Wren: Must be sure trades strengthen Braves

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cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
12:49 pm

Should be a good game

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
12:52 pm

I’m in santa rosa beach, Fl

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
12:54 pm

Bat-

Good to know ;)

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
12:54 pm

Is it warm there? Because it’s not warm here.

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
12:58 pm

Cab__

70 and mostly sunny right now. Sorry to hear its chilly there.

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
12:59 pm

Bat-

That sounds nice. I can’t feel my feet. It’s supposed to rain tomorrow :(

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
12:59 pm

Watching the KU/A&M game is making me sad. I need to find something else to watch

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:03 pm

Not sure that Ga Tech/ Duke is a much better pick but at least it’s a competitive game

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:03 pm

I suggest warm socks, cab.

What you don’t get the Ga v kentucky game?

Gary O

November 19th, 2011
1:04 pm

I’m a Chipper fan, but his situation really complicates things for Wren.

It’s hard to trade Prado when he will be needed to play 40 games at 3B for Chipper. And because of that, we also need a backup LF who can play 40 games when Prado plays 3B.

It would be nice if he had a full time 3B who we could count on for 140 games (like Aramis Ramirez).

And with Chipper having an option for 2012-2013, Prado might or might not be the full time replacement. What happens next offseason when 1) Chipper plays enough games for his 2012-2013 option to kick in or 2) Even if his option doesn’t kick in, he says he wants to play another year?

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:04 pm

Bat-

Mainly because it’s on a crappy channel here

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:08 pm

Aramis Ramirez has played 140+ games twice in the last 5 years, which is one more season then Chipper

Last 5 years: Ramirez 636 games played, Chipper 626 games played.

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:09 pm

Bat-

Finding warm socks (don’t have many pairs of warm socks) requires me to get up and go looking for them.. :)

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:09 pm

Too bad, cab

6 to 3 Ga

Crowell hurt again. Guy is always getting nicked up or pulling himself to rest.

CB

November 19th, 2011
1:13 pm

cab,are we supposed to feel sorry for you for your weather? I mean,really? Really? :-)

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:13 pm

Ha, use the dog as a foot warmer

Damn it, fumble Ga

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:15 pm

CB-

It’s cold and…sorta gray…yes you are! :D

Bat-

Dog doesn’t like feet. She’d bite me if I tried to tuck them under her.

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:17 pm

Sounds like you need another ddog.

Nice hit rambo

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:20 pm

another dog?? NEVER! My Nala is perfect!

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:22 pm

Good grief

Two stupid penalties against Ga

TD kentucky

You know even if Kentucky is not very good you still have to try, right Georgia.

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:23 pm

Get an extra dog for her to play with and to keep your feet warm

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:24 pm

Bat-

She would eat the 2nd dog, bite my toes off and go sleep on the bed. Then I would have no toes, a dead dog and blood and entrails everywhere that would need to be cleaned up and my feet would still be cold…

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:28 pm

Odd definition of the perfect dog.

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:29 pm

Bat-

:D She’s perfect in my eyes

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:29 pm

She has Only Child Syndrome- she doesn’t play well with others (dogs- she loves people)

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:31 pm

Hell just have VJ bring you some socks

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:34 pm

VJ won’t be home until after 6

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:35 pm

I got some. But all my good fuzzy slipper socks are in the laundry pile…

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:41 pm

10 to 9 kentucky.

At least Walsh is 3 for 3 on field goals

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:44 pm

Fumble Kentcky Ga’s ball on wildcats 30

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:48 pm

12 to 10 Ga

Not looking good as far as covering the spread in concerned

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:49 pm

Florida going out on a limb playing that super power that is I-AA Furman in the 3rd week of November. Getting what they deserve, down 22-7 in the 1st quarter

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
1:53 pm

Ha, funny about the Gators

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
1:58 pm

South Carolina, Auburn, & Alabama are also playing 1-AA teams today…why, I have no idea

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NickB

November 19th, 2011
2:32 pm

Did I see somebody recommend picking up Orlando Cabrera for SS? You mean the guy who actually found a way to have a lower OBP than Gonzo last 3 seasons? Ummm, no!!!!!!!!!

David O'Brien

November 19th, 2011
2:32 pm

Here’s what Mark Cuban said via email when I asked him about possibly buying Braves and told him about the 95 percent “yes” votes from fans who’d like him to try to buy the team:

“I’m flattered by the fans’ response. While I respect the amazing tradition and history of the Braves, and ATL is a great sports town, it’s not a franchise I would pursue.”

I followed up by asking if that was because he had a preference for franchises further West, or if there was some other factor involved. His response:

“I like franchises that need a lot of help. The Braves have a great franchise.”

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
2:33 pm

My god, another turn over by ga

TommyP

November 19th, 2011
2:35 pm

Wow…. Hell of a response from Cuban.

I thought I was the only one that appreciated rebuilding efforts. LOL

TnBrian

November 19th, 2011
2:37 pm

Got to respect Mark Cuban’s honesty.

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
2:37 pm

“I like franchises that need a lot of help. The Braves have a great franchise.”

Ha. “Its not you, its me”

keyLargo

November 19th, 2011
2:39 pm

When the SEC went to a 12 game schedule, most schools either scheduled a patsie Division 1 or a Division II schoool to pick up an extra win. Georgia beat New Mexico State 2 weeks ago 63 to 14 or something close to that.

It is a win win situation though. Ga paid NMS about $1 million to come to Athens. (All the 12th games are played at the SEC schools stadium).

Cuban

November 19th, 2011
2:40 pm

So i like trying to trade with the angels that makes sense if we can get trout,bourjos. Also like i said earlier the cubs are willing to trade and they need depth. Lets go get castro and some low level prospects for JJ,prado,pats,delgado. Also the Cuban kid to play LF they say he is a true CF so left will be easy and our OF would be extremely great fielding OF. In the WBC he hit over 450 with 5 xbhs go get this dude. Also Cuban is a nickname not my nationality, so that is not why I want him. I see Stanton like potential. If the Braves want to really win spent on scouting look how the dodgers get all there talent from within.

Bill

November 19th, 2011
2:41 pm

Thanks DOB….you the man!

nolie

November 19th, 2011
2:42 pm

you think the Angels are gonna trade Trout for Prado and/or Juggjens?

keyLargo

November 19th, 2011
2:42 pm

“I like franchises that need a lot of help. The Braves have a great franchise.”

A man that can come up with a response like that off the cuff deserves to be rich and famous.

jeffrey d

November 19th, 2011
2:42 pm

another turn over by ga

This was supposed to be a bye week

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
2:44 pm

There is no reason a Big 6 conference school should be playing a I-AA school past the first 2 or 3 weeks of the season, if they insist on playing a lower division at all…

jeffrey d

November 19th, 2011
2:45 pm

Everybody does it. It’s just a filler in-between conference games

nolie

November 19th, 2011
2:45 pm

want a lil’ cheese cab?

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
2:46 pm

jeffrey-

not everyone. and certainly not this late in the season

Cuban

November 19th, 2011
2:48 pm

What about bonafacio from the marlins he is versitile. He can play everywhere besides C and 1st. Maybe they will take prado for him straight up. It makes sense for both teams they get more power we get the speed and ss we need. It makes to much sense.

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
2:49 pm

It makes to much sense.

Except that it doesn’t for the Marlins because they don’t need a 2nd baseman and they don’t need a left fielder

Gary O

November 19th, 2011
2:49 pm

cabravesfan,

Maybe Aramis was not a good example lol. But my point remains the same. With Chipper, would anyone pencil him in for more than 120 games? We need a 3B who we can feel confident about them playing 140+ games.

That would make it alot easier to trade Prado.

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
2:50 pm

This was supposed to be a bye week

It looks like its gonna be one if something doesn’t change.

Bye bye SEC East championship

Tomas

November 19th, 2011
2:51 pm

Yeah got to respect Cuban’s honesty. But I doubt he would consider buying the Royals or the Pirates

jeffrey d

November 19th, 2011
2:55 pm

45 minutes into the game, and Georgia scores its first touchdown!

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
2:55 pm

TD Georgia …………… Thank you

nolie

November 19th, 2011
2:55 pm

even missing 40+ games Chipper was like 7th in Runs Created by 3rd basemen. that means most all those guys who played more games were actually less helpful to their teams than he was

nolie

November 19th, 2011
2:59 pm

plus if Prado had a normal year, the combo would have been near the top in productivity

David O'Brien

November 19th, 2011
3:00 pm

If Barmes (.656 OPS in ‘10, .698 OPS in ‘11) getting 2-yr deal w/ Pirates, then A.Gonz (.676 & .642 those years, and better defensively) will get 2-yr deal somewhere IMO

nolie

November 19th, 2011
3:01 pm

more than likely right about Gonzo

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
3:05 pm

I think I just killed VJ

nolie

November 19th, 2011
3:08 pm

Tom will be happy about that, gives him another chance…….

CB

November 19th, 2011
3:08 pm

cab, police are on the way.

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
3:09 pm

you raise a good point nolie… :)

Cuban

November 19th, 2011
3:09 pm

Cabravesfan no they don’t need a 2nd baseman we gave then Omar. They don’t need a LF either they got logan morrison. They might use a third baseman if reyes doesn’t sign with marlins. Hanley would move to third if reyes signs.

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
3:09 pm

CB-

He’s not here. They will never find him

CB

November 19th, 2011
3:11 pm

Ooooh,doggie ate VJ.

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
3:12 pm

Nah..dog likes VJ :)

nolie

November 19th, 2011
3:14 pm

VJ musta tried to warm his feet under the dog I bet CB

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
3:14 pm

He’s not here. They will never find him

Sounds like a job for Harry Bosch

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
3:15 pm

I was relaying the end of the William & Mary/ Richmond game to him via text. WM won on a 4th & goal touchdown with 2 seconds left and I have not heard from him since…

Cuban

November 19th, 2011
3:15 pm

Resign wilson and we can move Bonfacio to 3rd when chipper gets hurt

nolie

November 19th, 2011
3:15 pm

it’s not like Omar is all that special when he plays full time……….

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
3:16 pm

relief…he’s alive :D (sorry Tom)

Tom

November 19th, 2011
3:18 pm

Cuban

November 19th, 2011
3:18 pm

Point exactly nolie so they could be a good trade for both teams. Also what about the royals and pirates.

nolie

November 19th, 2011
3:18 pm

yup, Harry is right out there in that area too,
……or maybe Elvis Cole could help ( you need to try the Robert Crais books too)

nolie

November 19th, 2011
3:20 pm

Bonifacio had a great year, but it was really his first one that he got on base enough IIRC

keyLargo

November 19th, 2011
3:22 pm

Bonafacio for Prado will never even be discussed.

nolie

November 19th, 2011
3:24 pm

you know Black Cherry Blues won the Edgar that year for best detective novel Bat

keyLargo

November 19th, 2011
3:24 pm

………..and a lot of y’all would be very, very unhappy with a lot of these SS’s defense after Escobar and Gonzalez.

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
3:24 pm

Nolie_

Cool another good series. I’m a third of the way through ” A Strained White Radiance”. Burke,s writing has improved with every book so far. Good stuff

McFann O O o

November 19th, 2011
3:25 pm

Who is Mark Cuban, anyway?

CB

November 19th, 2011
3:25 pm

nolie,have you heard anything on Pastornicky’s defense other tha JoeBrave’s opinion?

Cuban

November 19th, 2011
3:26 pm

All I know is the braves need a right handed batter with power. We hit homers as a team but uggla is the only real power hitter. We need a quick ss and a power hitting LF. Have ya’ll every heard of the field of dreams? If you build it they will come, so lets build a team that can actually hit. You gotta spend money to make money. Invest wisely and the fruits of profit will be plentiful.

cabravesfan

November 19th, 2011
3:27 pm

McFann-

He’s the billionaire owner of the Dallas Mavericks…here is his wikipedia page (for what that’s worth)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
3:27 pm

Black cherry blues was a very good one, nolie. Not surprised he won an award for it.

McFann O O o

November 19th, 2011
3:29 pm

Thanks, cabravesfan!

nolie

November 19th, 2011
3:34 pm

I saw him a bit in Bradenton HS CB. He had a funny arm slot that seemed to hinder what was an average arm. had pretty decent range. I would have thought someone would have worked with him on his throwing but maybe not. What I have read since seems to show him as average to a bit above average range and an average arm, but not the noodle that Joe sees. But I have not seem himexcept for a bit of tape that a local friend has of hin in A ball in Dunedin. seemed to fit with what I had read.
The consensus out of the Braves sphere is mixed, some don’t think he will be more than a decent backup long term in the bigs.
If they can bolster LF a bit he might do alright hitting 8th

McFann O O o

November 19th, 2011
3:35 pm

Happy Birthday, Alan Young! 92 years old today…

“Wiiiiilllburrrrr!…”

Cuban

November 19th, 2011
3:36 pm

All I know is no one likes a penny pusher. That’s all the braves are doing.This is ATL people do show up this isn’t tampa or mia we actually show up to games and more people will come if they spend more than what they have. The will see the return if they just put more in. Give me a payroll of 110 and we could kill people. When Chipper comes of the books along with lowe we’ll have all kinds of free money. Hudson is getting long in the tooth as well and he makes like 9 or 10 mill. Imagine 35 mill freed from them and 20 mill extra spend around 110 I’d like I spend we could spend wildly.

Jeff R

November 19th, 2011
3:37 pm

DOB, thanks for the query to Cuban. His response should clear things up.

Jamey Carroll was no replacement for Prado, IMO.

TommyP

November 19th, 2011
3:37 pm

DOB: No he won’t.

Barmes has flexibility on his side. He can play 2B or SS.

Barmes is also at least equal to Gonzalez in fielding. His numbers suggest better.

nolie

November 19th, 2011
3:38 pm

I think it might have been his best. Bat. the books are still great but he is
in the beginning, a more complex and interesting character. As the series progresses he becomes a bit stiffer and more self righteous. and Clete becomes a more pivotal character at times.

CB

November 19th, 2011
3:38 pm

Thaks,nolie.

Bat Masterson

November 19th, 2011
3:39 pm

Georgia Bulldogs SEC East Champions.

It may not have been pretty but I’ll take it.

Go Dawgs!

nolie

November 19th, 2011
3:43 pm

Barnes is not equal in fielding with Gonzo, though he is above average.
I keep printing the Bill James/Fielding Bible rankings for 2011

Alex Gonzalez +22
Brendan Ryan +22
Ronny Cedeno +15
Clint Barmes +14
Paul Janish +14
Elvis Andrus +14
Elliot Johnson +13
Alcides Escobar +12
John McDonald +11
Reid Brignac +11

TommyP

November 19th, 2011
3:43 pm

Bat: Ugly game but I can’t wipe the smile from my face.

Go Dawgs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/Individual_Team_blogs/Georgia_Blog.html

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