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ncscoots
November 30th, 2011
2:56 pm
there have been plenty of “flavors of the week” catchers come and go
Soto. Navarro. Others who are obviously easily forgotten, since I can’t remember them.
Piazza would hit 30-40 dingers every year, and fans would moan about his passed balls. Go figure.
jeffrey d
November 30th, 2011
2:56 pm
Yogi did it.
Stole picnic baskets?
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
2:59 pm
jeffrey – That would be “pic -i-nic” for Yogi, and he had Boo Boo to help.
He Hate Me
November 30th, 2011
3:00 pm
Jason Heyward is a BUST! Please trade him now while you MIGHT get something in return! This time next year will be too late but bank on him going .200 ish again with about 13 HR and 70 rbi.
Selfish player from a selfish family. Good riddance!
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:01 pm
I’m sure Mac could do it. I’d just rather it be for lesser than 18-20 million.
Arkansas Transplant
November 30th, 2011
3:02 pm
RC, Detroit has been mentioned as one of the possible teams very interested in Prado but was thought to not want to move Jackson. Although I think moving Prado would have to bring a greater return than just Jackson but giving Bourn in the deal would allow us to bring one of their top 3 prospect back in return and also give them a replacement CF.
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
3:03 pm
Some catchers have had remarkable longevity, in light of the demands of the position. Many have not. No way to know how long Mac will hold up. We DO know he is the best catcher in the NL, and maybe MLB. Some Bozos….err…individuals here don’t seem to get that, but you can ask anyone around baseball….players, managers, analysts, and unbiased knowledgeble fans…overwhelming majority agree he’s currently an elite catcher.
ncscoots
November 30th, 2011
3:04 pm
AT, who would hit leadoff? Because I’m hoping that you don’t plan to hit Jackson there.
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
3:05 pm
HHM – Yeah, say outragious things, stir that pot, and see how much attention you can get… classic case of “look at me, please look at me”.
jim
November 30th, 2011
3:07 pm
Like someone posted a bit earlier, McCann’s numbers for an OF or corner IF position are good, but not outstanding. If the Braves could get Molina-like production and good D out of Bethancourt or someone else a catcher, and McCann-like numbers from LF or 3B (after Chipper) we’d be OK. I’m in the reluctant to extend group because it does not make sense to give more than 3 years to a 30 year old catcher (in 2013) at the money Mac could command on the open market. If the NL had a DH, the discussion would be a lot different, but
1) Many catchers have declined precipitusly after 32-33 years old — Bench, Carter, Campy, Yogi (he played semi-regularly in LF late into his career, but look at the power numbers)
2) Mac does not have another position — offense is nice, but defense does matter too
3) Mac has had problems with his eyes, and vision does not get better with age. If he were to have vision problems in the middle of a big contract, the team would be screwed.
There are three options:
1) extend him now
2) wait and see until after 2012 or 2013
3) trade him now
1) If Mac could be extended to 2015 by taking ~16 million/year, then do it, but it Makes no sense for him. His value as a FA catcher at 32 years old would not be worth nearly as much as it would be as a 30 year old in 2013. Extension now make no sense for the team or the player
2) wait until next year or 2013 — the most prudent option, but te chance of signing a bad contract or getting nothing for the player are increased.
3) Trade him now. Given his age and contract status, he will never be worth more in a trade. Makes sense if you are building for the future and willing to live with Ross for a year or two until you determine if/when Bethancourt is the answer. (I am not as sold on the Braves chances next year with a few tweaks to last year’s team as many on this blog, and would not be upset by this option if we got good young return — I would do the Mac for Justin Upton trade someone mentioned earlier if the finances were right in a heartbeat)
ncscoots
November 30th, 2011
3:07 pm
On another note: Bobby bleepin’ Valentine? Marrying up with Ben Cherington? How long could that possibly last?
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:07 pm
Selfish player from a selfish family. Good riddance!
What the heck is that suppose to mean?
By the way, did anyone know that Bill Shanks has it on authority that Jason Heyward doesn’t love baseball?
I guess that means Baseball : Jason :: Prospects : Efrim ? Is that even the right symbol usage?
Arkansas Transplant
November 30th, 2011
3:07 pm
ncscoots, pastor possibly.
RC
November 30th, 2011
3:09 pm
ncscoots,
Prado would hit leado…..ohhhhhhhh.
RC
November 30th, 2011
3:09 pm
ncscoots,
Constanza would hit leadoff….long as he has the hot hand.
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:09 pm
Bobby V owns a couple restaurants in the Norwalk/Stamford, CT area(my hometown area). Came to my parents place once and was a really nice dude to my fam. I’m not sure “discipline needed” and Bobby V makes sense though, right?
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:10 pm
Tigers re-signed INF Ramon Santiago to a two-year contract.
nolie
November 30th, 2011
3:10 pm
Baseball America Best Defensive catcher—not that they could possibly be more knowledgeable than the board haters…..
2010-Molina, McCann, Olivo
2011 Molina, Ruiz, McCann
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:11 pm
hah, nolie. Make sure you post it on every page. Or half page.
Murph
November 30th, 2011
3:12 pm
I like when people give predictions for players that are overly specific… Heyward will hit 13 HR, 71 RBI, including going 1-4 in the final game of the season with a single to right field in the 7th inning on 1-2 count with the bases empty and a gametime temperature of 72 degrees, slight breeze out of the south at 8mph, and Rick Perry watching on TV from his hotel room having just finished a leftover waffle from that morning’s room service brought to his room by a homely woman named Patrice.
nolie
November 30th, 2011
3:12 pm
I noticed that earlier I said 5 years 90 mil, I meant 5 years 80 mil.
fumblefingers
RC
November 30th, 2011
3:12 pm
Bill Shanks has a lot of things on authority. Unfortnately one of them isn’t working knowledge of how to evaluate baseball players.
BradB
November 30th, 2011
3:12 pm
If the Braves do not re-sign McCann, the entire fan base will be up in arms. He has been the only reason to watch the Braves for the past few years and he only he had a down second half due to his injury. He will be back, as will the Braves in 2012.
nolie
November 30th, 2011
3:13 pm
good idea Efrim. If I do it enuff maybe the idiots will get so tired of it that they drop the subject…
unlikely I guess, but I might give it a shot
ncscoots
November 30th, 2011
3:15 pm
Trade him now. Given his age and contract status, he will never be worth more in a trade.
There’s a point at which every player hits your “never be worth more in a trade” position. The problem is that same point is usually when he’s worth the most to your team by being on it.
The philosophy of maximizing a player’s value by receiving future potential always fails to account for the value of actually paying and keeping the player. It’s short-sighted, to me. Such a philosphy only guarantees that the team never puts the best team possible on the field, given financial constraints and available personnel. Such a team will always be “a year or two away”.
I have to admit, I’m not a big fan of that.
nolie
November 30th, 2011
3:16 pm
now I gotta admit that I do not quite see him as a top three NL defensive catcher myself, but I damn sure KNOW that he is not the klutz that so many here portray him as, though I also believe that we have a Lou/Earl situation with a number of the McChubb haters
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:17 pm
I noticed that earlier I said 5 years 90 mil, I meant 5 years 80 mil.
fumblefingers
I figured as much as you referenced 16 a year.
Tomas was talking 20 million per year. Mac is my favorite, but I just can’t do that.
Bobby Hill
November 30th, 2011
3:17 pm
DOB,
I’m not complaining about the blog topic, I’m just lamenting the fact that there’s not much going on right now.
ScottBravesFan
November 30th, 2011
3:17 pm
They better sign McCann up. He’s the face of the franchise once Chipper retires.
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
3:18 pm
nolie – Do we really want to keep a guy who is the best hitter, but only the 2nd or 3rd best defensively for his position?
nolie
November 30th, 2011
3:19 pm
good question raleigh, I will have to cogitate on that one a while
nolie
November 30th, 2011
3:20 pm
no I caint see 20mil or even near it
DawgDad
November 30th, 2011
3:22 pm
So much wrongheaded analysis in this article. First, the decision on McCann should be all about McCann and his inherent downside risk, not about other prospects. The Braves need to think very long and hard about investing multiple millions over multiple years in any single player. The team has not demonstrated acute acumen in making these types of commitments, and a catcher with a lot of games under his belt, limited mobility and ability to play other positions, with health issues and coming off a horrible second half is not a good long-term risk.
Similarly, Wren should go into trade talks with an open mind. Pastornicky is a low-value commodity at this point, nothing special to bet your future on. If the Rockies want to trade Tulowitzki for JJ, Prado, and TP, or JJ, McCann, and TP, best give that serious consideration.
Of COURSE the Braves need another starting outfielder, or two. They haven’t fielded a full complement for years, and Bourn is a Boras client. They also need dependable starting pitching and pieces to plug into the bullpen.
They might want to address the fact the second and third basemen aren’t worth half the money they earn, and the only significant upside potential is one of them retiring.
McFann O O o
November 30th, 2011
3:22 pm
ncscoots I’m archiving some of these comments, so I can retrieve them easily when some no-lumber defensive whiz of a catcher hits .230 and gets excoriated here by the same folks making the posts I’m archiving.
They’ll deny it, of course…
nolie
November 30th, 2011
3:23 pm
another pollyanna heard from
VaBravesFan
November 30th, 2011
3:23 pm
McCann will get around 13-15 mil a season from the Braves, I just dont see them going much higher than that.
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:23 pm
There’s a point at which every player hits your “never be worth more in a trade” position.
There are a certain few who constantly post blogs and tweets(everyone knows who I am talking about) about trading EVERY player because they are 2 years away from free agency for future value. Makes no sense to me. I’m all for prospects too.
And I probably would of been okay with Jurrjens and Prado going – as long as My boy Beltran was in LF and Big Game was in the rotation for half of what he made in 2011. Not happening. But that’s pretty much the only scenario I liked.
nolie
November 30th, 2011
3:27 pm
McCann will likely make more that 13mil in 2013 Va.at least if the Mayans were wrong anyway
unlikely he will sign a contract with no raises
Sopheee
November 30th, 2011
3:28 pm
We can throw these around again. Maybe knock some sense into certain people.
http://i43.tinypic.com/5mbam0.jpg
Brave New World
November 30th, 2011
3:30 pm
McCann can flat out hit. He is a decent, but not great, defensive catcher. We have him for at least 2 more years, but I would think the Braves would want him for at least 3 more beyond that. Beyond 5 years gets risky, especially for a catcher.
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:32 pm
McCann will likely make more that 13mil in 2013 Va.at least if the Mayans were wrong anyway
I keep forgetting about the Mayan long count calendar. Oh, that should be fun this time next year.
ncscoots
November 30th, 2011
3:32 pm
But that’s pretty much the only scenario I liked.
Keep Zeke. Everything else, I’m good with.
cricket
November 30th, 2011
3:33 pm
They might want to address the fact the second and third basemen aren’t worth half the money they earn, and the only significant upside potential is one of them retiring.
trade chipper’s expiring contract, his value will never be higher…
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:35 pm
That’s hilarious, Soph.
ncscoots
November 30th, 2011
3:35 pm
trade chipper’s expiring contract, his value will never be higher…
Kimbrel and Freeman. No chance their value will ever be higher, is there? 1 and 2 in ROY, and five years of club control? Oughta be able to get a boatload for those two.
Jimmy
November 30th, 2011
3:35 pm
The McCann issue is two years out. Alot can happen in two years.
DOB certainly got the fire started.
Looking at the HOF ballot, I see only two names I would vote for:
Jack Morris and Jeff Bagwell.
Murph is borderline and none of the others warrant HOF status.
wjones
November 30th, 2011
3:36 pm
Those who think McCann won’t get an opportunity to DH in the NL, remember that starting in 2013 the NL gets to play interleague games weekly, so a minimum of at least one NL team will play interleague ball EVERY WEEK. Whether this translates into more interleague games is anyone’s guess, but the possibility is certainly there.
cricket
November 30th, 2011
3:38 pm
trade bethancourt after next year, his value will never be higher…
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
3:39 pm
Constantly trading your best players at peak value = Constant mediocrety, and endless state of rebuilding.
When was the last time Oakland and Pittsburg went to the WS…or even post-season?
ncscoots
November 30th, 2011
3:41 pm
Trade the Latin Trio while they are still prospects and before they go bust. Value will never be higher.
(I mean, that’s the logical end to that whole train of thought, isn’t it, LOL? If two years away from FA is good, then surely four or five years away is better, no? And better still, if you can trade them before they have any service time at all, then that has to be best, right? Right?)
Murph
November 30th, 2011
3:41 pm
trade bethancourt after next year, his value will never be higher…
That’s assuming he continues to play the way he did in the AFL and doesn’t revert back to what he’s done the rest of his career.
If he’s going to be traded, now might be the best time to max out on his return.
ncscoots
November 30th, 2011
3:45 pm
The blog should probably trade me, too; pretty bleepin’ sure that my value will never be higher.
P'cola Brave
November 30th, 2011
3:45 pm
I’m suprised we haven’t seen the people calling for a BJ Upton trade out in full force wanting him for LF this year. I may end up stirring all that up with this post but I’d imagine hes a trade candidate. But then again he will probably end up being to expensive.
bravesgrl4Life
November 30th, 2011
3:45 pm
KEEP MCCANN!!!!!!!!!! I’d like to see Mac have the Braves career Chipper has had. And I was a big ole Javy fan back in the day, so for me to feel so strong about another catcher says something, at least to me. But I proudly wear my #16 jersey to every game I attend.
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
3:47 pm
wjones – Actually, it’s not “anybody’s guess”. They said on XM that you would play about the same # of interleague games per year, they’d just be spread out. If you or I or anyone else bothered to take the time to figure it up mathmatically, you can predict almost exactly how many interleague games there would be…
and the answer is…not enough interleague games for a NL team to pay a guy $15 mil to DH.
FlyOnTheWall
November 30th, 2011
3:48 pm
Anybody know how many of those stolen bases Mac gave up was when Hanson was pitching? You have to throw all of those bases out because they were already stolen before Hanson got the ball out of his glove.
I’d be looking at moving Hanson before Mac…if anybody would have him.
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:49 pm
trade bethancourt after next year, his value will never be higher…
Don’t forget Venters, because all relievers are expensive through free agency and that means we have to cash in on Jonny with him 4 years away from hitting the open market.
Tex like haul, book it.
Linebrinks Security
November 30th, 2011
3:50 pm
If the Braves are looking to trade one Jurrjens and one Prado (imo, two very good players) then why wouldn’t they want to drop Mac because they don’t want to pay him a lot? I’m hoping that’s not the case. “Brian McCann is the future of the Braves … at least until he costs a lost and his replacement is found”.
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:50 pm
I’d be looking at moving Hanson before Mac…if anybody would have him.
Yeah, I mean he’s the best pitcher in the organization if healthy. But please, get him outta here.
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
3:51 pm
scoots – Yeah, you have a point, although you will always be worth more here than we pay you. I’m, as they say, “day to day”.
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:51 pm
Pcola, I’ve been surprised by the lack of Bossman Junior trade scenarios. I just don’t think we match up with them. They have a pitching surplus and so do we.
Steve
November 30th, 2011
3:52 pm
I love McCann for his abilitiy, professionalism and leadership.
That being said I consider it a golden rule of baseball to NEVER sign a catcher about to enter his 30’s to a long-term deal. Unless my math is wrong he will be 29 by the time the vesting options run out if the Braves don’t re-up him before that time. That is pushing it for a catcher .. especially one that has played as many innings in the hot Southern summers as Brian has.
As a Braves fan I think the contract should be limited to around age 34 or so, but that might not be enough to keep him. when you look at catchers like Piazza, IRod, Varitek, Posada, Javy Lopez, Johny Bench hundreds of others, they all started really back-sliding around 34-35 and that was during the steroid age. Prior to the steroid age, most catchers started their declines between 30-32.
You just don’t want to get stuck with some huge contract for a declining player, especially if you have a decent replacement available for $10+ million a year less that needs to get experience anyway.
I really hope McCann stays with the Braves for a series of rolling options that might be ‘acheivement’ based, though I think most of those type contracts are illegal in the last CBA(except for basic stats like games played). My guess is he will get offered 5-6 years by an AL team to catch/DH and the Braves would simply be silly to match that based only on making him a fan friendly franchise player.
As for Chipper, he may be a fan based franchise player contract type of guy, but based on pure stats he is still one of the top 3-4 third baseman in the NL. In fact, he was only one of three full time third baseman that had 500 ab’s in the NL last year .. despite missing games for a cleanup surgery. The fact he did that and still finished in the top 5 in third baseman in BA, Avg, and RBI in the NL is crazy.
McFann O O o
November 30th, 2011
3:53 pm
Sopheee—
Heck yeah!!…
bravesgrl4life!!!
Great to read from you again! How’s everything going?
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:53 pm
A whole two signings today: David DeJesus and Ramon Santiago
Hot Stove is burning. I can’t take it.
P'cola Brave
November 30th, 2011
3:54 pm
Flyonthewall
I posted it this morning on page 3 or 4. While Hanson was on the mound basestealers were successful 30 times out of 33 and 26 of 30 with Lowe on mound.
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:54 pm
I just read a Cubs Top 15 prospects list. Both Chicago teams: 29 and 30.
RC
November 30th, 2011
3:54 pm
If the Braves are looking to trade one Jurrjens and one Prado (imo, two very good players) then why wouldn’t they want to drop Mac because they don’t want to pay him a lot?
Because while JJ and Prado are very good players, they are also relatively easily replaced, and can bring assets in return that the Braves need and can use. With 8 potential starting pitchers on the team, JJ is expendable if he can help the team fill another hole. And while Prado is a good player, he is much more valuable as a 2b than as a LF, so if the Braves can receive a LF of comparable value to Prado’s value as a 2b back, it could be an upgrade for both teams.
McCann is the #1 catcher in the major leagues. That is not easily replacable, or really replacable at all. In order for trading McCann to “make sense” they would need to have a way of getting a player of similar value that plays catcher back, and those guys just don’t exist.
ncscoots
November 30th, 2011
3:55 pm
I’m, as they say, “day to day”.
Ain’t we all, brother, ain’t we all.
Bobby Hill
November 30th, 2011
3:55 pm
I think that an ideal pitching rotation is a mix of young guys and veterans. Even if the Braves could field a rotation with Beachy, Minor, Teharan, and Delgado all at the same time in a couple of years, I don’t think that’s really a recipe for success.
Why not trade Delgado for a high upsdie, CF concept?
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
3:56 pm
Steve – You must be wrong about Chipper. Just read the blog to know he’s an overpaid hack. By all means, don’t confuse us with the FACTS.
P'cola Brave
November 30th, 2011
3:56 pm
Efrim
Agreed. I don’t know if they’d take a stab at some of our lesser prospects and I don’t think they need Prado. Not that I’m advocating for BJ but I just don’t know where a fit is with them. Plus the guy K’s a lot. Really suprised he hasn’t been thrown around more though. He will probably end up one of those quiet trades that happen next week if he gets moved.
RC
November 30th, 2011
3:56 pm
Efrim,
I think the Upton scenarios died with the Bourn trade, since both will be free agents next year.
Efrim
November 30th, 2011
3:59 pm
RC, true. They probably haven’t talked much.
Ward
November 30th, 2011
4:01 pm
Hello everyone! Braves are not going to trade Mac,and he’s a good enough person to sign a nice deal ,and work with. I’ll bet my life on it……a little humor.
cricket
November 30th, 2011
4:01 pm
Tex like haul, book it.
For any trade, may all braves’ hauls be Tex-like and may all the returns be Grienke-like..
DAP
November 30th, 2011
4:01 pm
bobby hill Why not trade Delgado for a high upsdie, CF concept?
id like to get more than a concept…maybe a actual, physical baseball player. or maybe they could throw in a couple of warm fuzzies and one of a goal or aspiration along with the CF concept?
Ward
November 30th, 2011
4:02 pm
Now that Bobby Valentine is Boston manager, he can get all the chicken he wants…….
Ward
November 30th, 2011
4:03 pm
Bourn, will sign a contract like Ugglas’ and it will be within reason…..
RC
November 30th, 2011
4:03 pm
I love when baseball projection sites use “comparable” players for people that are about as uncomparable as two human beings can be. Dan Szymborski’s ZIPS projections for the SF Giants came out today, and Tim Lincecum has the following “comparables”:
Comp 1: Kevin Appier
Comp 2: Bartolo Colon*
Comp 3: Bob Welch
*Emboldened to emphasize girth
FlyOnTheWall
November 30th, 2011
4:05 pm
P’cola Brave
November 30th, 2011
3:54 pm
Flyonthewall
I posted it this morning on page 3 or 4. While Hanson was on the mound basestealers were successful 30 times out of 33 and 26 of 30 with Lowe on mound.
Thanks…I tried to read the whole blog but missed your post…I’m not surprised at the D Lowe stat either…Hanso will never be injury free unless he changes that delivery…we need to dump him while we can still get something for him.
RC
November 30th, 2011
4:05 pm
Bourn, will sign a contract like Ugglas’ and it will be within reason…..
Which one? Will he sign a contract like Uggla’s, or will it be within reason?
TennesseePaul
November 30th, 2011
4:07 pm
Yogi did it.
Shut your mouth.
Ward
November 30th, 2011
4:09 pm
Do your really think Wren will let Bourn go? Come on get real…….
TennesseePaul
November 30th, 2011
4:09 pm
For any trade, may all braves’ hauls be Tex-like and may all the returns be Grienke-like…
…and may all players given up be Chuck Thomas-like, and may the Mets always lose.
Ward
November 30th, 2011
4:10 pm
meant to say do you.
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
4:10 pm
I’d also bet Ward’s life that we don’t trade McCann.
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
4:10 pm
Enter your comments here
P'cola Brave
November 30th, 2011
4:11 pm
Flyonthewall
I kinda agree with you there on Hanson. I’d almost rather hold onto JJ and move Hanson because I think the greater injuries lie within Hanson. He scares me and I’m just waiting on the time he will need shoulder/elbow surgery.
raleighbravefan
November 30th, 2011
4:11 pm
Don’t know how that happened.
Ward
November 30th, 2011
4:11 pm
RC – Are you really Braves Fan,or some one who just comes on the blog to stir crap up?
Bay Area Steve
November 30th, 2011
4:12 pm
“*Emboldened to emphasize girth”
How good is that? Must be what Charlie Sheen meant by winning…
Ward
November 30th, 2011
4:13 pm
Muurp – Is right, we are not going to hear anything until Dallas.
RC
November 30th, 2011
4:14 pm
RC – Are you really Braves Fan,or some one who just comes on the blog to stir crap up?
Is neither an option? I simply don’t think that Bourn is worth an Uggla-like contract.
Ward
November 30th, 2011
4:14 pm
Murph- I thinks it’s too early to even talk about Bethancourt,so let him mature in the minors.What do you think?
P'cola Brave
November 30th, 2011
4:15 pm
I don’t know that Wren will resign Bourn. Boras will push him as an elite defensive CF with great speed and want a suitable contract. Really Bourn has up and down years every year. Ones good, the other bad. He was having a career year in Houston and came to Atlanta and put up numbers more near his career line. I have a hard time wanting to go anymore than 10 mil for him and that is even really a stretch. Speed doesn’t necessarily age well and we’ve never been a big running team.
Ward
November 30th, 2011
4:16 pm
RC – We will just have to see,but I have a good feeling Bourn, will be a Brave .Boras has been getting a lot a of negatives with the Free Agent Market lately.
RC
November 30th, 2011
4:17 pm
Anyone know if Adam Kennedy getting a major league deal qualifies him for the Sushi list?
DS1
November 30th, 2011
4:20 pm
Bobby Valentine and the Boston press. Should be interesting.
Is the Cliff Floyd story true? He says that BV called him to tell him he was going to the All Star game. Cliff bought his tickets only to find he was not on the All Star team.
BV is a great baseball mind, but as far as I’m concerned, you can have him.
Bat Masterson
November 30th, 2011
4:20 pm
Good read DOB, thanks.
Heap’s a good topic to drive page hits. Not to mention one that will bring out the stupid constituency and give them an opportunity to show off such.
DS1
November 30th, 2011
4:21 pm
David DeJesus gets 2 years and 10 million??
Boy, ten million doesn’t buy much any more…………