6:49 pm October 24, 2011, by David O'Brien
October 31st, 201111:39 am
what would it matter if your LFer hits 14 HR and your 2B 35, or vice versa?
Well, in the spirit of modern times wealth envy, I’d like both positions to hit 30+ HR.
October 31st, 201111:41 am
Not to mention that I can already hear the constant stream of Shaunian posts telling us that Fredi isn’t making the best use of his outfield having Andruw taking plate appearances from Heyward.
Lew – I agree with you…what difference does it make where the production comes from, as long as it comes? And, I think whatever they do includes the fact that Prado will be the regular 3B when Chipper retires.
October 31st, 201111:43 am
Ten Paul – Right. Be glad you have the one second baseman that is capable of 30 plus HR and don’t be greedy. JUst not that many 30 HR hitters out there, much less available at what the Braves might have to spend.
October 31st, 201111:44 am
Uggla doesn’t really bring that much outside of his power… and he’s about as streaky as they come. I’d hate to depend on him to carry the team score all season. I think we still need someone that’s a little more consistent throughout the season as a whole to help drive our offense.
October 31st, 201111:45 am
cabravesfan & Venice Jim,
HAPPY 2ND ANNIVERSARY!!! (happy Halloween to everyone else)
I took the liberty of linking a photo from that memorable first day. It was taken shortly after VJ met Nala, and she was informed that he was moving in.
I’m sure this will bring back fond memories. Enjoy it!
October 31st, 201111:46 am
Lew – Well, you need to understand that under any and all circumstances, Heyward is and always will be our best option to win. Have you learned nothing from Shaun’s endless dissertations? And of course, he should always bat 2nd…or was that Chipper?
October 31st, 201111:48 am
AT – I agree about offensive production, and the need for it…However, Uggla was brought in specifically to provide power, and we got pretty much what we expected…It just mostly came in the second half.
McCann’s down year will give the Braves pause for thought. Would not be surprised to see the Braves let McCann’s contract run its course especially if Bethancourt contiues to progess. He appears to be defensively ahead of McCann and offensively capable of being as good. The next two seasons should provide and answer on both careers.
October 31st, 201111:49 am
Tom,now That was funny.
October 31st, 201111:50 am
Baseball America’s Top 10 prospects list is up: http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2012/2612549.html
1. Julio Teheran, rhp
2. Arodys Vizcaino, rhp
3. Randall Delgado, rhp
4. Andrelton Simmons, ss
5. Sean Gilmartin, lhp
6. Edward Salcedo, ss/3b
7. Tyler Pastornicky, ss
8. Zeke Spruill, rhp
9. Christian Bethancourt, c
10. Brandon Drury, 3b
I’ll post the profiles in a sec…
Tom – Are cab and VJ married?
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 201111:51 am
It wasn’t a down year!! It was a down month-and-half!! Sheesh!…
Love the photo- it does bring back memories. Nala & VJ are good friends now…
The Braves have promoted an impressive group of prospects to Atlanta during the past two seasons, resulting in a subtle youth movement that came together earlier than expected. Jason Heyward and Jonny Venters made significant impacts while making their big league debuts in 2010—Heyward won Baseball America’s Rookie of the Year Award—before Brandon Beachy, Freddie Freeman and Craig Kimbrel were integral parts of an 89-win season in 2011.
Despite the a 9-18 freefall in September that turned what appeared to be a certain wild-card berth into a near miss, the Braves have enough young talent to remain optimistic about the future. In addition to Beachy, Freeman and Kimbrel, Atlanta also received contributions from Randall Delgado and Mike Minor. Top prospects Julio Teheran and Arodys Vizcaino made cameos in the majors, and unheralded farmhands such as Jose Constanza, Cristhian Martinez and Anthony Varvaro also chipped in. Most of them will figure prominently in the club’s plans for 2012.
Player development always has been a priority for the Braves and helped bolster the big league club at the trading deadline. GM Frank Wren acquired Michael Bourn, who filled holes in center field and atop the lineup, from the Astros in exchange for former top prospect Jordan Schafer and pitchers Juan Abreu, Paul Clemens and Brett Oberholtzer. Wren was adamant about not trading any of his six best prospects and emerged from the process with those pieces intact.
Down on the farm, the Braves provided an example of how development and winning don’t go hand in hand. Atlanta’s six farm clubs combined for a .469 winning percentage—27th among 30 organizations. Rookie-level Danville was the only affiliate to reach postseason play.
In the meantime, individual accomplishments were plentiful. In between making his major league debut and spending September in Atlanta, Teheran ranked second in the minors with 15 victories and was the Triple-A International League’s pitcher and rookie of the year.
First baseman Joey Terdoslavich’s 52 doubles broke a high Class A Carolina League record that had stood for 65 seasons. Shortstop Andrelton Simmons won the CL batting title at .311, while catcher Evan Gattis did the same in the low Class A South Atlantic League with a .322 mark. J.R. Graham, a fourth-round pick in June, led the Rookie-level Appalachian League with a 1.72 ERA.
In scouting director Tony DeMacio’s two years on the job, Atlanta has shifted its draft philosophy. The Braves used to focus on younger players and mined talent-rich Georgia as well as any club protected its borders. Now they concentrate primarily on college players who might have lower ceilings but cost less and will move faster through the minors.
Atlanta has spent just $7.6 million on DeMacio’s two drafts, which ranks ahead of only the White Sox in bonus spending over the last two years. Those drafts have yielded Simmons, the system’s best position prospect, and 2011 first-rounder Sean Gilmartin, its best lefthander. The Braves also remain active on the international front but aren’t in the market for the big-bucks prospects like they were when they signed Teheran for $850,000 in 2007.
Farm director Kurt Kemp resigned on Sept. 1, and Atlanta decided to replace him from within. Assistant GM Bruce Manno will now oversee player development and Kemp’s former assistant, Ronnie Richardson, was promoted to director of minor league operations.
No, we are not married. But we’ve been together for 2 years now
October 31st, 201111:52 am
Yes, Happy Anniversary!
raleighbravefan, yeah that’s why I would like to see just one more driver on offense. I do appreciate the power source Uggla provides but I worry about those 4 or so months when Uggla isn’t carrying the team… that’s a lot games to roll the dice on and I think had we had that one more driver last season, things would have ended differently.
Efrim – Simmons ahead of Pastornaicky? Wow.
October 31st, 201111:53 am
October 31st, 201111:56 am
AT – Everyone would agree we didn’t have enough offense this past year (Wren included, as he has said). It will be interesting what we can do about it with the current restrains. More wiggle room in 2013. Of course, as the official blog optomist, I continue to believe that everyone that struggled in 2011 will likely bounce back. Of course I probably can’t support that view with metrics.
CB – Thanks
raleighbravefan – No
cabravesfan – You’re welcome
October 31st, 201111:59 am
1. Julio Teheran, RHP Born: Jan 27, 1991 B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-2. Wt.: 175
Signed: Columbia, 2007. Signed by: Miguel Teheran/Carlos Garcia.
Background: No teenage pitcher over the past two decades has sped through the Braves system faster than Teheran. He signed as a 16-year-old out of Colombia in 2007 for $850,000, the largest bonus for an international amateur pitcher that year. The Yankees actually offered him more money, but Atlanta had an edge in that Teheran’s cousin Miguel was one of the Braves scouts who signed him. Teheran battled shoulder tendinitis during his 2008 pro debut but hasn’t slowed down since. He ranked as the No. 1 prospect in the Rookie-level Appalachian League in 2009 and again in the high Class A Carolina League the following year. That success notwithstanding, Teheran put together his best pro season in 2011. He made a pair of emergency starts in Atlanta in mid-May before returning for three appearances in September. In between, he led the Triple-A International League with 15 wins while ranking second in ERA (2.55) and opponent average (.232) and fourth in WHIP (1.18). Ranked as the No. 2 prospect in the IL behind Rays lefthander Matt Moore, Teheran was named the loop’s pitcher and rookie of the year.
Scouting Report: With an electric arm, excellent instincts and maturity beyond his years, Teheran makes pitching look easy. He mixes four pitches to keep hitters off-balance and does a good job of getting ahead in the count. A lanky hurler who throws on an impressive downward plane, Teheran works low in the zone and also is capable of getting batters to chase high fastballs. His heater sits at 93-95 mph and touches 97. Teheran commands the pitch to both sides of the plate and isn’t afraid to pitch inside. Teheran’s changeup is nearly as good as his fastball, featuring outstanding depth and fade. He seems to know to throw his changeup when the batter least expects it. Teheran throws two breaking balls—a curveball in the low 80s with late bite, and a slider he uses less frequently—and developing a consistently reliable one is his main need at this point. Otherwise, he just needs to refine a few things, such as his fastball command and his pickoff move. He did not locate his fastball as well as usual during his time in Atlanta, giving up four homers in 20 innings after surrendering just 20 in 384 frames in the minor leagues. The Braves have ironed out his delivery and will continue to monitor his mechanics in order to minimize the violence associated with generating such tremendous power. The organization’s pitching coaches rave about Teheran’s work ethic, his desire to improve and willingness to accept constructive criticism.
The Future: Teheran has the ability to become a No. 1 starter. He’ll need to add some strength and become a little sharper with all of his pitches in order to attain that status, but the goal is well within his reach. While Atlanta has plenty of starting pitching, General Manager Frank Wren said at the end of the 2011 regular season that it was time to give an opportunity to some of the young starters in the system. The Braves will give Teheran a long look during spring training, though he’ll be just 21 years old and could get some more Triple-A experience to open the season.
Simmons above Pastornicky, and Vizcaino over Delgado? Really?
Well… then package Simmons and Vizcaino together in a deal to get a top-flight OF bat. Team is still in really good shape and someone will feel like they got a steal.
October 31st, 201112:00 pm
Braves pick up Hinske.
October 31st, 201112:01 pm
2. Arodys Vizcaino, RHP Born: Nov 13, 1990 B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-0. Wt.: 190
Signed: Dominican Republic, 2007. Signed by: Alfredo Dominguez (Yankees)
Background: Acquired from the Yankees in the December 2009 deal that sent Javier Vazquez to New York, Vizcaino partially tore an elbow ligament in his first season in the Braves system but put that behind him in 2011. He appeared in the Futures Game while rising from high Class A Lynchburg to Atlanta, moving from the rotation to the bullpen when he got to Triple-A Gwinnett.
Scouting Report: Vizcaino’s fastball sits at 93-95 mph and touches 97. He also has sharp-breaking curveball that’s a plus pitch but he tends to fall in love with it too much. He made impressive strides with his changeup in 2011 to give him three solid offerings. He does an excellent job of challenging hitters when he’s behind in the count but needs to improve his fastball command in order to stay ahead.
The Future: Given how he responded to relieving, plus the depth of starters in Atlanta, Vizcaino could remain in the bullpen. However, a potential No. 2 or 3 starter is a prized commodity. Either way, he’ll take a prominent role with the Braves as he gains
3. Randall Delgado, RHP Born: Feb 09, 1990 B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-3. Wt.: 200
Signed: Panama, 2006. Signed by: Luis Ortiz.
Background: Delgado was an unsung hero in Atlanta’s unsuccessful playoff drive. After making a pair of emergency starts early in the year, he allowed a total of seven earned runs in five September starts. Unheralded when he signed at age 16 out of Panama, he has progressed faster than expected because his maturity and coachability allow him to make quick adjustments.
Scouting Report: Delgado maintain a 92-94 mph fastball but struggles at times to command the pitch. His best offering is a plus curveball with sharp downward bite, and he also has a solid changeup. He has a smooth, quick delivery and does a good job of using the same arm speed with all of his pitches. Delgado tends to lose some deception when his arm action gets long. Despite his strong frame, he doesn’t have an abundance of athleticism and doesn’t handle the bat well, particularly in terms of bunting.
The Future: The Braves believe Delgado is ready to join the back of their rotation to open the 2012 season, though spending some more time in Triple-A to hone his fastball command could be beneficial as well. He profiles as an eventual No. 3 starter with a ceiling of a No. 2.
October 31st, 201112:03 pm
Simmons above Pastornicky, and Vizcaino over Delgado? Really?
I’d agree with both of those, from the standpoint of pure ceiling. Especially Vizcaino.
October 31st, 201112:04 pm
Braves picked up Hinske’s option for 2012.
October 31st, 201112:05 pm
Until someone comes and plays big league ball and wins 5 or 6 silver slugger awards and has 5 straight All Star appearances how in sam-hill can you say someone in minor leagues “appears” just as good offensively? Give me a break.
“Of course, as the official blog optomist, I continue to believe that everyone that struggled in 2011 will likely bounce back. Of course I probably can’t support that view with metrics.”
Even if you could support it with metrics, it doesn’t always work in your favor… I remember thinking that an outfield of Prado, Heyward and an improved Mclouth was going to be pretty stout.. boy was I wrong. I just hope we’re aggressive this year round…either through upgrades on the offensive side or defensive side.
October 31st, 201112:06 pm
4. Andrelton Simmons, SS Born: Sep 04, 1989 B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-2. Wt.: 170
Drafted: Western Oklahoma State JC, 2010 (2nd round). Signed by: Gerald Turner.
Background: Western Oklahoma State JC head coach Kurt Russell discovered Simmons in Curacao, and several clubs were interested in him as a pitcher after seeing his fastball hit 98 mph in his lone juco season. Atlanta granted his wish to play shortstop, however, and he responded by winning the Carolina League batting title (.311) in 2011. Managers there rated him as the circuit’s top defensive shortstop, best infield arm and most exciting player.
Scouting Report: Simmons is a premier defender with a cannon for an arm and soft, quick hands. He covers lots of real estate with his quickness, ability to charge the ball and feel for the position. He committed careless errors by trying to make every play early in 2011 but improved in that regard. An aggressive hitter, Simmons knows the strike zone but doesn’t walk much. He has bat speed and can turn on fastballs, but he won’t have more than gap power. An average runner, he needs to improve his reads and jumps after getting thrown out 18 times in 44 basestealing attempts.
The Future: Simmons will open 2012 in Double-A Mississippi, and more than few observers believe he already can play defense at a major league level. Tyler Pastornicky may get the first crack at the Braves’ shortstop job, but Simmons is their shortstop of the future.
5. Sean Gilmartin, LHP Born: May 08, 1990 B-T: L-L Ht.: 6-2. Wt.: 195
Drafted: Florida State, 2011 (1st round). Signed by: Hugh Buchanan.
Background: The Braves took Gilmartin out of Florida State with the 28th overall pick in the 2011 draft, marking the second time in three years that they had taken an advanced college lefthander in the first round. He has drawn comparisons to Mike Minor, who was taken seventh overall by Atlanta in 2009. Signed for $1.134 million, Gilmartin had no problem handling low Class A hitters in his brief pro debut.
Scouting Report: Gilmartin has a clean arm action and above-average athleticism. A two-way player at Florida State, he throws an 88-91 mph fastball with good life and a solid slider. His best pitch is a plus changeup, and he knows how to set up hitters while mixing all of his offerings. While he won’t get many swings and misses against advanced hitters, Gilmartin is an efficient hurler who records lots of groundouts. He fields his position well and can swing the bat.
The Future: An eventual No. 3 starter, Gilmartin has the polish to move as quickly as the Braves need. They sent him to the Arizona Fall League and will ship him to Double-A Mississippi to begin his first full pro season. He may not need much more than a year in the minors.
6. Edward Salcedo, 3B/SS Born: Jul 30, 1991 B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-3. Wt.: 195
Signed: Dominican Republic, 2010. Signed by: Roberto Aquino.
Background: Salcedo was a hot prospect on the international market in 2007, but he couldn’t sign for two years while Major League Baseball investigated his identity and birthdate. He finally signed for in February 2010 for $1.6 million, a franchise record for a foreign amateur. He has spent a season and a half struggling at low Class A Rome, but he has shown improvement and his natural ability has started to emerge.
Scouting Report: Salcedo has above-average power potential, thanks to his quick bat and smooth stroke. Tremendously raw when he signed, he showed a more advanced approach and greater knowledge of the strike zone in 2011. He’s a below-average runner, so his move from shortstop to third base was inevitable. Salcedo has the arm strength and agility for the hot corner, but he makes too many errors (40 in 100 games at third) by trying to force plays. Scouts are mixed on whether he should remain on the dirt or move to an outfield corner.
The Future: After opening 2010 in the Rookie-level Dominican Summer League and spending the end of ‘10 and all of 2011 in Rome, Salcedo could move faster now that he has started to build a solid foundation. He’ll move up to high Class A in 2012, though he doesn’t figure to be big league ready before 2014.
7. Tyler Pastornicky, SS Born: Dec 13, 1989 B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-11. Wt.: 170
Drafted: Pendleton School, Bradenton, Fla., 2008 (5th round). Signed by: Joel Grampietro (Blue Jays).
Background: Swapping Yunel Escobar for Alex Gonzalez hasn’t worked out as the Braves hoped, but they did get Pastornicky as part of the July 2010 trade with the Blue Jays. The son of former big leaguer Cliff Pastornicky, he never got past A-ball with the Jays but jumped right to Double-A following the trade. He blossomed in all phases of the game in 2011 and would have made his major league debut if not for a high ankle sprain in mid-August.
Scouting Report: Pastornicky competes as well as anyone in the system and has excellent instincts. He has a good feel for hitting and makes consistent line-drive contact, though he could stand to draw a few more walks. He doesn’t have a lot of strength, but he has a quick bat and could develop gap power. Pastornicky has plus speed and the aptitude to steal bases. He has above-average range at shortstop, and he could get more out of his average arm with a more consistent arm slot.
The Future: Pastornicky has proven to be better than Atlanta expected and now is knocking on the door to the big leagues. With Gonzalez’s contract up after his disappointing season, the Braves are considering their options, and Pastornicky is clearly the best in-house option to replace him.
Interesting picking up the Hinske option.
Now the bench has Ross, Hinske and Diaz, and you have to have a CF and a SS.
Not sure how this new LF/RF person is going to fit on the team……..
October 31st, 201112:07 pm
Vizcaino is a season-ending injury just waiting to happen. Deal him now while his value is at its highest.
Monty – The original sentence was:
“He appears to be defensively ahead of McCann and offensively capable of being as good.”
October 31st, 201112:08 pm
8. Zeke Spruill, RHP Born: Sep 11, 1989 B-T: B-R Ht.: 6-4. Wt.: 184
Drafted: Kell HS, Marietta, Ga., 2008 (2nd round). Signed by: Brian Bridges.
Background: After missing time because of off-field issues in 2009 and a broken right hand (the result of punching a dugout wall) in 2010, Spruill finally put together the full season the Braves hoped for in 2011 in a return to high Class A. He led the minors with six complete games and ranked third with 175 innings, and he also topped the Carolina League with a 1.01 WHIP.
Scouting Report: Spruill found success by pounding the bottom of the strike zone with his sinking 91-94 mph fastball, pitching to contact and not worrying about strikeouts. He uses his fastball command to get ahead in the count, then mixes in his secondary pitches to keep hitters off-balance. Spruill’s solid changeup also has good sink and he throws it with the same arm action he employs with his fastball. His slider has been inconsistent but shows impressive tilt and movement when he’s throwing it well. He gets in trouble when he leaves his pitches up in the zone.
The Future: In danger of becoming a forgotten prospect before his breakout season, Spruill will return to Double-A to open 2012. If he continues on this path, he can become a workhorse No. 3 or 4 starter in the big leagues.
9. Christian Bethancourt, C Born: Sep 02, 1991 B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-2. Wt.: 190
Signed: Panama, 2008. Signed by: Luis Ortiz.
Background: Scouts have been enthralled with Bethancourt’s potential since he played in the 2004 Little League World Series for Panama. Four years later, he signed with Atlanta for $600,000. He can frustrate the organization at times with his lack of maturity and consistency, but he’s a rare catching prospect with all-around potential.
Scouting Report: No one questions Bethancourt’s raw tools. He has soft hands, plus arm strength and a quick release that helped him throw out 38 percent of basestealers in 2011. He also possesses good hand-eye coordination, makes consistent contact and shows solid raw power. He also runs well for a catcher. However, several scouts question Bethancourt’s approach at the plate and behind it. He’s a free swinger who rarely walks and wastes too many at-bats. Defensively, he often picks at pitches in the dirt instead of shifting his body. His body language and lack of fire at times also leave a lot to be desired.
The Future: Bethancourt is still just 20, so he has time to develop. The Braves challenged him to show improvement in 2011 and he responded impressively. If he continues to work hard and hone his skills, he can become a big league starter and perhaps an all-star. He should spend the majority of 2012 in Double-A.
10. Brandon Drury, 3B Born: Aug 21, 1992 B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-2. Wt.: 190
Drafted: Grants Pass (Ore.) HS, 2010 (13th round). Signed by: Brett Evert.
Background: The top high school position player out of Oregon in the 2010 draft and an Oregon State commitment, Drury signed for $85,000 as a 13th-rounder and hit just .198/.248/.292 in his pro debut. He looked like a different hitter in 2011, leading the Rookie-level Appalachian League with 92 hits and falling .0003 shy of the batting title.
Scouting Report: Drury employs a compact stroke while keeping his hands back and generating above-average bat speed. He excels at making contact—almost to a fault because he walked just six times in 63 games in 2011—and does a nice job of using the entire field. He gets good carry on his hits because of the backspin he generates, and his doubles could turn into homers as he adds strength and experience. A shortstop in high school, Drury has made a smooth adjustment to third base. He displays average range with solid arm strength and good instincts at the hot corner. The only thing he doesn’t do well is run, as he possesses below-average speed. His work ethic and makeup are considered major assets.
The Future: Edward Salcedo is his competition to be Atlanta’s third baseman of the future, and Drury may eventually win out because he’s the better defender. He will get his first taste of full-season ball at Rome in 2012.
October 31st, 201112:10 pm
Agree, however I thought Pastornicky’s floor would of had him higher on the list. Glad they went more with upside, although I’m surprised Zeke Spruill is ahead of Bethancourt. Drury is the one surprise in beating out Matt Lipka.
October 31st, 201112:11 pm
Efrim,thanks for the posts.
October 31st, 201112:13 pm
Murph, I have no problem with moving Vizcaino to grab a big outfield bat. I’m with you, there might be a lot of injury concerns there.
October 31st, 201112:14 pm
I like that Simmons is as high as he is. In the article it says that Wren was hoping to keep his top 6 prospects. My guess is that includes Minor, but I think Wren wants to keep Simmons, Salcedo and Pastornicky. Makes me think Bethancourt’s AFL appearance could be for show as a trade target. Anyway, great stuff from BA. Ben Badler is holding a chat at 3:30pm EST.
And sorry for the ridiculously long posts!!!
October 31st, 201112:16 pm
Thanks for the posts no matter how long they are. All great reads!
October 31st, 201112:17 pm
Alright, season’s finally over! Lets start “cleaning house!!!”
First on the list…..trade Heyward dang it!
Give Mac an ultimatum…….perform or be gone!
October 31st, 201112:18 pm
Efrim, where did the prospects we sent Houston fall on their top 10 list? if any of them at all made it.
October 31st, 201112:19 pm
Atlanta has spent just $7.6 million on DeMacio’s two drafts, which ranks ahead of only the White Sox in bonus spending over the last two years.
October 31st, 201112:22 pm
where did the prospects we sent Houston fall on their top 10 list? if any of them at all made it.
My guess is Oberholtzer would of been on the list, possibly Clemens too. But they’d be 11-13, along with Lipka, if they didn’t make the top 10.
October 31st, 201112:27 pm
The Braves also remain active on the international front but aren’t in the market for the big-bucks prospects like they were when they signed Teheran for $850,000 in 2007.
Thank you for all the good INFO. Good ERIC will be back.
October 31st, 201112:30 pm
Poor Mixxo. Couldn’t even get one bite.
October 31st, 201112:33 pm
Efrim – Great info. Thanks.
Mixxo – I see you jumped on to stir the pot, as usual. I don’t even need to respond.
October 31st, 201112:34 pm
I know this is hypothetical and subjective. But…Given the same players over the same period of time, if TLR was managing the Braves (instead of Bobby Cox), would the Braves have won more WS titles than the one?
P-Town Brave ©
Sounds to me like we’re headed in the wrong direction there….
Is that your opinion as well?
October 31st, 201112:35 pm
I will agree with Mixxo on HAYWARD.
By the way, I’d like to mention (and VJ can back me on this) that I called La Russa walking away…
October 31st, 201112:37 pm
I didn’t think Hinske would be back. Shows how important a good club house guy and teammate is because his numbers dropped big this year. I’m glad. I guess.
I wouldn’t mind Willingham. Sure, he’ll probably injury himself for the one thousandth time I his career, but you’d have Prado,Diaz or Hinske to back him up.
October 31st, 201112:38 pm
P-Town, yes, we are making it a lot harder on ourselves with a low budget and change in philosophy.
October 31st, 201112:39 pm
“Offensively capable of being as good”? Yeah, we’ll see how that goes…
You’re welcome, cab!
monty Until someone comes and plays big league ball and wins 5 or 6 silver slugger awards and has 5 straight All Star appearances
As it stands now, that’s 4 Silver Sluggers and 6 straight All-Star appearances…
Mixxo – Wow! Great comeback!
October 31st, 201112:40 pm
Derek Lowe traded!
October 31st, 201112:41 pm
I thought Hinske would be back during the season, but after Diaz was traded for, I didn’t see it.
Ross, Hinske, and Diaz combine for a little over 5 million dollars.
October 31st, 201112:42 pm
I could be wrong, but I haven’t heard many who think he will be as good as McCann offensively…but then few are.
Rob from SC
WE traded LOWE to the Indians
Going to Indians!
October 31st, 201112:43 pm
That has got to be a hoke…
October 31st, 201112:44 pm
Frank Wren HATES waiting around. It’s amazing. The guy can’t stand it.
Jimenez, Carmona, Masterson, Lowe. Decent rotation for the Indians. They will need to play great D.
Well,not quite Siberia but close. LOL
Is that for real?
October 31st, 201112:45 pm
Wait…is it true? Jon Heyman is not the most reliable…
Chris from the Rock
Good bye, Lowe.
Party at Arky’s!
Wow just saw the news about DLowe. Any details?
October 31st, 201112:46 pm
According to Heyman,George.
Lowe has been traded to the Indians and multiple twitter accounts are ablaze of the story. I’d bet the Braves are picking up 10-12 million.
Random, you were wrong, bud.
Lowe has been traded!!!!!!!!!!!!! miracle
October 31st, 201112:47 pm
I think $4MM back to the Braves would be reasonable. Here’s hoping….
See, my clubs are no joke. Better not have to make one about anybody next year.
October 31st, 201112:48 pm
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Atlanta is absorbing all but $5 million of the money owed to Derek Lowe in this; second-line player return going from CLE to ATL.
Braves will have to pay about 10 million of his 15 million dollar salary
That, from Jon Heyman.
Thank you, if it is real DOB will be on here it a bit.
Holy crap, the Indians just acquired LOWE!!!!!
October 31st, 201112:49 pm
See,it wasn’t a hoke.
October 31st, 201112:50 pm
Congratulations FW for acting quickly AGAIN!
October 31st, 201112:51 pm
5 million, Wren good job. According to Olney
Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!
I can’t believe that Wren got rid of Lowe… this certainly helps take the sting off of a crappy Braves October!
Way to go Frank!
As the Soup Nazi would say…
October 31st, 201112:52 pm
Oh, It’s true!! Everyone is reporting it.
Any idea what we got for him?
Don’t let the door hit ya in the αss on the way out DLowe!!
Yes, I see that now. My apologies!
October 31st, 201112:53 pm
Thank you, if it is real DOB will be on here it a bit.
He’s probably making calls and getting quotes as we speak, if it’s true.
October 31st, 201112:54 pm
$5MM, not bad. That’s slightly better than I expected.
please let this be true!!!!!
October 31st, 201112:55 pm
I think it would be appropriate for all of us to get blazed now in honor of Lowe’s time in ATL.
Arky must’ve fainted.
October 31st, 201112:56 pm
Now there’s money for a SS
October 31st, 201112:58 pm
According to Keith Law, Braves are getting an A-ball reliever in return. Salary relief really is the return
“In scouting director Tony DeMacio’s two years on the job, Atlanta has shifted its draft philosophy. The Braves used to focus on younger players and mined talent-rich Georgia as well as any club protected its borders. Now they concentrate primarily on college players who might have lower ceilings but cost less and will move faster through the minors.
The Braves also remain active on the international front but aren’t in the market for the big-bucks prospects like they were when they signed Teheran for $850,000 in 2007.”
That’s just sad. Wished they just focus on the best talent available regardless of location and cost.
October 31st, 201112:59 pm
OK,I guess we can go for Reyes now. (Joking)
The Braves will pay all but $5MM of Lowe’s $15MM salary,
Very rare indeed. Braves never send cash in a deal. And you know what this means don’t you? JJ WILL NOT BE TRADED.
Oh it also means Random was incorrect.
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