11:00 pm October 6, 2011, by David O'Brien
Ward High Hopes back
October 8th, 20111:00 am
rico carty- your priceless………………….
October 8th, 20111:01 am
14 division championships, 5 NLCS, 5 Cy Young award winners, 2 MVP Winners
5 division championships, 2 NLCS, 1 Cy Young award winner, 1 MVP Winners
I guess I get where people compare the two runs, but its clear which one is more impressive. 7 teams have to lose every year in the post season. Id rather be in that position than the other 24 that didn’t make it.
…and I realize the Phillies “run” isn’t over…but really it is.
October 8th, 20111:02 am
you guys really wanted the phillies out?
really. so now live with tony.
October 8th, 20111:04 am
Skeeterieg: Keep telling yourself that……..
so now it will be how tony (ego) scraped them from the bottom.
October 8th, 20111:06 am
Rejoice Braves Fans! We got Payback tonight……Peace,and talk tomorrow friends….
October 8th, 20111:08 am
telling myself what Ward? That the Phillies run now is no where near as impressive as the Braves 90’s run? ok. I will.
The A Bomb - OUTCHOKED ® TWICE!
FOX — Here’s karma for that crappy fascist baseball contract….
NO NEW YORK
NO LOS ANGELES
NO RATINGS. And the idiots who put together the Saturday baseball contract can all rot in the lost advertising revenue.
October 8th, 20111:11 am
Thanks, again. I’ve saved it for later, or tomorrow.
I was just wondering what these guys would sound like with a keyboard player. (After the fiddle player joined them for a song.)
October 8th, 20111:12 am
Apparently Shane Victorino still needs a little attention. He just did a fun little improv acting bit where he walked out in front of the media, tore up his NLCS tickets, and threw them in the trash.
October 8th, 20111:16 am
well we lost six in row to phil’s and three sraight at st. louis.
so what is the difference.
October 8th, 20111:17 am
Might,have miss read your post? Got caught up in all this !peace,and talk tomorrow.
just talkin baseball uga. The Braves season is over unfortunately.
October 8th, 20111:19 am
I would hardly call losing a short series 3 to 2 a collapse, but if it makes y’all feel better…………..
October 8th, 20111:21 am
Yeah, that set will be good then. No vocals and a lot of jamming, Robert Randolph also plays steel guitar with them on that set too. You will enjoy it.
I’m off. I’m not going to bother about a line, can’t top VJ’s. Night folks.
October 8th, 20111:24 am
Me, too, Jarryd. And you’re right – can’t top perfection. ‘Nite
not a collapse by any stretch, but the things Manuel does like saying he is going to stick Hamels in for a couple of innings to get a win on the last day, or using Oswalt and Halladay in the last two games instead of Halladay and Lee makes it easier to pile on. A lot of his stuff just comes off as unwarranted cockiness to me.
October 8th, 20111:29 am
nolie, i am with you.
short series are a crap shot.
Doc Holliday (Freeman our go to guy)
October 8th, 20111:31 am
Mission accomplished………Evil Empire has been burn to ashes in 24 hours.
This is the best I have felt while watching baseball games since we won it all in 95.
Yankees and Phillies and all their millions gone down the drain in less than 24 hours……….baseball can be sweet sometimes.
Howard went down crying on the field and then started grabbing his ankle as he remembered some 50 millions fan around the world were watching……….
LOL……Now what do you have to say Utley?
“Fokin world losers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ” LOL
October 8th, 20111:32 am
wish they would extend the division series to 7 and cut the season back to 154, but it will never happen. Its more likely that the NL will be using a DH in a few years and that sucks.
funny thing is we won a ton of those crap shots. colorado, la, houston twice, chicago.
people have short memories.
October 8th, 20111:36 am
if you seriously rejoice in the phillies losing, well good for you.
if that is you solace and you sleep better good for you.
October 8th, 20111:38 am
Huddy is not a lock to the HOF but he has a real shot at it…………the guy winning % is very very high, better than Sabathia, Mussina, Palmer, Cliff Lee, Petite and Randy Johnson.
That stat he has of 100+ wins and less than 5 losses when given a 3 run lead is impressive. He has been a horse, He doesnt have the wins but his % is not something you can ignore.
October 8th, 20111:39 am
what bit are you doing uga? people like to see the teams on top lose…Phillies, Yankees, Notre Dame, The Patriots and so on…Thats how its always been. Did you just start watching sports?
October 8th, 20111:41 am
Huddy´s winning % is ranked 28th all time……….Roger Clemens is 20th and Sandy Koufax is 23rd, that has to have some importance.
October 8th, 20111:42 am
The % is good Doc, but I just don’t think he has the other numbers.
Granted, We will hafta wait and see how pitchers who pitched through the PEDs era get treated in the votings if they are not themselves implicated.
That might allow him a shot.
October 8th, 20111:44 am
skeeter no bit, just think the people the celebrate in their rivals demise is weak.
October 8th, 20111:46 am
This team is not a Championship team ……..We dont have a Carpenter nor a Halladay, at least not yet. Those guys are unreal. Complete game?
Braves pitchers had 3 complete game all season.
When was the last time a Braves pitcher pitched a complete game shutout agaisnt the Phillies? Seriously.
Could someone help me with that stat?
WHO WAS THE LAST BRAVES STARTER TO PITCH A COMPLETE GAME SHUTOUT AGAINST THE PHILLIES?
October 8th, 20111:47 am
weak I guess. but its nothing new. you cheer for the good guys , root against the bad guys…or bad guy in Shane Victorinos case.
October 8th, 20111:50 am
In all fairness Doc, Jurrjens and Hudson got yanked from about six or seven games between them that they could have, should have finished…but yeh, guys like Halladay don’t grow on trees. Double digit CGs every year.
October 8th, 20111:51 am
This Cards team deserve the ring this season, and I will cheers for them since they are a NL team, but I will be happy if Leyland wins it. Texas is another team that has done their share, worked hard, hope the best for them.
Milwaukee is the only remaining team I dont really like, specially KRod.
October 8th, 20111:52 am
skeeter, the flyin guy is a hell of a player.
skeeter, it was more fun to pull against bowa and bobby V.
when those two were managing teams in the east, i loved pulling against their egos.
nothing better then beating bobby V when he was the mets skipper.
October 8th, 20111:54 am
Watching this teams last few days makes me feel kind of bad about my Braves. You could sense the tension almost every inning with the Yankees, Tigers, Cards, Phillies………….They never let their adversary relax, its the other way around with our Braves, you would feel lucky if they scored.
October 8th, 20111:58 am
Carpenter just came out of nowhere, this guy won his 2 game of the season on his 16th outing of the season on June 23rd.
U N B E L I E V A B L E ! ! ! !
October 8th, 20111:59 am
Carpenter just came out of nowhere, this guy won his 2nd game of the season on his 16th outing of the season on June 23rd.
U N B E L I E V A B L E ! ! ! !
October 8th, 20112:00 am
I enjoyed this little Q&A session,but a few things still puzzle me.Why so much talk about Heyward,what about Chipper’s lake of being able to go to his left and right on balls hit to third,why Mac slumped two years in a row after all-star game,will Chipper give the Braves some money back so we can get a quality OF,or allow The Braves to sign our CF long term.We should really keep him and give Prado some MONEY.If you pay him,maybe he won’t mind being super sub for you like Infante was and he fulfils the job that Conrad does and allow The Braves to also get a big bat in LF.I really don’t know what to do with Lowe and JJ and Hanson.I still hope they keep those two young pitchers and sign them to medium length deals since they can’t ask for much because they have been hurt.Give Alex a one year deal and hope the young man in AAA is about ready.My main hope is Wren and Heyward’s people get together and come to a understanding about how to besr help this young man become all he can be.Heyt,let him spend some time with THEW HAMMER.And last but most important I hope Freddie manages this Team his way and to heck with Bobby Cox and I hopes he tells Chipper to shut his mouth and let him manage.GO BRAVES
October 8th, 20112:01 am
Not only that, but since then (June 23rd) he only lost 2 decisions, he just never looked back.
Doc of course you could sense the tension. Its the playoffs. and the reason you felt lucky the Braves scored was because they didn’t for a month. They aren’t far away from being one of those teams you are talking about with one more solid outfielder (or the reappearance of Heyward). I dont see a pitching staff left in the playoffs better than the Braves now that the Phillies are gone.
October 8th, 20112:05 am
Before go to night. It’s been an amazing baseball year. New teams in the Play-offs,and no big money teams.Baseball does need this,and it’s good for baseball. I would like a Tigers,and Cards,or Tigers,and Brewers Series. It’s been good,and all take care,and peace out!
October 8th, 20112:35 am
Morning David. What a birthday present! The arrogant Fillies get sent to the showers. The dream team morphed into a nightmare! I could have had no finer birthday gift. Guess all pro athletes in Philly fake injuries when they are choking ala Michael Sick. Man did I get tired of that old routine! Wrote following elsewhere hours ago. Thanks Cardinals. Bless all of ya. So…As an Atlanta Brave follower I savored every second of the Fillie home choke. Every second! Team that could not lose lost. At home no less. Man I am still smiling! Do all crybaby Fillie pro athletes feign injuries like Mike Sick whenever they are not getting the job done! Sure seems like they do. No sympathy here. All of em can drop into Hades! Philly is only a burg of Detroit anyway. Man am I happy!
October 8th, 20112:40 am
Well I’m never one to root for guys to be seriously injured, and Ryan Howard actually seems like a genuinely good dude. But I’m gonna be honest. It’s not going to hurt my feelings if his achillies heel is torn and he’s on the shelf for the 6-9 months that that injury would require to heal.
Then again, the Phillies dealt with Utley being out for much of the year and survived just fine. With that pitching staff, they’ll survive again, and unfortunately, they have enough money to go out and get somebody to fill in and cover while he’s out and then simply put them to the bench when he returns.
The guys on ESPN had an interesting question about his injury. What if it would have been a “base hit”? And to take it one step further, what if there would have been a runner on and he would have ripped a ball to the wall?
Then again, had there been a runner on, there would have only been one out, so it wouldn’t have mattered had he get thrown out at 1B.
But how’s this for irony and how cruel the baseball gods are?
The ONLY reason Howard was up was because Molina couldn’t find the ball on that strikeout in the 8th inning? Had he thrown him out at 1B, Howard likely doesn’t bat in the 9th.
October 8th, 20115:25 am
So am I to rejoice at the misery of the PHILLIES and RYAN HOWARD. Really I cannot. The only thing that impresses me is the fact that the BRAVES are not in the post-season mix, but the shake-down cruise is over. The ship of state that is the BRAVES team is now in home port having repairs to the malfunctions of the past. One malfunction has been removed. The replacement is critical.
The only rejoicing that can be had by myself is the knowledge that the PHILLIES fan’s who posted here over the year got just what they deserved……..defeat in spades.
October 8th, 20116:06 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
Comparison of affiliated club’s final standings between the PHILLIES and BRAVES farmhands in 2011.
LEHIGH VALLEY 2nd – GWINNETT 2nd.
READING 2nd – MISSISSIPPI 2nd
CLEARWATER 3rd vs. LYNCHBURG 4th
LAKEWOOD 5th vs. ROME 5th
October 8th, 20116:31 am
Win their second game 6-5
BRAVES who participated
1B JOE TERDS [.625 BA] 3-4 1R, 2 2B , 1 BB.
C CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT [.574 BA] 1-4, 1 SO.
ERIC CORDIER [H 1, 0.00 ERA] 2.0 IP, 2 BB, 1 SO.
J.J. HOOVER [BS 1, 1-0, 5.40 ERA] 0.2 IP, 1 H, 1 HR, 1 R/ER.
J-TERDS and CHRISTIAN B are lighting up opposing pitchers. Standing tall and looking good after two games. TERDOSLAVICH got a double off starter DANNY HULTZEN. CHRISTIAN struck out.
First outings for both CORDIER, and HOOVER. Fortunately, the offense for SURPRISE lifted the goat’s horns off of HOOVER after that Grand Slam HR he gave up in the top of the ninth.
October 8th, 20116:32 am
Company coming today. Later.
October 8th, 20117:31 am
Will ESPN cover the rest of the playoffs? Perhaps they will now focus on Notre Dame and the one game win streak.
October 8th, 20117:39 am
I just think that it is really funny that the Phillies played so hard (13 innings and 4 starters the entire game) to beat the Braves in game 162, instead of forcing a 1 game playoff to force the Cardinals to use another pitcher at least before playing them if the Cards would have won.
Be careful what you wish for Charlie Maunual…………………..I love it!
October 8th, 20117:41 am
hey richbrave. I hate to see if Terds makes it up to the majors what the fans will wear at Turner to support him. ewww
October 8th, 20117:43 am
I agree 100% about the Phillies. I dont rejoice that they lost I rejoice because of the pieces of crapola Philly fans that came on this blog the whole year and proclaimed the season over and that they should hand them the championship. Suck it boys.
October 8th, 20117:45 am
Hey Robert, right on the money with that post. The Phlles were VERY happy to work hard at getting us out.
Bob, The Brave
October 8th, 20118:06 am
All of the experts above should read the Philadelphia sports pages this morning. I’m a Frank Wren fan but apparently some of the locals don’t share his view of their hitters being battlers and clutch. Then again it is Philadelphia.
October 8th, 20118:09 am
Cap Tipping HOF.
Roy with that crappy “hat” instead of “cap”. Unhappy, it capped a pack of slips for cap tips.
Baseball hat, Roy? Not, HOF worthy.
“You hate to lose a one-run game,” said Halladay, “but you have to tip your hat to him. He was unbelievable. We were going to have to work hard to score and he kept us quiet.”
Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/131373053.html#ixzz1aB0tBTz9
Watch sports videos you won’t find anywhere else
Maybe, one of the Philly writers was wearing a Fedora or he was just attired…
Wow, just went to the Philadelphia Inquirer sports page… you should see some of the vitriol being posted about Manuel and Ryan Howard!!
October 8th, 20118:12 am
After all of that, the Phillies managed to play five more games this season than Atlanta. Oh, well. Maybe I shouldn’t feel so bad about my beloved Braves, but I do.
October 8th, 20118:14 am
Bob, that’s the way major league sports goes. There were 47,000 passionate Phillies fans who were screaming their lungs out until the last out last night. I bet 90 % of them are being critical of the Phils this morning.
October 8th, 20118:20 am
I can’t believe Nyjer Morgan got the GD game winning hit against the Diamondbacks.
That was awful. I can’t think of anyone in the game of baseball currently less deserving of the kind of adulation and attention someone would get for doing that.
I mean, Ryan Braun? Why not Mark Kotsay? Just somebody. Somebody other than that walking behavioral disorder. Just an absolutely terrible, unpleasant human being.
Would have been so much better if the Diamondbacks had won. They should have. That was disappointing.
I can’t wait to see Chris Carpenter and Albert Pujols and company mow those guys down.
What a game last night.
I actually feel sorry for the Phillies.
October 8th, 20118:29 am
give it to me
October 8th, 20118:31 am
Walking behavioral disorder… That was pretty funny.
I totally respected what the Phillies accomplished this year just as a baseball fan and really thought they would win the World Series. Let’s face it, they played regulars game 162 but played a JV squad the last 8 innings. Braves win that game and the Phils still probably see the Cardinals to start the series. Carpenter was the key though. He pitches the tiebreaker game against the Braves and obviously not game 5 of NLDS. Phil fans not happy with the Braves this morning. That team out East is still good but major question marks next season. Looking forward to Braves in 2012 and 2013. I like JS calling them out in the letter to the fans and FW will get this job done.
October 8th, 20118:34 am
give me some more!
October 8th, 20118:37 am
ok. Ryan Howard till 2017.
October 8th, 20118:39 am
the line at the ben franklin bridge is way too long. so i came in here. please continue
October 8th, 20118:41 am
Phils fan- Better hope the Cubbies don’t back up the truck and name Sandberg as the Manager.
October 8th, 20118:44 am
Kat, my World Series pick was Tigers-Phillies. So now I’ll go Tigers and Brewers, though Cards might just have another run in them like the last time they squeaked into the postseason and then won it all. That year (2006) it was also the Tigers that St. Louis beat in the World Series, as most of you probably remember. But I’ll go Tigers-Brewers.
ryan sanberg is already gone.
October 8th, 20118:46 am
I think the Phillies and (hopefully) their fans are finding out the hard way that owning baseball’s best record and winning the Division year in and year just out doesn’t guarantee you a damned thing in the post season.
October 8th, 20118:48 am
Look on John Kruk’s face last night was priceless. A look like his favorite restaurant told him they ran out of veal cutlets, and he had to go to second choice.
October 8th, 20118:49 am
Martinez the man running down Chipper’s gap shot to save the game 162.
October 8th, 20118:51 am
we had homefield last year. the phillies have a bunch streaky hitters. they don’t know how to take a walk to save their lives. in the 7th, carp was gonna walk at least the 1st two hitters, but howard/shane hacked. same thing they did in the 6thinn of game 4. true phillies fans are not that shocked. doc was a beast. i feel bad for him.
-the braves fans deserve this. it’s been a long year. enjoy!
Halladay and Carpenter were warrior’s and flat out great last night. Huddy isn’t as talented but has the same makeup. Really enjoy watching these guys pitch.
October 8th, 20118:53 am
Interesting on the Inquirer page that when discussing replacements for Polanco, Aramis Ramirez is mentioned as too expensive for the Phillies. I’m not so sure they’ve got all this money everyone thinks they do. They already have to replace third base, shortstop and left field next year and it looks now like Howard will miss at least the early part of the season.
Uneasy lies the head……….
October 8th, 20118:57 am
No BRAVES, I roll with who cares?
they have some tough choices to make. oswalt’s option. cole hamels. it depends on if the phillies fans have had enough. it’s really the 90’s braves all over again. that 14 in row nonsense is never happening again.
October 8th, 20118:59 am
Some of my friends that are Philly fans gave me crap abou tthe Braves only winning one in 14 trips to the playoffs. I’d say the Phillies have had the best team in the National League the last four years and that has delivered one World Series.
It ain’t that easy.
October 8th, 20119:02 am
Really, I watch three teams only, BRAVES, REDSKINS, WIZARDS religiously. Right now I watch only two because i think this NBA season will be a ghost. More often than not I wish I didn’t where the REDSKINS and WIZARDS are concerned, but there it is……
BTW, you’re welcome cold, black heart. Thanx for your effort too.
..damn the truth hurts
October 8th, 20119:03 am
I don’t think they’ll exercise Oswalt’s option with Blanton and Worley on the roster. Oswalt isn’t worth 16 million. The Hamels thing is interesting. They are going to have to give him lots of years and dollars. No hometown discount for him or Rollins for that matter.
October 8th, 20119:05 am
Next season is Howard’s first year of the five year/125 million dollar extension. Yikes.
The Brewers can have Nyjer Morgan and the Playoffs, we have a great a clubhouse.
October 8th, 20119:06 am
blanton’s contract is actually up. ditto for brad lidge. type that makes feel a little better.
Unfortunately, I didn’t get to see the infancy of any of the pitchers you mention including HUDSON. But I think MEDS and BEACHY are gonna’ have that kind of grit long-term. Just haven’t seen enough of the others yet/
October 8th, 20119:10 am
October 8th, 2011
There’s always next year except for RYAN. I hope he can recover fully, and make it all the way back, but I got to think this shorten’s his long-term effectiveness quite a bit. Maybe the PHILLIES ownership will get into the PUJOLS derby now.
October 8th, 20119:14 am
Long-ball doesn’t win in post-season the vast majority of the time. Get ‘um on, get ‘um over, get ‘um in does.
October 8th, 20119:15 am
Does the streak of selling out CBP continue next season? Going to be a interesting and exciting Eastern Divisision in 2012.
Age of Phillies in 2012:
Victorino – 31
Pence – 29
Mayberry Jr. – 28
Utley – 33
Rollins – 33
Polanco – 36
Howard – 32
Ruiz – 33
Lee – 34
Halladay – 35
Hamels – 28
Blanton – 31
Worley – 25
October 8th, 20119:16 am
October 8th, 20119:17 am
Next season CHIPPER plays at 39, LOWE at 38 right?
October 8th, 20119:18 am
Nope. Blanton signed a three year contract prior to the 2010 season – 3 years/$24M (2010-12). They owe him 10.5 million in 2012 when counting the bonus.
Yeah, sold-out CBP band-box. Maybe less chirping from PHILLIES fans here about attendance.
October 8th, 20119:19 am
Ibanez is a free agent and I don’t think they bring him back with the presence of Mayberry, Jr. and Dom Brown.
October 8th, 20119:22 am
Agreed. He might be effective on our bench in place of DIAZ, but prolly too old. MATTY D is much younger. Besides he played for PHILLY. No amount of washing can clean that dirt away.
October 8th, 20119:24 am
I keep missing your response to my query about pix. Have you gotten three yet or still just the one.
Well, kinda looks like this folks………
Phillies folded up like a cheap tent ….
(Talk about the Braves under-achieving, look at Phil’s pathetic job of situational hitting. They were playing for the home run also.) …….
Read last night post of washed up ex- American Legion scout say that it wasn’t a “collapse”…
Sure was , hate to burst your pompous bubble ……
Cardinals deserved to be wild card team, Braves didn’t have it in the tank to win a game 5 vs anyone..
Cards may be the S.F. Giants of 2010 this year… Great job and hell-of-a-game last night……..
Watch for fsu to continue as team most over-rated as football season evolves …….
Clemson/Georgia Tech cream of crop in ACC….
flow-rida gayturds get it handed to them in ‘Death Valley’ today…….
The Dawgs get it done in Knoxville tonight…….
And the ‘Lamecocks’ try to find a qb before Steve Suxperier is shown the door…….
October 8th, 20119:26 am
Bet the Phillies wish they had lost one to the Braves in the final series. At least that would have made the Cards play one more before the playoffs started. If they had dumped two, they would have played Arizona and cruised.
Good morning everyone, Nice to see the Phillies get knocked out.
October 8th, 20119:29 am
Didn’t think of it much at the time, but I really like Schuerholz came out with some strong words to the fanbase. Flip side is that he knows from a marketing aspect that next season could be challenging. I really hope there is conviction behind what he stated and they go for it next season. Definitely nothing this organization has done in the past though, and hopefully accountability from the front office to the players on the field will be scrutinized from day one.
richbrave – Responded every time. Nope, just the first one.
I don’t have any idea what the problem is because I don’t block any email (at least not intentionally and I get tons of junk). Maybe if you had the kids email it to you and you forward it?
The news got extremely worse for the Phillies just before the last out. It looks like Ryan Howard has torn his achilles tendon. What a way to start that disaster of a contract for the Phils. 5 years @ $25 per and he’s probably going to start it on the DL.
October 8th, 20119:31 am
Yeah the Phillies have to have one of the oldest rosters in baseball. There window for a championship is closing. Alot of money invested into players over 32 years old.
October 8th, 20119:33 am
Lew, how you been?
Brave New World
October 8th, 20119:34 am
Cliff Lee: $25 million per year for a playoff choke artist.
Ryan Howard: $25 million per year for a playoff choke artist.
$20: For a beer and a greasy meat sandwich smothered in Velveeta.
Watching the Pholding Phils get shut out at Citizen’s Park in front of their lame fans: Priceless!
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