9:51 pm November 29, 2011, by David O'Brien
December 2nd, 20111:42 am
Good night, good people of the blog, as I look forward to my one day with only one hour of work…
December 2nd, 20111:47 am
Good night, good people of the blog… — Venice Jim
I’d say, good night, right back at you, VJ… but it’s obvious that you weren’t talking to me.
Oh, what the hell?!? Good night, Jim.
December 2nd, 20111:58 am
tom, as long as you have rodgers who extends plays. you will win.
never scene a QB better.
December 2nd, 20112:00 am
the guy is on a different plane. better then brady, better arm then drew. he is the best.
December 2nd, 20112:04 am
uga-brave: I’m with you on REM. No bigger or better band during my college years, which started a few years before yours and overlapped for a couple. I saw the Murmur tour on campus at KU in 1983, then saw them every year for probably the next five or six (they used to put out an album a year and tour extensively each year).
For me in college it was REM, Replacements, Husker Du, The Clash and The Smiths.
December 2nd, 20112:09 am
what no whitesnake?
December 2nd, 20112:13 am
Hello everyone! Just bought a new game Crysis 2 fro Play Station 3. Im already enjoying BattleField 3.
Damn, and I don’t care much for any of those bands
December 2nd, 20112:14 am
I”m going to play some games to take my mind off the trade rumors ……..
dont tell N8.
dob, went to ELLA at the end at tocco hills . bought some really good stuff. tell don i miss that record store.
bought some old smiths stuff. still think tim was their best.
December 2nd, 20112:19 am
dob, you should repost the stuff when you used to mind the cash register their.
especially when bravehaeart walked into the store.
December 2nd, 20112:21 am
bas, i think i fouled there or their. dont tell jeff d..
December 2nd, 20112:29 am
Since your talking about bands. I listen to The Doors,Bad Company,Guns N’Roses, Kiss, Rolling Stones,Metallica,and ACDC. Dire Straights…….Bands like that.I grew up listening to all these.
December 2nd, 20112:37 am
A good Meallica CD, Is Metallica S&M. Great CD…….
December 2nd, 20112:40 am
Let me correct that Metallica CD. Metallica S&M.They play with the San Francisco Sympony Orchestra. Really done well.
December 2nd, 20112:44 am
It was different ,but cool the mix of Heavy Metal with Symphony Orchestra.I listen to the CD a lot,and like the blend.
December 2nd, 20112:59 am
And I’m about as strange a bird as there is music wise. Learned to play guitar with Hank Williams (not Jr) and Merle Haggard in the mid 60’s. Was hooked on Chicago as my younger brother became a sax player. Then got into country rock with the Eagles.
I kind quit on new bands in my 30’s (from ‘85 on). Not saying the new stuff is bad, I just didn’t get into it. I was a new dad then.
Now I like most classic rock, some 70’s and early 80’s rock n roll, and country. (but not the “new” country) It ain’t a thang if it ain’t got some twang.
Favorite songs of all time are Nights in White Satin (love the orchestra), Roundabout, Baby’s Gotten Good at Goodbye, Your Cheatin Heart, The Boys of Summer, China Grove and Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress.
Now if that don’t run the gamut……….
Watching a DVD of Chicago and Earth Wind and Fire at the Greek in LA in 2004. Nothing like old rockers.
December 2nd, 20113:01 am
Eagles were a great band too….
December 2nd, 20113:05 am
N8- Hope I didn’t annoy you,but wasn’t critizing your post.I’ll make sure to read your post more clearly. You have some well thought out post.Don’t always agree with you,but you do make sense when you speak.There are times I do agree with you too. Hope it’s all cool.
December 2nd, 20113:06 am
If we have heard about any band, then a lot of folks liked them enough to buy enough albums to put them on the music map.
Got no qualms about anybody’s music. I just know what I like, and I’m real comfortable with it.
December 2nd, 20113:13 am
DS1- Same here. It’s interesting to hear what people like…….You just have to be comfortable……I agree.
December 2nd, 20113:15 am
DS1- Y ou have to have your own flow,and blend……I hear you……
December 2nd, 20113:27 am
Well, I’m going to head off. Long night…….All have a good one,and peace……Going to play some games…….
December 2nd, 20114:02 am
Well, all quiet on the blog-front.
December 2nd, 20114:18 am
RF STEFAN GARTRELL [.067 BA] 1-5, 1 R, 1 2B , 2 SO. STEF is off to a slow start this winter.
No BRAVES played.
1B ERNESTO MEJIA [.286 BA] 1-3, 1 R, 1 2B , 1 BB, 1 SO.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. FAILED)
December 2nd, 20116:00 am
Time to liven up the old blog……………..
Dan Uggla’s been a bad boy, or a real stud depending on your perspective. Seems Danny boy and an adult film starlette by the name of Bibi Jones hooked up some time in the past.
December 2nd, 20117:12 am
jeffrey d (December 1st, 2011 1:13 pm): “Or….we could just accept that there’s 2 sides to every argument. The Braves aren’t perfect, but there are flaws.”
Maybe it’s just me, but “aren’t perfect”/”have flaws” sounds like the same side of the argument.
Steve from OH
December 2nd, 20117:22 am
Cool stuff on the Isbell interview DOB, look forward to reading it.
You gotta be pretty excited too, eh?
December 2nd, 20117:35 am
December 2nd, 20117:39 am
Thanks for the Link Coach
Dann Uggla is a Lucky S.O.B.
December 2nd, 20118:13 am
Marlins have agreed to terms with Closer Heath Bell on a 3 year deal.
December 2nd, 20118:14 am
It also has an option for a 4th year. Deal is pending a physical.
December 2nd, 20118:28 am
Great news on the Isbell interview DOB. Ask him about his van and trailer getting stolen and all the bands instruments and PA gone.
Ask him what guitar he is playing now. That Duesenberg sounded awesome!
December 2nd, 20118:29 am
I also think Isbell’s newest album is the best ever from him or the DBTs.
It is incredible.
December 2nd, 20118:31 am
McCutchen makes no sense to trade for. He’s a leadoff low power hitter and we’ve got M.Bourn. Teheran will be an ace for 10+ years. Pitching is always more valuable than hitting in MLB. Braves need a SS and power hitting LF and they will be set. Marlins signed closer Heath Bell. Braves better upgrade their offense or they might be looking at 4th place in the division this coming year…
December 2nd, 20118:34 am
Anybody posting from 7:00am to 7:00am the next day is pathetic and obviously doesn’t have a job…
December 2nd, 20118:39 am
We need a healthy ADAM MILLIGAN for LF and TYLER PASTORNICKY at SS and we’re set. Voila, top of the division and WS bound. Who needs other people’s cast-offs?
December 2nd, 20118:40 am
McCan’t possibly have that much to say.
December 2nd, 20118:42 am
What do you think normal people are doing at 4:00am richbrave ? Sleeping. We got to work the next day unlike you…
December 2nd, 20118:43 am
So, everyone is pathetic and jobless?
December 2nd, 20118:44 am
richbrave’s 4:02am blog : “Well, all quiet on the blog-front.”
Nope. Just you.
December 2nd, 20118:46 am
December 2nd, 20118:48 am
the Pirates would not want Prado, they would want CHEAP and good. 2 of our big three and one or two more like Hoover or Pastor
Agreed. Teheran, Vizcaino, Pastornicky, and Hoover. 3 Top 10 prospects(2 Top overall 50 guys).
And I’m not sure the Pirates would do it anyway.
December 2nd, 20118:50 am
Heath Bell for three years, 27 million. Depends on that vesting option. 4 years, 36 million is too rich for my blood. Thank you Frank for not ever investing long term dollars into a closer.
December 2nd, 20118:56 am
Gotta hurt real bad for Mets fans if the Marlins get Reyes for less than 100 million. I still think the Marlins get him…although the Tigers could surprise I guess.
December 2nd, 20119:08 am
Brian Cashman rappelling down a 22-story building in Stamford, Connecticut(my hometown area).
December 2nd, 20119:16 am
I am thinking that the Braves are going to go with Tyler P as the shortstop with a vet like Edgar Renteria as the backup.
Edgar can help teach Tyler P the ways of the big leagues.
If they trade Prado, then the utility guy they get to replace him should play SS,2B and 3B.
December 2nd, 20119:17 am
A really smart baseball exec explained how the thinking on pursuing Fielder may have changed. To structure a championship club, he noted, you need two excellent starting pitchers, a good closer, and two middle-of-the-order hitters — mashers, guys who can do some serious damage. – Buster Olney
December 2nd, 20119:25 am
Re: Buster’s comment, the Braves are an incredibly deep major league roster. And their farm system is deep as well, although only 3 elite type(top 100) prospects at the top and a drop off after that. Still, depth at the major league level in starting pitching, bullpen, and every position filled with a potential above average starter. All that said, they may lack the elite stars at the top. McCann is there at Catcher. Uggla at 2nd base, relative to the rest of the other 2nd sackers. Adding one elite bat in the middle of the order would really raise this team. Just a quick observation on my part.
December 2nd, 20119:28 am
And maybe Heyward is healthy, with a better swing and goes nuts for .290/.380/.500 – then we’d have our middle of the order stick.
To structure a championship club, he noted, you need two excellent starting pitchers, a good closer, and two middle-of-the-order hitters — mashers, guys who can do some serious damage.
Even though I’ve said the exact same thing here many times, I am not the “really smart baseball exec” quoted by Buster. Honest.
December 2nd, 20119:31 am
If the Marlins are really going to sped (and I choke as I type this) ONLY $27 million, then the $9 they just signed Bell to considerably lessens what they have left.
They’ve got lots of needs to fill and Reyes would eat up almost all of the balance left over. They might also need a backup plan for when Josh Johnson goes down for the third consecutive season.
Even though I’ve said the exact same thing here many times
You have said that. Wouldn’t it make sense then, to push the chips into the middle of the table given the overall depth of the organization? I guess that’s just not an easy thing to do for a mid-sized payroll team. Brewers did it, however they paid dearly.
“For me in college it was REM, Replacements, Husker Du, The Clash and The Smiths.”
Wow DOB, you’re younger than I thought you were. I would have thought it was Elvis and Buddy Holly.
December 2nd, 20119:33 am
They’ve got lots of needs to fill and Reyes would eat up almost all of the balance left over.
Lew, if they sign Reyes and are done, that’s a damn good team dude. Of course Josh Johnson’s health is important. But they certainly have a very nice roster if they nab Jose Reyes. Underrated, deep bullpen too.
December 2nd, 20119:36 am
I think Toronto may have the most loaded system in baseball after reading this article. Absurd collection of prospects: http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/01/jays-dangle-prospects-for-starters
Efrim – The Marlins also finished last season 30 games behind the Phillies and 17 behind the Braves. That’s an awful lot of behind to make up and become a contender. And after Johnson, their pitching staff is an iffy proposition (never really know what you’re going to get on any given day).
Add to that the fact that Hanley had an awful season and has made no bones about his displeasure over being moved from short if Reyes is signed (and I’m not so certain they can pull it off) and I’m not seeing a playoff caliber team in Miami.
December 2nd, 20119:40 am
And maybe Heyward is healthy, with a better swing and goes nuts for .290/.380/.500 – then we’d have our middle of the order stick. — Efrim
In other words, if he does slightly better than he did as a 20-year-old rookie two years ago. If someone in August 2010 had projected that .290/.380/.500 line for Heyward in 2012, hardly anyone would have questioned it. Would’ve seemed pretty reasonable to most of us at the time.
December 2nd, 20119:42 am
Wouldn’t it make sense then, to push the chips into the middle of the table given the overall depth of the organization?
Hey, if they happen to find some .850-.900 banger that they can stick in LF and hit 3 or 4, I’m not gonna sniff about it. Chipper at 2, and then five thumpers? Yes, I think that might get it done.
But even without another impact bat, the team still has 20-dingers-plus potential from five guys, plus Prado’s 10-12. Bookend those six guys with Bourn at the top and somebody with just an average OBP at 8, I think you still have plenty of opportunity to score runs in bunches.
Everybody has to get healthy and get right, true, but a pitcher trying to wade through Prado/Chipper/Uggla/McCann/Heyward/Freeman multiple times is apt to have some short outings.
December 2nd, 20119:43 am
I expect the Marlins to land Reyes and they have Bell now. They will probably add a pitcher of some type but I don’t know that they could get up to CJ asking price and Buerhle may be stretching it. They may sign one of the non tenders from a team or make a run at a trade for a young pitcher but I expect them to add at least one SP.
The Marlins also finished last season 30 games behind the Phillies and 17 behind the Braves. That’s an awful lot of behind to make up and become a contender.
Means nothing to me. I don’t think the Braves are 13 games worse than the Phillies heading into 2012, do you? Do you think that they need to make up that much to grab them and be a contender for the East? I don’t look at last years division games back to determine how far we are.
I’m not seeing a playoff caliber team in Miami.
If they sign Reyes, I can see it. But they also need a starting pitcher, so we’ll see.
December 2nd, 20119:46 am
Yeah, and Roberto Clemente was not a power hitter either.
Hey, if they happen to find some .850-.900 banger that they can stick in LF and hit 3 or 4, I’m not gonna sniff about it.
Toronto should totally get value for Joey Bats by trading him to the Braves. He’s a free agent in 2017 or something so they should totally sell him off now and get some value…….
December 2nd, 20119:48 am
Wow DOB, you’re younger than I thought you were. I would have thought it was Elvis and Buddy Holly. – N8
No, those guys’ peaks were two or three decades earlier. But I do love the music of both Elvis and Buddy Holly, and would happily listen to either on an endless reel to avoid hearing the likes of big-hair bands such as Whitesnake.
December 2nd, 20119:49 am
I’m not sure right now the Phillies are as good as they were last year. Right now they have no Oswalt, Ibanez will not be in Left, SS is still a question mark until they resign Rollins and Howard will miss at least the beginning of the season. They added Papelbon but have subtracted Madson and Lidge. Additions of Thome and Wigginton give them depth but I’m not sure, as of now, that they are as strong as last year.
December 2nd, 20119:50 am
Efrim – Yep, we’ll see.
Of course, if many here are to be believed, Jurrjens and Hanson will remain injured while Josh Johnson will come back strong. Prado and Heyward will not make comebacks, but Hanley will, etc.
Would’ve seemed pretty reasonable to most of us at the time.
Very reasonable and would make this team an elite offensive force, as scoots was sayin.
December 2nd, 20119:53 am
Hey – what’s wrong with testosterone driven teenage rock? Keeps we old fogeys young watching Tawny writhing on high priced machinery.
Toronto should totally get value for Joey Bats by trading him to the Braves.
I dunno, Efrim, might have to include Zeke in the trade. Deal-breaker.
December 2nd, 20119:55 am
Hanson is key for 2012. Even with the starting pitching depth we have, he may be more important to the team than Heyward for next season. We need that force at the top of the rotation. I think the low on Heyward is posting a .260/.350/.440 type line.
December 2nd, 20119:56 am
“No, those guys’ peaks were two or three decades earlier. But I do love the music of both Elvis and Buddy Holly, and would happily listen to either on an endless reel to avoid hearing the likes of big-hair bands such as Whitesnake.”
See… there you go. I make a friendly jab at your age, nothing more and you bring up Whitesnake. I thought you were the one that always accused me of bringing up Whitesnake? And jab away all you want, but I’d prefer to listen to Elvis and Buddy Holly any day of the week over Whitesnake. And actually probably everybody else on your “college” list as well. Sans REM. They just never did much for me. But that has more to do with Stipe’s voice. Just never cared for it. Great songwriter. Just wish somebody else was singing his songs.
December 2nd, 20119:57 am
might have to include Zeke in the trade. Deal-breaker
I’m laughing so hard if he gets traded this offseason….
Seriously though, on Spruill, do you think he misses enough bats to be a 5th starter type?
December 2nd, 201110:01 am
Good link here to some cuts from the CD that was produced in conjunction with the terrific Guy Clark tribute show I went to in Austin a few weeks ago.
December 2nd, 201110:04 am
Jury’s out, I think. Zeke’s a grinder (which may be why I like the guy so much), and grinders with a brain can sometimes rise above their physical gifts. I think he can play as a back-end starter, give you those 11-and-9 seasons, like that. Nothing special.
He’ll never look great to most casual observers, but there’s just something I really like about watching him pitch.
December 2nd, 201110:05 am
I’m not sure right now the Phillies are as good as they were last year.
Age. I still expect around 95 wins based on the top 3 starters and defense…..really good defensive team if they re-sign Rollins.
December 2nd, 201110:07 am
Keeps we old fogeys young watching Tawny writhing on high priced machinery.
Tawny is damn near as old as we are Lew. And she ain’t nearly as good looking in her mugshot as she is in the pub pictures.
December 2nd, 201110:08 am
I think the low on Heyward is posting a .260/.350/.440 type line.
Uh-oh. One of Heyward/Freeman has to step up to beast mode, or they both have to be semi-beasts. Less than that, and the offensive depth in the lineup isn’t quite so fearsome.
December 2nd, 201110:10 am
scoots, good to hear your opinion on it. I like Zeke too. He may not fit in Atlanta because of all the depth we have there, but I was a big fan of the 2008 draft and he was one of the reasons.
keylargo – Yeah, but who’s looking at her mug shots? I’m living in the past. You should, too, if those mug shots are what you’ve been checking outrecently.
December 2nd, 201110:11 am
I know, scoots. But it’s all I could give you on J-Hey right now. I’d love to say beast mode for an .880 OPS. I hope….
December 2nd, 201110:12 am
keylargo – And I dare say that neither you, I or anyone else our age is as good looking as we were back in the late 80’s.
Don’t know if my arthritic hps would allow for machinery writhing these days – and I don’t have the mileage Tawny does.
December 2nd, 201110:17 am
.280/.370/.460 is still my prediction for Heyward though, scoots. The number before was my low.
The Marlins want to sign one starting pitcher, either Wilson or Buehrle, and trade for another. As one club official said Thursday, referring to the site of next week’s winter meetings, “It would be very surprising to me if we are not active in Dallas.”
This on top of adding Reyes and Bell. Don’t know where the money is coming from.
Lew – She was married to a MLB pitcher, but kept beating him up until he divorced her. He pitched for the Indians – maybe Chuck Finley?
efrim Heath Bell for three years, 27 million. Depends on that vesting option. 4 years, 36 million is too rich for my blood. Thank you Frank for not ever investing long term dollars into a closer.
i think $9mil per for a top closer is good, as long as he isnt 34. i sure hope wren signs kimbrel to a contract like that when the time comes.
December 2nd, 201110:19 am
DOB, on another topic has American Horror Story just now simply shifted into “wierd-ville” where it’s simply so over the top you have to continue watching? I still like it and like a train wreck, I refuse to stop watching. But I’m finding it difficult to believe that it’s a series that could go on for 3-4 years without getting really old.
I hope they find a way to keep it interesting and edgy. But I’m not as convinced as I was 3-4 episodes in.
December 2nd, 201110:21 am
December 2nd, 2011
That’s pretty much why I’ve been saying it wouldn’t be a bad thing to sign CJ to couple with Hudson at the top of our rotation… 2 very proven starters that have show durability.
December 2nd, 201110:23 am
keylargo, it was Finley. I believe she either kicked im or attempted to stab him with a stiletto heel. Gotta hand it to him I guess. Most professional athletes would have flipped it the other way and beat the hell out of her.
Clearly he likely had the physical advantage over her. So I’m not sure to mock him for being a “wuss” and getting beat up by his wife. Or commend him for not beating up somebody he likely could have easily “handled”.
But hey… she was hot in Bachelor Party, right?
show should be read as shown, otherwise it makes no sense.
December 2nd, 201110:28 am
N8: Agreed on American Horror Story. I eagerly await every episode, but I have a difficult time imagining how they could sustain it without changing things up by going to a different house with a different family, etc. If they do that, I could see it happening.
efrim , i like onley’s insight you posted at 9:17. seems like a solid plan to me…but does that formula make guys like jose reyes basically complimentary players? or just luxuries? because i feel like folks act like he is a peice to build around.
its interesting though, because it does seem like everything else besides two excellent SP, and good closer and two mashers are relatively easy to get. if you can get those things first other stuff falls into place.
next year. josh hamilton and matt cain.
December 2nd, 201110:29 am
keyLargo: Yes, Chuck Finley was the pitcher she was married to and fought (and famously beat up, at least once).
December 2nd, 201110:33 am
i sure hope wren signs kimbrel to a contract like that when the time comes.
Yeah, I may change my mind if Kimmie keeps putting up those 2011 numbers….
December 2nd, 201110:34 am
key largo – Yep, it was FInlay. She was definitely a Wild Child and it seems to have done her in.
December 2nd, 201110:35 am
If you ever get the chance, check out a movie called “Gwendolyn in The Land of The Yic Yak”.
Totally mindless flick with nothing whatsoever to recommend it other than a much younger Tawny wandering around for an hour and a half topless.
December 2nd, 201110:39 am
Why do I get the feeling that some very knowledgeable people in the Braves organization are laying the ground work for Andrelton Simmons in 2013……….
December 2nd, 201110:40 am
Hey, I’m on board.
Olney kept saying next years class stinks. I disagree. Deep in starting pitching and outfielders. However, a lot could change if Hamels, Cain, Hamilton and Victorino are locked up. I think Hamels hits the open market though, and is in pinstripes right behind Sabathia in 2013.
efrim i sure hope wren signs kimbrel to a contract like that when the time comes.
not to mention, kimbrel will be like 27 when he becomes a free agent, not 34. $9mil per would be a steal.
by the way, i for one commend wren for emphasizing the bullpen in his tenure. it has made a big difference.
December 2nd, 201110:42 am
I need to see him hit Double-A pitching. He’ll make me a believer if he can continue with the stick and perhaps shorten his swing a bit. Bethancourt is in the same boat. Both need to progress with the lumber if they are going to be considered building blocks of any sort.
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