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nolie
November 19th, 2011
5:26 pm
think any MLB players are stupid enough to get caught with that much warning?
nolie
November 19th, 2011
5:27 pm
I’m bored but I’m not nice enuff…….
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
5:28 pm
TnBrian-
Oh, I know
nolie loves me- he just can’t show his soft side on the blog 
nolie
November 19th, 2011
5:32 pm
hear anything yet about Queen, cab?
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
5:33 pm
nolie-
nothing yet
keyLargo
November 19th, 2011
5:34 pm
depends on how long the HGH stays in the system. Did you know they had a test? What do you know about it if you did?
nolie
November 19th, 2011
5:36 pm
time 4 my nap.TTFN
DS1
November 19th, 2011
5:37 pm
My Tigers are getting an old fashioned azz whuppin at the hands of the Wolfpack.
Ouch!
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
5:37 pm
later nolie!
nolie
November 19th, 2011
5:38 pm
I knew there was a test KL, I don’t know anything about the details, but I’m guessing they think it can get out of the system b4 they are scheduling the tests to start. Pretty sure they would prefer everybody to pass.
ncgary
November 19th, 2011
5:38 pm
dont fret yet wayne
nc state has a way of coughing up sure things
ncgary
November 19th, 2011
5:40 pm
tigers only need 4 tds
keyLargo
November 19th, 2011
5:47 pm
HGH Testing -
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7255517/new-major-league-baseball-cba-include-testing-hgh-according-sources
ncgary
November 19th, 2011
5:52 pm
so you think you’re a strong man . now what
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DCJLBtKO8Q
2010 North American Strongman National Championships held at the grand sierra casino in Reno, NV
200lb class winner Brandon Mcdonald
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
5:54 pm
Y’all probably won’t find it nearly as interesting as I do (I’m sorta a nerd when it comes to the business side of sports) but it will be an interesting story in the near future…
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Oakland-Athletics-San-Jose-move-decision-accelerated-by-MLB-111911
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
6:03 pm
HGH testing is a blood test.
jeffrey d
November 19th, 2011
6:17 pm
So they can’t study for it?
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
6:19 pm
Will any one tell me why not signing a 26 cuban kid that can play LF but has the range to play CF. Let me say this again short period to judge but WBC 450 and 5 xbhs sounds like a guy we really could use.People act like there is a huge risk. He’s not a oreintal P. He is a Latin everyday player.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
6:21 pm
Cuban-
Because he will command more money than we have to spend. It’s that simple
stew
November 19th, 2011
6:26 pm
First off where does everybody think so much about Fowler. Then why don”t we trade Bourne if he’s not going to be here in a year. It sounds like Tex. How about we try to trade for Wheeler and Arendado and give up Prado and 2 players. Put Wheeler in left field and groom Arendado for Chipper’s job.
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
6:32 pm
He isn’t get a huge contract but who knows there might be a bidding war for a good young player.
josh
November 19th, 2011
6:32 pm
Trade Bourn midseason if we are more then 6 games back in the wildcard. Teams will cave and unload to get JJ and maybe Prado.
On the other hand,
GO WOLFPACK!!!!!
TnBrian
November 19th, 2011
6:34 pm
nolie,
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
6:34 pm
Cuban-
reports are he is asking anywhere between 6 years/$50 million and 8 years/ $60+ million. Not taking that risk for someone that has never played a game at any level of MLB baseball…
TnBrian
November 19th, 2011
6:41 pm
Cuban, according to DOB’s calculations, and he should know, Braves probaly have somewhere in the area of $5 mil to spend on a SS and a LF. Unless they keep Prado there of course which I seriously doubt since A) he nor they appear to like him in that position, and B)super subs on the Braves don’t get like $6 mill a year. We ain’t the Yanks/Sox. Nobody is except for Philly who is quickly creeping up on them in terms of payroll.
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
6:45 pm
Cabravesfan what do you think will be his price tag will be? If we can get a 4yr 40 mill we gotta be all over it. We paid lowe 15 a year seriously. We will have extra money freed next year from Lowe and probably chipper unless he keeps collecting the huge Disability check he keeps receiving. So thats around 25 mill freed we have money. Plus if we get rid of JJ and Prado it’s there dude. We already saved 5 on Lowe, those to can pull some prospects. We need a one year stop gap at short. Then next year plenty of money for a SS, or like I said JJ, Prado, Pats,Delgado for Castro and a couple of low level prospects. We got the depth the cubs suck everywhere, they would take a 4 for one deal on castro. Castro is looked up for several years for next to nothing he just came up.
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
6:48 pm
Hey dummy you gotta gamble sometimes. He killed in the WBC against the Worlds best Hello. He is worth the chance. Scared money don’t make money.
garynpohio
November 19th, 2011
6:49 pm
if we are 6 games back i at the half i think JJ might be the cause but a trade of a good pitching JJ and Bourn midseason for real offensive talent could be a great set up with the excellent young pitching
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
6:49 pm
Cuban-
he is a free agent this year. He is going to sign a long term deal with some team in the very near future. He is going to get, according to most reports, at least 6/$50. He claims to be 26, but he might be older. He has never played in the US against Major league pitching. He is under 6 feet tall and weighs less then 200 pounds. No disrespect meant to some of the international teams he’s played against, but I doubt he’s faced major league caliber pitching on a regular basis. To me, the risk far outweighs the supposed potential.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
6:50 pm
And we still don’t have that kind of money
TnBrian
November 19th, 2011
6:53 pm
Cuban, who you calling dummy? Watch it dude, the only dummy I see is the dummy who keeps ranting over and over and over about signing a kid who will be in the middle of a bidding war. Braves are borderline strapped. That is why Prado and JJ have been linked in trade rumors. It is mostly about money, regardless of what Wren feeds people.
Dummy.
jeffrey d
November 19th, 2011
6:57 pm
Maybe it’s Mark Cuban
TnBrian
November 19th, 2011
6:58 pm
IF Wren were to trade both Prado and JJ for prospects and maybe one guy making no more than a few million will we possibly see the Braves bid on a pricey FA. That’s even if we’re interested in this FA. Money just isn’t there.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:00 pm
And saying he “killed it” against the “world’s best” is a bit of a reach…Cuba played super powers South Africa and Australia (with all due respect to Peter Moylan) and Mexico, which is not really a hot bed of pro baseball players, even though it has produced some good ones.
jeffrey d
November 19th, 2011
7:03 pm
Like Damian Moss
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:05 pm
And Jacobus Mostert
Ozzie
November 19th, 2011
7:11 pm
Bummer about Cuban but maybe he is playing coy…
The Braves are in a need of a passionate owner who will invest in the team and perhaps apply more Sabr to the mix of scouts/gut checks + sweep out some highly paid dinosaurs who have been here too long.
For a franchise that has not been to the WS in 12 years, last won a ring 16 years ago, flat to declining attendance and has been a non factor in the post season since 1999 I would say Cuban is just what they need.
Cuban’s comments were very respectful but I wonder if he really believes them.
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:12 pm
No need to get upset dude. Your behind your computer and I wasn’t talking to you relax. They money will be there next year and if we could get a player with the potentail of kemp for way less than half the price you gotta try it. The team can be sold in Dec right is it possible the Braves get sold and we all might be happy. With prado and JJ gone 5 mill from Lowe gone and The Braves said they where willing to raise the cap how is it not there it’s obvoius they are trying to free space for somebody if not for Yoenis Cespedes it is for some one. He would only be making 7.5 mill two and a half more than prado. We now for sure he is a better OF if he only hits 275 22hr 80 rbis it’s a got contract.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:16 pm
So you were calling me dummy?
How do we know he is a better outfielder? How do we know he will hit for the same type of power against Halliday and Lincecum and Lee as he did against international teams? And what if he comes in, has one good season and starts to decline and we are stuck with him for 5 or 7 more years? Or if he comes in and sucks right away? And again, he is a free agent THIS YEAR AND WE DON’T HAVE THE MONEY.
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:16 pm
Ignore my gramatical errors. The money is there just open yours eyes in look. I mean no harm. I am tired of being a violent person it disturbs your state of mind if your heart is good.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:18 pm
The money might be there next year. But that won’t matter because he will already be signed.
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:19 pm
Where stuck with an aging chipper and does mike hampton ring a bell. There is little risk and more reward. It’s like rating a draft class after the draft only time will tell I guess.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:20 pm
Little risk? It’s a huge risk
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:21 pm
we freed 5 from lowe and we will free money if we trade lowe and jj. I see why you might not want to sign him you have a fair point there sir. The money point however is invalid.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:24 pm
The money point is the whole point. You would rather spend all our remaining money on an unproven player then fill multiple positions that we need more. Because he would take up nearly all the extra money we have right now. (and just FYI, I’m not a guy)
nolie
November 19th, 2011
7:30 pm
Bummer about Cuban but maybe he is playing coy…
haha. I knew someone would ignore his statement. why in the world would he play coy? Face it the guy has no interest in our team
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:31 pm
Cuban has brought over decents pitchers. So if he can hit them well he can hit over here. Again let me state I am not Cuban it is a nickname that is not why I want him. All baseball contracts are a risk Chipper, Hampton, Vernon Wells, Jason Bay, JD Drew, Mo Vaughn,Albert Belle, Manny Rameriz Dodgers contract. I am sure I am missing plenty he will be younger and be making way less!
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:34 pm
Not all contracts are as risky. and he won’t be making “way less” and there is some question regarding his actual age…
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:34 pm
Not all half and that’s for one year again we can trade for castro like I said and then get a backup 3rd baseman. We can use our wealth of minors to fill in our pen we are in a great position.
nolie
November 19th, 2011
7:35 pm
40% of all first round draft choices NEVER even get to the bigs. another 40% never amount to a hill of beans when they do. maybe 10% total end up being impact players. Right there the odds are 9 to one against him being worth the money he wants
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:37 pm
Walking across the street is a risk. Anyone can get hurt dude.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:37 pm
Castro? Castro who?
Why am I even continuing this? It’s not going to happen.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:38 pm
Walking across the street is a risk
True, but if you get hurt walking across the street, your employer won’t be on the hook for $60 million
George
November 19th, 2011
7:39 pm
cab
Hopeing your team can pul off an upset tonight.
jeffrey d
November 19th, 2011
7:39 pm
I wonder what George thinks about this Cuban player
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:39 pm
Don’t compare him to a minor leauger he played proffesional just not in US. We are not the only pro league we are just have the best one.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:40 pm
George-
Me too, but part of me honestly is thinking that Oregon needs to win to keep an All SEC rematch from happening. (I can think this way because it doesn’t matter how many games USC wins because their last game of the season will be next week regardless)
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:40 pm
SS for the cubs All star and young like 20
keyLargo
November 19th, 2011
7:40 pm
Keep on ranting about the 5 million from Lowe if you want to but McCann will go from $6.5 to $11.5 next season and Uggla will go from $9 to $13 million. That takes care of your $5 million. Plus we still don’t have a SS or LF. And these Braves will be getting raises of varying amounts.
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George
November 19th, 2011
7:41 pm
Jeffery
I never heard of him before reading posts above.
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:42 pm
He could have lied about his age too, who knows. Also if the marlins and yankees want Yoenis Cespedes then we should they both have a good eye on hitting talent.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:42 pm
Cuban-
You honestly believe the Cuban professional league is on par with Major League baseball? Or even the Japanese professional leagues??
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:43 pm
Cuban-
Cubs are not going to trade Castro
nolie
November 19th, 2011
7:43 pm
what a foolish comment. walking across the street is not a 90% chance of failing let alone costing 10s of millions of dollars doing it
George
November 19th, 2011
7:44 pm
Wish they had a playoff touament in collage football.
jeffrey d
November 19th, 2011
7:44 pm
Fun fact: The SEC is responsible for the invention of penicillin
jeffrey d
November 19th, 2011
7:45 pm
Cuban-
Cubs are not going to trade Castro
I’m sure there’s a joke in there
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:45 pm
Key largo okay thanks for sharing.I don’t know the pay roll ins and outs. We just need to be bought, again why not Arthur Blank!
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:45 pm
jeffrey-
nolie
November 19th, 2011
7:46 pm
yeah Castro is a nice player and the Cubs would have absolutely no reason in the world to trade away a 22 year old ass start SS with 4 more years under control. sheeeesh
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:47 pm
Just because the team can be put up for sale in December doesn’t mean it will. Besides, even if Liberty Media decides to sell, there is little to zero chance that happens before the season starts so payroll will not see a bump this season regardless
nolie
November 19th, 2011
7:47 pm
all star SS that is ‘)
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:48 pm
nolie-
I liked the first version better
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:48 pm
Japan yes mlb no. Like I said the cubs are horrible they need alot to get better JJ,prado,pats,Delgado for Castro you are crazy if you think they would at least consider if not jump all over that trade. They have needs everywhere they are terrible.
nolie
November 19th, 2011
7:48 pm
in this economy it is long odds against them selling for a number of years most likely, but hey maybe they will get hit crossing the street……
George
November 19th, 2011
7:49 pm
Isn’t Castro a little old to be playing baseball, he must be close to 80 and in poor health.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:50 pm
They are not going to trade a cornerstone of their team that is cheap and talented. They will not get better by trading one of their best young players.
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:50 pm
Okay I’m about to go drown my depression of my team being cheap bought to go buy the absolute.
jeffrey d
November 19th, 2011
7:50 pm
the Cubs would have absolutely no reason in the world to trade away a 22 year old ass start SS
So? We traded away Escobar
nolie
November 19th, 2011
7:50 pm
JJ,prado,pats,Delgado for Castro you are crazy if you think they would at least consider if not jump all over that trade
you have to be crazy to think that the Braves would even consider offering such a trade, I mean REALLY craZy
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:51 pm
nolie-
can an entity get hurt crossing the street?
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:51 pm
Cabravesfan on man isn’t gonna help a bad team four might though.
nolie
November 19th, 2011
7:52 pm
Cuban seems to think everything is a risk including an entity crossing the street too perhaps
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:52 pm
Obviously you equate “cheap” with “logical,” “common sense,” or “not wanting to blow money on a player that may or may not be good.” I’m done trying to explain it and my Trojans are on in a few…
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:53 pm
Well, Braves are not overly keen on parting with Delgado or Pastornicky and the Cubs are not going to trade Castro. So it really doesn’t matter
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:53 pm
We are deep at pitching he is cheap and we wanna shed payroll that’s why we do it. He plays a position of huge need
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:54 pm
Cuban-
It DOESN’T MATTER WHY WE WOULD DO IT. THE CUBS WON’T. END OF STORY
George
November 19th, 2011
7:55 pm
Well Peanut needs out before the game, so have a good one or two tonight y’all.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:55 pm
And trading 2 guys making the minimum (or less in Pastornicky’s case) won’t help to shed payroll.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
7:58 pm
Is it possible we can offer Colorado back to the Big 12? They are dreadfully bad
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
7:58 pm
We can’t put our every minor leaguer we have on the team so that’s why
Kat
November 19th, 2011
7:58 pm
Anyone here ever been to the Braves spring training in FL?
Do they have a similar batting practice on the field experience like they do at Turner Field? I can’t find information online about it but I’ve seen ST BP pictures before where fans are behind home plate..not exactly sure what that is. Any idea?
Bat Masterson
November 19th, 2011
7:58 pm
There is little risk and more reward. __Cuban
Little risk?
What if he is a whistler
Or he jumps up and down in the on deck circle
Or pouts
Or stands there and admires a homerun leaving Fredi no choice but to order a code red
Do you want to see hgeap in leavenworth?
Cuban
November 19th, 2011
8:00 pm
The South is where real ball players are pac 12 blows. SEC is the farm system for the pros.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
8:01 pm
We can’t put our every minor leaguer we have on the team so that’s why
Missed my point again. We could come up with a million reasons why we should trade for Castro, starting with he is good, young, and cheap. But not one of those reasons matter at all. The Cubs also like that he is good, young, and cheap. So they are not going to trade him.
Sopheee
November 19th, 2011
8:01 pm
Uh oh, someone better hold cab back.
Lew
November 19th, 2011
8:02 pm
Mike Hampton and Chipper aren’t even apples and oranges. Hampton missed three full years without pitching. Chipper missed 39 games last season even with knee surgery.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
8:05 pm
The South is where real ball players are pac 12 blows. SEC is the farm system for the pros.
USC has had 472 players drafted in the NFL, more than any other school.
USC has had 72 first round picks in the NFL, more than any other school.
USC has 11 NFL Hall of Famers, more than any other school.
(also, USC has never played a D-IAA school. The SEC played 4 today)
Lew
November 19th, 2011
8:06 pm
Bat – You asked about DiamondBack Mac – Got a FB message from him this morning. Seems he’s fine.
cabravesfan
November 19th, 2011
8:07 pm
Oh, USC also has the best Bowl winning percentage among the 65 schools that have made at least 10 bowl appearances, at .660