7:46 pm November 18, 2011, by David O'Brien
November 29th, 20117:50 pm
Renteria shouldnt be a option in my opinion. He just declined so fast after his final year in Atlanta. He isnt good at anything anymore. Terrible defender, not much with the bat either. But regardless he’ll prolly have to sign a minor league deal and battle for a bench spot on any team. Wouldnt mind if they invited him to ST just too see. Just crazy how he can go from 860. OPS to 699. in one season.
oh well, who was gonna read that big long ol’ thang anyhoo?
November 29th, 20117:51 pm
Yeah that was too long.
November 29th, 20117:53 pm
not if the subject interests you.actually I think there are a few who will read it if they see it
time for a nap.BBL
November 29th, 20117:55 pm
do you see the braves a real player in the rollins/reyes sweepstakes ?
Historically, they haven’t spent big on position player free agents. They have a couple of good SS prospects in the minors. As much as they could use one of those guys for 2012, I have my doubts. If I’m a Braves fan, I’d LIKE to see them do that and keep Prado to play left field/third base. Maybe they’ll dangle one of their pitchers for one of Boston’s shortstops — Lowrie, Aviles, Scutaro. Seems like a good match there.
Julio (Dominican Republic)
What’s your suggestion for the Braves in order to address the need for a capable SS (until Pastornicky arrives) and a legitimate LF (Prado is not an everyday LF, he’s a super sub!!!!). Do you see them bringing up Pastornicky if they can’t find a veteran SS for a year?
I do think Pastornicky is a viable alternative, or maybe a midseason call-up after a little more time in Triple-A. I still think there’s a deal to be made with Boston. Lowrie if they want to pay more, Aviles if they want to pay less.
jeff (NY, NY)
Does Lowerie really have any value? He is always hurt and is going to be arb eligible next year
The more I look at Lowrie … you’re probably right. And he wasn’t that good at the plate last year (.303 OBP). Anyway, it will be an interesting to see what the Braves do with those young pitchers: Remember, for every three pitching prospects, maybe one turns into somethings. But it will be Teheran or Vizcaino or Minor?
November 29th, 20117:56 pm
I read it,nolie. Of course, I might need a nap also after that.
November 29th, 20118:06 pm
The more I look at Lowrie … you’re probably right. And he wasn’t that good at the plate last year (.303 OBP).
Ugh. Can’t he look these things up before writing that it’d be a good move for them? Just makes me scratch my head.
November 29th, 20118:08 pm
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November 29th, 20118:32 pm
Whew that’s a lot of reading, nolie. Remided me of college.
November 29th, 20118:38 pm
Shi% I wish they’d do something. Any free chance I get I check this place out and MLBTR the last few weeks and I feel sorta stupid. Anticipating something, getting nothing. I think I just get so bored with stuff in my life anyways and my team breaks that boredom, just not right now. I like action.
Next meetings will definitely be interesting. That’s the 8th through whatever, right?
November 29th, 20118:44 pm
Oh My God tv sucks! Any show I do like are just reruns.
Think I’ll play The Show. Been a few weeks since I played. I’ll be the Braves of course. Who should I trade for? I had to make my own Jonny Venters cause the Jonny they made had hair and looked nothing like him. It was bugging me. Freeman too. Him because he is a rookie and the game doesn’t take time on those people. Except Heyward, they had him perfectly.
November 29th, 20118:46 pm
Pastornicky at SS. Wilson as the backup. Drew Sutton takes Conrad’s role.
Liberty Media pockets the rest of the cash.
November 29th, 20118:47 pm
Edgar Renteria made $2.1 M last year and Pastornicky would make $.5 M. How much more would it take to sign one of the best defensive SS in MLB for goodness sakes?
Chipper made 130 or so errors in three years IIRC Nolie
Yes he did (in the minors) and he was never the choice to play SS in MLB after that although he did play some in the 90’s because we didn’t have anyone else. I simply don’t care if AGon doesn’t hit. He’s going to hit a few timely HR’s and works well with Uggla. I just can’t see them going with an unproven rookie at the most important defensive position.
November 29th, 20118:52 pm
that was very good and yes loooong, I copied it to re-read later. I have a 15yr old who’s tettering on 4-5 tools and wanted to show him this over the winter down time.
Liberty Media's dream 2012 roster
November 29th, 20118:57 pm
C McCann, 1B Freeman, 2B Uggla, SS Pastornicky, 3B Jones, LF Prado, CF Bourn, RF Heyward
UTL – Ross, Hinske, Diaz, Wilson, Sutton
Starters – Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, Beachy, Minor
Relievers – Kimbrel, Venters, EOF, Vizcaino, Medlen, Sherrill replacement, C-Mart
November 29th, 20118:59 pm
nolie, good read. Took awhile, but good read nonetheless.
November 29th, 20119:07 pm
Liberty Media’s dream 2012 roster
If they do nothing, than that’s probably where it ends up. I still think that’s a very good team. However, I’m just not sure it’s Frank’s MO to sit around and go into 2012 with the same song and dance. He seems a bit more aggressive.
November 29th, 20119:08 pm
at the top of rumor mill it talks of Prado being the Tigers #1 target. Izturis is the fallback
November 29th, 20119:24 pm
Jurrjens will be traded if possible. Medlen will join Minor in replacing Jurrjens and Lowe. Delgado and Teheran will start in AAA. Vizcaino will come to spring training as a starter but leave spring training as a set up man for the big league club.
November 29th, 20119:28 pm
Jolie, thanks for the scouting article. Baseball is my favorite sport because of its enormous simplicity and it’s enormous complexity.
I love that a team with great scouting and development can outperform a team that just buys talent.
Now that steroids are becoming less of a factor, baseball should get a lot younger and turn over more quickly. That shifts the emphasis to a team’s development side.
Maicer Izturis is someone I would like to play SS for the Braves this year. Don’t know that the Angels would move him. I’m sure before they do anything they will see where CJ Wilson falls.
November 29th, 20119:29 pm
Nolie became Jolie.
November 29th, 20119:31 pm
Very good read nolie. Had a talk this past year w/ one of Boras’ scouts at a local high school game and we were talking about various things we look at in players. One of the nicest guys I’ve met in baseball and he took the time to BS w/ me.
Winter watch 11/30/11
November 29th, 20119:38 pm
Fielder, Pujols, Reyes, Rollins, Beltran, Ortiz, Cuddyer, Willingham, Wilson, Buerhle, Jackson, Oswalt, Yu Darvish, Madson, Bell, K-Rod
November 29th, 20119:50 pm
Terrible read nolie. Had to go get some excedrine after that drawn out mess you posted. Shame on you sir.
November 29th, 20119:51 pm
November 29th, 20119:55 pm
Lionel, damn dude. Wrong place for that stuff. Adios, you be booted
November 30th, 20119:49 am
No No No Do not trade Prado…He can play any position. He is a very valuable commodity to the Braves.. Chipper won’t play 100 games this year. Who would you put on 3rd?
Nutts to that rumor..
November 30th, 201110:09 am
Nothing new about this article. All the same stuff. The headline is brilliant. Trades have to strengthen the Braves. Nothing to see here….move along.
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