Heyward’s latest MRI shows no issues with spine
Braves right fielder Jason Heyward had an MRI that ruled out any issues with his cervical spine, and he will be placed on a “maintenance and stretching program” to strengthen his right shoulder, the team said. No surgery is required.
Heyward spent 3-1/2 weeks on the disabled list in May and June for rotator-cuff inflammation in his right shoulder, which bothered him beginning late in spring training. He has had two MRI exams on the shoulder which showed no structural damage.
Heyward had the most recent MRI Thursday to see if there was anything spinal-related that was causing lingering soreness in the back of his shoulder, in order to give him peace of mind entering the offseason before he begins his workout regimen.
The NL rookie of the year runner-up in 2010, Heyward struggled in his second season and spent time on the bench in August. He hit .227 with 34 extra-base hits, 42 RBIs and a .319 on-base percentage in 128 games, down from .277 with 52 extra-base hits, 72 RBIs and a .393 OBP in 142 games as a rookie.
Braves general manager Frank Wren said two days after the season ended that Heyward would not be guaranteed a starting job next spring.
“He’s going to be in a battle unless he continues to progress at a good rate,” Wren said at that time, noting that Heyward made progress working on the adjustments the Braves asked him to make in his swing in the season’s final two months.
“He’s going to be in a battle for a position. It’s not a given he’s our right fielder. We’re going to go into the offseason planning with it in mind that we’ve got to have offensive production from right field. And we didn’t get that.”
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Bama Brave
October 10th, 2011
7:59 pm
first!
Larry Parrish
October 10th, 2011
8:00 pm
First
glorydays (from SF)
October 10th, 2011
8:18 pm
not
glorydays (from SF)
October 10th, 2011
8:20 pm
It’s great watching our Braves competing for a WS; unfortunately they are wearing a Rangers uniform. Where would the Rangers be without John S and his “I want to cement my legacy” trade?
DaveinNEPA
October 10th, 2011
8:22 pm
The fact that Heyward felt it necessary to have another MRI on his shoulder sort of confirms my suspicions that the shoulder was bothering him during the second half of the season as well.
I noticed the overhand loop in his swing all season. That would tell me the the shoulder of his front hand was not allowing him to swing level through the ball.
I hope he can put this issue behind him and give the Braves the production that he’s been projected in the future.
Despite what many here on the blogs have stated, I still think Heyward is a keeper.
BosnianBaller
October 10th, 2011
9:39 pm
I think it’s interesting to see how Heyward works this off-season.Let’s see if the dedication to learn and be better will be there and the drive to be great.
McCmann and Aqua Hoss
October 10th, 2011
9:50 pm
man man man man man….
Send him to MEXICO! It’ll give him a bunch of at-bats against lefties
Web Masters
October 10th, 2011
10:46 pm
No, the spine issue is in the front office.
MBrave
October 11th, 2011
12:40 am
I’ve known HS and college players who were told by orthopedic surgeons to eliminate the head first slide after shoulder dislocations. Heyward injured his shoulder in each of his MLB seasons by sliding head first. He really needs to stop the practice. His shoulders won’t hold up, and his healthy presence is more important than the occasional head first slide.
Kurt Lucas
October 11th, 2011
2:13 am
sure wish chipper would give up his “career”(whatever he thinks is left of it) just like he does when he goes to the dl for any little injury. he sucked on both sides of the ball last year, this year, and soon to be…next year. also if every braves fan forgot he is the one who rushed heyward back by acting like he knew how to manage injuries and get back healthy. especially when we did have a huge lead and were getting production-a-plenty out of constanza. chipper you were the reason i kept liking the braves even after they left tbs but really man, you’re going to drag out your career like this. still my favorite but seriously help the braves, retire and make some deal with him to pay him the rest of his money spread out over the next few years and help the organization that way.
David O'Brien
October 11th, 2011
4:56 am
sure wish chipper would give up his “career”(whatever he thinks is left of it) just like he does when he goes to the dl for any little injury. he sucked on both sides of the ball last year, this year, and soon to be…next year. also if every braves fan forgot he is the one who rushed heyward back by acting like he knew how to manage injuries and get back healthy. especially when we did have a huge lead and were getting production-a-plenty out of constanza. chipper you were the reason i kept liking the braves even after they left tbs but really man, you’re going to drag out your career like this. still my favorite but seriously help the braves, retire and make some deal with him to pay him the rest of his money spread out over the next few years and help the organization that way. — Kurt Lucas
“Still my favorite”? When I read that I had to stop and read it again to make sure I actually read it correctly.
I don’t know, maybe it’s just me but it seems pretty obvious whom your favorite is from this rant.
By the way, Heyward’s DL stint — and Chipper’s comment — came before Constanza was even on the team.
Obee
October 11th, 2011
6:01 am
Wow, you’re commenting on this blog at 4:56 am? Good grief, get some sleep. We depend on you too much.
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
7:50 am
Chipper still contributes a lot to the team and HIS salary isn’t anywhere near as big a deal as OTHER contracts that we’re either getting shut of this off-season, stuck with for another year, or buying the last year out, so stop going off on the guy!
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
8:01 am
If you wanna be blunt about the comments Chipper made about Heyward not playing with a “sore” shoulder: A 22 year old with an athletic body is a wuss if he can’t play baseball with some shoulder soreness. Somebody needed to say it, and I think the MRI was just a way of getting out of some of the criticism. We all knew they weren’t gonna find anything. I think Heyward’s lousy year is symptomatic of a stubborn young man who wouldn’t listen to coaching and work on correcting flaws in his swing that were magnified by the fact that the second time around, THERE WAS A SCOUTING REPORT ON HIM!
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
8:15 am
I agree with the previous comment about head first slides, too much at stake and too much money involved nowadays, coaching staff ought to implement mandatory feet first sliding rule
Lobosolo
October 11th, 2011
8:20 am
Bravesfansince80s, I assume you speak from experience?… Didn’t think so… Even in the off-season, the armchairs just gotta spew their self-appointed expertise… What is it about you yah-boes? Are you mad at the guy for being hurt?… REALLY???… You piss-and-moaners not only think you’re experts on how to play and manage the game, but also think you’re some kind of orthopedic geniuses? From your ARMCHAIRS???… C’mon Man, you’re really not that stupid, are you?… Stupid question, I suppose… Man, if they paid baseball salaries to constant whiners, you yokels would all be in the major leagues… Is there ANYTHING about the Braves that you don’t have to cry about???
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
8:27 am
really didn’t think the tone of anything I’ve said this morning fell under that category and I would wager a large sum of money that I’ve forgotten more baseball than you’ll ever know, twerp
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
8:33 am
besides all that, if Heyward were REALLY hurt, where’s the evidence? hmmm?
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
8:44 am
lobosolo? lobosolo? hmm?
Mike
October 11th, 2011
8:44 am
What is he singling him out? I hope it’s for nothing but offseason motivation … because he could have easily pointed at the extended lack of production from SS, LF, C, and 2nd base (although 2nd is unwarranted after the all-star break)
LF was in the same position as RF … never the same after an injury.
SS can’t hit and was a guaranteed double play with runners on ..
C was the same as LF and RF post injury … but he’s singling out RF. I’m just thinking it’s to motivate the guy.
Mike
October 11th, 2011
8:46 am
*Why is he singling him out …
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
8:50 am
anybody else on the team copping out to a mysterious injury that medical science can find no evidence of?
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
9:00 am
correction: the original medical tests run earlier in the year did find a small amount of inflammation in the shoulder. anybody who swings a baseball bat as much as an MLB player SHOULD have a little inflammation in their shoulders, especially early in the year, it’s an unnatural action for the body, ever wonder why pitchers’ arms fall off after so many years of doing a very unnatural act with it for so long?
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
9:05 am
the point that Lobosolo seemed to miss is this: send Heyward to work with a block foundation laying crew for a few weeks and then ask him how his shoulder feels. guarantee you there are TONS of hard-working blue collar guys all across this nation of ours who would gladly swing a baseball bat with a tight shoulder for the kind of money that MLB players make even at the league minimum. now if the injury were severe enough to actually find it in testing and dr’s were able to diagnose a real problem, I’m all for letting the guy take as much time as he needs to get the problem fixed and get back into action. but until I see a real injury, I’m calling “wuss” on this one!
Casey
October 11th, 2011
9:06 am
How many MRI’s or tests is Heyward going to go through before we concede he’s just not that good?
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
9:09 am
Casey: ha! great comment!
Kirk
October 11th, 2011
9:10 am
@bravesfansince80s , When does your book come out?
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
9:17 am
Kirk: production has been slowed by extended editing on yours
Lobosolo
October 11th, 2011
9:42 am
I’m back, for just a moment, bravesfan… My self-appointed expertise tells me what others have noted… I concur…. YOU ARE THAT STUPID… stupid crackuhs like you would be used to laying foundations since you’ve probably done it since you dropped out of high school… I get it now… you thought you were a pretty good player at one time, but just couldn’t hack it in school… dropped out to tote cement… tried to make it on the local American Legion team, but couldn’t hack it there and got asked to leave… now you’re mad at Heyward because, by golly, HE DID MAKE IT!!! Hahahaha… too, bad, braveswhinersinceyoucrappedout… YOU REALLY ARE THAT STUPID!
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
9:46 am
I am a college graduate who worked his way through school doing everything from welding to “toting cement” as you put it. Try it sometime, it might improve your disposition.
extremus
October 11th, 2011
9:54 am
Hmm, based on how they played during September I wonder if any of the Braves even HAVE a spine.
Joey
October 11th, 2011
9:56 am
I hope the Braves own a MRI machine. Maybe they should just put it in the damn dugout so in between innings, the players can get a quick one when they “feel something.”
Overpaid wusses.
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
10:00 am
agreed Joey
Dr. Phil
October 11th, 2011
10:01 am
Perhaps Wren could work out a Heyward trade with the Texas Rangers since we are their farm team.
Chi Town
October 11th, 2011
10:02 am
Heyward sucks.
Regret buying his jersey last year. Waste of $.
Matt the Brave
October 11th, 2011
10:04 am
Gee, giant surprise. Heyward’s shoulder is still not right. Could have told you that from the way he was swinging.
EJ
October 11th, 2011
10:05 am
Jason is indeed one of the reason why I contiune to watch the Braves. But people continue to ask why he’s been singled out instead of the other. Well its simple he is the “other” as in race. Jason is a black male were many blacks live in ATL. He would be a reason more blacks would come to a game. But being treated like this in the south by fools who knows nothing about the game is killing me. He and M. Bourn are the only blacks on the team, thank God Wren is not trading him. It was obvious his shoulder was hurting, and he is still a francise guy, so why killin him after one bad year. I know he will bounce back and when he does dont be a cowboy tring to jump on his back then.
bill
October 11th, 2011
10:08 am
Heyward has another MRI (that makes three) on his shoulder for a boost to his confidence. He thinks it might be spinal. What the hell he is just 21 and he needs reassurance about his body and most of all his spine. I smell hypochondriac. The more I hear the worse I feel about him. Hopefully I am wrong. Please God let me be my usual dumbass self since I am still not over the debacle in September but i am cautiously optimistic.
nashvillewill
October 11th, 2011
10:08 am
Heyward has a lot to work on, mechanically: his swing is too top-hand, his stance is set too far from the plate, his trigger mechanism timing is off, his ready position is arriving too late. At least he doesn’t dive in like Freeman, who also needs to work some in the off season or he will be in Heyward’s position after HIS first year. Also, Prado looked terrible after his injury, McCann was awful after his DL, and Uggla had one good month out of six. Braves MUST find help in OF, SS, and a new bench. A veteran pitcher to replace DLowe at 1/3 the salary would not hurt. Hopefully, with bullpen rookies next year Venters and Kimbrel won’t pitch in half the games played. 60 appearances is enough.
By the way, FIRE FG. His (mis)management of the team is apparent.
Joey
October 11th, 2011
10:09 am
Jeez, the race card . . .
Thanks for that on a baseball blog, EJ (Al Sharpton)
Beauvighn
October 11th, 2011
10:15 am
I just dont think heyward is very tough physically or mentally. Its obvious he was not injured. There is a difference between being hurt and injured. Heyward needs to get tougher mentally more than anything over the off season….As for the lack of a spine problem….I want even begin to touch that one
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
10:16 am
Heyward has been singled out here because he’s the only one out of SEVERAL braves everyday players who had lousy years that is trying to blame it on a mysterious, undiagnosable shoulder injury. I can’t believe the race card was pulled here, baseball fans don’t see the color of an athlete’s skin as a defining characteristic, that’s ridiculous and small in scope. Some of my all-time favorite Braves are African-American, just ridiculous, please, the race card?
Bobby cerasuolo
October 11th, 2011
10:16 am
I say fire Parrish first of all tell Chipper to go home and let us build around McCann Heyward and Freeman, Trade Hanson becuase I have a feeling hes gonna be the Chipper Jones of the rotation. Send Lowe to NYY thats the only team i see him being traded too. Trade Hanson and Prado to Fla for Bonfiacio make him our 3B resign Wilson and use him and Pastornicky at SS and maybe trade for a LF like Rowand from SF or have Richardson Constanza and Gartretll fight for the job in Spring Training.
Heisenberg
October 11th, 2011
10:16 am
Ban the head first slide for the whole team. Whenever someone does it in a game, immediately remove them and fine them. That being said, I disagree with the stupid analogy used by announcers about you never see a head first slide at the end of the 100 meter dash. The track is paved. A head first slide on a paved surface will result in some serious road rash. A head first slide in dirt will result in a dirty uniform and mabe a skinned elbow. You will get to the base faster head first but it is not worth the injury risk.
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
10:17 am
Beau: Amen!
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
10:19 am
uh Bobby whoever you are, they fired Parrish several days ago man
Waldo
October 11th, 2011
10:32 am
Here is a news flash for some of you Heyward lovers. Just because the guy can’t swing doesn’t mean his shoulder hurts. He picked up some bad habits somewhere along the line while reading blogs about how good he was and hasn’t been able to or is incapable of breaking these habits. Now his little feelings are hurt because for the First time in his life he is Not being told how great he is. This puts him at a very important cross road. He can pout and act like a child and feel sorry for himself or he can drop a set, work hard, put it behind him and be the player we want him to be. This is a very important offseason for for the J-Hey kid.
It’s scary how much like Francouer this whole situation is. It is not a black and white issue.
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
10:37 am
Waldo: best comment so far! Great point!
Realist
October 11th, 2011
10:51 am
Would be a lot better if they DID find something wrong with his shoulder; maybe they could fix it. If he is truly healthy, then he sucks, and none of us wants to believe that.
Joey
October 11th, 2011
10:52 am
I, for one think that Heyward will figure it out. I’m pulling for it.
And I wasn’t piling on him when I wrote about the MRI machine. We all know who leads the free world in X-ray and MRI tests . . .
Kentavo
October 11th, 2011
10:54 am
Note to everyone: Although Hewyard didn’t spend much time in the minors, he did spend time on the DL every stop along the way and got shut down in AFL too; he is simply going to be that kind of player
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
11:03 am
hmm, didn’t realize there was already a history developing there, that’s not good, maybe we should trade him sometime early next season if he shows some promise and we think we can get something of serious value for him? I’m like a previous commenter, the more I hear the less impressed I become…
TechRon
October 11th, 2011
11:03 am
Glad Heyward is going to be ok. Trade him while he still has significant value. Fire the whole coaching staff. Keep all pitchers except Lowe. Consider every other player for trade in order to get some bats in this lineup. Look at the Texas Rangers hitters and you will see a hitting lineup. Our people do not begin to compare. Face it, we need big changes if we are going to be more than a “pretty good” team.
@jarvis
October 11th, 2011
11:14 am
TechRon, his value is no longer significant on the market.
Ozzie
October 11th, 2011
11:16 am
Heyward has an abnormally low amount of cartilage between each vertebrae in his back. His first set of MRIs revealed that.
Every year and more so if he bulks up will make that condition a source of pain and DL time. In other words he is destined to have back issues his as he ages.
While I like him and feel 2011 was an aberration of sorts I say trade him before the realities of his back come to pass.
He once would have commanded the moon in a trade not today. He does have enough juice re: trade value to land a impact player especially if people thing it was poor coaching/management that put him in this mess in the first place.
I would trade him in a package for Kemp
if such a deal could be arranged. Fantasy I know….
Brave New World
October 11th, 2011
11:16 am
It’s good news to Braves’ fans that J-Hey is ok. It’s only bad news to J-haters.
bravos fan
October 11th, 2011
11:20 am
ignorant “fans”, i’m glad a lot of you aren’t gm… the braves would be headed nowhere fast. let the front office do their job, and keep your thoughts to yourself.
bravos fan
October 11th, 2011
11:24 am
before this past year kemp was known as a selfish player who gave half effort most of the time, and one year later he is the answer to our prayers? one year changes everything. give the 22 year kid a chance to prove his worth. there’s way too much young talent on this team to give up. the braves need chip, and some salary help with lowe. sorry derek, but we all know the situation. thanks for giving it your all, and hopefully you can turn it around this year… on another team.
dap01
October 11th, 2011
11:25 am
Why don’t people spend their time wishing Lowe would retire and lay off Chipper. Chipper is under contract. Chipper is our most clutch hitter. Chipper is still productive.
We have no production from LF or RF. How many years in a row can we have a weak OF?
Justafan
October 11th, 2011
11:29 am
Thanks DOB for your up-dates…
Hire GREG Walker and let him start now working with J-Hey… I believe Heyward can turn it around with right help. Greg can help..
Skeezix
October 11th, 2011
11:30 am
It is striking how many ex Braves (some from our farm system) are in the playoffs. It seems like I keep seeing them everywhere.
Still so glad the Cards shut up the Phillies. Now I hope they keep pounding on and then shut up the Brewers.
FBGuy
October 11th, 2011
11:31 am
Geez. Waldo seems to know what Heyward reads and thinks about. Amazing insights from someone who doesn’t know Heyward at all. Bobby has a basket of trade proposals that won’t happen. And Ozzie apparently has all the medical info although he is unable to spell correctly. There’s a heap ‘o blather here. Only Bravos Fan has it right, I suspect.
CS
October 11th, 2011
11:33 am
Go ahead and make another Jerome Dye mistake!
Justafan
October 11th, 2011
11:37 am
Kurt Lucas comments were from his rage of Braves losing..don’t believe it had to do with Constanza although he called his name.. he was just mad because Braves didn’t make play-offs..I believe. He was dead wrong on Chipper..He had a good year and played as much as most of the other players. Chipper is the man..Mr Brave!..Even when he does retire..I hope Braves hire him as a coach are something to do with Braves.
Thanks again DOB.
Turd Ferguson
October 11th, 2011
11:39 am
Sorry Bravesfansincethe80s… I’m like a previous commenter, the more I hear YOU talk the less impressed I become.
chc4
October 11th, 2011
11:39 am
So basically Heyward’s season was wrecked by a shoulder injury that doesn’t seem to exist. That’s comforting. A “maintenance and stretching program?” Sounds like Jason is soft and the org knows it.
Boo
October 11th, 2011
11:40 am
It’s an Atlanta thing! We SUCK when it comes to professional sports teams!
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
11:42 am
bravos fan: everyone, including you (unfortunately) has a right to their opinion. if you don’t like what you hear, go somewhere else, it’s a free country last time I checked (minus the Hank Jr. debacle)
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
11:44 am
turd? where do I even begin, jeez…
Brick Nelson
October 11th, 2011
12:01 pm
Chipper will come back stronger next year and Heyward will improve. Heyward critics keep forgetting he as a strong arm and threw out a few at home plate. Heyward will also come back strong.
Jack
October 11th, 2011
12:03 pm
All these whiners need to report to Maynard G Krebs and Cheek and Chong at Occupy Atlanta
james
October 11th, 2011
12:09 pm
iam tired of hearing u white guy say gee not the race card again if u look back in the last 20 yrs every black braves star either have been traded r released ak dye justice so on look what your boy chipper did have a child out outside his marriage and u guys turn your head and say poor chipper if he was black they would have traded his as like they should have 10yrs ago
JB
October 11th, 2011
12:09 pm
bravesfansince80s – get a life. and while you’re at it, get checked for obsessive compulsive disorder. posting repeatedly in the span of a few minutes throughout the day is not healthy.
Oh, btw, the “Hank Jr. debacle” in fact proves it’s a free country. ESPN, a private organization, is FREE to choose whatever song they want for the MNF intro. Thanks for confirming that your idiocy isn’t limited to baseball.
@EJ
October 11th, 2011
12:11 pm
Get out of here with your sad, pathetic opinion that nobody cares about. The problem with the Braves has nothing to do with race. We know you rode the pine in highschool so you’re great at crying and pretending to know the game.
Jack
October 11th, 2011
12:13 pm
james
October 11th, 2011
12:09 pm
These whiners are not prejudiced against Black players……………Chipper is supporting the child, but basically these whiners hate all the Braves when they are losing and loves em when they are winning. LOL It just baseball fans in general imo
Really?
October 11th, 2011
12:13 pm
James, you seriously need to go back to school and learn some grammar and punctuation. You also need to stop playing the race card. It gets really old.
Heyward is what is known as a malingerer and no amount of coaching is going to remedy that. I’m becoming more and more convinced that, barring an attitude adjustment, his MLB career will be short-lived.
Vince
October 11th, 2011
12:13 pm
So, the spine MRI came out negative. I thought it was Gonzales that was spineless! BWAAHAHAHAH……
Jason C.
October 11th, 2011
12:25 pm
“Heyward had an MRI that ruled out any issues with his cervical spine”…as opposed to what other spine???
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
12:26 pm
JB, i was tending to my two sons (both under the age of three) this morning during all the posts, so I had time to check the blog periodically. What a weird thing to point out anyway, jeez, go to one of our MLB blogs if you think that’s odd, those people talk to each other all day long on there….
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
12:28 pm
wasn’t weighing in on the Hank Jr. thing anyway, just think it’s sad that nobody in the public eye can speak their true feelings anymore without somebody getting upset about it, whether what he said was right or wrong or whatever…
coach13
October 11th, 2011
12:31 pm
I’m expecting essentially the same team return for 2012, would that be correct Dave? I don’t know of any money freeing up this year unless they can move Lowe but I can’t imagine anyone taking him and all of that contract. It’s too bad though. Think of what they could get with Lowe and Chipper’s money.
They are going to need another SS pretty soon, a 3b (if they feel Prado is not the long term answer) and a big hitting OF.
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
12:33 pm
LET’S GO METS!!!! WOW BLAME IT ALL ON J-HEY!!!!!! LOL
Sloan
October 11th, 2011
12:33 pm
What did the MRI on his swing reveal?
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
12:35 pm
CITI FIELD= 2 WORLD SERIES BANNERS
TURD FIELD= 1 WORLD SERIES BANNER
LET’S GO METS!!!
john
October 11th, 2011
12:35 pm
Chipper’s a joke.
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
12:37 pm
silly thing to say braveschoke, nobody on here is blaming it all on Heyward, the above article is about Heyward’s latest MRI results, so we’re talking about Heyward, why does that automatically mean we’re all blaming the collapse on him? He actually picked up and hit a LITTLE better during sept. than most of the team….
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
12:38 pm
SILLY THING TO SAY BRAVES CHOKE????? REALLY
coach13
October 11th, 2011
12:41 pm
James- so the BRaves are racist?? 2/3 of their roster is Hispanic. There is way too much money to be made and too many jobs on the line to be a racist in professional sports. Chipper was drafted by the Braves and has put up HOF numbers. Getting a girl pregnant is not against the law. He’s restructured contracts to free up money and if my memory serves me correct has never been arrested, been a discipline issue, or a locker room distraction in his 15 years with the ogranization.
Guys that either bring baggage with them or create baggage become expendable even if they are producing. Just because a guy comes in and produces for 2-3 years (whether he’s black or not) doesn’t guarentee him a long term contract with that team. In many cases, guys who are high maintenance, locker room distraction types usually bounce around every couple of years and are used as trade bait.
BubbaDaBaller
October 11th, 2011
12:41 pm
They “missed” with the MRI…shoulda gone higher and checked in between his ears…”Hello, is there anybody in there?”
Pat McGroin
October 11th, 2011
12:44 pm
How ironic for braveschoke to use that name considering they are known throughout the league as being the biggest under achievers (especially given the bloated salary) and worst closers down the stretch year in, year out for the past decade. LOL Hey bravesfansince80s, eat another bowl of pasta!
Pat McGroin
October 11th, 2011
12:45 pm
The Mets – that is…
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
12:47 pm
@GROIN WILL YOU NEED A CALCULATOR????? LOL
CITI FIELD= 2 WORLD SERIES BANNERS
TURD FIELD= 1 WORLD SERIES BANNER
LET’S GO METS!!!
Lobosolo
October 11th, 2011
12:50 pm
Wow, bravescrybabysincewashingoutofeverything,.. you seem to get stupider and stupider as the day wears on… whether you are in the middle of one of your perpetual blubbers or in another of your perpetual blathers about things you have no clue about, you’re just plain old D-U-M-B… even your Hank Williams statement was stupid as it gets… go back to night school, Man… it’s never too late to gain some semblance of lucidity… and you, Really? where did you scour up your information? Sounds like you think you share the other whiners’ ability to diagnose things from the seat of your armchair…. DO you idiots ever stop to read yourselves? It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad… God help your young’uns… SMH…..
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
12:51 pm
LET’S GO MET’S!!!!!!!!
eastbound and down
October 11th, 2011
12:51 pm
bravesfansince80s glad to know you are capable of babysitting. u must be at home while the wife takes care of making the $$$. don’t spend too much time with them, though. they don’t need to share your screwed up views. By the way, looks to me like you were blogging while checking the kids periodically
Pat McGroin
October 11th, 2011
12:57 pm
@MetsGuidoFan: Did ya mothah make a bowl of macaroni today for her big boy? If you was paying attention at your school PS Numbah 9, maybe yuz can read dis heah article http://bleacherreport.com/articles/225618-mets-bad-smell-starts-at-the-top
Ay oh!
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
12:57 pm
@EASTBOUND AND DOWN PLEASE KEEP KIDS OUT OF THE CONVERSATION. LET’S KEEP IT FUN IN HERE
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
12:59 pm
@GROIN YOU SEEM UPSET
YO ADRIAN!
October 11th, 2011
1:02 pm
@www.braveschoke.com: So, nothing has been happening for such a long time for the Mets that you waste time searching for division rival blogs while living with your parents for the productive purpose of trolling? LOL You must be some catch!
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
1:02 pm
yeah really, absolutely no reason to start in on my parenting skills and children for any reason, total lack of class and braveschoke I meant that we weren’t blaming it all on Heyward, wasn’t saying the braves didn’t choke at the end of this season, I’m with you on most everything else
Strom Boli
October 11th, 2011
1:05 pm
Yo…. ahhh I just donts knows whats ta think about braveschoke… yo you live neah Flushing like me? Dey say sometin in da watah makes us sounds like retahds but ahhhh I ain’t nevah noticed anyting like dat!
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
1:07 pm
oh and east bound: I have a “work from home” job, plus taking care of my two kids, plus a part-time job in the evenings, my wife teaches school during the day, we live in a rural area where daycare is limited and VERY expensive so f—- you and the horse you rode in on!
basstringerfish
October 11th, 2011
1:07 pm
I remember playing in the 80’s before MRI’s and such and I had an issue in my back behind my right shoulder blade that no one could detect. It took every bit of my power from throwing and altered my swing. I had orthopedics look at me, trainers, etc…and all they could find was a knot they tried to massage out before games…I had a coach who thought I was just making excuses – fortunately he was fired mid way through the season. It only got better with rest as I sat over the winter, it never got better while I was playing. I was able to throw just enough to play 1B and hit enough base hits to stay in the line up, but zero power. I imagine today it would be noticed and identified, but it was the weirdest injury I ever had in the 15 years I played. Until you are in the players shoes you can not comment on what a person should or should not do or if they are a wimp or not…some injuries hurt like the dickens, but you can power through them, others you can not.
Having said all this, it was very obvious to most observers that he had a hole in his swing from year one and he did not or could not make the adjustment…I agree with a lot of folks, the kid is a talent…he is young…this was in essence a minor league year that he had in the bigs…he should not be summarily dismissed…but by the same token, it will be completely up to him as to how he fixes that swing and it will be interesting to see if in fact this shoulder thing was the root cause of him not making the adjustments – or was it in fact stubborness or a hard habit to break? I do not want to see him in Mexico…he needs to rehab and then hit from a tee then in the cage…drive those pitches in on his feet and work through the problem…he is not alone in this…look at Uggla, Prado, etc…how does the kid respond??? I bet he does fine…
will36206
October 11th, 2011
1:08 pm
DOB, do you think the Braves front office would consider interviewing Brian McCann’s father for the hitting coach job?
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
1:10 pm
@ROCKY I GUESS FACTS DO NOT MATTER TO YOU, WHEN THE ATLANTA BRAVES ADD ANOTHER WORLD SERIES BANNER TO YOUR STADIUM THEN YOU WILL BE ON OUR LEVEL!!!!!!! BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU CAN NOT RELY ON A 2ND YR GUY TO CARRY YOUR OUTFIELD. SUCK IT UP AND LET THE KID DEVELOP, WE ALL WISH WE HAD AN ALBERT PUJOLS ON OUR TEAMS!!!!!
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
1:14 pm
Yo mommy, wheah’s my bowl of macaroni?
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
1:19 pm
basstringerfish: if that’s true in Heyward’s case, why can’t all the advances in modern medicine find anything wrong with him? Somebody else said he had a smaller amount of cartiledge or some such thing, but this lates MRI came back finding nothing wrong with him. I’m with you as long as there really is something wrong with him, but this seams to point towards more of a flawed swing and a coverup moreso than a real injury problem.
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
1:19 pm
Look, I was just kidding with you… yes, the Braves have had some down years lately, but with all the turmoil my Mets have had between an owner getting taken by Madoff, our bloated salaries and season-ending slumps over the past decade and our attempts to compete with the bigger, successful and much more professional team over in the Bronx, we can’t say a thing about another team.
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
1:21 pm
I GUESS I SPEAK THE TRUTH AND OTHERS HAVE TO STEAL MY SCREEN NAME….LOL…..CLASSIC FOLLOWER!!!!!!
Mark (another one)
October 11th, 2011
1:28 pm
I for one like a lineup with Heyward in RF. I know it was an offensive hole last season but I don’t think that will be his future. Heyward is a five tool outfielder and is only 22. He had a rough season, and it might have been better for him to be sent to the minors to work it out. However, the Braves kept him in the majors, worked with him and there was progress towards the end of the year.
Also, if Heyward thought he had a health issue and didn’t bring it to the FO’s attention, he would be wrong and stupid. He’s neither. He got his spine checked out and is cleared for ‘maintenance and stretching’. That’s the smart move. Get healthy and feeling good in the off season, and go have fun next season being productive in all facets of the game.
My belief is that the fielding core of this team is Heyward, Bourn, Prado, Freeman, Uggla and McCann for the long term. For next season we probably have Chipper but not much longer. We also have SS to worry about as Gonzalez is a FA. Prado is slated as the replacement for Chipper but it might be good to get a power outfielder to compete for LF and some SS experience for 2012.
Flo-Rio-Duh
October 11th, 2011
1:29 pm
Heyward is a failure of management.
Flo-Rio-Duh
October 11th, 2011
1:30 pm
Georgia has played weak offenses the last four weeks. Let’s see how they do against Florida before saying their defense has arrived.
basstringerfish
October 11th, 2011
1:31 pm
Enter your comments here
www.braveschoke.com
October 11th, 2011
1:32 pm
@ MARK, THAT MAKES SENSE YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE CORE TOGETHER.
Juan
October 11th, 2011
1:35 pm
It’s Heyward Helath issue as the same of The Legendary Roberto Clemente?
Clemente complain all the time of Neck pain, but Dr never find anything wrong with him,,,,humm
Juan
October 11th, 2011
1:35 pm
Sorry Health
basstringerfish
October 11th, 2011
1:37 pm
Bravesfan…maybe I am naive, but I don’t see any cover up…but your point about nothing specific popping up is well taken…I would venture a guess that this is the kids first taste not being “the guy”…look at what he has accomplished up to this point…and now…he’s an also ran for this past season…so maybe its a commbination of a lot of things…in his head a bit, some type of physical issue, bad coaching/stubborn/good MLB pitching/scouting…all combined…I can see that boiling over into a head game…I still think he is worth keeping as long as he works this off season as a professional should in today’s game..
buster brave
October 11th, 2011
1:39 pm
damn,just damn,please, all of you, take your medication!!!
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
1:44 pm
basstringerfish: I completely agree, I want Jason Heyward to come out of this crap smelling like a rose. His upside is still superior to just about anybody we could go out and get so as a braves fan, one would have to want a healthy, happy Jason Heyward in the lineup for 162 games. That said, this ol’ boy firmly believes Mr. Heyward has a lot of growing up to do this off-season and I think a lot of us had the “wool pulled over our eyes” when he first came up as to his maturity and work ethic.
buster brave
October 11th, 2011
1:44 pm
did i just see heyward’s name associated with roberto clemente? the best rightfielder of all time,on the same page? juan,double up on your medication!!!!
Bravos
October 11th, 2011
1:46 pm
basstringerfish, I say let Heyward work out the kinks during the off-season and give him the first month or two of 2012 to see if he is making progess… if not, then I think it’s time to go down to Gwinett to work on both the hitting AND FIELDING.
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
1:49 pm
Bravos: agreed, he needs to be on a short leash next spring, but his fielding is just fine, it’s the accuracy of his throwing that is an issue at times
Bravos
October 11th, 2011
2:02 pm
Really? I have seen a steady degrade in his fielding ablilities. I used to think I couldn’t wait to see his arm as he pegs runners out at home… now I wince when the ball is hit to him – or when he lumbers for the the ball in the right field corner. His throws have missed cut-off guys… I am not seeing what you see.
Ed Randall
October 11th, 2011
2:03 pm
Heyward certainly looked healthy to me most of the year. Looks to me like it’s more of a case of not being able to adjust to pitchers busting him inside then going away. Who knows. He has a history of injury problems but I agree with Wren and he should certainly not be given a starting job just off of his name.
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
2:16 pm
I would go so far as to say that a “healthy” Jason Heyward covers ground well enough to play a pretty respectable CF in MLB, it’s just an issue with him getting the ball in AT TIMES. Some throws look great, he has a good arm, but some throws have a tendancy to “tail”, especially going home on a close play, his throw almost always goes too far up the 3B line to be effective. That’s nothing but practice as long as the arm strength is there. I didn’t see the “lumbering” you saw, in fact as the rest of the team looked very tight out on the field, Heyward made some awesome plays and made them look easy.
Bravos
October 11th, 2011
2:24 pm
I agree with you that he’s a good fielder, I just think he has regressed a little bit. Just one man’s opinion…
TP
October 11th, 2011
2:50 pm
So the whole freaking off season will be dedicated to the hating on JH. The Braves had the worst collaspe in sports history because of JH off year?? I didn’t know that in a “team sport” a second year above average player could cause so much demise.
Bravos
October 11th, 2011
2:57 pm
Nobody is blaming the collapse on Heyward alone… you need to relax. Over the past several weeks people have been discussing ALL OF THE ISSUES this team faces, including JH. Man you’re sensitive… what’s your agenda?
kirkinga
October 11th, 2011
3:00 pm
Yet another Heyward entry for the blog. Maybe it’s just me, but I could have sworn that 99% of the players disappeared/underperformed in those last 6 weeks or so. Will we get to explore what happened to the well-compensated vets, or will we continue to turn Jason Heyward into some kind of Jeff Francouer-Yunel Eescobar problem child?
The Braves gave up on both of those players and they sure could have used them this season.
TP
October 11th, 2011
3:00 pm
Your agenda is as clear southern moonshine.
Bravos
October 11th, 2011
3:03 pm
So you’re saying rip the entire team but do not include Heyward because….? LOL
Bravos
October 11th, 2011
3:06 pm
I have no agenda. I have ripped Fredi, McCann’s funk during September, our starting rotation other than Hudson, etc. So when I also blame Heyward for a PATHETIC season, I have an agenda? LOL TP – you are no doubt a brothah with an agenda. That or you have a man-love for Heyward.
dinkdunk
October 11th, 2011
3:14 pm
Jay-hey needs to go look at film of good hitters and see how still they keep their head. J’s head must move a foot when he swings. Hitting starts with seeing-if your head moves that much, no wonder you can’t see the ball.
Check out Barry Bonds swing when he was dominating-(roids or not.)
b
October 11th, 2011
3:22 pm
Heyward has always been injury prone since the minors.
And that’s not good for a 22 yr.old.
And I’m talking about almost his whole body.
bvillebaron
October 11th, 2011
3:22 pm
buster brave:
Uh, no offense, but Hank Aaron was the greatest RF of all time and the greatest player of all time IMHO.
bvillebaron
October 11th, 2011
3:30 pm
Flo-Rio-Duh:
I think you are on to something with your comment that Heyward is a failure of management. But what the heck, if you read Wren’s post season pubiic comments, you will find that this epic collapse was due to the fact that (1) Lowe wasn’t one of the team’s 5 best starters (too bad he apparently only discovered that precious gem AFTER the season was over and not while he pitched to an ERA of around 10 for the entire month of September and did not give a team that was struggling to score runs a chance to win any of those games) and (2) Heyward underperformed and struggled at age 22.
Why do I get this sinking feeling that Heyward will flourish and become the player many have predicted AFTER he leaves this organization?
joe in tucker
October 11th, 2011
3:33 pm
somebody get him a Temperpedic Mattress!!
jim
October 11th, 2011
3:42 pm
It seems like the Braves are wasting money bringing in hitting coach candidates from other organizations. There seem to be no lack of candidates already interviewing on his blog.
Bravos
October 11th, 2011
3:43 pm
I’m not at all ready to give up on JH… but I think we can’t afford to have the same level of production next year… I have no issues with going to Gwinett to work things out.
TPic
October 11th, 2011
3:50 pm
bvillebaron,
Thr best RF (or player) of all-time would be a great discussion. I’m not going to tell you it isn’t Hank (I could easily argue it was) but cases could be made for others. My personal favorite was Al Kaline, clearly not the best ever but one of the greats. Don’t forget that fat pitcher from Baltimore who became a position player and could go yard every now and then.
Heyward gets on base now
October 11th, 2011
3:52 pm
Heyward made good strides at the end of the year. Hoping he continues this to next season.
Ya’ll need to wait until next year until a decision is made about Jason. Sure he sucked overall this year, but he had a good rookie season.
Year three will be the deciding year for him.
alex
October 11th, 2011
3:54 pm
other than kimbrell,venters,freeman, bourne,and hudson;no player should besave from trade status:chipper, jh,etc. The ENTIRE team collapsed in sept.
Fire FW
BuffaloAjax
October 11th, 2011
3:54 pm
I think his shoulder is hurt from trying to hit everything from 6 inches outside of the strike zone to the 3rd base dugout over the right field wall. He tried to pull everything! Someone might want to let him know the low and away slider can’t be pulled all the time. I figured after he rolled over the ball for a grounder to second base for the zillionth time this might occur to him. I might be wrong but I don’t think too much stock can be put in this kid.
Vespidie
October 11th, 2011
4:03 pm
NOBODY should be guaranteed a starting job!
Lobosolo
October 11th, 2011
4:04 pm
Hey, braveswhinersinceforever…yeah, I mean you…. Nerve systems are extremely complex and REALLY SMALL… if a synapse ain’t synapsin’, chances are you won’t see it on an MRI, and certainly not from your lofty perch in the armchair… VERY EASY TO GO UNDETECTED… ask around, lummox, next time you go to refill your meds… not all injuries are going to show up all of the time… quit while you just sound a lot stupid, until you digress into a total lump.,.
Lobosolo
October 11th, 2011
4:05 pm
Like alexis…
Getridofhim
October 11th, 2011
4:11 pm
Ship him out he is a major BUST.Franceour looks like Micky Mantle compared to him. At least Franceour had years of 70, 105 and 102 rbi’s.
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
4:11 pm
lobosolo: are you a braves fan at all or just a jackass? your posts should be followed by heeyaw heeyaw heeyaw! your name should be solodonkey! go away and leave the rest of us braves fans alone, twerp!
Bravos
October 11th, 2011
4:23 pm
Getridofhim, it’s too premature to get rid of JH. He’s a project who will hopefully learn and progress….
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
4:34 pm
yeah I think he deserves (per rookie season) another look, if he has more injury trouble right off, that might mean shipping him out, or if he can’t get his swing under control, might test the trade market, though I don’t think we’d get a lot for him, because the past has taught me that other clubs seem to be much better informed about players’ collapses or weaknesses or what-have-you (i.e. Nate McClouth)
bvillebaron
October 11th, 2011
5:22 pm
TPic:
Yeah it would be an interesting discussion I guess, if the only criteria was solely defensive ability (for which Aaron was underrated his entire career; I once saw him throw out a runner–admittedly slow–from right centerfield in old Connie Mack stadium who was tagging up from third). My point earlier was that if you consider all facets of the game, Aaron is hands down the greatest RF ever and, at least in my humble opinion, the greatest player ever.
Keep in mind that Aaron played in what I call the golden age of baseball after the color barrier was broken and all players of all races were playing but before the talent was diluted with expansion. Two amazing stats regaarding Hammerin’ Hank are (1) he hit almost the same number of homers playing on the road as in his home park (thereby dispelling the notion held by many that he fattened up his homer totals at the so-called “Launching Pad”) and (2) he has more than 3,000 hits without including ANY of his 755 homers.
bvillebaron
October 11th, 2011
5:33 pm
bravesfan since80s:
So you think it might be worthwhile to give Heyward another chance and not write him off at age 22, huh? Don’t have a problem with farming him next year if he still struggles, but your suggestion that the Braves couldn’t get much for him in a trade is laughable. I can think of 29 other franchises that would knock down Wren’s door to try to acquire Heyward.
As I said earlier, I get this sinking feeling that Heyward will become the player that many feel he can be only AFTER he gets out of this organization.
.
@___ISH___
October 11th, 2011
5:59 pm
Winter ball.
John
October 11th, 2011
7:00 pm
wow… I’m shocked he had a spine looking at the way he played
jbbrave
October 11th, 2011
7:48 pm
His problem is close to his spine, but a little higher. I’m sure he has had physical problems, but it seems the physical has become mental in my opinion. Regardless, he won’t improve until true adjustments are made to his swing. Now matter what the count is, his swing is the same. It’s a giant looping swing. Shorten it up on 2 strikes. Make adjustments please.
Maria
October 11th, 2011
8:44 pm
What do people think about the idea of trying Jason Heyward out in center? It’s not to take Michael Bourn’s spot but just as a backup type thing. Should Bourn get hurt, they don’t have anyone to play center unless they use Constanza. Bourn is going to need some days off during the season and Heyward could back him up. Just something to try out and it might turn into a good thing. Bourn’s contract is up at the end of next year and with that idiot agent of his (Boras), he’s gonna be asking for some big money so in case we lose Bourn to an injury or free agency, they’d have another option to go to in Heyward. Atlanta has a ton of help for the left and right field positions but do not have anything in case something happens to Bourn for center field.
fred
October 11th, 2011
9:10 pm
Hire Greg Walker to get J-Hey back on track..they both can do!
TP
October 11th, 2011
9:12 pm
Just imagine how Willie Mays would have been treated based on the comments on this blog.
1st yr age 20 121 gms 68 RBI 20 HR .276 BA
2nd yr age 21 34 gms 23 RBI 4 HR .236 BA
3rd yr age 23 151 gms 110 RBI 41 HR .345 BA
From reading the comments on here, Willie Mays didn’t deserve a third year. After his miserable second year, I wondered did the Giants GM tell him, his position was up for grabs. And this was back in the early 50’s.
bravesfansince80s
October 11th, 2011
10:37 pm
bvillebaron: yes, I think they need to give him another look, and he SHOULD open the season as our starting RF. I disagree with you, IF we tried to trade him this off season, or after spring training starts and he gets hurt yet again, or once the season gets underway he still isn’t hitting or showing adjustment and improvement, there MIGHT be several teams interested in taking a chance on him, but I can GUARANTEE you that unless we hold onto him and he comes out pretty strong next season, NOBODY is gonna offer a blockbuster type trade for him. Why would they? That would be pretty stupid given his history up ’til now. Yes, Willie Mays was a great ballplayer, but Willie Mays rarely sat on the bench for any reason, and a year where he only played in 34 games must’ve meant a major injury, not nerve synapsis issues lobosolo!
Powder Blue
October 12th, 2011
12:43 am
Heyward’s only problem is that he sucks.
Al
October 12th, 2011
6:39 am
TP, great post about Mays and his first three years.These experts
should give the Jason a chance.
Shakey
October 12th, 2011
7:28 am
Whenever I hear fans complaining about a player’s “mysterious injury,” I think of how J. R. Richard was vilified by the Houston fan base… and then I decide to give the player the benefit of the doubt.
Look him up if you don’t know the story.
poolcue
October 12th, 2011
8:29 am
READ THE BLOG OUT OF PHILLY YESTERDAY, LOVED IT! THE PHILLYS AND THE BRAVES TOGATHER COULD NOT WIN .I DONT KNOW WHO WILL BE WORSE NEXT YEAR. THE ONE I LIKED BEST WAS WE TRADED ALL OUR DRAFT SUPERSTARS FOR A BUGGED EYE RIGHT FIELDER. WE MADE THE RANGERS AND THE PHILLYS DID THE SAME THING FOR ASTROS
John A.
October 12th, 2011
9:13 am
I only have a few questions…..1) Where are all of the baseball players gone? 2) Does anyone remember Billy Bruton and Henry Aaron? 3) Why can’t pitchers pitch like they used to?
Let’s look at former Braves….Johnny Logan….Joe Adcock…Eddie Matthews….Joe Torre….Frank Torre…Warren Spahn…Lew Burdette…these are just a few that were true baseball players, and didn’t make more than $75,000 per season. Ball players such as those mentioned were in WS, and you didn’t hear them complaining about hangnails or aches and pains. THEY PLAYED BALL!!!!!
poolcue
October 12th, 2011
9:37 am
PHILLY.COM PHILLY SHOULD TRADE HOWARD AND HIS 95 MILLION CONTRACT TO THE BRAVES FOR FF. SOUNDS LIKE YOUR KIND OF DEAL F.W.
Brava
October 12th, 2011
11:21 am
Whenever I hear fans complaining about a player’s “mysterious injury,” I think of how J. R. Richard was vilified by the Houston fan base… and then I decide to give the player the benefit of the doubt.
Look him up if you don’t know the story.
I didn’t know the story, so I looked him up. I don’t see how this correlates to Heyward. Richard had extensive blockage in his arteries, diagnosed when he was 30, which eventually led to a stroke because the doctors failed to acknowledge the seriousness of his condition. Heyward has had three separate MRIs (a technology that did not exist in 1980) which have shown nothing. I’m all for giving a player the benefit of the doubt as well, but this player is 22 years old and modern medicine has failed to find anything wrong with him, unlike Richard. Apples to oranges.
james
October 12th, 2011
1:53 pm
so coach 13 its alright 2 do the things chipper has done because has not been arrested how many brave playes been arrestesd black r white
james
October 12th, 2011
2:07 pm
mr really i quess my grammar was goog enough 4 u to understand sounds like u never played the gam obw ever black persons point of view is not the old race card it is just how the world is as we know
Huh?
October 12th, 2011
4:24 pm
Wow, james, what are you trying to say? All I can figure out is that you are playing the race card and I really don’t think that’s appropriate to this situation. If you’re trying to suggest the Braves are a racist organization, you are truly barking up the wrong tree.
gotigers72
October 13th, 2011
12:09 am
Fredi Gonzalez is the albatross around the Braves’ neck. Just is not a good baseball manager. If he remains their manager for the entire 2012 season, the Braves will finish 4th or 5th in the NL East.
You heard it here first!
james
October 13th, 2011
2:13 pm
i saying that ur racist seems all u know is the old race card repley wake up u must live in a white world that only sees thier own side
james
October 13th, 2011
2:14 pm
just say some of my friend are black i will know were u r coming from
BravesFanSince80's
October 13th, 2011
2:49 pm
James: the Braves and every other professional sports team in America are not racist! Come on man, with a slight exception in baseball, the other two sports are heavily African American dominated! Yes, there aren’t as many black players in baseball, but if you’ll take the time to check your ideas out ahead of time, you’ll see that it has far more to do with the lack of availability of the sport in areas of the country that are heavily African American oriented. In other words, way more black kids are playing basketball and football than baseball, so that’s certainly not the Atlanta Braves baseball club’s fault in any way. We all want Jason Heyward to come out of this ridiculousness and be the player he can and should be, but he’ll have to toughen up, or he’s just gonna be another flash in the pan, the color of his skin has absolutely nothing to do with that whatsoever!
Braves Squawk
October 14th, 2011
9:33 am
“wow… I’m shocked he had a spine looking at the way he played”
LMFAO
Braves Squawk
October 14th, 2011
9:37 am
Obviously there is one part of his body not prone to breakdown considering the night club life supposedlyl leads
duronimo
October 15th, 2011
9:23 am
I’m old enough to remember when an outfielder was expected to he 300. Sometimes sometimes a team had to take a lower batting average to get a a good defensive shortstop, but not in the outfield. In fact, virtually every team had all three outfield positions hitting 300 or above. The same is true for first basemen.
JOE
October 15th, 2011
10:48 am
I hope he have a come back year,The way FRANK PUT IT his job is depending on it..Do you have a altermatum.for your job..
james
October 17th, 2011
9:33 pm
hey brave fan since 80s if u think and look why did all the citysmine included have torn down all the baseball fields and replaced them with ball courts and football fields if baseball is not there of course they will play the other sports i wish people like my self who played baseball will try 2 show this young black kids that baseball is a better sports and a more rewarded one then baketball r football