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DS1
November 1st, 2011
1:11 pm
scoots
Amen. There is normally a reason a guy is a middle reliever………… not good enough to start or be a late innings guy, like you state.
Kris “My Little Pony” Medlen could be a godsend this next year!
And what’s the rush with Bourn? If he has a great year, then we can sign him for what Boras wants for him NOW. No way does Boras give a discount on him. And after his average performance at the plate in Atlanta, let’s not open up the vault just yet.
Patrick
November 1st, 2011
1:14 pm
To whomever said that we need another Vet in the rotation…
I actually would like to see that too but I seriously doubt it will happen for many reasons.
1. No money to spend on the position
and
2. So many young talented arms in the system.
But I really have a bad feelings that Hanson is going to require surgery sooner than later
and I don’t think you can rely on Jurrjens anymore. You don’t know what you’re going to get with him and now his health is a question mark too, not a good sign.
Thankfully Meds is back and do think he’s going to see some time in the rotation next season
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:14 pm
I’d rather have a young(er) rotation that wins than an older one that just collects paychecks and losses…
And yes, I do agree….to many, there are PLENTY of casual baseball fans in the ATL area….and to the casual fan, you need excitement, and excitement comes in the form of stolen bases, extra base hits, and simply put….putting crooked numbers up on that scoreboard offensively….
Attendance is sustained by wins, but its attained by player name recognition AND by having talent that excites the fan base (AND the casual fan)
JMO
Snotboogie
November 1st, 2011
1:15 pm
Is that CS total or CS % ?
There is a rather LARGE difference between the two.
Actually when comparing Mac and Molina it doesnt matter. Molina’s arm is known and so discourages potential base stealers. Mac’s (and the Braves pitchers’) are known and more runners are willing to take a chance on them. Mac has improved a bit and they havent stopped running. In essence, both those numbers can be a little misleading in Mac’s favor.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:15 pm
Scoots-
But if he were head and shoulders better than BMac defensively, why would you move him?!
cabravesfan
November 1st, 2011
1:16 pm
P-Town Brave ©
That is caught stealing total
MLB does a sort of reverse CS% – they do Stolen base % instead- Mac is 78%, Molina is 71% (so, it’s actually the percentage that base runners successfully steal a base, so that one goes to Molina, but not by as much as some here would think)
DS1
November 1st, 2011
1:17 pm
Mac is a pretty good catcher. We see all the warts because we see his every game.
But I was noticing some stuff with Molina during the post season that I was saying to myself: “Self, if that was McCann, the blog would be in an uproar about this or that………”
He’s good, but he ain’t perfect.
cabravesfan
November 1st, 2011
1:18 pm
Snot-
My only reason in posting and comparing Mac & Molina’s stats was to show that Mac is not the horrible defensive catcher some people seem to think he is. Bottom line is, all catcher’s defensive stats rely heavily on other players, mainly the pitcher…
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:18 pm
Snot-
Thats my point though….
If 200 guys ran on BMac and he threw out 60 of them (30%) but only 50 guys ran on Yadi and he threw out 20 of them (40%) the numbers are quite different….
Thats stating that many more guys ran on BMac and while he threw out more guys, the percentages and advantage lies in Yadi in the fact that his rate would be better.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:21 pm
DS1-
3 things I can say for certain Molina does better…
1) His release is lightning quick and thus why many no longer even run on him
2) He throws behind runners at bases and has many pickoffs during the year from it —- best in the game at that!
3) He gets his @$$ down on the ground and blocks balls with his protector —- BMac tries to catch everything which turns into mistakes more times than not…the protector is there for a reason.
Snotboogie
November 1st, 2011
1:22 pm
My only reason in posting and comparing Mac & Molina’s stats was to show that Mac is not the horrible defensive catcher some people seem to think he is.
I know. But I think some of those numbers need a context to them, that’s all.
cabravesfan
November 1st, 2011
1:24 pm
P-Town Brave ©
Molina has 9 fewer wild pitches and 1 fewer passed ball than Mac. And again, you have to factor in the pitcher on those calls.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:27 pm
CA-
I don’t think Carpenter, Jackson, Motte, Salas, or Lohse with their breaking balls are any easier to catch than any guy who pitched for the Braves this year….
You gotta remember….I have a little better context than some….where I live, the two teams I see the most baseball from are the Braves and Cardinals.
nolie
November 1st, 2011
1:27 pm
more times than not? Silly statement, I’m assuming hyperbole
Molina is a better defender, nobody with any insight would deny that;but Mac is not the total spaz that so many here want to portray him as, and he is a better hitter.
Personally i’d take Mac in a New York minute every time, and I am not known for being a homer.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:28 pm
Nolie-
Not saying he is a spaz at all….
But anyone like me who has seen BOTH Cards and Braves games in triple digits over the last 3 years can say there is absolutely NO comparison defensively when it comes to those two guys….
I love BMac….he’s just not Yadi defensively…
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:31 pm
Carlos Beltran just became an option for the OF (again)…
He dropped Scott Boras this morning as his agent.
nolie
November 1st, 2011
1:32 pm
.he’s just not Yadi defensively…P-Tpwn
agreed, never will be. It’s just that there are a number of folks here who think he is just terrible, and that is not so
Soph
November 1st, 2011
1:32 pm
nolieeeee! Glad you’re feeling better. You had us all being nice to each other and getting along. We can go back to normal.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:32 pm
COUNTDOWN TO FREE AGENCY:
1 day 11 hours 27 minutes
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:33 pm
Nolie-
Not even close to terrible…
BTW….read that you were away….what happened?
nolie
November 1st, 2011
1:34 pm
Can Beltran stay healthy? If so he would likely make a decent corner OFer for a few years unless he wants to stay close to what he has been getting paid b4 which we could not afford even with Lowe gone IMO
nolie
November 1st, 2011
1:35 pm
In the hospital for 10 days or so P-T
TnBrian
November 1st, 2011
1:38 pm
How in God’s Name is Freeman not even mentioned as potential GG 1st baseman? The oly possible explanation I can think of is the collapse. Just how I feel about some people and the ignorance. No way in hell is Gaby Sanchez a better 1st baseman than FF. Do these morons even analyze this stuff, or are they picking players on their favorite childhood teams?
I too am worried about our rotation. Will Hudson start to show his age. Health of Hanson and JJ are HUGE question marks and the rest are still unprove kids. Minor and Delgado showed promise, but the league will force them into some adjustments, or else.
TnBrian
November 1st, 2011
1:40 pm
nolie, so nice to see you back. I was worried. The place ain’t the same without ya.
RC
November 1st, 2011
1:43 pm
How in God’s Name is Freeman not even mentioned as potential GG 1st baseman? The oly possible explanation I can think of is the collapse.
Another possible explanation is that he’s a rookie, and most of the voters first question when voting on Gold Gloves is “Who won last year?” I wouldn’t put too much value in them as a measure of anything other than player popularity.
Remember, Nate McLouth won a Gold Glove the year before he came to Atlanta.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 1st, 2011
1:47 pm
P-Town Brave BMac tries to catch everything [pitches in the dirt]
Not true.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:48 pm
Nolie-
Sorry to hear that…I hope everything is ok…
About Beltran, he proved in Sept. that he has much left in the tank and was far from the reason the Giants didn’t get in….
He hit .350 the final 30 games of the season and .323 w/ 7 HR over his 44 games w/ SF (.551 SLG) and he played in 142 games….
I think there really was something to moving him to a corner OF position….and he’d be perfect to slot into the 2,3, or 5 slot for the Braves…
Just gotta question what kind of $$$ he is looking for.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
1:49 pm
McFann-
I can’t remember the last time I saw him legitimately try to get down on his butt and take one off the protector….
DS1
November 1st, 2011
1:54 pm
Jeter won how many gold gloves?
So you’re saying that Mac has a chance………….
DAP
November 1st, 2011
1:54 pm
p-town I can’t remember the last time I saw him legitimately try to get down on his butt and take one off the protector….
because you dont want to remember. by the way, you cant block a pitch while on your butt.
dont worry about him, mcfann. everyone recognizes he has no idea what hes talking about.
Ease
November 1st, 2011
1:57 pm
What protector are we talking about?
Lew
November 1st, 2011
1:59 pm
nolie – Ain’t getting old fun? You doing OK?
wjones
November 1st, 2011
2:00 pm
“Ease
November 1st, 2011
1:57 pm
What protector are we talking about?”
Yes, now it seems that all of that guaranteed money to McCann makes a lot of sense.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 1st, 2011
2:00 pm
P-Town—
Well it has been a while—the season’s be done for over a month now…
He gets down on his knees and shins and takes them off the protector. I’ve got the “Bases Saved” numbers somewhere.
DS1 by the way, you cant block a pitch while on your butt.
Haha! Good point…that does seem like it would be kinda tricky…
dont worry about him, mcfann.
Oh, I ain’t worried about ‘im…
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2011
2:01 pm
I wouldn’t put too much value in them as a measure of anything other than player popularity.
Remember, Nate McLouth won a Gold Glove the year before he came to Atlanta.
Excep McLouth was good prior to Atlanta, and he wasn’t the most popular CF in the league. McLouth’s two years of injury in Atlanta looms larger than his pre-Atlanta career. He was in Atlanta two weeks and then injured his hamstring. After that his speed was gone and his ability to hit for power. More injuries piled up until he ended his Atlanta tenure on DL. The guy tried.
Lew
November 1st, 2011
2:01 pm
Catching balls in the dirt that hit the chest protector aren’t the problem. It’s them that hits Mac at cup level or lower that cause the problems.
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2011
2:02 pm
So that took forever to get in there. I retyped that several times. I’m not sure which words blocked it, but the ones I removed all related to injuries.
Shaun
November 1st, 2011
2:04 pm
No way in hell is Gaby Sanchez a better 1st baseman than FF. Do these morons even analyze this stuff, or are they picking players on their favorite childhood teams?
Yep. All those people who grew up in the 1990’s rooting for the Marlins are the same people nominating players for Gold Gloves….all three of those people.
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2011
2:04 pm
Excep McLouth was good prior to Atlanta, and he wasn’t the most popular CF in the league.
Though I will admit he had a solid season the year he won the GG. And I too am always disappointed the GG tends to be determined by offensive production. Like it’s the runner up to the Silver Slugger award.
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2011
2:05 pm
Payne, 2:04. Well done. Well done.
Shaun
November 1st, 2011
2:05 pm
TennesseePaul, McLouth was never a Gold Glove caliber centerfielder.
A better example of why we shouldn’t pay much attention to Gold Gloves is Rafael Palmeiro winning one basically as a DH.
David O'Brien
November 1st, 2011
2:07 pm
Schultz believes the Braves are not going to make another significant roster move during the off season. However, I agree with your comments that the Braves have to get serious about signing a free agent to left field. — Ken Stallings
I didn’t say they had to “get serious about signing a free agent.” I said they need to upgrade, either in LF and/or a significant upgrade to bench. That can come via trade or free agent, either position. Braves have a lot of good young propspects, other than their top-rated near-untouchables, who could be used in a potential trade.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. Failed)
November 1st, 2011
2:08 pm
Braves have already been busy but I still think the Braves are wanting to sign Jose Reyes.
cricket
November 1st, 2011
2:10 pm
Welcome back nolie, get well soon.
Hope you received flowers sent by IVAN..
Coach (2011 Fredi G. Failed)
November 1st, 2011
2:11 pm
Schultz believes the Braves are not going to make another significant roster move during the off season. However, I agree with your comments that the Braves have to get serious about signing a free agent to left field. — Ken Stallings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
I don’t think many people are in agreement with Jeff Schultz.
cricket
November 1st, 2011
2:12 pm
Recycling is good for earth -
Mac 4th best catcher blocking plate from 08-11 -
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/another-one-bites-the-dust/
DAP
November 1st, 2011
2:12 pm
Schultz believes the Braves are not going to make another significant roster move during the off season
yeah, i dont see how that is possible, since the braves currently do not have a short stop. something has got to happen in that area, one way or the other. starting SS is always significant.
Jimmy
November 1st, 2011
2:13 pm
I stated during the season that Mac wasn’t sliding and blocking the down out pitches – rather swiping his glove at them. That is something all catchers are taught to do.
The BLOG informed me that it was just an isolated incident and that I was focused on one game.
So, I let it go. Those who wish not to see it, won’t see.
But he clearly doesn’t slide behind the plate.
Shaun
November 1st, 2011
2:13 pm
Coach, I actually wouldn’t be shocked if they are in on Reyes, to some degree. But I would be shocked if they can compete with some of the big boys for his services, and I think it would be stupid to go all out and sign him to a long-term, really expensive deal. I don’t want to see the Braves hamstrung into not being able to make possibly more vital upgrades later on.
I mean, worst-case scenario is Pastornicky is the starting shortstop going into next season. And that doesn’t seem like an absolutely awful worst-case scenario. Why not address more pressing needs?
cricket
November 1st, 2011
2:17 pm
Palmeiro hit 47 home runs, just one behind league leader Griffey and he never made an error…
Efrim
November 1st, 2011
2:18 pm
I’d rather sign Carlos Beltran to a three year deal than to sign Josh Willingham or Michael Cuddyer to a three year deal and be stripped of the #21 selection in the 2012 draft. Beltran can’t be offered arbitration, so he is more valuable than the other two because a) he’s a better player, and b) he doesn’t cost anything but money.
And honestly, I could see Willingham getting around three years and 24 million, whereas Beltran gets a maximum of three years and 39 million, imo. Beltran is the smarter get, however I think the Red Sox or Cubs sign him.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. Failed)
November 1st, 2011
2:18 pm
Shaun, short stop and left field are the Braves most pressing needs along with improving the bench. Also, I like Pastornicky but nobody in the organization has endorsed him as the starting SS for 2012.
DAP
November 1st, 2011
2:20 pm
efrim I’d rather sign Carlos Beltran to a three year deal than to sign Josh Willingham or Michael Cuddyer to a three year deal and be stripped of the #21 selection in the 2012 draft.
id rather keep the pick and not sign any of them so that we can be players in the 2013 free agent market, which is much better for outfielders.
a shortstop, and bench help. thats all we need this offseason.
Efrim
November 1st, 2011
2:20 pm
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/offseason-outlook-atlanta-braves.html
RC
November 1st, 2011
2:22 pm
I’d rather sign Carlos Beltran to a three year deal than to sign Josh Willingham or Michael Cuddyer to a three year deal and be stripped of the #21 selection in the 2012 draft. Beltran can’t be offered arbitration, so he is more valuable than the other two because a) he’s a better player, and b) he doesn’t cost anything but money.
I’d argue that given the limited financial resources of the Braves, as well as their recent inclination to lean toward signability in the first round, they might be better off giving up the pick to save money, since a 1st round pick doesn’t seem to be as well used by the Braves as some other organizations.
David O'Brien
November 1st, 2011
2:22 pm
Too many people assume that all these free agents will be offered arbitration. Some won’t be, because they play for teams that can’t afford the salary risk should the player accept arbitration, as Soriano did with Braves a few years ago.
Josh Willingham could possibly be one of those guys. You just never know. Not saying it’s likely, but he or someone else in similar situation could be.
Shaun
November 1st, 2011
2:23 pm
Coach, I agree. Didn’t say Pastornicky is a good option. Just not an awful option. So I don’t think shortstop is all that pressing that they should drastically over-spend there. I’d rather see them go cheap there on Gonzalez or someone like that. I with those who wanted Scuturo but I don’t know if he’s available.
I think leftfield is a more pressing need and loading up on some reasonably priced bullpen arms.
Efrim
November 1st, 2011
2:23 pm
id rather keep the pick and not sign any of them so that we can be players in the 2013 free agent market, which is much better for outfielders.
Just pointing out how much better Beltran is than the other two when considering everything. But l agree with you, I’d like to see the team with tons of financial flexibility next offseason.
Just have to remember that the Yankees, Phillies, Red Sox, Cubs, etc. all have a lot of financial flexibility too.
Ward
November 1st, 2011
2:25 pm
Holy sh*t! nolie is back…….Good to hear from you buddy……
Ward
November 1st, 2011
2:28 pm
I would like Josh Willingham: Saw a game last year in Oakland,and he crushed the ball of his bat.Like Wilson Betemit as bench guy.
DAP
November 1st, 2011
2:29 pm
efrim Just have to remember that the Yankees, Phillies, Red Sox, Cubs, etc. all have a lot of financial flexibility too.
yeah thats very true. but, i give up signing willingham or beltran this offseason, if it means i have a shot at josh hamilton, matt kemp, andre eithier, carlos quentin, bj upton, nick swisher, shane victorino, or delmon young next offseason.
i think a great option for the braves bench would be if cody ross doesnt get offered arbitration. versatile outfielder who hits lefties well would be a solid addition. i also like scott hairston for that role.
Ward
November 1st, 2011
2:30 pm
My favorite out fielders to get are- Carlos Quentin,Josh Willingham,or Cuddyer…….
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 1st, 2011
2:30 pm
Jimmy But he clearly doesn’t slide behind the plate.
Yes, he does slide.
Ease
November 1st, 2011
2:32 pm
and he crushed the ball of his bat
There has to be a joke here somewhere…
cricket
November 1st, 2011
2:34 pm
and he crushed the ball of his bat
There has to be a joke here somewhere…
There were few, I let them go..
Ward
November 1st, 2011
2:36 pm
cricket- Noo Joke……Josh does have some power,and the ball leaves his bat in a hurry when connected…….
Jimmy
November 1st, 2011
2:36 pm
McFann…remember our conversation last season? Remember I mentioned that he is our Piazza?
I won’t argue with you..being a Braves fan, but he does not do it on a consistent basis.
I know he is your man, but come on….
The above is in the spirit of conversation!
Efrim
November 1st, 2011
2:37 pm
I’d argue that given the limited financial resources of the Braves, as well as their recent inclination to lean toward signability in the first round, they might be better off giving up the pick to save money, since a 1st round pick doesn’t seem to be as well used by the Braves as some other organizations.
I just think that’s a strategy that is taking you down a wrong path. I’d rather have a polished college lefty in the org. like Sean Gilmartin, than to not have the pick at all.
Too many people assume that all these free agents will be offered arbitration. Some won’t be, because they play for teams that can’t afford the salary risk should the player accept arbitration, as Soriano did with Braves a few years ago.
Josh Willingham could be one of those guys.
You could be right, but if Beane already knows the below comments made by Willingham’s agent, then I would assume he’d make the smart play and offer him arbitration. He didn’t make THAT much money this past year – 6 million – so it’d make sense to try and get a couple picks for him. Plus, they only have 21.2 million in guaranteed contracts after having a 67 million dollar payroll in 2011.
“My best guess is he will probably sign a three-year deal, and probably not with Oakland,” agent Matt Sosnick told the Contra Costa Times. “I just don’t think that’s the position the A’s are in right now.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/athletics/ci_19235090
Ward
November 1st, 2011
2:37 pm
The game was in Oaklnad,and he hit the ball over LF,and it went a long way. Saw the game from T.V.
Jimmy
November 1st, 2011
2:38 pm
Ward – Good to see you posting in the daylight!!
Nolee – Great to see you back…and in form!
Murph
November 1st, 2011
2:38 pm
Trade Uggla for a LF, move Prado back to 2B, use Uggla’s money to sign Reyes, sign Betemit to play 3B when Chipper goes down.
Done. Oh, no, wait… sign Andruw to be the 4th OF. Now done.
Ward
November 1st, 2011
2:40 pm
I’ll be happy,as long has some one can hit with power,and not strike out so much……..Just want an out fielder.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 1st, 2011
2:41 pm
Jimmy Remember I mentioned that he is our Piazza?
Yes. And I don’t think that’s an accurate statement…
I know he is your man, but come on….
Hey, I already said I don’t think he should win the Gold Glove this year, what more do you want??
Ward
November 1st, 2011
2:41 pm
Jimmy-that way you know I’m not a ghost!
Jimmy
November 1st, 2011
2:42 pm
Murph – 12:55 pm
“Only in his mind is BMac challenging Yadi for a Gold Glove award”
McRib… donuts… Big Mac… candy corn… gold glove… Slim Jim… hot fudge sundae… caught stealing… ding dongs… passed balls… Butterball… stuffing…
LOL….ummmm, Not funny Murph!
Ease
November 1st, 2011
2:42 pm
But how about a Gold Protector?
Snotboogie
November 1st, 2011
2:42 pm
DOB has mentioned 4 different SS names in the pipeline and folks still think the Braves will get in the bidding for Reyes? The same guys who has injury issues, attitude issues and possibly the biggest issue among all – that he’ll need too many years at too much money for our budget. Sure. He’s a possibility.
Ward
November 1st, 2011
2:43 pm
Murph- you can’t trade Uggy…….Not my favorite Brave! Could accept Heyward maybe?
Ease
November 1st, 2011
2:46 pm
Not funny Murph!
Great. No comes the Murph meltdown of clowns and tears…
Jimmy
November 1st, 2011
2:49 pm
McFann – “what more do you want??”
Just state in public that he doesn’t slide over on a consistant basis.
Ok, I quit with this McCann thing. The above sentence sounded too Shuanistic. I frightened myself.
Peace McFann.
Big Nick
November 1st, 2011
2:51 pm
Sign—DeRosa and Bloomquist for the bench.
Non-tender Moylan and the pick him back up on an incentive laden deal that could reach the $2mil he would have gotten in arbitration.
Give Pastornicky a chance to win the job in ST.
Get a 3rd lefty for the pen. FA guys look thin so might have to come through trade.
DONE.
That said, I still believe the Braves sign A-Gon back (at around the same price as last year) which wouldn’t be so bad.
Pieces are in place. Willingham will want too much and same goes for Cuddyer and Beltran.
Quentin is a possibility but would probably cost the braves JJ….hmmm. If that were to happen I see Heyward going down at the start of the year and CQ in RF. To me Quentin is more valuable because he is not signed long term. Just dont see that happening though.
DeRosa, if healthy, could give the Braves a good bat and some versatility. I see plenty of ABs for him with Chipper going down like he does and against LHP in RF and some at 1B.
CF-Bourne
LF-Prado
3B-Chipper
C–McCann
2B-Uggla
1B-Freeman
RF-Heyward platoon
SS-Pastornicky
Efrim
November 1st, 2011
2:51 pm
Andrew Brackman is a free agent. Nice buy low opportunity for a team that has room in their organization for a big arm like his. Terrible strikeout to walk ratios this past year, but he has some ability.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2011
2:54 pm
I frightened myself.
IBKL.*
(*I Blame Keith Law.)
Shaun
November 1st, 2011
2:55 pm
Snotboogie, I wouldn’t have a problem with the Braves getting into the bidding, just to see if he’ll bite. But he’s likely not affordable at what would be reasonable for the Braves, and that’s the biggest problem. If you are in a position to make a deep playoff run, and you really think Reyes is a legit MVP-type player, I think you make a run at him but you don’t go all out to sign him. I don’t think you worry about the shortstops in the system and the future because, as they say, flags fly forever. Only if the shortstops in the system have obvious superstar potential.
But all of this is neither here nor there because Reyes is going to command a ridiculous and unreasonable (for the Braves) contract and the Braves will sign a low-cost veteran for a year or two, like Gonzalez.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 1st, 2011
2:56 pm
Jimmy The above sentence sounded too Shuanistic.
Don’t be so hard on yourself!
Now me, I cann be waaaay too Shaunistic (see my many trillions of posts about how BMac should bat fifth, heh heh!…)…
Peace!
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2011
2:58 pm
McLouth was never a Gold Glove caliber centerfielder.
The year he won, he was pretty good. For CF with 1300 or more innings he had the highest fielding percentage, had the fourth most put outs and converted the most chances. I’m not saying he was historically good. But he wasn’t a bad center fielder. Not as bad as he was after being traded. People respected his work out there for a reason and it wasn’t entirely his bat. He wasn’t even the most productive hitting CF that year. That player, though, also got a GG.
At any rate, my initial point was, too many seem to think what he gave the Braves was what he always was. He was better before he got to the Braves. Better in the field and better at the plate.
Ward
November 1st, 2011
2:58 pm
It would make sense to sign Carlos Quentin,because we have Greg Walker,as hitting coach.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2011
2:59 pm
since a 1st round pick doesn’t seem to be as well used by the Braves as some other organizations.
Oh, the cyncism generated by high-floor, polished lefties is not a pretty sight.
I’d like them to have a chance to get righteous, anyway. Willingham, Cuddyer, and that ilk are not worth losing a first-round pick. Not on this team, as so far projected.
Ward
November 1st, 2011
3:00 pm
Shaun-hate to tell you,but Agon is done,as a Brave. Hello Pastornicky,because the Braves are high on him……
Murph
November 1st, 2011
3:02 pm
Great. No comes the Murph meltdown of clowns and tears…
I’ve been working with a therapist to get beyond my childhood issues… and I’ve come to grips with the fact that I’m not funny.
My therapist has told me to focus on the positive aspects of myself… not to focus on things like my complete lack of a sense of humor. So far I’ve come up with:
1. I can count really high
2. I no longer kick puppies
3. ….
The list is a work in progress, much like myself.
Shaun
November 1st, 2011
3:02 pm
Big Nick, I know DeRosa was once versatile and all, but I want no part of him, unless it’s something like a minor league deal. Over the last two seasons his power is nonexistent. And even when he had a little pop, he was never a great hitter. And I don’t know that he has any defensive value any more. He certainly doesn’t hit nearly enough to play a corner spot or probably even secondbase. And he probably isn’t good enough defensively to get any significant playing time up the middle.
MiaBchBravesFan
November 1st, 2011
3:05 pm
Welcome back, Nolie. Hope the time away finds you now hale, hearty, and very well for the long run.
Bobby's Cox
November 1st, 2011
3:06 pm
Glad D-Lowe is gone, but he was good for the team while here up until the last few months. We all knew at the time we signed him 4 years was too long (like Chipper’s contract), but we needed him to stabilized our rotation and he did. Our pitching was in shambles when Wren took over, and Wren focused on getting the team rich in pitching again. Mission accomplished. Hope D-Lowe does well in Cleveland, though I’m skeptic. They want him for the same reasons we wanted him, and are getting him at a good price.
Someone said something like, that’s why the Mets passed up on him? Yeah, right, buddy. Too bad they signed Oliver Perez for a worse contract who was much less reliable. D-Lowe, though slightly overpaid, was a good fit for what we needed at the time. Looking forward to see the next wave of pitchers here prosper….let’s get our hitting fixed.
Ward
November 1st, 2011
3:06 pm
Shuan-You would rather have Agon instead……
Ward
November 1st, 2011
3:11 pm
Hell,I would take Air-Bud over Agon……..Just so I don’t have to see his weak ass bat.
jeffrey d
November 1st, 2011
3:13 pm
I think Murph’s funny
Soph
November 1st, 2011
3:14 pm
A basketball playing golden retriever at SS would probably fill a few more empty seats.
Murph
November 1st, 2011
3:14 pm
I think Murph’s funny
You’re an enabler…
jeffrey d
November 1st, 2011
3:15 pm
I think Air Bud made baseball movies too though
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2011
3:16 pm
I still don’t get why some are falling all over Willingham….
Just because you put a bunch of spices on a piece of sh!t doesn’t make it taste any better….its still a piece of sh!t….
Basically put, Willingham wouldnt be any better in LF than Prado when you consider both sides of play and he’s not making us a WS contender.