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Venice Jim
December 19th, 2011
11:54 pm
That worked nicely after taking the points off the board…
cabravesfan
December 19th, 2011
11:55 pm
DS1-
I’d prefer to say it’s the Niners defense that is taking it away
P'cola Brave
December 19th, 2011
11:56 pm
The Jesus Guzman kid is pretty interesting from SD. A RH 1B/LF. Hes hit at every level so far and in his first real chance as a starter he took off (.312 .369 .478 .847).
Tom O'Hawke
December 19th, 2011
11:57 pm
All I know is, your guys look pretty impressive, LAdy!!
cabravesfan
December 19th, 2011
11:58 pm
Tom-
They do! I just hope they can keep it up against…not as good competition. (They have the Seahawks and Rams left on the schedule- both on the road)
Jake
December 19th, 2011
11:58 pm
Great win for my Wildcats against KU. Jayhawks looked sluggish and couldn’t make a shot at the line.
Jbailz
December 19th, 2011
11:59 pm
I’m just throwing this out there… If the Chiefs can beat the Packers, this team can beat the Packers… Same game plan but we have a better running game and a better defense..
Tom O'Hawke
December 20th, 2011
12:00 am
Watch out for Seattle. They’ve been playing very well, as of late.
Venice Jim
December 20th, 2011
12:01 am
Of course, they are coached by her former main guy…
Tom O'Hawke
December 20th, 2011
12:02 am
Jbailz
On any given day, any NFL team can beat another NFL team.
Venice Jim
December 20th, 2011
12:03 am
Leaving the blog to cab – trying to avoid what seems to be an effort to get a cold, with three very busy working days coming up…(crazy people putting in extra time during break)…
Thadsdad
December 20th, 2011
12:03 am
Yep, P’cola Brave, not only am I not surprised Ed Wade went back to the Phumblins, I called it.
After hand-delivering Roy Oswalt to the Phumblins despite receiving better offers (most notably from the Cardinals), Uncle Eddie even made sure Houston paid almost all of Oswalt’s salary. Then, he gave his former employers Hunter Pence at the deadline. He had to know he was getting the boot after guiding the Astros so far into the basement they needed a stairway just to find darkness. What better way to ensure going back to your old stomping grounds.
Venice Jim
December 20th, 2011
12:04 am
Tom – wow – did you make that up?
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:04 am
Aldon Smith = A Beast. The Niners defense smells blood
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:04 am
Aldon Smith is 22 years old, folks. 22. He’s going to be a great one
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:06 am
Tom-
As seen last week when the Niners lost to the Cards, I am well aware they cannot overlook any team. They are still playing for something and will not let up next week. (Although, if they win tonight and next week and the Saints lose, they will clinch the #2 seed. GO FALCONS!!!)
Tom O'Hawke
December 20th, 2011
12:06 am
VJ
Couldn’t you just leave without that parting shot? Guess not (can’t blame you).
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:07 am
Tom-
You know he couldn’t
P'cola Brave
December 20th, 2011
12:08 am
Thadsdad
Yea I thought it was pretty evident after the Pence deal that he would probably be fired after the sale completed and he would return to the Phillies. He let his top players (Bourn, Oswalt, Pence, Berkman) leave while getting very little in return.
Tom O'Hawke
December 20th, 2011
12:09 am
Who was that guy?
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:09 am
Aldon Smith has 2.5 sacks tonight- 13 for the season. (Single season rookie record for Niners). Kid is just…wow
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:10 am
Tom-
You (and everyone else) would be wise to learn his name. You will be hearing it a lot in the next decade.
DS1
December 20th, 2011
12:11 am
And being in Portland tonight, I just realize that I coulda went to see my Jazz playing a pre-season game tonight against the Blazers……………..
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:12 am
Turnover #4 for the Niners D tonight. That will get it done.
Tom O'Hawke
December 20th, 2011
12:12 am
Ho-hum, #3…
DS1
December 20th, 2011
12:13 am
P’cola
Don’t know much about Ed Wade, besides the fact that he seems to get his azz kicked on any trade he makes.
Largo
December 20th, 2011
12:13 am
Same old crap. Braves are looking for a right handed power hitter. For how many years now? We had a good SS but he didn’t hit good enough. (He did, however, hit 15 home runs in 2011)) We’ll probably get some joker at SS who hits worse than AGon and much worse defense. But, all that is ok because Wren is comfortable with the team we have. Good or Bad, he makes the same money. He doesn’t want to give up any of our good prospects.
Damn it, you can’t get a Mickey Mantle by giving up a Milo Swartz.
Mark
December 20th, 2011
12:13 am
I wonder if the possibility of a second wild card has Wren hesitant to deal since he feels we (Braves) could very possibility be that 2nd team, if not first wild card. Just a thought.
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:14 am
DS – Any chance the Jazz are good this year? Saw some highlights of Jimmer’s debut and it was pretty impressive.
Tom O'Hawke
December 20th, 2011
12:15 am
cabravesfan
I’ll remember his name, for some reason, if I can just call him AL.
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:16 am
Tom-
I’m sure there are folks that do call him Al
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:17 am
You can call me Al… Wasn’t it Chevy Chase that sang that?
Steve
December 20th, 2011
12:18 am
How many times have the Braves made the playoffs under Frank Wren? Once. It is time to find a GM who is a winner, not one who ” like the team the way it is.” We didn’t make the playoffs Frank. Every team in the division is making moves except the Braves. Wren has to go.
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:18 am
Jbailz-
Paul Simon. Chevy Chase was part of the video (which was awesome)
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:19 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-gYOrU8bA
DS1
December 20th, 2011
12:20 am
Jbailz
I think they are going to struggle to play .500 ball. I like Ty Corbin, but he ain’t no Jerry Sloan. But we do have some decent young talent, that might come together as the season progresses. I like Hayward and Favors; and Cantor could be a beast. I don’t think Harris is all that good of a point guard though.
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:20 am
CAB – How foolish of me, must be my youth coming out. I only vaguely remember seeing Chevy Chase in the video..
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:20 am
Andy Lee is such a great weapon for the Niners…
Tom O'Hawke
December 20th, 2011
12:21 am
The 49ers should have waited a little longer before they tackled him (punt returner). They may have had a safety.
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:21 am
Now I have that song stuck in my head
Trey
December 20th, 2011
12:21 am
Is it just me, or does it seem like people are beating a dead horse on Frank Wren and not trading for anyone, yet?
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:22 am
DS – My boss has season tickets so I’ll be seeing some games.. Hopefully they will be entertaining at least. I like Hayward a lot too, he’s got a pure stroke.
CAB – Is Paul Simon like 4′ tall?
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:22 am
Tom-
I think he figured out pretty fast he was not going to go forward- seemed to freeze (and I’m sure he dropped a curse word or two) near the end
DS1
December 20th, 2011
12:23 am
OK. It’s settled. Frank Wren, you’re fired for not making the playoffs but 1 time and for settling for being mediocre. (granted on August 25th, they were the 4-5th best team in baseball last summer)
Steve, it’s only December 19th. They don’t start playing until April buddy. FW ain’t the Braves problem.
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:24 am
Jbailz-
He’s around 5′3 from what I can find. And Chevy Chase is 6′4, so the contrast is perfect
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:24 am
Big Ben needs to put his butt on the bench, he’s going to get sacked and break that ankle…
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:24 am
That looks like a lot more than a foot when they both walk through the door…
DS1
December 20th, 2011
12:25 am
Trey
That dead horse can’t be recognized anymore. It’s a bloody pile of flesh…………
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:26 am
Love to see the Niners in that Victory formation!
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:26 am
What a fantastic win for the Niners. That Defense is incredible.
MaxxBrave
December 20th, 2011
12:26 am
DOB- Were the albums in order from 50-1 or 1-50? the numbers were cutoff
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:26 am
CAB – Between Akers and Lee their kicking game is one of the best in the NFL
cabravesfan
December 20th, 2011
12:27 am
Alright y’all. Time for bed. Good night!
Night Tom!
DS1
December 20th, 2011
12:27 am
Congrats cab!
Tom O'Hawke
December 20th, 2011
12:27 am
Yes, LAdy, he looked pretty good running the other way — for whatever that’s worth. (not too much to the Steeler’s, I believe)
Nice win! They looked very solid all night. And against one of the AFC’s best.
Tom O'Hawke
December 20th, 2011
12:28 am
…. and goodnight
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:29 am
Night CAB!! Go Niners!!
DS1
December 20th, 2011
12:32 am
How would you like to be Vanessa Bryant’s lawyer?
Trey
December 20th, 2011
12:35 am
DS1, the dead horse is so mashed that it could be baby food.
Jbailz
December 20th, 2011
12:36 am
DS – Dude is gonna get PAID!!
P'cola Brave
December 20th, 2011
12:47 am
Whats the take on Cespedes? Will he jump right into the MLB or spend a season or two in the minors first?
David O'Brien
December 20th, 2011
1:12 am
MaxxBrave: They were numbered from 1-50, and on which type of device are you reading the blog? Because the numbers aren’t “cut off” when reading it on a regular PC. There are no numbers on the alphabetized group in paragraph form at bottom, but the top 50, one line apiece, have a number in front of each.
Ward
December 20th, 2011
1:54 am
Hello everyone! I guess I can learn patience. Maybe it would be wise to keep Prado,and see what he can do?Just trade J.J.
Ward
December 20th, 2011
1:57 am
I’m pulling for Cody Ross signing.Here’s what I’m going to guess. Cody Ross signing, Ronnie Cedeno signing. J.J. Trade,and a DeRosa Signing to play the utility role. That is my guess?
Ward
December 20th, 2011
1:58 am
Some should want J.J. now that Darvish is off the shelf.
Ward
December 20th, 2011
2:16 am
Prado, I see staying,unless Wren gets a good package. Prado, is too valuable to trade for crap.
cricket
December 20th, 2011
2:21 am
color me shocked ..
http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/phillies-talk/post/Source-Wade-to-rejoin-Phillies?blockID=615490&feedID=704
cricket
December 20th, 2011
2:32 am
I don’t see Cespedes spend any time in majors. His deal would probably require a call-up to majors pretty fast.
bravesfaninNashville
December 20th, 2011
2:50 am
I like the idea that Frank Wren has waited until the top Free Agent pitchers are off the market Burhle, Wilson and now even Darvish. This establishes that all teams wanting quality starting pitching must trade for it. Latos is also out of play so that makes Gio & JJ the two top targets left. The Braves should be in their best position of the offseason now until spring training. I’d rather have Prado for sure than Seth Smith. Prado is very valuable to the Braves as he’s Chipper’s back up and can play 2b and 1B in case of an injury to Uggla or Freeman. I think we trade from our surplus which is pitching. For me I’d have to be blown away to trade Prado unless it’s to Baltimore and we get both Adam Jones and JJ Hardy back in the deal. If we traded JJ and Prado for those two that would make sense. Hinske can play 3B for short spells ( a day or two) and we have Brandon Hicks if we need him to spell Chipper in case of a DL stint. We wouldn’t miss Martin as much if we had Hardy at SS and Jones in LF. We could get by with a solid glove at 3B to spell Chipper because we’d be getting good production from SS and LF.
Ward
December 20th, 2011
2:55 am
I like the Baltomore idea too,much better than the Rockies. Seth Smith is about as equal,as Prado. Slightly difference,but not much.It will be interesting to see what happens,but the longer there is no news. I feel that Prado,and J.J. will be staying.
Ward
December 20th, 2011
2:57 am
Most likely Wren, will sign cheap players that will just do the job,and Wren might be saving money for the Free Agent Market after next season?
Ward
December 20th, 2011
3:03 am
All, have a good one! Maybe sometimes, making the little moves is better than making big moves.I’m just coming to reality. All be cool,and night,and peace……………………
A-Ville Ranger
December 20th, 2011
4:17 am
The last minor leaguer to have 300 Ks was Dwight Gooden at Lynchburg.
kenhotlanta
December 20th, 2011
4:27 am
What…no Lady Gaga?
ncgary
December 20th, 2011
4:59 am
wildcat revenge
davidson almost beat em in the tournament
now so much for almost
Jeff R
December 20th, 2011
5:44 am
“But if they move Prado, it sure seems they’d need a backup third baseman in addition to a backup shortstop, rather than one who could do both. Otherwise, who’d play third if Chipper got hurt and rookie shortstop Tyler Pastornicky (assuming he’s starting) struggled or just had nagging injury or needed a day off?”
– DOB
Yes, indeed. The return on Prado would have to be darned good, given the situation on the left side of the infield.
Polyanna
December 20th, 2011
7:19 am
“I like the idea that Frank Wren has waited until the top Free Agent pitchers are off the market Burhle, Wilson and now even Darvish. This establishes that all teams wanting quality starting pitching must trade for it. Latos is also out of play so that makes Gio & JJ the two top targets left. The Braves should be in their best position of the offseason now until spring training.”
Or it could just mean that the teams that were the most desperate for quality pitching acquired what they were seeking. The rest of the teams are bargain hunters, just like the Braves, and may not be willing to pay top dollar in the trade market for a guy like JJ with a history of health problems. GIO seems to be in bigger demand than JJ and I haven’t seen anything close to impressive in what teams are offering the A’s for him. If I were looking for pitching I would not mortgage my future on a guy like JJ who may be lights out for a couple months then sitting on the bench with a sore (shoulder\ribs\knee\you name it) for half the season.
Polyanna
December 20th, 2011
7:21 am
“I like the idea that Frank Wren has waited ….”
BTW…. you make it look like Wren is a genius who is waiting. It’s the other teams who are making Wren wait.
richbrave
December 20th, 2011
7:53 am
Heh! Good point polyanna.
Good to see RY COODER on DOB’s list although I only have two cuts of his off my WARNER BROS music series. Only album artist I’ve got that’s on the list is GREGG ALLMAN, and that’s a different album labeled ANTHOLOGY by the ALLMAN BROS. BAND. Musical tastes surely do differ from person to person, but hey, that’s what makes the world go ’round..
Jeff R
December 20th, 2011
8:02 am
I absolutely enjoy DOB’s forays into music, movies, and BBQ. Rounds out ye olde blog.
Braves20
December 20th, 2011
8:15 am
The Braves also let defensive whiz Alex Gonzalez go without trying to re-sign the 34-year-old shortstop after a terrible .241/.270/372 offensive season.
Some might argue that it’s already addition by subtraction for the Braves.
Indeed.
stamper
December 20th, 2011
8:19 am
DOB,
I can’t believe The War on Drugs isn’t on your end of year list. Based on your style and taste, I figured they were a lock to be in the top 10. Brilliant album & right up your alley.
dap01
December 20th, 2011
8:19 am
Great update, DOB. I know that he is trying, but if FW does not upgrade the club after shedding $20,000,000 in payroll from last year (KK, Nate, Gonzo and Lowe) he will be a major league failure. Backup infielders and AVERAGE left fielders are the easiest positions to fill.
Ken
December 20th, 2011
8:28 am
DOB, Lynchburg is not a very big city and does not draw many folks for baseball. But the nights Gooden pitched here you couldn’t get with 4 blocks of the ballpark.
Hard Core
December 20th, 2011
8:56 am
Dum Dum Girls ? What a dumb band name.
I can honestly say that I haven’t heard of 40 of those 50 bands/albums.
VESAVERSA
December 20th, 2011
8:56 am
It would be hard for me if i was the General manager of the Braves to part with any of my young talent in the minor league. I would rather bring someone up from the minors and see how they perform first.
Versiroth
December 20th, 2011
8:57 am
The Braves either need to sign Beltran or stand pat. No one wants Cody freakin Ross or Seth Smith. Prado is better than both. Still though, with all of the money coming off the books next year, I think we could afford a 2-3 year contract for Beltran if we back loaded it a bit. We could then trade JJ for a prospect and keep Prado to back up Beltran and Chipper to make sure they stay fresh.
I want a fun team to watch this year. Payroll doesn’t concern me.
JW
December 20th, 2011
8:58 am
DOB – has a team ever posted for a Japanese player and then not signed him? Would the player then go back to Japan, or would the team with the second highest posting fee get a shot?
Is it conceivable a team could purposefully post a huge fee just to have dibs, with no intent of signing, just to keep the player away from a rival?
Hard Core
December 20th, 2011
8:59 am
I agree. I’d keep Prado of Cody Ross or Seth Smith. If you aren’t trading for someone like C.Quentin or Adam Jones then just keep Prado. Screw the LF platooning idea.
Hard Core
December 20th, 2011
9:00 am
New song : Slant Eyes turn the other way, I don’t want to see you cry…
Hard Core
December 20th, 2011
9:02 am
What good is it to have 30 great pitchers in the minor leagues when you have holes at SS & LF on your MLB club ? That’s just dumb man !
dap01
December 20th, 2011
9:03 am
DOB: What is the payroll situation? We got rid of KK’s $7 million, Nate’s $5 million, Gonzo’s $2.5 million and Lowe’s $5 million for a total of $19.5 million. We will then have arbitration increases of maybe half of that. Why can’t we get a decent free agent with that? Why get rid of Prado when we haven’t spent what we have to spend? The Braves say that are increasing payroll but the numbers indicate that they are lying? Can you shed any light on the subject?
Hard Core
December 20th, 2011
9:05 am
DOB, you should say “My Top 50 Albums By Bar/Garage Bands”
Hard Core
December 20th, 2011
9:06 am
Radiohead,Miranda Lambert,Tom Waite,and a few others are headliner bands. But most are unknowns.
Gary
December 20th, 2011
9:14 am
Stick to baseball, DOB, nobody gives a hoot what music you like.
Lew
December 20th, 2011
9:16 am
First of all, McCann gets a raise after hitting all the qualifiers of $5 mil this year and Uggla makes almost $4 mil more this year than last year. That’s almost half of your savings right there. Add an extra $2 mil on Prado, another $2 mil on Jurrjens and you’ve already spent $13 mil of the savings. Add the rest of the arb eligibles and you end up with somewhere around $5 mil left – which is about the amount that has been speculated they have.
Hard Core
December 20th, 2011
9:17 am
Cody Ross might be a good bench player/pinch hitter but Prado is better than him period. Ross could replace Brooks Conrad.
Hard Core
December 20th, 2011
9:19 am
They could have traded Jurrgens & Prado for prospects and used that money to sign Jimmy Rollins (who resigned for $10 mill/yr.). It appears that Wren is doing nothing to better this team.
beekay
December 20th, 2011
9:20 am
DOB
How about your top 10 movies of 2011 ?
abwright
December 20th, 2011
9:20 am
I applaud DOB for listening to 50 new albums in 2011, much less listening deeply enough to rank them.
I’m not sure if I own 50 albums in toto, much less for one year.