Braves decline to offer Gonzalez arbitration

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jb

November 26th, 2011
8:42 am

Just say no to Gonzalez and Wilson. Sign Ronny Cedeno for one year. The kid can pick’m with great range. The bridge to no where!

Bernie

November 26th, 2011
9:01 am

Well I’ve noticed besides getting rid of Derek Lowe nothing’s happened. Well Braves fans get ready for the same old season next year because Mr. Wrenn is going to sit pat with the same players he had last year with no one that can hit besides Bourn. Jurjiens and Hanson will still be on the team with no real input because they will probably get hurt again. And Heyward will still be standing around with his same old lowing 200 batting average. Mr. Wrenn please give us something to hope for next season.

bamabrave

November 26th, 2011
9:20 am

Why is everyone so in love with Pastornicky? Another bust

MR

November 26th, 2011
7:04 pm

What’s next Frank? Another rebuilding year disguised as a legit run at the WS? I jest of course, I know you’ll never have a legit chance at winning anything, but I am interested in what two glaring weak spots on the team you’ll be ignoring this upcoming season only to partly address them too late in the season.

Frank Wren

November 26th, 2011
8:09 pm

Everything is well in hand. You may not see the Braves signing any great players that could help us win, but behind the scenes, rest assured that I have a secret plan to win the World Series.

Trust me.

phil

November 26th, 2011
8:52 pm

I forget…

How did we end up in the playoffs this year? You know, the ones we were sure to make back in late August?

Who cares about Gonzo….pitiful hitter.

Erk

November 26th, 2011
9:56 pm

Why would Tony Gonzales want to play for the Braves…

why

November 26th, 2011
10:27 pm

Why would anyone wish to play for Braves?

Gray

November 27th, 2011
12:16 am

When Wren traded Escobar, Yunel had an attitude problem, which everybody knew was detrimental to the team. He’d gotten lazy and sluggish,in his defense.
So, Wren brings in a shortstop, who changed that and, now, that Alex has become an expensive comodity, everybody thinks Wren should quit.
I, for one, see this a business!

G. Tampa Bedwetter

November 27th, 2011
12:22 am

HIRE BOBBY COX ! ! !

HuH?

November 27th, 2011
1:24 am

Just read Billy Martin complaining (again) and suggesting the Braves will be better off without Chipper Jones(again).
Jones is the best position player in Braves history, and still one of the best three or four 3rd basemen playing today…at 40 years old, mol.

phil

November 27th, 2011
10:14 am

Why should the Braves be offering Tony Gonzalez anything, he plays for the Falcons. Bunch of dummies, they will never make the playoffs.

phil

November 27th, 2011
10:18 am

Liberty should move the Braves to Tijuana, because I’ll never go to another game, so there is no need for them to be here.

bravesfaninNashville

November 27th, 2011
2:45 pm

I understand wanting to have a surplus of pitching because of injuries but if you don’t have enough good position players it doesn’t matter how much good pitching you have sitting in the minors while your major league SS, LF and RF are performing way under league averages. We could get at least ONE stud OF prospect for ONE of these great pitching prospects. If we did that we could survive with a plus defender at SS that has at least a speed component to his game. We need an outfielder that has as much promise as Fredi Freeman at 1B. I know we aren’t giving up on Heyward and he may prove to have a breakout year this year but in order to take some pressure of him we need a stick in LF that can ad the respect that Dan Uggla does to the middle of the order.

Laughing Jack (OUT LOUD)

November 27th, 2011
4:59 pm

I am glad Braves management doesn’t sit around like fans talking about the past failures, or how things didn’t work out, or we should never have traded, nor ought to have paid. The Braves management seem to go about their business with an eye on the future. What do we need to continue fielding a competitive team? Also, I’m not so sure you can lay blame for team failure at the feet of Liberty Mutual’s purse strings. The man at Liberty Mutual is not pulling the strings on the Braves as a George Stinebrenner or any other millionaire owner. Fan comments here continue to amuse me.

K-man

November 27th, 2011
5:43 pm

I just looked at the Baseball America August 10, 2011 article on National League players with the best Tools. Their rankings had:

1) Jair Jurrjens ranked as the 2nd best Pitcher in the NL behind Roy Halladay and in front of 3rd place Clayton Kershaw, who recently won the Cy Young award for 2011..

2) Brian McCann ranked as the 3rd best NL Defensive Catcher (he was 2nd best in 2010),

3) Michael Bourn ranked number 1 as the NL Best Defensive Outfielder, NL Best Bunter, NL Best Baserunner, and NL Fastest Baserunner

4) Martin Prado ranked as the Number 2 Best NL Hit-and-Run Artist (he was ranked the 2nd Best NL Defensive 2B in 2010)

Makes sense to me that the Braves would ask for a lot in any potential deal involving Jurrjens or Prado. Better yet, I’d rather keep both of them. But, I can understand if Frank Wren thought the best way to improve the Braves was to deal from the surplus we have in Starting Pitching by dealing Jurrjens, as long as he gets good value in return.

So, for you amateur [read that terrible] evaluators of Jurrjens, McCann, and Prado skills… Shut up — your ignorance is truly showing.

wjones

November 27th, 2011
6:22 pm

“phil

November 27th, 2011
10:18 am
Liberty should move the Braves to Tijuana, because I’ll never go to another game, so there is no need for them to be here.”

Well, I guess that settles that.

bravesfaninNashville

November 27th, 2011
6:44 pm

K-man….. Well said… totally agree about the evaluations of our players by bloggers. Overall Frank Wren has done a better than expected job considering his salary limitations. He has put together a team that could win now but is set up to be very good for a long time. I think he is 1 right handed power hitter away from having a team that could win the WS.

Pull the trigger FW

November 27th, 2011
6:56 pm

any way Rockies would take Prado, JJ, & maybe a young pitcher for Tulo @ SS? they are looking for pitching & a 2nd baseman, what is Tulo making per year?

BravesfaninWis

November 27th, 2011
7:06 pm

Another week passed, and absolutely no news about the Atlanta Braves. About typical of this franchise.

BravesfaninWis

November 27th, 2011
7:08 pm

I don’t see the Braves as contenders next season regardless of their record this past season. They are cheap, and every other team in the division is going to be stronger with the exception of the Mets. When you have 3 teams ahead of you in your division alone, you are done. The reason for that is because the Braves are cheap, and they sit on their hands.

Felix

November 27th, 2011
7:56 pm

Worse collapse in Braves history and what has Braves management done after all this time? Fired a hitting coach and got us a guy named Hoover.

Just great!
What a lame bunch.

phil

November 27th, 2011
8:46 pm

wjones
November 27th, 2011
6:22 pm

“phil

November 27th, 2011
10:18 am
Liberty should move the Braves to Tijuana, because I’ll never go to another game, so there is no need for them to be here.”

Well, I guess that settles that.

<<<<<<<

Not me saying that drivel…

phil

November 27th, 2011
8:47 pm

Golf-one

November 27th, 2011
9:03 pm

Elvis Andrus was traded two years ago

barves

November 27th, 2011
11:59 pm

why not start chipper at SS? Wasn’t he drafted as one? then just stick Ross at third to keep his stick in the line-up.

We need to do a trade with the japanese team that signed Willy Mo Pena and get him to be a PH and back up catch (he could probably do it, the added production will make up for defense)

Then we can get Jose Reyes to come manage the team and we’ll win a super bowl

wjones

November 28th, 2011
12:42 am

barves, I don’t think Jose Reyes wants to manage yet. But I’m sure that Manny Ramirez is available.

bravesfaninNashville

November 28th, 2011
1:05 am

barves……… I like where you’re going with this……

reckingball

November 28th, 2011
2:43 am

The Braves will probably win the 2012 WS.

veaserva

November 28th, 2011
9:03 am

I am glad the Braves are letting Gonzalez go . Now let’s hope they replace him with a much better player . But knowing the Braves they will bring in someone who are worst than Gonzalez

Not Automatic

November 28th, 2011
10:28 am

Who was Sandusky’s favorite mascot ? Chief-Knockup-A-Homer…

DawgDad

November 28th, 2011
10:55 am

I realize I’m late to the party . . . has plan-B at shortstop emerged yet?

Say what you want about A-Gon’s gone-away offense, he could play shortstop. Thinking positively here, expecting Wren to land an average defensive shortstop as a replacement, the Braves infield defense in 2012 still figures to be among the worst in the league.

Braves20

November 28th, 2011
11:57 am

That’s exactly what we had in Gonzalez – an average defensive shortstop – ranked 14th out of 22 qualifying MLB shortstops last year. Somewhere there is a middle of the pack defensive shortstop you can actually hit.

Jimbo

November 28th, 2011
12:17 pm

As the world turns, Im not getting young but restless.. I look like walking dead waiting for Braves to be smarter than a 5th grader ..and make the DEAl…are stupid like judges on X- Factor to pick a 12 year old smart @@@ to win. Football I like but its not Baseball..I miss.

Dent

November 28th, 2011
2:25 pm

DOB,

Is J Broxton an option for the Braves? With Moylan out or done would he fit as a right handed 6-7th inning guy with an incentive laced contract?

Stanley

November 28th, 2011
3:55 pm

I miss my Mommy.

Bill

November 28th, 2011
4:22 pm

Broxton would be ok..for 1 year.

Yunel Escobar

November 28th, 2011
4:48 pm

The Braves are messing with Jason Heyward’s head, like they did to me and Frenchie.

They make us do unnatural things with the bat.

I see Jason flourishing one day, in a uniform that doesn’t say Atlanta on it.

Alex BYE BYE Baby

November 28th, 2011
5:17 pm

New blog please DOB ? Any prospective trades or free agent signings ?

David O'Brien

November 28th, 2011
5:55 pm

Is J Broxton an option for the Braves? With Moylan out or done would he fit as a right handed 6-7th inning guy with an incentive laced contract? — Dent

No, because Broxton is going to go somewhere where he can try to re-establish his value in a one-year contract, to get a big deal a year from now. You don’t do that pitching the sixth or seventh innings. He’ll go to a team where he can be a closer or at least part-time closer, I’m sure.

OLDNAT'L

November 29th, 2011
1:04 am

Should have kept YUNEL!!!!!!!!

Mitchell

November 29th, 2011
2:05 am

Maybe if Frank Wren had fired Bobby Cox after failing to make the playoffs in 2009 for the fourth consecutive season and finishing no better than third in any of the previous years following the streak of division titles we’d still have Yunel at short and not be stuck in this constant downward spiral.

Who knows, if only they had gotten rid of him after a fourth World Series loss in nine years we might not be stuck on one pathetic, freaking playoff series victory since the turn of the century.

nate

November 29th, 2011
3:15 am

deion was the last true leadoff man we had that could steal sum bases..why didn we try for reyes????

nate

November 29th, 2011
3:22 am

i have been a braves fan since gerald perry and ozzie virgil..im 32, i hate to say this but freddi g is just another bobby cox..its like they care more abt playing golf and gettin the season over than winning in the post season. we have one of the better teams every yr and once the post season comes we just give up. its a let down every yr to be a braves fan. we have the better pitchers, hitters, fielders but we dnt do anything at the end of the yr. it would be nice to have a coach that we kno can get us to where we need to be.

KC

November 29th, 2011
9:16 am

Who are our Rule 5 Draft eligable players that we could loose? Does anyone know. I know the Rule 5 Draft is up comming and I have not seen a list for the Braves for who we might loose to the Rule 5 Draft.

Murph

November 29th, 2011
10:24 am

DOB, the main blog is broken! It’s not allowing comments

David O'Brien

November 29th, 2011
10:37 am

Just changed a setting, main blog should be re-opened for comments now. New blog coming later today.

Dorothy Davis

November 30th, 2011
12:01 pm

Why is it the Phillies make trades that they hope will win them a Championship and the Braves make trades and let go good players to “SAVE MONEY”? Next year (2013) will be a disaster, with McCann on the “GONE” list to save money and the team will be mostly Farm Players. They cannot keep hopeing the fans will be loyal with that kind of management!!

Random

December 1st, 2011
8:47 am

CR: “The Braves did not offer salary arbitration to free agent shortstop Alex Gonzalez on Wednesday’s deadline, choosing not to risk him accepting and commanding more than $3 million in arbitration. . . . . Gonzalez, 34, is seeking a two-year deal, which the Braves weren’t prepared to offer.”

The length of the contract AGonzalez wanted is not a factor — if the Braves had offered arbitration, it would have resulted in a one-year contract.

So the Braves cannot hide behind or use the excuse that they didn’t want to offer him a two-year deal — it was the measly $3-4 M they did not want to give up.

IMO, they should have ponied up for one more year. Who better to mentor young Tyler, who has the offense but needs work on his defense?

Chief Noc-A Homa

December 3rd, 2011
9:52 pm

Can’t be, no way braves announcer said he was the best ss in the NL, you don’t reck’un they were blow’in smoke do ya?

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