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cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
9:49 pm
Actually it’s about that time…
nolie
November 5th, 2011
9:50 pm
can’t we trade mac for myers???
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
9:57 pm
I still can’t believe the Braves are the most talked about team in this young offseason. I thought this was going to be as dead a winter as ever. I thought next year was going to be bonkers.
Bama Brave
November 5th, 2011
9:57 pm
Where not getting myers…
Ward
November 5th, 2011
9:59 pm
Mac, wins a Silver Slugger Award,and people still want to trade him. Amazing…….leave it at that! Braves are not going to trade Mac who’s the top 3 catcher in the bigs………
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:00 pm
after the collapse I figgered they would be talked about. I think we will see-have already seen- trade scenarios that are not based on a knowledge of the Braves, their needs and their way of doing business. “in a vacuum” so to speak as someone already said
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:00 pm
Blog Monitor
November 5th, 2011
10:01 pm
Ward, some people have an issue with reality..
Ward
November 5th, 2011
10:02 pm
Blog Monitor- I guess so……
Average Blogger
November 5th, 2011
10:03 pm
Well, I love Prado. It would be a STUPID move to trade him. I love the Braves…but it just screams dumb move!
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:05 pm
some folks have a problem recognizing facetiousness……..
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:07 pm
nolie, that’s true. But ultimately, I think we will see both players dealt. I’d bet there will be enough interest in both. I also think that the reason this is even happening is because Wren and co. identified enough players on the free agent market that they could sign to fill the voids in LF, SS and on the bench.
Ward
November 5th, 2011
10:10 pm
Efrim- I agree……….
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:11 pm
well they seem to be guys that the Braves deem expendable, though I am not so sure about Prado myself
Trey
November 5th, 2011
10:11 pm
WARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT’S UP BRO??????
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:12 pm
Braves are not normally a free agent team, though Wren might change that a bit
Ward
November 5th, 2011
10:12 pm
Trey, excited about the Agrressiveness of Wren……
Soph
November 5th, 2011
10:12 pm
All this ‘Teen talk is rather depressing.
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:12 pm
nolie – know u have been back for a while wanted to say welcome back
oh and hi cab
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:13 pm
As much as I would love to see Beltran happen, I don’t think they’ll invest that much in one player. They’ll sprinkle the 20 million around if they end up trading Jurrjens and Prado, imo. Not sure if that’s worth it, but I don’t see a big time free agent aquisition.
Trey
November 5th, 2011
10:14 pm
Ward, who do you think the Braves should get? What have you been hearing?
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:14 pm
Hey Tiger
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:14 pm
nolie – on prado I’ve said before I expect he is more valuable to someone else as a 2B as he is for us as a LF
did you see my stat question last night? I would be curious to see how much corner OF’s with OPS around .800 are making
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:15 pm
VJ’s finally on his way home
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:15 pm
Hi tiger, I was just asking about you earlier.
Blog Monitor
November 5th, 2011
10:15 pm
you have to believe FW has a plan, not too concerned of they move Prado, moving JJ is a little more risky in the off season..
Ward
November 5th, 2011
10:15 pm
Trey, I was reading on the Fox Sports MSN.,and some blog guy wrote an article saying, maybe the Braves can sign Reyes,and he felt the Braves could sign him for 5 years 80 million,but it’s just his opinion. All kinds of things are being brought up!
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:16 pm
except he also has value as Chipper’s backup tiger
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:16 pm
cab – you know I’m not a football person but I will say this. In the south we got USC/UCLA Penn/Ohio State Michigan shoved down our throats for 20 years. Times have changed now and long term will probably shift again – but really who gives a s#it its not baseball
Ward
November 5th, 2011
10:17 pm
Trey- I have heard 5 different things,and lots of speculations,and thats about it.
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:17 pm
And I think the reason this is coming out now is that Wren wants to get this stuff done so he can focus on free agents or filling the voids once the hot stove season progresses. That’s the way he has seemed to operate in the past. Get these moves done so he has a good idea of what he can exactly spend and then go after his targets to fill LF and SS. Just my opinion.
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:17 pm
I agree tiger. who cares?? Pointy ball sux
Peter
November 5th, 2011
10:19 pm
Damn straight tiger.
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:19 pm
tiger-
It’s not that they are on all the time (well, not completely)- it’s the attitude, the over hype (granted, not entirely their fault), and just the overall…over load of everything sec…
Peter
November 5th, 2011
10:19 pm
And I do like football, but it doesn’t even come close to baseball.
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:19 pm
$5M is a chitload of money for a backup infielder on a mid market payroll team. Just make sure one of our backup infielders can play 3B.
Again I really want to know what it costs us for a corner OF with an .800 ops – if we can’t find one that is = for less money or better for the same I’m with you his versatililty comes into play more (at least in my mind)
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:20 pm
Football has always been my first love. I grew up going to games with my dad…
Blog Monitor
November 5th, 2011
10:21 pm
Cab, come on, it’s 3 to 3 in the third quarter, doesn’t get any more exciting than this..
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:22 pm
Blog Monitor-
It was putting me to sleep
Russell Bell
November 5th, 2011
10:22 pm
well they [JJ, Prado] seem to be guys that the Braves deem expendable, though I am not so sure about Prado myself
Me either. Who plays 3rd base for the ~30-40 games Chipper is likely to miss in 2012? Brooks Conrad?
Soph
November 5th, 2011
10:22 pm
I like football but baseball’s first by a landslide.
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:22 pm
cab – same thing as it was for us in the ’70’s-80’s the hype has always been there just now its not favoring the teams I mentioned. And we typically don’t notice the hype machine unless its focused on something we don’t agree with.
Blog Monitor
November 5th, 2011
10:22 pm
wait, this just in, 6 to 3…
offensive explosion..
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:23 pm
And I am a big fan of defense. My favorite all time NFL player is a safety and 3 of my favorite current players are defensive players…
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:24 pm
nolie – you want to talk about fun tomorrow is the season ticket holder play day!!!
Soph
November 5th, 2011
10:24 pm
Can’t wait till college bouncy ball starts so I can tell nolie polie all about it.
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:24 pm
for the most part that would depend on how much experience they have tiger. If they can pry away a youngster who they are very sure of he would be cheap. The price would be all over the place.
Cuddyer, a name that has been thrown around and a player some have compared to Prado, made 10.5 mil last year
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:25 pm
Soph-
I’m looking forward to next season when GA St. is in the same conference as VJ’s Tribe.
Ward
November 5th, 2011
10:26 pm
Trey, I think Wren, should go after the Royals trade,and keep that moving.Sign Carlos Quentin, Beltran,or Cuddyer. Even though I dont care too much for Sea Bass. I’ll give him another shot,and I would want Wren to bring up Pastornicky.Sign Betemit,or DeRosa.That’s what I would do,but I’m not Wren,and Wren Know’s what’s best.
Trey
November 5th, 2011
10:26 pm
Ward, yep. All speculation. All we can do is wait and be patient.
Peter
November 5th, 2011
10:27 pm
There should be a Florida Fall League. That would be awesome.
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:27 pm
There is a chance the Niners are on tv here on the East Coast at 1pm est. A chance….fingers crossed.
My predicition: Niners 20 – Washington 10
Lee in S GA
November 5th, 2011
10:28 pm
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:20 pm
Football has always been my first love. I grew up going to games with my dad…
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agreed and sorry to be a jerk about college and even pro football…baseball is # 2 in my book also…and I would dare say with most of the nation…except for the hardcore bloggers on this site
daniel buck
November 5th, 2011
10:28 pm
Kehttp://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Atlanta-Braves-may-trade-Jair-Jurrjens-Martin-Prado-need-roster-upgrade-110511n Rosenthal’s take on the trade situation….
jeffrey d
November 5th, 2011
10:28 pm
This just in: The SEC has been awarded the 2012 Stanley Cup!
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:28 pm
nolie – yeah I’m hit or miss here lately without you on KL doesn’t come on much in the offseason.
I’ve also been tied up with work way too much – there is some big stuff coming down the pike and I’m trying to stay ahead of it so my holiday vacation days don’t become filled with conference calls.
Trey
November 5th, 2011
10:29 pm
Ward, from what I read on trade rumors, the Braves aren’t actively pursuing Cuddyer, but for all we know that could be a downlow thing for the Braves.
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:29 pm
Prado 108 OPS+, Cuddyer 111.
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:29 pm
Efrim-
They are FINALLY on here tomorrow!!
Lee-
I will consider forgiving you…
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:30 pm
Cuddyer, a name that has been thrown around and a player some have compared to Prado, made 10.5 mil last year
I really hope not. He makes no sense and isn’t better than Prado given his age or production.
Soph
November 5th, 2011
10:30 pm
cab, it’ll be fun sparring with VJ but I’m expecting a few years of mediocrity. At least there’s UNC.
Ward
November 5th, 2011
10:30 pm
Trey-I’ll be happy who ever Wren get’s,and will wait,and see……
jeffrey d
November 5th, 2011
10:31 pm
Trey-I’ll be happy who ever Wren get’s
What if he gets Betty White to play left?
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:31 pm
Soph-
Probably, but will be fun
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:31 pm
yeah my dad took me to my first football game in death valley when I was 5. At church the next day I could barely talk from all the screaming and cheering man it was great.
My father also didn’t care about baseball except that it was put him to sleep on saturday afternoons (golf was the trick on sunday’s).
I make the 2 previous statments mainly to point out that as much as I love my father I also realize he isn’t perfect. I also know I’m not perfect but I try to learn from others mistakes and help my kids with that knowledge.
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:31 pm
I wish Beltran was okay getting a two year deal. Two years, 25 million. I’d do that in a heartbeat.
james karsens
November 5th, 2011
10:32 pm
We usually buy about 48 tickets per season (we’re 4) and we think that the Braves should keep their key LEADERS players, let’s reward them instead of getting rid of them. As a family we have decided that if the Braves trade Prado we are done with the Braves.
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:32 pm
plus you have to consider that a team with a young cheap 800 hitting OFer will not trade him cheap
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:33 pm
yeah so would I Efrim, even a club option for a third year
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:34 pm
tiger-
I would also watch baseball with my dad, and read the box scores in the paper the next day…
jeffrey d
November 5th, 2011
10:35 pm
What’s “the paper”?
Ward
November 5th, 2011
10:35 pm
jeffrey d-Funny………….All I want is a power hitting LF bat………All have a good one,and have fun tonight,and Talk tomorrow,and peace-out……..
Lee in S GA
November 5th, 2011
10:35 pm
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:29 pm
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:29 pm
Efrim-
They are FINALLY on here tomorrow!!
Lee-
I will consider forgiving you…
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——–hope so…actually like you and Venice Jim’s posts but hell I’m not going to go along w/everyone just to go along with everyone as so many do on here do…Lee…by-the-way I was pulling for U.S.C. to beat Stanford a few weeks back…
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:35 pm
jeffrey d-
You’re a teacher- ask whomever teaches history at your school
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:36 pm
cab, I can’t believe how good Navarro Bowman has been. Although I’m not sure how much is contributed to how good Pat Willis is. Willis is the best ILB on the planet.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 5th, 2011
10:36 pm
Lee tired of seeing him lose his hair
That I’ll agree with…
But the rest? [Heck] to the no…the GM would be out of his mind to even offer BMac and would no longer deserve to be called “Wren”…
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:37 pm
Lee-
It would be boring if everyone got along…
It was last week- and that was one of the best college football games I have ever had the pleasure of watching in person.
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:37 pm
nolie – with you on the cuddyer thing probably at his peak and more expensive – not the move I would think wren makes.
Sopheee
November 5th, 2011
10:37 pm
My family watched everything but my fondest memory is seeing my dad jump so high in the air after the 95 WS win that he hit his head on our ceiling fan.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 5th, 2011
10:38 pm
Sopheee—
That’s FANtastic!
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:38 pm
Efrim-
Pat being that good as made Bowman better, and Bowman is good enough that he can take a lot of pressure off Pat. Combined with Smith & Smith playing so well, is there any doubt as to why they have the best scoring and best rush defense in the league?
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:39 pm
nolie, would you do 3 years, 39 million for Beltran?
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:39 pm
prolly not Efrim
jeffrey d
November 5th, 2011
10:39 pm
Ward – just a little joke
my fondest memory is seeing my dad jump so high in the air after the 95 WS win that he hit his head on our ceiling fan.
haha!!
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:40 pm
cab, I really think they have the best front 7 in the game. Maybe Steelers or Ravens are their equal.
Lee in S GA
November 5th, 2011
10:40 pm
That I’ll agree with…
But the rest? [Heck] to the no…the GM would be out of his mind to even offer BMac and would no longer deserve to be called “Wren”…
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laugh out loud …,you are human about him after all….i was just waiting for your reply on that one…I don’t really want to see him gone but right now I think the Braves just might be seeing what is open to them these days…Chipper is probably the lone exception
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:40 pm
I buy 328 tickets a year (4 tix to all games) and love prado. I also loved murphy, and francouer, and javy, and klesko, and I’ll stop here. If prado is traded it will have zero impact on my renewal of season tickets next year.
Trey
November 5th, 2011
10:40 pm
Ward, as long as they don’t strike out as much as Uggla or pop out as much as Gonzalez I’ll be happy.
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:42 pm
Washington gave up 10 sacks to the Bills last week. I mean, the Niners are going to have a field day if they didn’t sure up those line issues.
Sopheee
November 5th, 2011
10:42 pm
McFann –
Luckily, it wasn’t on and he was so excited he didn’t even notice. Loved those days though – took all those playoff games for granted.
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:43 pm
private plane, 4 season tickets….must be nice to be rich
cabravesfan
November 5th, 2011
10:43 pm
Efrim-
They can shore up that O-Line next week. We need to put the division away as soon as we can…
Efrim
November 5th, 2011
10:44 pm
I think I would, nolie. But it ain’t my money
bbua
November 5th, 2011
10:45 pm
KC has two outfielders (Cain and Myers) that interest the Braves. KC apparently is not interested in trading a Myers, a prospect for JJ a proven major league pitcher. They would prefer to send Cain who had a good year in AAA but hasn’t shown he is capable of being a regular in the majors.
The Braves obviously are not going to trade JJ for Cain. The Braves should offer Todd Redmond a right handed starting pitcher that has been successful in AAA for Cain. The Braves get a 4 th outfielder that may be able to play CF when Bourn leaves. KC gets a starting pitcher for the back end of their rotation.
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:46 pm
just don’t tell Lew Efrim.
Sopheee
November 5th, 2011
10:47 pm
cab’s right, this game is a snoozZzzZefest.
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:48 pm
I doubt they would do that trade. It seems to me that KC has kinda fallen in love with their prospects and the recent ranking of their system
nolie
November 5th, 2011
10:49 pm
who is winning Soph?
TnBrian
November 5th, 2011
10:49 pm
Yes nolie, let’s trade a 5 time All Star who is one of our main leaders and in the prime of his career for a prospect with “potential”. Good grief it’s getting waaaay out of hand around here. I mea …… got me good.
You’re such a di*k nolie.
tiger297
November 5th, 2011
10:49 pm
nolie – wouldn’t say I’m rich but I’m not uncomfortable…remember I sell as many tickets as required to cover my season ticket prices – in good years I make 50-60 games in bad years I only get to 20-30.
what really makes it sound/look bad is most games the 4th seat is for our bags (there are only 3 of us normally)