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Tomahawkin
December 1st, 2011
7:41 pm
S/O’s To…
Lee In S. GA!
And Bat Masterson…!
nolie
December 1st, 2011
7:42 pm
Klesko and Ice made a good platoon for a coupla years in the OF
Bat Masterson
December 1st, 2011
7:42 pm
Right back at ya, Tomahwakin.
Steve from OH
December 1st, 2011
7:42 pm
you might be right about JJ, but I’m not sure that’s how the club sees it. I do know that most GMs are likely to view him with skepticism as Cashman said last week
Probably not–they’re the pros, and I’m just some idiot on a blog. But that’s my story, and I’m sticking to it. I’d love to have him prove me wrong (as long as he stays with us).
keyLargo
December 1st, 2011
7:45 pm
Steve from OH – I heard that Jurjens knee injury was to his right knee and thus was impeding him from pushing of the mound. I’m thinking that could be the 2 or 3 mph he seems to have lost. There seems to be no exact diagnosis for the type of injury he has but I was wondering if you had any info on it?
Steve from OH
December 1st, 2011
7:47 pm
The knee injury? No. Haven’t been following the Braves or baseball much at all in the past year or so. It sounds plausible, though. Either way, his injury history, drop in velo, and lack of a good third pitch concern me a lot. Like I said, if we can get a good package for him, we should really consider doing it. I think we have the pitching depth to overcome losing him.
Steve from OH
December 1st, 2011
7:50 pm
But to be quite honest, my knowledge in the area of orthopedics is lacking.
TnBrian
December 1st, 2011
7:50 pm
Tomahawkin, just trying to keep up with the rent is all.
No platoons!
We made the September 2007 Mets look like the 1927 Yankees
December 1st, 2011
7:50 pm
cabravesfan………Joe Montana had recovered from the elbow injury. Was the MVP in 1990….came back from the injury and played the last game of the 1992 regular season and put up some good numbers.
Many 49ers fans were pissed when Seifert (Walsh was the GM then) didnt replace a struggling Steve Young in the 1992 NFC Championship game against Cowboys. Montana was it itching to go in. Yet Young played the whole game.
Montana ended up having two pretty good seasons with the Chiefs, leading them to AFC Championship game in 1993.
Chipper Jones won the batting title a couple of years ago….got hurt in 2010…..he’s old just like Montana was. How do you think many Braves fans would have reacted if Wren traded Chipper like Walsh did Montana?
I never said that Montana, Rice, Lott and Craig were let go in their prime. I’m saying that all 4 were fan favorites…and had several decent years left in the them. Walsh planned their departure by making sure that he had replacements BEFORE they become washed up.
What have the Braves done to find a replacement for Chipper? NOTHING! The Braves are keeping Chipper around because many so-called Braves fans are more of a fan of Chipper…than they are of the Braves team. Chipper Jones is a shell of his former self. Below average defense….average, at best, hitting in the #3 slot of the order. Yet Braves management keeps hoping that the Chipper old will reappear.
old man
December 1st, 2011
7:52 pm
Dang it, why isn’t McCutchen on our roster yet?
Why haven’t you lazy bums updated me on this? Get to work!
Tomahawkin
December 1st, 2011
7:55 pm
Who Did We Have in our 1999 LF Platoon?
I think It was Gerald Williams and Otis Nixon?
And We had a Platoon at 1stbase with Kid Klesko and Brian Hunter
That 1999 Braves Team Overachieved…That was the Squad that lost A. Galarraga to Cancer that season and And Stll Clowned to win over 100 games!!! That Team Had Heart With B. Jordan as The Team Leader!
Does anyone remember that season?
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
7:56 pm
So what do you suggest they do? The only option would be to release Chipper. And that’s not going to happen.
Tomahawkin
December 1st, 2011
7:58 pm
Oh And BTW…
I Seriously Suprised That Pendleton hasn’t been Mentioned in Any of the Managerial Openings This Offseason…?
George
December 1st, 2011
7:58 pm
McCutchen is the only player that I would trade MARTIN for.
Tomahawkin
December 1st, 2011
7:59 pm
@George!
Co-Sign!
Martini and Double J for McCutchen!
Do It NOW Frank Wren!
George
December 1st, 2011
8:01 pm
Tomahawkin
December 1st, 2011
7:55 pm
Who Did We Have in our 1999 LF Platoon?
I think It was Gerald Williams and Otis Nixon?
And We had a Platoon at 1stbase with Kid Klesko and Brian Hunter
That 1999 Braves Team Overachieved…That was the Squad that lost A. Galarraga to Cancer that season and And Stll Clowned to win over 100 games!!! That Team Had Heart With B. Jordan as The Team Leader!
Does anyone remember that season?
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Yup remenber 1999, CHIPPER was MVP.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
8:02 pm
Was the MVP in 1990…
Which has what to do with the elbow that he blew out in the 1990 NFC title game? He missed all of 1991 and all but one game of 1992. By that time, Steve Young was playing well- he was the NFL MVP in 1992.
jim
December 1st, 2011
8:04 pm
The ‘99 team also lost Javier Lopez to injury, also Odalis Perez. Smoltz won 17 games with an elbow injury by pitching sidearm and learning a knuckleball.
George
December 1st, 2011
8:05 pm
Night y’all, have a good one or two.
Tomahawkin
December 1st, 2011
8:11 pm
@Jim
That 1999 Team Had Javy Lopez, Greg Myers and Eddie Perez as our catching tandem
As well as Jose Hernandez was traded for but Didn’t hit for Crap when he arrived…
That Team still won over 100 games! They had Heart!
And If I’m not Mistaking? Glavine Had an “Off Year” by his standards?
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8:14 pm
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cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
8:15 pm
ummm…..
Lee in S GA
December 1st, 2011
8:18 pm
Tomahawkin
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good to have you back on here
hell i deserved to get banned many times before you did
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cabravesfan …49ers suck
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JoeBrave
where you at….like your style
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
8:20 pm
49ers suck
Posts like this crack me up. A) is that really the best you can do? B) it’s so obviously not true that it just makes you look petty…
jim
December 1st, 2011
8:20 pm
Lopez got hurt early in the season and missed the rest of the year.
G. Williams was one of our LFers, but Otis Nixon was long gone by then. Millwood had a huge year (except for the last start against the Mets in game 6 — Braves won in Extra innings when Rogers walked Andruw with the bases loaded — and his start against the Yanks in WS. I believe Milwood finished 3rd in the Cy Young voting in ‘99
Tomahawkin
December 1st, 2011
8:27 pm
Time For The Game, Rasslin and Beavis and Butthead…
Check You Cats in The AM…
Lee in S GA
December 1st, 2011
8:28 pm
Posts like this crack me up. A) is that really the best you can do? B) it’s so obviously not true that it just makes you look petty…
———-sad …but it is the best i can do…they will make in it in the 1st round and lose…heck what a turn-a-round season for them anyway…..hope the Falcons play them in the playoffs and that may happen
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
8:31 pm
Chances are they will have a first round bye. One of the best teams in the league this season and people still unwilling to give them credit. Oh well. They just keep winning and that’s all that matters
Lee in S GA
December 1st, 2011
8:32 pm
USC rocks too
SoWeGa Fanatic
December 1st, 2011
8:34 pm
Tomahawkin
December 1st, 2011
8:11 pm
@Jim
That 1999 Team Had Javy Lopez, Greg Myers and Eddie Perez as our catching tandem
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A 3 man tandem?
jeffrey d
December 1st, 2011
8:40 pm
A 3 man tandem?
Remember? Bobby ditched the left and right fielders and instead had 2 extra catchers, one to the left and right of the plate. Not one of his brightest moves.
Tomahawkin
December 1st, 2011
8:41 pm
SoWeGa Fanatic…
“That 1999 Team Had Javy Lopez, Greg Myers and Eddie Perez as our catching tandem”
Javy Lopez Tore Up his Knee in July of 1999 in a Series loss At Arizona…Therefore That Injury Necessitated the Trade for Greg Myers at the Trade Deadline…So From Aug 1st on, It was a Greg Myers And E. Perez serving as the Catching tandem on that 1999 100-Win Braves Team…
Tomahawkin
December 1st, 2011
8:46 pm
Ok…Time To Go Hang on The Eagles Forum…
That Forum is Hilarious!!!!
jeffrey d
December 1st, 2011
9:01 pm
Did everybody go to the Eagles forum?
Moe Berg
December 1st, 2011
9:12 pm
Did everybody go to the Eagles forum?
Since they are just down the road, I thought it best to learn the thinking of my neighbors. I must confess–rather disturbing.
old man
December 1st, 2011
9:16 pm
Not at all sure Prado is an upgrade at 2B for the Pirates, and he would be more expensive than Walker. But Prado looks like a good fit at 3B for them. JJ’s salary, compared to one of our young arms, is not what they would prefer.
Is Prado desirable to Pittsburgh for 3B or do they have other plans for that position? Would they want JJ if we paid some of his salary for a couple of years? That would be a small sum compared to what a free agent in left field could cost us over the four years of control we would have for McCutch.
So what about Prado, JJ (with compensation) and Hoover for McCutch?
I would keep JJ and give one of our top young arms if we had to.
How unrealistic is this?
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
9:17 pm
Why didn’t any of you remind me that VINCE FREAKING YOUNG was starting for the Eagles tonight BEFORE I MADE MY PICK??? Damn you all!!
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
9:19 pm
old man-
I still don’t buy that the Pirates are really shopping McCutchen, so I’d go with totally unrealistic. But that’s just my opinion
Moe Berg
December 1st, 2011
9:20 pm
Just read DOB’s link to the poorly edited article on the UGA/LSU game. Made me think of a story about a young Shelby Foote. When he was starting out, he was a copy editor at a Mississippi newspaper. He was known for letting humorous typos slip through. One day there was a very ominous weather forecast–the weather person had said that they anticipated ’shifty winds’ but the newspaper published something far more sinister.
Moe Berg
December 1st, 2011
9:23 pm
Valentine reached out to David Cone about becoming the new Red Sox pitching coach, reports Jack Curry of the YES Network (Twitter link). Cone isn’t expected to take the job but was “flattered.”
old man
December 1st, 2011
9:24 pm
Assuming Pittsburgh was thinking about it, would Prado, a top level pitcher (JJ +cash or Tehran or Vizcaino), and Hoover be a fair price? That was really my question. Unless they have a minor leaguer or have acquired someone I don’t know about, 3B is a position where Prado could really thrive.
McFann O O o
December 1st, 2011
9:24 pm
trading McCann now is in the Braves best interest.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
9:27 pm
old man-
Honestly, I don’t think that would be enough. McCutchen is one of the elite young stars in the league and is under team control until 2016. I think it would take something like Teheran AND Vizcaino AND another top position prospect, along with Prado. They would ask for a ransom and probably get it.
keyLargo
December 1st, 2011
9:40 pm
trading McCann now is in the Braves best interest.
I can’t believe you typed that McFann. Are you really saying you might accept changing your blog name to McSoxx?
nolie
December 1st, 2011
9:42 pm
the Pirates would not want Prado, they would want CHEAP and good. 2 of our big three and one or two more like Hoover or Pastor
McFann O O o
December 1st, 2011
9:45 pm
I didn’t type that…some other nutcase did.
keyLargo
December 1st, 2011
9:46 pm
Moe, you had me going for a minute. For some reason when I read your post I thought it was about David Wright, not David Cone. It made absolutely no sense. But as usual, it was me. LOL
jim
December 1st, 2011
9:49 pm
The Pirates have Pedro Alvarez, the # 1 pick in the 2009 draft to play 3B. They would be unlikely to trade McCutcheon for players like JJ and Prado who have fewer years of team control. They have also drafted two of the top pitching prospects in the last 2 drafts. A McCutcheon for Teheran trade + throwins makes some sense, but the Pirates need the bat and speed more than another arm.
nolie
December 1st, 2011
9:53 pm
none of it makes much sense at this time, more likely two years away from trading him
tiger297
December 1st, 2011
9:58 pm
whatup look like we got a full krewe tonight…bang fat man staggering in da room – boom sha lock lock boom
Tom O'Hawke
December 1st, 2011
10:00 pm
Trade Teheran, a Braves’ untouchable, for McCutcheon, a Pirates’ untouchable?? What the hell is going on here?
I enjoy a few beers, too, people. But once you start sipping on the 2ND case, it’s time to back away from the keyboard.
tiger297
December 1st, 2011
10:01 pm
tom – maybe they are in oklahoma drinking 3 point beer…
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
10:02 pm
Hi Tom
AFAN
December 1st, 2011
10:04 pm
It is amazing that the Braves are so quiet and yet they have many holes to fill. No short stop and still an outfielder shy. Plus we still need another outfielder when prado is backing up chipper. assuming prado isnt traded then we need another outfielder and a back up for chipper. amazing…and yet we have no rumors of anything…
Tom O'Hawke
December 1st, 2011
10:04 pm
Hi, LAdy.
Sorry to read the sad news about your team.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
10:05 pm
Tom-
Which news about which team is that?
old man
December 1st, 2011
10:05 pm
The hard part about FW’s job is really understanding how the other 29 teams perceive their own rosters. Knowing where they think their own holes are. And not letting them know what you really think of your own team.
nolie
December 1st, 2011
10:05 pm
It is amazing that the Braves are so quiet and yet they have many holes to fill. No short stop and still an outfielder shy. Plus we still need another outfielder when prado is backing up chipper.,,AFan
I doubt they are gonna get all that.
Tom O'Hawke
December 1st, 2011
10:05 pm
You’re right, AFAN, and with hardly any time left to do anything.
Tom O'Hawke
December 1st, 2011
10:07 pm
Which news about which team is that?
I read online, tonight, that your 49ers sucked, cab!!
Moe Berg
December 1st, 2011
10:08 pm
tiger297–I lived in Oklahoma but never heard of 3 point beer. (Perhaps because I tend to go either with scotch or wine.) How are you?
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
10:08 pm
Tom-
Ah, yes. That news. That doesn’t bode well for the rest of the NFL…except that team that plays in the arctic boonies
nolie
December 1st, 2011
10:09 pm
never heard of 3.2 beer?
Tom O'Hawke
December 1st, 2011
10:10 pm
That’s right, LAdy, and they don’t want to play against your guys this year.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
10:10 pm
Tom-
Moe Berg
December 1st, 2011
10:11 pm
I must plead my ignorance. Is that the watered down crap that they sell in the grocery stores in Oklahoma? Why does that exist? My as well drink O’Doul’s.
keyLargo
December 1st, 2011
10:12 pm
I saw you were getting an annual Tiger. WHat’s that cost if they don’t find anything wrong $2500?
tiger297
December 1st, 2011
10:14 pm
yeah moe I went from south louisiana to oklahoma in college and was impressed by the folks ability to drink beer…then I started drinking it and switched to hard liquour to get a buzz
nolie
December 1st, 2011
10:14 pm
3.2 used to be a big thing in states where you had to be 21 to drink full strength booze. When I was an undergrad in Ohio, you could buy 3.2 in pitchers in the bars if you were 18. many states have changed their drinking laws since those days, not sure how much of it is around nowdays or where
tiger297
December 1st, 2011
10:15 pm
KL – its about $900 on mine…remember fixed gear and pitch so not nearly as much for them to check
Tom O'Hawke
December 1st, 2011
10:16 pm
cabravesfan
This may sound weird to you, but I sometimes wonder if home-field is good for them all the way through. They haven’t lost a road-game in a long time. Maybe, playing on the “frozen tundra” will hurt their offense.
I’m still, obviously, rooting for them to remain undefeated, but I still wonder if that’s a good thing.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
10:17 pm
Tom-
I’m all for them losing 2 games, because I think, if they end with the same record, the Niners would have the tie breaker…
tiger297
December 1st, 2011
10:18 pm
nolie – I thought nobody could drink during your undergrad days…I must be off by a couple years
Moe Berg
December 1st, 2011
10:18 pm
tiger/nolie–Yeah, I heard about it, when I moved there. Just seemed too surreal. I am tired of such different laws around alcohol everywhere I go. Chicago was the easiest–buy whenever you want/wherever you want. Apparently in NJ, grocery stores do not sell alcohol. Means an extra store to hit, when marketing. In Chicago, all liquor, wine or beer was available at the grocery store. Quite easy.
keyLargo
December 1st, 2011
10:19 pm
Well, good luck with them not finding anything wrong. It’s not like you have a choice if you want to fly.
Tom O'Hawke
December 1st, 2011
10:20 pm
Refresh me, LAdy. The niners just lost to the Ravens, but who beat them the 2nd week of the season? I forgot.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
10:21 pm
It’s so odd to me to think there are places where you can’t buy alcohol on Sundays. We can get hard alcohol at the Rite Aid down the street…3 isles over from the pharmacy…any day of the week. (not that we generally buy from there. But we could)
nolie
December 1st, 2011
10:21 pm
I don’t pay attention any more but once Fla and Ga had different Sunday drinking laws and folks in South Ga would run across to North Fla
tiger297
December 1st, 2011
10:22 pm
moe – yeah I’m with you on the alcohol laws its just crazy…when I was younger it was an issue (cause I never knew how much beer I could afford for sunday at the river until I was done with my weekend roaming on saturday night and in LA couldn’t buy alcohol until noon on sunday) Now I have enough in the cabinet that it doesn’t bother me at all
keyLargo
December 1st, 2011
10:22 pm
I had an AWD (Air Worthiness Directive) on my Piper once that made them take the wings off to inspect the spar that supported them. supported them. Not a cheap annual.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
10:22 pm
Tom-
Dallas. So they are 7-1 in conference, which I believe would be the first tie breaker since they are in different divisions…but it might be common opponents, but there have to be 4 and I am not sure they have that many…)
N8
December 1st, 2011
10:23 pm
“I don’t pay attention any more but once Fla and Ga had different Sunday drinking laws and folks in South Ga would run across to North Fla.”
What’s next? Getting arrested for loud music and having to cross the state line to go dancing?
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
10:24 pm
Meanwhile, the Eagles are AWFUL. I am really regretting putting so many points on them tonight…
nolie
December 1st, 2011
10:24 pm
the Ga Sheriffs would sit on the Ga side of the main road and use any excuse to stop cars coming back across the line. good times………
Tom O'Hawke
December 1st, 2011
10:25 pm
I think you’re right, cabravesfan. The Packers still have 2 games left out of their conference (Raiders & Chiefs — N8’s team).
David O'Brien
December 1st, 2011
10:25 pm
TnBrian, Tomhawkin: You fellas are too kind. Thank ya. I appreciate it.
Moe Berg
December 1st, 2011
10:25 pm
nolie–I remember when I lived in Boston, one could buy on Sundays from Thanksgiving until New Year, but not on other Sundays. Very odd.
cab–I agree. It makes no sense at all. I can get until 6:30 on Sundays here. Just wish it could be integrated with grocery-shopping.
tiger297
December 1st, 2011
10:26 pm
kl – yeah I normally save double the annual to cover what they might find and if they don’t I pick something else to upgrade…2 years ago I got a GPS last year I got a handheld radio…this year I will get a new headliner
My past mechanic was very unreliable so I’m switching to someone new this year so I doubt I get the headliner.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
10:26 pm
Tom-
Niners have one against Pittsburgh on Monday Night Football on the 19th. Everything else is in division
tiger297
December 1st, 2011
10:28 pm
nolie – in most states purchase was illegal but possesion was not (or something like that) so we would buy it in louisiana and bring it to panama city beach for spring break…plus it was much cheaper at albertson’s
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2011
10:28 pm
Moe-
We buy most of our beer and wine at the grocery store. VJ gets other stuff at Total Wine (they have an amazing selection of hard alcohol). I once had someone at Target tell me I couldn’t pay for my wine at the pharmacy counter, so I paid for everything else there, went 4 feet to the regular counter, and bought my wine. Seemed so pointless, but I guess you have to at least pretend you are not selling prescription drugs and alcohol to the same person
Tom O'Hawke
December 1st, 2011
10:29 pm
Was DOB being sarcastic, or did TnBrian & T-Hawkin say something nice?
N8
December 1st, 2011
10:29 pm
“the Ga Sheriffs would sit on the Ga side of the main road and use any excuse to stop cars coming back across the line. good times………”
But then when they couldn’t bust anybody, Boss Hogg would get pretty pissed off at Rosco, right?
Moe Berg
December 1st, 2011
10:30 pm
tiger–Yes, now I tend to be a bit better stocked than when younger. In Chicago, I perennially had house guests and was always running out of booze–was very appreciative of lax laws so I could restock.
Ooof. My mundoo is being chewed to go eat. Back in a bit.
tiger297
December 1st, 2011
10:31 pm
kl – yeah I watch out for AD’s to try and keep from being surprised. They say once you have had the plane for a few years as long as you keep flying it regularly you will identify most of the squawks b4 the mechanic does. But the first annual with a new mechanic can be an interesting dance.
N8
December 1st, 2011
10:32 pm
T. O’Hawke, that Packers/Chiefs game could get ugly. Then again, if the Chiefs would have had anybody that qualified to be a high school QB on the field last Sunday, they would have won against the Steelers. Chiefs defense plays pretty solid at home. But I’m afraid Mr. Rodgers and his friends are gonna wipe the turf at Arrowhead with some Chiefs players.
Tom O'Hawke
December 1st, 2011
10:33 pm
Ooof. My mundoo is being chewed to go eat
Even when Moe types small words, I hardly understand him.
tiger297
December 1st, 2011
10:34 pm
if you visit often enough that I need restocking and you aren’t bringing a bottle with you soon you will find your favorite out of stock every time you visit…
funny how that happens
nolie
December 1st, 2011
10:34 pm
caint be the real N8, can it? I don’t remember him ever making 2 one-sentence comments in a row.
Who are you and what did you do with N8’s body?
David O'Brien
December 1st, 2011
10:35 pm
Speaking of music, I’ve lined up a blog interview with an accomplished rockin’ guitarist/songwriter with whom many of you are quite familiar, a guy who’s also a hardcore Braves fan from Alabama — none other than Jason Isbell. Said he’d love to do an interview for the ol’ blog. He’s touring but we’ll probably do it Saturday while he’s traveling between shows in St. Louis and Kansas City.