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TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2011
11:28 am
You really think I was naming Hairston Jr. as the big bat to bring in
Eeesh. Went back and reread your post. Apologies. Misunderstood the intent. I see that name and recall the talk about Chris Heisey and the daisy chain results in the mix up.
I would hope Wren focuses first on the corner outfielder then on the back up infielder. If Hairston is still about and fits the payroll at that point, then he might not be bad.
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2011
11:30 am
Wren isn’t going after Willingham
Wren wasn’t going to be able to trade Lowe either. Or be willing to send cash in the trade of Lowe. I was in line with that reasoning. But after Monday a whole new world of possibilities has opened.
Lemke's Knuckler
November 2nd, 2011
11:35 am
It’s amazing how quickly people have turned on Hanson. He was one of the top 5 pitchers in the NL during the first half before the shoulder started screaming at him.
There was an article on FanGraph back in the spring (before he started having shoulder problems) that tracked his release points since 2009. In his first two seasons, he threw from a more 3/4 arm slot, then over the first few months of this season, he had a fairly pronounced change to more over the top. The change in delivery obviously worked, as his K rates went up. But I have two theories. One, you see him back to his pre-2011 arm slot and he’s fine, but his K rate drops a few points. Second, it might just be normal wear and tear for a guy adjusting to a slightly changed delivery. The third theory is he’s going Mark Prior, but I won’t go there.
And just to clarify, I’m not talking about a drastic change in his arm slot. The data at Fangraphs showed a slight change, but the data was fairly clear that the change did occur.
All I’m saying is maybe that’s some hope that this shoulder issue is a temporary bump in the road, and some slight mechanical changes or adjustments might improve things for him.
I still predict he wins 18 next year with a sub-3.00 ERA. Top 5 in Cy Young.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2011
11:35 am
Braves sent OF Wilkin Ramirez outright to Triple-A Gwinnett.
Braves sent RHP Stephen Marek outright to Triple-A Gwinnett.
So, Ramirez, Marek and Boscan are off of the 40 man roster and Redmond has been placed on it. Marek and Wilkin can opt for free agency. What a return on that Teixiera deal……I’d still say that was worse than the Soriano deal. Absolutely no reason to make that trade just because we needed a first baseman for the rest of the 2008 debacle of a season. They could of gotten a first baseman that offseason. Oh well.
richbrave
November 2nd, 2011
11:39 am
Looking at JUAN’s post on BOWMAN, I think all pass through to GWINNETT with the possible exception of MAREK. Now is the time to put STEVE out there unprotected before any real scuttle-butt gets out on his future usefulness. The unknown regarding his injury and his age [28] should get him through. Good move.
I thought BOSCAN might retire after his cup of coffee in ATLANTA this past season. A career BRAVE selected as a FA in 1996, he has been a true soldier even while being quite limited talent-wise.
Lemke's Knuckler
November 2nd, 2011
11:40 am
Efrim,
What’s even worse is that the Braves could have held onto Teixiera through the end of 2009 and gotten compensatory picks as a type A free agent instead of Kotchman and Marek. That’s exactly what the Angels did after the trade, and with those picks, they selected Mike Trout (top prospect in all of baseball) and Tyler Skaggs (who they eventually sent to D-Backs as part of the Dan Haren trade).
You add that, and I think the Teixiera debacle definitely goes down as the worst ever in Braves history.
DAP
November 2nd, 2011
11:40 am
signing willingham this season would prevent us from getting a better LFer for 2013. go with what weve got. get a bench guy who can play all three OF spots, and were good.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2011
11:48 am
Eeesh. Went back and reread your post. Apologies. Misunderstood the intent. I see that name and recall the talk about Chris Heisey and the daisy chain results in the mix up.
No problem. But Chris Heisey is better than you’re giving him credit for, imo.
Also, did you see my post about the difference in salary structures? 3.6ish million as the only contracts to dispute are McCann, Uggla’s and Hudson’s. So we either have 75ish(56.3) prior to arb) million in guarantees and arbitration eligible players or 79ish(59.9 prior to arb) million. And that doesn’t include McCann’s performance based bonuses based on GG’s, All Star app. and Silver Sluggers….
cricket
November 2nd, 2011
11:49 am
Marlins are increasing payroll by 27 million.
will believe it when i see it
Efrim
November 2nd, 2011
11:53 am
signing willingham this season would prevent us from getting a better LFer for 2013.
It’s fair to bring that up and I’d like to think front offices look that far ahead, but maybe Wren and co. might think that they’ll worry about that later and just focus of making the 2012 Braves the best team he can. Just playing Devil’s Advocate there. I mostly agree with what you’re saying.
DAP
November 2nd, 2011
11:58 am
efrim, my opinion is there are at least half a dozen outfielders better than josh willingham available in a year. the only way it makes sense to get get willingham would be if wren thought he had no shot at any of the 6. maybe thats what he decides, but i dont think so.
that said, it wouldnt kill me to have josh willingham on this team. ive always liked him. just as long as i doesnt cost a draft pick.
ncscoots
November 2nd, 2011
11:58 am
exactly what the Angels did after the [Tex] trade, and with those picks, they selected Mike Trout (top prospect in all of baseball)
…a player who was available at the (you guessed it) 7th pick in that draft.
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2011
11:59 am
And that doesn’t include McCann’s performance based bonuses based on GG’s, All Star app. and Silver Sluggers….
I’d imagine they’ve got this figured in as well. I’m figuring after arb figures and such they have $8M-$10M to play with maybe a bit more. The main targets are a stop gap SS (who by nature of the role will not be pricey) and a corner outfielder. The infield bench players will be minor money so they should be able to focus the bulk of that on a corner outfielder.
I’d still say that was worse than the Soriano deal.
Egregiously worse. The Soriano deal comes to mind because it was like they didn’t even want to think about it. And Chavez was what they viewed as draft pick compensation value… fitting considering the new draft philosophy.
But that Teixeira deal was terrible. Many like to point to the acquisition of Teixeira as bad, but it was the dispensing of Teixeira that was bad. The team got nothing for one of the best hitter/fielders in the game.
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2011
12:01 pm
It’s fair to bring that up and I’d like to think front offices look that far ahead, but maybe Wren and co. might think that they’ll worry about that later and just focus of making the 2012 Braves the best team he can
It is fair, but I don’t think it would hamper this team’s ability to make a play for a FA in 2013 if that FA meets their needs. Trades are always an option and I don’t think Willingham is going to bring in a massive deal. He’s solid, but he isn’t a star.
Murph
November 2nd, 2011
12:07 pm
The more I hear it the less I like the idea of a “cheap, stopgap SS”.
Is there anyone available who A) fits the criteria of being cheap and signable for a year or two, and B) gives the team a better chance of winning than Pastornicky?
Cheap and short-term should equal backup in my opinion, not starter.
CB
November 2nd, 2011
12:09 pm
Wow,what a dumb idea that we would consider signing McCann to a long term contract. Obviously the man is on a downward spiral and will be out of baseball in two years. What were we thinking?
Lew
November 2nd, 2011
12:12 pm
Willingham has missed at least 26 games and a total of 165 games the past four years and made $6 mil last year.
Two things – One, he’s not durable and two, he costs more than we can afford. He won’t be a Brave.
T for Texas
November 2nd, 2011
12:19 pm
exactly what the Angels did after the [Tex] trade, and with those picks, they selected Mike Trout (top prospect in all of baseball)
…a player who was available at the (you guessed it) 7th pick in that draft.
The new draft philosophy seems to be to take players that will be major league ready in just a few years based on immediate team needs, instead of taking the best available player. I’m not sure I like that.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2011
12:21 pm
I don’t think there are any real options on the free agent market to fix our LF void long term, and to do it at a reasonable price.
Bernie
November 2nd, 2011
12:27 pm
Sounds like another repeat of 2011 if the Braves don’t do something on offense this off season. from what i’ve read so far doesn’t sound like much is going to happen this winter so should we be very optimistic Mr. Wrenn? I’d sure look at Minor and Beechy before I’d pencil in Hanson and Jurjiens as starters next year. I thought Minor and Beechy was put in a bad spot but they held up pretty well.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2011
12:27 pm
The new draft philosophy seems to be to take players that will be major league ready in just a few years based on immediate team needs, instead of taking the best available player. I’m not sure I like that.
I hate it. Although I will say that they did apparently want Robert Stephenson, as Gone Viral said yesterday. They missed on him, as Cincy took him at #27. That’s all well and good, however I can’t understand why LSU outfielder Mike Mahtook wasn’t taken. Rays scooped him the pick after us.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2011
12:28 pm
Erick Aybar my be a possible SS target via trade. Don’t know what it would cost to bring him to Atlanta but he might be a possible candidate.
T for Texas
November 2nd, 2011
12:28 pm
No love for Prado in LF, AT? Or do you consider him destined for 3B?
Efrim
November 2nd, 2011
12:29 pm
Marlins Top 10. Christian Yelich is a star in the making.
1. Christian Yelich, of
2. Marcell Ozuna, of
3. Jose Fernandez, rhp
4. Matt Dominguez, 3b
5. J.T. Realmuto, c
6. Chad James, lhp
7. Rob Rasmussen, lhp
8. Noah Perio, 2b
9. Scott Cousins, of
10. Adam Conley, lhp
Efrim
November 2nd, 2011
12:31 pm
Excuse me, Mikie Mahtook.
Erick Aybar my be a possible SS target via trade. Don’t know what it would cost to bring him to Atlanta but he might be a possible candidate.
Would love to bring him in, but I’m not sure the cost would be worth it. He’s a free agent after 2012, so it would be a different kind of a stop gap for Pastornicky. He’s a good player, though.
P-Town Brave ©
November 2nd, 2011
12:32 pm
So apparently I am not the only one that has mentioned Rollins as someone the Braves should go hard after….
I am not certain where the experts are getting the dollar figures that we can throw money at Jimmy but they certainly are putting the Braves on blast in needing more offensive catalysts…
I just question how we could wiggle everything to fit that type of salary in there….Im sure its possible, but likely, I am not thinking so….
Would love to have him though because it makes the Braves stronger while making the Phils weaker.
T for Texas
November 2nd, 2011
12:32 pm
Rays scooped him the pick after us.
Which means he will be killing it at the MLB level as soon as the guy ahead of him is ready for 2nd year arb. Wren needs to work on getting a look at the Rays draft board.
Seriously, I don’t understand why more teams don’t spend more money on scouting and front office personnel. Those little dollars can add up to saving big dollars by acquiring good, young, cheap talent. Although it does require an additional investment in sigining bonuses.
CB
November 2nd, 2011
12:32 pm
AT,Aybar would be a good trade candidate if price is right. Only one left before free agent.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2011
12:34 pm
T, I’ve kind of soured to the options available on the free agency market this year and would continue to use Prado in LF next season. At this point, I’d like to see the club sign Oswalt to come in and serve as vet leadership and stability at the top of our rotation. This would also allow us to move someone midseason without having to rely too much on all the young guns.
P-Town Brave ©
November 2nd, 2011
12:35 pm
Efrim-
Would love to have Aybar, but my assumption is that the Angels really covet him and they’d probably try to screw us again like they did for Teixeira…
I think he is a talent, I just cant see the Angels giving him to the Braves for anything less than a high level pitching prospect +
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2011
12:35 pm
CB, yeah that’s kind of what I was thinking.. I’d just hope it would take much to get him here otherwise I’d have to pass but I think he could fit in pretty well.
P-Town Brave ©
November 2nd, 2011
12:36 pm
AT-
Yeah, what out there besides Beltran is marketably better than Prado?
Like I said yesterday, you can put all the spices you want on a piece of sh!t like Willingham, but it doesn’t make it taste any better….its still sh!t when it comes down to it.
T for Texas
November 2nd, 2011
12:37 pm
Yep, AT. I am with you on there being no good LF options on the FA market this year. Oswalts back is a bit of a concern to me though, that and the fact that there isn’t much pitching available on the market this year driving up his price.
P-Town Brave ©
November 2nd, 2011
12:38 pm
Ehh….
Pass for me on Oswalt….i really believe he has hit the backslide of his career.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2011
12:39 pm
P-T, yeah there’s really not much there.. and I’m not ready to weaken our rotation by trading JJ without another solid vet to pick up that slack.. just not ready to turn it completely over to the youngster without giving them some more seasoning. I want to compete this coming season.
abwright
November 2nd, 2011
12:42 pm
I cannot see the Braves trading either Hanson or Jurrjens until after each has shown that his injury is not season/career ending.
If they could trade either one right now, they would get such low return as to make it a very poor decision.
Braves fans need to hope that both come into Spring Training all healed up and pitch well in the first month of the season.
Then, they might have optimal trade value. Of course, if they’re doing well at that point, you wouldn’t trade them, because you’re in the playoff hunt.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2011
12:43 pm
I think Oswalt might come at a pretty managable salary, plus you won’t have to give him more than 1 year. He still made 23 starts last year and is good insurance if Hanson or JJ go down. Not to mention the experience he brings that he could pass off to the young guys coming up.
P-Town Brave ©
November 2nd, 2011
12:43 pm
AT-
I would trade JJ myself as long as we get a decent return…
He’s set to make close to 6M this next year, he’s a Boras guy, and you can’t expect that he will be healthy in September for a playoff run because frankly, he hasn’t been….
The money really bothers me with him though because I don’t feel he has pitched well enough or stayed healthy enough to be worth that figure….
So like I said, if we could get a good enough return, I would be fine w/ replacing him w/ Delgado or Medlen in the rotation.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2011
12:44 pm
I’m not saying I would break the bank on Oswalt but given the fact we probably aren’t going to upgrade our offense much then let’s upgrade our depth in the rotation allowing us to move someone like JJ at midseason.
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2011
12:45 pm
Is there anyone available who A) fits the criteria of being cheap and signable for a year or two, and B) gives the team a better chance of winning than Pastornicky?
You mean, aside from that being the description of a stop gap?
Willingham has missed at least 26 games and a total of 165 games the past four years…
Considering as much his price won’t be as steep as some think. And, the role he is needed in doesn’t require him to play 162 straight games. And lastly, he hits lefties pretty well so would be beneficial in a platoon split, but hits well enough overall to be solid if needed on a more regular basis.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2011
12:46 pm
abwright, for all the reasons you stated above is why I would look into signing Oswalt.
Bat Masterson
November 2nd, 2011
12:52 pm
He’s set to make close to 6M this next year, he’s a Boras guy, and you can’t expect that he will be healthy in September for a playoff run because frankly, he hasn’t been….
So the Braves should trade him to a team that does not care about the end of the season…………. Pirates?
Pcola Brave
November 2nd, 2011
12:56 pm
I like Willingham but a three year contract for him is nerve racking because he’s so injury prone. The more I think about it the more it seems our offensive upgrade will come via trade. I don’t expect JJ to be moved but I’m not ruling it out. As far as guys who are expendable at this point I think he would generate the greater return.
Pcola Brave
November 2nd, 2011
12:58 pm
TenPaul
If I remember correctly Willingham hit LH around a .200 clip this year.
TnBrian
November 2nd, 2011
1:09 pm
If Bethancourt isn’t a perfect trade canidate than I don’t know who is. Look for him to be traded this winter in a package for an OF. Cuddyer, Wilingham, Belltran and guys like this are probably too expensive, so it will be for a younger, cheaper player with pretty big upside.
TnBrian
November 2nd, 2011
1:12 pm
Even though Ethier hits LH, a guy like this might end up in our OF. Something nobody is talking about. I would love to have this guy in our lineup. Prado, Minor, Bethancourt could get it done.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2011
1:16 pm
The only issue with Ethier are his splits… he doesn’t hit lefties well as all and he hits much better at home.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2011
1:16 pm
If Bethancourt isn’t a perfect trade canidate than I don’t know who is. Look for him to be traded this winter in a package for an OF.
Terdoslavich, Spruill, Cunningham, Mycal Jones, J.J. Hoover, Billy Bullock, etc.
I think it would be best if we kept Bethancourt. If he progresses even more, then he’s an even bigger trade chip next offseason. I don’t his value is AS high as some think. Flowers was a closer when he had that big AFL season, imo. I just think he needs quite a bit more seasoning with the bat – like 2-3 minor league seasons.
Pcola Brave
November 2nd, 2011
1:17 pm
TnBrian
I agree with you on Either. Someone not even being discussed right now. I believe he’s a FA next year so I want a window to negotiate an extension before giving up a lot for him.
RC
November 2nd, 2011
1:26 pm
Either is a decent hitter, but he’s also pretty expensive, has only a year left on his contract, and is injury prone.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2011
1:32 pm
SI.com’s Top 50 free agents: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/ben_reiter/11/01/reiter.50.free.agents/index.html?sct=mlb_t12_a1
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2011
1:33 pm
If I remember correctly Willingham hit LH around a .200 clip this year.
He hit everyone poorly this year, which also may reduce his value a tad. But he was hitting in Oakland which is not a hitter friendly park. And even with all that he still slugged them. For his career he has hit .254/.372/.489/.862 against LHP.
MFin04
November 2nd, 2011
1:45 pm
Willingham is our outfield upgrade?!?
Wow. How about we reach a little higher than that.
ncscoots
November 2nd, 2011
1:45 pm
I don’t [Bethancourt's] value is AS high as some think.
What?!? Surely 50 ABs in an AFL season is a better barometer than 500+ ABs in a full minor league season. No? Really?
Snotboogie
November 2nd, 2011
1:46 pm
Looks like T for is back after a good vacation.
Murph
November 2nd, 2011
1:53 pm
If a stopgap gives you less of a chance to win than using a rookie… why use a stopgap at all?
Does… not… compute.
ed
November 2nd, 2011
1:57 pm
when is the actual day that free agent signings can begin?
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2011
2:00 pm
Just because the Hampton contract was accounted for as an average annual payout, doesn’t mean that any other contracts are accounted for in that manner. — RC
True. Basically, they do the accounting however they want to, and usually don’t feel any need to tell us how they’re doing it. Some are amortized, spreading contract evenly over length of deal. Others are backloaded, if a big deal fits better that way when payroll might be tight in the first years of a deal but the team anticipates more payroll room in latter years of the deal.
MFin04
November 2nd, 2011
2:01 pm
“If a stopgap gives you less of a chance to win than using a rookie… why use a stopgap at all?”
I have wondered that. Especially at SS. But perhaps they feel like at AA or AAA the player can continue to develop his skills without the pressure?
Efrim
November 2nd, 2011
2:04 pm
ed, 12:00am EST tomorrow.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2011
2:04 pm
Agreed on the walking dead DOB, it’s boring and moving way too slow.
At least they had plans in the first season. Now it’s the group splitting up and searching for that little girl that’s dragged on for 4 episodes now. Lame — Patrick
That’s the thing, finding the girl or having surgery for the little boy, these are — at the risk of sounding callous — just not big enough storylines to carry a show. And for the past couple of episodes, there wasn’t a whole lot else going on. Just not the least bit riveting the way most of the first season was. But at least the last 5 minutes of Sunday’s episode provided some hope for things to pick up soon.
I’ll give it at least another week. But if it doesn’t get any better…
Efrim
November 2nd, 2011
2:08 pm
DOB, I think you tweeted Terdoslavich was moving to third base for 2012. Is that a permanent move? Or is it something they’ll just try with him while also rotating him to first base and possibly the outfield? Thanks!
Carroll Rogers
November 2nd, 2011
2:16 pm
Silver Sluggers to be announced on MLB Network at 6 p.m…..and after last night waiting 45 minutes for a bad football game to end before the Gold Glove awards show on ESPN2, I’m over the TV thing for these award announcements…..
Brian McCann could bring home his fifth Silver Slugger in six years, despite a rough September. He still hit .270 with 24 homers and 71 RBIs. He had 19 double ….Arizona’s Miguel Montero hit .282 with 18 homers, 86 RBIs and 36 doubles, and Yadier Molina hit .305 with 32 doubles but only 14 homers and 65 RBIs.
So does Dan Uggla win his second Silver Slugger in a row with a .233 batting average? Those 36 homers stand out. So do 82 RBIs. …And Chase Utley had a down year by his standards….Brandon Phillips hit .300 with 18 homers and 82 RBIs.
Anyway, stay tuned. At least it won’t be 11 o’clock tonight before we find out.
RC
November 2nd, 2011
2:17 pm
Efrim,
My understanding of the Terdoslavich to 3b move was that the Braves want him to try it out, to see if he can handle it defensively. However, many scouts see him as unable to stick at the position. If he can stay there, then there is obviously more value in a power hitting 3b than there is in a power hitting LF.
DS1
November 2nd, 2011
2:18 pm
Murph and MFin04
What makes you guys think that Pastornicky is ready for the big show? A hunch?
Guys, let’s trust the Braves org to decide on him, ok.
Murph
November 2nd, 2011
2:25 pm
DS1, I believe it was a quote from Wren himself that makes me believe the Braves are seriously considering Pastornicky for the starting SS job. It’s neither a hunch nor a peanut pulled from my arse.
I just don’t see much value in signing someone for $2-3mil a year that isn’t going to help the team win as much as the rookie could.
Murph
November 2nd, 2011
2:26 pm
Other than as a backup, of course.
DS1
November 2nd, 2011
2:28 pm
if that’s true, then I agree Murph.
RC
November 2nd, 2011
2:30 pm
I just don’t see much value in signing someone for $2-3mil a year that isn’t going to help the team win as much as the rookie could.
While I agree with your basic premise, I DO see value in spending $2-3mil a year for a guy that can compete with Pastornicky for the job, may the best player win. As long as that guy is willing to be a backup to Pastor if he doesn’t win the job, then $3 million is not very much to pay for a pretty good insurance plan at the most important defensive position on the field.
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
2:31 pm
Hello everyone! We sign Willingham,or Cuddyer,or Quentin,and 2013 we focus on a big time third baseman.
RC
November 2nd, 2011
2:31 pm
Dang Murph, didn’t see your follow up until I’d already posted.
raleighbravefan
November 2nd, 2011
2:33 pm
Murph – What do you base “someone for $2-3 mil a year that isn’t going to help the team as much as the rookie could” on? Seems to me that you are making assumptions, with very little actual knowledge of who the “stop-gap”would be, what he would offer, what he would cost, and what is best for the “rookie” (Pastor or otherwise) as far as rushing him vs allowing him to develope more.
As DS1 said, I trust the Braves organization to make that call. Oh, remember Joey Devine? It’s often not the right decision to “throw the rookie out there and see what he can do.
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
2:34 pm
Get the out field solved this year,and third base in 2013.
MFin04
November 2nd, 2011
2:39 pm
“Guys, let’s trust the Braves org to decide on him, ok.”
Never said to bring him up in the first place. So might not want to throw names around.
Second of all, if the next best option is overpaying A-Gon, you mine as well bring the kid up and spend your money on a outfielder. Surely he can have a .270 on base percentage, and steal some bases.
Venice Jim
November 2nd, 2011
2:40 pm
Mike Quade officially out in Chicago…
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
2:43 pm
My gut tells me it’s going to be one of theose three out fielders. Cuddyer, Willingham,or Quentin,and I could see Quentin united with Walker……
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
2:43 pm
meant to say those.
Murph
November 2nd, 2011
2:44 pm
raleigh, I base it off of the players available, their current salaries, past performance, what my astrologer said, the phase of the moon, and the belief that, in this great country of ours, I have the right to guess and prognosticate as much as you or anyone else.
I do remember Joey Devine. He was a pitcher who logged a grand total of 26 IP before being put into a situation that maybe one in a million people could have succeeded.
Pastornicky has played over 400 games in the minors, so I fail to see how the two are comparable. Perhaps we should compare Pastornicky to Freeman, who played 424 games in the minors… given that they’ve played a similar number of games in the minors and are both position players rather than relief pitchers, that would probably be a more valid comparison.
ATL For Life
November 2nd, 2011
2:44 pm
Quentin is not a free agent Ward. Still a possibility to get in a trade with White Sox though.
STRETCH
November 2nd, 2011
2:44 pm
I hoping its Quentin. He is a switch-hitter right?
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
2:46 pm
My gut also tells me,that that DeRosa will be a Brave too.
mikemc
November 2nd, 2011
2:46 pm
I suppose Mclouth will pull a Melky imitation and knock out 200 hits for somebody next year. Braves compensation? Nada.
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
2:47 pm
Quentin is going to be there soon on the list. There have been reports…..
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
2:48 pm
I just think Quentin makes more sense to me…..Now that the Braves got Walker as hitting coach, I could be wrong?
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 2nd, 2011
2:50 pm
DOB and after last night waiting 45 minutes for a bad football game to end before the Gold Glove awards show on ESPN2, I’m over the TV thing for these award announcements…..
Me, too! Got me to bed too late…Should be up past midnight during the off-season unless it Christmas Eve!…
It’ll be really int’resting to see if BMac wins…these last two years have been as “intense” as the Silver Slugger cann get, I would expect. Think there’s slightly more competition this year, though…
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
2:50 pm
DeRosa makes more sense too….
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 2nd, 2011
2:51 pm
Sorry, that was Ms. Rogers!
Anyway, stay tuned. At least it won’t be 11 o’clock tonight before we find out.
Might be for me!…
Trade McCann
November 2nd, 2011
2:54 pm
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McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 2nd, 2011
2:55 pm
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Kinda glad you didn’t, actually…
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
2:56 pm
Here’s the reason why I think? Last year before Trade Deadline,Wren was trying to get Quentin,and almost got him. I think Quentin will be on the list first.
Ease
November 2nd, 2011
2:57 pm
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That is probably the end to that discussion…
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
3:00 pm
McFann O O: I think you silenced him…..
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
November 2nd, 2011
3:02 pm
Ward—
I have that ability…
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
3:03 pm
Can’t wait to hear what Wren will do?Excited…………
raleighbravefan
November 2nd, 2011
3:05 pm
Murph – Some valid points there, and you certainly have the right to speculate all you wish…after all, that’s really the purpose of this forum, is it not. And I was not meaning to jump on you. I know you are not Shaun.
My point was that all players develope differently, and at their own rate. Some benefit from more coaching and experience at the lower, less pressure level. Are some ready to step in, and do some learning on the job? Sure. FF is a good example.
I was just saying that 1) there may be a “stop-gap” that would easily fit the budget, and that WOULD give us a chance to win (maybe greater than a rookie who perhaps needs more seasoning) and 2) I trust the organization to make that call. They will not always be right, of course, but are in the best position to decide.
Don’t sic your 3 year old on me, please.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2011
3:06 pm
No thanks to Quentin, too much money, way too injury prone and his production isn’t exactly outstanding.
raleighbravefan
November 2nd, 2011
3:09 pm
Ward – I don’t want to know too much about your gut, but it would surprise me if DeRosa is a Brave next year. But then, what do I and my (chronically faulty) gut know?
cricket
November 2nd, 2011
3:09 pm
just think Quentin makes more sense to me…..Now that the Braves got Walker as hitting coach
Aah..only the 2nd best player-coach(manager) combo after Pujols-TLR
MFin04
November 2nd, 2011
3:10 pm
“I trust the organization to make that call. They will not always be right, of course, but are in the best position to decide.”
This view pretty much eliminates the need for a blog to discuss such things. Of course we all trust the organization to make the best decision. But that doesn’t mean we won’t discuss/debate the clubs options.
I like the scenario in which we have a cheap SS with speed and long term potential starting for us next year and money available to pursue a bat like a Lance Berkman, Carlos Quentin or Carlos Beltran.
Ward
November 2nd, 2011
3:10 pm
Quentin will be 30 years old,and that’s young to me……..