1:13 pm December 7, 2011, by David O'Brien
CineSport’s Noah Coslov sits down with David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution to discuss Braves news from the MLB Winter Meetings in Dallas.
December 7th, 20111:29 pm
couldn’t be first..make the deal!
December 7th, 20111:35 pm
Good job DOB..can’t stand pat!
December 7th, 20111:48 pm
got to get more than just smith.
December 7th, 20111:49 pm
That was basically a Seinfeld episode…..a show about nothing! DOB, almost feel a little sorry for you, that there is literally nothing new to write about.
Every team takes risk in making assumptions. Assuming that the new expensive free agent or trade will play up to (or above) potential – witness Uggla last year (tale of 2 seasons). Assuming that previously injured players will return to form (hoping for Heyward, Prado, McCann, JJ, Hanson, Huddy…wow, a long list). Assuming that the other players will play the same or better (Chipper? Freeman, all of the young pitchers, bullpen – another long list).
I don’t see any affordable (re: Liberty Media’s constraints) players out there to make this team measurably better at the cost of getting rid of up and coming players. As DOB stated, just having Mac, Prado and JH back in form will make the Braves much better – probably 3 ot 5 more wins?
December 7th, 20112:05 pm
same o f last year .. nothing !! .. wren : Braves don’t have sense of urgency at winter meetings. lmaoo .. no urgency !! hello !! marlins sign reyes , possibly pujols and buerhle .. and wren said : no urgency !!
December 7th, 20112:06 pm
December 7th, 20112:07 pm
The silence is deafening!
December 7th, 20112:09 pm
4th place in the East here we come.
December 7th, 20112:13 pm
Bill = Moron.
That picture says it all.Fat Frank and Fat Fredi sitting on their keesters without a clue.A offense that probably has questions at every position especially LF,RF,and SS and they stand pat.
December 7th, 20112:15 pm
and then they went to the meetings ..? haha to eat anything else?
Bill = Prophet
December 7th, 20112:16 pm
my predictions 2012 :
NL EAST =
1 MARLINS / 2 PHILLIES / 3 BRAVES / 4 NATS / 5 : METS
maybe , maybe braves WC .. maybe ………
4th Place Guaranteed !
December 7th, 20112:18 pm
Good work Dave. I hope Mr. Wren will work a deal to improve the Braves in left field. Carlos Quentin would be a great move. Jurrgens for Quentin sounds fair. Starting OF for a starting P.
December 7th, 20112:20 pm
What about SS Pastornicky & SP/RP Vizcaino for White Sox SS Gordon Beckham ? Hmm…
December 7th, 20112:21 pm
Last season the Braves struggled against the Marlins, Mets, Nats and the Phils. The ownership/management of the Marlins, Nats, and Phils are all improving their teams for next year. Meanwhile Liberty Media, JS, and Frank Wren sit on their hands. Only news since Oct.– the Braves fired last year’s hitting coach and we know Uggla likes prostitutes.
Braves fans: You are doomed for 2012.
December 7th, 20112:24 pm
Bobby Cox must be in on the winter meetings since all the Braves want is a second rate back-up SS and platoon LF ??? LMAO. Typical band aid approach to try to cover a mortal wound (LF)…
December 7th, 20112:25 pm
This thing is pretty simple.The strength of this team is starting pitching.Yet,not one Brave starter could start for Philly.Only 1 or 2 of the Braves starting 8 could start for Marlins,Phils,or Nats.And that my friends is the bottom line.4th place for years to come.
December 7th, 20112:26 pm
Love you to steve!
December 7th, 20112:27 pm
The Braves need to send Chipper to the scrap heap. The problem with the Braves organization is they tink the minor leaguers are the way to go. Frank didnt even need to go to the winter meetings. I dont understand while you trade JJ anyway, he is the best pitcher on the staff. Seth Smith? Give me a break, what a laugher. Talked with the wife and we are not going to mess with a season ticket renewal this year, we will find something better to do. Being at the ball park last year it was half empty, and it will be worse this season. The Braves will not spend the money to become contenders, so why pay to see a subpar team on the field. Talked to several who sat around us last year and they are feeling the same…
The Braves are counting on more wins with a healthy Heyward & Prado but don’t think about the added wins for the Marlins getting Josh Johnson back and the Nationals getting Strasburg back. Plus the Phillies with 3 aces ain’t going anywhere. 4th place looks bout rite !
December 7th, 20112:28 pm
I would hate for Wren to come up with Andruw Jones as the “power hitting left fielder” that we so desperately need….
December 7th, 20112:29 pm
pastornicky and vizcaino for beckham is hysterical. thanks, i needed that. beckham will never live up to the hype, and pastornicky is our primary 2012 SS (if all goes according to plan).
not DOB’s fault the braves haven’t done anything. no need to make a trade that doesn’t help us. our team is purty dang good for this year, just a few offensive if’s i.e. j-hey, prado, b-mac, chipper’s knees.
honestly, i’d wouldn’t mind at all if they stay put now and deal JJ at the trade deadline, hoping his stock improves. please don’t trade prado.
Platooning Is Dumb
December 7th, 20112:31 pm
If the Braves platoon in LF then I’ll know that Bobby Cox is still running the Braves. Only the dumazz Braves like to platoon infielders and outfielders (other than catcher which all teams use the back-ups).
While most teams have a star in LF hitting .300 30 100 the Braves will have a platoon that hits combined .260 14 56.
December 7th, 20112:33 pm
Just having Heyward back in good form will = 10 more wins, at least. I think some more pop in the lineup is needed probably an outfielder.
December 7th, 20112:34 pm
Diaz is a pinch hitter period.
December 7th, 20112:35 pm
Pujols getting a ten year 200million contract seems to me to be totally stupid. Why would any team tie that kind of an anchor to their future?
Bill @ 2:09 is not same Bill…more than one.
December 7th, 20112:36 pm
Diaz is a zero.
Enough with the song lyrics, this isn't Rolling Stone
December 7th, 20112:45 pm
Your recent article about Brian McCann was a bit over the top in its assessment of where he ranks over the last decade. I think of at least two catchers you didn’t mention–Piazza and Posada–who put up better numbers than McCann. Don’t get me wrong, I love B-MAc, but he’s not in Mauer’s class, and his career numbers are tracking more along the lines of Posada/Javy Lopez (which is still very good) vs. an all-time great like Piazza.
December 7th, 20112:47 pm
December 7th, 20112:49 pm
We should b tired of finishing second. Everyone n the nl east improving and wren says we’re gonna wait. We will finish 4th unless we add some pop to the lineup. To sum up wren and liberty media….CHEAP!!!!!
December 7th, 20112:51 pm
Analyzing the Marlins moves, the Braves has nothing to worry about.
- Heath Bell was pitching in the NL West where there’s no good hitting teams. The Phillies, Braves, and even the Nats have average hitting that will cause Bell to have fits.
- If Jose Reyes couldn’t get the Mets to .500, then certainly not the Marlins
- Pujols was dangerous last year because you couldn’t walk him being sandwiched between Holliday and Berkman. But with the Marlins, pitchers will pitch him inside and won’t care if they walk him.
Personally, I only worry about the players the Marlins ALREADY HAVE. Josh Johnson has Cy Young years every year and its only time until Mike Stanton bombs 50 homers a year.
December 7th, 20113:00 pm
wren doing good so far wait on a good leftfeilder dont give up anything
December 7th, 20113:06 pm
Hey DOB, I don’t know if that shirt will pass the new dress code. You better hide from the fasion police…
December 7th, 20113:07 pm
December 7th, 20113:11 pm
Get rid of Chipper? Where do these nuts come from? Chipper is a power hitting third baseman, who consistently hits well, gets on base and knows what to do in most any situation. No one on the Braves was more consistent, no one draws more fans, no one else does what he does. Those of you who blame him for being injured, forget that he didn’t get injured off the field (Like Ron Gant), he plays hard and gives it his all and even plays hurt. We don’t have anyone else in the wings to take his place. And don’t say Prado, he didn’t hit as well and made more errors. Chipper will know when it’s time to go. Pray that that day is several years down the road. I for one think we NEED Chipper Jones.
Thanks #10 for a lot of great memories and great years.
December 7th, 20113:16 pm
Braves Oldie: The Braves are glad you won’t be back. They won’t miss that negativity one bit.
I think trading JJ makes more sense than trading Prado. We need Prado to play 3B when Chipper needs time off. I love Chipper, but he can’t play 150 games a year any more. I would be surprised if he could play 125.
If FW can trim a little more payroll, I think signing Carlos Beltran to a 3/30 deal with an option to play LF would make a lot of sense. He is not the player he used to be, but he would be better than most of the other options.
December 7th, 20113:26 pm
First thing I saw from the main sports page to get to this article, “While there is no sense of urgency….” That mentality has been organization wide problem/issue here for the last 10 years.
When you always think “We’ll get em tomorrow, just gotta tip your cap” ….you wake up and there is no tomorrow.
December 7th, 20113:27 pm
agree on Beltran..Atl Insider
December 7th, 20113:31 pm
I just dont understand. We had 30 million come off the books and also was told that payroll could possibly be expanded.
Do we have that much money going out in arbitration (pay raises) that we cant do anything to better this team?
December 7th, 20113:33 pm
I honestly dont know of anyone on our team from last year that deserves millions of dollars in pay raises. most of our hitters had lousy years.
December 7th, 20113:38 pm
So the way Wren is talking, Prado is still gonna be the LF? Even if he is healthy all season, he is NOT going to give you 300 30 100. And yep, they are gonna still run Prado/Diaz out there and let Chipper pull off his Brett Favre like way of holding the payroll hostage.
December 7th, 20113:46 pm
go get Cody Ross.. he wouldn’t be that expensive and he is a good clutch hitter and clubhouse guy plus he can play in outfield, and possibly sign Punto or Betemit for the “backup SS” spot. I like Jurrjens a lot but with Boras his agent, the time to trade him for a big return is now.
December 7th, 20113:48 pm
The Good: I doubt very serious that Jason Heywood have another awful year back-to-back, doubt Dan Ugla starts off again batting near .150 the first half of the season and I serisouly doubt Brian McCann will have the kind of slump he did this past year. So given the odds of those disasters happening again this year are slim. So there is hope there.
The Bad: The Braves will be better just by the fact alone that they got rid of Derek Lowe. That’s at least 5 extra victories. Call it Addition by subtraction.
The Ugly: The Phillies are still the class of the division and they are not going anywhere. Also the Marlins are/have gotten better. And don’t sleep on the Washington Nationals – Always give us troubles.
What about bringing Kelly Johnson back to play left?
December 7th, 20114:00 pm
My wife dumped me for an older guy who uses viagra.
December 7th, 20114:03 pm
good for her
December 7th, 20114:04 pm
kelly johnson ? no way /// braves sign carlos beltran ???
December 7th, 20114:05 pm
I appreciate your honesty here in this video. The Braves absolutely need to make a serious move for 2 reasons.
1. John Scheurholtz sent out a letter to Braves season ticket holders stating that they will do anything necessary to improve this team after the epic collapse. If he doesn’t do that, he will be deemed a liar.
2. If Frank Wren really believes this team is a 95 game winning team, he is smoking some good stuff. They didn’t get to that mark last season and this team has many more question marks on it this year. Sorry, but what else is he supposed to say?
The next few days and weeks will show all the Braves fans what direction this team intends to go in. If they continue to sit on their hands and do nothing, it will tell us that they are not committed to winning. Teams that want to win and know they need help, they go out and address those needs. The Braves haven’t done that to this point, and it doesn’t look like they have any intentions on doing anything.
December 7th, 20114:06 pm
No to Punto, Kelly and Cody.
December 7th, 20114:10 pm
Let’s bring back Johnson,Furcal,Betemit and every other former Brave stiff.That should plug all the holes.
December 7th, 20114:12 pm
What about David Wright good solid hitter when healthy looks like Mets are willing to trade him could he be the outfielder we looking for .
December 7th, 20114:15 pm
Thanks, Dave. Great interview.
I saw at the bottom of the screen as you were giving your interview, that Wren feels like the Braves “Have a 95 win team”. I’m sorry, but is this man delusional? Our collapse this past season, combined with the Phillies always being great, and the Marlins potential for major improvement. We have to play those teams 36 to 38 times a year. That spells potential for disaster.
I think we need to do something: Psychologically, to get the fans excited again. If we stand pat, we will finish no better than 3rd. The Mets probably got worse, unless they do something, by losing Reyes, and one never knows how the Nationals will be. They are so young.. that one has to figure.. one of these years.
If the Braves dont do something, and they dont win the wild card in 2012, I think it will be time for both Wren and Gonzalez to lose their jobs.
If Wren really is that delusional to believe we have a 95 win team, after what happened, then let him stand pat, and be jolted into reality if we dont make a playoff spot, by losing his job.
Having Prado, Mac back will be huge. Having JJ and Hanson for the season would be even more huge…JHey resembling ‘09 would be large, as well. This, along with a season of Bourn, would/should more than makeup for the couple of games we needed to make the playoffs. Don’t forget, with everyone playing last season, we were among the four best records in all of baseball after April for the entire season, right up until the collapse…which coincided with the injuries.
December 7th, 20114:18 pm
that collapse also coincided with a pitching slump. The pitching was dynamic most of the year.
You cant expect those guys to win for you every night. You got to have a few hitters.
most of the season the majority of our hitters were batting 250 and below. you cant win with that.
December 7th, 20114:19 pm
Josh WIllingham will be available.
December 7th, 20114:22 pm
Hey at least they didn’t make a move to ruin the uniforms like the Marlins did.
Looks like Ronald Mcdonald got nothing but pastel crayons in his box.
glorydays (from SF)
Glad most of you guys are not calling the shots. Be patient. Last year Wren was criticized for making too many moves. The bargains come out later. What is the use of developing great talent, every GM in baseball will agree that is the key, if you are not willing to wait for them because of a win now dammit attititude. I prefer a long-term strategy that will pay benefits for many years.
December 7th, 20114:29 pm
DOB, what time can you start enjoying a cold brew or three with this type of gig?
December 7th, 20114:35 pm
Are you people nuts wanting Kelly Johnson back, another left hand hitter who bats around .220 and strikes out 100 or more times a season and is a lozy fielder.
We need more right handed hitters at least one that can hit for average and power and can catch a fly ball.
December 7th, 20114:37 pm
saw where the Pirates resigned Nate McLouth. good riddance to a worthles guy going back tot he same worthless team we got him from.
December 7th, 20114:43 pm
through age 27 –
Posada – .252 .345 .426 35HR 100 OPS+
Lopez – .287 .333 .499 108 HR 113 OPS+
McCann .286 .358 .486 122HR 126 OPS+
One thing is not like the others.
Josh Willingham is not the answer he might hit 20 home runs but will not hit for average and is a poor fielder. You people will be calling for his head on the chopping block after a few games.
If Prado makes a comeback after a injury plaqued season and Heyward hits like predicted along with one or two of the kid pitchers making it we will be right in the thick of it.
December 7th, 20114:46 pm
I have no idea why wren thinks 95 wins for braves when he makes no moves and everyone elsedoes
December 7th, 20114:57 pm
Fish get Buehrle.
live : MARK BUERHLE AGREES TO 4 YEAR / 58 M / DEAL WITH MARLINS !!
BRAVES 911 !!!!
“while wrens wish is to add a power-hitting outfielder” (how long have we been hearing this) “his only definite roster need is to find a veteran infielder. . .” He is looking at Nick Punto (Lord, help us) who has 14 home runs and somewhere around 20 RBIs in ten years. Unbelievable!
December 7th, 20114:58 pm
SOMEBODY CALL 911 !!
December 7th, 20114:59 pm
SOMEONE CALL 911
December 7th, 20115:00 pm
NICK PUNTO NICK CANT HIT 1 HR !! LMAOOO
when wren makes a move its backwards
December 7th, 20115:03 pm
MARLINS NL EAST CHAMPS 2012 / BRAVES 3R PLACE OR LAST PLACE
December 7th, 20115:04 pm
WREN THEORY : WAIT !! PATIENCE !! NOT WORRY ! WAIT !! PATIENCE !! NOT WORRY !
LMAO THIS GM
December 7th, 20115:05 pm
95 wins is pure rhetoric. it can’t happen unless everyone plays above realistic expectations. I read 1/2 the teams asked about Prado and 8-10 about JJ. Wren can’t get 1 good deal for either ? this is a sellers marekt for the two and he can’t auction them off for a decent return ?
3rd place is the best we can do. in a year or so, Nats will pass us. Mets may pass us in 2 yrs.
what happens this year when we play the Phils and marlins head to head ? nothing good I can
December 7th, 20115:06 pm
folks they have to play the games
December 7th, 20115:08 pm
Sky is falling the sky is falling .
December 7th, 20115:16 pm
someone call 911 …. marlins sign bell . reyes . mark buerhle ,
marlins are said out of the race to Albert Pujols but he will fall back to Prince Fielder
and the braves? well and you
December 7th, 20115:20 pm
good now we have the florida yankees
December 7th, 20115:24 pm
i want to know just who do you think we could get for jj or prado
December 7th, 20115:25 pm
raining cold here bored
December 7th, 20115:29 pm
Only news since Oct.– the Braves fired last year’s hitting coach and we know Uggla likes prostitutes. ”
Correction…Prognosticator, She was a porn star, not a prostitute. lol
December 7th, 20115:31 pm
how many braves waiting on spring training for surgery this year
December 7th, 20115:33 pm
Frank needs to realize that other teams are not seeing the value in our players for trades as we do, maybe thats why Frank hasn’t been able to do anything. I worked for a man with the same mindset and he could never understand why we couldn’t move forward.
December 7th, 20115:41 pm
a few assessments ive made:
1- Nelson, youre a tool. Marlins wont be winning any division jsut because they signed ONE pitcher, and ONE SS, Buehrle will be in a new division, in a new league, and he’s not Halliday. Reyes was already in the division with the mets, couldnt make a difference with them, wont make one in South Beach. Braves still favorite for 2nd in the division even as everything stands right now.
2- Chipper needs to retire bc he cant play 100 games anymore? Uh….dude played 127 last year, and finsihed in the top 6 of every major offensive category among third basemen, get real people.
3- Prado is not the Chipper replacement. Hes just not a third baseman. Sure he plays there when Chip sits, but i believe he also made a good bit of mistakes there last season. Hes a second baseman by nature, thats where he needs to be. Not third, not left. Simple as that. So if we can trade jhim to a team that needs a solid 2B and we get good return on it, pull the trigger.
thats just a few things ive seen so far. stay tuned
soon to be Winter of George
We’re still waiting for things to heat up on the Braves roster. What’s it gonna take?
And after signing Reyes, the Marlins will NEVER get Pujols. They will regret that Reyes contract, and may not ever be able to dump it after he’s toast.
Typical Marlins, try to buy a championship every 10 years and then dump it all after winning.
Be nice if the Braves could hurry up and get a good owner.
What’s the latest on that DOB?
December 7th, 20115:46 pm
Just read that the Marlins signed pitcher Mark Burhele, and made a big offer to Albert Pujols.
If Florida signs all their intended players, and both the Marlins and Phillies are healthy, those teams should finish 1-2 in the NL East, with one as the NL East champ, and the other the wild card.
The Braves? They should just fire Frank Wren. Its apparent this yutz isnt looking to do anything to compete with what has become a very tough division.
December 7th, 20115:48 pm
MLBTrade Rumors said Marlins have moved on from Pujols, then went after Burhele. Im thinkin that offer from the Cards’ got Pujols thinkin he wants to stay put in STL. He wont be playing in Miami, except when STL plays down there
December 7th, 20115:50 pm
PITCHING pitching thats all wren thinks about. If you dont score runs; you dont win. Braves finish last.
December 7th, 20115:51 pm
hey loser ohhhh yeahhh , mow marlins have josh johson and now mark buerhle … try to sign c.j. wilson …
Stuck in Wichita
4th place would be one higher than I was thinking. Chipper’s line at year end: BA 215; HR 2; RBI 11; Runs 8; Injuries 10.
“Dang, Shudda retired last year. Oh well, may as well go another year”
December 7th, 20115:53 pm
uh….theyve had josh johnson moron. and TWO pitchers dont make a division championship bud. “trying” to acquire CJ is much different than actually acquiring him. but thanks for trying
December 7th, 20115:55 pm
The Braves is a cheap team they never have 1 cent to spend in off season . I have NEVER heard of any team that has had 14 titles in 20 years and a world series and yet never get a big name . they need to go after Albert and sign him to a 160 million dollar 10 year deal with free rides and free food and also give him a new car . If the braves do not start spending money they will be known as the cheap boys of the MLB
December 7th, 20116:04 pm
Also I think its dumb to write stories about nothing ? The last time the braves has a good headline it was about not making the playoffs . Until something BIG happens do we even need a story ?
December 7th, 20116:06 pm
i guess Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux, Lopez, JD Drew, Sheffield, David Justice, McGriff, and oh yeah….CHIPPER JONES, arent big enough names for you? do you know how many teams would STILL love to have Chipper in their line up?
December 7th, 20116:27 pm
I guess Wren is waiting on the Rule 5 draft tomorrow and the reject list that comes out on Monday. Geez….
December 7th, 20116:29 pm
My predictions for 2012
1.PHILLIES 2.MARLINS 3.NATS 4.BRAVES 5.METS
Remember Mr. WRENN all that wonderful and clutch hitting that was done by the Braves in 2011. Stand Pat and do nothing and you will be passed by the Mets also.I just don’t see how you can be happy with what’s coming back with the bats we have seen for the past two years. Hitting is just awful and you know it.
December 7th, 20116:32 pm
Will there have to be a second John Scheurholtz letter explaining why the Braves do nothing?
December 7th, 20116:39 pm
The Marlins have gone plum crazy handing out all the outrageous contracts. They paid Reyes much more than he was worth and they say they are not finished yet. Why don’t all the high price free agents just go on down there and see what they will pay them. They are nuts! They may not have but 8000-10000 fans in that new stadium each night or they could have smaller crowds like they had in the old stadium and dishing out all these lavish contracts. Somebody must have some money down there. They have in my opinion overpaid all 3 free agents they have signed . They claim they are still after Pujols too. Why don’t they sign Prince Fielder and use him as their pinch hitter.I thought the Yankees and the Red Sox were stupid but the Marlins have them beat. Unreal!
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