5:40 pm December 22, 2011, by David O'Brien
December 29th, 201110:04 am
GM Wrenn and Braves are committed to built through Draft and Development. Okay. Stick to the plan. l would like to see a shift in draft strategy. Rounds 1, 2, and 3 should be committed to Best All Around Athletes. Shortstops, Centerfielders who can HIT, and have 4 more tools. Then draft all the pitchers you want. Rotate 3 to 4 rookies in per year, Braves turn roster over every 6 to 8 years. Players that are going to help us win the World Championship we keep, if a player does not produce under pressure, sorry trade them for multiple players if possible and move on. No charity and no team building for other teams aka Texas Rangers.
December 29th, 201110:19 am
It amazes me how one can ALWAYS find the fair weathered trash fans running their little poddy mouths on this blog. The lot of you have no idea what you are saying. You research no further than the ajc articles. You also predict the future for the team you supposidly follow. Will you reverse your uneducated oppinions if the braves win the east? That’s rhetorical BTW. Wren has done his job very professionaly and intuitively for years. Do the team and the organization a favor for 2012…DON’T SHOW UP. It must be hard to play for a city who lacks the real meaning of being a fan. Maybe it starts with you or maybe it doesnt, but there’s one thing for certain…the braves have the best young pitching in baseball, the best hitting catcher, second basemen, the best rising first basemen, and a manager that will always give his team the best chance to win. You demand to much for any team. You scream for a world championship and trades so we can keep up with the Phillies, but if you knew anything about the game of baseball then you’d know that world championships are won by teams and cities who truly believe in themselves and eachother and that will themselves to victory wanting it more than the other guy. There are no short cuts and blowing the organizations money on guys who you think are the quick solution is just ignorant. Its pathetic how you so called “fans” quickly forget to remember that Atlanta won thus division for 14 years and most years with A LOT LESS than what we have right now.hell I wouldn’t want to play for this crappy town. The braves aren’t just atlantas team in case you forgot that too.
December 29th, 201110:22 am
Coco & Bourn at the top of the order is better than what we have, and could be
devastating to the opposition.
Prado was an AllStar secondbaseman and playing out of position in LF
isn’t good for his psyche, & obviously impacted his offense. I’d rather have
Prado on second and Uggla on third or off the team completely !
December 29th, 201110:28 am
Good point Skipper. It might work a year here and a year there, but it doesn’t work every year like the fans elude to. Look at the Phillies and Yankees. Best teams money can buy and even they can’t win the world series consistently. Reality is that the odds are extremely high for any club. People all to often forget how the game actually is won ON THE FIELD, not in the general managers office.
December 29th, 201110:37 am
Get over it Bobby Cox wannabee, there is such a thing as the first ammendment & people can write what they want within the guidelines.
Most of the nay sayers have it pretty much right, & if you want to let them off the hook for September, go on ahead but I and others are not.
I understand Wren’s position, he is not in a position to do a heck of alot this winter. I don’t like it but it is what it is.
I do not care if you are a Kool-Aid drinking apoloogist or an antagonistic pessimist, I do encourage everyone to go out and attend a game regardless. Telling people to stay home solves nothing. Boycotting solves nothing. Boycotting gets your team moved, re: Thrashers.
Get out and enjoy MLB regardless of whether you want to Boo or cheer this team. Hey, if we could get another 500,000 at the gate, just maybe, just maybe we would give the corporate shirts a reason to have a change of heart and spend a few more $$$$$$.
You do not have to love how the team is run to support it. And as a fan, there is a place in watching the other team make plays even if you do not win.
This team has had 2 bad Septembers in a row, so they might do well for 2/3 of the year and fade at the end….again. That is what I expect for now.
December 29th, 201110:39 am
How much would it cost for Coco Crisp? Not a bad player, pretty good OF and OBP, some speed, limited power, but servicable.
Had missed time due to injuries in the past.
Would not want to pay $5 mil. Maybe in the $2.5 to 3 range if it could be done.
December 29th, 201112:14 pm
The only reason I could go along with Crisp is he could take Bourn’s place next year because there is now way the Braves managment will over pay Boros for him.
Again don’t trade Prado he is too valuable. I’m looking forward or should I say I’m hoping he will have a injury free season and get back to his normal great self like his seasons of 2008,2009 and 2010.
December 29th, 201112:28 pm
I would say its a safe gamble that Martin reverts back to the .800 OPS guy he was three yrs running.
I would like to see him as part of the big picture here, but do not know if he will fit in the budget. A team like Philly would probably fit him in the long term plans.
My thinking is they want a CF prospect like a Cain or Blackmon in a part of the return for a deal, they are mid 20’s and MLB ready. Will they be good, we do not know.
I might rather even have that then Crisp, who has been an injury risk. Gives some SB speed and D though.
December 29th, 201112:31 pm
Bobby Cox when you call others uneducated learn to spell first.
Staying home from games only hurts MLB more..go and watch both teams and enjoy.
Coco would bring some excitement to team. Bourn 66 steals and CC with 49 sb would put pressure on other teams pitchers, etc.
Happy New Year everyone! Go Braves.
December 29th, 20111:11 pm
We don’t like all that speed. We like .240 (or below) sluggers thast swing for the fences. That’s the wisdom Bobby Cox left young grasshopper, in addition to over-utilizing the bullpen and pulling pitchers at the wrong time …
December 29th, 20111:15 pm
Did I read this right, “The Mets swapped center fielders with San Francisco, getting Andres Thomas”? Yeah without any changes, it’s gonna be like going back in time, except without Commy Ted, the new regime won’t spend a dime! GO BRAVES or Go North!
December 29th, 20112:25 pm
December 29th, 20112:27 pm
Bobby Cox: You need to learn how to spell and write.
December 29th, 20113:22 pm
Yeah, that Andres Thomas is gonna be a super star !
December 29th, 20115:42 pm
Baltimore baby, we won 108-54 and WS in 1970..just call me 2 pack. Whats the Braves waiting on?
December 30th, 20118:01 am
If the Nationals end up with Prince Fielder as some of the rumblings have suggested, they will leapfrog the Braves in the division. I’m not much worried about the Mets. What I am seeing that I don’t like is that Atlanta is becoming the Oakland A’s of the east. They build through the draft and player development, then have to flip their players to other organizations for prospects because they become cash strapped. If what I heard DOB state about why Atlanta hasn’t gone after free agents after players like Derek Lowe, KK and Nate McLouth came off the books is true, that’s basically what is about to happen. If they are going to get better, they have to either keep their homegrown talent and deal for marginal players to fill out the roster or start flipping players as is the case with Jair Jurggens and Martin Prado.
December 30th, 20119:55 am
Losers & always will be…
December 30th, 201110:02 am
Alright I really don’t us moving Prado, specially for someone like Seth Smith. I don’t think Prado is the guy who made the All-Stars in 2010, but he is a solid player who can take over 3rd for the next 10 years. Jurrjens needs to be moved though. At some point we have to say goodbye to some of our starters to open up spots for our talented prospects. Also all signs point to Jurrjens not keeping up his ERA. Look at all the metrics and he should be a high 3s guy. Trade him now bc with his agent we will be priced out either way. I’m sick of us hanging on and not getting anything in return for our guys. Hopefully we can trade him for a viable LF bat because we need some power infused into our lineup.
December 30th, 201110:13 am
I only paid out $30 million for Lowe, Kawakami & McLouth in 2011. We know how they performed !
If Mark Cuban would only buy the Braves and give me a budget I can work with. Just think of the money I could squander then !
Happy New Years Braves fans !
Spring training is just a few weeks away !
Buy some season tickets !
Obama says the economy is getting better !
December 30th, 201110:39 am
Ok I was just reading some of the comments on Diaz. Saying he was a bum and shouldn’t have even made a MLB roster? Don’t know what everyone is smoking, but when a guy hits over .400 against lefties that’s pretty solid. He was cheap and a platoon player who had a down year, but the guy had some great years with Atlanta.
I’m sick of all of our fair weather fans. If you guys want the team to go get the big time FA, buy tickets to the games. We are transient city, so there aren’t as many life long braves fans as cardinals and phillies. If we support the club with ticket sales, they can afford more players. I actually blame the ATL traffic over transient city. It’s hard to sit in 1.5 hr traffic after an 8-10 hr day to sit in 85 deg 80% humidity.
Season ticket holder
December 30th, 201112:14 pm
“I actually blame the ATL traffic over transient city. It’s hard to sit in 1.5 hr traffic after an 8-10 hr day to sit in 85 deg 80% humidity.”
Atlanta traffic didn’t impact attendance back in the 90s when the Braves put out a consistent, winning & exciting product on the field, unlike now. Put some blame on the GM for blowing a third of last season’s payroll on unproductive players.
Humidity? Try going to a game in St. Louis, Arlington or Cincinnati in July or August.
December 30th, 201112:42 pm
Traffic is an issue for some people. It depends on where they live. It is miserable driving up 85, worse than ever now thanks to the DOT, the feds, etc. Our traffic engineers messed that up.
Also note that in August, the kids start school earlier than in some other parts of the country.
The Braves seem to do better on Friday and Saturday night games & Sunday afternoon games.
I do not have the exact figures in front of me, but they seem to draw well on the aforementioned dates.
The humidity did not bother me 20, 25 yrs ago, but it does more so now. Hey, when you get older you get older.
They have to find a way to get another half million paying customers in there, how I do not know, but its a challenge to the marketing dept. A better team would help, but I think this team is 2 yrs away from the post season–too much reliance on the kid starters this yr
December 30th, 201112:44 pm
ATL traffic is acturlly worse now than it was in the 90’s. Overgrown metro area and not a large inner city population base.
December 30th, 20111:07 pm
“ATL traffic is acturlly worse now than it was in the 90’s. Overgrown metro area and not a large inner city population base.”
With the possible exception of I-85 in Gwinnett, metro ATL has actually lost population in recent years and the traffic during rush hour is not nearly as bad, especially in this economy with fewer people working & driving.
As for Atlanta’s inner city population base, the actual population of the city of Atlanta proper has remained quite steady in the past 20 years.
A couple of legitimate sluggers in the lineup would do wonders for attendance. Once Chipper and his salary & nagging injuries are gone, I suspect the Braves will do something. They can’t build a starting lineup around .232 hitting Uggla ; or McCann who should be DHing or playing first; or Heyward who might have been overrated coming up.
December 30th, 20111:09 pm
If Prince Fielder goes to the Nationals as is predicted in some circles, the Braves will be a 4th place team in the NL East. The Nats have young, aggressive players with more on the way.
December 30th, 20111:50 pm
ATL’s inner city population is still small in comparison to some cities like the top payroll teams like Philly, NY, and Boston still has roughly 600,000 people (my guess).
We have what, around 400 to 425 K.
A long post season run would do wonders. And it would help is Jey-Hey would develop into the local raised superstar. The potential is still there, I ain’t giving up on him. A little personality on the team would help too.
People loved those teams in the early 90’s when there was Deion, Justice, Gant, the young pitching, etc. They could beat you in a lot of ways and they were a more fun and exciting bunch than the more corporate Chippers, Javy’s and the personality of the teams that followed always seemed to lack some little something.
That bunch should have won two of three WS, you just get a bit of a half enpty glass in looking at hat could have been and their place in history.
December 30th, 20112:10 pm
Interesting angle referring to the traffic, humidity and the growth of inner city Atlanta, but those factors may contribute to maybe less than 1% of fan participation. Its true Atlanta fans got somewhat complacent thinking the run of the 90’s would go on forever…….when I snap my fingers you will wake up! Wait! before I snap my fingers think back how effective the Braves were moving runners over (especially the pitchers) the last 3 or 4 years? What about just hitting a sacrifice fly with the bases loaded? Hitting behind the runners? Pitching going into the 7th inning? Executing in certain situations is vital to winning games. Now I will snap my fingers and you can answer these questions for yourself. Sometimes the obvious is right in front of us.
December 30th, 20113:04 pm
Stadium is a hassle to get to, no subway..Somebody got the parking rights and the fans get shafted,….. Traffic is terrible, except for dc before the “mixing bowl” was finished , the traffic is much worse than many cities
December 30th, 20114:18 pm
Another variable has been the growth of other sports like NASCAR, X games and other interests other than baseball that has attracted the younger generations.
As a baby boomer from the N-East, I was reared on MLB, NFL, NHL and NBA. College Football is king here.
Could care less about NASCAR, HS, WNBA, X games, poker and the other stuff that has popped up recently. MLB is growing, but this city is not an MLB first town.
Sales & Marketing experts have to figure this out. Maybe some of you do it for a living.
December 30th, 20116:00 pm
SeligMG said @ 10:39
Prado is a solid player that could take over 3rd for next 10 years.
Lol! ten years? what you smoking?
December 30th, 201111:26 pm
“If they are going to get better, they have to either keep their homegrown talent and deal for marginal players to fill out the roster or start flipping players as is the case with Jair Jurggens and Martin Prado.”
TeheranTime: None of what you said explains the Braves signing Dan Uggla to a Chipper-contract, now does it?
The Braves collapsed in historic fashion, then proceeded to fire their two major league shortstops in favor of a completely untested rookie with marginal potential. Everyone is waiting for Chipper to come off the books but instead Uggla’s contract extends the pain. This is a team headed South – in the standings. It may take the rest of the decade to recover.
December 31st, 201110:09 am
The Braves have been going out and signing older players to big contracts. Then those players have came to Atlanta and done nothing more than take up a roster spot and suck up money. The Braves have a great farm system with a lot of talent. It is well past time for the Braves to shed these guys and bring up the young talent. So yes when you look at who they let go and the guys they will bring up, they will be better.
December 31st, 201110:13 am
My hunch of a guess is that 2014 is the year we might see a return to where we were.
The kid pitchers will have soe of their learning curve under their belt. Heyward, Hanson and Freeman should hit their prime and Mc Cann and Uggla should still be good.
Pastornicky should be a pretty decent player by then. Maybe we will be rid of Liberty by then, lots can happen.
It could be a nice run of a few yrs by mid decade, but things have to be done right & you have to decide what you want to do with Mc Cann long term.
Kimbrall and venters should be in their prime.
It can happen again if things are done right, but not in 2012 and maybe not even 13. It is a sei-rebuild. But not a trip to the bottim rebuild.
December 31st, 201112:17 pm
Once again you are an idiot if you don’t think the Marlins have gotten better. Stop defending the Braves lack of action so far. As they are currently built and the improvement of the other teams in the division the Brave will end up no higher than 3rd place.
December 31st, 20111:01 pm
Things I love:
- .230 hitters
- signing ‘over the hill’ players to long term contracts for millions
- paying millions of dollars to unproven Japanese pitchers
- twiddling my thumbs
- drinking juicy juice and eating twinkies
- finishing in third or fourth place
December 31st, 20111:33 pm
I saw to sweeten the pot for the Rockies to give up one of there CF why not offer another big prospects like Mycal Jones or Edward Salcedo to get either Blackmon or Fowler
December 31st, 20112:16 pm
Why don’t the Braves even try to make their team better? The San Diego Padres are known to be cash strapped and have acquired Carlos Quentin. Doesn’t he fit the bill for what the Braves need? Left fielder, power. They got him for two- that’s two- prospects. Atlanta and Frank Wren aren’t going to do anything to make this team better.
December 31st, 20112:17 pm
I say the Braves finish behind the Phillies, Nats and Marlins this year.
December 31st, 20112:21 pm
@12:17 that also is true for Nationals. Fish and Nationals will be alot better than last year and as good are better than Braves. Bet on it. Pitching don’t win without runs..got to score!
December 31st, 20114:13 pm
Disgusted @10:13am Like JJ don’t count on Hanson much longer because he has Boros for his agent and the Braves will not over pay for him, and rightly so.
December 31st, 20114:42 pm
didnt you know? Wren “likes his team” LOL!!!
Scott from Fairburn
December 31st, 20115:54 pm
The Padres picked up Quentin for a bag of donuts and a gallon of juice. jeez
December 31st, 20117:20 pm
Tired of the frank wren kool-aid drinkers. Everybody loves to beat up liberty media. Wren spent $50 million on Lowe, $24 million on kawakami, and $17 on McLouth (don’t care that the contract came with him). Throw in one year of chipper’s salary and that’s a whole years payroll. To those who say you can’t compete without the huge payroll; last season the red sox missed the playoffs, the yanks and phils had an early exit, and the rays and diamondbacks both went to the playoffs with combined payrolls about equal to the braves. If I got as little value for my company’s money as wren has for liberty, I would be looking for a new job. He did manage to finally get fresh chopped onions at the regular hot dog stands which was nice after having to argue with the vendors about getting some onions on the regular hot dog at the “gourmet” hot dog stand. Between the surly ushers, experiences like the one just described, and a bunch of sleep walkers on the field the decision to renew or not renew my 4 full season season tickets was an easy one.
December 31st, 20118:14 pm
bobbymahlon—yea, I was notthinking about the Borass factor on Hanson. But if Hanson really breaks out, there is no way the Braves cannot seriously extend him without getting a severe backlash.
And who knows, in two more yrs, Liberty could be outta here.
I like JJ too but I see him moved this off season, its a $$$$$$ thing. And he will not be moved for current MLB talent, it will be a prospect and a cheap role player. Just my hunch.
They are adding zilch to the roll this yr.
December 31st, 201110:44 pm
The Nats don’t have to sign Fielder to move past the Braves in the division, they have that handled already. I see the Braves finishing no better than 4th in the division this year, which is exactly why I am not wasting the money on the baseball package to watch them fail again.
When the Braves organization shows that they are committed to winning, I will then start watching them again. In this day and age, I have better things to spend money on than the underachieving Atlanta Braves.
December 31st, 201111:11 pm
So sorry to hear about Jeff Porter’s wife being killed today in wreck., Hope his son and Jeff are ok..My prays are for the family of Jeff and the GSP that was also in the wreck..RIP..Man it makes you sick to hear about this..you just never know.
January 1st, 20123:52 am
One word answer to the question you posed.Yes This team can not score enough runs.Philly,florida and new York can.Why is this so ,because they spend more on good players.
Sweet Old Buck
January 1st, 201212:47 pm
Now Quentin is gone. Who’s left? Oh, yeah! Nick Swisher. Be patient, Frank, something will work out. It better, or the Braves are a non-entity in 2012. Happy New Year!
January 1st, 201212:59 pm
the Braves has lost little ground. not much but just enough to not make the playoffs. we havent upgraded anywhere. the bullpen is good, but needs another good reliver so we wont wear down Jonny V and Meldon. Kimbrell should be better after a great season, so the bullpen is one of my least worries. the starting staff isnt really a big worry either. health will be the only issue.. catcher we have no worries, 3rd base we just need to find a guy for the future and hope chipper has a good/healthy season.. shortstop we are screwed so far. if patstomsky(however u spell his name) if he can pull a Furcal and play good his rookie season then hell yeh! but i dont see that happening. second base dan uggla, just doesnt need to have a start like how he did last season. first base, freddie will only get better, i see a gold glove in the future. maybe 25-30hr next season, hopefully he will rack in more RBI’s. the outfield we need to resign Bourne, Maybe the reason why the braves havent signed anyone this offseason is because they are saving the money for him. right field Heyward needs to man up and play to his potential. left field, Prado needs to hit for average and play how he did a season ago, and Castanza needs to somehow get some playing time. the guy is good! not sure why Fredi G took him out at the end of the season.
January 1st, 20124:59 pm
Andruw just re-signed with the Yankees. His OPS last year was over .800. Good RISP averages. How many braves hitters can match that? For $2 million, he could have helped the 2012 Braves a lot. What in blazes is Braves’ management doing?
January 1st, 20126:56 pm
What in the blazes is Braves management doing? ?????
They are trying not to spend $$$$$ that is what they are doing.
At least the Red Sox for all their issues and choke at the end have made a couple of moves to try to get better. The Braves continue to do zilch. And no one in the FO faces any kind of accountability for sure.
I do not think that Andruw is the answer, but point is they are not trying to get better.
January 1st, 20126:59 pm
I kinda hope that the Nats do sign Fielder, hey, he will be fun to watch within the division.
The Braves are going to lose anyway as long as Liberty is around, so might as well watch good guys on the other team.
I would rather see the Nats get the WC instead of the Fish. Would like they compete with Philly.
Lee in S GA
January 1st, 20128:26 pm
Guthro…I agree ..i was kinda hoping they would sign Jones…oh well…maybe by spring training they will surprise all of us
January 1st, 20129:06 pm
Hey DOB! When are you ever gonna write again?? Do you get to screw off all holiday figuring out which CD’s you’re taking to spring training?? Nice gig.
Does the AJC still pay you for doing NOTHING?????
Thank Liberty that we still have Carroll Rogers…
January 1st, 201211:21 pm
Hey Salespro! Two things: 1. Sounds like you really miss me; and 2. You really must not be much of a salespro if you’re not familiar with the concept of a full week of vacation. Sounds like you might need a new “gig.” (By the way, if you’re thankful to have Carroll, then why so concerned about my return?)
January 2nd, 20122:10 am
Just want to say I was saddened to hear about the accident involving Jeff Porter’s family. My condolences and prayers go out for Jeff and his family in the wake of the loss of his wife Kathy; I hope he and his son have a speedy recovery from whatever injuries they sustained.
January 2nd, 201210:11 am
Same feelings here extremus, it puts it into perspective on what is really important.
January 2nd, 201211:54 am
Braves will move backward if they trade JJ and Prado. The Braves can compete with what they have now. At the end of the day, pitching wins games. And the Braves rotation with a healthy JJ and without Lowe, can flat out deal. The reason the Braves are hamstrung and may be entertaining offers for JJ and Prado, is because Chipper came back when many of us felt, and thought Chipper would hang em up. Chipper is one of my favorite Braves, with only Maddux and Justice ahead of him. He has some left in the tank, no doubt about that, however the team has Prado in LF, when he should be at 3rd. Team can’t move forward. Finding a power hitting LF/OF is heck of a lot easier having Prado at 3rd, where he is an infielder at heart. And it probably would have allowed Wren to be even more creative with trade possibilities.
January 2nd, 201212:11 pm
The Braves might compete with what they have now, but you have to take into account that this is two Septembers in a row where they were a bad team.
Moving JJ and or Prado for prospects puts them in a worse place.
They already fall short, why make things worse unless its all about saving $$$$$$.
January 2nd, 201212:28 pm
Braves had injuries to key personnel in those Septembers as well. You won’t be healthy all year however when you get injuries is just as important. In 2010, we didn’t have JJ, Chipper, Medlen or Prado, plus Lee was a mess as well. In 2011, we didn’t have JJ, Hanson- our 1 and 2 starters in the rotation. Prado was dinged up, lost Gonzalez the week of the year and McCann’s power was zapped from coming back from the oblique too early. Those are key guys that would prevent any team from competing a division, let alone a WS. With 40 million coming off after this season, the Braves are better off standing pat on signings. Trading for Jones or Fowler makes sense, even more so, if they re-sign Bourn like I want them to.
January 3rd, 20121:15 am
When you make a $100 a week, you can’t spend $200 a week. Wren has done an outstanding job in my opinion. His hands are tied to a degree, the Braves pockets unlike some organizations are not unlimited. For his budget, he’s putting a decent contending team on the field. Remember, especially in today’s game. You get what you PAY for!
January 3rd, 20125:17 pm
Wren’s hands are tied?
Wren tied up $30 million for Kawakami, Lowe & McLouth in 2011.
Wren tied up Uggla (.232 average) and a bunch of solo homers for how many yerars?
Wren should be tied up, tarred & feathered & run out of town !
January 5th, 20124:21 pm
Wren as usual was asleep at the switch when Chicago Sox peddled Carlos Quentin for cash. He plays RF & LF and probably play Center if needed. His stats for last year were not anything to write home about, but were equal to or better than what we have now……77 RBI….24 HRS and .254 BA along with 9 steals. NO TRADE WAS WANTED…..JUST CASH.
WAKE UP FRANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 20125:53 pm
Do we have a great GM or what? Every other club in the division betters themselves, while the Braves remain pat. GO FUMBLING FRANK WREN.
January 6th, 201211:17 am
Just in case you missed it… http://espn.go.com/newyork/conversations/_/id/7429623/the-city-atlanta-worst-sports-town-america
Rob Parker blast our city of Atlanta and the fans of our HAWKS, FALCONS and BRAVES. Also Rob Parker implied black people would rather eat pork than watch the Falcons and white people would rather pick peaches.
Check out the article. Very disrespectful of the city and and us fans. Check it out and give him a piece of your mind. Rise UP Falcons, Braves and Hawks Fans…Spread he word. Tweet him your thoughts.
January 6th, 201211:33 am
You can bet the Phillies will miss Howard, but it will not slow them down. With the additions the Marlins have made you can bet they will be strong also. The Nationals….with Davey Johnson at the helm and the players they will have in place thi year they will be strong along with the Marlins. I look for the Braves to be competitive, but with the three teams mentioned, I believe the Braves will be lucky if they finish higher than 4th.
January 6th, 20121:02 pm
The Braves were and are a mediocre group at best. Pitching kept them alive til Sep and then fatigue and managerial mistakes (staying with Lowe, overusing Kimbrel and Venters, underutilizing EOF, etc) put hem in their place. With this manager and this GM I expect the same for the next year. Hope springs eternal in the young arms, however, if they are not overused and worn out. I wish FG would consult a sports othopodic physician and a sports psychologist; since I am sure he will not and will mismanage again, expect the Braves to finish 4th in the division. Look for them to do reasonably well again until late August, then fade again. When will the fans get fed up?
January 7th, 20124:09 pm
2012 NL East final standings…..
January 7th, 20126:15 pm
Funny article by Rob Parker. He clearly knows squat about so called GREAT NY fans… 95% of people here couldnt give a sheet about the Giants or the stinking Jets. My friends here never talk NFL footy, rarely talk baseball outside of the Yankes and think the Knicks are whiny loser dogs…as for the Mets, I see as many Braves caps here as the loser mutts’ caps… Now compare that to New Orleans where I recently was and the WHOLE CITY is decked out in Saints gear all weekend for all the games… now they are fanatics
As for the ATL, wasn’t this a city very badly damaged by the housing collapse and reading double digit unemployment, at last recall, there was no huge bailouts down there as most major banks are HQ in SF or NY etc
January 8th, 20126:32 pm
Only a damn idiot would say the Braves haven’t lost ground in the NL East!
January 9th, 20124:58 pm
ok the atl is what you call meltdown city, even the braves offseason is a meltdown, as well as the falcon playoff game was a meltdown almost like the braves off season, owait mabey not a meltdown because they didn’t do anything in the game. Love the energy here people fired up for mediocrity. Everything rises & falls on leadership. Ownership can give a dang & not care about winning, so can uncle fw & da bed pan brass. Askin’ to see if they can go after big thumpers, nah, they either cost a little too much or they been hurt alot. How about Ryan ludwick? nah,nah,nah we like our mediocreteam. slip slide away,slip slide away, we want to go w/ what we got so slip slide away(lower & lower in our blessed division. Thanks for bringing hope to the mediocrity atl uncle fw, ur the greatest.
January 11th, 20129:23 am
The Braves haven’t lost any ground in the NL East, they just haven’t gained any.
January 11th, 20127:27 pm
I am still learning about ZUmba but so far I love what I see!
January 12th, 20121:43 pm
The tortoise caught the hare because the hare felt it was in good enough shape to stand still.
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January 12th, 20123:01 pm
Looks like Frank Wren is still sitting on his lazy arse and doing nothing to get us a back up shortstop and a right handed bat.He farts around and nothing gets done.He could have gotten us Luke Scott but he stayed on his lazy arese and did nothing.Cody Ross still available and Frank is gonna sit there and wait for Cody to sign somewhere else and then Frank is gonna say,I tried to get us a power bat but nothing worked out..Edgar Renteria is still available to back up Tyler Pastornicky but Wren still waiting for him to sign elsewhere so he can keep up his excuse that I like our team and nothing worked out.It seems like Wren is afraid to deal or else Liberty Media is a bunch of sorry arse tightwads.they don’t care whether we win or not.maybe if they start losing money on the Braves maybe they will sell them..fans stop coming to games and lets force Liberty to sell the Braves.quit buying tickets.
I still think Frank Wren is a scared pu$$y to deal.
September 24th, 20128:42 am
I can not participate now in discussion – it isvery occupied. But I will return – I will necessarily write that I think.
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