12:10 am November 1, 2011, by David O'Brien
November 2nd, 20119:02 pm
nolie: It’s great to see you back and I hope you are feeling better every day. “Hell On Wheels”, a new Western, starts on AMC this Sunday. Frankly, I was not that impressed with the previews, looked like they were trying too hard, but I’ll sure give it a try.
November 2nd, 20119:04 pm
So I guess the fact that Mac had a higher OBP, SLG, OPS, more RBI, more walks, and more home runs doesn’t mean anything
November 2nd, 20119:05 pm
I was all set to allow you to leave the doghouse now that you are back, but I have been told that it would be cruel to force you out onto the street. So you are stuck there
November 2nd, 20119:07 pm
That 6th game of the series is all the proof that is needed to convince folks that the DH is not needed, and should be abolished.
November 2nd, 20119:24 pm
2 and a half hours until FW can get to work………….
November 2nd, 20119:26 pm
What if nolie wants out, cab?
November 2nd, 20119:27 pm
“But out in the Arizona Fall League, if you tell a scout or an official from another team that you cover the Braves, they’ll tell you that GM Frank Wren has the Braves in an enviable position going forward, with a big-league roster sprinkled with top-tier young talent and a farm system that a one opposing team official said was better-stocked than any other than Kansas City’s.”
I’m looking at the World Series where one of the teams benefitted greatly by our farm system because our management team looks at young talented prospects as bargaining chips for expensive veterans (i.e. Texeira).
Just ask Texas how they enjoyed doing business with us.
Jeebus, some of y’all just don’t get it, do you?
November 2nd, 20119:29 pm
I will have to wait until he is all better, so I can’t question his judgement. So he can’t leave just yet
November 2nd, 20119:39 pm
No. What are you talking about?
Can you please stay and explain, oh bright one. I have my crayons all ready, to take notes.
November 2nd, 20119:48 pm
It’s odd that every time the Braves are successful in shedding payroll, (Javy Vasquez example and this year with Lowe, KK, Nate) they end up not being able to add anyone because they are paying for raises or arb eligible players!
The high price of mediocre players is killing the Braves! When you dump 20 mil in payroll but have to pay that 20 mil to players who choked that you already have committed to….. it’s frustrating.
November 2nd, 20119:50 pm
“league roster sprinkled with top-tier young talent and a farm system that a one opposing team official said was better-stocked than any other than Kansas City’s.”
Jeebus, some of y’all just don’t get it, do you?”
It’s called the “company line spin machine.”
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 2nd, 20119:52 pm
Yay! Congrats to BMac!! Had a fantastic year until he go hurt…
The true fans appreciate the work you put in and what you do for this team. Those who don’t, well, that’s their problem…
November 2nd, 20119:54 pm
Molina is also on a team with Carpenter, Pujols and Berkman who won come back player of the year. Also Freese who won MVP of the NLCS. Molina has always been a great catcher and a tough out. He is NOT a better hitter than Mac. No catcher in baseball is. Year in, year out, Mac is really good. He has fought through eye sight problems and an oblique injury and still has 6 silver slugger awards and a All Star MVP trophy/ 6 time All Star.
He certainly helped the September collapse take place, but everybody knows that wasn’t the real McCann. Not even close. His swig was almost slow motion compared to usual and that had to have been that oblique.
Why am I explaining this? Common sense.
“I was all set to allow you to leave the doghouse now that you are back, but I have been told that it would be cruel to force you out onto the street. So you are stuck there “–cabravesfan
Somehow, that “condition of compassion” reminds one of a certain Nurse Ratched of Cuckoo’s Nest fame. At first it reads well, then the big men in the white coats appear.
November 2nd, 20119:57 pm
McFann O O o Get Well
See McFann; told you we’d be here to help you celebrate following your return from church !
November 2nd, 20119:58 pm
Not a true fan of McCann here. Guess it’s my problem that I can’t get excited about a guy who fades in September every year. His OBP and SLG % is worse at crunch time (September) than any other month of the season. He fades.
It’s a shame. He seems to win the popularity contest among NL catchers with other players in the league. Must be a nice guy.
November 2nd, 20119:59 pm
See you good folks in a while. I’m doing a Moe Berg imitation with a sit down to a late dinner.
November 2nd, 201110:03 pm
Where’s the Icee party supposed be?
November 2nd, 201110:04 pm
See you good folks in a while. I’m doing a Moe Berg imitation with a sit down to a late dinner.
Then you are going to have to tell us what you are eating?
It’s in nolie’s doghouse. Figured we could do a combined Icee/Welcome Back Nolie party
November 2nd, 201110:06 pm
HE DOESN’T FADE IN SEPTEMBER EVERY YEAR, you pompous old windbag!! He was I-N-J-U-R-E-D this year!! What friggin’ part of that cann you not process??
Dear lord in heaven, have mercy…
Yeah, the real folks are celebrating! Have a nice dinner!…
November 2nd, 201110:07 pm
I’m sure the BK on 5Forks would be willing to accommodate us…
November 2nd, 201110:08 pm
Okay, but apparently the hostess is busy fending phantom idiots.
November 2nd, 201110:09 pm
Very good post at 9:54. Thanks!
Not to worry- I spiked her Icee with vodka. She will be super happy in just a bit
November 2nd, 201110:10 pm
HAPPY new year!!…
November 2nd, 201110:14 pm
Dangit, I skeerd ev’ryone away…
November 2nd, 201110:15 pm
HA! It worked! Vodka Icees for everyone! (at least everyone that likes Mac)
November 2nd, 201110:17 pm
Didn’t like this Tweet from Jeff Schultz, in response to someone who asked what the Braves might offer BMac when his contract is up:
Great question. Depends on if he continues late-season fades.
Hey, cork it, Schultz! He was HURT, OK?? Dude, just go ahead and say it— “I know nothing! NOTHING!!”…
Congrats to Heap for his 5th Silver Sluggler
I had a big slice of chocolate cake to celebrate, he probably did too. Hell maybe a whole cake.
November 2nd, 201110:18 pm
Look at all the pretty colors……
November 2nd, 201110:19 pm
I’m still watchin’ you, ya know!…
November 2nd, 201110:20 pm
Celebratory Skittles everywhere.
2 more hours..
November 2nd, 201110:22 pm
Yes! I’ve got some…
November 2nd, 201110:23 pm
Its okay on special occassions
November 2nd, 201110:24 pm
Yeah, true that…
My celebratory non-Schauffeurre peanut butter cups are at work so I’ll have one in honor of Mac tomorrow.
November 2nd, 201110:25 pm
Haha! That made me think of that Andy Griffith where the two old ladies are running the still, but they “only sell the moonshine for ’special occasions’”……
National Potato Week is next week, ain’t it…?
November 2nd, 201110:27 pm
Aw, stink! I’ve got somewhat of a bumpercrop of Halloween candy—Target has OK sales…
Sweeeet…those thing are so delish…
November 2nd, 201110:30 pm
National Potato Week
Ha! Funny, McFann
November 2nd, 201110:34 pm
Derosa is not going to be a BraVe, okaY.
November 2nd, 201110:35 pm
McFann @ 10:17pm: I hate to say it, because I love McCann also, but Schultz has a point. McCann hasn’t hit over .270 in September since 2008. Over his career, it’s his worst-hitting month for batting average, OBP, slugging percentages, Ks.
On the other hand, I guess it’s not totally surprising for a catcher who plays so much during the season to be worn down by September. Plus, Schultz also has to consider this — when you’re talking about catchers, year in and out, McCann is without a doubt the best NL catcher since Piazza.
November 2nd, 201110:36 pm
McCann is still one of the most valuable players on this team. I’m not sure why there is hate for the guy. I think Wren and co. work on an extension for him next year. Like I said, 50 million from 2013-2016 with some sort of a vesting option for 2017.
November 2nd, 201110:37 pm
For any college basketball fans this is a neat graphic regarding strength of schedule from CBS.
November 2nd, 201110:38 pm
It’s the top of the fourth in ARIZONA, and the only BRAVE playing for the SAGURROS has ‘K’d twice in two trips, TERDO.
2B/SS DIORY HERNANDEZ [.298 BA] 0-2, 1 BB.
PH DONEL LINARES [.143 BA] 0-1.
Lead-off CF MATT YOUNG [.268 BA] 0-3.
1B ERNESTO MEJIA [.286 BA] 0-2, 2 SO. Game in the fourth.
November 2nd, 201110:40 pm
Yeah, I mean I understand that…sort of…but I just hate how people are attacking him for this past season when there was such a legitimate reason why his numbers were so down at the end. I know he himself would prolly never admit to it ’cause he’s not a guy that uses excuses like that, but it’s kinda hard to dispute…
I’m sure once burnt will be a lesson learnt…if he ever has another injury like that again, perhaps we (myself, included, of course) won’t rush him back like that.
Plus, Schultz also has to consider this — when you’re talking about catchers, year in and out, McCann is without a doubt the best NL catcher since Piazza.
True that. Can’t just let him slip away…
November 2nd, 201110:41 pm
I’m really proud of McCann for winning his fifth Silver Slugger in six years. Heck, maybe spending less time at the buffet really does wonders for you!!
Just kidding, he’s really not too big. I met Geoff Schwartz of the Carolina Panthers, yesterday. Talk about a big dude, 6′6 and 336 lbs. Now that dude was huge. I only came .up to his shoulder, barely
Efrim I’m not sure why there is hate for the guy.
Little punks that got a hold of their neighbor’s computer…
November 2nd, 201110:42 pm
331 lbs, not much of a difference, though.
November 2nd, 201110:43 pm
McFann, I was like, people like that are the reason I don’t play football. I’d be killed by someone that size.
November 2nd, 201110:44 pm
McCann is still one of the most valuable players on this team. I’m not sure why there is hate for the guy. _ Efrim
Familiarity breeds contempt. If Pujols were a Brave people would come here and trash him for something everyday.
Lee in S GA
DOB, Joe Ely….my favorites are “Run preciosa” and an off-the-wall song called “River Fever”….however, “She never spoke Spanish” is a good choice…..for a underrated performer
November 2nd, 201110:46 pm
Bat, people come on here and bash C. Jones every day.” Oooo, he didn’t bat 300.” Hell, you have people referring to him as “The Dipper”
November 2nd, 201110:47 pm
Yeah, I went out freshman year for the college football team at DT. Two guys outran my time in the forty. Both outweighed me by over 100 pounds. Decided a work scholarship was more my speed. RUDY I wasn’t.
November 2nd, 201110:48 pm
Trey I’d be killed by someone that size.
Yeah, me, too. That 3 TIMES my weight…
Bat M. Familiarity breeds contempt.
“Not without honor except in his native place”…
November 2nd, 201110:52 pm
Nice quote, McFann
November 2nd, 201110:53 pm
richbrave, yeah, I’m no Rudy nor am I a Joe Namath, in fact, I never even attempted football. I am definitely not football material. It’s amazing what those guys can do out there, regardless of their size.
November 2nd, 201110:54 pm
McFann, yeah, I am barely 160 lbs.
November 2nd, 201110:56 pm
rich, do you remember this commercial well?
November 2nd, 201111:04 pm
Creepy dog is staring at me again
November 2nd, 201111:08 pm
Got my wine in hand, my dog snoring nearby, Sons of Anarchy on TV. Happy Wednesday
November 2nd, 201111:19 pm
Congratulations to BMac on the Silver Slugger – very deserved and well earned! Danny had the power at 2nd but his average clearly did him in. Hopefully he can get the award next year.
November 2nd, 201111:22 pm
November 2nd, 201111:26 pm
hi cab…life sounds good
November 2nd, 201111:29 pm
just a minute too late…probably for the best neway
when its sleepy time down south…
November 2nd, 201111:30 pm
You aren’t leaving already are you??
November 2nd, 201111:38 pm
This makes me sad
November 2nd, 201111:39 pm
SOMEONE TALK TO ME
November 2nd, 201111:44 pm
Again with the yelling
November 2nd, 201111:45 pm
November 2nd, 201111:46 pm
It seemed to work
I commend you on your defense of Heap,cab
November 2nd, 201111:47 pm
Not a difficult thing to do
November 3rd, 201112:01 am
No, but still, a fine effort. It blows my mind that some people genuinely think he is a liability
November 3rd, 201112:19 am
I love hot stove season, my second favorite part of the baseball world
Bay Area Steve
November 3rd, 201112:44 am
Trying to catch up on the comments after a week away is awfully hard in the off-season. An in-game, and it’s scroll, scroll, scroll. But, y’all have put on a show the last week. Well done. Best it’s been in some time.
OK, I’m kinda lying. I’m only up to 2:04 pm yesterday:
I don’t know if you guys saw it; I can only hope this post forces even one you to search. Shaun Payne. Shaun frickin’ Payne’s got jokes. 2:04 y’all. Murph better show my boy some love.
Well done, Shaun.
(As an aside, northern Idaho has a lot of white folks. Predominantly white, I’d say. 99.9999999 plus/minus .0000001 percent white, is what I’m sayin’.)
November 3rd, 20111:00 am
If Dale Murphy can be traded to make room for David Justice. You’re not going to like the fact that Mac might be “allowed” to walk at the end of his contract to make room for Bethancourt if they feel at that time that he can provide similar production at a fraction of the cost.
It really doesn’t get much more simple than that. Nothing more than supply and demand really.
Tom Glavine and Tommy Hanson ring any bells? Edgar Renteria and Yunel Escobar? (if you’re looking for a Frank Wren “track record” to lean on for a glimpse).
I don’t think Mac should be traded. That would be silly. Bethancourt is young enough that he’s technically not realy blocked (and might never be).
But I also would be very disappointed if Wren didn’t let Mac’s contract play out, and gave him an early extension on his current deal.
“Familiarity breeds contempt. If Pujols were a Brave people would come here and trash him for something everyday.” Bat
Do you really believe that? I tend to think that failure to produce when all the chips are on the table is what gets people a little miffed. If Pujols did for the Braves down the stretch what he did in September for the Cards (.355/.393/.561/.954 with 5 HR and 20 RBI in 26 games) ??
Not a single person that follows this club would gripe abou that.
Then again, if Mac, Chipper, Uggla, Freeman, Bourn, Prado or Heyward would have done anything remotely close to those numbers in September, Pujols is watching the Braves play in October and his monster September is just another great month of a great career.
D-Lowe is a prime example of this theory. D-Lowe pretty much stinks in 2010, but down the stretch and in the playoffs is pretty much money. All winter many are excited (yet tempered), about him perhaps figuring it out and providing some production in year 3 of his deal.
Nope. Instead he stinks up the Ted (and NL parks in general), and then REALLY stinks it up when they needed him most. Not even his GM could wait to get him out of town.
What have you done for me lately? Unfortunately, the sting of failure lingers all winter.
Mac will be fine. Mac will produce for this team. Mac will continue to be a fan favorite.
But if the time comes that he can be resonably replaced for the league minimum? I sure hope Wren doesn’t get nostalgic. It might sell tickets. Just not the post-season variety.
(that last statement isn’t specific to Mac – simply lumping all aging veterans into that category). I have my favorites just like everybody else. But I’d rather have a “new” favorite that is producing, than cling on to an old favorite that is not.
If somebody thinks that makes me less of a fan of the Atlanta Braves? I think that’s a load of crap.
November 3rd, 20111:12 am
Do you really believe that? I tend to think that failure to produce when all the chips are on the table is what gets people a little miffed.
No major problems with your post (at least what I could stay awake long enough to read), but this comment does not present a realistic picture of many posters on the blog – not necessarily bulk of the regulars and semi-regulars, but there are many who drop in to blast away at anyone not fulfilling their ideals of perfection all the time – I have no doubt that they would have ripped Pujols in the 5 WS games in which he had no hits…
Damn, I’m still on yesterday. Though, for good reason:
Gone Viral is the perfect guy for Efrim. Most of us don’t have the knowledge, many not the passion, but them two is smart. Them two is concise. Them two is articulate. And, them two bring out the best in one another. (Does ‘them two’ read as folksy and approachable, or does it just make jeffrey d want to correct a MFer?)
I don’t know whose side I’m on. I hope GV is right, and am afraid Ef is. Regardless, debate on, boys. ‘Tis awful good readin’…
November 3rd, 20111:16 am
VJ, yeah, as I was typing it I kind of thought the same thing. Even realizing I tend to be a negative nellie, I’d like to think that most of the time I’ve put some thought into my negativity.
I don’t pay much attention to the ones who drop in to lay their eggs and run out the back door. Thus I didn’t feel the need to mention them. I really was speaking more about the “regulars” on here. But should have been more clear.
And that’s not to say that sometimes Albert is “above” being criticized. He just happens to succeed more than most.
November 3rd, 20111:22 am
This is a heck of a baseball story -
November 3rd, 20111:32 am
Does DOB still post in here, or is it all twitter now? — detroitchris
DOB is on vacation, detroitchris. An actual, one-week vacation, unlike the time off during the season that people with typical work schedules call weekends or comp time, unless they’re referring to me, in which case those same people call any day I don’t work during the season a “vacation.” So feel free to say I’m on “another vacation” now, because this time, you’ll actually be correct for once.
That is all. Carry on.
November 3rd, 20111:33 am
Regardless of what think of Mac at times or what I think the Braves should eventually do with him….
There is ZERO debate that he was the correct choice for Silver Slugger this year amongst NL catchers.
While disappearing down the stretch apparently isn’t a problem when it comes to out-statting his NL counterparts. Unfortunately, his team needed him. So Silver Slugger award or not, I’m guessing he’d tell you he’s disppointed in his season like many fans are.
We may hold him to high standards. But that’s because he’s set those standards too high.
I suppose one could say it’s like complaining when Maddux didn’t have an ERA under 2.00 in 1996 after doing just that in 94 and 95. Set the bar that high, and people just might complain when you’re not as great as you’ve been before.
Fair? Probably not.
I don’t blame any one individual for the collapse of this team this year. ANYBODY could have stepped up and stopped the bleeding. Nobody did. They’re all to blame. Except maby Delgado and O’Flaherty. LOL
Everybody else had their hand in blowing the 10.5 game lead. EVERYBODY.
November 3rd, 20111:35 am
Did you watch American Horror Story tonight yet DOB? I’m just getting ready to fire up the DVR. I suckered my wife into watching it too and now she’s hooked. I was gone tonight, so she watched it without me.
Which is fine. I’m not sure I like watching it with her. LOL. It fealt more “dirty” when it was just for me.
November 3rd, 20111:37 am
DOB, I think you tweeted Terdoslavich was moving to third base for 2012. Is that a permanent move? Or is it something they’ll just try with him while also rotating him to first base and possibly the outfield? Thanks — Efrim
They’re playing him at 3B with the thought that he profiles well at that position, and it’s a position where they expect to have a need (obviously a lot sooner than they’ll have one at 1B).
He played 3B most of his life, and only moved to 1B as a primary position last season. In college and first minor league season, he played mostly 3B.
Enjoy your real vacation btw. For reals. You deserve it. I just caught up on work and have about a 4-5 day window before it gets nuts again. I plan on milking every last hour to catch up on TV. We finally just finished last season of House last week. Had about 20 episodes on the DVR all summer and never got to them with all our running around (and me prefering to watch Braves games until my wife went to bed.
Enjoy the time off. You’ll be milking your cell phone tracking down rumors before you know it.
November 3rd, 20111:39 am
Wow. I just used “milking” twice in one post. Strange.
November 3rd, 20111:43 am
What is this, 1992?
November 3rd, 20111:45 am
N8, I just had a vision of you moving into Del Boca Vista, Phase Two. I’m not sayin’ it’s rational, I’m just asyin’ I had a vision…
November 3rd, 20112:14 am
Hello everyone! How’s it going? Guess no news on any thing yet?
November 3rd, 20112:17 am
“Bam! Who does that? I do that.” – TnPaul
Well played, sir. Full size bars all around…
“I may indeed be drunk, sir, but tomorrow I’ll be sober, while you will still be a fool.” – scoots
Jerk. How long have we known each other, and you’re breakin’ this out now?
November 3rd, 20112:18 am
BAS, I have a buddy that still says “for reals” ALL the time. Kind of annoying. Not sure why I typed it. LOL
We talk baseball, other sports, music, movies, BBQ and whatever (except politics or religion)
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