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Ward
October 31st, 2011
12:29 am
Trey,who would you want,as outfielder. That could be affordable?
P'cola Brave
October 31st, 2011
12:35 am
Trey
Bourn, C. Jones, McCann, Uggla and Willingham coud be quite potent. Add the two youngsters and a SS and it could be a good lineup.
David O'Brien
October 31st, 2011
12:46 am
Looks like Braves will take it close to the deadline (Monday midnight) before announcing whether they’re picking up Hinske’s $1.5 mill option. And McLouth’s, too, though we assume that’s a mere formality since they surely aren’t going to exercise the $10.65 mill. Why wait to annnounce that one tomorrow? Not sure, but sometimes they have reasons, though in this case I can’t see any way there would be a trade possibility, etc.
Ward
October 31st, 2011
12:50 am
DOB: Whats your take on the outfielders? Have you heard any thing,and what the Braves might be interested in,as of now,or is Wren keeping it all hush?
Ward
October 31st, 2011
12:51 am
Talking about Free Agency DOB……
Ward
October 31st, 2011
12:56 am
Yanks, picked up Swishers contract,so scratch Swisher off…..
Spud
October 31st, 2011
1:07 am
I just read all 3,306 comments. Man, number 1,654 was pretty good! I can’t remember a few, may need to read them all again.
Trey
October 31st, 2011
1:20 am
Ward, I want someone with a good bat and a strong arm.
P’Cola, exactly. Also, Minor should be back sometime next season and we could use his arm.
Ward
October 31st, 2011
1:21 am
Talk tomorrow,and peace everyone!
Trey
October 31st, 2011
1:24 am
Good nigh.
Big Jake
October 31st, 2011
2:09 am
nolie had a good day Sunday. They are starting to let him move around a little bit.
FSU looked good and made him happy. I DVRed it for him too.
David O'Brien
October 31st, 2011
8:19 am
Fact that Braves CF McLouth was among 148 players who became free agents Sunday means $10.65 mill option was already officially declined, as everyone knew it would be. Gets $1.25 mill buyout.
In past 2 seasons, McLouth hit .210 with 10 HR, .322 OBP, .328 slugging (.650 OPS), 40 RBI in 522 AB. Yikes….
Hinske option decision to come today. Deadline is midnight.
Rob from SC
October 31st, 2011
8:23 am
DOB
What is your feelings on Hinske? Do we pick it up or decline?
richbrave
October 31st, 2011
8:55 am
ROB from SC:
Decline, then maybe bring him back for less depending on who else we get. And I think MATTY D is gone too.
O.J.
October 31st, 2011
9:02 am
richbrave, unless the Braves plan to trade Matty D or release him, then he will be with the team next year. he has 1 year left at 2 million dollars.
TennesseePaul
October 31st, 2011
9:04 am
[McLouth's] $10.65 mill option was already officially declined
Biggest. Shock. Of. The. Off-season.
On another note, the dude had a terrible time here as a baseball player, but he seemed to handle it very well. Kept his head up. Did what was asked of him, said the right things and didn’t make trouble or excuses. I appreciate that.
TennesseePaul
October 31st, 2011
9:06 am
he will be with the team next year. he has 1 year left at 2 million dollars.
Perhaps a bit less as the Pirates sent some amount of cash in the deal and the Braves “average the cost” of the contract.
David O'Brien
October 31st, 2011
9:07 am
Major league free agents can sign with new teams beginning Thursday.
David O'Brien
October 31st, 2011
9:07 am
Rob from SC, just don’t know about Hinske. If I had to guess, I’d guess they pick up his option. But we’ll know soon, that’s for sure.
CB
October 31st, 2011
9:07 am
rich,Matt Diaz is under contract for this year and would have to be paid. Man, I looked at the list of free agent SS and not much there besides Reyes,Rollins. Wonder if Braves might consider going cheaper route and sign Wilson back? Hope Pastornicky gets ready in a hurry.
TennesseePaul
October 31st, 2011
9:12 am
Perhaps a bit less as the Pirates sent some amount of cash in the deal and the Braves “average the cost” of the contract.
Though, now that I go look to find details on this I’m finding something very different than I initially thought.
The AP report: “The NL wild card-leading Braves acquired Diaz for a player to be named and cash considerations.”
Bill Brink of the Pitt Gazette: “The Pirates traded outfielder Matt Diaz to the Atlanta Braves Wednesday for a player to be named later or cash.”
AJC/DOB: “The Braves re-acquired the popular outfielder from Pittsburgh on Wednesday in a trade for a player to be named. The Pirates also gave the Braves an undisclosed amount of cash to cover a portion of Diaz’s $2 million salary in 2012.”
All three of those are different.
TennesseePaul
October 31st, 2011
9:18 am
I looked at the list of free agent SS and not much there…
CB, I think it is a given they are going the cheaper route. I suppose their meeting could conclude that Pastornicky needs another full season in the minors. But, either way that limits the quality of player the team could target. 2 year deals are more enticing to a player than a 1 year deal. And the players almost certainly know Pastornicky is there waiting to limit their playing time. So the team would have to find a guy willing to take a bench roll on a short term deal. That’s a short list of not so inspiring players.
richbrave
October 31st, 2011
9:26 am
tiger297 and I were surmising that the BRAVES this season were not seeing as many pitches as the CARDS and RANGERS were in the series. So I looked up their pitches per plate appearance. I found UGGLA’s especially noteworthy.
After the player’s name is their pitches per plate appearance for 2011, then 2010, and cumulative for their ML career. All except FREEMAN of course. I used the CARDINALS to compare.
C
McCANN 3.92 – 4.00 = 3.81……..MOLINA 3.47 – 3.64 = 3.47
3B
JONES 3.60 – 3.82 = 3.70………..FREESE 4.02 – 3.78 = 3.91
SS
GONZALEZ 3.53 – 3.55 = 3.58…..FURCAL 3.74 StL – 3.98 = 3.86
2B
UGGLA 3.88 – 4.19 = 4.01………..DECALSO 3.62 – 3.19 = 3.58
1B
FREEMAN 3.89……………………..PUJOLS 3.65 – 4.03 + 3.84
CF
BOURNE 3.90 – 4.02 = 3.97……..SCHUMAKER 3.65 – 3.67 = 3.62
LF
PRADO 3.74 – 3.94 = 3.84……….HOLLIDAY 3.92 – 3.83 = 3.73
RF
HEYWARD 3.92 – 4.13 = 4.04…..BERKMAN 3.78 – 3.60 = 3.88
The league average appeared to be 3.82 per PA although the number jumped around a bit from player profile to player profile. That number was most consistant.
I was struck more by the individual results of the BRAVES personnel themselves than I was by the comparative figures. In several cases for the BRAVES, the numbers declined significantly from ‘10 to ‘11. See JONES, UGGLA, PRADO, and HEYWARD specifically
richbrave
October 31st, 2011
9:33 am
And MATTY D’s numbers
2011 3.56 Pirates/3.59 Braves
2010 3.48
Career = 3.45
One of the worst on either team, and that’s why I’m thinking he’s not on the team next season, although the influence of being a BRAVE again may improve his selectivity slightly in 2012.
richbrave
October 31st, 2011
9:38 am
HINSKI’s BTW was one of the best as was ROSS.’ 4.09 for ‘SKI vs 3.99 in 2010 and 3.91 for ROSS vs 4.09 in ‘10.
Arkansas Transplant
October 31st, 2011
9:39 am
Good morning richbrave, so what’s the word out of the winter leagues this morning? How did Gilmartin fair Friday? Terdo?
Arkansas Transplant
October 31st, 2011
9:41 am
The Braves first priorities this offseason should be to move Lowe and settle quickly with those seeking arb increases allowing us to gage what we have to spend and join the free agent seach party sooner.
richbrave
October 31st, 2011
9:42 am
And 10P:
Who ya’ gonna’ believe regarding MATTY D, those other hacks or our very own DOB? Come on man.
richbrave
October 31st, 2011
9:44 am
AT:
Previous page [33] @ 11:23 p.m. Got the whole group including MATT YOUNG. feed bag time. Gotta’ run.
David O'Brien
October 31st, 2011
10:00 am
The AP report: “The NL wild card-leading Braves acquired Diaz for a player to be named and cash considerations.”
Bill Brink of the Pitt Gazette: “The Pirates traded outfielder Matt Diaz to the Atlanta Braves Wednesday for a player to be named later or cash.”
AJC/DOB: “The Braves re-acquired the popular outfielder from Pittsburgh on Wednesday in a trade for a player to be named. The Pirates also gave the Braves an undisclosed amount of cash to cover a portion of Diaz’s $2 million salary in 2012.”
All three of those are different. — TennPaul
No, they most certainly are not. The AP report and mine are exactly the same — Diaz for a player to be named and cash to cover part of his salary. That’s “cash considerations,” TennPaul. In other words, an undisclosed amount of cash.
Efrim
October 31st, 2011
10:03 am
I still think this would be a good time to talk to McCann about an extension. Heck, even better with him coming off of a down year. I’m sure his agent would like to just keep going through the remaining years of the deal.
David O'Brien
October 31st, 2011
10:03 am
Was asked out here in Arizona about Terry Pendleton as a managerial possibility and whether I thought he was interested. Seems his name is coming up again as a potential candidate, as it did a few years ago….
O.J.
October 31st, 2011
10:06 am
I thought Arizona had a manager.
Efrim
October 31st, 2011
10:10 am
Work email wasn’t working all weekend, then got a text this morning office was closed. Almost a million people without power in Connecticut. I got lucky this time around – not so much when Hurricane Irene came through this past summer.
Efrim
October 31st, 2011
10:16 am
WOW. Tony La Russa goes out on top and retires. I wonder what that does to Albert’s decision…although I have no idea what their relationship is like. Man, that was unexpected.
Ease
October 31st, 2011
10:17 am
Wow, La Russa is retiring!
Ease
October 31st, 2011
10:18 am
And with DOB hearing Pendelton’s name about potential manager openings…
Might be a fit there…
Efrim
October 31st, 2011
10:18 am
I somehow hate the Cards less now.
Murph
October 31st, 2011
10:18 am
Nasty storm… hope Lew is ok. My wife’s family lives outside of Philly and they’ve had power for about an hour over the last 3 days. Crazy stuff.
It was in the mid 80’s here in TX this weekend. Spent the weekend at the pool.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
10:18 am
Efrim Heck, even better with him coming off of a down year.
His entire season wasn’t a down year…
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
10:19 am
Efrim I somehow hate the Cards less now.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
10:19 am
Hey! Didn’t TP play for St. Louis? Maybe they’ll want him…
Lew
October 31st, 2011
10:22 am
Murph – Seems Efrim and those somewhat south of us got the worst of this storm. We got about three inches of snow and it didn’t even stick to the roads. South Vermont (I’m in Central) got hit pretty bad – down by the Massachusetts line.
TennesseePaul
October 31st, 2011
10:22 am
No, they most certainly are not. The AP report and mine are exactly the same — Diaz for a player to be named and cash to cover part of his salary. That’s “cash considerations,” TennPaul. In other words, an undisclosed amount of cash.
Apologies DOB, but I guess it’s all in the way one reads the commas and coordinating conjunctions. Wasn’t trying to be snooty or anything. Perhaps I should have diagrammed the sentences? More specifically, what differed when I read them is the organization of the sentences. The AP worded it as The Braves acquired Diaz for all of the following (PTBNL and Cash). The Gazette worded it as the Braves acquired Diaz for one of the following (PTBNL or Cash). Your report was clear and to the point.
The way I read them:
The AP report: “The NL wild card-leading Braves acquired Diaz for a player to be named and cash considerations.”
–Pirates send the Braves Diaz; Braves agree to send PTBNL plus Braves send cash considerations. Perhaps the following was intended and had it been written this way would be more clear:
The NL wild card-leading Braves acquired Diaz [and cash considerations] for a player to be named.
Bill Brink of the Pitt Gazette: “The Pirates traded outfielder Matt Diaz to the Atlanta Braves Wednesday for a player to be named later or cash.”
–Pirates send Braves Diaz; Braves agree to send PTBNL Braves send or cash. And this one I can’t think of how to word it in which none of the trade is conditional.
Lew
October 31st, 2011
10:24 am
Murph – Where outside of Philly are they? I’ve got family still outside the city
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
10:26 am
Lew it didn’t even stick to the roads.
That’s good!
We’ve got friends up in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania and they were expecting about 8 inches of snow…
Efrim
October 31st, 2011
10:27 am
Lew, we got it pretty bad down here. It was wet, heavy snow too. And with all of the leaves still on the trees and the time of the year, tons of trees came down. I think it ended up being only around 6-8 inches – but CT isn’t used to snow that early. We got lucky and didn’t lose power, but many others did.
Lew
October 31st, 2011
10:30 am
Efrim – We don’t even have leaves on the trees anymore. We were pretty much at the northern edge of the storm (and a bit west). Burlington, which is about an hour northwest of us had one tenth of an inch of snow.
Need to call my college roommate down in Hartford, though and see how he did.
TennesseePaul
October 31st, 2011
10:30 am
Leyland is the last of the managers I suppose. I always watched the game with the point of view that Leyland, Cox and LaRussa were the “big” managers and most all else were junior level. It’ll be along time before some one comes up to the status/stature of LaRussa and Cox. Those two had so many years in the game and such sustained success.
David O'Brien
October 31st, 2011
10:31 am
La Russa says he’s retiring, and I won’t be surprised if Braves 1B coach Terry Pendleton (former Cardinals stud) becomes StL managerial candidate.
Murph
October 31st, 2011
10:32 am
Glad to hear you escaped the wet snow madness, Lew.
I lived in Chicago for 3 years and had my fair share of snow, but we never got the wet nasty stuff that you guys get… it was always dry, sandy snow.
The only thing I miss about the snow was the snow blowing… we had a super long driveway and it was an hour outside in the peace and quiet with the mini-Murphs. There’s something fun about starting with a foot of snow on the ground and cutting a path, making it nice and neat, and filling your neighbor’s yard with snow.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
10:32 am
“coming off a down year”…?…more like coming off an injury that affected his play during the last several weeks, and from which any reasonable person would wxpect him to rebound.
dannyboy
October 31st, 2011
10:32 am
Enter your comments here
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
10:35 am
Lew – Glad to hear you’re OK.
I’ve been out all weekend. Any news on nolie?
Efrim
October 31st, 2011
10:36 am
I wonder if Francona is a managerial candidate too….
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
10:36 am
LaRussa retiring? Good riddance to the whiner, as far as I’m concerned. Wonder if he knows something about Albert P?
Efrim
October 31st, 2011
10:38 am
“coming off a down year”…?…
His numbers at the end of the season were below his usual average. Whether or not it was based on an injury, it was worse than his career averages – hence, down year. I think McCann will bounce back and put up his usual numbers if not better. I’d love for the Braves to lokc him up so he’s our catcher over the next five or six seasons.
CB
October 31st, 2011
10:39 am
Hmmm,maybe Cardinals can steal Fredi from us.
raleigh,nolie is improving and had a good day Sunday.
TennesseePaul
October 31st, 2011
10:40 am
I won’t be surprised if Braves 1B coach Terry Pendleton (former Cardinals stud) becomes StL managerial candidate.
Candidate. I could see that. I wonder if he’d be interested in taking the job if offered. And if so, who would replace him as 1B coach. I’d imagine that would be an internal promotion rather than scouring the major leagues.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
10:40 am
Efrim – Agree with locking him up.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
10:40 am
DOB La Russa says he’s retiring, and I won’t be surprised if Braves 1B coach Terry Pendleton (former Cardinals stud) becomes StL managerial candidate.
Hey! Didn’t I just read that somewhere around 10:19…?
dannyboy
October 31st, 2011
10:41 am
TLR is retiring huh great manager have alot of respect for what he has done. But this is a question will the braves try to get more bullpen help and give the young guys some rest or try to get a power bat via trade or FA. Also CC is a FA now but only the know what they want. Man the next couple of years are going to be great!!! Don’t give up on braves country just yet.we will win a world in the next 4 years!!!
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
10:42 am
CB – Thanks for the update. That’s good news indeed. Hurry back, nolie.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
10:44 am
Efrim it was worse than his career averages – hence, down year.
Yes, but until the injury his number were pretty normal (except maybe the Doubles…they were pretty much down all year). He was batting .310 when he went on the DL, so one has to think that the 40-point drop in AVG had SOMETHING to do with the stupid friggin’ injury…
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
10:45 am
Glad nolie had a good day yesterday!
By saying “ew” to cab about Orlando Bloom the other night, I’m thinking that I’ve kept Stanly and the doghouse company in his absence… 
Lew
October 31st, 2011
10:45 am
Actually, Mac’s numbers were pretty much in line with his career averages. He was a bit lower in Batting Average and RBI, but we keep hearing of their insignificance.
Dude might well still win the Silver Slugger – attributable to the fact he was having a career year prior to his injury and even a terrible September couldn’t negate that.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
10:48 am
dannyboy – for 2012, bullpen includes big three + Martinez, Valvaro, Medlen, possibley Lowe, and probably at least one of the youn’uns (Vizciano is most likely), plus others will be given a chance in Spring. If we still need someone, it will likely me a middle-inning fill-in or LH situational. I don’t see the bullpen as our greatest problem nest year. Could likely be a real strength for Braves.
CB
October 31st, 2011
10:48 am
Please don’t attack me over this one but wonder if Braves and McCann might work out a long term contract where the money is more back loaded? He is scheduled for 8.5 million this year and 12 next year. With Chipper’s salary likely and Lowe for sure coming off next year maybe something they might look at together.
Ease
October 31st, 2011
10:48 am
McFann, um no…It would have been around 10:18 am.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
10:49 am
typos suck. I usually proofread.
George
October 31st, 2011
10:51 am
Good morning y’all
About LaRUSSA retireing. I think he had some heath problems during the season, think he had to take some time off.
richbrave
October 31st, 2011
10:54 am
Another former BRAVE’s player become manager retires. First GASTON, then TORRE, and now LaRUSSA. COX of course played for the STANKEES, here in RICHMOND in the mid-fifties.
Efrim
October 31st, 2011
10:55 am
Please don’t attack me over this one but wonder if Braves and McCann might work out a long term contract where the money is more back loaded?
I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. Although I don’t think they’d tear up the current deal and 2012’s 8.5 million. I do think they will work something out for 2013-2016/2017. But that may not happen until after next season.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
10:58 am
Ease—
Yeah, like anybody reads that guy’s posts…
Lew—
His RBI and Doubles were down, too, but they’d sorta…been doing that the last couple years…but yeah, you take away at least September, and he had a dang good year!…
The last few weeks are clouding everyone’s minds!!…
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
10:59 am
CB Please don’t attack me over this one but wonder if Braves and McCann might work out a long term contract where the money is more back loaded?
I can’t attack you for that because I don’t know what it means…
CB
October 31st, 2011
10:59 am
Efrim,agreed not likely to happen on 2012 but with our payroll restrictions was hoping they might. One other way might be to go with youth in bullpen and not bring Moylan back or signing any other experienced relievers.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
11:00 am
I know Braves would like to keep McCann as long as possible. I hope he also wants to stay. Chipper is a good model for that.
Ease
October 31st, 2011
11:00 am
Obviously
CB
October 31st, 2011
11:02 am
McFann,more money in last years of contract in place of early years. He still gets his money.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
11:02 am
Ease—
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
11:03 am
CB—
Oh! Well, I don’t care what he gets as long as he stays here!…
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
11:05 am
CB – I don’t really expect Maylan back, unless they can sign him on the cheap. They like experience, but I like the bang for the buck they would get with the young guys. If Lowe’s still around, he would add years of expeience to bullpen. Not “optimal”, but he may be untradable, and I damn sure don’t want to see him back as a trarter.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
11:08 am
I hate to even bring it up….but has anyone seen Shaun lately? Did we finally run him off? Is he OK? He sure got tiresome sometimes, but I hope nothing bad has happened to him.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
11:08 am
Maylan = Moylan, of course. Damned typos.
CB
October 31st, 2011
11:09 am
raleigh,yes,I would prefer going with youth(sans Lowe) in BP. I would prefer Lowe to be in Siberia than on the roster.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
11:11 am
Maybe Shaun misses nolie…
Murph
October 31st, 2011
11:14 am
I’m sure Shaun will be back when Wren starts making some moves… he won’t be able to resist comparing whatever new guy the team gets to Heyward while explaining ad nauseum how the new guy should be taking PA’s away from Prado and not JHey.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
11:14 am
CB – I don’t disagree at all about Lowe, but I don’t think Wren will eat the entire $15M, and I’s surely rather see him in the bullpen than back as a starter every 5 days.Of course, he could always Kawakomie him, but it wsould be at twice the price. I’m thinking someone will take on about $5M of his contract, especially if he showes ANYTHING in the Spring. Eating $10M would suck, but we could do something with the $5M.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2011
11:16 am
McFann – I want nolie back, even if it means the return of Shaun.
Murph@11:14 – Funny stuff, and probably true.
Efrim
October 31st, 2011
11:19 am
Indians pick up option on Carmona, decline on Sizemore. I guess that makes sense.
Arkansas Transplant
October 31st, 2011
11:19 am
I just hope we get an actual left fielder this off season.
Arkansas Transplant
October 31st, 2011
11:20 am
Efrim, I wouldn’t mind seeing us bring Sizemore to play LF next year.. the problem is… he’s one of those guys that will probably come at a high price tag with a lot of injury concerns attached to him.
George
October 31st, 2011
11:24 am
Good NOLIE had a good Sunday.
Lew
October 31st, 2011
11:25 am
Transplant – They will get an outfielder that can p[lay corners – they won’t trade Prado (necessitating not only a LFer, but someone who can play third, too) and they won’t get a full timer and put Martin back to utility status. Maybe NEXT winter, but not this year.
Arkansas Transplant
October 31st, 2011
11:29 am
Lew, I just think if we get through this offseason without a significant addition to the outfield, more than likely this will go down as an unproductive offseason.
Murph
October 31st, 2011
11:33 am
AT, I agree… not looking for anything big to happen this offseason.
If the team could trade Lowe plus $10mil and sign Andruw I’d be a happy guy. They’ll need to get someone capable of playing SS everyday but I’m really hoping they actually let Pastornicky compete for the starting job in ST.
Another decent bullpen arm wouldn’t hurt either.
Lew
October 31st, 2011
11:34 am
Transplant – Don’t see why it should. Prado missed time and had bad mechanics afterward as a direct result of a serious injury – no reason whatsoever to think he won’t come back to .300, .350, .450 like he hit three consecutive years prior to his injured leg. And as for the concerns about his lack of power at a power position – what would it matter if your LFer hits 14 HR and your 2B 35, or vice versa?
Wren wants someone who can play left when Prado is moved to third and to play right when (IF) Heyward continues to falter. At no time has he mentioned full time LF as a position he needs to fill – not to mention that payroll is up against it’s limits this year and will be less constrictive next winter.
McFann O O o Get Well Soon, Nolie!!
October 31st, 2011
11:38 am
raleighbravefan—
Yeah, me, too!
I also do hope nothing bad happened to Shaun…dude just needs to chill, but then don’t we all at times?
Lew
October 31st, 2011
11:38 am
Murph – Again, if they were looking for a RH hitting platoon partner, Andruw would be a good possibility. However, he doesn’t hit RH pitching all that well and he would need to hit against RH AND LH pitching if playing left when Prado was at third and NOT just platooning with Heyward. .
CB
October 31st, 2011
11:38 am
Yes,mostly sarcasm on the Lowe comment but would prefer him gone. Of course,Random will along soon to tell me Lowe will not be traded. LOL