Memorial for Kathy Porter, wife of Braves trainer

phil

January 2nd, 2012
10:28 pm

Sadly, Porter will be blamed.

This kind of absurd, senseless thing is absolutely unacceptable in our society, yet we continue to tolerate it from our boneheaded public safety folks.

It is really upsetting.

My condolences to the Porter family.

jharber

January 2nd, 2012
10:31 pm

as a retired officer i know its hard on the trooper, but i cannot imagine the pain jeff is feeling right now DOB thanks for the update. may god bless the porter family thru this trying time

Tim

January 2nd, 2012
10:32 pm

Seriously Phil??? The trooper had lights and siren on. Emergency vehicle has the right of way. Terrible tragedy but don’t blame the trooper.

labalt

January 2nd, 2012
10:34 pm

Condolences to the Porter family

Tootragic

January 2nd, 2012
10:46 pm

I believe that responding officers need to use caution when on surface streets, especially busy ones, during an extremely busy tine. I was almost hit head on at an intersection by a police office —who had his lights and sirens on, but that was of no defense as he made a left turn head on into traffic directly toward me. Luckily I was able to move over and be missed as he completely turned around to head the the opposite direction, which was the direction of his actual call that only turned out to be a fender bender, but had been called in as an accident with injuries. Like the police chief said to me that day: “THEY AIN’T HELPING IF THEY CAN’T GET THERE (WHICH, IN THIS CASE HE DIDN’T) and their first priority is to keep the public safe, not to put innocent lives in danger.” The thrill of the chase maybe??? Ya think? Not to mention the trooper was cresting a hill at a high rate of speed, chances are Mr. Porter never heard nor saw him until it was too late. Very sad for all involved. I am sure the trooper is sick over it as well.

Bob

January 2nd, 2012
10:49 pm

If you weren’t already aware – lights and sirens do not give any public safety people blind freedom to completely blow through an intersection—— especially when vision is obscured as was the case with this particular one. also – more than one witness has said that the trooper’s siren was not activated…..
It’s a tragedy on both sides of this coin…

J

January 2nd, 2012
10:50 pm

No Tim,

That is where you are wrong. The emergency vehicle never has the right-of-way coming upon a red-light. You still have to drive with due regard. You might want to look up the code, it is Georgia Code, Motor vehicles and traffic – Title 40, Section 40 – 6 – 6. I am not going to go in to detail about the entire code, but it may interest you to read this. I have been in Public service for too many years and I promise you, that your thoughts on this are completely wrong.

Billy

January 2nd, 2012
10:54 pm

Witness said Trooper couldn’t see the light at intersection..but the rules for a chase is not to endanger anyone else. GSP was speeding in business district which is no-no..Prayers for all and may God bless Porter’s family,friend & GSP..RIP Kathy.

Billy

January 2nd, 2012
11:00 pm

J is right!

Michael in Decatur

January 2nd, 2012
11:01 pm

This was an accident that turned tragic., Do we need a thorough review of the circumstances and our procedures? Yes, of course. Now is not the time to speculate and assign blame. Both families are hurting and we need to reserve judgment until we know the FACTS. Even if Porter somehow failed to yield or was otherwise at fault, he most certainly did not want this outcome. And very few of us have the stuff to dedicate our days to public safety. Say a prayer for both families and try to refrain from mindless speculation….please?

Native Atlanta

January 2nd, 2012
11:04 pm

Very sad, but when your in the wrong place at the wrong time, thats it folks.

JRW7

January 2nd, 2012
11:06 pm

My prayers go out to Jeff Porter and family.

Art

January 2nd, 2012
11:07 pm

J is correct.

(2) Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign, but only after slowing down as may be necessary for safe operation;

ATLien

January 2nd, 2012
11:11 pm

Beyond sad RIP Kathy

Hooters!

January 2nd, 2012
11:12 pm

That cop should be indicted for vehicular homicide and heaved into Alcatraz for at least a lustrum. GSP policy should be changed so that canine-like chasing and bat-outta-hell velocity is banned. Cops and their mindless sycophants can just suck it!

Jane

January 2nd, 2012
11:14 pm

Of course the police “said” the officer’s lights and siren were on. That’s what they ALWAYS say when one of theirs crashes into someone. But the witnesses say otherwise……..again.
This exact type of crash happened in Port Orange, FL in 1990 with a rookie cop also after a motorcycle. A woman was almost killed and spent years in a wheelchair before being able to walk again and fought the city for as many years. They maintained their LIE that lights and sirens were on as witness after witness testified otherwise. She took her fight all the way to Tallahassee and a law was passed called the Bettye Arnold law that keeps the city from blaming the citizens for their poor judgment. And in the end, the jury found in favor of Mrs. Arnold. If the Porter’s are so inclined they should get the same attorney Mrs. Arnold had and sue the hell out of that department. That’s disgusting that they are already covering the cops ass and claiming his lights and siren were on.
Mrs. Arnold was told by a city official that they didn’t feel they should pay her 6 figure medical bills because “had she died” they’d “only have to pay her family $5,000. So much for protect and serve.
The jury made them pay all her bills, lost wages and attorney fee’s and more. I hope the Porter’s hold the city accountable. Cops play russian roullette with citizens lives everyday driving like arrogant teenagers in their pursuits. It’s ridiculous.

Sad for all involved

January 2nd, 2012
11:21 pm

My condolences to the Porter family. This is tragic and sad for ALL involved. I know the Trooper. He is a GOOD MAN. Don’t condemn him. This was an accident. With the obvious exception of the Porter family, I doubt anyone feels worse than he does. God be with everyone involved.

Ricky Grooms

January 2nd, 2012
11:22 pm

Terrible tragedy for all involved.

Pete*

January 2nd, 2012
11:26 pm

Tim, what you said is false, and just plain absurd. I dont know the facts in this accident, but IF the trooper ran a red light, he is absolutely at fault, no matter how many sirens and lights he had going. A trooper (or cop or fire truck) does NOT automatically have the right of way when going through an intersection

Mike

January 2nd, 2012
11:34 pm

As a former Police Officer and GBI Agent, I can attest that the trooper’s car out-ran his siren when he hit 35 mph…having said that, this is a difficult situation for everyone around…may God richly bless Jeff and his extended family…

James

January 2nd, 2012
11:37 pm

It was a terrible accident period. It wasnt something either planned for plain and simple. Either way you debate it, a persons life ended so instead of arguing back and forth lets keep the family of the Porters in our prayers as well as the Trooper and his family.

Tom

January 2nd, 2012
11:38 pm

there have been times i have been driving i hear a siren all of a sudden but can’t see what it is coming from. what would you do in that scenario. cautiously continue where you were going, or stop in your tracks, cuz it might be headed your way?

Brian Finley

January 2nd, 2012
11:38 pm

Everybody wants to blame law enforcement. What about the maggot running from the police? Until we make fleeing police a more serious crime, the maggots with continue to run. If police can’t chase, you create drivers running from the police more often. Make fleeing more a more serious penalty instead of the reverse.

sparta_bubba

January 2nd, 2012
11:38 pm

First my condolences to the Porter family.

Second to Jane, GSP is a state agency not city. So please leave the city out of this.

Third. It’s time for the state to pass a law banning “canine-like chasing and bat-outta-hell velocity” chases as they only endanger public saftey and do not enhance it. I would like to know what kind of activity was going on where one trooper could not handle it and a second or third had to race to the scene? Thinking about it, this means there were two or more simultaneous public saftety endangerments being generated by the GSP. One on I-20 and one on Memorial Dr. Were they chasing a mass murderer or someone who had just commited a major felony or was it this just a case of the GSP showing its balls because some frightened teen ager did not stop when blue lights were thrown on them? I hope the Porter’s sue the state and help to stop this senseless. Some chases are necessary, but most like this one, are not and should be ended.

Lefty

January 2nd, 2012
11:40 pm

Tim,

Witnesses interviewed on TV said the lights were on but they never heard sirens and the trooper never slowed down for the intersection. Don’t blame the innocent victims.

Joseph

January 2nd, 2012
11:45 pm

Jane, their cars are equipped with cameras that show when the lights and sirens are on so you can take your conspiracy theory down the road. You act like an arrogant teenager with your hatred of the police. I’ve known many police officers over the years and they are all great people who sacrifice so much for people like you who dont appreciate anything and lump them all into one for some isolated issue you have a little knowedge (not first hand).

Alex

January 2nd, 2012
11:47 pm

We need to blame the piece of crap that started all this. The scumbag that caused the accident was running from the police. He murdered Mrs. Porter. I know the officer, as well as the Porter family is wracked with grief. May God grant them peace and strength.

jackie b.

January 2nd, 2012
11:49 pm

The problem is not the trooper or jeff.The problem is the policy on chasing.Just stop it once you have a tag no. go get culprit tomorrow at home. Unless public safety is in danger.

Mike

January 2nd, 2012
11:52 pm

I hope an objective investigation will be done on possible criminal charges. Contrary to popular belief, officers are not above the law.

camille

January 3rd, 2012
12:02 am

Tragic accident. Witness stated that he saw the trooper speeding by with NO lights or sirens on. This is the same witness who tried to get the lady out of the car and saw her take her last breath.

Angie

January 3rd, 2012
12:22 am

Unfortunately, there are wreckless GSP, City Police, County Police, AND other drivers. Too many worry about getting where they are going faster, talking on the phone, cutting up, or just not paying attention. I’m not saying any of these happened in this wreck, as I was not there, and from what it seems, neither were any of you posting your opinions. People, know the facts, or don’t rush to judgement. The important thing here is that a family lost a wife, daughter, mother and friend.

UGA 75

January 3rd, 2012
12:27 am

As a 20 year Deputy Sheriff in a rural county, I can tell you the first thing the GSP teaches in their Driving course is public safety. This is a truly sad event for all concerned. The GSP Trooper made one or more mistakes and the Porter family and the Trooper’s family are all suffering presently. Our prayers should go out for everyone involved in this tragic ACCIDENT.

You don't know do you!

January 3rd, 2012
12:46 am

My thoughts and prayers goes out to the Porter and the trooper families. This was a tragic accident that resulted in a loss of life. There was no intent from the trooper to harm anyone. Accidents happen everyday. Few people are quick to past judgement on a accident that is still under investigation. Once the investigation is completed, it will be tried in a court of law. You are the same people who are jeopardizing people lives because you are speeding on the interstates in Atlanta because you are late for work, or trying to make it to daycare to get your child before six o’clock.

Jaine

January 3rd, 2012
12:52 am

You folks that want to go ahead and bicker and fight and debate all you want. Doesn’t matter. Kathy Porter is gone because of a tragic tragic accident. I just hope everyone is praying for Jeff Porter, his son – all who have suffered from this loss…if you have been a Braves fan as many years as I have, Jeff is part of the team…the family. His loss is every Braves fans loss who’s ever seen him trot across the field when someone his hurt. Now it’s our turn to trot across the field and help him. God bless them all.

Hit A Single

January 3rd, 2012
1:07 am

I believe whoever the officer was chasing should be charged with vehicular homicide. There actions put everybody in danger and they should be charged. I feel for the Porter family and the Officer and his family. Our thoughts and prayers are with you.

david g

January 3rd, 2012
1:28 am

did they ever locate the person they were chasing? so many are saying they should charge that person. I’m sure they will try if they have him in custody.

g\o

January 3rd, 2012
1:34 am

this is what happens when some renegade police officer thinks he’s starring in the dukes of hazzard and drives highway speed through the downtown of the largest city in the entire state and runs a red light. he needs some prison time in exchange for the murder of the innocent

Gwinnett Fred

January 3rd, 2012
1:47 am

I swear I recall when a new law was talked about, or maybe it was just a contemplated policy change, that high speed chases would be discontinued when police vehicles entered congested areas or residence areas, this being after a near fatal crash during a high speed chase.

I sure wish it I remembered correctly and more importantly, wish that if I am not, that state officials would open their eyes to the lopsided “plus/minus” circumstances in these cases.

In any event, prayers to the Porter family and a speedy recovery to those injured.

mike

January 3rd, 2012
2:00 am

When the law takes precedent over human life we have lost our bearings.Unless that GSP was chasing after a homicidal manic on the loose,then this tragedy was completely avoidable.The chase laws need to be changed.The cops need to get a sense of perspective about this INSANE policy.Imagine how this cop would feel if he killed his own wife chasing after a petty criminal or someone who was speeding.There is simply no rational justification for the police to endanger EVERYONE in pursuit of catching ANYONE.No other country in the world has the Keystone Cops mentality of placing all in danger over the police’s warped sense of priority.Let us all pray for the Porter family and the policeman who caused this tragedy.May God guide us to a sane policy.

lol

January 3rd, 2012
2:32 am

Gods special people. The earth unfolds for them, the skies part and the moon changes its orbit to suit their mood….

MWC

January 3rd, 2012
3:15 am

Joseph
JUst because you’re a cop doesn’t make you a ” great” person.

P B Orr

January 3rd, 2012
3:28 am

I love the people who say “the guy running from police killed Ms. Porter”. No, the fat thoughtless trooper is the one who killed her, by running his cruiser into her car and smashing her into atoms. The trooper, who is probably some strutting, preening, thoughtless narcissist with a shaved head and a bad attitude, is the person who killed her. Do you get it? No one else killed Ms. Porter. The State Patrol killed her. Understand? Good.

used to be phoenix falcon

January 3rd, 2012
3:38 am

about 2 years ago in Phoenix, A woman ( whom the police knew, where she lived, family, etc…) was driving to fast, the cop pulled her over, when she ( the cop ) got out of the police car the lady took off, long story short, while they was chasing this lady, by this time at least 10 cop cars, they tried to use the stop sticks to stop her, it worked, she stopped, but the cop behind her tried to avoid the stop sticks, and in doing so hit and killed the cop that threw out the stop sticks. guess who just got convicted of murder…. you guessed it, the chick who the police was chasing, they said she killed the cop, NOT, the cop that hit and killed him.

Condolences to Porter Family

January 3rd, 2012
5:10 am

All the finger pointing going on – will it bring Kathy Porter back? No. My heart aches for all involved. God is with them every step of the way. I pray they all find peace in this tragic accident. Find HIS comforting arms that is holding all of them. It cannot be easy for the officer either.

raleturn

January 3rd, 2012
5:23 am

This is a most unfortunate situation and exemplifies why LEO need to be psychologically tested yearly just as they have to qualify yearly to carry a pistol. The officer was just behaving in a manner that his culture has taught him. He was geeked up on testosterone so much when the opportunity presented itself to become involved in a high speed motorcycle chase – more than like a sport bike since it was on I-20 – that he forgot the basics of common safety. Hopefully this can be used as a teachable moment since I am sure the dashboard camera was running when the emergency lights came on, and perhaps the law needs to be changed through out the state that high speed pursuits for traffic offenses is not a viable option. This will not do Mrs. Porter any good, but perhaps it can bring her family some comfort knowing her death brought about sensible change to pursuit law in the state of Ga

Agree

January 3rd, 2012
6:23 am

P B Orr….
I agree with you! GSP is at fault for it does not take more than one cop to handle a motorcylist failing to yield-get the plate number and end the pursuit- The motorcylist was down on I-20 not up on memorial drive ramming his patrol car into the Porter’s SUV! I It kills me when even a low speed chase is occuring and you have 12 cop cars following behind just for a momentary adrenaline rush and the coffee talk later on.
The unfortunate problem is that if the Porter Family sues the State, we citizens will end up footing the bill from the State Treasury for the idiot GSP’s vehicular homicide. Meanwhile he’ll be back on the streets after his administrative leave is over to do it again-
I have no respect for any officer that forgets that his vehicle is also a weapon that can kill just as the gun they carry can .
The Laws have to be re-written to stop the foolishness of the “Whatever it takes to get the ticket revenue mentality, even if it kills someone” coupled with the high of the adrenaline rush they get in unsafe high speed pursuits. Because they know that the police chief is going to cover for them, they put morals aside to step outside of the law and feel comfortable to jepordize the safety of whomever.
We the citizens of Georgia have to contact our legislature and get it on the ballot like we did Sunday Alcohol sales and get it passed!!!! If our Senators and Congressmen that represent us don’t get it, then they need to get gone. We either talk about it or do about it….plan and simple-

Frank

January 3rd, 2012
6:42 am

I talked to a retired trooper and he said you do NOT run a RED light .Against GSP safety codes….The trooper will have a desk job when this is all over………

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dcauthen

January 3rd, 2012
6:50 am

@ Tim: If it were that cut and dry they wouldn’t be doing an investigation and just because they have lights and sirens on doesn’t mean they can do no wrong.

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Agree

January 3rd, 2012
7:01 am

Frank, if I slap a coworker in my office, i’m fired-
This cop killed an innocent person due to negligence, he should not have a job in public safety ever again….period.
I say we put the Porter Law on the ballot that if the pursuing officer has a dash cam and the pursuit exceeds posted speed limits or enters an area of pedestrians end the pursuit.
Just record the assailant’s actions with the dash cam and plate number and end the pursuit before the situation escalates out of control that can cause injury and/or death to innicent citizens and even the officer as well in which neither of these outcomes are worth it-

SuperTrooper

January 3rd, 2012
7:19 am

Its just too bad that that the “Super Trooper” refused to yield at a red light and caused a death.
The BIG question is:
“Will he be held accountable and responsible for a vehicular homicide as any ordinary person would be charged with?”
Surely he is ’suffering’ with the guilt that he possibly feels now, but would he do it again?
According to the witnesses accounts, the trooper ran the red light. Blue lights or not does not relieve him of the responsibility to drive with care nor do the lights and siren give him carte blanche to violate laws all are supposed to held accountable for.
Thinking that he sould at least do probation and never work as a law enforcement officer due to his blantant disregard for human life.
All over a failure to yield….. PITIFUL.

Elmer

January 3rd, 2012
7:25 am

I am surprised that many people on this board seem to have finally gotten over the mentality of giving cops a free pass just because they are cops. It has always baffled my mind that these troopers will blow past you on the interstate doing 110MPH just to pull someone over for a minor infraction and yet no one sees the hypocrisy in this? How are those speeds not endangering other drivers? In no way am I saying that some chases aren’t justified but the police are out of control in this country and no one wants to admit it. Cops have the menatality they have today becasue they have been getting a free pass for too long, the same laws apply to them. You can rest assured if Jeff Porter had hit the GSP and caused injury or death even if he had the green light charges would be waiting for him.

James

January 3rd, 2012
7:40 am

I can’t tell you how many times, the most unsafe driving I see all day is from Atlanta police. I hate to say it, but I can just picture how this officer was speeding with no regard for anything in his path, in effect showing off, or living out some super car chase fantasy. The coulple that witnessed it and was on the local news Saturday evening summed it up best, “He was going way too fast” and “This was avoidable.” I give condolences to the family and can’t imagine the sadness they are feeling. Something has to be done about the intelligence level of our police officers.

Road Scholar

January 3rd, 2012
7:49 am

First, my condolences to the Poerter family and to the police officer. The unexpected loss of life is a tragedy.

When I heard the initial reaction of the GSP that he was going up a hill and may not have seen the light, I immediately thought that this was a cover up to justify what happened. The “hill” is a very gradual upgrade with good sight distance to the signal heads. No mention of any hazards or trucks which could have blocked his vision; even though his vision may have been blocked or that he was distracted, the hill is not that steep. Having worked nearby and having to cross the intersection in a car and street on foot multiple times a day for 30 years, the sight distance to the signal and intersection is more than adequate.

As with most crashes, human error is the cause.

Celgo

January 3rd, 2012
7:50 am

Would love to know what the person the police were chasing was under suspicion of….The patrolman that hit Porter’s vehicle was not even the main pursuer. He was just joining the chase. Absolutely senseless. Most criminals being chased are not exactly rocket scientists; if you don’t catch them at that moment, give it a day or two….they will do something stupid and get picked up. However all of that said, unfortunately when your number is up, its up, regardless of circumstance. The biggest pain is always the “why” question, which only God really knows the answer to. As much as they are hurting, by all accounts the Porter’s are God loving and decent people. I pray that God heals their families pain sooner than later and to as great a degree as possible.

steve

January 3rd, 2012
8:07 am

Why in God’s name do we let these idiots drive public safety vehicles. Why do we as the public, allow deaths to occur all in the name of trying to go catch a speeder on I-20!! These cops strap on a badge and suddenly think they are king of the universe. Why do we chase people in cop cars!!!! Why!! Does killing one person in a wreck caused by a speeding cop outweigh catching someone for speeding, jaywalking, bank robbery!!!! NOOOOOO… STOP CHASING CARS!!!

Rodster

January 3rd, 2012
8:16 am

Deepest sympathy and condolences to the Porter family.

Police car chases are too dangerous to innocent people on the roads. For once, I side with the posters who call for the police agencies to seriously curtail high speed chases. Particularly in ATL. This was just senseless and completely avoidable.

mountain_jim

January 3rd, 2012
8:30 am

My prayers with the families.

I am sad that this ‘memorial’ thread devolved into the blame-game and finger pointing, which could have been saved for some other thread.

Thinker

January 3rd, 2012
8:34 am

Amazing. The same public that complains about a cop speeding is the same public that complains when a cop doesn’t pursue or turn on blue lights when they witness someone speeding by them. I had a friend two days ago submit a complaint on a cop because she felt he should have pulled a speeding driver over–the drive was going over 90+ mph on the highway. The cop just ignored them–I guess the cop for wrong for not chasing huh? You see…you hate them until you need them, then you complain about and on them when they are not there. This is a TRAGIC ACCIDENT! My prayers goes out to all!

mama was right!

January 3rd, 2012
8:37 am

My prayers go out to Jeff Porter and family!!!

Shelley

January 3rd, 2012
8:43 am

Kathy Porter lost her life because a State Patrol officer was getting ready to chase a motorcyclist that had failed to YIELD!!!! The motorcyclist hadn’t hurt anyone, hadn’t robbed a bank, hadn’t stolen the motorcycle, hadn’t started a fire……the motorcyclist had failed to YIELD! Why would another officer need backup to help with a motorcyclist that had failed to yield??? Must have been a slow chase day. Tens of thousands of people were making their way to the Dome that day just like the Porters. Signs over the highway said to expect congestion. That State Patrol officer disreguarded the safety of all the law abiding people on the road that day to chase a person who’s only crime was to fail to yield. My prayers are for the Porter family.

JeanE

January 3rd, 2012
8:46 am

My heart goes out to Jeff Porter and his family. I can’t imagine what they’re going through! I admit I’m jaded about law enforcement causing accidents. My Mom was involved in one, luckily it wasn’t serious but too many law officers think it’s a license to drive however they want and it absolutely isn’t. Her life could have been spared had he slowed down and not barrelled through the intersection! It will haunt that person the rest of their lives, I hope they are stuck in a desk job forever.

Buzzman

January 3rd, 2012
8:46 am

To @Tim, Georgia law states that the emergency vehicle does have the right of way, but must clear all intersections, by clearing all intersections that means they must slow down or even stop to make sure no vehicles are proceeding through the intersection. Just because they have their lights and siren on does not give them the right to blow through intersections.

William

January 3rd, 2012
8:52 am

As a retired law enforcement officer I am aware of chase guidelines. First of all, the idiot they were chasing was not an escaped murderer or other serious felon. Therefore, even more caution should have been used by the officer. Secondly, you never go high speeds in an area where the public is more prevelant (downtown in a conjested area). I suspect new guidelines on chases will come out of this very soon.

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Elmer

January 3rd, 2012
9:01 am

Mountain Jim I am sure everyone on here feels awful for everyone involved and means no disrespect by discussing this terrible incident but this is the place to discuss to it. The guest book is the place for offering sympathy and you would be correct in saying that is not the place to discuss or place blame. Maybe if enough people finally speak out about issues such as this instead of pretending there is no problem things will actually change.

Joe

January 3rd, 2012
9:03 am

A senseless tragedy but not a surprise at all. As a resident of Downtown Atlanta, it is not uncommon at all to see cops (both city and GSP) blow through intersections with no lights or sirens on. If you’re lucky..maybe you’ll get a quick blip of the lights as they pass through.

Jasmine Terse

January 3rd, 2012
9:03 am

Law Enforcement need to use caution when driving as well. It’s scary to know a police car could come flying 100 miles an hour at me and I have zero seconds to get out of the way. In my home state of Maryland we had a police officer that chased a speeding motorcyclist and it resulted in an innocent son and father being killed and the motorcyclist still got away.

Bill in Nebraska

January 3rd, 2012
9:20 am

“As a former Police Officer and GBI Agent, I can attest that the trooper’s car out-ran his siren when he hit 35 mph…” – Mike

I didn’t realize the speed of sound was 35 mph…I thought it was 768 mph…

but still......................

January 3rd, 2012
9:21 am

The issue of intent is just not a defense. Of course the officer didn’t INTEND to kill anyone. But………………neither does the drunk driver. Yet…………….it HAPPENS, and……………..the driver is held accountable……whether he meant to kill anyone or nor and regardles off what a fine person he or she might be.

mike

January 3rd, 2012
9:36 am

It’s understandable for those defending law enforcement but isn’t the point of preventing and containing chase scenarios for safety of the public? So is it OK to drive recklessly if you’re on your way to assist in chasing a vehicle down?

I don’t know. It’s all perspective depending on what side you look at it from. I just think its silly that a police officer would put drivers at risk when their ultimate goal is to maintain safety for them.

SG Bigtime

January 3rd, 2012
9:54 am

LEO’s driving too fast is not just in chases. It’s if they are going to a meeting, going to lunch, going home, etc. If they are in their work vehicles, a lot of them speed all of the time, simply because they can. Most will tell you that, with a wink and a nod, ” I was on a call”. I call BS on all of that. I think we need to randomly monitor their car’s speeds so they will have to obey traffic laws or face being fired. If you are legitimately going on a call, I’m all for getting there as fast as it is safely possible to do so. Going to meet your buddies for lunch and just running late, I don’t think so.

M.D.

January 3rd, 2012
10:04 am

Reckless Speeding is never safe.

JD

January 3rd, 2012
10:06 am

You can tell by some of the comments, that some of you have had bad experiences with law enforcement. Objectively, if the officer ran the red light, even if his emergency equipment was on, he is at fault. His dash cam is automatically activated when his emergency equipment is turned on, so there is irrefutable evidence. Chases are one of the most dangerous situations for both the officer and the public, which is why there are restrictions placed on when, where and for what a chase should be initiated or continued.
What is to be remembered today is that this mother has died and was taken before her time. Pray for her family.

Humbug

January 3rd, 2012
10:06 am

The GSP says this trooper had his lights and siren on. Eye witnesses say he did not.
The GSP says he was traveling up a hill that reduced his line of sight. A person who walks across this street several times daily says the hill is slight and does not reduce ones line of sight to the intersection where the wreck occured.
The GSP says the trooper was enroute to chase a speeder on I-20.
The speeder was already being chased so this trooper was enroute to join the other units already in the chase.
If other officers were already on I-20 chasing the speeder could not catch him what chance did this trooper have to travel thru congested traffic simply to reach I-20 have of catching the speeder?
The Jeff Porter family was simply on a family outing that called for driving to a football game at the dome in heavy traffic. Ms. Porter was sacrificed, her husband, son, and a friend were injured. What a tragic ending to this family outing because a GSP trooper was in too big of a hurry to join in a high speed chase some miles away.

really?

January 3rd, 2012
10:11 am

Really?…This is really sad for everytone involed. Those two cars must have been really crowded with all of the “experts” in this thread riding in them. Until you are in that car, shut your mouth. Must be nice to hide behind a computer and talk trash. The next time you need help, please call a friend and not the Police Officers you are all talking trash about.

Billy

January 3rd, 2012
10:12 am

Let’s start at the beginning. If that jerk punk on the motorcycle had not been eluding the police and breaking many laws in doing so, the tragedy would have never happened. My anger is pointed towards the motorcycle punk

Factsiz

January 3rd, 2012
10:12 am

S H O W B O A T I N G.
Simple as that.

extremus

January 3rd, 2012
10:13 am

My condolences and prayers are with the Porter family AND for the trooper, whom I am certain right now is having a very difficult time. Whether the accident was in fact caused by negligence or not, the end result has been devastating for everyone involved, and they all need our prayers right now.

This terrible incident is a sobering reminder just how tenuous our existence on this Earth is. My hope is that everyone involved will have swift healing physically and, as much as possible, emotionally. Life goes on even when we are hurting so badly we wish it wouldn’t.

Sad Situation

January 3rd, 2012
10:14 am

This is a terrible and sad situation for everyone involved and no one meant for this to happen.
In 99.9% of pursuits the trooper has no idea why the violator is refusing to stop only that he’s trying to stop him for a violation and it can only be known after the violator is stopped as to why he refused to stop….bank robbery, murder, rape, no license or just plain stupid. The trooper involved had a dash cam so that will be used to determine exactly what happend from his view point. It will display if he had his lights and siren on and also has sound so they can hear what was going on inside his vehicle. Prayers for everyone involved.

Bernie

January 3rd, 2012
10:16 am

May God be with you Mr. Porter and your family

Come on Man

January 3rd, 2012
10:17 am

Having the “right of way” doesn’t give you the right to plow in to someone. Sorry, but that is not the way it works. We yield to them but the emergency vehicle has an equal responsibility to exercise caution. What is the benefit when you cause and accident, kill someone while responding to an accident?

At the end of the day, a mother and wife was lost. So sorry for the family.

Susie Q

January 3rd, 2012
10:21 am

One day before this incident, I was stopped by TWO state troopers who used both lights and sirens to pull me over. A local cop then assisted them, and all three jumped out of their cars with their “show-me-your-hands” attitute…all because I had forgotten to put the sticker, which was in my glove compartment, on my tag. Sometimes law enforcement officials are too eager and ego-driven! Rest in peace, Mrs. Porter!

Billy

January 3rd, 2012
10:25 am

Penalties for trying to elude the police should be raised to such a severe level those that attempt it may think first. A vehicle becomes a deadly weapon in the hands of even the most experienced drivers. Eluders put so many lives at risk and cause property damage in their wake. Eluders need to have the book thrown at them and be used as an example and make eluding the horrible despicable act that it truly is.

Common Sense

January 3rd, 2012
10:29 am

Common sense says that if you have enough speed at the intersection of Capitol Avenue and Memorial Drive to cause a fatality collision you are beyond reckless. The officer is not fit to be driving . . . any vehicle. This event is unjustifiable, and it may well be homicide.
I know that blaming this misguided officer won’t bring Kathy back. However, it is a teachable moment. Bad judgement by a public safety officer cost an innocent life. If the officer’s actions were consistent with GSP policy, then that policy is flawed. And that means the entire GSP committed this homicide through implementation of a policy that exhibits a wanton disregard for human life.

ILOVETHEBRAVES

January 3rd, 2012
10:32 am

If you can’t send condolences, just go away. You’re so rude. Prayers to everyone involved.

Right of Way

January 3rd, 2012
10:32 am

The motorist who provoked the high speed chase by their willful violation of public safety laws is responsible for this death. If that motorist is found to be guilty of any felony related to the pursuit they must also be charged with felony murder in the death of Kathy Porter.

Sovereign Immunity

January 3rd, 2012
10:37 am

In order for the Porters to state a tort claim against the GSP they must first show that the officer was acting within the scope of his duties or that he acted outside the scope of his duties and that the GSP had prior knowledge of the risk that he might do so. Beyond that they must show that the officer acted negligently and that GSP was negligent in failing to prevent the officer’s actions.
In other words, the GSP will hide behind sovereign immunity even though it is obvious to anyone who cares to learn the facts that the officer’s actions were entirely inconsistent with reasonable safety standards.

IHATETHEGSP

January 3rd, 2012
10:40 am

This isn’t necessarily a condolence page; it’s a public comments section on a newspaper’s website.
If that is confusing to you, maybe you should apply for a job as a Georgia State Trooper. I hear they’re looking for your type.
Oh, and my condolences to the Porter family.

Billy

January 3rd, 2012
10:42 am

Condolences can be expressed and a guest book signed online by clicking this link. And can be found as the last sentence in this article

NotYou

January 3rd, 2012
10:44 am

Susie Q – What in the world does your traffic stop have to do with this incident or trooper? People get pulled over all the time. I’ve been pulled over several times by GSP and all had a great attitude and let me slide on stuff that local cops would not have. Does that mean all troopers are great? No. Your non-related “story” does nothing but demonstrate how easily you pass judgment.

Rhonda

January 3rd, 2012
10:47 am

Donald Crozier should be charged with murder. But, seeing that he’s an “LEO”, I’m sure no charges will be filed and he will be exonerated since the LEOs are “investigating” their own. My heart hurts for the Porter family.

NOT above the law

January 3rd, 2012
10:53 am

I’m glad to see all the people on here demanding accountability of the police in this incident, I wish more were skeptical of every case in which police are involved, especially when considering their testimony in a court of law. The police do not live by the same rules as they ask us to live and this should be changed, please write letters and make phone calls to your representatives to demand that this take place.
The article states that the trooper was treated at the hospital and released, this would not be the case were a citizen involved in a wreck of this nature, even if the citizen claimed they were rushing to the hospital due to an emergency. The citizen would have been arrested, charged, and had a (possible) bond set, then the court system would be the citizens chance to prove their innocence or guilt; the same should have been done in this case. Was the officer subjected to a blood or breath test to check if they had any drugs or alcohol in their system that could have caused impaired judgement? You can bet any one of us would have been, and if that test showed amphetamines (sinus medication) or opiates (painkillers, poppy seed bagels), we would be accused or driving under the influence and forced to prove our innocence (why yes, I do have a receipt from the deli for my poppy seed bagel with everything, but I don’t have the receipt from the drug store for my over the counter decongestant – guilty says the law!); the police should have the same standards applied to them. But guess what, in many states (not sure about Ga), the police officers union has rules that the police cannot be drug tested, how convenient for them.
I’m sick of the double standard and hope this trooper does jail time just like you or I would.

Rhonda

January 3rd, 2012
10:56 am

When a LEO is killed, THOUSANDS of their “brothers and sisters” attend the funeral to show the power of the State. It’s a shame that THOUSANDS of us can’t show up somewhere, line the streets, salute the fallen Kathy Porter, and show that WE WILL NOT CONTINUE TO PUT UP WITH THE SENSELESS MURDER OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS BY LEOs WHO ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO NO ONE.

sad sad sad

January 3rd, 2012
10:58 am

My heart hurts for the porter family,

Jeannie

January 3rd, 2012
10:59 am

My condolences to the family and prayers to the trooper. I think the fact that the family asked those touched by this tragedy to donate to Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta speaks volumes as what type of person she must have been. Loving and giving why don’t we honor her memory instead of making ourselves feel better with our meaningless opinions.

Shawn

January 3rd, 2012
11:03 am

Tim seriously if you knew the law then you would know that when your running lights and sireins you are asking for the right away. You cant drive 10 MHP over the speed limit and only 15 MHP over the speed limit on the interstate. I could see a rookie doing this trying to be GUNG HO. But a 10 year vet come on. Also why would a law officer try and catch a motorcycle and much more to assist in one. The only time your going to catch a motorcyle if if he wrecks. OR ITS IN THE MOVIES. SERIOUSLY TIM THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK !!!!!!!!!

Senseless Tragedy

January 3rd, 2012
11:07 am

I think Jeannie’s comment shows that she is exceptionally astute, caring, and above all, compassionate. Let’s all take a moment to reflect on what a keen observer Jeannie is. We are all blessed to have someone as intuitive and insightful as Jeannie with whom to share this message board. Even in the worst of situations, like the one that has tragically befallen the Porter family, at least we can comfort in knowing that individuals with the wisdom and grace of Jeannie are here to bring clarity and vision to this comments section.

Susie Q

January 3rd, 2012
11:08 am

Not You, you dumb idiot, the point I was making is that the GSP is all too eager to pick on people and seems to believe their badges place them above the law. Seems to me you’re just as eager to pass judgment! Get back to work!

Dear Shawn

January 3rd, 2012
11:10 am

All caps and gratuitous exclamation points do not conceal the fact that you write like a fifth grader. Please hold your imbecilic comments for a less sensitive subject.

Shawn

January 3rd, 2012
11:13 am

Dear Shawn,
It looks like I hit a nerve. You must be a law officer? Just telling the truth about what your Trooper did.

jj

January 3rd, 2012
11:17 am

Has an official statement been released as to what the chase was about?

Blkshepherd

January 3rd, 2012
11:24 am

Its a Tragedy any way you look at it. I almost had a police crusier Slam head on into thank god I just slammed on breaks as he narrowly wizzed by me. I was about to make a right turn when I heard sirens but didnt see anything. Something told me to just Stop. I did. And sure enough out of No where comes this police car making a sharp Left turn. Whenever I come to a blind intersecton I always pause and Look before I proceed even if I have the light. Yes Police officers need to practice a little more due care before rushing and top speeds during conjested traffic. Witness said they never heard sirens or saw any flashing lights. This is very very Possible as I have wittnessed this myself. No lights just patrol cars Speeding.

Dear Shawn

January 3rd, 2012
11:26 am

I’m not a law enforcement officer; actually, I don’t really care for them. You didn’t hit a nerve. That would suggest I have personal feelings about the matter, which I do not. I understand and respect that you were offering your opinion of the situation, and the truth is I tend to agree with what you wrote.
My point, though, was that your manner of writing strikes me as being lazy and immature.
I would ask that you consider re-posting your original comment; but this time, please take a moment to properly punctuate and proof read. It is the least you can do in this time of tragedy.
And remember, when you are discussing a comment that someone made in writing, you should refer to what they “wrote,” not to what they “said.”

Casual Observer

January 3rd, 2012
11:30 am

If anyone believes that lights and sirens would be effective safety tools when traveling through that part of town at a high enough rate of speed to cause a fatality collision, then they should apply for a job at the GSP. Apparently they have incredibly low standards of intelligence for their officers.

Ken Stallings

January 3rd, 2012
11:31 am

What a terrible development! Driving with your wife and children, following all the traffic laws, and wham! You get sideswiped by a police cruiser! I understand officers having to respond to a call for support, but standard police procedure is that even in a high speed chase you have to use extreme caution when approaching an intersection you would not normally have right-of-way, you have to ensure no one is in your way.

Hard to know exactly what happened not being there, and no question the officer himself is heartbroken over what happened. But he was responding to a routine traffic stop for — ironically — failure to yeild right of way. While the officer had lights and siren on, there was no distress call. A tragic error in judgment and let’s hope our police officers learn from this and increase their precautions.

diving duck

January 3rd, 2012
11:32 am

Men of average character who are given power. Cops are criminals.

anybody know a trooper to get a ticket?

January 3rd, 2012
11:32 am

My guess is the trooper was ACTUALLY responding to some elected official who needed a quick ride from his hotel to the GA Dome. We will never know, but that is typical for these LARGER THAN LIFE state troopers….

godoggo

January 3rd, 2012
11:35 am

I ditto many of “sparta_bubba” comments……and i whole heartedly pray for the family having lost my Mom by a drunk driver. But……..there is NO reason on Gods green Earth…..Why you should be having a high speed chase on an Interstate without a helocopter and then only with “due care”…….i could show you repeatedly where they lead to nothing but bad endings for all involved. Only with a helocopter can you control and maintatin the situation.

Are countless lives worth a couple speeding tickets ? If anything, the motorcyclist should be charged with an acces. in the death of Mrs. Porter.

Just sayin.

Billy

January 3rd, 2012
11:38 am

Prayers to Porter’s and all hurt. RIP Kathy!

I would hate for all you people who have already did your own investigation (are now ready to hang the Trooper) to be on my jury.
The camera in GSP car will tell the real story. Witness have different storys and I’m not taking up for either but 95% of you people bitching about speeding go down the interstate running 80 plus..When you have a problem WHO? do you call and you want them asp! You don’t have a clue what a person you’re (GSP) chasing will do. The officers put their life on the line every stop they make..Nothing will bring Kathy Porter back and the officer will never get over it…Judge not that you may also shall be judged…I pray for the family,friend,Officer and his family and all you people so quick to judge.

Sad Situation

January 3rd, 2012
11:41 am

NOT above the law….yes he had to take a blood test per state law and per DPS policy. Yes he can be charged if its determined he did something to violate the law. If it is determined that he didn’t use “due regard” and was at fault he will face department disciplinary action which can include firing and could face 2nd degree homicide as well per state law. Don’t judge a man until you’ve walked in his shoes so lets all wait until the facts come out and then make a rational judgement. I’m sure the tv and print media have already filed open records reports to get the trooper’s video as well as investigation report and notes.

Billy

January 3rd, 2012
11:43 am

11:32..I know many and for other reasons too.

JR

January 3rd, 2012
12:09 pm

I’m not going to comment on this specific case until I know all the facts.

However, whenever someone flees a police officer, not chasing them is not an option. If you have a “no-chase” rule, no criminal will ever be caught. Why would a criminal ever stop for police if they know the police won’t chase them? And frequently these “fleeing” criminals are a threat to public saftely whether they’re being chased or not.

That being said, there are certainly times when the police shouldn’t chase. There are times when chases should be ended. And there is no question that many police officers have a lot to learn about how to conduct a chase with mimimal risk to the general public. But criminals have to know that police can and will chase them if they flee.

Oh, to those who say “just get their plate number and pick them up at home”, could you please tell what color the sky is in your world.

GhostRider

January 3rd, 2012
12:13 pm

All I can say is this is very Sad…A family loses a loved one over a stupid Traffic Violation, I don’t get it.

jb

January 3rd, 2012
12:20 pm

just get their plate #…what if plates were stolen? go pick up wrong person? get a life!

Thanks JR

January 3rd, 2012
12:25 pm

Thanks JR for that comforting statement. You really know how to put things in perspective. Before your comment I am sure everyone was thinking that law enforcement should never pursue anyone on the highway, and no one ever considered that pursuit is a deterrent to evasion.
From your keen insight and deft use of cliches I can only assume you are an esteemed law enforcement officer.
Since you have been so generous with your time in explaining law enforcement policy and procedure to everyone, can you please tell us how anyone with half a brain would travel that fast in that area under any circumstances? We will all concede the fact that hot pursuit is generally reasonable.

messy jackson

January 3rd, 2012
12:53 pm

Joseph – “their cars are equipped with cameras that show when the lights and sirens are on so you can take your conspiracy theory down the road”.

How in the world can cameras pick up the sound of the sirens ???

lvdavis30281

January 3rd, 2012
1:03 pm

The terrible thing that people forget to realize is that when you hear the sirens or even see the lights blaring sometime you do not know from which direction it is coming unless you are facing the approaching vehicle with siren and lights blaring. The sirens give an echo affect in the air; for those who are not facing the vehicle with the emergency siren or lights on, their first response is to look around and see where it is coming from, by that time there is an car collision or impact. All depends if it happened at an intersection or not also. The wife was on the passenger side, so if Mr. Porter was coming off of an side street to make a turn that could have caused the problem also. In any event is is a sad, sad, sad fatal accident and I know that the Porter family and the State Trooper is shook up over this tragedy. People please be more sensitive to all parties involved. Tragic accidents do happen … have compassion for both sides. Have a great day, and lets pray for the survivors and everyone directly or indirectly involved. Be Blessed everyone. SHALOM!

jb

January 3rd, 2012
1:26 pm

Jackson..camera also records everything said and all sounds…to potect the all party’s.

jb

January 3rd, 2012
1:27 pm

protect all party’s..sorry

Will

January 3rd, 2012
1:28 pm

The trooper’s goal was to get to I-20, in reality, he didn’t make it, therefore there is a serious flaw in the procedure he was following in the execution of his duties. Obviously, lights and sirens mean nothing when you hit another vehicle. The streets in Atlanta are seriously congested; therefore emergency vehicles are going to have to seriously reduce their speed when going through intersections. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

Derek

January 3rd, 2012
1:44 pm

High speed pursuits of any kind are unwarranted and not necessary. In this case, a police officer did the crashing / killing; in most it’s the pursuee or perp. Either way another innocent victim goes to the morgue for no good reason. I lived in NYC for decades. We never had these kinds of incidents. Why? Because it is police dept. policy NOT to allow them for the results mentioned above. We now have radios and GPS systems to find out where people are going and where they live. Only down south are these Buford T. Justice types allowed to operate.

Cecil34

January 3rd, 2012
1:57 pm

My condolences to Mr. Porter and his family in this trying time.

RIP Kathy…..

Mr. Porter and his family in this trying time

January 3rd, 2012
2:13 pm

Thank you Cecil34. Without your support, I don’t know how we could go on. May you have a Blessed day.

SSS

January 3rd, 2012
2:17 pm

GSP – God’s Special Police as they call themselves…. Do stuff like this regularly… speed, text while driving, use their lights and sires as an excuse. Happens all the time. And most judges and public appointed individuals protect GSP. I hope this incident will cause this idea of “helping” the GSP to change.. They are foolhardy and reckless… Siren/lights on and off.

Shay

January 3rd, 2012
2:24 pm

My prayers go out to both families involved. It doesn’t matter now who was right or wrong, a life is lost and nothing will change that. May she rest in peace and we respect their privacy.

CarDawg10

January 3rd, 2012
2:28 pm

You know the cop was just going to be the 4th cop car to arrive for a motorist getting a speeding ticket or something. These cops pretend they are important and do it for the thrill. Not only do these lead-footed cops put innocent lives in danger, it wastes gas that the taxpayers pay for.

SSI Resident

January 3rd, 2012
2:34 pm

On Jekyll Island, GA, the GSP has a station, where the cops from there spend time catching speeders coming off the bridge to or from Jekyll. The speed limit changes dramatically, and they will stop you for a fraction over the limit. If they aren’t there, they are behind the desk doing paperwork. Why can’t they be on I-95 catching the real speeders and dangerous drivers? There have been several people killed on the Glynn County stretch of I-95, especially during the road construction.

CatLover

January 3rd, 2012
2:36 pm

Everyone take sides! If you are the caller in need of 911 and they are taking too long to get there, you are mad. If someone else has called for help and someone is injured as a result, you are mad. It’s a mad, mad, mad, mad world! A lovely lady has lost her life. Take down the fence between the “sides”.

ND

January 3rd, 2012
2:58 pm

The GSP was negligent so stop calling it an accident.

Timbo

January 3rd, 2012
3:07 pm

The officer was speeding on city streets to assist in a chase on I-20? What an idiot. This accident was totally unneccessary and preventable.

CJ

January 3rd, 2012
3:25 pm

Just two weeks ago, I saw law enforcement run a red light not stopping at all but had the sirens on. Next to me since we had the green light, one car suddenly stopped and that caused a four-car wreck with the last car being a tow truck. Additionally, I have seen cops put sirens on just to get thru traffic, run thru a red light, etc. and immediately turn the sirens off once he/she has made it thru an intersection and I have seen cop cars speed at high rates and drive erratically without sirens on. This type of abuse is inappropriate!

Bill Tetley

January 3rd, 2012
3:57 pm

Donald Crozier needs to be arrested and on trial for the murder of Mrs. Porter. I hope the Porter sues the pants of the GSP and the Crozier family. Crozier should never be allowed to walk the streets again as a free man. Arrest him now!

JB

January 3rd, 2012
4:07 pm

After reading most of the comments and stories of similar incidents, sounds like the GSP/ ATL police have created a bad image for themselves…..no ones fault but their own.

An inmate at a correctional facility

January 3rd, 2012
4:23 pm

Cops protect cops. Always have, always will.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Whether it is big business fighting any sort of regulation, the police, monopolies, pastors, husbands who feel that religion gives them absolute authority over their wives, parents who feel that their parenting should never be questioned, politicians who pass laws that they are exempt from obeying, teachers who feel that they are entitled to lifetime jobs, poor neighborhoods who feel that snitching means being a disloyal sellout……there is a huge need for regulation and accountability, in all walks of life…no matter the race, gender or economic status.

People who feel that the police should never be questioned or investigated…who feel that the police are all good people…are just plain blind to human reality. Temptation is a mofo…especially when one knows that they dont have to worry about being investigated, regulated or told on by his peers or those he’s responsible for.

I dont know what exactly happened during that chase. However, until the investigation is done…and subject to being verified by an independent, open entity….it’s too early to jump to any conclusion.

Steve [Bistritz]

January 3rd, 2012
4:31 pm

Most importantly, sincere condolences to the Porter family on Kathy Porter’s passing. I have not been able to stop thinking about this story since I initially saw it in the AJC. My heart goes out to Jeff, because it is obvious that he is a loving husband, just trying to treat his family to a Bowl game on New Year’s weekend.

Tim’s comment that an “Emergency vehicle has the right of way” is absolutely absurd and totally incorrect.

I used to be a volunteer paramedic and had to often drive an ambulance using red lights and sirens in emergency situations. We were taught defensive driving techniques and were especially directed that we had to make certain we could safely proceed through an intersection with a traffic-light. We were taught to approach those intersections slowly, making certain that it was safe for us to proceed through a “red light”, for example.

I can’t say what truly happened at this accident scene – but I know for certain that emergency vehicles don’t necessarily have the right of way – they have to “earn” the right of way, only after making certain it is safe to proceed..

Jason

January 3rd, 2012
4:34 pm

I want to know the Porter family has my prayers. May he find peace with his family. Also he is not alone. He as the family of the braves who have seem him over many many years. God Bless.

An inmate at a correctional facility

January 3rd, 2012
4:34 pm

If being a police officer is such an “honored” responsibility, then shouldnt only those individuals who can “honor” that responsibility by obeying the laws that they are SWORN to protect AS WELL as adhering to the police department rules of a high speed pursuit….be allowed to be police officers?

Good citizens can make one mistake that will cost them dearly. Police officers should not be exempt from the same cost. If anything, because of the responsibility they have….the price they pay should be greater than the average citizen.

It is wrong for one to expect police officers to enjoy the perks that come with the badge….yet exempt themselves from the drawbacks that come with the position. That’s like an athlete, actor or musician enjoying the perks that come with fame and celebrity…..yet complaining that they cant go shopping, enjoy a dinner or a movie without being bothered by fans wanting an autograph.

If you cant handle both the good and the bad….find another line of work.

An inmate at a correctional facility

January 3rd, 2012
4:46 pm

Given police abuse in the past and the subsequent coverups that have been rampant, all over the world throughout history…it is natural for some to assume the possibility that the police were at fault here. I said the “possibility”, not “for sure”.

That’s why an open investigation is important. Anything else will appear to be cops covering their own. Even if Porter himself was at fault…it wont matter because it will look shady.

An inmate at a correctional facility

January 3rd, 2012
5:02 pm

The bottom line is that a woman lost her life here. If this wasnt an accident (brakes failing, deer running into the path of either the cop or Porter…or something along those line)…then either the cop or Porter should PAY BIG TIME for what happened.

Either the cop violated high speed chase procedures…or Porter’s driving was negligent. Intent has nothing to do with this. The fact that Porter nor the cop wanted this to happen is irrelevant. Whether being a police officer or a regular driver…..one has responsibilities when driving, because other lives are in your hands if you make fatal mistakes behind the wheel. Driving is a privilege, not a right…just like being a police officer is.

Someone was at fault here. Someone has to pay, criminally, for this…and I’m not talking about taking the easy way out and solely blaming the person the cop was chasing for what happened. Just because some knucklehead was running away from the police….DOES NOT exempt either the police from obeying high speed chase procedures…..NOR Mr. Porter from obeying responsible traffic laws.

One of them should pay with the full extent of the law…should it be proven that this wasnt a pure accident, in the true sense of the word.

Braves Fan

January 3rd, 2012
5:21 pm

So badly I wish Jeff could’ve popped out of the driver door, jogged around the car, taken a look at Kathy, and then applied a band-aid, or some eyewash, or had her flex her arm and throw a couple of pitches while he stood to the side watching intently for any signs of pain, then leaned in for a private joke and a tender reassuring pat before jogging back to his place.
Learning that such a tragedy happened to someone I have grown up watching take care such good care of my heroes, I am truly saddened today.

Georgia State Patrol Spokesperson Wendell L. King, Jr.

January 3rd, 2012
5:32 pm

Preliminary results of a blood screen obtained from Mr. Porter at Grady Memorial Hospital approximately 35 minutes after the collision indicate that Mr. Porter had a blood alcohol content of 0.11cc by volume.

Rick

January 3rd, 2012
5:39 pm

Officer made an error of judgement. That means this is NOT an accident, it was a consequence of negligence. The Porters should sue the state for negligent manslaughter.

AnOldViolin

January 3rd, 2012
5:39 pm

Flashing Lights and Siren do not give the driver the right to run stop signs and red traffic lights ! It only request permission from others. As a former first responder and fire fighter, I was cautioned by my supervisors that I was to enter each intersection with caution and only proceed if it was clear, and told that if I ran a stop sign or traffic light and had an accident that I could be at fault. I wasn’t there, and I don’t know what the circumstances were, so that can be figured out by those who reconstruct the accident scene,,,,,But, please don’t assume because the lights were flashing and the siren sounding that the law allows someone to ignore these traffic signals….

AnOldViolin

January 3rd, 2012
5:44 pm

To the Porter family, I offer my sincere Sympathy and Prayers for them. We are taught not to question the reasons when things like this happen, so I will say only…..May God be with you in this great time of loss……

Choppinmama

January 3rd, 2012
5:45 pm

As Jeannie (fabulous name, btw!!) commented earlier, Bubba has been part of the Braves family for a long time. We all ache for their immediate and adopted family. This is a sad blow to the team and the entire organization.

Another sad, senseless tragedy that could have been avoided with some common sense. Crowded downtown streets, running a red light…………….

Maybe a few too many car chases watched recently. They don’t work out in real life like they do on the screen. People crash, are maimed and die.

ricardo Cabeza

January 3rd, 2012
5:58 pm

Tim, Sooooo WRONG!
Hooters!, Lighten up will ya?
To all,
Jeff Porter is a good man who has just had the love of his life ripped from him. The GSP Trooper is devastated. (and may be jobless soon) Please pray for everyone involved. Thanks.

Choppinmama

January 3rd, 2012
6:03 pm

Braves Fan: my thoughts exactly. If there was ever the right guy there at what, sadly, was not the right time, it was Jeff. No freeze spray fix this time. Poor guy, my heart is so sad.

Choppinmama

January 3rd, 2012
6:06 pm

Common Sense: isn’t it sad that this teachable moment came after such a tragic impetus? Important lessons learned from horrific disasters.

Bill Tetley

January 3rd, 2012
6:08 pm

Wendell L. King, do you have any proof to that statement or are you just making it up to protect your buddies’ hide?

Skeezix

January 3rd, 2012
6:16 pm

An awful tradegy for everyone involved. May God rest her soul and bless her family.

Donaldo

January 3rd, 2012
6:18 pm

An extremely sad story, 2 families adversely affected, there are no winners. We just need to support all involved and use this as a lesson.

Fan of the Game

January 3rd, 2012
6:25 pm

You know as a true fan you feel like you know people like Jeff Porter personally because you are with him with every televised game just about every night from April to October. You feel for him and his son. You feel like they are family. And then the trooper just has to feel terrible about this tragedy. The other night I was stopped by a State Trooper because my head light was out. My wife made a comment how dangerous a job that is because nowadays they don’t know what they are going to encounter anytime they walk up to a vehicle. I really feel bad for him and his family. We just have to remember that things happen for a reason and only God knows but our thoughts and prayers are with both families.

PO2313

January 3rd, 2012
6:38 pm

OK…blanket no pursuit policy once the tag # is obtained..come on. Put yourself in the thug’s shoes. You this and it will be worth the thug’s while EVERY time to run. The thus will not know if his tag has been obtained or not. He will NOT be looking in his rear view morror saying”oh..they are no longer behind me..I will drive safely now…”

What such a policy would ensure is that 90% of people who feel they have ANY reason to flee…will..they will NOT use the mindset of ..”well I had better pull over..they have my tag #. ” If they believe they have any chance they will run regardless. A no pursuit policy will ten-fold the number of fleeing vehicles on the road.

ike

January 3rd, 2012
6:46 pm

Shawn you do not have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. There is no state law that dictates how fast you go over the speed limit when on an emergency response… Each jurisdiction establishes that through policy and procedure… Check your facts.

Phils fan

January 3rd, 2012
6:55 pm

1st hermain cain’s presidential bid. and now this?? it’s too much..

Phils fan

January 3rd, 2012
6:59 pm

kidding aside, this a truly sad story. i wish only the best for this guy and his family.

Atlanta Academic

January 3rd, 2012
7:05 pm

The intersection of Memorial Drive and Capitol Avenue is massive. The design of the intersection itself may have contributed to the crash. I always cut over to Martin Luther King because I believe the intersection where the crash occurred is too large to be safe. It forces drivers to be committed to cross traffic for too long and the size allows for higher speeds with inadequate sight distance.

I assume that the SUV was traveling north on Capitol Avenue after exiting I 20 West and was turning left on Memorial while the Patrol car was traveling south on Capitol preparing to take the ramp to I 20 East. The SUV was probably committed to a lengthy turn and even with lights and sirens the Patrol car could not avoid the resultant crash due to the design of the intersection.

I drive on Peachtree Parkway in Peachtree Corners and always feel unsafe at the huge intersections with high speed limits. It is almost impossible to look both ways to see if it is safe to cross. Again the design of the road and intersections leads to hazardous driving conditions.

The intersection under Peachtree Industrial at Jimmy Carter is an example of one type of design that may work better. Left turns for both north and south ramps bypass without ever intersecting.

It is so sad

January 3rd, 2012
7:10 pm

Having lost my dad when I was 15 due to a car accident on New Year Eve, my heart goes out to the Porter family. It make every New Year difficult. Mr. Porter and family, my prayers are with you. Please try to stay strong and be there for each other.

Michael M.

January 3rd, 2012
8:19 pm

This is just one of those things that happen you never think would happen…..it just goes to show we never know when it is to be our time so always trust in doing the right thing and belief in God and no matter what happens here on Earth in the Material World know that one day we all will see the Spiritual World.
I have been through something like this several times in my life and each time was tough but with all the other family it always made it easier. Its just a sad and shocking tragedy that happen in a moment and sometimes its the way some of us leave from here to another life.
No sense pointing fingers or blame to someone else on here for that will be dealt with in another way. Prayers and thoughts to the Family and hope the Braves Organization surrounds them with love at this tragic time.

George

January 3rd, 2012
8:43 pm

The trooper was wrong according to the code:(b) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle or law enforcement vehicle may:

(1) Park or stand, irrespective of the provisions of this chapter;

(2) Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign, but only after slowing down as may be necessary for safe operation;

(3) Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he or she does not endanger life or property; and

(4) Disregard regulations governing direction of movement or turning in specified directions.

Bama Fan#2

January 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm

Sorry to hear about want happened to the Porter family.
We do not know all the facts yet so just pray for every
body involved in this terrible accident.

phil

January 3rd, 2012
8:55 pm

Tim
January 2nd, 2012
10:32 pm

Seriously Phil??? The trooper had lights and siren on. Emergency vehicle has the right of way. Terrible tragedy but don’t blame the trooper.

******

Yes, seriously. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Ask an audiologist a few questions based on the facts here and see if you don’t reconsider your rush to judgment.

Police chases have cost thousands of innocent people their lives over the years. It is an appalling and awful statistic. These chases are rarely justified but they make for good TV, right?

phil

January 3rd, 2012
9:00 pm

Sad for all involved
January 2nd, 2012
11:21 pm

My condolences to the Porter family. This is tragic and sad for ALL involved. I know the Trooper. He is a GOOD MAN. Don’t condemn him. This was an accident. With the obvious exception of the Porter family, I doubt anyone feels worse than he does. God be with everyone involved.

******

I’ll condemn him for you then. He and the stupid policies that allow this kind of driving.

phil

January 3rd, 2012
9:07 pm

SuperTrooper
January 3rd, 2012
7:19 am

Its just too bad that that the “Super Trooper” refused to yield at a red light and caused a death.
The BIG question is:
“Will he be held accountable and responsible for a vehicular homicide as any ordinary person would be charged with?”
Surely he is ’suffering’ with the guilt that he possibly feels now, but would he do it again?
According to the witnesses accounts, the trooper ran the red light. Blue lights or not does not relieve him of the responsibility to drive with care nor do the lights and siren give him carte blanche to violate laws all are supposed to held accountable for.
Thinking that he sould at least do probation and never work as a law enforcement officer due to his blantant disregard for human life.
All over a failure to yield….. PITIFUL.

******

Take it from one who knows…

They will fight this thing to the end. They always do.

The only hope the Porters have for justice is the high profile nature of this tragedy.

Georgia State Patrol Spokesperson Wendell L. King, Jr.

January 3rd, 2012
9:11 pm

Good point, Atlanta Academic. The intersection is exceptionally wide. It is especially dangerous to pedestrians.
Mr. Porter was in fact traveling north on Capitol Ave., but he stated that his intended route was to proceed north through the intersection and then west onto Martin Luther King Junior Blvd.
TFC Crozier was traveling west on Memorial Drive, and he stated that his intended route was to continue west on Memorial and then to enter I-20 westbound from Pryor Street. Preliminary estimates from tire skid measurements indicate that TFC Crozier’s cruiser was traveling westbound between 70 and 75 MPH in the eastbound lane of Memorial Drive immediately prior to the collision. The posted speed limit in that area is 35 MPH.
Also:
Please disregard my prior statement regarding Mr. Porter’s medical status (BAC). The statement contained errors and, for multiple reasons, was not appropriate for this forum.

phil

January 3rd, 2012
9:17 pm

Wendell, it appears that you are not appropriate for this forum if you came on here and said that about this man…

You should be ashamed of yourself.

And try using a real name instead of pretending to be somebody you aren’t.

phil

January 3rd, 2012
9:29 pm

I am Karen Santorum’s illegitimate down syndrome baby.

robert

January 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm

Wonder if this GSP trooper would have blown through this intersection if he had been on a motorcycle?

KEENAN BYRD

January 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm

IF YOU HANG A BADGE AND A GUN ON A PERSON IT SUDDENLY GIVES HIM OR HER ALL THE AUTHORITY IN THE WORLD..

Ted Sheckler

January 3rd, 2012
10:19 pm

phil, what a disgusting comment. You should be in prison with this state trooper. It is no wonder they say liberalism is a disease.

sports

January 3rd, 2012
11:15 pm

What a senseless death. This cop should be charged with vehicular homicide..flying through red lights at 80mph. Whether he is a rogue cop or not…no chase is worth a life…stupid.

Red Stick

January 4th, 2012
12:30 am

My condolences to the Porter family. This is tragic.

Unfortunately it takes a life lost and a family devastated to bring to light something that should not be happening and that’s cops driving like a bat out of hell. Too often I’ve seen cops driving nearly 100 mph and I’ve wondered is it really necessary.

Mitchell

January 4th, 2012
12:38 am

James

January 3rd, 2012
7:40 am

Something has to be done about the intelligence level of our police officers.

Yeah, good luck with that one.

Man, that’s terrible. What a shame.

Need to step up.

January 4th, 2012
9:10 am

Love riding into work behind troopers in the AM. I can go 30 miles over the speed limit and nobody cares.

Tim, a law official does NOT have the right of way through a intersection. He has to slow down and maintain safety at all times. He is also supose to throw his siren going though (with caution) at all times. Just watch firetrucks and ambulances at how they go though. That is the proper way. If this trooper blew through the light then he is at fault and regardless of his siren he will be at fault.

To the Porter family, may Gods arms hold you in this terrible time. My heart goes out to you.

fred

January 4th, 2012
9:44 am

Did any of you ever consider that Jeff might have been in the wrong. They could have been talking, laughing and had radio going and not heard the GSP…Who knows? Man you people are sick putting all blame on trooper without all detail. I for one appreciate all kinds of law officers. I was in a wreck and if they had not got there when they did and got me out of burning car before it burned up I would not be alive. These people are special and don’t deserve the hate. Wait and let the investigation learn the details.

A.B. Normal

January 4th, 2012
10:10 am

The trooper was attempting to join a chase already in progress?? The vehicle being chased was a MOTORCYCLE?!? Did he really think he was going to a) catch up to a MOTORCYCLE (probably a crotch-rocket) in a cop-sled, and b) be able to bring about a safe end to the chase? Really?? Sounds like GSP needs to review its criteria for engaging in chases, train its troopers appropriately, and hold them accountable for their choices. All law enforcement officers are responsible for using good judgement in every situation they encounter. The ability to do that comes from good training and experience.

Rick

January 4th, 2012
11:09 am

Did the guy they were chasing in the interstate git away… According to GSP that is the MOST critical issue.

Public safety. It’s like the wars in the middle east making America safer…. For who?

The safety and well being of Americans and Atlantans is the number one issue, without discussion. Chasing a car on the interstate while killing people is not public safety.

GSP policy and training should be changed because of this. Let’s see what ole Nate has to say about his.

Comp

January 4th, 2012
11:43 am

Shay
January 3rd, 2012
2:24 pm

My prayers go out to both families involved. It doesn’t matter now who was right or wrong, a life is lost and nothing will change that. May she rest in peace and we respect their privacy.
**************************************************************

That’s pretty funny, Shay. I would’ve thought that because a human life was lost that it would be especially important to determine “who was right or wrong.” Glad to see it’s no biggie after all. If the officer had run off the road and over someone’s pink flamingo, then the question of compensation could be raised, but since someone died, no reason to sweat the particulars. I like that.

phil

January 4th, 2012
12:23 pm

I heard Ted has a bad case of the Shecklers. Now that, my firends, is a disease you DO NOT WANT.

monty

January 4th, 2012
2:37 pm

Every year tradgedies like this happen to innocent motorist who are guilty of nothing, other than not being able to escape a speeding bullet of a car. Law enforcement officals have started scaling back on their chase scenarios for the protection of the public. Do police like chases? It would seem so, get the ole adrenaline pumping. But most of the time it is a very risky and unnecessary proposition unless an officer or a person is being attacked in some way. I live in a small sleepy town where you can drive from one end to the other in 10 minutes and not long ago I called 911 after hearing shots fired on my block one night. It took a patrol car 7 minutes to get here. If it had been a chase scenario they would have been here in under 2 minutes. Betcha!

how2fish

January 4th, 2012
3:09 pm

To the Porter family, I offer my sincere Sympathy and Prayers. May the Lord give you the strength to deal with this tragedy.

KSB

January 4th, 2012
7:52 pm

why is it that only a Few days ago A 82 year old woman hit a child in metro atlanta exiting a school bus. KILLING The Child and Minutes Later this 82 year old Woman was Booked and Charged with Vehicular Homicide’

When will The State Regarding Mrs. Porter Answer to these Happenings

Wierd !!!!!

01HAWK

January 4th, 2012
10:14 pm

Any encounters I have had with Police are that they feel that they are GOD…………………….And to not mess with them. They seem to think that they can say whatever they want to.

I have no respect for them and I never will.

Holier Than Thou

January 4th, 2012
11:10 pm

9 out of 10 Policemen would steal money out of A Church Offering Plate\

Reverie

January 5th, 2012
10:09 am

Wow, this conversation has turned seriously dark. I hope each of you that write with such conviction and authority can do so with a clear conscience and a peaceful heart. God bless Mrs. Porter and peace be with all the families touched by this tragedy.

Blanch

January 6th, 2012
2:18 pm

I have been in law enforcement for 30+ years. I have always been told that when an emergency vehicle enters an intersection, the driver of that police car, ambulance, etc., must use due regard and must, in essence, “ask” for the right to proceed through by making eye contact with each driver in the intersection. Before everyone gets all upset over this statement, it slows the officer down for just a few seconds and allows the other drivers to see the patrol car and hear the siren. Those few seconds can save lives, the officer’s and the citizen’s, and the officer can proceed on through safer than if he/she just “blew” through the intersection. If an officer does not arrive safely, he/she is not giving the help needed and causing more problems. There are many observations and opinions on this matter. It’s all how you train to drive your car. If you “over-drive” your ability or drive with your emotions (heart) and not your head, then trouble will follow. I’m just sayin…

Blanch

January 6th, 2012
2:27 pm

Oh, and one more thing. Regular folks drive like they have hot pepper up their 5th point of contact too, so I’m not hatin on GSP. Aggressive drivers are all over the place. 70 MPH on I-75 means 80 to 90 MPH + to most people. Take a moment and reflect on your own driving skills and emotions while driving before drinking “HATER-AID” on the police.

AvidReader

January 6th, 2012
3:11 pm

Police officers and ambulances do NOT automatically have the right of way when a light is red even if they have the lights and sirens on. They are supposed to WAIT for others to yield, not just go through a red light. The blame is solely on Crozier, not the Porters, not teh motorcycle the others were chasing. I am sure he feels horrible, and perhaps is a great officer, but Mrs. Porter is still deceased because of his negligence. And for what? To chase after a motorcyclist? Where is the common sense? I believe in second chances, but when a life is lost, a second chance is much harder to argue for.

rev555

January 6th, 2012
7:23 pm

what a tragedy—–no i am sure the GSP did not intend this at all. But just a thought—I met a GSP 2 days ago on a sharp curve running at a high rate of speed, ran off the highway, threw a gravel rock into my windshield and busted it. My passenger and I thought he was gonna lose control of the Gray Charger, had he, i would not be writing this today. A badge gives them no license to break the law just like my title gives me no license to sin—–but having said that, prayers for both the family and trooper involved.

Michael M.

January 6th, 2012
11:56 pm

Still up late night here and just read where the Trooper involved in the wreck was released or terminated today. It seems he has a history of wrecks with this being the ultimate one and I am very very sorry this has happen to family involved !

This was senseless to begin with around Atlanta streets and I feel like there will be more swift penalties than just a terminated officer. One other thing that made this so bad was it happen over the holiday weekend when they preach to us Citizens about safety on the road. I am just shaking my head over this one ,believe me I am.

Sometimes it is better to let the criminal go and try to get him another time or day ! I also notice and have been told about law enforcement hot rod around in these muscle souped up cars and turn on lights to keep from waiting on red lights, making u-turns right around in the public roads, pouring on the speed out on County two lane roads, among other things also.

If you are going to be our State Law Officers I feel you need to have at least enough respect for us not to run over us with these souped up muscle cars you have the honor of driving out of all our Tax dollars ! ! ! Yes I am mad about this but trying to show some compassion to those involved in the tragedy. I feel no pity towards this Officer because he let us all down when he lost respect for the many good People who drive those streets everyday and I bet you there had to be other Officers on that highway or closer around to where the response was needed than this Officer !

I sincerely hope the Family after some time has past seriously look into a lawsuit against the State on this one. Terminating this Officer proves without a shadow of a doubt the State was in the wrong on this one also ! I don’t want to see or hear about another Family being involved in something as careless as this was.

I am sincerely sorry to hear about this happening to a fine family and my familie’s heart and prayers go out to Jeff and his ! I and my family hope with time all this will heal for all of you !

To all the State Officers,County Sheriff’s Departments and Local City Police that the majority of us uphold with the most respect, please be wise and careful as to what you are doing out there and consider the consequences if something should go wrong ! The Laws you enforce are for you as well and you need to practice what you preach………………………

An inmate at a correctional facility

January 7th, 2012
7:04 pm

Ward, we have holes in left (Prado, even when healthy, isnt a power hitting left fielder), right (Heyward looks lost, unable to turn on the inside pitch, terrible at going back at balls hit right over his head), short stop (Pasturnicky reminds me of Pete Orr) and starting pitching (Hudson’s back, Hanson’s shoulder, Jurrjens’ knee…as well as the far from proven commodity that make up Minor, Teheran and co.) and third (at 40, who really believes that Chipper Jones is going to stay healthy).

We have a plethora of question marks and what ifs. Looks like a 4th place finish for us.

DENNIS ANDERSON

January 8th, 2012
12:59 am

Looks like a job for GRAAAVE DIGGGERR!

Braves Fan From Beantown

January 8th, 2012
7:31 pm

I grew up watching Jeff Porter in the clubhouse. To me, he was always just as much a Brave as Glavine, Maddux, Cox, Smoltz, and the rest. I’m shocked and horrified to read about this accident. My thoughts are with him and his family.

Michelle

January 9th, 2012
11:57 am

Very saddened to hear of another senseless tragedy due to police not taking public safety into consideration during high speed chases in downtown busy areas. I was the victim in a crash with a police car practicing “silent running”. The cruiser had no sirens but lights on and traveling at a very high speed in downtown Atlanta. I was driving in a 30mph zone and it was estimated that the police car (who was answering a burglary call) was traveling in excess of 75 mph. The back of my wagon was torn off and the rear axle flew 30 feet from my car.Basically my car exploded. The police car was unrecognizable. Luckily myself, my companion and the officer didn’t sustain life threatening injuries but one of my precious dogs was killed and the other is now handicapped so i live with this everyday. The police car was traveling so fast I didn’t see him until he hit my car and this was in a neighborhood by a park! The witness that testified in my favor in a trial 4 years later (who was a police officer who witnessed the crash) stated that not using sirens is a common practice though it is against code. I fought the city for 4 years to make a statement that this kind of practice is wrong and to try to gain awareness. These type of crashes happen ALOT in the city and the police really need to be held accountable. It’s heartbreaking to hear that this has cost another life. Prayers for the Porter family.

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