn’t Score after getting the Safety!
Add To The Mike Bobo/Mularkey Dumb Arse Playcalling!
I’m Sooo Mad Right Now…I Just ate two Pizzas! And I’m Still Fuming!
I need some Pantera and Crowbar
Jake W.
January 8th, 2012
4:23 pm
Let’s just fast forward to Saturday
With the Falcons doing their thing(again), the best I can hope for is another West Coast meltdown for the Saints. I’m pulling for the niners as I do appreciate defense and I would also appreciate greatly the Saints losing.
DS1
January 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
cab
Looking forward to it!!!
jeffrey
I am willing to forgive you of having to use doo doo in your moniker for the next year. You’re a good egg, and I can’t see the benefit in being punished for a small indiscretion.
Blog
Can we get a Yes/No vote on whether we are going to hold jeffrey to the doo doo for 2012?
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
January 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
Coach (2012 Fredi’s beisbol fandango)
“Another Atlanta pro sports team choking in the playoffs……..what else is new?”
Yep It was Like wayching a Braves Playoff Game!
interested bystanderss
January 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
This is embarrassing on national tv
VaBravesFan
January 8th, 2012
4:25 pm
Efrim
Shouldnt that make us a little concerned about are prospects?
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:27 pm
Before y’all get too panicky about Salcedo, keep in mind he’s only 20 (turned 20 on July 30th)…Still has a few years of development left
DS1
January 8th, 2012
4:29 pm
auto scroll engaged……….
DS1
January 8th, 2012
4:32 pm
Tee-Bow time!
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:34 pm
Jim Schwartz with the quote of the weekend talking about the Lions loss: “This game was about missed opportunities on defense.”
No, Jim, it was about your defense and it’s inability to tackle, get pressure on the quarterback, stop the run, or prevent the Saints from running up 626 yards of total offense. That’s a bit more than “missed opportunities”
Bat Masterson
January 8th, 2012
4:34 pm
Wow, 78 pages and counting on Bradley’s Falcons game blog.
I scanned a few, but man, who needs all that craziness.
Jake W.
January 8th, 2012
4:36 pm
One World Championship (1995 Braves World Series Championship) to show for all those seasons of play….with no realistic hope of any Atlanta sports team willing one in the near future.
Ironically enough I think the Braves are Atlanta’s best chance at winning a championship. Our pitching is solid, if not for a complete offensive letdown last year we would have been in the dance. Seemingly all of our biggest bats (and the lesser ones) gave us less than average production. As fans I think we hope for better than average performances and settle for average but I don’t think any of us imagine subpar years for the majority of the lineup. Prado, McCann, Heyward, Uggla, and Gonzalez. That was most of the team. If we just get average performances we could be a very dangerous team given our pitching. We won’t be ranked as the favorites to win it all, but how many favorites actually win it all? Besides being a favorite might as well be a death nail for an Atlanta team. Barring major injuries I think the braves are in good shape for the most part.
Efrim
January 8th, 2012
4:37 pm
Efrim
Shouldnt that make us a little concerned about are prospects?
Hell yes….haha.
Bat Masterson
January 8th, 2012
4:37 pm
Maybe he meant a missed opportunity to play defense.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:38 pm
Bat-
Jake W.
January 8th, 2012
4:38 pm
Wow, 78 pages and counting on Bradley’s Falcons game blog.
I scanned a few, but man, who needs all that craziness.
It’s why I come hear to talk Falcons football. It may get on some peoples nerves but it saves me from the craziness that is the Falcons blogs.
DS1
January 8th, 2012
4:41 pm
Jake
When we’re done talking about the Falcons, can we talk about my Utah Jazz?
An inmate at a correctional facility
January 8th, 2012
4:41 pm
Bad moves Frank Wren has made:
1. Signing Derek Lowe to a 4 year, $60 mil contract.
2. Signing Kawacrappy to a 3 year/ $23 mil contract.
3. Trading for McLousy and paying him $15 mil over 3 years (buyout included)
4. Re-signing Chipper to a 3 year/$42 mil contract.
That’s $140 mil over 4 years (2012 included) that could have been better spend in other areas that would have given us a much better chance of seriously competing for a World Series championship.
Not only do we need new ownership…we need a new GM…and John S. and company need to go as well. Hopefully after we collapse in 2012….change will come.
Efrim
January 8th, 2012
4:42 pm
I mean, they have three really good pitching prospects, a polished LH starter who has a #3/4 ceiling, a high floor SS in Pastornicky and then some upside guys in Simmons, Bethancourt and Salcedo. After that it’s a mixed bag of meh.
nolie
January 8th, 2012
4:42 pm
Angels may settle for Martinez or Varvaro from Braves for Izturis
I could deal with that
Jake W.
January 8th, 2012
4:43 pm
DS1
I’m all for it, not enough people on the blog appreciate the NBA, in fact I think most can’t stand it.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
January 8th, 2012
4:43 pm
Ok…People…
I’m Mellow Now After That Playoff Farce..What Is The Braves Rotation…?
I’m going out on A Limb But I like BB (Brandon Beachy) As the #2 or 3 starter…His Mound Makeup and Composure Reminds me of a Young Kevin Millwood…
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:43 pm
I used to love the NBA
Bat Masterson
January 8th, 2012
4:45 pm
Yeah Jake, I don’t think it bothers anyone if we talk football here. You make valid points about the defense and the linebackers. I like VanGorder, and loved him when he was with the Dawgs, I’m just beyond frustrated with the third and long failings.
I still remember the final nail in the coffin in the playoff game with the Cardinals, four years ago, was the Cards converting on 3rd and nineteen.
DS1
January 8th, 2012
4:45 pm
Efrim
Whaddya think of Terdoslavich? He strikes me as a very confident kid. Not really a Pete Rose type player, but with that sort of drive. Talks about how being a major leaguer is all he and his dad have ever dreamed about.
Of course he’s our prospect, so I love him for that. But I think we’ll see how he does in AA next year.
Sopheee
January 8th, 2012
4:45 pm
doo doo, we’ll reduce your sentence to 24 hours. I admire your optimism and we all like you.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
January 8th, 2012
4:46 pm
@Jake W.
“It’s why I come hear to talk Falcons football. It may get on some peoples nerves but it saves me from the craziness that is the Falcons blogs.”
Yeah, Those Blogs are off the Chain! I was on it for 2 hours and it got too crazy for me…
Sopheee
January 8th, 2012
4:46 pm
I’m not a Van Gorder fan and am continually hoping and wishing that UGA will take him back.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:47 pm
Where’s Efrim? I don’t know enough falcons to take part in the current football discussion…
Sopheee
January 8th, 2012
4:47 pm
So, anyone think the Tebows will win today? You never know.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:48 pm
Sophee-
No.
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
January 8th, 2012
4:48 pm
They just extended Morales and it looks like they want to do the same with Aybar. Izturis is expendable. Obvious the only hole they have on that solid team is some pen help.
nolie
January 8th, 2012
4:49 pm
It may get on some peoples nerves but it saves me from the craziness that is the Falcons blogs…Jake
sure, better their nerves than yours, right???
VaBravesFan
January 8th, 2012
4:49 pm
depending on how confident the Braves are on our secondary bullpen guys, Venters could prolly bring a ton in return.
DS1
January 8th, 2012
4:49 pm
Jake/cab
I can understand why a lot of folks don’t care for the NBA. And I don’t have issues with that. Kinda like how I could care less about hockey and soccer. Just my preferences.
But I was big on the NBA when I was a kid, and I’ve pulled for the Warriors (Run DMC) in the 80’s, the Rockets (Hakeem the Dream) in the 90’s and now the Jazz (J-Slow still rocks) in the 00’s. Just being this close to a decent team helps. And there are no real pre-madonna’s on our team which helps.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:50 pm
VaBravesFan-
Except there is no way the Braves are going to trade Jonny
An inmate at a correctional facility
January 8th, 2012
4:50 pm
Jake W……our so called pitching strength is a pipe dream.
1. Hudson’s back injury makes him far from a sure thing.
2. Jurrjens’ knee…same thing.
3. Hanson’s shoulder…same thing as well.
4. Beachy…..coming off injury in 2011.
5. Minor and Teheran…both very hittable pitchers who have yet to prove they can consistently get out ML hitters.
7. Medlen…..while I’m actually high on Medlen, he is coming off an elbow injury that required him missing most of 2011.
One other thing to factor in. It is assuming a lot that the trio of Kimbrel, Venters and EOF will be as dominant as they were the first 5 months of 2011. Relievers who are overused one year…have been known to struggle the following year. If many on here are going to assume that Prado and Heyward are going to rebound in 2012…then you should also assume the possibility that Kimbrel, Venters and EOF wont be as effective in 2012.
Our pitching is a huge question mark. Injuries, age, inexperience are all issues that could blow up our season.
Efrim
January 8th, 2012
4:51 pm
DS1, there is more than “meh”, I guess. Terdoslavich, Ahmed, Drury, Lipka, Milligan, La Stella, C. Perez, and tons of kids that could project as relievers in Graham, Martin, Lamm, Moore. They are just all out of the top 8 I listed above. I’m hoping for a real good draft in 2012.
But to answer your question, there is still A LOT of questions around Joey T.
Jake W.
January 8th, 2012
4:51 pm
I’m just beyond frustrated with the third and long failings.
Unfortunately I think the 3rd and longs play into our big weakness. Other teams know since they are likely passing on 3rd and long to bring extra protection and if we can’t create pressure it all falls on the secondary which is the major weakness on the defense.
Oh and the Arz game I remember fondly as the last game with Keith Brooking, now he underachieves in Dallas.
Bat Masterson
January 8th, 2012
4:51 pm
Soph_
I think Ga is happy with Todd Grantham
Sopheee
January 8th, 2012
4:52 pm
I like the NBA. The Hawks make me just as miserable as the Falcons a lot of times but they’ve strung together some decent seasons the last 5 years.
I enjoy college hoops more though – nothing like March Madness, brackets, and upsets. I love it.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:52 pm
DS1-
I grew up a die hard Lakers fan, watching Magic, Kareem, James Worthy and the like play beautiful basketball. I was devastated the day Magic announced he was retiring. Was also a huge Sac Kings fan for a while. But the game has become something unwatchable to me these days. I’d rather watch college basketball or just about any other pro sport.
Jake W.
January 8th, 2012
4:54 pm
sure, better their nerves than yours, right???
Exactly
Seriously though, the crazy on the Falcons blogs is 100 times what you get here.
Efrim
January 8th, 2012
4:54 pm
I’m here, cab. Saturday can’t come soon enough. Special teams. Will. Be. Huge.
DS1
January 8th, 2012
4:55 pm
Have never watched Tebow play before (maybe saw him in college once or twice). Don’t really have a horse in the race, but I pull for Tebow because so many people don’t. Just going for the underdog.
And I like a person that takes a stand. (now, if he could just throw better……… I’ve heard that’s his Achilles heel?)
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:55 pm
Efrim-
Is it wrong that I kinda hope there is a borderline monsoon on Saturday? Any advantage we can get, right?
(Lucky for us, the Niners have probably the best special teams in the league.
)
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:57 pm
Gotta admit that I am kind of excited that Barry Sanders’ kid committed to Stanford. Should be fun to watch, if he’s even 1/3 of the player his daddy was…
DS1
January 8th, 2012
4:57 pm
cab
I think a person has to be emotionally involved with an NBA team to enjoy the game. I really can’t stand to watch a game unless my team is playing.
Jake W.
January 8th, 2012
4:57 pm
Was also a huge Sac Kings fan for a while.
Those series in the early 2000’s that they had with the Lakers got me hooked. I had interest before that but those were some classic series. Having the Hawks be somewhat competitive has definitely kept my interest.
Sopheee
January 8th, 2012
4:58 pm
Niners fans should start a Who Dat chant if they beat the crap out of the Saints. Hate that junk.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:59 pm
Jake-
Those series just about killed me. Still remember some of the horrible calls that went against the Kings in Game 6…not sure what year, but the play involved Doug Christie getting hit in the face with Kobe’s elbow and the ref calling a foul on Christie
Efrim
January 8th, 2012
4:59 pm
Heavy rain, cab. That’s what I’m hoping for. Even high winds.
VaBravesFan
January 8th, 2012
5:00 pm
I wouldnt want the Braves to trade Venters, just saying a team like the Angels who are going all in would prolly offer a great return that would be enough to consider.
Sopheee
January 8th, 2012
5:00 pm
I loved the Kings back then and it made me despise the Lakers. They had some fantastic playoff games. Kings fans had their hearts broken just like us so many years in a row.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:00 pm
Efrim-
Heavy rain, high winds, bog marsh muddy field. Make them run the ball.
Jake W.
January 8th, 2012
5:03 pm
cabravesfan
My biggest pet peeve about the NBA is the “superstar calls”. The way I see it is if they are that great they don’t need the help. The inequity in officiating is definitely my biggest frustration with the league. Derrick Rose can get tapped and draw a foul, Teague can be thrown out of bounds and nothing.
Efrim
January 8th, 2012
5:04 pm
Yup, lots of Gore. Love what I’ve seen from Kendall Hunter this year. First four picks: Aldon Smith, Colin Kaepernick, Chris Culliver and Kendall Hunter. Hit it big on all of them, although obviously Colin is an unknown entity – but I’ve heard great things.
DS1
January 8th, 2012
5:04 pm
That original Arco Areno that was built as a temp home for the Kings, was a wild and extremely LOUD place. I think it only held about 10K folks, but the flooring was wooden and the fans would stomp like there’s no tomorrow!
Only went to a few games there though……..
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
January 8th, 2012
5:06 pm
Enter Comments Here…
nolie
January 8th, 2012
5:08 pm
I think much of the craziness here comes from fans who are more ijnto football than really into baseball as a sport
Jake W.
January 8th, 2012
5:08 pm
I loved the Kings back then and it made me despise the Lakers. They had some fantastic playoff games. Kings fans had their hearts broken just like us so many years in a row.
The East was horrible back then too. You just knew if the Kings got by the Lakers they would win it all. Just a shame for those fans because that was a great team. Tough to fall just short so many times.
DS1
January 8th, 2012
5:09 pm
This was one of my favorite plays in NBA history. Kobe had been elbowing Raja the whole series, and he’d had enough of it.
Raja can score 0 points per game all year, and he can STILL be the starting “2″ on my team ALL year because of this play!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V8ZukXsWmk
ChattTownBrian (CTB)
January 8th, 2012
5:09 pm
I’m pretty sure it’s spelled doo-doo, DOB. I could be wrong though. Why? Writing a new blog on the Braves’ offseason so far?
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:11 pm
DS1-
Went to plenty of games at Arco- the wood floors were awesome. Place was the loudest arena I have ever been in, especially during a play off game against the Lakers…
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:13 pm
Efrim-
It’s sort of amazing that once The Owner and Her Husband turned day to day control of the Niners over to Jed, the team began a steady improvement, from personal decisions to management decisions to play on the field. Jed is his uncle all over again. Thank God for that.
Jake W.
January 8th, 2012
5:13 pm
I think much of the craziness here comes from fans who are more ijnto football than really into baseball as a sport
I definitely agree with this. The NFL and MLB couldn’t be further apart in terms of sports. One loss can kill you in football, in baseball you just have 162 games. Series in the playoffs instead of one and done. The patience required to be a baseball fan is just not there.
Lots of Steeler fans in Denver. A lot of Yellow Towels.
nolie
January 8th, 2012
5:14 pm
i guess if you mean a person always on the go and getting things done you could spell it do do, but iffen you mean someone full of it like Jeffrey is you should probably use doodoo
David O'Brien
January 8th, 2012
5:15 pm
ChattTownBrian: I guess you entirely missed the point, the sarcasm, related to the italicized comment I referenced. Understandable that you would (but not really).
Oh, and does this mean you’re 8?
DS1
January 8th, 2012
5:17 pm
C’mon jeffrey. Come on back. We love ya here!
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:18 pm
Football is, by it’s very nature, a violent sport and it elicits a more volatile response from fans. I tend to get screechy and ranty and drop curse words that I didn’t even know I could string together when I am watching football. Baseball is a much more congenial sport, and the fan base, while as passionate as any about their team, responds in a similar manner.
DS1
January 8th, 2012
5:19 pm
Jake/nolie
Don’t know why I never made the connection between short termed fans on the blog having more of a football mentality. Makes a lot of sense.
Disgusted
January 8th, 2012
5:19 pm
We are never going to have a real winner in this city. Even the beloved Dawgs are at the pretty good but not elite category.
The 1990’s Braves are the only pro team that has ever given us anything elite to cheer about. I know, only one WS championship but the did get to 5 WS and that should count for more than given credit for.
The Dawgs have not been a real elite program since the early 80’s when you really think about. Pretty good at times, but not a serious BCS champ contender like Alabama, LSU, and Florida has been. Even Auburn and Tennessee has given their fans more than the Dawgs give us.
We are all in a cursed state and it cannot work for us.
You want to move away from Mike Smith and Matt Ryan? Well, remember the Leeman Bennett firing and look what we got after that.
The Hawks have the monopoly on being fairly good (except for the time between 2000 and 2007. They can be fun to watch but do not expect too much.
And my Thrashers, I miss em but you know the story.
We are cursed and its never gonna work for us not for a billion yrs. As sports fans this state is the Hades of being a sports fan and it cannot ever be done.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:20 pm
Sorry, that’s not a catch
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
January 8th, 2012
5:20 pm
D.O.B.
One More Month Until The Crazyness of S. Training…
Do You know if any of players are gonna head down there early…?
Especially Since the 680AMThe Fan Crew will be on it Early since there is No More Falcons Football (Tear!)
DS1
January 8th, 2012
5:21 pm
thanks to the blog person who removed Dense’s 4:28pm post.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
January 8th, 2012
5:22 pm
Watching The Games With a SEC Football/old WCW Rasslin Mentality is the way Us SEC Fans In Jaw-Juh Do It!
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:23 pm
These announcers are really bad. The Steelers did NOT challenge if it was a fumble- they challenged if it was complete. Which it WAS NOT! Even if the ball is allowed to move, IT CAN’T BE DROPPED!
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:24 pm
The Steelers should not have even had to challenge that play.
DS1
January 8th, 2012
5:24 pm
Good call.
nolie
January 8th, 2012
5:25 pm
Jayson Stark
But just in case you’re one of the millions of Americans who forgot to purchase that distinctive work of American literature, I can pass along a few highlights:
• Larkin won nine Silver Sluggers. You know how many infielders have won more in the history of the award? Exactly one: Alex Rodriguez (who won 10).
• Larkin also made 12 All-Star teams. Want to guess how many shortstops in history ever made more than 12? That would be two luminaries named Calvin Ripken Jr. and Ozzie Smith.
• And the accolades didn’t stop there. Larkin won an MVP award, three Gold Gloves in a row (while Ozzie was still active) and both major off-the-field awards that honor character and contributions to the planet beyond the ballpark — the Roberto Clemente and Lou Gehrig awards.
• This man also brought a unique power/speed package to his position. His .815 OPS ranks sixth among all shortstops in the live-ball era who got at least 5,000 plate appearances. He was a 30-30 Club member who was also the answer to the trivia question, “Name the only shortstop to steal 50 bases in any season in the ’90s.” And his 83.1 percent stolen-base success rate ranks fifth among all modern members of the 200 SB Club.
• But it’s when you start comparing Larkin to his peers that you truly begin to comprehend why they’re about to start chiseling his plaque. That .815 career OPS was 137 points higher than the average shortstop of his era (.678). His .444 career slugging percentage was 83 points higher. His .371 OBP was 54 points higher. And his .295 lifetime average was 39 points higher. In other words, even factoring in his (gulp) 14 trips to the disabled list, Larkin towered above his fellow shortstops in a way no NL shortstop has since the days of Arky Vaughan, back in the 1930s and ’40s
So there’s an expression we use to describe players like that, ladies and gentlemen. And it goes like this:
Hall of Famer.
Tomahawkin (The Godfather)
January 8th, 2012
5:25 pm
PL, Got Bozo’d Again…? lol…
I tried to talk some sense into him on how to have Civil blog discussions …I was his last defense, I gave up a week ago, lol
I tried atleast….
DS1
January 8th, 2012
5:26 pm
Tee Bow! Tee Bow! Tee Bow!
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:26 pm
This may get overturned too
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:27 pm
Guess not
Disgusted
January 8th, 2012
5:30 pm
I see the Angels have given a well deserved extension to Howie Kendrick. Good for him.
That is what teams who are trying to win do, and they stepped up and are trying to get better after two disappointing years.
Not a Halos fan but have to say good luck to them. I like teams that keep their pieces together and give it the good old try. I like it when guys who have been with an org get extensions from their team they put in their time with.
richbrave
January 8th, 2012
5:33 pm
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
4:27 pm
Before y’all get too panicky about Salcedo, keep in mind he’s only 20 (turned 20 on July 30th)…Still has a few years of development left
Yeah:
Not a teeny-bopper any more. Needs to start boppin’ baseballs for a change.
richbrave
January 8th, 2012
5:34 pm
DS1:
Where is the TEE BOWL located?
richbrave
January 8th, 2012
5:35 pm
Oh, I get it, a golf community. Funny DS1.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:37 pm
Are these announcers really CBS’s top team?
DS1
January 8th, 2012
5:41 pm
Kids throwing pretty good, it would appear. But it’s a long game.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:41 pm
Maybe the Steelers should give Ike Taylor some help…
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:41 pm
Or perhaps a seat on the bench…
N8
January 8th, 2012
5:41 pm
Hate to say it Falcons fans, but nothing made more happy as a Chiefs fan than watching Tony Gonzalez mope off the field after that crushing loss.
Chiefs would have won the AFC West with Gonzalez on their team. And would be playing at home right now against a beat up Steelers team. But he didn’t have “time” to wait for a rebuild.
Hope the dude never wins a playoff game. Am I bitter? You’re damn right I am. Good riddance. Go to the HOF as a Falcon as far as I’m concerned.
cabravesfan
January 8th, 2012
5:42 pm
DS1-
Steelers are stacking the box- forcing the Broncos to throw- will be interesting to see if Denver can keep throwing successfully.
N8
January 8th, 2012
5:43 pm
God I hate Tim Tebow.
Efrim
January 8th, 2012
5:43 pm
Upset brewing.