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VaBravesFan
October 8th, 2011
9:35 am
keylargo
That would be a huge injury. You also have to think about Chase Utley as well. He’s been getting hurt for the past few seasons on and off. Also both players numbers have shown a gradual decline over the last few years.
Brave New World
October 8th, 2011
9:36 am
The Phillies are old and stuck with some big contracts that will limmit their desperation moves in the off season. If Hunter Pence is the Phil’s savior, they are in deep trouble.
Brave New World
October 8th, 2011
9:37 am
I sincerely hope he’s not hurt, but if I’m a Phil’s fan, Howard’s ritual of spitting into his hands like he’s about to do something productive has got to be getting old.
Lew
October 8th, 2011
9:38 am
IVAN – Doing pretty well Buddy. How about yourself? The Dawgs gonna win today?
space monkey
October 8th, 2011
9:39 am
The Phillies spit the bit again. Local papers saying they had the greatest rotation ever. I guess they forget Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz and any combination of Avery, Neagle, and Millwood. I’d stack that against the Phils four any day.
Frankie Wren
October 8th, 2011
9:39 am
God forbid if the Eagles lose Sunday and drop their 4th straight. Oh man, this gets better every minute.
Brave New World
October 8th, 2011
9:42 am
I remember that smug look on Charlie Manuel’s face as his Pholding Phils erased any hope of the Braves making the playoffs in game 162 (actually, the Braves hitters did most of the erasing). He had a different look (must have just filled his Depends)in the ninth inning last night as the heart of his order looked remarkably similar to the Braves hitters. What goes around comes around!
Brave New World
October 8th, 2011
9:44 am
Saying the Phil have the greatest rotation in baseball history, is like saying Ryan Howard and Raul Ibanez are the best looking men to ever play the game.
Brave New World
October 8th, 2011
9:45 am
I guess the baseball world just found out what app. $200 million buys you: 5 extra games.
Brave New World
October 8th, 2011
9:47 am
It’s got to be a beautiful morning in Philadelphia as the “loyal” fans wake up and remind themselves last night actually did happen.
Brave New World
October 8th, 2011
9:54 am
Fresh off the Philadelphia Inquirer sports page: “If this five-year run comes to represent a bell curve for the success of perhaps the bestsustained team in Phillies history — a run book-ended by losses in the opening round — then the Phillies, far from establishing a dynasty here, will be more remembered by history as a shortened example of the Atlanta teams that won 14 straight division titles. The Braves won the NL East from 1995 to 2005, with three West titles immediately preceding that streak, and advanced to the World Series five times from 1991 to ’99, but only won a single championship.”
Even the Philly sportswriters are confirming this fact: The Phils are nothing more than “The Poor Man’s Braves.”
richbrave
October 8th, 2011
9:58 am
BRAVES age at beginning and end of 2012 season.
Catcher
McCANN 28
ROSS 35
Infield
JONES 38/39
PRADO 28
GONZALEZ 35
WILSON 34
PASTORNICKY 22
UGGLA 32
FREEMAN 22/23
CONRAD 32
Outfield
BOURNE 29
HEYWARD 22/23
CONSTANZA 28/29
DIAZ 34
HINSKI 34/35
Pitchers
LOWE 38/39
HUDSON 36/37
JURRJENS 26
HANSON 25/26
BEACHY 25/26
MARTINEZ 29
MEDLEN 26
VENTERS 27
KIMBREL 23/24
O’FLAHERTY 27
VIZCAINO 21
VARVARO 26
Others
MINOR
TEHERAN
DELGADO
CORDIER
ASENCIO
GEARRIN
MAREK
Left off, but on current 40-man active roster.
BOSCAN
WILSON
HICKS
RAMIREZ
RICHARDSON
LINEBRINK
SHERRILL
Brava
October 8th, 2011
9:58 am
What a wonderful day to be a baseball fan! My two most hated teams, the Yankees and the Phillies were knocked out of the playoffs! Life is good. Now, if only those pesky Cardinals can be taken out by the Brewers, I’ll be ecstatic. Don’t really care much about who wins between the Rangers and Tigers.
keylargo
October 8th, 2011
9:59 am
Here’s some more about Howard. Just keep in mind that although he has been great, he’s an overweight, unconditioned athlete past his prime. Can you imagine what 5 years @ $25 per would do to the Braves? Well, we’ve got a similar decision to make next year.
From the Philadelphia Inquirer:
Now, to make matters worse, the man who is set to begin a five-year, $125 million deal in 2012, likely has an achillies tendon tear, an injury that could cost him six months or more. Howard will have an MRI to figure out the extent of the damage.
If the news is true – and it likely is since he said it following the game – the second guessers will have a field day. Is this what Howard gets for signing his name on that lucrative deal last season? It seems like it’s been nothing but a slippery downhill slope since that time.
If you look at the numbers, it’s been a spiral for Howard over the past few seasons. His power numbers have declined, his OPS has sunk like a brick, and his health has suffered. Ahead lies a major setback far worse than his mechanically-wrecked swing; one that will only add fuel to the fire that has been set around him. In my head, I picture Howard running from an angry mob wearing red pinstripes. Except he’s slowly fading. And at the end, he breaks down and succumbs to the mass of humanity. The weight of the world has finally collapsed on Ryan Howard.
richbrave
October 8th, 2011
10:01 am
Oops, counted WILSON as both on and off the roster for next opening day sorry. I’m two over anyway. Subtract WILSON as well as HICKS if PASTORNICKY makes the squad.
Lew
October 8th, 2011
10:05 am
richbrave – I think you can subtract Wilson, Conrad, Hinske and maybe Diaz, Gonzalez and Lowe from that list, which would knock our average age down a fair amount.
Lew
October 8th, 2011
10:10 am
keylargo – What similar decision do the Braves have to make next year? I don’t see anyone on this team that would come close to a 5 year, $125 million deal.
IVAN ...
October 8th, 2011
10:13 am
Lew, who knows about UGA….
Should have beat Lamecocks, but beat ourselves with turnovers…
Tried to keep MSU in game last week, won 24-10 and should of won 53-3 !!!!!
Turnovers will be key tonight… If Murray plays smart ball , I think we win.
keylargo
October 8th, 2011
10:22 am
I sure hope the Pastornicky bandwagon doesn’t get overloaded this winter. He is a prospect, but nothing else. Some scouts think he will be a SS, some scouts think he will be a 2B and some think he’s a utility man. His glove has to come around – he had 26 errors in 119 games vs. AGon’s 12 in about 145.
You just can’t go into the season without a proven SS and I think it will be AGon.
Efrim
October 8th, 2011
10:24 am
I was just counting the age of their regulars, richbrave. Pretty old starting lineup….
JJJ
October 8th, 2011
10:24 am
I think next year something I would like like see the Braves do is sign some of the nicest and unemotional players they can. I think they should make it priority 1 that they all enjoy each others company and that they eat dinner together at least 6 days a week. I’m really not to interested in there record next year as I am more worried about there clubhouse chemisty because believe it or not that is why i watch baseball, The Brew Crew are really going to regret signing a guy like Nyjer Morgan. A Player like Jose Reyes should have no business on the Braves next year.
McFann O O o
October 8th, 2011
10:30 am
Efrim Pretty old starting lineup….
Should we see if Julio is available…?
keylargo
October 8th, 2011
10:31 am
Lew – I didn’t mean that the contract had to be for $25M a year but something in the Lowe range. $15 Million Braves dollars would likely be worth about $25 Phillies dollars. Seems we have a starter with some of Howard’s characteristics that has team options of $8.5 for 2012 and $12 for 2013. The Braves will be looking to extend that contract before it expires.
I’m asking would you like to have McCann to have a 5 year $75M contract from 2014 to 2019?
Jake W.
October 8th, 2011
10:36 am
Before the season began this was suppose to be a rotation for the ages, compared to a lot of the braves rotations from the 90’s. Don’t know the final stats and how they stacked up but i’m guessing very similar to some of ours from the 90’s. Felt the phillies were a shoe-in for a playoff spot with a rotation like that but didn’t believe they were any closer to another world series because their offense was lacking and that’s were I felt they needed the most improvement instead of signing Lee. Was called a homer for not believing they were an unstoppable force. I guess I was being a little “homerific”, I mean us braves fans should know better than anyone else that this was not necessarily a formula that equaled up to World Series wins, regular season dominance likely, just no sure thing in the postseason.
katherine
October 8th, 2011
10:38 am
Brave New World
October 8th, 2011
9:42 am
I remember that smug look on Charlie Manuel’s face as his Pholding Phils erased any hope of the Braves making the playoffs in game 162 (actually, the Braves hitters did most of the erasing). He had a different look (must have just filled his Depends)in the ninth inning last night as the heart of his order looked remarkably similar to the Braves hitters. What goes around comes around!
Love it! Also, besides lowe and huddy….all of our pitchers are in their 20’s…that is a very good thing for the braves. I think subtracting wilson (sucks), gonzalez (even though he did a little better at the end still sucked it up all season and is old), and probably hinske and conrad…the age average goes way down. Hopefully the braves can get a good shortstop…why they didnt go after furcal is beyond me. Yes this season stung, but I am already looking forward to next season…GO BRAVES!!
Trey
October 8th, 2011
10:38 am
Man, it looks like the Phillies fans are starting to realize that winning World Series with constant Division Titles aren’t as easy as they once thought and are realizing why we were happy, even with 14 straight titles and one championship after it was all said and done.
0 like this / 0 don’t • Posted 1:09 AM, 10/08/2011
It’s a shame they lost, but it was great game and they had a great season. Frankly, if you can’t appreciate that, you really shouldn’t be a fan of this team, which has won a WS and five straight Division titles. Maybe we’ve all gotten a little too greedy as fans…the only reasons the Red Sox won their second WS in ‘07 was because they cheated (hello, Manny!) and the Cleveland Indians, the saddest of the sad sacks, blew a 3-1 lead in the Championship series. Here’s hoping Howard’s injury isn’t as serious as feared and the Phils come back strong for next season.
— idshull
Efrim
October 8th, 2011
10:41 am
Still, the Phillies will enter 2012 with the best team in the league. But their aging offense is concerning. The window is closing for them. But it’s not next year, perhaps 2013 could be it.
Trey
October 8th, 2011
10:43 am
Efrim, if the Braves make some big moves this offseason, it could be this year for them. Also, don’t forget that the Nationals are starting to creep up in the standings.
katherine
October 8th, 2011
10:43 am
Efrim…you don’t know how the phillies will enter the 2012 season… and obviously they aren’t the best team in the league.
Jake W.
October 8th, 2011
10:44 am
Still, the Phillies will enter 2012 with the best team in the league. But their aging offense is concerning. The window is closing for them. But it’s not next year, perhaps 2013 could be it.
I agree, when they first signed Lee I felt they had a 2 to 3 year window given the ages of their players and the talent in this division and the national league as a whole.
Patrick
October 8th, 2011
10:44 am
I hate the cardinals and not just because they caught and edged out the braves (that’s the braves fault, not the cards)
But that smug larussa, holiday, molina, and especially berkman-oh I can’t stand them.
I’m hoping that milwaukee goes all the way! I’d really like to see them win it all.
And if they do, it’ll be interesting to see what Fielder does.
Trey
October 8th, 2011
10:44 am
Wow, one of their fans wrote:
“I hope the Howard injury is career-ending.” — coloradoeagle
Kat
October 8th, 2011
10:45 am
David (DOB) thanks for pondering my question. I’m going with the Cards-Tigers for the WS.
katherine
October 8th, 2011
10:46 am
I hope it is texas and the brewers in the ws
McFann O O o
October 8th, 2011
10:46 am
keylargo I’m asking would you like to have McCann to have a 5 year $75M contract from 2014 to 2019?
Make that 6 years, 75mil, staring in 2013, and you got a deal!…
Lew
October 8th, 2011
10:51 am
keylargo – Yeah, I would be willing to go that with McCann, but it’s not quite 5 – $125 mil. That 50 mil makes quite a difference. But, I’d also take his original contract, convert his option year and boost his pay for the last two years of his current deal and extend him for three beyond 2012 – in Essence, give him his $75 mil for 2012 -2016
Trey
October 8th, 2011
10:53 am
Anyone who trolls the Phillies pages, give them this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKR0l7odlVI&feature=related
Lew
October 8th, 2011
10:54 am
I hope Howard is just fine and that they’re saddled with that contract for the full five years.
Interesting that the top three salaried teams, totaling around a half billion dollars for this year, are all at home watching the series on the Television.
Trey
October 8th, 2011
10:56 am
Lew, I hate to see anyone hurt, but I am glad that the contract bit them in the ass.
Luke Warm
October 8th, 2011
10:59 am
I realize that the game of baseball is probably more about tradition and playing for the “long run” than any other sport, but the Phils-Cards series just brings into question how much managing by an organization is acceptable in trying to succeed in achieving the ultimate goal of a world championship.
I contend that a team or an organization should be able to do anything they deem necessary to win it all within the rules, tradition be damned!
In hindsight, the Phillies have to be wondering how smart it was not to lay down and let the Braves win that last series. The Cards were obviously one of the few teams that could actually stand in the way of the Phils going to the World Series.
The Braves were actually pathetic in September and were at their absolute worst the last week of the season.
NOTE TO ANY TEAM VYING FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP FROM HERE FORWARD!
Screw tradition. If you can keep a team that is dangerous to your chances of advancing out of the playoffs by losing a couple of games to a struggling team, then do it! lol
Philly not looking so smart by sweeping the Braves now.
Jake W.
October 8th, 2011
11:00 am
I hope Howard is just fine and that they’re saddled with that contract for the full five years.
Interesting that the top three salaried teams, totaling around a half billion dollars for this year, are all at home watching the series on the Television.
There are definitely drawbacks to being a mid market team but an advantage for me is that it keeps us from going off the deep end on contracts. For as disappointing as Lowe has been its only a 4 year contract and it doesn’t reach into the 20 million range. Got to have a good gm that gets the balance between veteran contracts and young talent and I think that’s what we have in Wren.
Luke Warm
October 8th, 2011
11:03 am
By the way, when I suggested the Phils lay down, it’s no different than last place teams in the NFL or NBA laying down to get a top draft pick! Reporters and media types who cover the NFL and NBA routinely speak of the wisdom ot tanking to help yourself going forward.
Lew
October 8th, 2011
11:03 am
Trey – I feel the same way, but I’d like to see that contract make it difficult to impossible to sign a needed piece of the puzzle for them and that they get no insurance to ease their pain.
I still think that their ownership has that salary schedule on a short and shortening leash. I think that their $174 million isn’t going to see that level again given their results and that the fans will quit selling the stadium out if this trend continues for them.
Also, I’ m glad that they’re seeing how difficult it is to keep winning those division titles and go one and out in the playoffs and never even sniff the World Series..
George
October 8th, 2011
11:04 am
It is always sunny in PHILADELPHIA. NOT REALLY. HA HA.
Lew
October 8th, 2011
11:06 am
Luke Warm – That is one of the most absurd posts on this blog and we have Shaun.
Big difference between a last place team tanking a game to get the number one draft choice and the best team in baseball tanking a playoff series to get a draft choice that would still be in the last eight chosen. Sheesh.
Trey
October 8th, 2011
11:06 am
Lew, I hope the contract makes it difficult, too, but I am kind of iffy that it may make them jump into a bidding war for Pujols, especially since we know we aren’t going for him since we have Freeman.
Lew
October 8th, 2011
11:07 am
Jake W – Absolutely.
Lew
October 8th, 2011
11:09 am
Trey – They need to replace their shortstop, third baseman and left fielder. They need to re-sign their closer and shore up their pen. I just do NOT see them having the money going forward to sign Pujols – especially since they’ll only be without Ryan Howard for a couple of months, max.
Kind of hard to envision them paying two first basemen a total of around $55 mil per year..
Luke Warm
October 8th, 2011
11:11 am
Lew…. you’re full of it!
Get your head out of your butt. And people wonder why baseball doesn’t have the fan base as football.
What the hell are you talking about?
“and the best team in baseball tanking a playoff series to get a draft choice that would still be in the last eight chosen. Sheesh”
You gotta stop drinking so much. I’m not talking about the Phils tanking for a draft choice, Im talking about the Phils tanking so they don’t have to play a team who handled them in the regular season!
Let me spell it out to you. Braves sweep Phils. no Cards in playoffs. No Cards in playoffs. Phils headline doesn’t say Phils lose to Cards this morning!
Lew
October 8th, 2011
11:11 am
They’ve just announced that Al Davis has died.
Lew
October 8th, 2011
11:13 am
Luke Warm – Dude, you”re a freaking and idiot. I don’t drink, but your drug use is coming home to roost.
George
October 8th, 2011
11:14 am
Luke Warm
NO team is going to tank in the playoffs.
Trey
October 8th, 2011
11:15 am
Lew, that may be true, but Howard thinks he may have torn his tendon. We all know that’s extremely serious. If Howard’s injury is that, then I don’t see why they won’t try to replace him with much power. True, they would be paying a lot for Pujols and Howard, but they’d probably think they’d be able to afford it due to their fan base.
I personally think the fan base in Philadelphia is going to start dropping soon.
George
October 8th, 2011
11:16 am
It was a great game to watch last night, as a matter of fact both games were good.
Lew
October 8th, 2011
11:16 am
And no team, no matter the motivation for doing so, tanks any series for a better matchup. And there’s absolutely nothing to say that had they lost to the Braves that the DBacks wouldn’t have beaten them or that the Braves couldn’t have turned it around in the playoffs and gotten hot, also beating them.
Freaking maroon.
Jake W.
October 8th, 2011
11:18 am
Let me spell it out to you. Braves sweep Phils. no Cards in playoffs. No Cards in playoffs. Phils headline doesn’t say Phils lose to Cards this morning!
The phillies needed to handle their own business, they did against us and didn’t against the Cards. They swept the braves in a three game series in September at the bank but lost 3 out of 4 to the Cards at the bank. Had they won that series we would be in the playoffs. No team is ever going to lay down for another team but the phils had a chance to put a damper on the Cards playoff hopes themselves and didn’t. That’s where they blew it for themselves, not when they swept the braves at Turner Field but when they didn’t squash the hopes of the Cards by beating them at the place where they were having so much success, Citizen’s Bank Park.
Lew
October 8th, 2011
11:19 am
Trey – Even if he DID tear his Achilles’ tendon, the recovery time is six to nine months. That would put him back at June in the worst case scenario. Even if insurance paid half of Howard’s salary, they’d still be out of pocket for $12.5 mil on it and another $30 mil on Pujols (because that’s about what it will take for them to actually sign Albert).
They don’t have $42 mil – much less $55 mil to pay for one position when they need to fill three other full time positions and re-sign a closer.
TnBrian
October 8th, 2011
11:21 am
So nolie and uga can’t figure why the excitement over watching Philly crumble. Really? Get real dudes. A rival team throws cash around like they do and sell away their minors for a “win now” mode all the while this team has the absolute trashiest, most ignorant fans in the game, and you two wonder why the excitement.
Lee beats out Jimmy The Mouth this year for Most Obnoxious Philly player with this cute little line from late in the season: “Luck has nothing to do with it, we’re just that good”. How does it feel now knowing luck might just have more to do with it than you believe? Betting he wished he hadn’t said that.
Hell, if these turds had played with anywhere near the urgency and passion they did against us the last 3 games of the season they would be heading to the NLCS. Yet another reason for me to celebrate.
nolie, I know a fella like you wants to stand away from the crowd a bit, but you really look foolish dissing us for loving this Philly fall.
George
October 8th, 2011
11:23 am
Happy FOX NETWORK will not have NYC and PHILLY markets for WS.
Couch Tater
October 8th, 2011
11:23 am
Good news for the Mets. Only 24 more years left on Bobby Bonilla’s contract, after this years 1st payment of $1,193,248.20.
So, what happened to his Bobby’s agent, Dennis Gilbert? Jerry Reinsdorf hired him to help with contract negotiations for the White Sox.
If, you can’t beat’em, buy’em. heh.
O.J.
October 8th, 2011
11:26 am
I am so glad that the team that caught up to us and eventually took the wild card is advancing to the next round. Guess thats what the Phils deserve seeing as how they played us like it was the final game in the World Series. I HATE THE PHILS, and it just goes to show, you can be the best team in baseball and be out in the first round. Thank you Cards!
George
October 8th, 2011
11:29 am
I think both playoff series will be close, they will both go 6 or 7 games.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
October 8th, 2011
11:31 am
Scanning through the posts, I don’t get the delight some take in the damage small-market teams are going to do to the ratings for the channels carrying the playoffs. Bad ratings are somehow good for baseball? Really?
STRETCH
October 8th, 2011
11:32 am
There is noboby in baseball that i hate more than Nyger Morgan and he hits the game winner. He has got to be the most arragant idiot ive ever seen play the game.
The Yankees lose, the Phils lose and to complete the trifactor, ST Louis knocking out Morgan would be sweet! Go CARDINALS!!!
Lew
October 8th, 2011
11:34 am
Hugo – Maybe it makes the major networks aware that concentrating solely on Boston and the Yankees pisses off their constituency – that most of the country is tired of the exclusion of every other team, no matter how good they are?
Lew
October 8th, 2011
11:37 am
And maybe that the acknowledgement of other teams having good years and covering them in more depth results in more interest and larger ratings during a playoff series that includes two of these teams.
George
October 8th, 2011
11:37 am
Hugo Z Hackenbush
October 8th, 2011
11:31 am
Scanning through the posts, I don’t get the delight some take in the damage small-market teams are going to do to the ratings for the channels carrying the playoffs. Bad ratings are somehow good for baseball? Really?
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Hugo: It is just that I don’t like FOX NETWORKS telecasts to me thier annoucers are not good, also I do not like the way they schedule there Saturday games.
Ozzie
October 8th, 2011
11:42 am
For all those laughing at any team playing meaningful games in Oct you just prolonged the Braves curse.
All the Braves have done since Oct 1996 is either suck/choke and lose in October or miss it entirely. We should keep our collective eyes on that reality and not laugh at teams that had more talent than the Braves and certainly more fire into the last game of the regular season.
Once you get to Oct it can be a crap shoot (regardless of payroll or season records) for the Braves they cannot even get to October in most cases.
We have nothing to laugh at or be proud of at this point. Those flags in ATL need to come down and we need to put the past where it belongs in a box in the attic.
Ozzie
October 8th, 2011
11:44 am
PS – Every FO staffer and Braves employee would give their left nut to make it to game 5 or 7 of anything in October. Right now they are embarrassed and ashamed.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
October 8th, 2011
11:48 am
George, it’s fine to not like Fox’s coverage, but hoping that ratings are bad for them is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Lew, no way to confirm your premise unless they start covering the Sox and Yanks less. I doubt they have the nads to try it. I hate to say it, but I think covering teams like the Brewers more often would confirm their suspicion that the ratings would drop.
Bill
October 8th, 2011
11:50 am
Jake W @ 11:18..u hit the nail on the head. Best blog on this page. “Teams need to handle their own business”. Don’t wait for someone else to do it for you. Braves need to Learn that!
Never hope another players career is over from injury..These are real people we talking about. Get real this is a game and the man has a real life with family etc. Thats call Hate, I believe
I would give McCann like “LEW” said..$75 million for 2012~~2016 thats it. He’s not getting better..looks like he’s slowing down. (might wish to trade him in year or two!)
Wilson & Diaz have another year on their contracts. Conrad is dead meat~he didn’t earn his salary.
JC Brave
October 8th, 2011
11:50 am
Ozzie – You mad because you lost? Poor guy…
jb
October 8th, 2011
11:51 am
Ozzie they should be..piss poor effort!
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
11:54 am
From me last night:
Carpenter just came out of nowhere, this guy won his 2nd game of the season on his 16th outing of the season on June 23rd.
Not only that, but since then (June 23rd) he only lost 2 decisions, he just never looked back.
U N B E L I E V A B L E ! ! ! !
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
11:55 am
The Phils didn’t put a runner in scoring position after the fourth inning.
jb
October 8th, 2011
11:57 am
Ozzie, I do agree those damn little signs should come down..2nd place =Loser
I’m not proud of those damn years of blow’n it. The World Series sign Yes to hell with the rest.
jb
October 8th, 2011
11:58 am
The phillis had 3 hits..2 by same guy.
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
11:58 am
a message to the moron saying that the Phillies are something like the losing braves that could only bring home 1 Championship:
Sorry, but you are not even half way home, still have to win almost triple the division titles Phillies have, not an easy task. And you still have to make many more WS appearances…………I suppose you learned last night that that part aint going to be easy either.
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
12:01 pm
The Phils scored just one run in the final 17 innings of the series as St. Louis came back to win the last two games.
Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/131373053.html#ixzz1aD7K1vU4
Watch sports videos you won’t find anywhere else
afan
October 8th, 2011
12:07 pm
ozzie @ 11:44
I didn’t think any FO staffer are employee for Braves had any balls!
Fire Fredi____he is in that group.
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
12:07 pm
There was a moment during regular season that it looked like the 4 teams that would play the Championship Series would be Boston, NY, PHI and ATL…….. LOL
What a huge disappointment for all those team……..each one in a different way, but at the end of the day, same bitter, sour taste……4 UNBELIEVABLE stories………..you can add the STL, ARZ, MIL and DET stories and this have been one of the wildest baseball campaigns ever……….. The only team that has not been something that surprises the baseball world has been TEX, the rest of the stories came out of nowhere.
jb
October 8th, 2011
12:09 pm
Hey Doc..we don’t care about philly..give it a break.
UKUGA
October 8th, 2011
12:09 pm
So, I took a few minutes this morning and watched the final innings (and the Cardinals half of the first) of the big Game 5s last night.
Nyjer Morgan = an easy guy to root against. Dropping back2back f-bombs on camera reveals a lot about the guy’s lack of character.
Now that the Cardinals have risen from the dead, I hope they stomp over Nyjer and the rest of the heap from Milwaukee.
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
12:11 pm
jb,
The link paste it self whrn you copy from that site, didnt erased it before submitting, thats all, give it a break.
jb
October 8th, 2011
12:13 pm
UKUGA..I missed that what did he say with the F words..
Braves20
October 8th, 2011
12:15 pm
Somewhat slow baseball people continue to sign big overweight first basemen to long term contracts – Howard, Vaughn etc. This off season, someone will make the same mistake with Fielder. Happily with Freeman in place, it won’t be the Braves.
UKUGA
October 8th, 2011
12:17 pm
Lew, to your point. I have wondered in recent years how the nation would respond to the networks marketing stars in other markets, and seeing whether or not you could have legitimate interest in a Milwaukee-San Diego game in mid-June.
Instead, they have become convinced and/or are trying to convince us that the only match-ups were highlighting are Yankees-Red Sox and Cubs-Cardinals.
jb
October 8th, 2011
12:17 pm
agree braves 20..happy with FREEMAN the big bright spot in line -up
UKUGA
October 8th, 2011
12:19 pm
jb,
yes, back2back F-bombs right as he was approaching the sideline reporter.
jcfromut
October 8th, 2011
12:21 pm
Proposed trade
To Detroit: Prado, Lowe and cash
To Atlanta: Delmon Young and Ramon Santiago
Also any chance McCann could begin transitioning into a 3rd baseman?
Not particularly this season. Maybe start taking infiled practice and playing a few inings in blow out games. He needs to get out from behind the plate and we need a 3rd baseman soon.
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
12:21 pm
I think it will be interesting what the Yankees, Boston and Philly will do, have they learned the lesson?
I think the Yankees have started to look for young talent to built up:
Montero, Swisher, Cano, Gardner, Hughes, Yoba……….They didnt want to pay to posada, jeter and mariano tons of money, a thing they would always felt comfortable doing………I know age was the problem, but I think they are being more careful with they checkbook now than a few years ago.
Think Philly will bring Rollins back as Yanks paid Jeter, I suppose that works in our favor, superstar kind of money for a players that is not a superstar anymore.
Oswalt is gone IMO.
I think Ibañez is their Conrad, he had lots of clutch HR, but they will actually be a better team with him gone.
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
12:24 pm
jcfromut,
Mc would automatically become the worse fielding 3B in the majors.
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
12:24 pm
worse = worst
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
12:28 pm
jcfromut
October 8th, 2011
12:21 pm
Proposed trade
To Detroit: Prado, Lowe and cash
To Atlanta: Delmon Young and Ramon Santiago
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If Tigers were so stupid, they wouldnt be were they are………..Santiago is the best glove they have and young tore out the yanks with 3 HR…………on the other hand Prado just finished his worst season in recent memory and Lowe is what he is………..Why would the Tigers do this…………I would gladly read your idea, maybe Im missing something here.
Maybe is that CASH part, if you are talking 20M
McFann O O o
October 8th, 2011
12:30 pm
Neight might wish to trade him in year or two!
Yeah, I might also grow wings and a tail and learn to fly in a year or two…
jb
October 8th, 2011
12:32 pm
lol on tigers doing that deal..
Zenman
October 8th, 2011
12:36 pm
It hasn’t been this bad in Filthadelphia since Mayor Goode dropped the bomb.
keylargo
October 8th, 2011
12:36 pm
Also any chance McCann could begin transitioning into a 3rd baseman?
Only if 40 throwing errors a season is acceptable. Not even Freddie Freeman could keep a foot down and catch all those high, sailing throws that are not a error for a catcher but are for a 3B.
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 2011
12:37 pm
Texas and MIL are favorites to win their series in 6 games both.
Bill
October 8th, 2011
12:41 pm
Funny! McFann O O o ~u never know when a player may lose it are other reasons u wish to trade them..u never know u may grow wings so u wont bump your tail when u step off the curb. They traded Murphy as good example.