1:47 pm November 4, 2011, by Carroll Rogers
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 4th, 20118:21 pm
ajcbraves Tweet I’m told #Braves have not “shopped” Prado/Jurrjens, but will listen to offers for them or about anyone not 5/10 guy. If it makes team better
That’s slightly unsettling…
November 4th, 20118:22 pm
For the idiots who keep calling for Chipper to hang up the spikes…..please do yourselves a favor and understand this. In 2011 there were only eight 3B with more hits than Chipper (125), there were only three 3B with more doubles than Chipper (33), there were only six 3B with more home runs (18) and more RBI (72) than Chipper. Chipper also had 51 walks, which was fewer than only 7 other 3B, and was just about the only one on our team with less than 100 strike outs (80). He was also better than all but four 3B with his OBP, SLG, and OPS, and all that on 126 games. So if thats what we have to look forward to next year….then I’m completely comfortable with it, because i promise theres not a better one in the free agent pool, at least not that we could afford. So haters, do yourselves a favor and stop hating. Thanks!
November 4th, 20118:28 pm
I dont know what world you live in if Betimit was once considered one of our star shortstops, because surely you are not referring to Wilson Betimit. Maybe you meant to say Renteria?
November 4th, 20118:29 pm
I’m told #Braves have not “shopped” Prado/Jurrjens, but will listen to offers for them or about anyone not 5/10 guy. If it makes team better
What the F happened during those internal meetings for crying out loud? Who is a 5/10 guy? Hudson and Chipper, I believe, right? Man. I hope McCann isn’t even being considered. I mean, geeez.
November 4th, 20118:31 pm
I guess there is no harm in listening. I guess…
November 4th, 20118:38 pm
Lew (November 2nd, 2011 3:18 pm): “Unless Wren comes up with another blockbuster trade for a shortstop or an appreciable corner outfielder, what we will see is a stop gap ss to hold the fort until Padytornicky or Simmons is ready and a part – time corner outfielder to play left when Prado plays third and right when Heyward needs time off or falters.”
Lew, I love ya, man.
You’re the best, Jerry — the best.
November 4th, 20118:40 pm
“I dont know what world you live in if Betimit was once considered one of our star shortstops, because surely you are not referring to Wilson Betimit. Maybe you meant to say Renteria?”
Uhhhh, it was sarcasm. and I wasn’t talking about how he actually played. I’m talking about the “hype” around him. chipper never played SS either. Yunel was far from a superstar…. etc…
Try and keep up.
November 4th, 20118:43 pm
Bat Masterson (November 3rd, 2011 12:59 pm): ” ‘Is this
a typo, or did George quit hording A’s?’ _ jeffrey
“A couple of weeks ago George posted that he had just learned he was
spelling y’all wrong. Which just goes to show he does not pay attention to
either of us, jeffrey.”
I take full and sole credit for George’s epiphany.
(Don’t make me prove it.)
“Minor well never pitch as good as Jurrjens has.”
Funny. I’d take what Minor did in the 2nd half last year over what Jurrjens gave us any day of the week. A big part of being productive is being available. Can’t count on Jair for that now, can we?
November 4th, 20118:44 pm
FRANK WREN will listen on anyone but Jones, Hudson, McCann, Uggla, Bourn, Heyward, Freeman, Hanson, Beachy, Minor, Teheran, Delgado, Vizcaino, Kimbrel, Venters, Medlen, O’Flaherty, Pastornicky, Simmons, Salcedo, Bethancourt, and Gilmartin.
Efrim I hope McCann isn’t even being considered.
Maybe he’s in the “about” category…
Sure there is!! Really, though, even if they did “just listen” to offers for BMac (which would still be loony), to quote Linus, “Don’t tell me. I don’t wanna know…”…I mean, I don’t think I do…
November 4th, 20118:46 pm
Or maybe what the writer of that Tweet meant was 5/6 guys…
November 4th, 20118:49 pm
Actually, had Chipper not been moved to 3rd, im sure he wouldve done quite well there. Yunel wasnt that bad either.
November 4th, 20118:51 pm
FRANK WREN will listen on anyone but Jones, Hudson, McCann, Uggla, Bourn, Heyward, Freeman, Hanson, Beachy, Minor, Teheran, Delgado, Vizcaino, Kimbrel, Venters, Medlen, O’Flaherty, Pastornicky, Simmons, Salcedo, Bethancourt, and Gilmartin
That made me laugh. And I’d bet it’s almost true.
Sure there is!! Really, though, even if they did “just listen” to offers for BMac (which would still be loony), to quote Linus, “Don’t tell me. I don’t wanna know…”…I mean, I don’t think I do…
If the idea is to win, then there is really no reason McCann should even be considered. It was an interesting statement, thanks for letting us know!
November 4th, 20118:52 pm
Amen N8 – Len Barker still hurts
Efrim – thanks for the link. I still don’t see the Braves trading Minor but if they could get an elite prospect like Myers plus a ML quality reliever or Cain then Wren has to think about it.
Bottom line – if the Braves want Myers they have to give more than just Jurrjens.
“Combining his minor and major league stats is like using the AFL pick next year’s MLB all-stars. His major league OBP is .339″
Are we really nitpicking over .011 difference on his OBP. For cryin’ out loud, I’ve seen it all.
“Yeah, that’s not really how it works…”
Strange. I took his plate appearances for the entire year (both AAA and ML) and then using how many times he got on base via hit, BB, hbp I came up with that number.
How was I supposed to do it?
In 96 when Andruw got called up, EVERY publication and media outlet talked about how he “combined” in the minor leagues to hit 24 HR and have 92 RBI. At AAA that year, he had 5 HR and 12 RBI. Is that all they should have talked about?
Contstanza’s career minor league OBP is .364, his OBP in the minors in 2011 was .361. His OBP in Atlatna was .339. Combined between AAA and Atlanta in 2011 it was .350.
Let’s just say that he gets on base around 34-36 times out of every 100 PA throughout his career and call it good, shall we?
In 119 plate appearances, he was on base 39 times to give him the .339 OBP. In order for hit to have “matched” his .364 career number?
He needed to get on base 4 more times. I can see what all the fuss and cherry-picking of numbers is all about. (eyes rolled back so far in my head I might black out)
Steve from OH
November 4th, 20118:54 pm
I trust Frank’s judgment. I think you all probably should, too.
The man gets stuff done, period.
November 4th, 20118:56 pm
“Actually, had Chipper not been moved to 3rd, im sure he wouldve done quite well there. Yunel wasnt that bad either.”
You’re still missing the point. The point was to reunite all of our “former top prospect” shortstops.
Chipper was moved to 3B because his knee was blown out and his range was diminished. Yunel was so good…. he was traded for Alex Gonzalez.
Of ALL of the “can’t miss” shortstops that have rolled into and beyond Atlanta, Furcal was the most productive of the bunch for the Braves. Really no denying that.
Clearly, Chipper was the most productive. But since he’s played all of 47 games in his career at SS….. that doesn’t really count.
November 4th, 20118:58 pm
No i got that, not trying to argue. Just didnt quite pick up on the sarcasm in the first post. no big deal friend
November 4th, 20118:59 pm
Efrim If the idea is to win, then there is really no reason McCann should even be considered.
I agree. Trade his left oblique, but not him…
It was an interesting statement, thanks for letting us know!
You’re welcome! Came from DOB’s Twitter page…thought the Blog would find it int’resting…
but….we both know Yunel wasnt moved for his talent level lol
That’s fine ohhhYEAH. Not trying to argue back. Just making sure you got that the entire post was sarcasm and I wasn’t trying to actually make a serious “bid” to reunite all those guys.
November 4th, 20119:01 pm
Although, if either could stay healthy, i wouldnt mind seeing Furcal or Renteria back to fill the void for Tyler. Still love Alex’s glove though….just wish he could do somethin at the plate
November 4th, 20119:02 pm
Little bit more from MLBtraderumors. Just speculation, of course:
Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports notes (on Twitter) that it shouldn’t be tough for Atlanta to find a taker for Prado if they’re really motivated to move him. The Blue Jays, Tigers, Twins, Cardinals, and Dodgers could all use an upgrade at second base. Troy Renck of The Denver Post speculates (on Twitter) that the Rockies could get involved, possibly using Dexter Fowler or Charlie Blackmon as trade bait. Both outfielders are from Georgia.
November 4th, 20119:05 pm
Steve, how ya been man?
November 4th, 20119:08 pm
Sounds like free agents can’t sign with teams until the system is figured out, per Peter Gammons. I’m assuming that means free agent compensation.
November 4th, 20119:10 pm
November 4th, 20119:11 pm
If we trade Martin Prado….HOLY SH!T I might have to take a break from being a braves fan. He has 1 less than stellar year and he’s expendable. He was the MVP of our 2010 season and he can play better than average defense at 3 or 4 positions?? How is this not obvious…Martin could be our 2-hole hitter for years to come. Imagine the line up starting like Bourn, Prado, Heyward/Freeman, McCann, Uggla, Freeman/Heyward…
Resign Prado. PLEEEEEAAASSEEE. He’s the best example of character on and off the field to come through this organization in a long time….
November 4th, 20119:16 pm
Prado is expendible in that his best position is 2B which is taken. If he can upgrade our team then we trade him. As far as examples – i was very disappointed with the lack of effort by Prado late in the season in breaking up double plays on numerous occasion. His effort was not there for whatever reason.
November 4th, 20119:17 pm
Random – Damn, I can’t type. Or edit, apparently
November 4th, 20119:20 pm
Staph slowed him down…
November 4th, 20119:25 pm
Like Franceour, Prado is extremely aggressive that’s why he has an OBP barely over 300.
Tomas, Prado’s career OBP is 341, which includes 2011 pulling it down.
November 4th, 20119:34 pm
I do not believe the Braves will trade Prado in the foreseeable future.
November 4th, 20119:36 pm
I like Prado, I really do, but trading him makes far more sense than trading JJ, IMO. But only if they go after a legitimate upgrade for LF
Say what you want about Jurrjens, but when he’s healthy, he wins and is pretty much the only one on the staff (besides Hudson) that can consistently go 7+ without blowing up.
Prado for Jhonny Peralta?
WHEN DOES FA START?
November 4th, 20119:42 pm
So the phillies snag Thome.
November 4th, 20119:44 pm
Is the ROYALS LO-C in our future in LF? Are PRADO and DIAZ history in BRAVES’ uni’s? Time will tell.
Lee in S GA
November 4th, 20119:48 pm
looks like to me the Braves are ready to make a minor overhaul and i am glad…J.J. and Prado should bring them some decent players in return ..if not with the Royals well seek elsewhere…I don’t see them offering McCann a extended contract either at this time
The people with whom the Cubs have been linked for managerial positions are Pete Mackanin, Dale Sveum and Mike Maddux. Do the Cubs seem like a rough place to begin one’s managerial career? Or is 1908 so long ago as to give one a bit of latitude?
November 4th, 20119:50 pm
monty (November 3rd, 2011 10:41 am): “As far as Pujols
height is concerned, I don’t trust media guides, I look at comparisons when
players stand next to each other. And for my money, seeing him stand at 1b
next to others, I have always been surprised by how short he looks standing
next to some ball players. I would estimate he’s more like 6′1″- 6′2″
tall than he is 6′3”.”
So, you can detect a one inch (about 1.3%) difference in height from your
TV? Must be one of those brand new high-def plasma 3D 15 foot models, huh?
“JMO. Chipper is much taller than [Pujols] is. And I think he’s listed
Based on what, the media guides?
Changes a coming!
November 4th, 20119:54 pm
Jurrjens, Prado and McCann. See you later!
November 4th, 20119:56 pm
My Trojans are on ESPN right now…
November 4th, 201110:01 pm
Theres a lot of things to consider in moving Prado or Jurrjens. As far as Jurrjens is concerned, you are really weakening the rotation. I would like to see the Braves take a flier on a veteran SP that is not a top dollar guy and bring him to ST if Jurrjens is moved. Prado’s value is definitely in his versatility but his best positions are definitely INF. KC can place him at 2B and give him more ample playing time. Lorenzo Cain is very intriguing player in the KC system. I believe Bourn will try to test the FA market and having Cain in the system protects us if he decides to test the market. Besides the ability to steal 50+ bases, I’m not sure theres a significant drop of in ability.
Another thing to consider is that we already have Ross, Diaz, and Hinske on the bench for next year. If Prado is moved in the super utility roll that leaves room for one player who must be capable of playing both SS and CF. Not many of those available.
November 4th, 201110:03 pm
Rahm and Theo hanging out:
Nobody seems to want to answer the question I asked earlier.
Prado PED yes:
Proado PED no:
I just find it to much of a coincidence that his 2007 and 2011 stats are so close to the same and about 10% less than his stats in 2008, 09, 10.
2006/2007………………………….277 .330 .366 .697
2008………………………………..320 .377 .461 .838
2009………………………………..307 .358 .464 .822.
2010………………………………..307 .350 .459 .809
2011……………………………………………260 .302 .385 .687
November 4th, 201110:07 pm
Prado taking PEDs during the time they have tested for them the most? Unlikely. 2011 has a lot to do with Staph infection and trying to pull too much.
As far as a stop gap at SS this year, I think Ryan Theriot is an intresting candidate. He is a non-tender candidate right now so not a FA as of yet. I haven’t seen enough of him to know much about his defense but offensively he wouldn’t be a bad number 8 hitter. I know he doesn’t have much power but over his career he has put up a similar OPS to current FA SS Alex Gonzalez.
A Gon .247/ .291/ .399/ .690
Theriot .282/ .344/ .353/ .697
November 4th, 201110:12 pm
Plus Theriot’s splits are pretty good.
vs RHP .276 .334 .337 .671
vs LHP .301 .373 .401 .775
Away .275 .342 .334 .676
Home .289 .346 .372 .718
November 4th, 201110:16 pm
1B TERDO [.349 BA] 3-4, 3 R, 1 2B , 1 HR , 3 RBI , 2 BB, 1 SO. Amazing what a day off after a hat trick can do. Our boy is raking the old pill again.
RF MATT KENNALLY [.000 BA] 0-4. Not a rousinf start to the season for our man MATT. An o’fer. At least no SO’s.
Lead-off CF JOSE ‘George’ CONSTANZA [.346 BA] 1-4, 1 BB, 1 SO.
1B MAURO ‘45′ GOMEZ [.154 BA] 2-3, 1 HR , 2 RBI , 1 BB.
2B DIORY HERNANDEZ [.280 BA] 0-3, 1 SO.
C WILKIN CASTILLO [.300 BA] 2-3, 1 SB off CASTILLO .
No BRAVES on rosters as far as i can tell. I’ll double down tomorrow.
1B ERNESTO MEJIA [.273 BA] 0-2 through four. Update tomorrow.
November 4th, 201110:17 pm
Great, so the Phillies get Thome, again.
I don’t know that I’d say he was on PED’s. Looking at his minor stats his OPS was consistently in the mid .700. 2008 he hit more as a utility guy so he wasn’t overly exposed and may have helped benefit the higher OPS. I think 2009 and 2010 may have been on the high side of OPS for him so maybe last year was a correction for his overachieving. But looking at his minor league stats its my opinion that hes probably and upper .700 OPS type hitter.
At least he’s not what he used to be.
November 4th, 201110:27 pm
I’d rather have Pujols over Thome, but we’re not getting either.
November 4th, 201110:29 pm
I rather the Phillies have Thome over Pujols also
November 4th, 201110:33 pm
November 4th, 201110:34 pm
note to self…sitting here watching people ski big WILL NOT help me prepare for my trip.
maybe it will motivate me to get off my duff?
November 4th, 201110:50 pm
This year’s lesson on a formula for going deep in the playoffs:
1) a Chris Carpenter: a gritty Cy Young who can DOMINATE a lineup. Carp outdueled Halladay 1-0 against the Phillies, a feat most can only dream about. History: Schilling, Cone. Candidate: JJ may be the closest the Braves have, if not close.
2) a David Freese: a guy who gets hot at the right time. Think: Nelson Cruz, half of the 2010 SF lineup. Candidate: Who knows … Prado?
3) an Albert Pujols: a hitter who can win at least one game all by himself. Candidate: Uggla?
4) a Jason Motte: Come-what-may with seemingly nothing to lose. Clear-cut, normally reliable guys don’t seem to do as well, unless your name is Rivera. I’d still rather take our clean-cut guys, though.
5) Lance Berkman: just a good, clutch hitter. Candidate: Jones.
6) a rally squirrel. With some discreet efforts, this could be the easiest to acquire.
7) rain at the right time. This we have absolutely no control over.
X-factor(s). How the heck did they do it …
Pretty surprised the Royals didnt jump on the JJ and Prado for Myers and Cain deal… Seems like the Royals would def be the winner of that trade starting out.
November 4th, 201110:57 pm
To even think of trading Prado shows once and for all where the Braves are heading and Wren’s lack of capability to do his job! Give Chipper his walking papers but do not even consider getting rid of Prado. Wren has been and is now even speeding up the process of destroying the Braves.
November 4th, 201111:04 pm
RoyU, when did u get so smart? Wren knows what he’s doing…trade Prado and JJ if it help the Braves win!
November 4th, 201111:19 pm
All the stalemate with KC means is it could be JJ, Prado and a minor league player to get Myers & Cain. Not saying he/they is/are worth it but this is how GMs dance.
I think it makes complete sense to move Prado (has no future other than a human book mark) and JJ (Boras & is
Remember me coming on here talking about that new Amazon job? There’s a catch that got realized today – overtime is every week. 6 to 7 work days, 10 hours a day. That is insane. I really need some recoup time. I need money like anybody else, but not at the risk of my happiness.
Nice place we got here. What don’t we discuss?
November 4th, 201111:21 pm
JJ, Prado and a very good prospect should do it for Myers, Cain and a prospect. Simmons is the heir apparent at SS so maybe Pastor (his hype meter is very high right now). IMO Pastor is a inverse of Hicks – lots of bat, avg arm, mediocre glove.
November 4th, 201111:22 pm
With the Braves being interested in Lorenzo Cain I think that means Wren figures a contract for Bourn is a longshot.
November 4th, 201111:24 pm
RoyU (November 4th, 2011 10:57 pm): “To even think of trading Prado shows once and for all where the Braves are heading and Wren’s lack of capability to do his job! Give Chipper his walking papers but do not even consider getting rid of Prado. Wren has been and is now even speeding up the process of destroying the Braves.”
The following bears repeating, even on the same page:
ohhhYEAH (November 4th, 2011 8:22 pm): “OK,
“For the idiots who keep calling for Chipper to hang up the spikes…..please do yourselves a favor and understand this. In 2011 there were only eight 3B with more hits than Chipper (125), there were only three 3B with more doubles than Chipper (33), there were only six 3B with more home runs (18) and more RBI (72) than Chipper. Chipper also had 51 walks, which was fewer than only 7 other 3B, and was just about the only one on our team with less than 100 strike outs (80). He was also better than all but four 3B with his OBP, SLG, and OPS, and all that on 126 games. So if thats what we have to look forward to next year….then I’m completely comfortable with it, because i promise theres not a better one in the free agent pool, at least not that we could afford. So haters, do yourselves a favor and stop hating.”
November 4th, 201111:31 pm
VaBravesFan, not necessarily. I think if the Braves want Bourn long term it can happen. Money for him should be freed up this time a year from now. Cain has big upside from my understanding and could fit in the middle area of our lineup for years to come and play LF.
November 4th, 201111:34 pm
Random – just another Chipper-hater hater…
November 4th, 201111:37 pm
I thought Cain was more of a speed/leadoff type guy
November 4th, 201111:39 pm
Powder up, I am hearing the legs are growing on Jurrjens, Bethancourt, for Cain,Moustakas…. stay tuned.
Prado may be close to gone too, albeit not with JJ
November 4th, 201111:40 pm
Remember the Braves were trying to get Cain last winter from the Brewers. They like this guy. They see something in him.
November 4th, 201111:42 pm
love those white sweaters on the USC cheerleaders.
Cain has no power. He’s really just another Bourn.
November 4th, 201111:43 pm
Cain/Bourn/Heyward/Moose until Chipper is gone. There is your deal folks, Wil Myers is untouchable,Wren is looking at 2013
Ask the Mets about how wonderful they feel about Beltran. This is not a worthy solution for our offensive needs.
November 4th, 201111:45 pm
Not saying that him not having any power is a bad thing. I wanted him last year. If they can land him I think that its a good move.
November 4th, 201111:46 pm
Shaun (November 4th, 2011 3:42 pm): “Pretty simple. There is a decent chance the Braves will essentially get what will turn out to be 4-6 legit major leaguers for Prado and Jurrjens. Two average major leaguers would probably make up for the production of Prado and two average major leaguers would probably make up for the production of Jurrjens. And four average major leaguers would probably be cheaper, at least over the course of Prado and Jurrjens’s contracts. Trading 2 major league players for 4-6 major league players that will likely be almost as cheap and just as young is usually a good idea.”
I am floored.
I saw your later clarifications, so I won’t bother to point out that the Braves would be lucky to get ONE worthwhile Major Leaguer for both of Jurrjens and Prado together. (Except I just did, didn’t I?)
What is insane about your reasoning is that it fails to take into account the limitation on roster spots. (Not to mention that only nine can play at a time. You can’t have two leftfielders replacing Prado at the same time.)
What does it matter if we get even TEN “average” MLers for the two, if there’s no roster space for them?
Or are you saying that everyone (or even just six players) currently on the Braves’ ML roster is worth replacing with an “average” Major League player?
All I can do is just shake my head at your “logic”.
November 4th, 201111:47 pm
Willingham could provide the production we need but will be looking for a multi year deal and will cost a draft pick. A high price for an oft injured OF.
November 4th, 201111:49 pm
That’s part of the allure of the USC Song Girls- the idea of what is under the sweater without actually showing what is there…
any thoughts on bama vs. lsu?
Q richardson benches 475. unreal numbers for a rb.
November 4th, 201111:50 pm
Honestly, interested in the outcome but not the actual game. Too much hype for me…
Did you read that somewhere?
November 4th, 201111:52 pm
cab, tradition is timeless. always loved the the fact that the trojans have a fight song for both the offense and the defense.
You should have seen him in HS. He was a physical specimen. Trent was a few years younger but his brother and I were friends in HS. You knew he would be something special the moment you met him.
November 4th, 201111:54 pm
Moustakis doesn’t seem all that impressive, especially defensively. Maybe they’d be eyeing him as a Chipper replacement one day soon and hope he can sure up his D over there by then for everyday play. They say he has a quick bat and power potential, but is full of holes. Cain is also an unknown, except potential one day.
November 4th, 201111:56 pm
We actually only have one Fight Song. “Fight On” is what they play all the time. “Conquest” is what we play after a touchdown.
I love tradition too. The Song Girls were not actually allowed to wear anything but the sweaters until about 6-7 years ago, when it occurred to the Powers That Be that having them cheer in long sleeved, heavy sweaters in 100+ degree heat was not the best idea, so now they can wear sleeveless tops when the heat index is above 100 on the field…
November 5th, 201112:00 am
Cain is 25 years old and hasnt done anything at the big league level yet.
What JoeBrave is saying makes tons of sense. Whether or not he is pulling our legs that this trade scenario is growing or not, a trade like that fills the needs of both ATL and KC. Could definitely see that happening.
November 5th, 201112:03 am
well actually i meant there is one tune when they are one defense and another when they score.
VaBravesFan, yeah but the Braves apparantly like Cain enough to be rumored trying to acquire him two offseason’s in a row. Like it or not, they will probably get him if they don’t feel they’re getting ripped off.
November 5th, 201112:05 am
and that still probably is not totally correct. either way as far as uniforms go.
November 5th, 201112:07 am
Maybe not a full season in the ML. But in the time he’s been up he’s been productive.
November 5th, 201112:09 am
Pcola Brave, the dude is a frickin monster and will be the difference in the game.
that and the fact that the mad hatter has not had his one “what the hell was that” moment.
November 5th, 201112:10 am
I understand that, but being 25 and to not have done anything in the bigs yet is a red flag to me. You give good players the opportunity to play. Also being a Outfielder helps in playing time. Just wierd he hasnt recieved a opportunity yet.
November 5th, 201112:16 am
Carroll, I already mentioned this to Mark Bradley, but I’ll discuss it here too.
I dont see hiow the Braves could possibly trade JJ, considering their pitching situation. Lowe, old or not, would have won us some games. Tommmy Hanson’s shoulder is questionable, as you already mentioned Tim Hudson, with as solid as he was in 2011, is old.
I know all the things about JJ being a Boras client, but, considering the Braves pitching siutation for 2012, I wouldnt trade JJ. If he can help us win a wild card next year, why trade him?
It wouldnt surpise me to see FW make some unwise, hair trigger move. If FW trades JJ, I will really have to question FW’s sanity and judgement.
November 5th, 201112:18 am
Didn’t Cain play 60 games in 2010. He hit over. 300 during that time up with the Brewers.
November 5th, 201112:21 am
With Hanson,Hudson,Beachy,Minor,Teheran,Delgado,Medlen,Vizciano as options I think trading Jurrjens makes sense. We would save another 5-6 million and will bring a good return as well. Braves can always add a veteran innings eater for depth on the cheap during the offseason as well.
November 5th, 201112:22 am
as far as jjj goes i think there are some deeper issues involved.
i know for a fact they were less then pleased with his conditioning in 2010 and i wonder if they questioned his sand after all mri’s revealed there was no stuctual damage.
November 5th, 201112:24 am
He has 181 MLB Plate Apperances. 158 PA in 2010 and 23 PA in 2011. Numbers are pretty good but its a very small sample. (302. 343. 745.)
November 5th, 201112:25 am
vintage lame kitten.
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