7:03 pm January 2, 2012, by David O'Brien
January 2nd, 20129:47 pm
I wouldn’t say Wren had no intentions of bringing in new players. The right deal hasn’t presented itself. I’m a little disturbed at going with Pastornicky to start the season, but I have no real idea where the guy is in his development.
There are still quite a few guys out there on the FA market. I wouldn’t sign anyone if waiting could bring the price down more.
Once Princess signs, the big impact guys will be settled. Other than Beltran, there wasn’t really anyone who would have fit the Braves needs on a contract that would make sense for the Braves (i.e. 2 year deals for over-the-hill SS would not fit the Braves needs at all).
That’s fair, Steve.
I’m not sure that all the latin trio become starters. I think Teheran is a front line guy and Delgado is a three or four guy. I think Viz pans out more as a reliever in a set up role or closer. The biggest question going forward will be what to make of Beachy, Minor and Hanson. If Hanson can’t stay healthy it will be interesting to see what type of future he will have in ATL.
January 2nd, 20129:50 pm
How funny, Moe. Had a few classmates hurl the name Sofa at me too.
Best of luck to your wife, hopefully she doesn’t have too much trouble with the process. What a headache.
January 2nd, 20129:51 pm
While your wife is waiting for her new green card, tell her not to sample any home made hooch.
Did you read about that disaster?
January 2nd, 20129:54 pm
Minor would be great if he could use Glavine’s strike zone.. Outside of that I don’t see him making an impact. Hanson’s delivery is gonna end his career early.
I’m not sure that all the latin trio become starters. I think Teheran is a front line guy and Delgado is a three or four guy. I think Viz pans out more as a reliever in a set up role or closer.
I sure hope all three become starters. Vizcaino in the pen for 2012 and perhaps even 2013, but I hope the rotation is in his future. 200 innings are so much better than 60 innings…..even if they are high leverage innings.
And let’s all hope Hanson is healthy. Really hurts our long term outlook, imo.
January 2nd, 20129:58 pm
January 2nd, 201210:02 pm
DOB i love how these random people that visit the blog possess no reading comprehension…the rest of us very much appreciate all that you do…i would never, and never have reply to this blog while on vacation…the rest of the unwashed masses be damned….a great big thank you to you
January 2nd, 201210:03 pm
Looks like Orioles are signing Coco Crisp to free up Adam Jones to be moved, according to Jon Heyman maybe the Braves.
January 2nd, 201210:14 pm
I’d rather sign Crisp myself than to give up what the Os want for Jones
January 2nd, 201210:16 pm
Any chance the Braves would be interested in a package form the Jays of Eric Thames and Anthony Gose for JJ. If so, do you think it’s possible?
I agree with Nolie, unless all that it takes to get Jones is Jurrjens or Prado, with them giving us Jones and a prospect.
January 2nd, 201210:17 pm
sheesh…here we are in the basement with the mets…make a freakin move1
January 2nd, 201210:18 pm
nolie….i dont believe i have ever disagreed with your baseball acumen….but i still say Bridges was better than the Duke in True Grit……………….btw i may be drunk
last place is good for your character
that which doesn’t kill you makes you stronger…..
If the Braves fail to make the playoffs will Wren and Gonzalez be fired after the season? I think Fredi would go and Wren would get at least 1 more year.
January 2nd, 201210:19 pm
I’m waiting for another blockbuster Jack Wilson deal! Wow, the Braves are exciting….
January 2nd, 201210:20 pm
No to giving up JJ or Teen for Jones, Smith, or (insert whatever freakin name here) No No No
It makes absolutely no sense…….none
Coach (2012 Fredi's beisbol fandango)
January 2nd, 201210:21 pm
“We’ve gotten younger and I think we’re progressively getting a little more athletic and injecting speed, all the things we’d like to do going forward,” general manager Frank Wren said last month. “The talent we have coming up in the system will profile more with the speed component.”
Great, fantastic, awesome. But I have just one question…..
Where is this organization’s commitment to playing top notch defense, because Uggla for all his gaudy numbers, hard work and consummate professionalism doesn’t cut it at 2B. Coupled with the loss of Gonzo at SS who was arguably the teams best defender, which leaves our up the middle defense full of holes. Adversely affecting our young starting pitching staff, their pitch counts and once again overworking the bullpen. So why should this fan give a damn in 2012 because I can’t take the Braves seriously at all competitively.
January 2nd, 201210:22 pm
The Orioles don’t seem like the obvious fit as they already have a fine young center fielder in Adam Jones. But they could move Jones to left field and form an outfield with three players capable ot playing center. The Braves have been asking about Jones’ availability, but the asking price has been understandably high. Baltimore wouldn’t do it straight-up for young righthander Jair Jurrjens.
I luv both actors Salt so I won’t argue too much. I liked the first movie better though
January 2nd, 201210:23 pm
If the Braves fail to make the playoffs will Wren and Gonzalez be fired after the season?
pretty unlikely for Fredi, NWIH for Wren
January 2nd, 201210:24 pm
Found out the Braves invited Adam Russell from Tampa Rays as a non roster invitee.He has control problems with walks.Not as bad as Proctor,but not as good as Linebrink. It will aslo bring depth to the farm system in Gwinett.
January 2nd, 201210:25 pm
Jones is one of the more overrated players in baseball. he can stay in Baltimore AFAIC
January 2nd, 201210:26 pm
Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden is 2 months older than Green Bay Packers QB Aaron Rogers. No, seriously.
Weeden turned 28 in October. Rogers turned 28 in December.
January 2nd, 201210:29 pm
Well on the bright side no Lowe, McCloth or Kawakami. We are better for that. And while we are at it let’s remember last year that the media and fans all but crowned the Phils World Champs! 162 games is a long season with many twists and turns…our fate is being determined before the 1st pitch. We need to remember the Cards season last year and where they ended up in spite of being written off!
DOB hope you had a great week off.. Jeff Porter’s wife getting killed and his son and girl friend hurt really upset me. My Prayers are for Jeff’s family and son’s GF. Thanks for new post..Go Braves!
McFann O O o
Thanks for the link to the Guest Book, DOB!
January 2nd, 201210:32 pm
nolie…..Bridges could never do Big Jake….hell no one else could…or Rooster Cogburn and the Lady…or The Shootist
nolie-Agree with Adam Jones. At least Smith has a higher OPS.At first thought it was good,but not at the cost of players.
January 2nd, 201210:33 pm
Adam Jones may be overrated but hell every team does that with their own players. Just like we overvalue JJ and Prado.
Jayson Werth is not 20…he is 32
January 2nd, 201210:35 pm
Mr. Porter….breaks my heart…Im so sorry Ive never met you, but I’ve seen you so often I feel you are a part of my family…I have been praying hard for you since yesterday morning
January 2nd, 201210:36 pm
Well guy’s it’s been cool,and try to word things better in my post. It’s been good talking tonight. Sure been an iteresting Off season. Peace………Talk tomrrow.
January 2nd, 201210:37 pm
Mcfann….good to see you
January 2nd, 201210:41 pm
Adam Jones overrated? Sorry, but I hardly hear of the guy. You did a lot when that Bedard to M’s trade was going down, but I hadn’t heard of him much at all since. Except until this offseason of course.
January 2nd, 201210:42 pm
You still around? Hi
Thanks for the work DOB. Happy New Year.
See ya Ward … in about 5 minutes.
January 2nd, 201210:45 pm
Playing half of his games at thin-aired Coors Field, Seth Smith hit for a .287 average, .347 OBP, 56 extra-base hits and 15 home runs? He’s unlikely to match those numbers playing half of his games at pitcher-friendly Turner Field.
January 2nd, 201210:46 pm
Winter has finally reached its spiney hand down to the coast…..28 in the morning…God bless you people that have to live in it
p.s. it’ll be 70 by the weekend
January 2nd, 201210:48 pm
been in the 80s here the last few days, 81 tomorrow, low for the week is 72…
Hi, Salt Life! Good to see you, too! Any new birds lately?
January 2nd, 201210:49 pm
I should say the low daytime temps. Low for the night is 45…
January 2nd, 201210:50 pm
cab………….(sticking my tongue out at you)
January 2nd, 201210:54 pm
Mac…………no new ones…I have a Great Horned Owl and a young Hawk (of which type I cannot discern yet) hanging around…..today I had like 20 sparrows at my bird feeder…gotta figure out how to upload my iphone pictures to the laptop…..
January 2nd, 201210:55 pm
I still don’t have a team and yet have better stats than Seth Smith in my down years.
January 2nd, 201210:57 pm
Hey Johnny, lets talk. Sincerely Frank Wren
January 2nd, 201210:59 pm
cab…..know you have Nola….had Pitt mix wander up to the house at T giving…he is a cool doggie….sweet beyond explanation…named Dutch…after my favorite pres
January 2nd, 201211:00 pm
A Great Horned Owl!! How exciting!! I LOVE owls! We used to hear a Barred Owl quite often, but the last few years it’s been pretty rare. We heard a couple of them hooting back-and-forth to each other a couple months ago—that was really cool! They make some of the craziest sounds, but don’t sound quite as frightening as the Barn Owl (which we’ve only heard recordings of). Great Horned Owls make that classic owl sound, though—the very deeps hoots—I love that…
We saw a Cooper’s Hawk today! We’ve also seen the huge Red-Tailed Hawk a few times the last few months. They’re so amazing…
gotta figure out how to upload my iphone pictures to the laptop…..
That’d be fun! I always enjoy bird photos!
January 2nd, 201211:01 pm
I’m in lurking mode, cabravesfan. (means I’m working & goofing off)
January 2nd, 201211:04 pm
It hurts me so much that I have to don warm clothes for the next few days….but now i will retire and curl up next to the person I love most in the whole world (btw..she feels the same about me)
at least she says she does
IMO if we fail to make the playoffs this season Wren or Fredi has to go. Just unacceptable.
January 2nd, 201211:06 pm
its cold where I am…
January 2nd, 201211:09 pm
Fredi talking to Wren on the phone, today: if we don’t make the playoffs this season, we’ll have to get a new fan base.
Mac…..im not making new years resolutions….but im making changes at the new year…i will learn how to get photobucket up and running in the next couple weeks…and all the world will see …including Tom..
Owls are the coolest..I’m glad you had/have a Barred Owl. Their call is the coolest of all IMO
January 2nd, 201211:14 pm
No need to stick your tongue out- not your fault you don’t life in paradise
Not to be picky, but it’s Nala and Pitt pups are super sweet! I assume you kept the pup that came to you? They do make GREAT pets if you treat them right Good for you!
January 2nd, 201211:16 pm
I can’t wait to see them! Have I ever showed you my day-by-day photos of a Carolina Wren Nest we had back in 2005? My pride and joy… Last Wren Nest we’ve had in our yard that I’ve been able to access… JennyGirl and Boogity were very special Wrennies…
Unfortunately, I’ve never been able to get a photo of our Owl—Brother saw it once, and I missed a BMac Grand Slam (the second of his career) to try to see it also, but all I saw was a wing…
Good stuff DOB. Happy New Year
January 2nd, 201211:17 pm
Tom – you do realize that if we don’t make the playoffs this year it will be the first time any MLB team has failed to reach the playoffs in consecutive years…
January 2nd, 201211:18 pm
Any update on the Braves’ new unis? They’ll be unveiled this month, correct? I’m curious to see if it going to be a new uniform plus new hats and pants.
January 2nd, 201211:21 pm
Just my opinion. When we make zero additions cause we like our roster and believe last year was a fluke. You better come threw.
cab……I couldnt pay the taxes it would cost me to live in (your) paradise…Eleven and a half months of the year, I love my paradise
Mac…I saw the video you posted of JennyGirl….you feeding the Wrennies out of your hand….so coll!!!!
January 2nd, 201211:24 pm
Thanks! That was actually Beggar Ben the Wren—another super special Wrennie…
I’m hoping I cann train the pair we have now, but they don’t seen too int’rested…
January 2nd, 201211:26 pm
VJ and Tom……you do realize the Braves are the only team to make the palyoffs 14 years in a row and never win anything….including a Yogi Berra Award, Steve Carlton Award, or a Golden Globe?
January 2nd, 201211:27 pm
Braves are in serious talks with the O’s for Adam Jones. Got info from very reliable source. Things are about to get juicy.
January 2nd, 201211:29 pm
cab….Dutch rules this house…it used to belong to my wife…now it belongs to Dutch..I never had any illusion that I was in charge (smiley face here)
January 2nd, 201211:30 pm
here we go again with all the bogus rumors. The O’s want to much for Jones, not gonna happen.
January 2nd, 201211:31 pm
Oh well, that’s it for me tonight! Wanted to not stay up so late during the off-season as part of the New Year gig, but have so far blown it every night!…
January 2nd, 201211:32 pm
I’ve often wondered what cabravesfan loves more; California, USC, 49ers, Nala, Braves, the Blog, VJ, or wine.
I’m thinking, Nala, is number one. After that, it’s anybody’s guess.
Night Mac….does me good to chat with you
I just find it humorous when people start crying before the cows have even been milked…
January 2nd, 201211:33 pm
Good night, young lady.
Tom….I would guess VJ number 2(?)…then wine…absolutely wine!!
January 2nd, 201211:35 pm
I try to avoid palyoffs – people draw inappropriate conclusions…
Tom….Im a little short on history…you and VJ and cab have been face to face, correct?
January 2nd, 201211:36 pm
I think the Braves are better off keeping Prado and JJ based on the potential trades I’ve seen. Sometimes you just have to improve from within and give young players time to develop. Prado is an average LF, but he is an allstar utility player in my opinion.Yes, he will cost maybe 5m next year, but you would probably have to replace him with 2 players that would cost just as much, if you can get them. I think JJ is the best piece to trade because of the good young pitching we have ready, but I worry about injuries affecting Hudson, Hanson, JJ, Medlin, and some of our bullpen. You can never have enough pitching, so I would hold onto JJ too, at least until ST, if not longer to see how Hudson and Hanson are physically.
No way – USC #2…
January 2nd, 201211:38 pm
Tom’s slowness to make a trip to California left me the opening through which I quickly leapt…
In picture, only (at least where I’m concerned). I believe VJ & cab may have been face-to-face on an occasion or two.
January 2nd, 201211:41 pm
Tom…your wit never ceases to amaze and amuse (at least a simple mind like mine)…VJ took the same oath as I….to stamp out ignorance and stupidity wherever it may raise its’ ugly head
January 2nd, 201211:44 pm
When are you two going to start stamping on this blog, Salt life?
January 2nd, 201211:47 pm
I take my comment is ignorant and stupid? We as fans expect this to be a playoff team period. Its not ok to fall short again. Specially after how confident Wren is being with the same exact roster.
Sorry Tom…that would be akin to the 300…
January 2nd, 201211:49 pm
VaBraves…..was not directed at you…sorry for the confusion
January 2nd, 201211:50 pm
“My German was better than my Russian, and Putin spoke German well from his KGB days,” Bordley said. “I never dreamed during my playing days that one day I’d be speaking to the Russian president in German.”
In case you missed it, cool article from Dave Sheinin of The Washington Post…
Ode to Ryan Theriot | World Series Dreaming
January 2nd, 201211:51 pm
[...] remembered that he was smart. So scratch that idea. Who else? Well, for some reason the Braves were mentioned as a possible suitor, but as stated in the article, they’d be better served with a good defensive shortstop. [...]
January 2nd, 201211:52 pm
I hear you, Salt life.
VaBravesFan, I’m sure he wasn’t talking about you. Haven’t you ever read some of the ridiculous posts that are on here? They are, usually, by a new moniker – which means it’s probably the same idiot using different names.
January 2nd, 201211:53 pm
The only time I would ever say negative on this blog would be to dentz….yes ignorant and stupid..cosign or whatever I have to do on that….oh, and Don, and Robert, and Mitchell, and Mixxo, and……oh crap I give up……..I have tried but I have failed
I did not call you either – I am just saying you are moaning and groaning about things which are nine months away – and saying “it’s not okay” indicates that you do not understand how so many teams have not come close to experiencing the excellence we have for so many years. Demanding someone be fired for an undetermined fate nine months from now is the sort of thing that I find highly … interresting…
January 2nd, 201211:55 pm
oh ok sorry, thought it was about my comment about Wren or Fredi should be gone if we miss the playoffs again. Which some would disagree with.
January 2nd, 201211:57 pm
The city knows when a rocket ship explodes, and everybody still wants to fly.
Some say a man ain’t happy truly, until a man truly dies.
Oh, why? Oh, why?
Of the Times.
Hey, DOB, do you think there’s any possibility the Braves give up on the idea of finding a veteran backup SS and just let Simmons back up Pastornicky? If the point is just to have great defense waiting on the bench anyway, based on what you’ve been saying it sounds like Andrelton has that in spades. (I’m guessing the answer is no, but I figured I might as well ask.)
January 2nd, 201211:58 pm
Couch…..funny story…..I was a small town deputy sherrif that can speak Spanish…I pulled over a speeding vehicle driven by a German that spoke Italian, who had a passenger that was Italian and spoke Spanish…..we had a fun time talking to each other that day…
p.s. I did not write him a speeding ticket
January 2nd, 201211:59 pm
thought it was about my comment about Wren or Fredi should be gone if we miss the playoffs again. Which some would disagree with.
January 3rd, 201212:00 am
A backing up role, would hinder Simmons’ progress, don’t you think?
January 3rd, 201212:01 am
DOB- Do Breeden’s teammates call him Gramps?
Go get free-agent, Jeff Keppinger, can play SS, 2nd or 3rd. Lifetime .285 hitter, hardly ever strikes out. Probably cost about 3-4 million, good choice in my opinion. Former Parkview HS and UGA star, will help fan-base also.
January 3rd, 201212:05 am
I’m not demanding anything, just think it makes sense for those 2 to be on the hot seat if we fail to make it to the playoffs again. Wren hasnt made 1 significant addition to the ballclub and believes last season was a fluke, so Fredi has a roster capable of making the playoffs. I’m not moaning just saying what I think if we dont make it.
Tom, I do, yes. It’s not the move I would make, but while I was reading the blog it occurred to me as a not utterly ludicrous possibility. Although it most likely is just that.
Probably just my brain getting itchy from all this sitting around waiting for something to happen.
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