7:03 pm January 2, 2012, by David O'Brien
January 3rd, 201212:10 am
I believe September was a total fluke, so I guess I should be fired…
Sorry, I just get so frustrated by the constant negativity from people because we haven’t made a move just for the sake of making a move that at times I have to be anti-negative…
I don’t think just because the Braves miss the playoffs that Wren and/or Fredi should be gone. I think it all depends on the season. Take the September collapse out and most would consider an 89 win season a really good year. And lets not act like they aren’t adding to it just because they don’t want to. It takes two to make a trade and the FA class left a whole lot to be desired.
January 3rd, 201212:12 am
I suppose if Wren had no choice, he could do that. But we have plenty of time before the season starts, and I think Wren is a very good GM, so he’ll come up with a better option than that (I hope).
By the way, as long as there’s another, “Tom”, on here, you better address me as, “your almighty greatness”.
January 3rd, 201212:13 am
Or… just Tom O
January 3rd, 201212:14 am
What a horrendous kick…
January 3rd, 201212:15 am
ccrider, the answer is no, we shouldn’t trade prado. And we should at least try to extend Bourne.
Free agent market for outfielders is not thin next year. But, if we have to buy two players, that could be a problem.
Adam Jones may be overrated but hell every team does that with their own players. Just like we overvalue JJ and Prado. P’
I try hard not to overrate any of our players. I
am not a fan of Jones. His defense has gone tdownhill and he woulf most likely lose slugging % in the Ted. They want more than Jj and i wouldn’t do it even myself
And, somewhere, Mark Richt feels slightly better…
January 3rd, 201212:16 am
Salt – Funny!
Stanford – W i d e………
January 3rd, 201212:17 am
No, there have been plenty of solid free agents who fit our budget and are looking at a 1 year deal. There are still some left. I dont want Wren to make a move just to make one. There are some solid options that make a ton of sense. Keep Prado and Jurrjens and improve the bench. Wilson Betemit is my No1 target who makes the most sense. Most likely looking at a 1 year deal. He made 1 mil last season so you have to figure it will double at most this season.
January 3rd, 201212:20 am
Bama, LSU, OK State & Stanford would have been a fun +1 final four.
MO if we fail to make the playoffs this season Wren or Fredi has to go. Just unacceptable…Va
wow. that is sure an unrealistic view. you do realize that most teams seldom make the playoffs. why would the Braves be any different?
January 3rd, 201212:21 am
I just don’t see JJ returning a player much better than Jones. Unless you chase prospects and one ends up turning out better than him. The guy has good numbers but like has been stated numerous times his value is down due to injury shortened years the last two years. If moved now I think we’d be lucky to pry someone like Jones for him. If you wait you have to hope he hits that 200 IP mark or makes 30+ starts next year to get good value for him. The highest his value will get will be mid season if he is pitching strongly.
January 3rd, 201212:22 am
Tom O, your Almighty Greatness>/b>, I will do so in the future. My name is actually Tom too, so the confusion never ends.
My concern is that, by the time Wren gets around to it, there may literally be no one available worth picking up. I myself am tired of hearing the Theriots and Cody Rosses of the world bandied about as potential targets, since I don’t think they really offer much in the way of improvement over what we have. And we do need improving. The rest of the division, with the exception of the Mets, has indeed gotten better, which, thanks to the unbalanced schedule, of course means it’s going to be tougher winning one of even two wild cards.
On the other hand, it’s a truism that Wren knows his business better than I. This is my mantra. It’s not doing much to keep me sane, though.
January 3rd, 201212:23 am
Oops, sorry about the typo that left my bold tag open there, folks.
January 3rd, 201212:24 am
I’m just blowing smoke, but come on. We expect the Braves to be a playoff team.
January 3rd, 201212:25 am
I just don’t see JJ returning a player much better than Jones. Unless you chase prospects and one ends up turning out better than him. P’
I don’t either, doesn’t mean I want Jones. rather keep JJ
Why I don’t think Betemit is a bad choice he strikes out a ton. He struck out 1 out of every 3 AB this year. I do like the fact thats hes a switch hitter which makes him a solid PH option late in games. Theres not much room to make to many additions however with Ross, Hinske and Diaz.
January 3rd, 201212:27 am
after 55 years of baseball I don’t expect much of anything. Lotsa folks got spoiled by that run, but that is not gonna go on forever. Even the Yanks have had dry spells.
January 3rd, 201212:28 am
I don’t see how the Braves can’t be seen as a playoff team? They removed a blackhole in the rotation. The bullpen will be deeper w/ Viz and Medlen in there a full year and Bourn will be here a full year. We won 89 games even w/ the terrible collapse. I don’t understand how one month of ball completely defines a team. Obviously September reigns supreme on everyones mind but a lot of people and baseball professionals consider this a very good team.
January 3rd, 201212:29 am
Just emboldening my name would have been sufficient. However, I appreciate the extra attention, Tom.
January 3rd, 201212:30 am
I can understand rolling with Hicks as our backup Shortstop, the free agent options are pretty comparable and would cost more. But i’m not confident in Diaz or Constanza. We already know Prado will be playing around 30 to 50 games at 3B. There’s a good chance Chipper could miss more time than expected making LF a huge hole. Replace Conrad with a solid part time player. Someone who can play COF or 3B. I really think we missed out on Andruw Jones for only 2 mil, Wilson Betemit is my favorite free agent that fits our need and budget.
January 3rd, 201212:32 am
Exactly, I agree were a really good team. Specially if the domino’s fall our way. But what happens if we finish 3rd or 4th and dont even make the Wild Card?
January 3rd, 201212:35 am
I myself am tired of hearing the Theriots and Cody Rosses of the world bandied about as potential targets, since I don’t think they really offer much in the way of improvement over what we have. And we do need improving. — SeATLite (I like the way you did the upper case, BTW)
The thing is, Wren doesn’t tell anyone about the names he’s trying to acquire. That’s been a Braves’ tradition for a long time.
The only names you’re hearing “bandied about”, are 100% total speculation.
It’s something for the blog to discuss and argue about, but not to take seriously. Everyone should relax and open a beer.
January 3rd, 201212:36 am
why then we will have had a year like the majority of teams……
January 3rd, 201212:37 am
Thats very possible in this division. Its going to be tougher this year. I think Wren has done a great job rebuilding this team. I don’t blame him for staying out of the FA market this year as the top FA really didn’t stand out to me outside of Beltran (would have been very risky). Hes been involved in talks for players but it takes two to complete a trade. I understand his hesitance in moving Prado and JJ value is lower than it needs to be to move him. I’m suprised he hasn’t made a move on one of the smaller FA such as Betemit or Ross. But this hasn’t been a normal offseason with the CBA and everyone waiting to see what would happen there. The offseason has been slow in general as we are now in January and there are still some big names available.
January 3rd, 201212:40 am
But most teams dont have a playoff roster. There expectations are lower than ours. Not making the playoffs is a failure. The offense killed us last year so the hitting coach took the fall. Makes sense.
But what happens if we finish 3rd or 4th and dont even make the Wild Card? — VaBravesFan
I dunno…. hope the Mayans were right?
January 3rd, 201212:42 am
The offense struggled no doubt but I think the Braves were right in removing the hitting coach. The team was a top OBP team in 2010 and one of the worse in 2011. Thing that changed most was the hitting coach and players made mention of struggling to communicate to hitters.
January 3rd, 201212:44 am
teams are great for a while and then fall back, it is the history of the game. the Braves are not always gonna be contenders every year
January 3rd, 201212:45 am
that would be a good excuse Tom, if there is anybody left to talk to about baseball……
January 3rd, 201212:47 am
I can see a coupla us skinny survivors shivering around a fire and complaing that we got robbed, that there was almost another full month left in which we coulda caught everybody else.
January 3rd, 201212:51 am
A lot of the younger fans started rooting for the Braves in the 90’s. They are, now, having problems with them not winning every year.
They don’t know how bad they were, many years ago, like us older Braves’ veterans.
January 3rd, 201212:53 am
I appreciate that Tom is appropriately placing himself in the same age category as nolie (even with the smiley face)…
I sure remember Tom. I also remember how great the Orioles, Reds and Pirates were for an extended stretch
January 3rd, 201212:54 am
Tom is old in wisdom VJ
I’m glad I was quasi-rooting for two teams today that mangled potential victories by becoming too conservative and turning their fate over to kickers…
January 3rd, 201212:56 am
Time to head off – I need to be at work by 3 or 4 tomorrow… (maybe even 2 – not sure right now)…
Exactly! I’m only 24 and I’ve been a Braves fan since 1997. So I watched my team make the playoffs 9 consecutive times and now only 1 time in the past 6 seasons.
I’m glad that my criminoles came back in the second half and beat Notre Dame
January 3rd, 201212:57 am
I did start pretty early, Jim. By the time I really understood baseball (mid-80’s), the Braves sucked! But I hung in there because my Dad loved them. (I almost left home because of it)
I, also, checked out their history. The 70’s was no picnic, either.
Well I’m calling it a night, have fun and cya later.
January 3rd, 201212:58 am
I’d guess that over the next 6-8 years of fandom you will learn the hard lesson of baseball history Va
January 3rd, 201212:59 am
From the previous blog which had 6,929 comments, Efrim led the way with 498 posts. There were 402 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 Efrim 498
2 nolie 451
3 jeffrey d 410
4 DS1 298
5 Bat Masterson 280
6 ChattTownBrian (CTB) 276
7 Ward 243
8 Brava 233
9 VaBravesFan 222
10 Lew 208
11 richbrave 174
12 uga-brave 155
13 keylargo 123
14 brian 113
15 cabravesfan 112
16 JoeBrave 109
17 Venice Jim 108
18 David O’Brien 104
19 MIBravesFan 86
20 Ray 79
21 DAP 78
22 tiger297 78
23 Tom O’Hawke 74
24 CB 70
25 TennesseePaul 70
January 3rd, 20121:00 am
Very True. I’m only 25 and followed the Braves closely ever since I was old enough to really start see what was going on. I’ve been watching games since 1994. What some don’t understand is that streak of 14 division titles isn’t just historical in baseball its unprecedented in professional sports. For guys and gals of my age all we really remember is associating October w/ Braves baseball. I’m hoping not to see to many down years and really hope the mid 2000’s were our down years and we will be competitive/ playoff caliber for the forth coming years.
January 3rd, 20121:01 am
Hey, DOB, do you think there’s any possibility the Braves give up on the idea of finding a veteran backup SS and just let Simmons back up Pastornicky? — SeATLite
No. NO NO NO.
But good Sign o’ the Times reference.
January 3rd, 20121:03 am
Any chance that Freeman could be moved to LF to make room for Mauro Gomez at 1B? — Big Al
Top poster by 2011 blog post date:
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20JAN2011 Trey 431 12.7
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25FEB2011 Tomahawkin 146 9.8
27FEB2011 nolie 87 6.9
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04MAR2011 Venice Jim 133 9.7
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09MAR2011 nolie 67 7.1
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14MAR2011 abwright 71 7.2
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23MAR2011 Venice Jim 81 5.5
24MAR2011 Venice Jim 117 8.3
25MAR2011 Venice Jim 203 15.8
26MAR2011 MIBravesFan 175 12.1
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29MAR2011 Tomahawkin 108 4.7
31MAR2011 nolie 137 4.1
02APR2011 MIBravesFan 164 6.5
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07APR2011 nolie 104 4.8
08APR2011 Tomahawkin 114 5.8
09APR2011 nolie 81 6.4
10APR2011 Tomahawkin 116 5.0
12APR2011 Tomahawkin 74 4.9
13APR2011 nolie 105 8.0
14APR2011 JC from DR! 124 5.5
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22APR2011 Tomahawkin 105 7.5
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25APR2011 Tomahawkin 107 4.7
26APR2011 Phil 56 3.6
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29APR2011 Tomahawkin 137 8.2
30APR2011 Tomahawkin 123 10.1
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12JUN2011 Tom O’Hawke 65 6.0
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15JUN2011 phil 77 4.5
16JUN2011 nolee 109 5.4
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21JUN2011 nolee 96 7.0
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24JUN2011 Skip Caray 61 4.8
25JUN2011 jeffrey d 102 8.3
26JUN2011 jeffrey d 57 4.4
27JUN2011 nolee 138 8.1
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12JUL2011 nolee 136 4.9
15JUL2011 noleeee 73 6.1
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17JUL2011 noleeee 89 5.8
18JUL2011 noleeee 111 4.9
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21JUL2011 ken 62 3.0
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27JUL2011 noleeee 113 3.5
28JUL2011 Mixxo 80 2.3
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03AUG2011 noliee 159 5.6
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07AUG2011 Tomahawkin 97 4.8
09AUG2011 Wookie Ninja 71 3.0
10AUG2011 Shaun 89 3.7
12AUG2011 noliee 115 4.9
14AUG2011 Tomahawkin 60 4.0
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17AUG2011 noliee 113 6.8
18AUG2011 Lew 86 4.6
19AUG2011 noliee 122 5.6
21AUG2011 MIBravesFan 72 4.1
22AUG2011 Tomahawkin 60 3.5
23AUG2011 Efrim 89 4.8
24AUG2011 noliee 66 3.5
25AUG2011 noliee 216 8.2
28AUG2011 noliee 74 5.9
30AUG2011 Tomahawkin 71 4.3
31AUG2011 DS1 83 5.2
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03SEP2011 Trey 94 8.9
04SEP2011 Tomahawkin 105 6.9
05SEP2011 Efrim 68 4.6
06SEP2011 McFann :Ô: :Ô: 74 3.4
07SEP2011 Efrim 88 3.6
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11SEP2011 Efrim 44 3.8
12SEP2011 Bobbys Booger 94 4.2
13SEP2011 phil 72 5.3
14SEP2011 phil 104 4.7
16SEP2011 Efrim 51 3.6
17SEP2011 Tom O’Hawke 69 5.9
18SEP2011 phil 115 6.4
19SEP2011 Efrim 100 4.1
20SEP2011 Efrim 164 7.0
21SEP2011 Efrim 195 5.3
23SEP2011 Brava 64 3.1
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25SEP2011 Efrim 137 5.4
26SEP2011 Efrim 123 3.8
27SEP2011 Efrim 154 4.3
28SEP2011 Efrim 573 4.8
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01NOV2011 Efrim 179 7.0
04NOV2011 Efrim 427 10.1
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18NOV2011 nolie 462 9.2
29NOV2011 nolie 384 10.4
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14DEC2011 nolie 218 6.0
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January 3rd, 20121:04 am
I hear you, man. When the Braves won their division in 91, I was thinking, FINALLY!!!
The long streak of winning every year became addictive. It’s tough to get used to being an “also ran”.
But, as nolie says, that’s baseball. I think the Braves do a great job, with their payroll constraints considered, every year in putting up a team that should be in the hunt for the year.
Most teams’ fans can’t say that.
January 3rd, 20121:07 am
DOB- Do Breeden’s teammates call him Gramps? — TNScott
He looked almost old enough to be the Stanford kicker’s dad.
January 3rd, 20121:08 am
Sad to discover that JoeBrave is coming between cab and me…
January 3rd, 20121:10 am
Wow – Efrim really dominating of late…
January 3rd, 20121:12 am
Funny – outside of the spring training blogs I won when I was doing mucho play-by-play, my only other top spot was July 4 when cab went off with her family…
January 3rd, 20121:13 am
Really going to bed now – good night, all!
January 3rd, 20121:19 am
I’ll have to start typing again. I can’t let VJ beat me two times in a row. Good night, buddy.
I went back to see what I was alluding to. It had to be that, “Half Glass Broken”, dude.
He wanted to start calling the Braves, the Atlanta IFS, based on the speculations of your blog.
The A Bomb - OUTCHOKED ® TWICE!
January 3rd, 20121:45 am
QUESTION: Why is a position apparently being given to an unproven rookie with no MLB experience without competition?
This is why teams finish in the second division. Everything’s played out on paper.
January 3rd, 20121:57 am
The A Bomb
Are you talking about Chipper Jones, Jason Heyward, or Freddie Freeman?
January 3rd, 20122:05 am
Jones – callup ‘93 – No. 1 pick. Credentials.
Freeman – callup ‘10. No. 2 pick. Credentials.
Heyward – Minor League Player of the Year. Credentials.
Pastornicky: Good prospect, no experience. Best sample size at AA. Error machine.
Very risky move. Very risky. This is shortstop we’re talking about. Make the guy work.
January 3rd, 20122:14 am
how risky can it be compared to what else was available?. it would be hard to be worse than most of those guys are
January 3rd, 20122:17 am
I’m sure another SS was in Wren’s “A” plan, A Bomb. Maybe, still is. However, sometimes when that option fails, one has to go with plan “B”.
There’s still almost 4 months before the opening day lineup is posted. There’ll be plenty of time to complain after that.
January 3rd, 20122:19 am
Oh, crap!!! We woke up, nolie. Sorry, buddy.
I don’t know Tom, he said all along that he would not pay much or more than one year. not sure what anybody expected him to get within those parameters
January 3rd, 20122:22 am
been awake, just finished up the last few episodes of Suits. pretty good show IMO.
January 3rd, 20122:24 am
I don’t know either, nolie. All I know is I have faith in what he’s trying to do, and I’m not going to complain about what I think are his failures, this early!
January 3rd, 20122:27 am
Just for the halibut (we fishermen use that term to death), what do you think of Pastornicky’s (sp?) defense. Or haven’t you ever seen him?
January 3rd, 20122:32 am
I saw him a bit in high school down here and a short video from this year that a friend sent. I think he will be an OK defender. seems to have decent range, arm might not be great but should suffice. had pretty good hands in HS. I was a bit surprised when I saw his numbers in the minors, I thought he would be some better than that.20 some errors if he plays full time perhaps?
January 3rd, 20122:35 am
You like to look at other stats, rather than errors. Are those stats available for minor leaguers?
January 3rd, 20122:40 am
for his MilB career he is -3 on his Total Zone Runs Above Average, which would suggest that he is very close to average I guess. The numbers I usually quote from Bill James site are not available for minors guys
January 3rd, 20122:42 am
I bought a network (ethernet) cable splitter almost a month ago. It’s coming from China, and only cost $.06, TOTAL, including shipping.
It hasn’t arrived yet, and the seller is worried about it. I just got my second e-mail from him in the last 2 days. He’s worried about negative eBay feedback.
For the 2nd time, I told him to relax. Just the fact that he’s TRYING to send me something from China, for 6 freakin’ cents, is enough to give the most incredible, positive feedback in the history of eBay.
6 cents, delivered??? Are you kidding me?
January 3rd, 20122:48 am
I wonder if it will work as long as it has taken getting to you?
January 3rd, 20123:00 am
Well, holy SMOKES!!! That’s the first post I’ve had eaten in a while.
Sorry, nolie, I’m not gonna retype it. (I can’t flatter you like that twice in the same night.)
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January 3rd, 20127:48 am
Sometimes we have short memories, Prado if I remember correctly when he was first going to take over 2nd base, he had limited range and had stone hands—(sound familiar) He worked his butt off and became a solid infielder. I think with Pastor.. we are going to like his speed. I don’t think he will be a Gonzo of 2011 but I don’t think he is going to be a Theroit either. The kid may start off a little slow especially in spring training but will settle in come opening day.
My Oblique is Killin' Me!
January 3rd, 20128:11 am
From Jon Heyman:
“A number of forum posters and I mentioned that the signing of Crisp would give the Orioles an opportunity to deal Adam Jones. And it appears we may have been on to something, as Scott Swaim (he broke the Albert Pujols deal with the Angels) is reporting that the Orioles and Braves are “making progress on an Adam Jones deal”:
January 3rd, 20128:14 am
Very sorry to hear of the passing of Jim Huber,loved his commentary.
January 3rd, 20128:17 am
Multiple connections in the MLB. Broke the news of Albert Pujols signing with the Angels, Cuddyer/Rockies, Furcal/Cardinals, Beltran/Cardinals
Talks about JJ in the Adam Jones potential deal.
January 3rd, 20128:23 am
NL East would need 3 Wild Cards for the Braves to make the post season this year, provided they could beat out the Mets for 4th place which i’m not too sure about.
January 3rd, 20128:29 am
Ralph, and others of your ilk – I disagree. I strongly believe we will make at least wild card. Time will tell, as they say…and of course, you are assuming that we will make no additional moves, which is wrong.
January 3rd, 20128:32 am
If Prado goes to Denver he will hit 300 plus and 25 HR”s and Smith would hit 250 with 15 HR’s in Atlanta, sounds like a great trade.
January 3rd, 20128:44 am
All the trade rumors involving Prado for a corner outfielder make no sence to me, except maybe Adam Jones, I see no improvement plus Prado can fill in at 3rd and 2nd base. Looks to me we need a Right Fielder instead of a Left Fielder.
January 3rd, 20128:45 am
IF JJ goes to Baltimore for Adam Jones, I don’t see the need for Prado to be traded to the Rox. Of the outfielders that were out there like Quentin or even Cody Ross, I personally think Jones would be better. IMO jones bourne and heyward is better than insert ross instead of jones. Plus we would have the benefit of prado there to fill in when one of the outfielders needs a break or chipper. Now depending on what else we have to give up is what concerns me. I don’t see the O’s doing it straight up. No way.
January 3rd, 20128:47 am
Coco Crisp isn’t going ot Baltimore. Heyman has already reported that it’s not the team he chose. Looks like Jones is staying put…..thankfully.
January 3rd, 20128:49 am
Ray, how bout Jones, Bourn, and Prado????????
January 3rd, 20128:52 am
JJ and J Hey for Adam Jones.
January 3rd, 20128:54 am
Just saw that from Scott Swaim. He doesn’t look like the most credible source, imo.
I was just thinking, I hope Wren isn’t thinking bourn and jj to O’s for Jones and something else. Thats not viable. Or is it? lets hope not.
January 3rd, 20128:56 am
Right on Ralph and panamajack, don’t think I can take another year of Wayward.
That’d be an awful trade. Worst trade of the century.
CB……ditto on the passing of Jim Huber. He was a real pro and spoke eloquently as opposed to all the “talking sports heads” who all sound like each other. A loss!
January 3rd, 20128:59 am
Ralph @8:44 – We have a right fielder…Heyward will be fine.
January 3rd, 20129:02 am
Much ado about……………nothing. Great to have a new article to read though. Hope DOB got home to enjoy some of that fantastic eastern N.C. ‘Q’ Here’s the report on the minor’s.
BTW, makes me feel great to read about PASTORNICKY, SIMMONS, TERDOSLAVICH, and know who they are and what they’ve been doing in the organization rather than going, “whaa-a-a……….who’s he?? “Is he a BRAVE?” I feel a bgit less clueless. Probably shouldn’t, but I do. Anyway, hope 2012 treats us all to a World Championship………..Go BRAVES.
No games scheduled.
DOMINICA – playoffs
No BRAVES played.
1B DONEL LINARES [.118 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI , 1 SO.
RHRP JAIRO ASENCIO [18.00 ERA] 0.0 IP, 3 H, 4 R/ER, 1 BB, 4 BF, 0 GO/ 0 AO. Ouch. His second stinker of an outing in 24 this fall-winter. And both have been in his last three mound appearances. Hum-m. Long season?
PUERTO RICO – regular season ends 1/4/12
No games scheduled
VENEZUELA – playoffs begin 1/2/12
No games scheduled. WTF?
bustersonly – Guess you’ll have to stop watching the Braves. Heyward will have a bounceback year. I won’t call you names, but Buggs Bunny would say you are a “maroon”.
January 3rd, 20129:04 am
You won’t say that after JJ goes down with a bum knee and Wayward batts 220 with 100 strike outs and 15 walks.
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Around The Horn
January 3rd, 20129:08 am
BRAVES IOWA CAUCUS: NO ON SMITH
Why vote “yes” on S. Smith when the Braves have M. Prado, who isn’t a one dimensional player like Smith (i.e. Prado can hit right handed or left handed pitchers; Smith cannot) and can back up Chipper at 3rd?
January 3rd, 20129:15 am
busteronly.. do you seriously believe JH is going to walk only 15 times the entire season? Really? And I do agree with Efrim, that would be a horrendous trade on many fronts including from a financial standpoint. Makes zero sense.
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
January 3rd, 20129:18 am
I’m not on any list…cool I have a life, lol.
January 3rd, 20129:22 am
Not really a fan at all of Adam Jones. Low OBP, power in a hitters ballpark.
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