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Mike Mangan
December 9th, 2011
11:43 pm
The Marlins designate Clay Hensley who always was tough against the Braves.Why not trade Fish to the Fish and bring in Hensley in Linebrinks old spot in the pen.Come to think of it we had a good flame thrower lefty who we dumped last year who looked pretty good for The Royals anyone remember Tim Collins,,,
fred
December 10th, 2011
8:41 am
what hapened to our farm system…. sign some one good and the win 10 more in a row… thats where to start i think? need some one to give pep talk ?
charles
December 10th, 2011
9:18 am
Good morning cheaper than dirt. I do respect your opimion. MY point is wren could be given 200mil and you non braves fans would still complain when got all theseplayers you want. Find something good about this team.
Henry Aaron's Ghost
December 10th, 2011
10:01 am
People, people, people. This is THE Atlanta Braves. THEY are NOT going to do a darn thing to put a great team on the field. LISTEN to what they say. YOUTH, YOUTH, YOUTH. Farm teams, farm teams, farm teams. Did you not HEAR what they were saying???? Try, Oakland A’s EAST. That is what the Braves are going to become. EVEN though the Pirates signed has beens, AT LEAST they ARE DOING SOMETHING. The Braves??? They just sit and wait. Hamstrung by a $15 million contract for a finished 40 year old 3B. Enjoy 2012. The Braves will be out of it by July and will be sending a lot of these over priced burned out vets packing. FOR . . . . . . . MORE PROSPECTS!! New name for the team can be: The Atlanta Prospects!!!
Felix -- ( Fish?!)
December 10th, 2011
10:23 am
Note to Frank Wren*: We don’t need pitchers, we need hitters. And preferably the kind that hit around .300. now remember Frankie, .300 is better than .230.
* do you have an attention deficit problem?
charles
December 10th, 2011
10:24 am
Here we go again. Take your defeatize attitude and take it to Philly or Florida. Be an Atlanta and have a positive attitude. If not, then find another team and leave my Atlanta Braves alone.
Jay Dubu
December 10th, 2011
10:56 am
With the pickup of Fish, does that mean that the bullpen is all set?
Fish – LH
O’Flaherty – LH
Venters – LH
Kimbrel – RH
Vizcaino – RH
Martinez – RH
Jay Dubu
December 10th, 2011
11:03 am
Starters will be:
Medlen – RH or Delgado – RH
Hanson – RH
Beachy – RH
Hudson – RH
Minor – LH
JJ will be on another team, and Teheran @ AAA.
bozz
December 10th, 2011
11:03 am
The Pirates are doing something? Yeah, consistently finishing in the bottom of their division.
63 year Braves fan
December 10th, 2011
12:03 pm
Everyone is dumping on Fredi. But I say “Tip your hat” to him.
darrell starks
December 10th, 2011
12:44 pm
Thanks Felix, this team has not had a good offense in years.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
December 10th, 2011
12:46 pm
JJ AND O’ FLAHERTY FOR VOTTO.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!
Neither one
December 10th, 2011
1:57 pm
Neither Jurrjens or Fish will be part of the Braves in 2012……Jurrjens and Prado will be traded for Wil Meyers or Lorenzo Cain or both and Fish won’t make the team!
Fishing
December 10th, 2011
2:02 pm
The Brave’s are Fishing here……….what makes anyone think that Fish has a chance on the big league club when he couldn’t even make the Yankees after they rule 5ed him in 2010……Hell if Scott Proctor could pitch for the Yanks and Fish didn’t what makes anyone think he is any good!We all know Proctor sucked!
Wren -a-player
December 10th, 2011
2:10 pm
I’m Fishing here but seem to have run out of bait!
Occupy Frank Wren
December 10th, 2011
2:17 pm
Who’s with me?
We are the 99%…of Braves fans who want some action!
ugaaccountant
December 10th, 2011
2:34 pm
I’m not for any action unless it’s a smart move like prying Meyers away from KC. I want no part of rental players.
Mister Frisky
December 10th, 2011
3:39 pm
Angels just got 5,000 to show up for Pujols and Wilson introduction.How many will show up for the intro of Fish?Better yet do Braves even get 5,000 for the home opener?
charles
December 10th, 2011
3:59 pm
Well, i see it didnt take very long for my non brave fans to start complaining.Find something positive before you start running your mouths.
Bill M.
December 10th, 2011
4:11 pm
You have to give The Fish a chance. Who had heard of O’Flat?????.He has done a pretty good job. It wouldn’t hurt to have another lefty in pen.
Mister Frisky
December 10th, 2011
4:18 pm
All we are saying is give Fish a chance.Bill M. Is right.Could always use more bully help considering the starters can’t get out of the sixth.
Mister Frisky
December 10th, 2011
4:20 pm
Has anyone ever heard of O’Flat.Has anyone at 755 Hank Aaron drive ever heard of O’FFENSE?
Associated Press
December 10th, 2011
5:39 pm
Breaking News!: Frank Wren, to improve the Braves offense, hires another hitting coach–Greg Norton.
Felix
December 10th, 2011
5:44 pm
Who are these fools giving Wren credit for unloading Derek ‘the Loser’ Lowe? Don’t they know who made the incompetent decision to hire and overpay for Lowe to begin with?
BravesfaninWis
December 10th, 2011
7:25 pm
Just watched the press conference introducing Albert Pujols on the Angels website. Man, I wish the Braves would stop being so f’n cheap and land a player like that. That’s what its all about. Their fans are pumped for this season and they have every right to be. What do Braves fan have to look forward to? Another collapse probably.
BravesfaninWis
December 10th, 2011
7:33 pm
Hey Charles, I am positive that they Braves lied and haven’t addressed the needs that they said they would after the epic collapse last season. If you are fan that just watches 10-15 games a year and is always saying “Oh well, there is always next year” then you my friend are not a real fan.\
Real fans want their teams to win and get mad when they don’t do anything. 14 division titles is great and all, but 1 WS title in that same time frame is pathetic. If you saw the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, or Phillies winning their division 14 straight years, I guarantee they all would win more than 1 WS title. Hell, the Marlins have won more WS titles than the Braves did in their 14 straight appearances and the Marlins never came close to making the playoffs 14 straight years. Does that say something?
Mister Frisky
December 10th, 2011
7:42 pm
BravefanWis you are absolutely spot on.I live in Southern California everyone agrees this Pujols signing biggest sports story in SoCal history.Angel fans are jacked and rightfully so.Maddux signed in what 93?So it’s what 17 years and counting since the Braves have landed the best of anything.Looks like Fat Santas Wren and Fredo filling Brave stockings once again with a lump of coal probably used at that.
Keylargo
December 10th, 2011
7:45 pm
Hell, the Marlins have won more WS titles than the Braves did in their 14 straight appearances and the Marlins never came close to making the playoffs 14 straight years. Does that say something?
Yeah, it said they made the wildcard while they were hot and it carried over to a World Championship. It doesn’t mean they are arseholes for making the playoffs as constructed, it means that those making the rules are arseholes.
Agents Free
December 10th, 2011
7:54 pm
Jeff Passan ranked the free agents. He’s hilarious !
Link : http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AmjKH4uHQUzK.yjTfSj8V9ARvLYF?slug=jp-passan_ultimate_free_agent_tracker_baseball_110211
Here’s what he said about Braves great Jack Wilson :
Jack Wilson(notes), IF: In two stops this season, came remarkably close to the rare SLG-lower-than-OBP-when-both-under-.300 trick, something reserved for the very finest in offensive ineptitude. Thank goodness he owns a glove.
Agents Free
December 10th, 2011
7:55 pm
Jeff Passan ranked the free agents. He’s hilarious !
Link : http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AmjKH4uHQUzK.yjTfSj8V9ARvLYF?slug=jp-passan_ultimate_free_agent_tracker_baseball_110211
Here’s what he said about Braves great Jack Wilson :
Jack Wilson(notes), IF: In two stops this season, came remarkably close to the rare SLG-lower-than-OBP-when-both-under-.300 trick, something reserved for the very finest in offensive ineptitude. Thank goodness he owns a glove.
Agents Free
December 10th, 2011
8:13 pm
Think outside the box Frank Wren ! Sign Jimmy Rollins for 3 years and move Pastornicky to 3B when Chipper retires next year !
don waddell
December 10th, 2011
8:23 pm
I am so happy frank wren is following in MY footsteps as WORST GM in Atlanta history.
Another guy who should NEVER have been given the GM position and he has the Great trait of doing nothing or making TERRIBLE trades to hurt the team.
Keep up the great work “frank” maybe they will be the Winnipeg Braves sooner… rather than later and you will FINALLY LOSE your job then !!! Just look at ME !!!
John S. may have been a very good GM, but as President, he is TERRIBLE, as he continues to allow this GM “jobber” to do nothing and keep his job.
Do us ALL a favor “frank” move to Winnipeg and get the HELL out of baseball !
NickB
December 10th, 2011
8:56 pm
Bravesfan Wisconsin-
please become a Brewers fan. You are a complete unknowing moron. You add nothing to the discussion. in Fact when it comes to the Braves you are the ex wife of fans. You think it would be better to have $254 million dollars tied up in a player over 10 years? LOL really? So when Pujols is 38 and hitting 19 HR’s a year you wouldn’t be complaining that “Frank Wren ruined the team by signing that bum Pujols! He’s gonna be here for 4 more years eating up almost $100 mill !!!” ? Yeah, you would. The dumbest thing FW could’ve done was sign Reyes/Rollins, or moved Freddy to LF for an overpaid Pujols/Fielder. You people are pouty little spoiled rotten babies. You don’t know what sports pain is. Try being a Pirates fan or a Royals fan or a Mariners fan……..
FW is being smart. He’s waiting for a market to emerge for JJ and if it doesn’t, we will plug him back into the rotation until the deadline.
The people who understand the game and the business behind it KNOW that all this team NEEDS is a backup OF’er who can play CF and a backup middle infielder who can play SS. IF they can get value for Prado and JJ, then they should make the deals. But just making deals and signings because the lowest common denominator of fans whines that their diaper needs changing is NOT how you run a pro sports franchise. So stick with what you know best, I’m sure there are plenty of things for you to sweep up around Wisconsin….
BravesfaninWis
December 10th, 2011
10:25 pm
NickB,
Unknowing moron? Tough guy behind a keyboard huh? Did I say sign Pujols? No I didn’t, I said I wish they would sigh a impact player like him. Ex wife of fans? Jeez, that is so original, did it take you all night in mommy’s basement to come up with that?
So are you a Royals, Pirates, or Mariners fan? It seems that way seeing as though we are spoiled and you know all about “sports pain” So all this team needs is a backup Of’er and backup SS and they will be just fine? So having a unproven rookie SS and a guy who is not good enough to be a starting Of’er is going to make this team better? And you say we don’t know anything about the game?
I got plenty of things to sweep up here in Wisconsin, I’ll start with your woman’s panties after I get done with them tonight.
Archangel
December 10th, 2011
10:26 pm
Yep
charles
December 10th, 2011
10:38 pm
Hello NICK B. I finally got to help me shut these whining babies. They could have an allstar at every position and win 10 ws and they would still whine. The Braves are still a good team.Of course i want them to win but at least i dont whine and cry like these UNbrave fans.
BravesfaninWis
December 10th, 2011
10:51 pm
Oh greetings Nick B, I am Charles, want to be my friend? Give it up man. Yes the Braves are a good team still, they won 90 games last season. What good is winning 90 games though when you completely collapse and don’t even make the playoffs? What good is 90 wins when the teams in your division are getting stronger and you are doing nothing but finishing in 3rd or 4th place?
So I am not a Braves fan because I want them to make moves to make sure they stay ahead of the Marlins and Nationals and try to challenge the Phillies? Please. I am not a Braves fan because I spend money on them every year just to watch them play? Your rambling has no merit. Just because I get mad when they play like crap, and when they do NOTHING to improve their team and you sit there and say ” There’s always next year!!! Go Braves!!!” doesn’t make you or little ole Nicky B more of a fan than the next guy.
BravesfaninWis
December 10th, 2011
10:53 pm
NickB,
Bravesfan Wisconsin-
please become a Brewers fan. You are a complete unknowing moron. You add nothing to the discussion.
I apparently added something to the conversation seeing as though you read my post and decided to comment on it huh?
J-Man
December 10th, 2011
10:56 pm
WE WANT THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
charles
December 10th, 2011
11:48 pm
Hello Unbraves fan Wisconsin. For your information i was in Turner field for 33 of their 81 home games. The rest i watched on extra innings. I do not even live in Georgia. Can you say the same. They need aback up ss and a power hitting outfielcer. Thats all. If you check position by position.The bravesare in good shape. So do me a favor and shut up about how bad they are or pick another team to cry about.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 10th, 2011
11:54 pm
Because I figured I would give our beat writer a bit of help, I have taken MC’s latest beat blog where MC really went out on a crazy limb and explained the Atlanta hawks financial situation this offseason and I replaced every mention of Hawks with Braves. So AJC, just fill in the blanks:
From what I can gather, (Frank Wren) is exploring scenarios for ________. But, so far, (Wren) does not have the green light to approve a transaction that results in a luxury tax payment. As long as that’s the case, I don’t see how it can happen.
Atlanta has roughly (_____) million in guaranteed team salary committed to (__) players (assuming minimum salaries are the same as stipulated in the old CBA for 2011-12). Add _________________ and the team salary is about (___) million.
Atlanta could shed as much as (___) of its team salary (depending on any guarantees) by _____________________________________________________. Those moves would leave the team salary at about (___).
Obviously, the (BRAVES) would pay if ____________________________________________ With so many teams ____________, I have to think ________________________________________.
Days later and I’m still getting questions about -__________________________________________. I don’t think there is anything to that report, and not just because it would be a bad deal for the (Braves) (which probably helps explain why the rumor is so popular among ((Braves)) fans).
For one, the deal would require the (braves) to ____________, (Wren) doesn’t yet have the go-ahead to make that kind of deal and may not get it. Also, the (Braves) still are focused on signing a free-agent guard ____________________________, and it looks like they’ve got their man in ________________
BravesfaninWis
December 11th, 2011
12:49 am
Chuck, er Charles,
Yeah, I am sure that you were there for that many home games without living in the state. The Braves are in good shape huh? 3 of their top 5 starting pitchers are a health concern Hudson, Hanson, and Jurrgens. 1 can’t get out of the 5th inning in most starts because he already has over 100 pitches at that point, Beachy. And the 5th starter (whoever that ends up being) can’t do it on their own. Their bullpen success will depend on the starting staff.
So again, this team only needs a backup SS behind a rookie that has never played in the big leagues before, and a backup OF player in order to contend? Take off the Navy Sunglasses, and put down the Red Kool Aid.
So do me a favor, be a real fan and admit when a team is doing nothing, and stop being a Homer.
dap01
December 11th, 2011
5:37 am
A back up SS and a LF are the easiest positions to fill in baseball, We have been trying to have an AVERAGE LF for years.
We can honestly say that so far, “our GM has done’ nothing”. After the letter to the fans, our management has been like the Hawks management. They go through the motions but simply end up picking up the leftovers.
Does anyone believe that attendance will go up or even remain close to the same with this lame attempt at an offseason?
charles
December 11th, 2011
7:53 am
O.K. 1 more time. The Phillies got nobody new. Their old. The Marlins got Reyes WOW great pickup that makes Ramirez upset. They got Bell. If their not ahead He does no good. They got an Americanleague pitcher that wont do wellin n l . Braves have used at least one rookie every year for the last 3 yrs and it worked They had the 4th besr Era in baseball. If you are so upset with them,thenwrite them a check for 200mil Then if they dont do anything you can cry.But until they getan allstar team you wont be happy. So why dont change your diaper and pick you another team. Ilove the Braves and want you babies to leave them alone.
@Fredo
December 11th, 2011
10:07 am
Its the Daily Cafardo. Per Nick Cafardo, Boston.com: Jair Jurrjens, RHP, Braves – He appeared to be available, but the Braves may have to hold on to him, given their concern about Tommy Hanson’s shoulder, according to a major league source.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2011/12/11/the_purse_strings_get_a_bit_tighter_over_at_fenway/?page=5
Thanks, Nick, Seriously serious. But what is your take on the latest Mookiefest and the Bumble Fludders CD?
bozz
December 11th, 2011
10:34 am
NickB got it right.
Ryan
December 11th, 2011
11:01 am
@bozz, @NickB, @charles @everyone here
I agree with everyone here, I think. I say I think because I am not 100 percent sure because there isn’t enough accurate information being reported by any of the media outlets on the current state of finances with this organization. I am pretty sure Frank Wren is doing well. But because the media seems to be reluctant to spell out where this team stands financially, who really knows? Hell, just a “we asked and they said to shove it, so we don’t know” would be acceptable.
@Fredo
December 11th, 2011
11:05 am
C’mon Brad, Beth. Let DOB fly free. Spread his wings. Seriously. Give the man more commas and, to really drive the point home, more added words.
Gwinnett Fred
December 11th, 2011
11:42 am
A little off topic here, but does anybody know why (besides the fact that MLB is run by a bunch of morons) the season once again starts mid week in 2012, yet so late that the end of the season comes in October?
I thought the sales job they made last year was to get the playoffs started earlier so games weren’t played in freezing temps of late October.
Make up your minds MLB. I mean seriously, what would be wrong with April 2 thru Sept. 30? I’d really like the explination for April 6 to October 3 with game 7 of the World Series scheduled for November 2?
P.S. – Guess he extra playoff teams thing is out for this year too, huh – or maybe you don’t mind the World Series ending in MID November.
J-Man
December 11th, 2011
12:29 pm
If you keep Fredi then you have to make SOME changes.
If you would have got rid of him I wouldv’e understood not making any additions. SO DOB WHEN the BRAVES miss the play-offs will any changes be made then. Also, you need to post a comment because some of these people are unfairly taking their frustration out on you. Remember Keep your pimp hand strong. But I am a loyal Braves FAN and cheer for them when they lose 100 but I’ll be angry and write up on the posts about it but as long as they TRY to improve I’ll give them the benefit of doubt. But they haven’t even tried this off-season. Be honest have you ever covered a team to make as few of transactions as this team has this offseason.
David O'Brien
December 11th, 2011
12:37 pm
If you keep Fredi then you have to make SOME changes.
If you would have got rid of him I wouldv’e understood not making any additions. SO DOB WHEN the BRAVES miss the play-offs will any changes be made then. Also, you need to post a comment because some of these people are unfairly taking their frustration out on you. J-Man
They kept Fredi. They missed the playoffs. And post a comment about what, exactly?
David O'Brien
December 11th, 2011
12:38 pm
C’mon Brad, Beth. Let DOB fly free. Spread his wings. Seriously. Give the man more commas and, to really drive the point home, more added words — @Fredo
What he said… I think.
Mike Mangan
December 11th, 2011
12:45 pm
Let,s see A second hitting coach,,,I know, how about Loaf I am sure Garrett Anderson is available,We once traded a case of bats and balls for catcher Greeg Olson the last guy to wear #10 before Chipper when he was still wearing #16..Well we could trade Wren for two bats and a ball and possibly come out ahead..Stan Kasten leaves Atlanta and goes to D.C.and then leaves to become part of the group trying to buy The Dodgers How long before John Schuerholz packs up and heads out of Atlanta.Why not add another hat To John S and let him once again put on the GM hat.Take a look at The Good,Bad, and the Wren trades and signings and then decide.
Eric
December 11th, 2011
3:04 pm
With fans like Charles, who needs fans? one funny guy. Just eat, spit and be happy. Win, lose are draw I’m with boys. Just show up!
You to Nick= homer-yes man. What my wife calls a a** kisser.
eskippy
December 11th, 2011
6:06 pm
Enter your comments here
NickB
December 11th, 2011
6:20 pm
Eric- I think I saw your wife at Westminster, she won her group!!!
You crybaby “fans” can complain all you want. But you have this sense of entitlement that amuses me. You want the Braves to have a $200 mill budget, always judge talent perfectly, never have players have down seasons and when they do they should be traded. No team has ever done this in the history of the game. (not that I expect many of you to understand the history of the game). Smart fans know that much of the hitting woes were due to a very old timey stupid hitting philosophy professed by our now fired hitting coach (seriosuly, top 5 in OBP in 2010 then boom, bottom 3 in 2011…..horrible philosophy). This same group of players that scored all those runs in 2010 will be back with a better hitting coach tandem as well as probably improvement from Heyward,Prado ,Uggla and a season of Bourne in CF instead of Shafer.
I predict , that with no additions, this team should probably be 6th or 7th in offense in the NL, and with the Braves pitching staff, thats enough to win 95+ AND CHALLENGE FOR THE DIVISION!!!
To listen to you people, you would think that the entire season last year was like September… It wasn’t, stow yer hankies and man up for goodness sake….. I guess you would all be happy if the team spent like crazy and ended up riddled with inujured $18 mill per season players like the Mets , or traded everything every year like the A’s…… Yeah, that’s fundamentally sound baseball…….
Seriously, ask DOB, he will verify all that I have said is true. You don’t build a team with knee jerk reactions and an blank check. You build a team with smart decisions that consider both the near and long term repurcussions of ALL financial decisions.
NickB
December 11th, 2011
6:24 pm
Oh and Braves fan Wisconsin , you such a tool…. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha, I’m not an internet tough guy. I don’t get full of rage and threaten violence over the screen to someone I will never meet in real life. You ,however, get yourself worked up into a lather over a game and a scenario of which you have no control… I bet your the kind of fan that thinks FW made the Texiera and JD Drew deals…. lol
Have fun shoveling your car out of the driveway. well if the home allows you a shovel that is.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 11th, 2011
7:20 pm
Hawks fans asked very similar questions that Braves fans asked of their beat writer about the financial constraints levied against their team.
Here is an example, from MC over at the Hawks blog, of doing work:
Headline: Atlanta Hawks: Ruck Sund says Hawks don’t want to pay tax, making Jamal Crawford’s return doubtful
I’m full.
charles
December 11th, 2011
7:21 pm
I agree with you NickB. I really wonder what these idiots team would like if they had a payroll of 95 mil. The way the want their team Uggla Mccann,Heyward would all be gone.
Mike Mangan
December 11th, 2011
9:11 pm
Lets see within the division NL East//The Marlins get Reyes we get Drew Sutton,The Marlins get lefthander Mark Burlhe we get lefty Robert Fish,The Marlins pick up the San Diego Closer,The Braves well I guess we could have picked up The San Diego Chicken but instead we dump Derek Lowe,Bell,Reyes and Buhrle have any of their previous teams even come close to winning a division?I still wish we would have picked up Hunter Pence instead of the Bourne Identity.So The Philles get Pap from Boston and lose Roy Ostwalt and possibly Ryan Madson and Maybe Jimmy Rollins.You Gotta be Happy with Sutton & Fish.Let,s see spring training is just eight weeks away.Who will be the Phantom SS or the would be power hitting LF Only time will tell.Frank Wren whats on your Christmas wih list?????
charles
December 11th, 2011
10:37 pm
YOUR not even woth listening to. If you think their that good why didnt they win the WS. There you go crying like ababy again. Why dont you wait and see what happens? I really think braves will win divison. If you have no confidence then become a phillie because you are not a loyal brave fan.
bozz
December 12th, 2011
1:16 am
Man, NickB, you’re killing it dude. Nice job.
dap01
December 12th, 2011
8:57 am
That money we saved from Derek Lowe has really helped us with our roster!
Heathcliff Slocum
December 12th, 2011
9:40 am
Hoping that if the Braves non-tender Peter Moylan, they have some sort of back door deal in place. Extremely tough on right handers and not too bad against leftys. A team with playoff aspirations needs a guy like Moylan.
Trader Jacks
December 12th, 2011
9:53 am
I guess all the money saved by moving Lowe,KK,Alex G,McOut,etc. is just being pocketed by Liberty Media ? You’d think with all those salaries coming off the books they could at least afford Jimmy Rollins ?
Trader Jacks
December 12th, 2011
10:28 am
Trade Prado & Jurrgens for a star LF then sign Jimmy Rollins at SS and roll on baby !
Eric
December 12th, 2011
11:50 am
Yes, Nick my wife was with your wife at Westminister…they looked like they were having fun…wow!
I don’t recall anyone asking for 200
million budget…
Maybe Wren will give you and Charles season tickets for keeping your nose up his @@@!
Eric
December 12th, 2011
11:55 am
agree @ 9:40..Let Moylan go..why take the chance after two operations. Maybe Fish will do the trick!
charles
December 12th, 2011
12:33 pm
At least were LOYAL to the team. You need to go make friends with Rubin Amaro because you are definitely not a braves fan.
Santa
December 12th, 2011
1:08 pm
Liberty Media will not get anything for Christmas. It is too much like Scrooge.
Bama Mike
December 12th, 2011
1:18 pm
Not much to get really excited about so far for next season if you are Braves fan. To many if’s regarding coming back from serious injuries. Well, at least first, second and centerfield looks solid for a change.
Sam A.
December 12th, 2011
1:52 pm
Hey Guys,
How about this and this is trading within your division…..Trade J.J for Hanley Ramirez. Read some rumors fthat he doesn’t want to play 3rd base and he wants out of Miami. If that happens those promising SS you have coming up…maybe they can play outfield?
Eric
December 12th, 2011
2:06 pm
Charles said Phillies have not made a move–what the he!! was Papelbon?
You must love Amaro, thats the second are third time you refered to him.
Eric
December 12th, 2011
2:19 pm
Also Phillies signed LP Frank Gailey and OF’r from Nationals Laynce Nix…and the beat goes on.
charles
December 12th, 2011
2:45 pm
WOW they got another old old man.Whoptee do. If Laynce was any good they would not of let him goI really dont know what you want the Braves to do other than a complete allstar team. apparently you dont like the Braves anyway so why are complaining. Your just like a bully. if you cant get your way you complAin. What do want? Why dont you Gm the with the limited payroll.You couldnt do it because you dont like the team. So why dont you get on a website team that you do like
Eric
December 12th, 2011
3:02 pm
The Bible said not to call anyone a fool. Therefore I’ll just say u are a idiot.
To disagree don’t mean you’re not loyal are not a fan..get a life and stop smoking what ever you smoking.
Around July all-star break we’ll see where Braves stand in League.
Eric
December 12th, 2011
3:04 pm
learn to write charles
bcote427
December 12th, 2011
3:11 pm
So correct me if I am wrong:
We saved:
~ $5 mill getting rid of DLowe
~ $11 mill buying out McClouth
~ $7 mill with Kawakami expired contract
~ $2 mill not resigning AGon
So we have nearly $25 mill off the books from last year yet we didn’t sign a single quality player.
And we are supposed to get excited for 2012…lol
charles
December 12th, 2011
3:21 pm
I am thru arguing with you. Your the one smoking . When braves win it all you can eat your words’ I am signing off for good because i dont wwant to deal with an idiot and a bully.
Eric
December 12th, 2011
3:24 pm
What bully? Do u know the meaning of the word.
Eric
December 12th, 2011
3:30 pm
agree 427…
@bcote427
December 12th, 2011
4:06 pm
Math? MATH? Who cares? And what does that have to do with BBQ and Drive By Truckers? I am glad that it seems as some here are starting to get why they should expect actual questions asked and coverage from this newspaper. Breaking stories would be nice, but Christ I will just take simple questions like the one you ask above. Where is the budget currently and what is left to use toward the remaining spots left yet unfilled?
@bcote427
December 12th, 2011
4:08 pm
Again, to quote the post from above:
Because I figured I would give our beat writer a bit of help, I have taken MC’s latest beat blog where MC really went out on a crazy limb and explained the Atlanta hawks financial situation this offseason and I replaced every mention of Hawks with Braves. So AJC, just fill in the blanks:
From what I can gather, (Frank Wren) is exploring scenarios for ________. But, so far, (Wren) does not have the green light to approve a transaction that results in a luxury tax payment. As long as that’s the case, I don’t see how it can happen.
Atlanta has roughly (_____) million in guaranteed team salary committed to (__) players (assuming minimum salaries are the same as stipulated in the old CBA for 2011-12). Add _________________ and the team salary is about (___) million.
Atlanta could shed as much as (___) of its team salary (depending on any guarantees) by _____________________________________________________. Those moves would leave the team salary at about (___).
Obviously, the (BRAVES) would pay if ____________________________________________ With so many teams ____________, I have to think ________________________________________.
Days later and I’m still getting questions about -__________________________________________. I don’t think there is anything to that report, and not just because it would be a bad deal for the (Braves) (which probably helps explain why the rumor is so popular among ((Braves)) fans).
For one, the deal would require the (braves) to ____________, (Wren) doesn’t yet have the go-ahead to make that kind of deal and may not get it. Also, the (Braves) still are focused on signing a free-agent guard ____________________________, and it looks like they’ve got their man in ________________
David O'Brien
December 12th, 2011
4:18 pm
Dear @bcote427, @bozz, @Fredo (all same IP address),
I’m sure that eventually you’re going to post a comment that has nothing to do with me and is solely about the Braves or baseball.
But we’re still waiting.
ob·ses·sion /əbˈseSHən/
Noun:
1. The state of being obsessed with someone or something.
2. An idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person’s mind.
I am flattered to be your obsession, Fredo/bozz/bcote427.
Oh, and just a reminder: No salary cap in baseball, so teams aren’t obligated to divulge payrolls and such. Braves are one of the few that provide no payroll totals, no projected totals or estimates of how much they have to spend. We keep asking, but they keep declining to give that up. They leave us to speculate.
But don’t let that stand in the way of your obessive rants.
Oh, and you should get the new Tom Waits CD. Excellent.
David O'Brien
December 12th, 2011
4:22 pm
I beg your pardon, @bcote427/@bozz/@Fredo
You did post at least one comment last week that kind of, sort of wasn’t about me — you commented that Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times was reporting a Matt Thornton-to-Braves trade possibility was “heating up.”
I was the one who shot down that rumor about 10 minutes later. Of course you didn’t have a follow-up stating that, or anything about the rumor being bogus.
bozz
December 12th, 2011
4:40 pm
DOB,
You scared me for a sec, dude. I mean, you’re a good guy but “obsession” is more in the @ group, not me.
Also, Tom Waits rules but is absolutely horrid music to try and study to.
Steve
December 12th, 2011
6:13 pm
Only have one problem with the Fish signing.
He is a lefty that actually does better against righties. Will Freddi understand that or just simply role him out there thinking he is great against lefties? It’s probably a small sampling of appearences, but this whole lefty-righty thing isn’t always as written in stone as many MLB managers think it is.
Felix
December 12th, 2011
6:38 pm
Hey Charles: Sieg Heil !!!
northbeach Scott
December 12th, 2011
7:43 pm
WTF is wrong with you d-bags fretting over the roster 100+ days before the season starts. It is not about sexy deals or high priced free agents in December. The season is a marathon that typically takes most of the 40-man roster to win. The Braves have limited needs and there are not too many obvious fits that also fit the budget (you know, constraints, just like in the real world at work or home).
The Braves have a huge amount of leverage with their pitching depth and a key piece like Martin Prado. They may not make a deal and will still have a better team than they started with in 2011. Also, the Braves might make a deal during the season, depending upon needs and availability.
Constantly b*tching about the composition of the roster at this time of the year make you sound like a stupid whiny 13 year old nitwit–perhaps you are. If so, be good and only speak when spoken to, you douche bag.
phil
December 12th, 2011
10:14 pm
Fans are Pi$$3d
December 8th, 2011
5:55 pm
We blow a 10.5 game lead and do nothing about it and they think fans will come next season??????
******
Not this fan.
Not until we fire FG….
phil
December 12th, 2011
10:17 pm
Stinger2
December 8th, 2011
6:12 pm
DOB: I thought I heard the Braves did not keep Gonzalez
because he wanted a 2 yr. contract. Now he signs a 1 yr.
deal with the Brewers. Why did the Braves let him go?
*****
Because he’s getting old and can’t hit a lick….
Thank goodness he’s history!
phil
December 12th, 2011
10:19 pm
reckingball
December 8th, 2011
7:43 pm
I think that Wren is doing a good job. He is smarter than the average fan.
The Braves can win the WS in 2012 with the team that they have now.
If Wren does trade JJ or Marteeen, it will be a trade stacked in the Braves favor.
GO BRAVES 2012!!!!!!
********
Lol….your stupidity is growing, i see, as the holidays near…
JIM BRADY
December 13th, 2011
11:08 am
Start a boycot of the braves if you dont get the truth. Insist that they clean house of all of management personel. Then try to get L M to sell the team to Bernie. Thanks
MiaBchBravesFan
December 13th, 2011
8:32 pm
“Oh, and you should get the new Tom Waits CD. Excellent.”
BAWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAWHAW!!! Brilliantly sublime.
By the way, if you get a chance to see George Thorogood & The Destroyers on tour, I highly, HIGHLY recommend it. Their show down here was absolutely a time machine event. He still beats that guitar up like a rented mule, and they sounded amazing!
MiaBchBravesFan
December 13th, 2011
8:34 pm
Oh, and I did pick up the autographed CD and a slew of T’s. Festivus shopping – DONE!
MR
December 15th, 2011
4:11 pm
This Fish guy could be a nice piece added to the bullpen this season. As far as the WE WANT THE TRUTH thing goes…this is Liberty Media. What are you expecting? There is no baseball infatuated owner with a hell-bent desire to win controlling the purse strings, just an army of bean counters looking to maximize profits over debits. Soulless. Sure I don’t like Frank Wren, heck, I don’t think he could win the WS with a payroll of $200 million or a $10 baseball fantasy league. But the real culprit in the Braves past and future mediocrity (yes I said it, they had the best staff ever assembled IMO and let it die on the vine without building a dynasty around Glavine, Maddux, and Smoltz) is Liberty Media, just as it was with Time-Warner. Their goals begin and end with the ledger, not what happens between the lines. Their success is measured with stock prices not championships. That’s the way they’ll always be. You should be used to it by now.
deadeye
December 16th, 2011
5:15 pm
HEYWOOD, LOST MORE GAMES, AND MADE MORE OUTS WITH THE BASES LOAD3ED THEN ANY PLATER I HAVE EVER SEEN, HE IS LAZY,NOT RESPONDENT, THANKS HE IS BETTER THEN HE REALLY IS, TRADE HIM NOW TO BE SO YOUNG IN THE LAST 2 SEASIONS AND WHEN HE PLAYS TERRIBLY HE COMES UP INJURED ‘BS’, HE IS A SLACKER, AND CANNOT BE A PRODUCTIVE HITTER.
TafSnons
February 5th, 2012
2:15 pm
best for you chanel 2011 , just clicks away
Donna
March 31st, 2012
8:17 pm
Can I quote you?