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brian
December 15th, 2011
5:56 pm
wow – dropped out of the top 100. Man have I slipped
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
6:01 pm
you need to get back in training, put on your game face and put out the extra effort brian.
Nobody loves a looser.
VaBravesFan
December 15th, 2011
6:09 pm
I’d guess I’m around the top 100-150 range for post.
Murph
December 15th, 2011
6:10 pm
I’ll be very disappointed in myself if I land in the top 25… but will be happy if I’m somewhere in the top 75.
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:11 pm
Post
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:11 pm
More
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:12 pm
Or
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:12 pm
If
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:13 pm
You
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:13 pm
Prefer
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:13 pm
,
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:14 pm
Comment
TnBrian
December 15th, 2011
6:14 pm
Where am I?
ncscoots
December 15th, 2011
6:14 pm
Ward should be awarded at least an honorary posting championship, regardless of his actual number of posts. Just, because.
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:15 pm
more
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:16 pm
Often
Murph
December 15th, 2011
6:16 pm
Ward should be awarded at least an honorary posting championship, regardless of his actual number of posts. Just, because.
This ain’t the special olympics… not everyone can be a winner in the dog eat dog world that is the AJC Braves blog.
CB
December 15th, 2011
6:16 pm
W
CB
December 15th, 2011
6:16 pm
O
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:19 pm
Works for me…………….. All Hail Ward, Blog Champion!
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:20 pm
Sour grapes, Murph.
Brava
December 15th, 2011
6:22 pm
You’re a mean one, Mr. Murph.
TnBrian
December 15th, 2011
6:22 pm
Braves already checked off their glaring needs this offseason – Lowe and Parrish. I can’t think of any other glaring weakness other getting a SS and it’s no biggie signing a Cedeno.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
December 15th, 2011
6:23 pm
Y’know, I’ve never seen a dog eat a dog, but I’ll bet it’s a horrific sight.
Brava
December 15th, 2011
6:24 pm
I’ve seen a dog eat a cat. That wasn’t pretty.
TnBrian
December 15th, 2011
6:25 pm
What might be a glaring weakness to us obviously isn’t to Wren. This man works fast and he’s shown when there’s a big hole he’ll filll it quick as possible.
We could be speculating well into Jan/Feb.
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:26 pm
5:26 central time and all is well
ColoradoBravesFan
December 15th, 2011
6:26 pm
Everyone email baseball-reference and ask them to drop Robert as sponsor of Bobby Cox page….
http://www.baseball-reference.com/feedback
David O'Brien
December 15th, 2011
6:27 pm
Those who’ve commented frequently about Chipper’s “part-time” status — while he certainly isn’t the 158-160 game player he was for much of his career — more like 125-130 these days, including pinch-hit appearances — fact is he remains productive. Again, nothing like he was for much of his career. But among NL 3B in 2011, he was 2nd in doubles (33), 3rd in HR (18), tied for 2nd in RBI (70) and 3rd in OPS (.814).
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:28 pm
This man works fast and he’s shown when there’s a big hole he’ll filll it quick as possible. _ TnBrian
As does Fredo, have you seen the gut on that dude.
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:31 pm
DOB bearing Kool Aid at 6:27.
Bat Masterson
December 15th, 2011
6:35 pm
All right, back to Mid-World.
brian
December 15th, 2011
6:46 pm
BravesFaninBC – glad I am just looser and not a loser!
brian
December 15th, 2011
6:50 pm
3B is not a problem if Chipper works hard this offseason. It does seem that he has had trouble adjusting to a new routine with aging. Preparation has to be different now than it was 10-15 years ago. 3B is not our weakness. It is LF and SS. As DOB said, look at where Chipper ranked among NL 3B. Now compare that to our LF and SS production from last year. RF production also was pi$$ poor but I am going to take a glass half full approach and say that Heyward will bounce back bigtime.
It will be interesting to see in spring training if Heyward is pummelling cars again or not. Last year it did not seem that he crushed balls like he did the year before. Get back to the ball absolutely jumping of your bat please Mr. Heyward (of course the first order of business is having the bat actually hit the ball)
brian
December 15th, 2011
6:51 pm
how is that Kool Aid Bat? Those are CHipper’s ranks among NL 3B. They are what they are.
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
6:51 pm
Xanax for ereybuddy!
Glord1
December 15th, 2011
6:53 pm
DOB – I hammered Chipper all last winter. He proved me wrong last year in many ways. He came to camp in great shape, was productive at the plate and playing shockingly well at 3rd compared to 2010 ( when he was brutal at 3B). I hope he is just as motivated and productive this year.
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
6:55 pm
Bozo’s in da hizzle! Chipper Jizzles, yaw losing some brain cells up in herrr. 40 year old and gimp legged.Wowizzle what some fools!
TennBravesFan
December 15th, 2011
6:56 pm
DOB…..about your 6:27 post, if you are looking at Chipper as a 3rd baseman then I completely agree with you about his productivity. However, if you are looking at Chipper as a 3 hole hitter….the Braves could do a lot better. This is no knock on Chipper, its a knock on the Braves for relying too much on a 39 year old to be “the guy”.
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
6:57 pm
ereybuddy dance now!
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
6:59 pm
Chipper Jizzles is not repeating his perf from last yizzle!
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
7:04 pm
Hey YO! Frankie Wrizzle, I hear Eric Patterson can be got on da chizzle!
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
7:06 pm
My Grandmizzle can move faster than Chipper
TnBrian
December 15th, 2011
7:06 pm
I could see Chipper hitting his usual .290-.300, hit you 16-18 homers and drive you in 75 runs or so.
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
7:09 pm
Grampaw Jones? that old fool isn’t going to produce them numbers.
TnBrian
December 15th, 2011
7:09 pm
C3PO, now damnit! … you got my post mixed in with yours. I’m trying to be serious TnBrian, not the “dummy” as a certain mood swing type fella around here calls me.
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
7:11 pm
TBrizzle, so sorry man,but Grampaw Jones needs a permanent vacashizzle on the local dude ranch.
TnBrian
December 15th, 2011
7:11 pm
What are you, a hip hoppin’ nerd or something? Your Star Wars name and slang don’t really go together.
TnBrian
December 15th, 2011
7:13 pm
Ahh, Chipper isn’t our problem. The injuries are annoying, but still, if they can keep Prado as his fill in and get a productive LF than we’ll be alright. More tha alright, actually.
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
7:14 pm
holes,holes and mo holes, Grampaw, Jair Jurjizzle,Tommy the Cali Kid, Pastornizzles,Heywizzle,and the main prob with the Braves Fredi Fizzles
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
7:16 pm
gots to get some swervomatical players up in da hizzle this team is boooooooooring as hellizzle
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
7:19 pm
disco night at da ted, pole dancers in da pressbox, and loose lips linda managing da team, fire da jernt up a smizzle.
phil
December 15th, 2011
7:20 pm
Wayward isn’t going to bounce back.
It just turns out he can’t play.
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
7:21 pm
Frank Wrizzle need to be dropping stacks!
phil
December 15th, 2011
7:23 pm
Clearly, Chipper isn’t “the” problem…
We have problems all over the place.
Let’s see…Wayward, Prado, no SS but at least Gonzo is gone, Uggly and his wretched inconsistency and McFatt and his increasingly poor defense and ice cold late season bat….
Throw in injured starting pitching….
A long year will soon be upon us…
Blog Monitor
December 15th, 2011
7:24 pm
blog has suddenly become overrun by simpletons..
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
7:25 pm
shuttup foolazz blog monizzle
flange1
December 15th, 2011
7:28 pm
Suddenly?
C3PO
December 15th, 2011
7:29 pm
how folks is foolz up in herrr jus bec
Efrim
December 15th, 2011
7:31 pm
Deals for Danks, Quentin and Floyd
By Jim Bowden
3. OF Carlos Quentin to Atlanta Braves for RHP Kris Medlen and RHP J.J. Hoover
The Braves can solve their need for right-handed power in their lineup without trading any of their top seven starters or OF/3B Martin Prado — who they really need in order to protect themselves from injury prone Chipper Jones — by dealing both Medlen and Hoover to the White Sox. Medlen would fit right in the White Sox’s rotation and projects to be a 10-12 game winner and Hoover should be ready to join their bullpen by June.
flange1
December 15th, 2011
7:37 pm
What do you think about the Quentin trade Efrim?
BFChris27
December 15th, 2011
7:42 pm
I would not trade Medlen at all. He’s a lucky charm.
VaBravesFan
December 15th, 2011
7:43 pm
Heyward 2012
275/360/450 21 HR 85 RBI 15 SB
Efrim
December 15th, 2011
7:44 pm
Be great if we could swap Medlen for Spruill, flange1. But that’s probably close to what it would cost. Unless KW sees Hoover as more than a middle reliever/potential set up guy.
Disgusted
December 15th, 2011
7:46 pm
Another day passes and the Braves do nothingas usual. That is what corporate ownership gets you. Wonderful Liberty Media.
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
7:47 pm
Those are CHipper’s ranks among NL 3B. They are what they are.
Chipper ranked in the top 5 in almost every stat category except a few counting numbers like RBI where he was still in the top 8 in everything else. That is in all baseball not just the NL
brian
December 15th, 2011
7:51 pm
Efrim – good find and not a bad idea. I would rather keep Medlen than Jurrjens at this point, especially with Medlen’s bullpen versatility. I would though love to see Quentin in a Braves uniform. Also by holding onto Jurrjens, it will give Jurrjens time to reestablish his value, Hanson and Hudson time to show they are healthy, and Delgado and Teheran time to get ML ready. The Braves then could trade him near the trade deadline if all the above happen for maximum value or if there are concerns with the rotation hold onto Jurrjens for the stretch run
George
December 15th, 2011
7:52 pm
C3PO is Ward.
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
7:57 pm
f you are looking at Chipper as a 3 hole hitter….the Braves could do a lot better TBF
Chipper was second on the team in OPS just a few points behind Mac-a very few points. There is nobody that the Braves have who would be a better 3rd slot hitter, nobody as long as he plays near what he did last season. on top of that he was one of the leaders of all MLB players in RISP. I have tp say that you are wrong in your statement.
CB
December 15th, 2011
8:00 pm
4 years of Medlen and 6 years of Hoover sounds like a lot for 1 year of Quentin. Pass
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:01 pm
not the “dummy” as a certain mood swing type fella around here calls me. @TnBrian
man you have your nerve after that vicious unprovoked attack you pulled yesterday on a poster you claim to be a friend, to get upset because he called you a dummy, whine about it and threaten him.. Who exactly do you think you are>?If you had backstabbed me like that I’d have called you much worse than a dummy.
I No wonder so many here think you are a total AH.
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:03 pm
Interesting idea, Efrim. Which kind of surprises me coming from Bowden
Webster
December 15th, 2011
8:05 pm
Why so much love for Carlos Quentin? Good power, but injury prone.
Jimmy
December 15th, 2011
8:09 pm
I’d trade Spruill and Hoover for Quentin.
CB
December 15th, 2011
8:15 pm
think=know
Billy Walsh
December 15th, 2011
8:16 pm
An injury plagued aging chipper who missed 30 + games still
managed to be in the top 3 in most offensive statistics. First ballot HOF
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:16 pm
That is true Webster, He misses a lot of games almost every season.
He would perhaps cost more in trade than he is worth. It is hard to tell.
I know Ward likes him though
MiaBchBravesFan
December 15th, 2011
8:20 pm
The problem with your 6:27, DOB, is that the Braves do not have an MVP bat like the playoff teams – a prototypical 30/35-100-.300-plus bat that you can count on. Dan Uggla was a very good hitter on a Marlins team that had good hitters – not great, just good – up and down the lineup on any given night. A team with no expectations playing in the actual anonymity that was Joe Robbie Stadium can play relaxed and get numbers when they matter least.
That the Braves thought that Uggla could be even within the zip code of MVP-caliber is ridiculous. His lifetime batting average forever ensures that he is nothing more than a pocket-sized Dave Kingman with a slightly better BA. That said, the Braves will do nothing next season if they do not get an MVP type bat in LF. The pressure now becomes irrational in that we now have to depend on a 40 year old 3B who’s as brittle as a communion wafer, a catcher who is not Mike Piazza, a mercurial 2B, and a trillion question marks up and down the lineup.
Bottom line: if Chipper Jones right now is your 2-hole or 3-hole hitter, brother, your team has serious as cancer hitting problems.
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:20 pm
I think Chipper should be first ballot, but if you read around on the web a lot, there seems to be quite a few writers who don’t agree with us. I think it takes 75% right?
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:26 pm
if Chipper Jones right now is your 2-hole or 3-hole hitter, brother, your team has serious as cancer hitting problems @MiaBch
Chipper hit over 800 last season, there is nothing wrong with him hitting second or third in my opinion.
He actually had a very good season last year considering how much the hitting numbers for most players have come down the last few years.and on top of that he still plays almost as many games most years as Quentin and Cruz do.
I just do not understand all the bad-mouthing.
BFChris27
December 15th, 2011
8:26 pm
* On whether any swaps are possible, Duquette said: “We’ve got a couple trade discussions that are still alive.”
Orioles GM, so maybe talks with Braves are still alive?
MiaBchBravesFan
December 15th, 2011
8:28 pm
Given the lack of HOF 3B, I think it’s awesome that the Braves will have two – Eddie Matthews and Chipper Jones. If Chipper Jones isn’t a first ballot HOF’er, the BBWA smokes crack and meth.
Webster
December 15th, 2011
8:28 pm
There has to be a better option than Quentin. I know it’s next to impossible to acquire Chase Headly, but he would be ideal. Does anyone have ant scenarios to get him?
Trey
December 15th, 2011
8:29 pm
I wonder if C3P0 and Tomahawkin are related in some way?
MiaBchBravesFan
December 15th, 2011
8:29 pm
BCBrave: can you guarantee that Chipper will play, hell, 140 FULL games next season?
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:30 pm
I hope not Chris. I don’t really want any of their players except Jones and they have already said that Jurrjens for Jones is not enough, and I would not give any more than that
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:34 pm
no, but even at 123 last season he was in the top 5 in most all categories.
The way that Fredi mixed up the batting order last season I’m not sure that playing every day would have much to do with it anyway. .
Trey
December 15th, 2011
8:34 pm
C3PO.
TnBrian
December 15th, 2011
8:36 pm
BravesFaninBC, I’m not a backstabber. If you want to believe than then that’s your right. Plus, most here like me, so I really don’t know where you get that. Somebody calls you dummy you’re going to react back. I don’t think he should’ve said that to me, especially for no reason. I respect the heck out of nolie’s knowledge of this game. I was literallly worried about him when I found out he was in the hospital. I felt a friend was sick. I’m glad he’s better and back in action.
He still pi**** me off sometimes though.
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:36 pm
I am starting to think that Efrim and nolie and some others are right and we will get nobody special at all.
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:42 pm
I am sure glad you are not my “friend” because I wouldn’t need any enemies if you were.
It is not my business so I will say no more, but I think you stink. backstabber.
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:45 pm
MiaBch I agree that Chipper SHOULD get in first round. It just surprises me when I see others who question whether he is even a Hall Of Fame player.
TnBrian
December 15th, 2011
8:47 pm
BravesFaninBC, you’re ignorant making such judgements on people through a computer screen. There’s WAY more to me than typing on a Braves blog. I am the furthest thing from a backstabber.
BraveFaninBC
December 15th, 2011
8:49 pm
I think I am starting to get as antsy as Ward and am spending too much time here waiting for a news break. I need to go and pretend that I have a life that does not revolve around Braves baseball before my girlfriend leaves me. See all of you later
brian
December 15th, 2011
8:56 pm
I hope CHipper is working his body out appropriately for an old man but hard. There is no better statement than to have a huge year, lead the team to the World Series, than retire. Chipper will be key once again to the Braves hopes and he has the opportunity to ride off in the sunset as a world champ, 1st ballot HOF, and arguably the best Atlanta Brave ever.
MiaBchBravesFan
December 15th, 2011
9:14 pm
Because if Chipper can’t – and he won’t – then what’s the point of setting up a lineup that, in the absence of an MVP bat, depends on consistency (as health allows) as its greatest asset. You need a dependable 2 & 3 to make a lineup go – especially in the absence of MVP 4’s and 5’s.
ZWacky
December 15th, 2011
9:20 pm
then what’s the point of setting up a lineup that, in the absence of an MVP bat, depends on consistency (as health allows) as its greatest asset. Miami Beach
Fredi based his flipping line up on LRLRLRLR much of the season and switched players all around in slots the rest.
I’m not sure I have ever seen a bigger mess.
I don’t think its scientific enough to make much difference how often a player appears in the line up.
tiger297
December 15th, 2011
9:20 pm
yeah but if you have a dependable 3, 5, 6 and a consistent 1, 2, 7 with an average 8 and a solid 4 thats should be good enough
tiger297
December 15th, 2011
9:21 pm
wait what did I just say?
ZWacky
December 15th, 2011
9:22 pm
This seems like a really slow off season. Boring!