Tom O’Hawke–Without going into too many details. I had reached an agreement with a company. They decided to renege on it. Then chewed me out as if I was the one causing trouble. Caused really horrible havoc for me. Spent half the day on the phone with board chair and treasurer, as well as my lawyer. Will probably have to go down to DC to meet with another of my lawyers.
moe – well that makes sense…if I screw something up but yell and go on the offensive it becomes much more difficult for you to come after me while you are protecting yourself.
By the time the truth comes out it won’t matter anymore (or will at least matter less).
uga – think it will depend largely on the draw…think moe will win with the larger more obscure words but scoots ability to create a large volume might be hard to stop
C CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT [.350 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B [3], 1 HR [2], 3 RBI [8], 2 SO, 1 CS [3]. Great to see him right back in the next game after being taken out with that hand injury last game.
RHRP BILLY BULLOCK [BS 2, 13.50 ERA] 1.0 IP, 2 H, 3 R/ER, 1 BB, 2 SO, 6 BF…30 p/ 16 S, 0 GO/ 1 AO. BILLY does not appear ready for prime-time at this point.
phil–I can’t think all lawyers are bad. I was on the phone all afternoon with mine. And since I am running a nonprofit. It is all pro bono. Even my much more chichi lawyer at a bigshot DC firm is working pro bono. So I can’t complain.
Sorry to come here and vent. Just had some rough things at work this week. (Some of which the DC lawyer should hopefully be able to address.) Then they exploded today. Two somewhat distinct things but beginning to intersect.
Mea culpa for distracting us from the World Series finale.
long day tomorrow of halloween stuff with the little one – I miss living in the sticks where there was only 1 thing to do. There are numerous opportunities to do halloween stuff and the other 1/2 likes to do as many as possible
I did, too, Efrim. I take little comfort in the thought that the kids they got from the Braves in the Tex trade didn’t work out so well for the Rangers in this WS (at least not Feliz and Harrison). This was a tough WS to deal with. I’m just happy it’s over and the “hot stove” can start!
Tony LaRussa…what a managing job. I mean his starters went 3 innings each game and somehow he pulled the right strings night after night with the bullpen and the lineup and got the city of St Louis another championship.
Congrats to Berkman, Freese, Pujols, etc. A bunch of classy guys that just didn’t give up.
Beginning Aug. 25, Cardinals finished 34-16 and won 12 of 13 series, inc. all three series vs. MIL, both series series vs. PHI, and one series apiece against ATL (sweep) and TEX. Their only series loss in that span was a 1-2 series vs. CIN Sept. 2-4.
It was with 32 left, I believe. I remember sitting there just thinking to myself, “geez, we’d pretty much have to go 12-20 to miss out on this thing”. Just simply incredible.
Also, I have not been happy with a World Series champion since the 2005 Chicago White Sox. Ugh…Giants and Cardinals back to back. Awful.
Tony R. is the greatest manger in the our generation and none may ever top him….we need to feel bless just to watch him at his best and he still has years to go if he decides to manage.
ESPN’s Buster Olney says that changes to the draft system being discussed during Collective Bargaining Agreement talks involve a draft tax (Twitter links). It would work similar to the luxury tax, forcing teams to pay if they spend over a certain amount. There is also talk about giving lower revenue clubs additional picks, which some officials perceive to have little value.
Uh, the lower revenue clubs spend more in the draft, Buster. Pirates, Rays and Royals spend just as much as the Yankees and Red Sox. How about giving teams that refuse to spend on the draft additional picks? Braves, Philles, White Sox, Astros….
And Carlos Beltran did what in the post-season and then signed a mega deal and did what (when he wasn’t injured) during that contract? Signing or trading for anyone on the basis of a great post-season isn’t always a great idea.
please tell me you agree that we need a middle of the order guy that aint a catcher.
I’m actually okay with it. I just think we need more consistent production in 2012 from Heyward, Prado and Uggla. But I mean, of course we could use another middle of the order bat. I think the Braves were hoping Heyward was going to be that guy.
Especially when we have a Noon kickoff! Not that I’m going, mind you, but it annoys the heck out of me that MSU and Nebraska is a Noon kickoff – that’s 11:00 am in Nebraska, isn’t it?!
October 29th, 2011
12:19 am
The fact that LaRussa and Belichick are friends just scares me for some reason. I don’t like either of them, that’s probably why.
I think Bob Knight is good friends with TLR too.
LinkReport this comment.uga-brave
October 29th, 2011
12:21 am
well snot, is it because they all win?”
That doesn’t necessarily make people like each other. Sometimes quite the opposite. Maybe that they’re all combative, do-anything-to-win personality types who are not in the same game?
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phil
October 28th, 2011
10:51 pm
There’s something about Berkman in his twilight run here that i just really admire.
The guy has been something else this yr and good for him.
Moe Berg
October 28th, 2011
10:51 pm
Tom O’Hawke–Without going into too many details. I had reached an agreement with a company. They decided to renege on it. Then chewed me out as if I was the one causing trouble. Caused really horrible havoc for me. Spent half the day on the phone with board chair and treasurer, as well as my lawyer. Will probably have to go down to DC to meet with another of my lawyers.
TnBrian
October 28th, 2011
10:52 pm
At least it isn’t Philly about to win it all. Just never been a Cards fan. Matter of fact, I hate that team for some reason.
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
10:52 pm
baroquely diferent, and on a baseball blog no less.
who says we are all numbletards.
moe, you and scoots should play scrabble.
early line anyone?
phil
October 28th, 2011
10:53 pm
Ugh, Moe…i am a lawyer and am sorry you have to deal with any of them.
tiger297
October 28th, 2011
10:54 pm
moe – well that makes sense…if I screw something up but yell and go on the offensive it becomes much more difficult for you to come after me while you are protecting yourself.
By the time the truth comes out it won’t matter anymore (or will at least matter less).
tiger297
October 28th, 2011
10:56 pm
uga – think it will depend largely on the draw…think moe will win with the larger more obscure words but scoots ability to create a large volume might be hard to stop
Tom O'Hawke
October 28th, 2011
10:56 pm
Geez, Moe, you weren’t kiddin’ when you said you had a bad day. I’ll save my attempt at comedy for another time. Good luck with that.
If it helps you to talk about it, this is the place. Keep us apprised.
Moe Berg
October 28th, 2011
10:56 pm
Trey–Not exactly. I am the boss. So hope that is not the case.
Thanks, MIB. I am still glad that I made the career switch. But it has been a tough stretch.
Tom O'Hawke
October 28th, 2011
10:59 pm
moe, you and scoots should play scrabble.
Throw VJ in there, uga, and it could be a pay-for-view event.
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
10:59 pm
tiger, would be a great match. faulkner vs. poe.
richbrave
October 28th, 2011
11:00 pm
FALL BALL
ARIZONA
SURPRISE SAGURROS
1B JOE TERDOSLAVICH [.404 BA] 1-4, 1 2B [4], 2 SO.
C CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT [.350 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 2B [3], 1 HR [2], 3 RBI [8], 2 SO, 1 CS [3]. Great to see him right back in the next game after being taken out with that hand injury last game.
LHSP SEAN GILMARTIN [3.43 ERA] 5.0 IP, 5 H, 1 HR, 2 R/ER, 2 BB, 4 SO, 21 BF…69 p/42 S, 3 GO/ 4 AO.
RHRP BILLY BULLOCK [BS 2, 13.50 ERA] 1.0 IP, 2 H, 3 R/ER, 1 BB, 2 SO, 6 BF…30 p/ 16 S, 0 GO/ 1 AO. BILLY does not appear ready for prime-time at this point.
RHRP J.J. HOOVER [1-1, 12.79 ERA] 1.0 IP, 4 H, 3 R/ER, 0 BB, 0 SO, 7 BF…32 p/ 20 S, 2 GO/ 0 AO. JJ wins the ‘Pin-the-Tail-on-the-Donkey’ award today.
DOMINICA
EASTERN BULLS
1B ‘45′ GOMEZ [.129 BA] 0-4, 1 RBI [2], 2 SO. MAURO has certainly kept his six-shooters holstered this fall.
LF WILKIN RAMIREZ [.238 BA] 1-3, 1 R, 1 HR [1], 1 RBI [3], 1 SO.
LHRP JOSE LUGO [0.00 ERA] 0.2 IP [3.0 IP], 2 SO, 2 BF, 0 GO/ 0 AO. JOSE continues his pristine work thru 5 outings.
ESCOGIDO LIONS
SS/2B DIORY HERNANDEZ [.294 BA] 0-4. 3 SO.
PH/C WILKIN CASTILLO [.238 BA] 0-1.
MEXICO
No BRAVES currently active.
VENEZUELA
ZULIA EAGLES
DH ERNESTO MEJIA [.255 BA] 0-4, 1 SO.
Trey
October 28th, 2011
11:00 pm
Moe, oh. Just keep your head up and keep on movin’ forward.
Trey
October 28th, 2011
11:01 pm
tiger, last week I had to coordinate one that was actually more difficult than most of ‘em, unless four come in for one day.
Moe Berg
October 28th, 2011
11:02 pm
phil–I can’t think all lawyers are bad. I was on the phone all afternoon with mine. And since I am running a nonprofit. It is all pro bono. Even my much more chichi lawyer at a bigshot DC firm is working pro bono. So I can’t complain.
Sorry to come here and vent. Just had some rough things at work this week. (Some of which the DC lawyer should hopefully be able to address.) Then they exploded today. Two somewhat distinct things but beginning to intersect.
Mea culpa for distracting us from the World Series finale.
tiger297
October 28th, 2011
11:04 pm
long day tomorrow of halloween stuff with the little one – I miss living in the sticks where there was only 1 thing to do. There are numerous opportunities to do halloween stuff and the other 1/2 likes to do as many as possible
when its sleepy time down south…
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:05 pm
No need for mea culpa, Moe
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:05 pm
Take care, tiger
Steve from OH
October 28th, 2011
11:06 pm
Moe–as long as they’re not suing me, lawyers are fine!
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:06 pm
gotta say my money is on scoots.
tiger nailed it. scoots with solid quick hitters taking advantage of double lettters and triple letters.
moe, patiently looking for that corner triple word with the Z,X,and Q.
and for good measure we could have BAS as the play by play guy and ward as his color man.
richbrave
October 28th, 2011
11:06 pm
Whoa is me, all because of that cheesy walk to MOLINA that should have been strike three, end of the inning in the fifth.
Trey
October 28th, 2011
11:06 pm
Moe, nothing wrong in your venting. If you need to vent then vent all you want.
Tom O'Hawke
October 28th, 2011
11:07 pm
Sorry to come here and vent.
Vent? You call that venting, Moe? Haven’t you ever seen the in-game blog? (That’s baroque venting!)
TennesseePaul
October 28th, 2011
11:08 pm
Go Cards!
Tom O'Hawke
October 28th, 2011
11:09 pm
… and ward as his color man.
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:11 pm
“Tom O’Hawke
October 28th, 2011
11:07 pm
Sorry to come here and vent.
Vent? You call that venting, Moe? Haven’t you ever seen the in-game blog? (That’s baroque venting!)”
With a capital B!
Moe Berg
October 28th, 2011
11:13 pm
Thank you all. Just back on the phone dealing with some of these work issues. Have to grab some dinner. Never got any lunch.
Trey
October 28th, 2011
11:16 pm
Moe, take it easy and enjoy your weekend.
richbrave
October 28th, 2011
11:17 pm
NYTOL. Pancakes for the grandchildren early in the a.m.
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:18 pm
“baroque venting”
i think tom has coined a phrase. time to trademark it.
Tom O'Hawke
October 28th, 2011
11:19 pm
Moe will be fine. Hell, he’s too smart not to be. Who’d wanna mess with him, you know?
Trey
October 28th, 2011
11:20 pm
I would hate to be the Cardinals fans if for some off chance they ended up losing it with two outs remaining in the ninth.
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:20 pm
Goodnight, rich. Enjoy your morning!
Tom O'Hawke
October 28th, 2011
11:21 pm
uga
Do you think we can remember that until the season starts up again? And Moe has to get 50% of the credit.
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:22 pm
somewhere jerry jones is smiling.
if the mavs and rangers would have both won world championships in the same year, he might of stroked out.
when was the last time the cowboys even won a playoff game?
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:22 pm
And here come the numbers of how far back the Cardinals were in the WC . . . .
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:22 pm
And there it is . . . .
Tom O'Hawke
October 28th, 2011
11:22 pm
CONGRATULATIONS, ST. LOUIS CARDINALS & FANS!!!!
Tom O'Hawke
October 28th, 2011
11:24 pm
How many here are thinking, you know, that could be us?
Deja vu all over again.
Trey
October 28th, 2011
11:25 pm
Congrats St. Louis, even though you only got there because of the Braves collapse.
Efrim
October 28th, 2011
11:26 pm
And there it is . . . .
Which is another reason I wanted them to lose……
Sigh…..Bummer.
Trey
October 28th, 2011
11:26 pm
Tom, I don’t think it could have been us, unfortunately.
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:28 pm
tom, as soon as you tell mixxo he is “baroque venting” it will be like a cat playing with a spool of yarn.
David O'Brien
October 28th, 2011
11:29 pm
Berkman on Sept. 11 after Cardinals completed three-game sweep of Braves to cut wild-card lead to 4-1/2: “We just entered the realm of possibility.”
The lead had been 8-1/2 just six days earlier.
Efrim
October 28th, 2011
11:30 pm
Deja vu all over again.
Yeesh. I’d have an easier time thinking that if we looked half way decent vs. the Phils. Tough matchup for us…
MFin04
October 28th, 2011
11:31 pm
Team of destiny. What a run by the Cardinals. Braves fans got to see this one up close and personal for about 2 months.
Great managing by the Cardinals. One of the best I’ve ever seen.
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:31 pm
I did, too, Efrim. I take little comfort in the thought that the kids they got from the Braves in the Tex trade didn’t work out so well for the Rangers in this WS (at least not Feliz and Harrison). This was a tough WS to deal with. I’m just happy it’s over and the “hot stove” can start!
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:32 pm
efrim, somewhere in the northern subs of atlanta fredo (upside down bucket on top of a broomstick) just tipped his cap for the last time in 2011.
could not of happened without you fredo.
ground_fog
October 28th, 2011
11:32 pm
Does Charlie Manue get a ring? for playing the braves like the world series? lol
Mixxo
October 28th, 2011
11:33 pm
We get rid of Mac, Hanson & Heyward……..
We TOO can savor a championship.
ground_fog
October 28th, 2011
11:33 pm
Seriously, is there anybody sicker than Charlie Manuel now? lol
BFChris27
October 28th, 2011
11:34 pm
Cards OWE Braves big time, they can pay Braves back by trading….
Matt Holliday & Cash for Brandon Hicks & Diory Hernandez
Efrim
October 28th, 2011
11:35 pm
The lead had been 8-1/2 just six days earlier.
Yeah, it’s funny to think about how far they were out of it. That, and an 83 win regular season spun into a World Title in 2006. Simply incredible.
We can’t catch a friggin break the last decade. Braves lose 3 consecutive Game 5’s followed by a classic 18 inning Game 4 loss. Oh well.
I feel bad for the Rangers. Probably were favored both years and just couldn’t get the job done.
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:35 pm
Dob, saw the interview. colby rasmus?
give TLR his due.
Tom O'Hawke
October 28th, 2011
11:35 pm
uga-brave
I gotta tell you, trying to picture Ward doing the color commentary on that scrabble match, had me laughing so hard that I had tears in my eyes.
Even, BAS, has to appreciate that one.
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:37 pm
efrim, what was more painful was you counting it down everyday.
“gotta win 5 before they win 12.” and so on and so on.
dude, you were relentless.
MFin04
October 28th, 2011
11:38 pm
Tony LaRussa…what a managing job. I mean his starters went 3 innings each game and somehow he pulled the right strings night after night with the bullpen and the lineup and got the city of St Louis another championship.
Congrats to Berkman, Freese, Pujols, etc. A bunch of classy guys that just didn’t give up.
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:39 pm
“Efrim
October 28th, 2011
11:35 pm
The lead had been 8-1/2 just six days earlier.
Yeah, it’s funny to think about how far they were out of it. That, and an 83 win regular season spun into a World Title in 2006. Simply incredible.
We can’t catch a friggin break the last decade. Braves lose 3 consecutive Game 5’s followed by a classic 18 inning Game 4 loss. Oh well.
I feel bad for the Rangers. Probably were favored both years and just couldn’t get the job done.”
Considering the Braves history, I’m not crying for the Rangers – you know what I mean?
David O'Brien
October 28th, 2011
11:40 pm
Beginning Aug. 25, Cardinals finished 34-16 and won 12 of 13 series, inc. all three series vs. MIL, both series series vs. PHI, and one series apiece against ATL (sweep) and TEX. Their only series loss in that span was a 1-2 series vs. CIN Sept. 2-4.
Yes, they are deserved champions.
TennesseePaul
October 28th, 2011
11:42 pm
Awesome. Back to back NL champs.
Efrim
October 28th, 2011
11:43 pm
dude, you were relentless.
It was with 32 left, I believe. I remember sitting there just thinking to myself, “geez, we’d pretty much have to go 12-20 to miss out on this thing”. Just simply incredible.
Also, I have not been happy with a World Series champion since the 2005 Chicago White Sox. Ugh…Giants and Cardinals back to back. Awful.
Lee in S GA
October 28th, 2011
11:44 pm
Tony R. is the greatest manger in the our generation and none may ever top him….we need to feel bless just to watch him at his best and he still has years to go if he decides to manage.
MFin04
October 28th, 2011
11:44 pm
So let the David Freese to the Braves rumors begin.
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:45 pm
Freese is the MVP I’m guessing?
Efrim
October 28th, 2011
11:46 pm
ESPN’s Buster Olney says that changes to the draft system being discussed during Collective Bargaining Agreement talks involve a draft tax (Twitter links). It would work similar to the luxury tax, forcing teams to pay if they spend over a certain amount. There is also talk about giving lower revenue clubs additional picks, which some officials perceive to have little value.
Uh, the lower revenue clubs spend more in the draft, Buster. Pirates, Rays and Royals spend just as much as the Yankees and Red Sox. How about giving teams that refuse to spend on the draft additional picks? Braves, Philles, White Sox, Astros….
Soph
October 28th, 2011
11:46 pm
Congrats to Berkman. You’re the only one I like.
David O'Brien
October 28th, 2011
11:47 pm
Rafael Furcal has played in nine of the past 12 postseasons, and now has his first World Series ring.
Efrim
October 28th, 2011
11:48 pm
So let the David Freese to the Braves rumors begin.
I’d sell high on Craig, if I were them.
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:49 pm
The fact that LaRussa and Belichick are friends just scares me for some reason. I don’t like either of them, that’s probably why.
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:50 pm
david freese had 19 postseason rbi. our cleanup guy had 21 after the all star break.
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:51 pm
“Efrim
October 28th, 2011
11:48 pm
So let the David Freese to the Braves rumors begin.
I’d sell high on Craig, if I were them.”
No kidding. Who the hell is that guy?!
Tom O'Hawke
October 28th, 2011
11:51 pm
Ron Washington has now lost 2 straight World Series.
I’m betting that Robert’s next comment on his, Bobby Cox-sponsored-BB Ref.com-page, will have a correlation of those 2 Rangers’ losses to Bobby in it.
MFin04
October 28th, 2011
11:52 pm
Hope Albert stays in St Louis. Guy is a class act. Best there is in baseball on and off the field. Great guy.
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:54 pm
And Carlos Beltran did what in the post-season and then signed a mega deal and did what (when he wasn’t injured) during that contract? Signing or trading for anyone on the basis of a great post-season isn’t always a great idea.
Efrim
October 28th, 2011
11:54 pm
I hope we get to where the Cardinals are some day. Heck, I’ll take getting to where the Rangers are.
Actually, scratch all of that. Just get me a postseason series victory. 2001 was a long time ago.
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:55 pm
tom, seems like we have the same warped sense of humor.
BAS doing his keith jackson, and well ward.
Lee in S GA
October 28th, 2011
11:56 pm
Hope Albert stays in St Louis. Guy is a class act. Best there is in baseball on and off the field. Great guy.
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Great player and the fans in St Louis may be the best in baseball…this team really deserved this W.S. win.
tiger297
October 28th, 2011
11:56 pm
be happy cardinals fans tomorrow you get to awake with your team as the World Series champions
just remember I still win because tomorrow when I wake up I’ll still be an Atlanta Braves Fan
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:57 pm
efrim , please tell me you agree that we need a middle of the order guy that aint a catcher.
Soph
October 28th, 2011
11:57 pm
Aww, Washington looks so sad.
MIBravesFan
October 28th, 2011
11:58 pm
tiger – what was theirs tonight could very well be the Braves a year from now!
uga-brave
October 28th, 2011
11:59 pm
so what are the odds that tony, albert and tony’s ego go chase that ring in chigago?
Trey
October 28th, 2011
11:59 pm
Washington is definitely a classy guy. I wish we could have him as our manager.
Venice Jim
October 29th, 2011
12:01 am
Midnight – time for most of you East Coast people to leave the blog to Tom and uga…
Tom O'Hawke
October 29th, 2011
12:01 am
just remember I still win because tomorrow when I wake up I’ll still be an Atlanta Braves Fan
tiger — Just as Trey fondly said about Mitchell, last night; “could be worse”
I thought you went to sleep?
uga-brave
October 29th, 2011
12:03 am
is their a worse commish then BUD SELIG. reading off the paper. really?
Efrim
October 29th, 2011
12:03 am
please tell me you agree that we need a middle of the order guy that aint a catcher.
I’m actually okay with it. I just think we need more consistent production in 2012 from Heyward, Prado and Uggla. But I mean, of course we could use another middle of the order bat. I think the Braves were hoping Heyward was going to be that guy.
MIBravesFan
October 29th, 2011
12:04 am
Especially when we have a Noon kickoff! Not that I’m going, mind you, but it annoys the heck out of me that MSU and Nebraska is a Noon kickoff – that’s 11:00 am in Nebraska, isn’t it?!
Efrim
October 29th, 2011
12:05 am
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/free-agency-period-will-begin-october-30th-1.html
uga-brave
October 29th, 2011
12:08 am
efrim, really?
think about what guys in the middle do for you?
just like bonds, albert is pitched around late.
sheff and tex were the last guys we had like that.
we hit dingers this season, but we were last in BASEBALL in doubles.
Tomas
October 29th, 2011
12:11 am
I hate the Cardinals, but admit they are deserved winners
MIBravesFan
October 29th, 2011
12:12 am
The Cardinals earned it, no doubt.
Trey
October 29th, 2011
12:12 am
Ug, they’re talking about the NBA lockout. Just release all those overpaid bums and bring some young, fresh players in there. “Cheap” labor.
Snotboogie
October 29th, 2011
12:19 am
The fact that LaRussa and Belichick are friends just scares me for some reason. I don’t like either of them, that’s probably why.
I think Bob Knight is good friends with TLR too.
uga-brave
October 29th, 2011
12:21 am
well snot, is it because they all win?
Snotboogie
October 29th, 2011
12:24 am
Possibly uga.Like winning a lot and very begrudgingly accept that they need people to do that.
uga-brave
October 29th, 2011
12:25 am
dont get why you guys hate the cardinals?
it aint like the phill’s when they were mgd. by bowa
it aint like the mets when they were mgd. by Bobby V.
we play guys in our division 18 times.
we played The world champions six times and lost FIVE.
uga-brave
October 29th, 2011
12:27 am
0-9 down the stretch against philly and st. louis.
MIBravesFan
October 29th, 2011
12:30 am
“Snotboogie
October 29th, 2011
12:19 am
The fact that LaRussa and Belichick are friends just scares me for some reason. I don’t like either of them, that’s probably why.
I think Bob Knight is good friends with TLR too.
LinkReport this comment.uga-brave
October 29th, 2011
12:21 am
well snot, is it because they all win?”
That doesn’t necessarily make people like each other. Sometimes quite the opposite. Maybe that they’re all combative, do-anything-to-win personality types who are not in the same game?
MIBravesFan
October 29th, 2011
12:39 am
sorry – same sports league