Gonzalez: Braves coaching staff will return intact
There was barely time to speculate about potential changes before Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said Thursday that his entire coaching staff would return.
Only 12 hours after his team’s season – and its playoff hopes — ended abruptly with a 13-inning loss to Philadelphia, Gonzalez said he has asked back all his coaches for 2012.
“Everybody is coming back,” said Gonzalez, whose Braves went 9-18 in September and lost their last five to finish one game behind St. Louis in the wild-card standings. “I invited them back and they all accepted, which is good. We’ve got a good staff.”
Some figured that first-year hitting coach Larry Parrish might be fired in light of the Braves’ dismal hitting in September and lackluster offensive performance throughout a season that ended badly. Often teams in similar situations sometimes fire a coach to send a message.
“I don’t believe in that,” Gonzalez said. “I think if you hire people, let them do their job. If they’re organized, detailed, and they work… You’re right, it’s easy to fire somebody and throw somebody to the wolves. That’s not the way I work.
“You want coaches to be able to come in here and work in a good environment and not be looking over their shoulders worried about that kind of stuff.”
Atlanta ranked 26th in the major leagues in batting average (.243) and on-base percentage (.308), after finishing fourth in the majors in OBP (.339) in 2010 under former hitting coach Terry Pendleton, who now serves as first-base coach and infield instructor.
The Braves hit .205 with 31 runs while going 3-9 in their last 12 games, and had a .195 average with runners in scoring position for the month of September.
“I’m sure that L.P. [Parrish] will sit back and evaluate some things, maybe do some things different, like we all will,” Gonzalez said.
Parrish and bench coach Carlos Tosca were the only new coaches hired last fall after Gonzalez signed a three-year contract to replace retired manager Bobby Cox.
Still on the staff from the Cox regime are pitching coach Roger McDowell, Pendleton (switched to first-base coach last fall), third-base coach Brian Snitker and bullpen coach Eddie Perez.
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Freefall: Over
September 29th, 2011
4:51 pm
lol
what a fantastic start to the offseason…
DHD
September 29th, 2011
4:52 pm
I agree. Too early to make changes. We need Heyward to step it up, make a deal for a left fielder bopper and we’re good to go.
Reid in EAV
September 29th, 2011
4:53 pm
FIRE LARRY PARRISH!
ChopAttack
September 29th, 2011
4:54 pm
I like Fredi. I don’t blame him for the meltdown, but this is crazy talk. The offense went from leading the NL in OBP to being one of the worst hitting teams in baseball. What exactly is Parrish bring to the table?
Tom S.
September 29th, 2011
4:55 pm
Really? Fredi, I’m glad that everybody feels comfortable there on your coaching staff. That is very important.
Even if our teams sucks and under-performs. Glad to know everybody is all comfy.
Here’s hoping your ass is all comfy on a couch this time next year after being axed. You suck.
Freefall: Over
September 29th, 2011
4:55 pm
larry parrish needs to go…
everyone else can stay.
apparently there’s speculation in heyward possibly being moved? according to buster olney and Bill Shanks confirmed it
South Georgia Boy
September 29th, 2011
4:58 pm
I think Freddi is about to hear some very unkind comments after this announcement. Watcha think?
Piedmont Blues
September 29th, 2011
4:58 pm
If the staff stays intact, then mark my words: The 2012 Braves will be much like 2011 — plenty of pitching to keep the games close but not enough offense to put them in the postseason.
Fire Fredi
September 29th, 2011
4:58 pm
Since neither he nor any of the other coaches are getting the axe, I’m firing myself. I refuse to support a Fredi Gonzalez team with my time and money. I’ll see everyone at the Ted after Fredi is fired.
Henry D.
September 29th, 2011
4:59 pm
Unbelievable! He’s a bigger idiot than I first thought.
SeaAtl
September 29th, 2011
5:00 pm
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of…….what, again?
If I was Larry Parrish
September 29th, 2011
5:00 pm
If I were Larry Parrish, I would not want to show my face in Atlanta again……All Braves fans need to bring rotten tomatoes and eggs to the ball park next year and clobber Larry Parrish with them the moment he shows his face coming out of the dugout! And while you are at it, save a bunch of them for that worthless ZERO – Jason Heyward…..if we are lucky they will trade him in the off season for a few bats and some balls……WORTHLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Disappointed in Duluth
September 29th, 2011
5:01 pm
I think this news may be worse than what happened yesterday.
Piedmont Blues
September 29th, 2011
5:01 pm
The concerns are that they’ll trade Heyward for next to nothing and he’ll go to a club that can help a young player learn to make adjustments. Or that the guys who really took a step backward this year (Heyward, Bourn, and Prado) will keep regressing and won’t recover until after FG and LP are gone.
J-Man
September 29th, 2011
5:05 pm
Fire Fredi!!!!!!!!!!
bruce
September 29th, 2011
5:05 pm
wonder if angry fans ever played and lost a meaningful championship game, felt that agony. My guess is no, but they got trophy for finishing 8th, now they feel entitled.
southern hope
September 29th, 2011
5:07 pm
I’m not a cursing woman but GD this makes me mad!!!!
They can’t even evaulate for 24 fr’ggn hours! They already know….before even 1 day has passed…that everything is absolutely great!!! In Boston, they are looking at the coaching staff from top to bottom…and that includes the manager himself…and all players.
But here, no problem…maybe we’ll add a pitcher…lalalalal….they are living in fantasy land and have no idea how many of us are *sickened* by what has happened to this season. It’s a slap to our (collective) faces that they aren’t going through at least the *illusion* of taking a tough look at the future.
I’m over this team.
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
5:09 pm
This Gonzalez guy doesn’t have a clue. SMH… You fans deserve better but it seems like a good ol boy system in place in that front office of yours. I offer you a chance to root for the Rays the rest of this season! My guys are about to shock the world!
TROP’ IT LIKE IT’S HOT!
J-Man
September 29th, 2011
5:09 pm
No intensity, no fire and no BALLS. Its just like the fable of the Tortise and the Hare where we had a huge lead and took it easy and had no drive and allowed the slow and steady Cardinals catch and pass us and all Fredi said during this was “Tip your cap” and kept pitching Derek BLOWE. Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chaz
September 29th, 2011
5:11 pm
Thanks for letting me know the name of the Braves hitting coach. Since his hiring I’ve heard nothing about this guy and obviously the players didn’t hear a lot from him either. I’m not about firing a manager after one year, but if Fredi can’t make his presence known he shouldn’t last the year in 2012. He was an empty uniform all September.
choozer
September 29th, 2011
5:14 pm
Really foolish PR to not even address their lousy, incompetent offense. It’s not just OBP and avg. but they were next to last in the majors in even sacrifice flies? Their fundamentals at the plate were pitiful. And all he mentions is we might add some more pitching? Thanks for saving me a lot of time I won’t need to waste in 2012.
Jeff
September 29th, 2011
5:15 pm
I am done supporting the Braves till Fredi is fired, he’s a very bad manager and proved it once again last night in the biggest game of the season. Of course I am still hoping Fredi is fired this off-season but won’t be surprised if nothing is done. We’ll miss the playoffs again next season if he and his staff stays.
kevkat
September 29th, 2011
5:17 pm
Wonder would Bobby consider returning?
49YRBraves Fan
September 29th, 2011
5:19 pm
Fredi can say anything he wants.. I want to hear it from Frank Wren. I think the GM has to do something here for this poor performance. FG and Parrish need to go.
wolf
September 29th, 2011
5:20 pm
What Fredi SHOULD have said last night: “I am disappointed, angry, and depressed at the way the team played in September. A lot of GOOD things happened during the season, a lot of excellent performances. HOWEVER, when a team blows such a big lead and plays so badly for an entire month, it is embarrassing. As the manager, I am embarrassed at the way we played, going 9-18. As manager, I take a lot of ther blame, and I know I made some mistakes. But EVERY player on the roster should also be depressed and embarrassed by the way we finished the season, by the times we didn’t get down a bunt, didn’t move a runner over, didn’t make contact when any contact would have meant a run, put people on base with walks, didn’t make a pitch at a key moment, didn’t make a play in the field, made a bad base-running decision. All players do this at times during a season, but we did it WAY too often over the last month. I hope the players remember this, think about it some during the winter, become determined to make some improvements in 2012. I hope they remember theb GOOD things that happened but also remember the times we couold ahd should have done better as professional athletes.”
bronkelliott
September 29th, 2011
5:20 pm
This fool Freddi is like country club owner surrounded by yes people who know nothing about the sport but keep on batting him on the back saying “everything’s just fine Freddi, don’t worry about a thing.” In this economy Freddin knows he will not be given another major league job after putting this year on their resumes!
X fan after 45 years
September 29th, 2011
5:21 pm
That is the worse BS I”ve ever heard about Braves..Fredi is one stupid DA mgr.BUT FRANK WREN is the one that hired his a@@..Fire Wren and Fredi….and don’t go to games.
GT Alum
September 29th, 2011
5:22 pm
The disappointing thing is Fredi’s cooments sound like those of someone who’s come to accept coming up short. I think he got used to losing while he was manager in Florida.
Fredi Gonzalez
September 29th, 2011
5:22 pm
Hey I know that many of you think I have no fire and I say the same thing “Tip your cap”, but its a tough job and you have to deal with many personalities “Tip your cap”. Also, St. Louis played hard ,”Tip your cap”. I also had a pitcher that once had post-season sucess but has had a rough patch “Tip your cap”. Many say I blew up my young relievers but we had some bad luck “Tip your cap”. I want to apologize to all Braves fans for “Tip your cap” “Tip your cap” “Tip your cap” “Tip your cap” “Tip your cap” “Tip your cap” “Tip your cap” “Tip your cap” “Tip your cap” “Tip your cap” “Tip your cap”…………..ERROR ERROR ERROR……….Initiation of self destruct sequence ……10…….9…….8……7……6……5…..4…..3…..2……1…………………KA-BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
End of Season
JimK
September 29th, 2011
5:23 pm
Outrageous!!!
Fire Fredi and Parish immediately, or watch season ticket pre-sales drop.
Who the hell told this guy that he had the right to make 2012 plans by himself?
BosnianBaller
September 29th, 2011
5:24 pm
Way to give the people what they want Fredi.Don’t worry after we miss the playoffs next year and lose 90 games you and your whole crappy stafff with the exception of Roger will be looking for a job.
jb
September 29th, 2011
5:25 pm
Braves fans need to rise up and let management hear your voice.. although we know they do give a damn what fans want are say.
Freddie t
September 29th, 2011
5:26 pm
Dumb GM blew it for the Brave by not trading for Hunter Pense, who is now the best player on the Phillies.
this guy
September 29th, 2011
5:26 pm
what did leo mazonne have to say on the radio this morning i wonder?
“well, you’ve got to tip your cap to those minor leaguers we faced later in the game. they really brought their A game.”
Rufio
September 29th, 2011
5:26 pm
And the hits just keep on hitting……….or should I say the lack of hits. I felt like I was watching the Eddie Haas era all over again last night. Thank Goodness Philadelphia showed mercy and put the Braves out of their misery last night. They did not deserve to go to the playoffs the way they finished the season.
In the first inning they played ABC baseball and then they forgot all about it for the rest of the night. I blame Fredi for that. Many a good manager influences the game by the moves they make in it. Fredi looks like a fan with a great seat.
Larry Parrish should have resigned out of shame for the job he did.
southern hope
September 29th, 2011
5:27 pm
wolf at 5:20. I 100% agree with you.
Also, I’m getting angrier and angrier as I sit here…so he didn’t want to cause any of his $200,000 coaches any *anxiety* that the greatest collapse in sports history might have an impact on their careers going forward? Are you f’ kiddin me? I can’t believe I’m saying this (because I’m a mild-mannered person) but I would fire Fredi’s butt…ask for the resignations of everyone else and have the new coach decide who to hire back.
fred
September 29th, 2011
5:28 pm
Braves can go to he*#, if they keep Fredi and that God sorry staff.
Kimbrel rocks
September 29th, 2011
5:28 pm
just when you think fredi couldn’t make this worse…i will not spend another dime on tickets until changes are made. not doing it.
WeBurn
September 29th, 2011
5:28 pm
So we just had one of the worst collapses EVER, and everyone gets to keep their job? Terrible decision. We’ll be mocked in the national media for this.
Largo
September 29th, 2011
5:29 pm
“I invited them back and they all accepted, which is good. We’ve got a good staff.” If the coaches are so good then the manager and the players must be the problem and you can’t fire the players. So, what we’ll have here is a continuation of this year into 2012. Wow. . .that sure is something to look forward to!
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
September 29th, 2011
5:29 pm
Braves new theme song: Wake Me Up When September Ends by Green Day
hawesg
September 29th, 2011
5:30 pm
Wow, that’s pathetic. EVERY SINGLE BRAVES PLAYER UNDERPERFORMED THEIR CAREER AVERAGES. EVERY SINGLE ONE!
As for Heyward, stupid fans who can’t tell batting average from OBP should just shut up. Heyward posted a .375 OBP in September, better than Chipper, better than Uggla, better than McCann. It’s not his fault Fredi puts him in the 8 hole or benches him.
In fact, people hating on Heyward are stupid enough to be the next Braves hitting coach.
Really?
September 29th, 2011
5:30 pm
You got to be kidding? Really? The whole staff? Decision within 24h of the end of the season? I’d fire Freddi just for that? No analysis? No thought? Really? Really? I’d fire Freddi for that decision alone. The collapse was biblical. The post hoc analysis, superficial. Unbelievable. So much for my season tickets. I quit. I hope others follow. I have no trouble following a losing team that has some insight into what is wrong and what realistically can be done. Hire them all back a week later after consideration and evaluation? Sure. But on the fly. That’s it. I was here in 1988 until now. This is the most mismanaged team of them all. You can’t sit pat even if it isn’t the managerial staff that is at fault without, at the very least, some analysis and time to consider what has happened? Hire them all back? Really? Really?
Rey
September 29th, 2011
5:30 pm
Larry Jones
Larry Parrish
Derek Lowe
ALL NEED TO GO!
Braves Oldie
September 29th, 2011
5:32 pm
Been a Braves fan for 35 years. I’m done. What a freakin joke from the top down. This team showed absolutely no heart outside of Hudson, biggest choke artists in MLB history. Only offensive players I would keep are Freeman, McCann, Uggla, Bourn, and Heyward. McCann is a over-rated hitter imo.
Freddie G is not a major league manager, heck the Marlins fired his sorry butt.
WHO DAT BRAVE FAN
September 29th, 2011
5:32 pm
It’s sad when a manager says that everyone of the coaches will be back after the way they played this season. There should be some time taken to evaluate the hitting coach if not the whole staff. I am in agreement that Fredi doesn”‘t have a clue. Maybe we should keep the coaches and fire the manager, then maybe someone else will have the insight to say that something is seriously wrong with this team.
Matt
September 29th, 2011
5:32 pm
39 comments all saying the say damn thing WHAT THE HELL? i hope the braves Upper management is looking at the responses. I Hope at least one of you guys or ladies are big CEOs in Atlanta that are corporate sponsors of the Braves so yall can pull out of it. Sports teams listen to the Sponsors when they pull out.
Rey
September 29th, 2011
5:33 pm
Enter your comments here
fred
September 29th, 2011
5:33 pm
Lol..The Joke of MLB..hahaha
Fredi and the Clowns..now playing at your locale park…LOL
HalJ
September 29th, 2011
5:35 pm
So? His coaches shouldn’t have to worry about the results they achieve? Well the manager damn sure had better be concerned. Fredi didn’t get it done. The biggest reason he didn’t is because his team didn’t hit — and they did last season when TP was responsible for helping the hitters.
If Parrish is not responsible, per Gonzalez, then Gonzalez accepts responsibility for the pathetic hitting and pays the price for the failure it brought.
Hire the smartest baseball mind in the organization, Chipper Jones, to manage the team in 2012, and let him play parttime when he’s healthy.
This team had the talent to compete with the Phillies for the Division. Not making the Wild Card is unacceptable. Period.
Matt
September 29th, 2011
5:35 pm
Its awesome. The BRAVES AND DELTA GO HAND IN HAND. THEY BOTH LIKE TO PISS OFF THERE CUSTOMERS BY DOING STUPID STUFF
southern hope
September 29th, 2011
5:36 pm
“Really at 5:30″ …you said it buddy….true words.
Kevin
September 29th, 2011
5:36 pm
I will be curious to see how much the Braves attendance drops next season. I know I won’t be bothering to attend anymore games next season. The Braves have to prove something now. I don’t care about how much they try to hype up the team next season. It will go in one ear and out the other with me. I wont drink any kool-aid the Braves try to sell.
Go_Bravos
September 29th, 2011
5:37 pm
Braves go from 4th in OBP to 26th. Thats what happens when you hire a guy to be hitting coach who had never been a hitting coach before. But hey its no big deal we’ll get’em tomorrow, you gotta tip your cap. Seems like everyone on the team, especially Chipper, wants to throw all the blame on the Braves having to rely on 4 rookie pitchers for the teams inconsistent play. I think the lack of offense throughout the year is the reason for the collapse. We played in way to many close games that burned the bullpen out because the offense could not score runs and play fundamental baseball.
It’s tought being an Atlanta Braves fan.
Largo
September 29th, 2011
5:38 pm
Go D-Backs. Gibson should be manager of the year. He has great coaches and together they breathed some fire into the team. Worst to First.
Kevin
September 29th, 2011
5:39 pm
As Braves fans we can’t sit here and take the incompetence that is going on in the organization. They get not one cent from me next season and I hope you all do the same thing.
Methinks
September 29th, 2011
5:40 pm
Big, big mistake by Fredi.
Folks…..this was one of the most EPIC FAILS in the history of pro sports…….and this idiot is already saying that the whole staff will be back!?!?! Simply outrageous. Truth be told, I was on the fence about Fredi…but not anymore. He needs to go along with the hitting coach.
To get their attention, maybe some season tickets holders need to hold back renewal until something is done.
Simply unbelievable.
Fire Fredi!
hoho
September 29th, 2011
5:40 pm
Okay, now I’m really pisd. This idiot really does not realize how poorly the Braves played in September. He really is as clueless as he seems. Unbelievable! That’s it, I’ve had it with this team.
hawesg
September 29th, 2011
5:40 pm
I wish I had a job where I could run the company into the ground, destroy productivity and keep my six figure job.
Nice work if you can get it.
jdkilling
September 29th, 2011
5:40 pm
The bottom line is that you are paid to do your job and your job is to WIN ballgames. It is that simple. If the people that work for you do not help then you must make changes to get the correct people. You can be the most organized, detailed but if you do not get results (wins) then you must be replaced!
As long as Liberty Media owns the Braves, there will never be another World Series title!
JM
September 29th, 2011
5:41 pm
Fire Gonzalez now. It’s painful to hear him being interviewed with all the “uhs” and “you know whats.”
You know what, Fredi? You need to go.
fred
September 29th, 2011
5:42 pm
Sad day for Braves fans, not that we didn’t win but that Braves have no clue what there problems are..Really@5:30 said it all. Fredi and his staff coming back is the problem…I hope no-body goes to a sinle game. I pray you lose every game.
Maria
September 29th, 2011
5:42 pm
Well, apparently the Braves upper management and Gonzalez’ idiocy remain firmly intact. I can not believe this. Larry Parrish should have been FIRED last night and Roger McDowell too. I’m tired of watching our pitchers only go 6 innings or less. That falls on McDowell because he is not teaching them how to get outs without going into 3-2 counts.
Manny
September 29th, 2011
5:42 pm
I concur regarding not moving Heyward. He has too much upside and he’s young. What you have to do is coach him up. Heyward’s issue speak much to the coaching, as well.
Here’s what the Braves are: A young team that lacks maturity. What we need is a good off-season and good coaching. The failure was coaching. I don’t blame Kimbrel for the melt-down. He’s young. I don’t blame the young bats not doing well. They are young. That youth is a good thing. But you need someone who can manage youth.
And Bobby Cox is probably the best MLB coach of all time managing youth. Fredi Gonzalez needs to learn that attribute quickly.
Really?
September 29th, 2011
5:42 pm
thanks @Southern Hope… I wish I had some…
It’s beyond disappointing! It’s infuriating but what good is that?
I was hoping that maybe Terry would be hired (really) as manager, that they could persuade Maddox to be pitching coach, that for his last year Chipper could serve as both hitting coach and player (why not, there have been manager/players) or his Dad (really) and that they would get a proven retired base stealer from the past to come in and coach a bit in the spring (maybe Otis Nixon.. really). But to keep this bunch intact without analysis and without any time elapsing since the disastrous end for reflection. Really?
PUREFAN
September 29th, 2011
5:42 pm
Rant all you want, but you might as well look to the bright side. The potential pitching staff looks great. Hudson, Hanson Jurjjens, Beachy, Minor, Medlin, Maritinez, Delgado, Tehran, Visciano, Varvaro, O’Flaritty, Venters, Kimbrel. IMO Lowe may need to be Kawakamied. He might fit in the bullpen. Sherrill and Moylan might also be options. Offensively think of Bourn at lead-off for 162 games, Prado will bounce back as will McCann and Heyward. Uggla will have a great year. Chipper can still do his thing albeit less often. Freeman made the infield defense so much better. The main questions are the bench and shortstop.
George T.
September 29th, 2011
5:43 pm
Fredi seems to be a really nice guy. In my view he is not a major league manager. He seems very unsure of himself and this impacts the culture of the clubhouse. It was far too soon to announce he is bringing back the entire coaching staff; everybody including Fredi needs times to think things through.
Braint
September 29th, 2011
5:43 pm
Wow. What a joke.
steve brown
September 29th, 2011
5:43 pm
The damn front office is where the blame lies. Thirty three percent of next years budget goes to Lowe (below average player) and Jones (average player above average hunter). Now that is something for the fans to look forward to.
PJ
September 29th, 2011
5:43 pm
My decision with the Braves is not to go to the ballpark or watch on TV until they win a postseason series. The last win was in 2001, so I may be in for a long and much needed vacation.
Jake
September 29th, 2011
5:44 pm
They just don’t seem to get it…
cristianlobo
September 29th, 2011
5:44 pm
Why would they announce this so soon? Can’t we even enjoy a pretense of accountability for this epic swoon? It is time for a radical departure. Fredi G. is not a leader. He failed to motivate his staff and he failed to guide his troops through an unreal malaise. How does the organization give him a green light to immediately announce we’ll all be going back for more? Cox retired, let’s not stagnate further in this attempt at preserving his strategery and approach through a successor who is unqualified and inept.
Dennis Reynolds
September 29th, 2011
5:44 pm
Does ANYONE at this point even want FREDI back? Much less his pathetic excuse for a coaching staff.
tennisbrave
September 29th, 2011
5:49 pm
Larry who? I didn’t think we has a hitting coach!
Gimpah & McError
September 29th, 2011
5:49 pm
I have nothing against Fredi at this point. However, that is a ‘Braves type’ decision if I’ve ever heard one!
My guess is: Wren was too scared to face questions so he pawned this announcement off on Fredi.
jdkilling
September 29th, 2011
5:49 pm
Off season blueprint:
Fire Fredi and hire Ryne Sandburg so we can have some emotional fire and leadership!
Be willing to pay up to $10 million of Lowe’s salary and trade him for a low level prospect and give his spot in the rotation to Delgado or Tehran. Could not get any worse.
Convince Chipper to retire and use his salary to improve the team.
Get rid of Scott Proctor and Linebrink (use Chipper’s salary to get a decent RH set-up arm).
Replace Alex Gonzalez with Pastornicky; the need for speed!
Move Prado to 3B and get a LF or get a 3B; could trade one of the young arms for a much needed bat!
Sell the team to Mark Cuban, but not sure if he can get 3 million butts in the seats every year.
Support your team! Take ownership and attend games to help with revenue!
Poorbrave
September 29th, 2011
5:50 pm
Larry and Robert have been right about Braves on blog this past year..they said all year Fredi and staff would blow it and they did..Fire Fredi asp!
Bill Donohoo
September 29th, 2011
5:50 pm
Where is Wren. Wren should say to Fredi-Its you and Parrish or just Parrish, take your choice.
Fredi would do well at the OLD General Motors-gosh evrything will be OK, no matter that our market share just dropped another 15%. This same group can turn it around.
dawgfan
September 29th, 2011
5:51 pm
My grandfather always said that the braves would go no where until they got rid of Dale Murphy. They did and look what happened. Now the same can be said of Chipper Jones. Chip, it has been nice, just go away.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
September 29th, 2011
5:51 pm
Wow, birds of a feather do stick together. All I can say is this…..Fredi’s job is now on the line for 2012.
KenDawg
September 29th, 2011
5:54 pm
I can’t really believe that Parrish will be back – there’s going to be too much pressure on Gonzalez to replace him and make changes from the higher ups in the Braves organization. Why not go out and get a good hitting coach from a bad team – say Kevin Seitzer from the Royals? As a team the Royals had a .275 average and a .415 slugging percentage – near the tops in baseball. Even Frenchy had a good year playing under Seitzer, hitting .285 with 20 homers and 87 RBI’s. There are for better options out there!
steve brown
September 29th, 2011
5:54 pm
Summary
Fredi=Bobby
Prado-doesn’t remember where the strike zone is-give me Infante
Gonzalez-on the downside
Jones- fogetaboutit-been on the downside for most of the past 6 or 7 years
Lowe- fogetaboutit
McCann-as concerned about the way he called games as his hitting
Parrish-I don’t know-perhaps there was someone with experience we could have hired?
Heyward- screwed him up like they did Francouer
Freeman-his hugs are uncomfortable at best, sexy at worst
Teheran-still don’t understand why he was punished for being the #1 minor league pitched in baseball
longtimefan
September 29th, 2011
5:55 pm
I do not understand why he would come out with this announcement within 24 hours of the end of one of the monumental September swoons in the history of baseball. I have confidence in Frank Wren but he needs to take a close look at the manager/coach situation. The situational hitting was atrocious down the stretch and our young bullpen guns were misused, IMHO.
Rabid Dawg
September 29th, 2011
5:59 pm
I think its great that Chipper plays again. But….we need to make sure our depth in LF and 3B is adequate. I would like the Braves to pick up a big bat LF….let Prado and Chipper play 3B. You could also have Prado and Heyward in RF. Get rid of Lowe….KK. Trade Hanson and Alex. Start Pasternicky.
Future looks bright!
Hedley Lamarr
September 29th, 2011
5:59 pm
Are you kidding me???? I logged on here hoping to see who would get the first axe… Next year is going to just be a repeat – why bother watching or spending your hard-earned money on game tickets?!?!?! Someone has to be held accountable for this monumental collapse- no one on the staff is willing to accept any responsibility???? SHHEEESSSHHH!!!!!!!!
Reality
September 29th, 2011
6:01 pm
Shocker! No shake-ups for the Braves
TruthSeeker
September 29th, 2011
6:02 pm
Well…my enthusiasm for next year is completely shot.
MEDLEN has A Posse
September 29th, 2011
6:02 pm
What do ya’ll think is Alex Gonzo just another whiny Yunel. And why in the hell did we pitch to Pence.
I saw Sid slide
September 29th, 2011
6:03 pm
Hedley…. As far as i know the gm and the coaches put the players on the field and it is up to the players to perform. The coaches are not the ones who could not hit a lick in sept.
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
6:05 pm
Just heard a stat that you guys finished with the worst attendance since 2004. Normally, the talking heads would blame fans, but when nothing changes and you continue with the same thing over and over, well, what can you expect? I wish my team had such passionate fans. Sigh.
Oh well. Hey, Texas… HERE COMES THE PAIN!!!!! LET’S GO RAYS!!!!!!!!
I saw Sid slide
September 29th, 2011
6:05 pm
Get rid of lowe and have a good problem to have… Hudson hanson jj… then your 4 and 5 pitchers are teahren delgado minor beachy medlin. It is a good problem to have we will trade one or 2 of them for a big bat. We are not that far away people the future is bright!! calm down lol
BOYCOTT
September 29th, 2011
6:06 pm
If everything is fine and no one is held accountable for job performance, then fans should make a statement that they will not fund incompetence and blind leadership. By the way, shouldn’t Larry Parrish have “evaluated” the changes that needed to be made during the skid–not following the most historic collapse in NL history! Fans, do not support Team Ostrich. This attitude has continually prevented our chances at world series championships. See UGA for a case study. There is a reason why the Yankees and the Red Sox have won multiple championships since 1995 and we have not. When changes need to be made, do not bury your head in the sand. This is business, not charity for colleagues and friends.
tennisbrave
September 29th, 2011
6:06 pm
Well, I guess according to Fredi, this type of collaspe is acceptable in Atlanta so he is going to retain all the coaches that shared a part of it. What about it, Frank Wren?
Texas Braves Fan
September 29th, 2011
6:07 pm
What’s scarier than this announcement you ask?? The fact that you know he ran it by Frank Wren before he made it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Status quo…
Fredi should be fired for starting Lowe this week. Wren should be fired for not firing Fredi for starting Lowe this week. Inexcusable!
BravesinTN
September 29th, 2011
6:08 pm
I don’t think it’s as much Larry Parrish or Fredi’s fault. I think the team’s (bats) aren’t very good. When you analyze every game and every roster move of your favorite tearm, you tend to hold ‘your’ players in higher regard. Bottom line is Uggla sucked in the 1st half, Prado sucked all of the year as did Heyward, McCann disappeared, Freeman got tired, and we got nothing out of SS all year (like CF until Bourn arrived)…all of that = crappy offense…IMO, Prado and McCann are overrated…
I saw Sid slide
September 29th, 2011
6:09 pm
I love all of the moron armchair managers and gm’s.. go play and switch around your little league lineup this week and take it out on your 10 year olds
hoho
September 29th, 2011
6:09 pm
I suggest contacting Liberty Media directly: http://www.libertymedia.com/contact-us.aspx
Let them know that you will not be attending games next year, nor will you be buying or any Braves merchandise until Larry Parrish is fired & Fredi Gonzalez is reprimanded. Sending out a notice that the entire coaching staff (even the supremely inept) will be retained this soon (day after historic collapse) acomplishes nothing except a slap in the face to the fans.
MEDLEN has A Posse
September 29th, 2011
6:09 pm
Agreed Dawg, Pasternicky. However i think we found our next Chipper–UGGLA that man is a hustle machine.
CG
September 29th, 2011
6:10 pm
This is exactly what is wrong in ATl and has been for years. Everyone’s safe, “we have a good staff.” Colossal failure and no consequences. If coaches and managers make any difference at all to a team’s performance, then changes clearly should be made to this staff.
How?
September 29th, 2011
6:11 pm
How do we let the powers know that we are not gonna take this crap anymore? Someone’s head needs to roll, but less than 24 hours after our epic collapse all is well for fredi and his boys? We need a way to let them know it is unacceptable to the paying fans. Without us, they are a bigger pile of crap than they realize. I will not watch another Braves game until somebody gives a dam besides the fans.
longtimefan
September 29th, 2011
6:11 pm
Steve@5:54 comment-at least be accurate. Chipper won the batting title 3 years ago (2008) with a .364 average and batted well into the 300s the year before and after. He’s clearly not the player he once was but he’s got a lifetime .307 avg and most knowledgeable baseball people think he is a lock for first ballot HOF. He has been with the Braves his entire 17 year career and could probably have gotten more money over the years elsewhere. If you and others don’t think he hasn’t been a clutch player you are either are biased against him for personal reasons, haven’t followed the team since 1994 or aren’t a knowledgeable fan. I do not understand the anger directed at Chipper by some fans.
UKUGA
September 29th, 2011
6:11 pm
Well, now we know Fredi’s philosophy. For the sake of the Braves in 2012, let’s hope it works.
Otherwise, the decision will be out of is hands.
01HAWK
September 29th, 2011
6:13 pm
If most fans feel that way………………………………It was awful quiet when DLOWE left the game. I would have been standinag and booing.
PHILLIES fans would have let this team have it if they were in our shoes.
BRAVES FANS are to nice.
My WISH LIST that must go :
John Schuerholz, Frank WREN and entire coaching staff
Eat contracts of DLOWE, MCOUT, Trade SLIPPER JONES TO AMERICAN LEAGUE and eat half the salary, KAWACRUMMY.
JHEY more upset that he did not play the last 2 games instead of being upset.
None of these guys appear to be upset……………………..Well, when you make that kind of money I guess why should you.
John
September 29th, 2011
6:14 pm
If I have a 3 year contract and my first years sucks, I would feel bad, but I will still get my pay. If the owners would all stick together, they could have a one year contract and you would see more quality
coaching than what you are seeing now. I don’t blame Gonzalez, If I had a three year contract I would
bring all my buddies back also.
Walker
September 29th, 2011
6:14 pm
@ Bring Out The Surgeon’s Scalpel
Yo racist piece of crap. So called fans like you bring bad karma and are the reason we aren’t in the playoffs. Take that somewhere else.
I saw Sid slide
September 29th, 2011
6:14 pm
When we DA call out chipper jones call him by h.o.f chipper or 2nd best switch hbitter of all time chipper behind some bum named MICKEY MANTLE who all you morons would prob disrespect too
duronimo
September 29th, 2011
6:14 pm
One can always find games where the manager made a wrong decision. So I don’t think we need to micro-analyze him. What we need to do is to figure out why the pictures are getting hurt and/or wearing out before the end of the season. Secondly we to get a handle on the wild fluctuation in the performance of the batters. It had to be a world record for inconsistency. If we could go back to the days of one year contract upon which the following year’s contract was performance based, I think we would eliminate the games when some seem to be :”phoning it in”. What’s the down side of losing if you have a long term contract. How many players turn it up a notch in the last year of their contract. It would be that way every year if we went back to one year contracts. I don’t have much sympathy for people makings an obscene amount of money to play a sport.
duronimo
September 29th, 2011
6:16 pm
OK I misspelled the word “pitchers”. It made me laugh. That’s what you get for being dyslexic.
01HAWK
September 29th, 2011
6:16 pm
Plenty of HALL OF FAMERS did not end their career with the team they started with
If Hank Aaron can be traded then so can SLIPPER JONES.
SLIPPER JONES can not even hold the jock strap of Henry Aaron. I wish we could trade him so that he could DH……………………………..He would not waive his trade rights.
rally
September 29th, 2011
6:17 pm
Fine Fredi, your coaching staff is back and the fans are NOT coming back. There will be plenty of breeze next summer with guys employing the Larry Parrish cave-man mentality of swing hard in case you might make contact.
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
6:18 pm
I know how to put together a winning ballclub, so let me breakdown your roster:
1B Freeman – Solid player and plays good defense.
2B Uggla – Good power hitter. He struggled in teh first half but still gives you some pop.
SS ? – Gotta fill this hole. Gonzalez is not the future. Old, hurt and can’t hit.
3B Jones – Great player when healthy, but a weak leader. Prado the future?
RF Heyward – Make or break season in 2012. Needs to become a .290-30-90 guy.
CF Bourn – Love his game. Great defense, gets on base, steals, and a gamer.
LF ??? – Need another power hitter in this spot. Prado is OK, but your offense needs to upgrade and the only open positions are here and SS. I suspect Wren will make a deal and move Prado back to a utility role.
SP Hudson – A gamer, pitched his butt off last night.
SP Hanson – A question mark, but like Heyward, 2010 should be a make or break year. Needs to stay healthy.
SP Jurrjens – Get rid of him. Delgado is a younger version and looks tougher mentally.
SP Beachy – Another tough kid, gets strikeouts, needs to shake the “one-bad-inning” thing. Good #3-4 starter on a contender.
SP Minor – Decent future, but I’d deal him in a package for the power bat in LF.
SP Medlen – Love this kid also. Didn’t have to step in for you guys but did. He should compete for a starter’s role in 2010.
SP Teheran – Didn’t see much but he still has time and a lot of upside. See what he’s got in spring training and if he’s legit, he should be the 5th starter or reserve in case of injury.
63 year Braves fan
September 29th, 2011
6:18 pm
Is Fredi Gonzalez making all management decisions? He should be shaking in his boots about a job
for next year. If he is back to manage, ticket sales will plummet. Bring on Bobby Valentine who will
shake up the troops and who has forgotten more baseball than Fredi ever knew.
I saw Sid slide
September 29th, 2011
6:19 pm
01 Hawk…. who batted .300 the last month of the season chipper is the best pure hitter on the team bright one
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
6:20 pm
Whoops! I typed “in 2010″ in the comments on Medlen and Hanson. My mistake.
Buzzman
September 29th, 2011
6:20 pm
Nothing in this organization changes! Davey Johnson and Jack McKeon took Fredi to the cleaners!
2012 Standings in the NL East Phillies, Nationals, Marlins, Braves, Mets!
Complacent attitude!!!
Nothing will change. NOTHING!!!!
duronimo
September 29th, 2011
6:20 pm
To “I Saw Sid Slide”. I saw him slide too. I also watched him when he was playing a Liberty and my friend Bobby Richardson was coach. I remember one game against VaTech when no Liberty hitter got a hit except Bream. He hit four homers. Didn’t need that blazing speed that day.
kirkinga
September 29th, 2011
6:21 pm
I wasn’t on the Fire Fredi side until I heard this announcement. He’s essentially accepting epic failure as if it was a matter routine and loyalty.
farmer
September 29th, 2011
6:21 pm
well this just goes to show all Braves fans what kind of an idiotic moron we have as a manager.
Turtsnap
September 29th, 2011
6:25 pm
It is what it is……….
iowabrave
September 29th, 2011
6:29 pm
DOB….
Thanks for all the articles & post-game quotes(love those) all year long. For us TBS babies around the country that don’t get our TBS heroin anymore, the blog is the best way to get our fix these days. Crappy way to end the season and it’ll make the Iowa winter a bit colder, but I’ll be back in March hoping for another pennant and reading the blog!
Derek Lowe.......WTF
September 29th, 2011
6:32 pm
Freddi is dumber than I thought….he just makes it easier for Wren to clean house after the repeat next season….good move Freddi… u douchbag!
cbasket
September 29th, 2011
6:34 pm
Fire Fredi and let him take his coaches with him. They all suck.
1991 braves
September 29th, 2011
6:35 pm
What a joke the braves organization has become. First the braves have the worst G.M. in baseball, anybody that would give Lowe $15 million, Hudson, $12 million, and Larry Jones $14 or 15 million is a total idiot. When you tie up half of your budget on 3 wornout over the hill clowns, you get what you deserve. THis idiot G.M. only got the job because he kissed Shurholtz’s ass for 10 years. Then he hires an unemployed moron to be the manager, and the only reason he hired him was because the loser ass Cox told him to. The braves are going nowhere with this ownership and this idiot G.M. Every good organization starts with good management from the top, and unfortunately the braves have no management from the G.M. to the worst manager in baseball. How would this clown know what a good staff is? He was fired, and he wouldn’t know a good hitting coach or a good pitching coach if they bite him in the ass. It will only get worse next year, because the Phils will still dominate, but the Nationals, Marlins, and Mets will all pass the braves. As long as Wren, fat fredi, and liberty media are in charge, the braves will be a second tier team. Look at the starters next year, Lowe a miserable pitcher, Hudson a 38 yr old starter, Beachy, and what do you have after that? Nothing but question marks. Add that to a 40+ 3rd baseman that plays once a week, a shortstop who can’t hit his weight, a second baseman that want show up until August, a 1st baseman that is legit, and the worst outfield in baseball.OOPS, forgot to mention the worst defensive lardass catcher in baseball,who happens to be the braves mvp, and you have a team that is 4th best in the N.L. East. Thank you Wren, for this powerhouse team you built, and good luck with the 3 stooges next year. Lowe, Hudson, and Larry Jones
Braves Fans deserve better
September 29th, 2011
6:35 pm
Everyone needs to remember that the Braves had the 2nd or 3rd best record in MLB up until the end of August. Fredi actually did a decent job up until the end of August. The one area that the Braves were pathetic throughout the season was offense. How many blowout games did the Braves have this season?? Maybe 7. Every game they played in and won was close and that’s why the bullpen was worn out by the end of the year.
My point is Larry Parrish must be held accountable for the lack of offense throughout the season. He has to be fired.
As a season ticket holder, I’m not purchasing a renewal package until changes are made with the coaching staff and players that under performed.
North Georgia Braves Fan
September 29th, 2011
6:36 pm
Larry Parrish is useless. Please, Frank Wren, make Fredi give him his walking papers!!
Umpires are never wrong
September 29th, 2011
6:36 pm
Chipper and the rest need to quit umpiring and swing the damn bat,to many called third strikes!
rally
September 29th, 2011
6:36 pm
With this announcement, I feel as hopeless about the Braves as I did in the late 80s. I am beginning to think that everyone involved with this team for the last 20 years (JS, Cox, Wren, Fredi, etc.) were just frauds and I as a fan was duped. No more Braves until they get serious about winning.
mjn99
September 29th, 2011
6:36 pm
oh great , looks like we are in for the same crap as the last three years, everyone fading at the end and no hitting. yippie!!!!!
Fire Larry Parrish
September 29th, 2011
6:37 pm
GOD. DAMN. IT.
I HATE LIFE.
cristianlobo
September 29th, 2011
6:37 pm
63 Year Braves Fan, I agree about Bobby Valentine. That is the kind of baseball man we need. Of course, Ronald McDonald might be an upgrade here.
HalJ
September 29th, 2011
6:38 pm
Wren’s Kawakami blunder won’t cost us any money next year. Lowe’s too rapid descent into mediocrity will cost us $15M (or less, if we can get some dumber GM somewhere to agree to pay a couple or three million of the bill.) But having Hudson, Hansen, Jurrjens, Beachy, Medlen, Teheran, Minor, Delgado, Vizcaino, Varvaro — and probably a couple of sleepers from AA or even A ball and maybe one or two who will come in winter trades — to find five great starters… well, that’s going to be fun next March. It may be difficult for anyone, be he Roger McDowell or Tom Glavine or Greg Maddux or even Dave Duncan — to get some of them to change their thinking subtly — to ‘pitch to contact but keep ‘em in the park, and go seven good innings every start.’ One way to do that, to teach them you’re serious, might be to put heavier emphasis on long men — who some of these guys and Christian Martinez will probably be. If starters are told and realize that 50 pitches in 4 innings gets them pulled, regardless of the score… they might get the idea. Stronger middle men who are stretched to go four or five innings even — will take some of the pressure off the back end guys and knowing they’re there will inspire starters to pitch the way you need them to pitch.
But the Braves problem is with hitters who can’t. A lot is being said about Jason Heyward — but the games we lost in April, May and June, when Dan Uggla was getting comfortable would have made a lot of difference to this team. Leaving him in the lineup, indeed even on the big league roster during those months was the responsibility of Frank Wren and Fredi Gonzalez. When he finally came around and started hitting he was doing the job he’s paid well to do, but he seriously hurt this team in the early months — worse than Jason Heyward did because he was expected to do more. Larry Parrish didn’t help either of these hitters. Fredi Gonzalez did nothing to help their attitudes, to motivate them to perform at a big league level. No team can afford to carry two key hitters the way we did for so long this season. If either or both of them, or any other key bat, McCann or Freeman or Prado, Bourne, Jones even — can’t beat Mendoza by the middle of May, they need to sit, or to go to Gwinnett until they find their swing consistently.
Bottom line is that the players, the manager and his coaches, the general manager — all need to understand their positions in the organization depend on their own performance and contribution to the team’s ultimate success. They all need to know they have to help win games, all year long!
Ishmail
September 29th, 2011
6:38 pm
We be some Cap-Tippin’ mul’fos, that fo sure!
Carol
September 29th, 2011
6:39 pm
Hey folks….Fredi and his coaches are comfy where they are, and losing does not bother them. I guess you would swap all that for a winning team. How can you call yourselves Braves fans and, at the same time, diss our experienced and capable leaders? Remember that this is Atlanta and losing in sports is our norm..
mjn99
September 29th, 2011
6:41 pm
at least I know now not to waste my time following this team next year. after 42 years of being a Braves fan, there is no way I’m going throught this crap again. It is obvious that this team does not care about winning, so therefore I no longer care about this team.
Michael, The Abbreviation
September 29th, 2011
6:41 pm
im over this bullsHHT this team is a freakin joke
Derek Lowe.......WTF
September 29th, 2011
6:42 pm
“Hey….ya gotta tip your hat”……STFU Freddi and GTFO…….Go play in traffic u idiot!
Mr. Enigma
September 29th, 2011
6:42 pm
I would love to see Terry Collins managing the Braves. The way he had that team pumped up to come in and destroy the Braves was incredible managing.
Leebo
September 29th, 2011
6:42 pm
Tired of all you whiners. We lost our two best starting pitchers for the last 6 + weeks. Brian McCann stopped hitting after straining his oblique. We came inches away from gamewinning hits (chippers drive to the gap last night with Bourn on 1st)…that would have all of you talking about how great a job Freddi did. There is such a fine line in winning baseball games…and there is an element of luck and fate..that Freddi, Frank Wren, or even Ted Turner could control.
Freddi will win a World Series with the Braves within 5 years. You heard it hear first.
VinceVanGo
September 29th, 2011
6:42 pm
Lots of problems in September. McCann, Prado, Heyward, Hinski, Kimbrel, and Venters all disappeared. Lowe, Proctor, Linebrink, and Conrad never really showed up for the whole summer. A. Gonzolaz showed up for September only, then went AWOL at the very end when he was needed most. Losing J.J. and Hanson for the second half was crucial, going from 23 victories between them in the first half to 2 in the second half was horrific,and D. Lowe never picked them up. Give credit to Tim Hudson and the young guns for taking the Braves as far as they got. I was disgusted with the great Chipper Jones constant swinging at the first pitch. It was like he had a curfew he had to make every night and was rushing his at bats so he could get home. He failed to be a team leader, but I never have called him one either. Fredi seems like a nice enough guy, but I’m not sure he is a good manager nor if he will ever be since he seems to lack fire in his belly and doesn’t seem to inspire his players, two desirable qualities for a MLB manager. If Wren doesn’t make any more stupid deals such as Lowe & Kawakami and they can get Chipper off the books things may look up for the Braves since they have the young guns and Freeman, Uggla, and Pastornicky. The jury’s still out on Heyward & Prado, Bourn’s probably gone after 1 more year, and McCann is probably at the beginning of a steady year to year decline. It started last year and continued all this year. I would look to trade him for some great prospects while his worth is still high, trade J.J. for prospects this winter because they will never be able to sign him after next year, then trade Hanson the next winter before his arm blows up for additional prospects. This way the Braves would be beating the financial and injury curve and loading up with prospects for the future.
F Wren
September 29th, 2011
6:43 pm
Hey Joe Madden….if you’ll manage the Braves next year….I promise that F Gonzo wont get in your way. We would just give him the bat boy spot.
Tampa Gator
September 29th, 2011
6:43 pm
No thinking about the Braves again until next spring. Enjoy your well-earned vacation from baseball, Braves fans.
Boses
September 29th, 2011
6:45 pm
Well let me buy my season tickets now, if that’s the case.
alex
September 29th, 2011
6:45 pm
Braves have a lot of holes:ss, 3rd, corner outfielders and a rapidly aging catcher and a manager who imparts absolutely NO confidence in the FANS. Wrenn has made many bad decisions,when a good GM was necessary. Aren’t most of these coaches inbreds and hand me downs anyway,time to clean out the kennel!!
Del
September 29th, 2011
6:51 pm
ATTENTION; JOHN S: AND OUR ESTEEMED OWNERS: Please take note of your managers and GM’s decision. I would hope that you will take the appropriate action re. their decisions of today less than 24 hrs after your teams demise. Since you operate the Braves like a business I would expect an immediate business action on your part, appropriate to the situation as it has developed. Our manager and GM made a hasty decision which I would think that you consider rather frash and ill-advised. So lets see some action on your parts. I would think that inaction on your part would severly hurt your bottom line and any chance you have have selling the “team”. (Pleae excuse SP)
Looking Forward to Freddy
September 29th, 2011
6:52 pm
I agree with many of the commenters and fans here. I have been a die hard Braves fan my entire life. I go to games every year. If this is the organization’s approach to the biggest choke in NL wild card history, caused mainly by the ineptitude of the managing and coaching staff (with the exception of McDowell), then I will not go to any games until the approach changes, and the organization decides to become competitive. I will not buy a ticket until the organization proves that they can address failures, rectify them, and adapt. I am disgusted. I will watch my Bravos when management addresses and hold itself accountable to what happened this season. I will miss going to the Ted, but I cannot support something as inept as this.
Red Clay Hound
September 29th, 2011
6:56 pm
As long as Gonzalez manages this team we should change our name to the Atlanta Cap-tippers.
urban redneck
September 29th, 2011
6:57 pm
greg norton for hitting coach? i’m sure he doesn’t have much going on.
The Joker
September 29th, 2011
7:01 pm
HAHAHA.. Good one Freddi! Time for you to say “April Fools” or “Sike” This article cannot be serious….is it?
sparks
September 29th, 2011
7:01 pm
Thanks for the heads up Fredi..I’m done with this team until I see some changes. No more ticket or teamwear purchases for me. I’m now a Rays fan.
PhillyGuy
September 29th, 2011
7:02 pm
Anybody up for becoming a Phillies fan for the next month? I honestly would root for the braves if they were in and Phils were out. I don’t know what it is I just think that are typically a likable team unlike those Mets who I just can’t stand
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
7:02 pm
F Wren,
I appreciate your kind words, but I have to get my guys focused for this pennant chance! Rays World Order, my man! I will say this: Terry Pendleton deserves an apology from a lot of your fans. Last year’s team had guys like Rick Ankiel, Troy Glaus and Nate McLouth getting regular at-bats and he had them tops in the NL in OBP. What they didn’t have last year was legit power hitters. You guys sacrificed one for the other and the offense took a nose-dive this year. But as I said, you’ll be fine once you fill the holes in LF and SS.
rays, Rays, RAYS!!!
Desperate Times
September 29th, 2011
7:03 pm
If the Braves don’t even move Larry Parrish then they have managed to do something that no one has managed to do to me as a 50 year Braves fan. And that is to run me off!
So tell me Fredi? You managed to have a historic meltdown and you refuse to consider changes? I hope the fans revolt on this team and not consider supporting such a weak effort!
To heck with you and this weak effort of management!
TheSmooth
September 29th, 2011
7:04 pm
You all stink!
PhillyGuy
September 29th, 2011
7:05 pm
Anybody think that this Rays World Order thing is corny or is just me. I will also be rooting for the Rays. They are a very good team and with the exception of Upton I like most of the team as well. Their fans stink however. In 2008 I flew done for games 1 & 2 and bought tickets at face value and the stadium had plenty of open seats for the WORLD SERIES. Can you imagine that
Playoffs!!!
September 29th, 2011
7:06 pm
I grew up a Yankee fan and moved to Altanta in late ‘89. How could you not become a Braves fan during the ‘91 season? And I’ve been a Braves fan for 21 years now. But this is it. I can’t take the disappointment anymore from a team that underachieves, and where no one is held accountable when things go wrong..
It’s simply OK to come close. The status quo is acceptable.
So I’m not going to be sucked in anymore. I won’t be going to any games. I’ll watch them from afar, check the standings ever few weeks. And follow a team that doesn’t accept second best.
Go Yankees!
Vino Fino
September 29th, 2011
7:06 pm
ABSOLUTELY FREAKIN’ RIDICULOUS!!!
LARRY PARRISH HAS TO BE FIRED!!!
I have never seen such an incompetent display of offensive (lack of) execution in my entire life. This team could do nothing but swing as hard as possible and hope the bat hits something. The complete inability to hit situationally is what cost this team a trip to the post-season, not the pitching. Horrible BA, OBP BA w/ RISP. When a team can’t execute as an offense for 3/4 of a season and 2/3 of the line-up has substandard years, then somebody
Vino Fino
September 29th, 2011
7:07 pm
…HAS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!
Tough Decisions
September 29th, 2011
7:08 pm
If Fredi can’t make the tough decisions and has already asked everyone back, including Parrish, then maybe HE should be asked to leave!
smallmouth6
September 29th, 2011
7:10 pm
Jurjjens seems to be the guy not being talked. Two years in row he has gone on the DL and not helped in the postseason. I don’t expect anything different next year. He’s the one I would like to unload and maybe get a few dollars for good left fielder with pop. Agree with much that has been said on this site, but some of you say it better than others. This was ultimately the most embarrassing team the Braves have had since 1990 and I didn’t think anything would make me feel worse than the 1996 WS. Actually, it doesn’t compare because that team (and the 1993 team that blew it to Phillies) were fun to watch.
Tough Decisions
September 29th, 2011
7:11 pm
Fire Fredi then he won’t have to worry about firing Parrish!
RoyU
September 29th, 2011
7:17 pm
Less than one day after they finish this facade, Fredi has a complete handle on the situation??? He obviously is also completely satisfied with his performance in managing which is a subject that certainly needs considerable evaluation. Does this man have any sense of reality? He’s not much of a man or manager if he does not have the capacity to think at least a little longer. This season turns out to be a disaster and in less than 24 hours, this idiot knows for a fact that not one member of his coaching staff might be partially at fault. If his decision making during the season was given as much thought, it is no wonder the Braves and their fans lost out!!!! This man should go and soon!!!
Delbert D.
September 29th, 2011
7:18 pm
Larry Parrish Wikipedia quote:
“In his first year as hitting coach, he took a team who led the league in OBP in 2010 to 5th worst in baseball.”
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
7:20 pm
Guys, don’t worry about the Phillies. They’re one and done. The Cardinals are the only team in the NL that had a winning record vs them. Phillies did everything they could to eliminate the Braves and it WILL come back to haunt them. Cheer up, Atlanta… because Pujols, Holliday and Berkman are about to put on a show in that series!
RWO!
SAL
September 29th, 2011
7:23 pm
Fredi was hired because he is just like Bobby Cox. He proved this point this year in many moves, including burning Venters & Kimbrel out by end of August. Braves need to adopt Nolan Ryan approach that starters go 8 or more. If you only can go 5 innings, you are a middle reliever at best. Young guys & old hands need to pitch deep into games to save the pen.
Tucson AZ
September 29th, 2011
7:25 pm
I can’t believe that no one is going to be held accountable for the worst choke in Braves history.I am from AZ but the Braves were my team up until now.At least the Dbacks care about their fans unlike the Braves.FG and LP should be fired!
DC Brave
September 29th, 2011
7:27 pm
One of the SI writes had a pretty good line: “In Atlanta this will be forgotten in the time it takes to say what time is kickoff?”
If we had an owner committed to winning…this would not be true.
TD has no clue!
September 29th, 2011
7:28 pm
This is what I hate about managers and coaches. They are too loyal to their assistants. This is why the Falcons won’t win anything. Smith wont fire the off and def coordinators.
Mr. Enigma
September 29th, 2011
7:29 pm
Joe Maddon
Nationals also had a winning record against the Phillies. They finished 10-8.
Maria
September 29th, 2011
7:29 pm
I really hope the Atlanta radio stations look at this and talk about it. It’s amazing at the number of people that do not like this. That should tell Braves management something.
Fordcobra
September 29th, 2011
7:30 pm
If Braves management after having to refund all the playoff ticket money, don’ see a need for major changes I am sorry for them!
DC Brave
September 29th, 2011
7:30 pm
Why is this even Fredi’s choice? Shouldn’t Wren, JS, or Terry McJerk (the real idiot) either weigh in on this issue? Speaking of those guys…why are there jobs secure?
bostonbravo
September 29th, 2011
7:32 pm
Fredi will be very sorry for his comments. end of story. you may have to wait 190 days…but there will be big changes.
ph
September 29th, 2011
7:32 pm
I say seeya Fredi, Roger and Parrish.
Marvel Goose
September 29th, 2011
7:36 pm
Fredi needs to get some media coaching. When the mob is screaming for blood is not a good time to make a case for the status quo. Just a a big, I’m sorry and refuse to talk about the future was all that was needed. Two days ago he was quoting Mark Richt with that “it is what it is” nonsense.
PhillyGuy
September 29th, 2011
7:39 pm
Joe Maddon… Did you not watch any of the games against the Cards 10 days ago? It was right after we clinched and we played with mostly a minor league line up. I do agree though the cards are good team and a worthy opponent unlike these Braves
Day Trader
September 29th, 2011
7:40 pm
Liberty Media’s stock was down 2.36% today. Word on the Street is that Fredi is going to have to explain why he pitched to Pence to the Board on Friday via teleconference.
My advice: SELL, SELL, SELL this stock!!!!!!!!!
usnavyvolfaninva
September 29th, 2011
7:41 pm
It’s pretty cut and dry…. Parrish needs to go.
Bobby's Cox
September 29th, 2011
7:46 pm
This team has been too painful to watch. Cancelled my MLBTV subscription a while ago. It’s agonizing to watch a team that has great pitching and such a hapless offense. And, a philosophy that seems to maximize our offensive weaknesses by coaching everyone to swing for the fences every time. Pitchers give up a couple runs, and everyone knows, odds are we won’t score enough. Demoralizing.
I like what someone else said earlier. I’ll tune in again after a change in leadership and philosophy.
Watching this team is hazardous to my health!
dedmammal
September 29th, 2011
7:48 pm
Good news and Bad news…Bad news is,we only got manure for dinner.Whats the Good news?…..THERE’S TONS OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!
reason
September 29th, 2011
7:48 pm
Fredi, is being blame because as manager he had the last word, even if Chipper, wasn’t very helpful.
Let’s see McCann couldn’t throw anyone out, or hit when needed, Fredi overplay him.
Chipper, as some say playing hurt is as good as some healthy player, is pure 100% bull.
Heyward, should be in the minor’s, not ready for the big time.
Alex G. acted like he wanted to be somewhere else.
The worse deal was getting Wilson.
Go through the whole team and spot weak areas as a baseball fan, and the Brave coaching
staff miss it, they all should be replace.
Fredi, in my view let the team manage itself, he wasn’t as aggressive as should have being, and the GM, did a bad job not getting a power hitter.
The era of the Braves is over and they will be a second rate team, from here on end.
Dave in Green Bay
September 29th, 2011
7:55 pm
Braves need to clean house top to bottom but need an individual owner with money to spend and passion for the team: (See Milwaukee Brewers)
Larry Parrish
September 29th, 2011
7:55 pm
Hey, you make it to the majors you should know how to hit, Ain’y my fault.
Joe
September 29th, 2011
7:56 pm
Here’s a not-so-new idea. Freddie loves his lack of production staff, how about all of them get pink slips! We made MLB history for chocking and jobs are safe! What message is being sent to us faithful fans, who fill the seats? Maybe when our stands look like Tampa, then the front office will get the picture. We need change! Somebody has got to pay for this season!
Tucson AZ
September 29th, 2011
7:58 pm
DOB should apologize to the fans also for not having the guts to ask FG who he thought was responsible for the meltdown.
braves fan
September 29th, 2011
7:59 pm
fredi has got to go along with frank wren, this season so many games lost by bad decisions by the manager. so many bad decisions by the gm over the last 3 years, kk, diaz, multiyear contract for a 3rd baseman that cant stay healthly , a right fielder that needs to be in the minors until he learns to hit a curve ball , a left fielder that cant hit more than 13 home runs in over 500 at bats (cant steal bases either), a catcher that cant quit conplaining to the umpires about balls and strikes instead of just playing the game. a manager that has lost the confidence of the city (not just for 1 bad month but for a season of bad baseball decisions). bad trades, bad draft picks , other than the minor league pitchers a weak farm system. The blueprint for winning was in place for 14 years (how come this gm cant follow what used to work (speed, power hitters and defense), we are weak in left and right field shortstop and for a 3rd of the season 3rd base (when chipper usually makes his yearly disabled visit.) if the gm and manager cant see this maybe liberty media needs to. the only way frank wren should keep his job is to acquire a 200 plus inning starter with an era under 4.00, a 25 to 30 home run hitter for the outfield and a shortstop that can field and hit and steal bases , maybe the untouchable brave players should be considered in trade talks, maybe kemp would be available for a mccann, maybe liberty media would spend the money for great players instead of the same song and dance we get from the gm after 1 move is made (we will look at this again in the spring). is money really that tight for the braves or do they not want to spend the money because liberty media doesnt trust the decisions of the gm spending the money. …seems like its time for a change from top to bottom in the management ranks
wins-by-a-link
September 29th, 2011
8:03 pm
Don’t expect anything to improve as long as Liberty Media owns the Braves, They bought Braves for a tax write off and really don’t care if they lose or win, They will never put the kind of money into the Braves organization to compete with the Phils. They have owned the Braves for what four years now and you see the results. Get use to it.
Largo
September 29th, 2011
8:05 pm
It’s nice to know that things will be the same next year, Fredi. Bet the fans are looking forward to the same old crap. We have not heard from the top brass yet. Maybe they’ll have different ideas about who goes and who stays.
BRAVESFAN
September 29th, 2011
8:10 pm
In 2012 I think it’s safe to say that they can be replaced by a computer.
Editor: AJC
September 29th, 2011
8:15 pm
Do you juveniles not notice that DOB doesn’t give you the time of day on this blog? Get a clue.
Abner
September 29th, 2011
8:17 pm
Now we know, from his own mouth, that Fredi is not upset about losing games or making the playoffs and that keeping his buddies employed as his coaches is what is important to him.
I, like most of you, thought that getting him to manage the Braves was an excellent move so we can’t lay the blame on Wren for hiring him. We might have all been wrong.
David O'Brien
September 29th, 2011
8:19 pm
DOB should apologize to the fans also for not having the guts to ask FG who he thought was responsible for the meltdown
Yeah!
David O'Brien
September 29th, 2011
8:21 pm
Thanks for all the articles & post-game quotes(love those) all year long. For us TBS babies around the country that don’t get our TBS heroin anymore, the blog is the best way to get our fix these days. – iowabrave
You’re more than welcome. And stay off the white horse. (smile)
ab initio
September 29th, 2011
8:27 pm
I’m Fredi Gonzalez, and I support this message…
FREDI
September 29th, 2011
8:29 pm
Enter your comments here
Kimbrel rocks
September 29th, 2011
8:29 pm
hey tampa bay is a southern team….might be better off rooting for them anyway
Fredi
September 29th, 2011
8:33 pm
Hey folks, I made out the lineup cards, even walked to home plate and handed it to the ump. What more do you expect from me? The team is made up of professional players so they should know how to do their job. You folks are never satisfied.
ax man
September 29th, 2011
8:33 pm
Fire the whole coaching staff! Dismal performance.They proved that they can’t motivate the players.
USAF Retired
September 29th, 2011
8:35 pm
Maybe the Braves could save some dough by not having a hitting coach….or just let Chipper be a player/coach in his final year…bound to do a better job than Parish.
Matt
September 29th, 2011
8:35 pm
That’s it, I’m through with this team. No desire to win, and no guts to fire someone who sucks. Good riddance losers.
bravofano
September 29th, 2011
8:41 pm
This is why I will not be back. It’s like he just doesn’t care. Everyone is back when you make the playoffs and compete. Hanson and JJ were not the cause of this meltdown. Uninspired play, poor management, hitting instruction, and overall lack of offense. Anyone can see the problem. On base percentage blows as well. “Everyone is back.” What a frickin joke. I wish everyone could fail at their jobs and still be back. Let’s just blame this on the economy and Obama. That is what Fredi should have done.
Gomer Pyle
September 29th, 2011
8:49 pm
Geez, talk about a knee-jerk reaction: one day after a debacle and the crew of the Titanic is coming back for another year of re-arranging deck chairs. I won’t be spending my entertainment dollars at the Ted, that’s for sure.
George Stein
September 29th, 2011
8:51 pm
How does Fredi still have a job today? He spent the whole season mismanaging this team. I think this calls Wren’s judgment into question now.
kdawg1017
September 29th, 2011
8:52 pm
im pretty sure that roger mcdowell had a terrible year his first year and everyone here was saying fir him give him one more shot maybe the players progress for him like our pitchers did for roger
BosnianBaller
September 29th, 2011
8:55 pm
DOB if you were GM what would you do?
teeheehee
September 29th, 2011
8:58 pm
Enter your comments here
JR from Iowa
September 29th, 2011
9:00 pm
MaCann goes to his brother.
Chipper talks to his Dad
Herward talks to Chipper
WAY DO WE NEED A HITTING COACH?
teeheehee
September 29th, 2011
9:01 pm
1… 2… fredi’s comin’ for you
3…4… better buy some more…
5…6… 6 packs of Coors
7… 8… don’t stay up late
9… 10… and be tricked by the sorry excuse for management and coaching and hitting and pitching lame braves that trick you every season for the past 20 years except for one that David Justice made us win
discuss.
Sparky Anderson
September 29th, 2011
9:05 pm
“On the morning of Aug. 26, the Braves were up 9 ½ games in the National League wild card race and 10 ½ games on the Cardinals, who were a game behind the Giants at the time. Former Baseball Prospectus statistician Clay Davenport calculated Atlanta’s odds of making the playoffs at that point by simulating the remainder of the season a million times and gave them a 98.99 percent chance, or barely more than a one-percent chance of failing to make the playoffs.”
That’s from SI.com, and we’re to believe no changes are necessary after one of the most amazing debacles in baseball history? God willing, Liberty Media will sell the Braves to someone with spirit and we’ll be rid of the vampires running this team. It’s disgraceful.
jw
September 29th, 2011
9:16 pm
Braves have no fire and all starts with the manager
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
9:19 pm
Mr. Enigma,
Dang it, another typo! I meant “contending” team. My mistake, gang. Those Nats give everybody fits, though. Still, the Phillies will soon realize that Prince Albert, Holliday and Big Puma ain’t no easy out!
Kimbrel rocks,
Now that’s the spirit! Don’t let these bitter people in Philly get you boys down! The Braves have been a solid organization for many and they didn’t need a $150M+ payroll to do it! Always remember that! YOU WILL BE BACK IN 2012! Maybe a Rays-Braves matchup in next year’s World Series, eh?
GO RAYS GO!!!!!!!!!!
The Future
September 29th, 2011
9:20 pm
2012 Braves season:
yawn, chipper’s hurt again
yawn, no one goes to the games, because we suck
yawn, the braves can’t hit
yawn, jair & hanson are very fragile little whiny babies
yawn, happy 60th looking b-day jason “the loser” heywood
yawn, dan cooly uggla aka mr. 1/3 season
yawn, fredi g & alex g, marlins rejects
yawn, lowe, i can’t pitch but they keep paying me, cool
yawn, diaz & wilson? please, bring back keith lockhart
One-Eyed Mac
September 29th, 2011
9:23 pm
This morning I said I was not ready to run Fredi out of town yet….I’m now a step closer to that point. If he wants to go down with Parrish, so be it.
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
9:25 pm
One more thing: Tell your GM Wren to take a look at the Willngham kid out in Oakland. He hits for power (almost 30HR), has a great attitude and is from Alabama, if I’m not mistaken. Probably only cost you about 15-16M total for a two year deal, too. He’d be a GREAT fit for the Braves out in LF. Just move Prado to utility and start grooming him to take over at 3B.
RWO, Bro!
NagoyaBrave
September 29th, 2011
9:27 pm
This is the most ridiculous news I’ve heard. As a fan since the Hank Aaron era, I have a right to complain. Anybody out there calling us morons or idiots for our remarks about the Atlanta Braves organization needs to think about it. We, the fans, are the ones who support this team, make it go round, give them the millions to buy Porches and mansions in Buckhead, etc. Without us, these guys (well probably not these guys, just the ones who love baseball) would be in a corn field somewhere or in an alleyway, playing catch, losing balls in the corn or busting out windows, whichever. We have a right to speak our mind, and probably 99% are in aggreement that this “announcement” is totally uncalled for. It does show you that these good-old-boys are living high and mighty in their gold castle in the sky, totally out of touch with the reality of the fans, the people who line their pockets, cheer for them no matter what. What’s scary is that this team is good enough to win in spite of the coaching. So I say they will be in contention again next year. How many future HOFers did Bobby have? At least four. So no matter what Fredi says or does, it comes down to the players. They are proud, grown men and will make themselves better in spite of their coaches.
bostonbravo
September 29th, 2011
9:36 pm
wow…love it…I was going to cancel my mlbtv sub. for next year tomorrow…see others beat me to it.
Let’s NOT go to games until REAL changes are made.
Coach
September 29th, 2011
9:43 pm
I sincerly hope that the comments by Fredi about keeping the entire coaching staff was simply an outburst on his part. We all know that Parrish has never coached in the fine arts of hitting( and the numbers don’t lie), but give me a freakin break. SOMEONE has to be held accountable. Just because Fredi says they are all coming back, what does that mean?? Is he the manager/GM? Upper management has to take a long look at the coaching staff (and they’ll have all of October and the rest of the year to evaluate). Chipper Jones has stated that the best hitting coach that he ever had was Don Baylor, and guess where he is now???? ARIZONA!! Maybe he only signed a 1 year deal with them, and the Braves can open their wallet a little and get him back. If the entire staff comes back. I’d be shocked. DOB tweeted earlier in the year that there was issues with Parrish and the players, that there was possibly friction there. That would have been the time to make a change. Chipper was seen at times helping Heyward in the cage with his mechanics toward the ladder part of the year. I think its sad that current players have more knowledge and potential coaching ability as the coaching staff. I see Lowe gone in the offseason, and us eating 3/4 of his salary, and I’m ok with that. With the $4 million that we would save, we could land another strong arm in the pen. Though, I’m not sure anyone would want a 17 game loser on their team. Changes would have to be made to make the fans realize that a ton of mistakes were made that cost us the season as well as the playoffs. TP wasn’t the greatest hitting coach, but hell, he got in there and worked his fat little tail off in the cage and putting forth a conscious effort with his players. Think about it, when TP was the coach, he was always talking with andruw and the players either before or after an at bat. How many times did you guys see players go to Parrish for advice or questions during a game? NEVER!!! How many times did you see Parrish go to the players to talk about anything? NEVER! I hope someone in the office over there looks at these comments from fans or former fans as a way to let them know that this city is pissed.
bobbymahlon
September 29th, 2011
9:51 pm
Basically Prado was a utility man this year as he played leftfield,third base and first base. Remember he was an allstar second baseman last year. Lets not give up on him because he had one bad year after setting out because of a bad infection.
Brandon
September 29th, 2011
9:51 pm
Strange.. the FIRST guy that should start packing is making this bold of a statement….
Peytonallen
September 29th, 2011
9:56 pm
I certainly understand everybody’s frustration, but who here honestly expects changes? Fredi should be given the right to judge and hold his staff together, certainly after his first year on the job.
I know it’d make many of you eternally happy to see Parrish fired, but most of you wanted TP gone last year. If this team was broken offensively a year ago, and is today…who’s fault is it? A better question would be what type of offensive team did Parrish inherit?
I missed the cheerleading and constant ejections of Bobby, but what other manager does either of those things? A month ago LaRussa had all but worn out his welcome in St. Louis, now he’s a genius again. I thought Fredi did a good job. He stuck with Kimbrel when many of you wanted Venters to close and in turn he helped foster one of the great, young, closers in the game. He changed the batting order often, he played the hot hand. It’s not his fault for much of the second half the Braves were forced to go with 2013’s starting rotation.
Is it Fredi or Parrish’s fault McCann hit under .200 the last two months of the season? Heyward was in a funk coming out of spring training, Prado never backed up the year he turned in last season. Players having bad years isn’t an Atlanta problem. Look at Crawford in Boston. It happens. But does the hitting coach get credit for turning Uggla around? For Freeman’s season? For Chipper being better this year than he was last?
The reality is our starting pitching through injury and poor performance let us down, and a couple key players never got it going all year. You couple that with the fact that because we’re a corporate owned team on a fixed budget, the Braves are operating as a low income team and have to heavily rely on low cost options and the farm.
This team was a weird mix of veterans and young players, guys like Chipper Jones, Hudson and Lowe were caught in the crosshairs of more or less a rebuilding project.
If the Braves trade Heyward they’re idiots. But, they have to get the kid headed back in the right direction. This team won’t spend on Rollins or Reyes, so we’re looking to go young or cheap at short again. The questions are do you shop Prado for a legit Left fielder and do you trade some pitching for a proven starting pitcher?
Can we count on Hanson?
In both collapses this year, Boston and Atlanta were two teams that were slowly leaking air, via pitching depth, etc.
If Atlanta makes the right moves (which can be done within their budget) and Heyward returns to form this team can challenge the Phillies. It didn’t happen this year, but really, we had no bullets left to fire at anyone in October.
Atlanta Braves
September 29th, 2011
10:13 pm
Did you honestly think we’d do anything substantive to improve the club? We don’t care. We just want your money.
Mark
September 29th, 2011
10:19 pm
Why bring Parrish back when the Braves couldn’t hit their way out of a wet paper bag? Also, they strike out way too much and don’t do the little things when there are men on base.
bravesfaninNashville
September 29th, 2011
10:28 pm
As if we didn’t already know this… This PROVES that Fredi is a terrible choice to do what’s best for this team. He is a pleaser and not a manager. Pleasers do not usually make good business decisions. I’m sorry but Frank Wren now needs to prove to me that he is not just a pleaser and Fire Fredi. This should be done no later than the end of the day tomorrow. I like many others here on this blog know that if he is not replaced I will not take this team seriously. Even if they made the playoffs this year I’m convinced he would have been exposed quickly and out-manuevered as he was by Tony LaRussa who had a 10-1/2 game disadvantage as of Aug 25. It only would have taken one win against the Cardinals to make the last weekend meaningless but he couldn’t get it done. Tony had almost no margin for error and got it done while Fredi had countless opportunities and blew them all..
bravesfaninNashville
September 29th, 2011
10:33 pm
I’ve been checking sports headlines all day hoping that the silver lining in the dark cloud was getting to hear that the Braves have fired Fredi G.
That would give me hope that they were doing something to get this team back on the right track.
smoltz29
September 29th, 2011
10:33 pm
If Fredi manages this team for 100 years, he still won’t be a pimple on the great Bobby Cox’s ass! WE MISS YOU BOBBY!
smoltz29
September 29th, 2011
10:35 pm
Prado must be traded, he’s another version of Omar Infante! How about a year’s rental of Carlos Beltran- a professional hitter? Can’t be worse than 12 hrs and 60 rbis out of left field!
bravesfaninNashville
September 29th, 2011
10:38 pm
Dear Atlanta Braves Front Office,
Please reward your fans that you just allowed to endure one of the worst collapses in sports history with enough respect to ensure us that it will NEVER happen again at the hands of the man who let it happen this time.
Please Fire Fredi Gonzalez today.
Sincerely
A long time loyal Braves fan who spends lots of hard earned money on a team he and his family loves.
Braves R A Joke
September 29th, 2011
10:38 pm
That is why its so easy to not order the MLB package next season. This team will finish worse next season then they did this season in the win/loss column. This coaching staff is so predictable its not even funny. Maybe a lot of Heyward’s struggles this season were because of Larry Parish. That is not to far fetched to believe as several Braves had a down season this year.
All I know is that there is no way that all the Braves coaches should be returning. The one thing that the Braves front office could do to get fans back on board is to make a coaching hire that would be a huge PR move. Say like hire David Justice to be the hitting coach, or maybe bring in Smoltz or Glavine to be the pitching coach. If one or both of those moves happened, I would probably even order the package again from the start because I would believe the hype like I have done for so many years now. As it sits now, I don’t believe their hype and I am not spending my time or money on this team any longer.
The Answer
September 29th, 2011
10:38 pm
Here’s the Answer: the people of Atlanta should take this into their own hands, and begin circulating a petition vowing to not attend another Brave game until Freddi Gonzales is gone. Get enough signatures, and presto! Goodbye Freddi. You’ve got to hit them in their bottom line, folks. That’s the only kind of reason they’ll listen to.
Braves R A Joke
September 29th, 2011
10:44 pm
Also, if Frank Wren allows the coaching staff to remain intact, it will send a huge sign to me that he doesn’t care about anything. They collapsed tremendously in 3 weeks, someone needs to be used as an example, and it needs to start with a coach on this staff, preferably Fredi I TIP MY CAP TO EVERYONE Gonzalez.
bravesfaninNashville
September 29th, 2011
10:46 pm
The Answer….. I’l sign your petition…….. how many others will?
Proof in the Pudding
September 29th, 2011
10:47 pm
Enter your comments here
phoenix
September 29th, 2011
10:51 pm
2012 is gonna be great! Chipper & Lowe will be one year older! J-Hey’s sophomore slump year will be behind him! Uggla will hit .200 and a bunch of solo homers! Alex Gonzalez will never take a walk, and swing at anything between the on-deck circles! Brian McCann & Eric Hinske will buy stock in Krispy Kreme! David Ross will get paid more, and play even less! The Braves may find more bargain-basement relievers like Proctor & Linebrink! AND: all the coaches will be back! Watch out Phillies…the 2012 Braves are stacking up pret-ty solid, if you ask me.
Proof in the Pudding
September 29th, 2011
10:52 pm
If anyone doubts the ineptitude of the Braves coaches, just take a look at the former Braves and how they do under another hitting coach. Did anyone notice that the Royals had the 4th best BA in the majors this year? And who was their best hitter? Melky Cabrera! And who was their third best hitter? Jeff Francour! And who was the next best hitter on the Blue Jays after Bautista? Yunel Escobar! Come on guys. If I was a Braves hitter I’d beg to go to another team so I could revive my career.
bravesfaninNashville
September 29th, 2011
10:53 pm
I’ve seen some people comparing Fredi to Terry Francona because Boston is not blaming the collapse on Francona… First of all Terry is the manager that Broke The Curse and won 2 world series for Boston. He has proven he can lead a team to the top of the mountain twice and therefor deserves a pass here. He also wasn’t consistently out managed he had no pitching at the end and lost Youk and several players went cold at the same time that Tampa’s pitching got red, no make that white hot. If he had even one more pitcher that he could have counted on he would have won the WC. Fredi had Teheren and Delgado sitting available and chose to pitch Lowe again and again down to the last week of the season. Just one win in those key 6 loses at the end and we’re not having this blog. Fredi needs to go…. Sorry… nice man , weak leader….
mpimentel
September 29th, 2011
11:05 pm
who that hell fredi thinks he are…man you aren´t sure for the next season neither…such a mediocre cuotes about a man who managged a team to the biggest collapse in national league history..BS…
mpimentel
September 29th, 2011
11:15 pm
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING FREDI I´VE BEEN A BREVA FOR MUCH MUCH TIME THAN YOU… ok you as a managger and myself as a fan but I have plenty of knowledge in baseball ¨not because I´d preffered go to college instead of play a lottery in my country pro baseball´s rules (i’m from rep dom)”…if someboddy near of you are in this planet have to tell you this: You are a mediocre managger with pleantly of talent to be in post-season and instead of support your coaching staff you have to figure out how the whole baseball world can forget the worst collaps in NATIONAL LEAGUE HISTORY…forget about melky, francoeur and escobar,even kotchman hits better out of braves’s town
We can beat those Cheese Steaks!
September 29th, 2011
11:24 pm
Fredi=Jim Moron, CLUELESS!
Insanity to bring him and his whole staff back after being punked like that. His team played like a bunch of sissies!
Unacceptable performance from those over paid underachievers…
Maria
September 29th, 2011
11:35 pm
Someone posted a link to Liberty Mutual earlier today and I can’t find it now. Will you please report that?
JAFO
September 30th, 2011
12:00 am
Well said BFN. Absolutely no comparison. To come out with this ridiculous announcement this soon is a PR disaster despite the tolerance of mediocrity in this town. Spend 10 minutes listening to boston radio and understand what true passion about the game is. We deserve all of the criticism of loserville. As someone mentioned from an SI writer- ‘what time is kickoff tomorrow?’ Zero accountability. Listen/watch how the sox handle their meltdown and understand how REAL baseball teams deal with failure. FW should be utterly embarrassed by his mgr making this announcement the DAY AFTER a historic collapse.
Denver Braves
September 30th, 2011
12:01 am
we need to add a better/more productive bat. and how is larry parrish? why is Terry P not the batting coach, or have chipper platoon between batting coach and third,
go get kemp in the outfield, maybe tulowitski, make a big deal that will attrack fans, get lowe out of there
JAFO
September 30th, 2011
12:12 am
An absolutely stunning display of managerial incompetence not only last evening but all season. He was over matched and unable to stay ahead of the game. STH who attended 60+. I will not renew until FG is removed. A vote of ‘no confidence.’ i will not allow my loyalty to be exploited any longer. Why are we forced to accept mediocrity with our baseball team? Does that make me a fair weather fan? No, it makes me an informed consumer.
An Angry Fan
September 30th, 2011
12:18 am
Fredi must go! Fredi must go! Fredi must go! Fredi must go! Fredi must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
M
September 30th, 2011
12:19 am
WHAT??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? INTACT????? MAN GO INTACT YO A$% IN A CHAIR AND WATCH THE PLAYOFFS DUDE.
Check it out!
September 30th, 2011
12:22 am
Not the same sport—but Mike Shula came to Alabama and kept all the same coaches and never fired any of them!! And where is he today??? Gone and Bama is back—fire Fredi G!!!
M
September 30th, 2011
12:26 am
IN THE REAL WORLD IF YOU ARE NOT PRODUCING YOU ARE LAID OFF OR FIRED. I WONDER IF PEOPLE CAN GO BACK TO THEIR FORMER JOB AND GET INTACKED?????
Smoove Criminal
September 30th, 2011
12:36 am
All I can say is I’m glad I don’t have Frank Wren’s job right now. That announcement couldn’t have been timed more poorly.
Tucson AZ
September 30th, 2011
12:37 am
If someone puts a website together to get FG and LP fired please post it on the blog,I’m sure you would get a million signatures.
Smoove Criminal
September 30th, 2011
12:38 am
Well, I take that back. It could have been announced 24 minutes after the conclusion of the game last night and not 24 hrs.
Tdavis
September 30th, 2011
12:48 am
I wish we had the phillies management. They dont mind going out picking up the pieces they need to stay on top. Frank and Fredi should take a page out of their book or continue to be losers…
Rob In Fayetteville
September 30th, 2011
12:50 am
Folks, we can send all the petitions in the world, with thousands of signatures (someone suggested one of my posts be sent to Liberty Media), and the “powers that be” will place them in the “Fan Suggestion Box,” also known as the garbage can.
The Atlanta Braves are not so much a baseball team as they are a PRODUCT, and as long as enough people will go see that product, and buy their team jerseys, caps, balls, and other assorted stuff to bring in revenue, then all the squabbling in the world won’t accomplish anything.
The Braves’ front office and management are tone deaf, that’s for certain. They seem more interested in maintaining a tradition than in fielding a baseball team that is fundamentally sound and has enough fortitude to compete with the big boys. Fredi Gonzalez is part of that “tradition,” being a lieutenant for Bobby Cox for so long, and now following in his footsteps as manager. The Braves’ coaching staff also are tuned in to that “traditional formula,” the whole “strong pitching, defense, and timely hitting” bit, but if these guys can’t perform under pressure, all that falls by the wayside.
The Braves seem completely uninterested in changing their approach, even though that same, tired, “business-like, laid-back” attitude clearly hasn’t worked, and it bit them again this year. So expect more tradition in 2012.
What the Braves aren’t going to expect, but will be shocked to find, are all the empty seats at Turner Field because I truly believe the fan base has finally grown sick of tradition.
They want a winner.
Petitions won’t work, but speaking loudly to the front office with your wallet will.
Smoove Criminal
September 30th, 2011
12:54 am
FW and Fredi have no control over that aspect, that falls on Liberty Media who sets the payroll. I will say this though, I think as long as Liberty owns the team and Fredi manages the team they will never get to a World Series much less win one. Liberty is only concerned with padding their pockets from a business standpoint and Fredi wants to be everyone’s buddy and liked by all. Never wants to step on any toes or hurt any feelings.
JAFO
September 30th, 2011
1:06 am
Get Francona NOW!
Bravesfan4life
September 30th, 2011
1:13 am
ARE YOU F********* KIDDING ME, DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU AND YOUR COACHING STAFF IN THE A** ON THE WAY OUT FREDIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We can beat those Cheese Steaks!
September 30th, 2011
2:17 am
Suckers born everyday…
Betcha 55k show on opening day?
That is an arrogant Organization that’s in your face blatant butt holes…Thats why the idiot said he and his staff will be back. Yes they will try and beat Boston’s Epic meltdown…
“Gant, Justice, Grissom, McGriff ”
The Four Horseman!
Now we got Four Hamburgers!
Retired 6 years too late
September 30th, 2011
4:09 am
Would you THINK this organization would do anything differently but announced via Bobby-Lite, that all his staff would be returning for 2012? I’ve never seen a baseball team that can’t BUNT a runner over…………..pitchers usually can bunt to move runner over but not this staff. Hudson is the only pitcher that can do this. This team will end an inning with 4 pitches trown by the opposing picture and our pitcher throws 20 or more pitches to get out of a inning. This goes back to Da Manager! As everyone has said Chipper decides who is added to this roster. He must be someone who is liked in the clubhouse. I don’t care how he gets along in the CLUBHOUSE if he can produce on the feild in clutch situations and help to WIN WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. There is TOO MUCH waste(players) on this team who does nothing to get this team a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. Until Liberty Media SELLS this team the status quo will continue. This team will never be a top tier team to challenge Philly until New OWNERSHIP IS IN PLACE AND THE FRONT OFFICE IS CLEANED OUT!
Randal Patrick McMurphy
September 30th, 2011
6:14 am
As I’ve previously posted: ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY!!!
No surprise either…
Randal Patrick McMurphy
September 30th, 2011
6:16 am
He won’t finish next season as the Braves manager… mark these words…
newnan_dawg1963
September 30th, 2011
6:25 am
Insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results. Albert Einstein Fredi Gonzalez I’m sure that L.P. [Parrish] will sit back and evaluate some things, maybe do some things different, like we all will,” WHAT ? SPRING AND 162
GAMES. Hey Genius you had 162 games to change. you are what you are. MR John Schuerholz
you need to take this team back over NOW! eat the contracts and let him be known as FREDI GONE ZALEZ
davidinvirginia
September 30th, 2011
6:34 am
Of course they’ll all be back…incompetence loves company.
Tommy Boggs
September 30th, 2011
6:46 am
The J-Hey kid was the biggest bust this year and I want to know what the hitting coach did to help him. He stands so far off the plate and swings a telephone pole sized bat. If Parrish couldn’t re-tool his approach at the plate he should have been sent down to the minors. If Heyward could have hit what 39 year old Chipper hit (275. 18 homers, 75-80 rbis) the Braves win wild card walking away.
Couldn’t help but notice that 4th outfielder for Philly (Mayberry) had more homers then any Braves outfielder.
Charlie
September 30th, 2011
6:52 am
Fredi G, The ultimate idiot…”…We hired people to let them do their job…” How in the hell does that idiot figure that Larry Parrish did his job? What criteria does he use? Parrish IS the hitting caoch, right? Did the Braves not have some of the poorest hitting, with RISP? Obviously Parrish is hired to aid hitters. What the hell good did he do? It certainly showed up in the month of September, didn’t it? Of course Fredi himself, sucked for most of the season, inept in game management, and the bullpen staff. He sucked at his job, so I guess the idea is to keep all the losers together, and let them do their magjic another year. Fredi just led his team to the second worst collapse in the history of baseball, yet he stays, and keeps his slack-assed staff together.
LOSERVILLE continues in Atlanta. It’s clear that NO ONE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EPIC COLLAPSE. JUST WITTNESSED IN ATLANTA. IT must have been fate, or karma. If that’s the way it works, why have a coaching staff at all? It’s up to the gods anyway…apparently.
Quite an organization! I guess they deserve Fredi and Larry (and Moe and Curly, and Shep).
mike
September 30th, 2011
7:36 am
really after the way the team played those last three games where charlie out managed fredi ! i think fredi so get fired! we were playing to not lose those games! i was there monday & tue night and it was embarrassing to say the least!
Bravesfan60
September 30th, 2011
7:42 am
The more I hear Freffie Gonzalez talk the more I know that the Braves will go no where with him. It is bad enough that he personally cost the braves 12 to 14 games this year with just boneheaded managerial moves but to act like there is not a problem on this team that the current manager and coaching can’t fix is just stupid. May the braves will trade freddie Gonzalez the way the White Sox traded Ozzie.
Tomahawk Squawk
September 30th, 2011
7:43 am
This is a travesty. No other way to put it.
Larry Parrish coming back for another dismal year? Sad
I live in NY. The Mets organization is constantly being criticized in the papers and on TV but at least they are cleaning house, trimming the fat
The Braves need to trim some FAT too…it starts with the Manager and Hitting Coach.
Gonzalez is the most listless, apathetic, dull, innovative, boring manager that ever put on a uniform
He rates right up there with Art Howe, lol.
Tomahawk Squawk
September 30th, 2011
7:45 am
Great Everyone is coming back.
I guess Derrick Lowe is penciled in as the number five starter again
and Jason Heyward will start in left…and so it goes, and so it goes, and so it goes, and so it goes, …where its going no one knows…..
Tomahawk Squawk
September 30th, 2011
7:47 am
One other thing, Chipper is retiring after next year, Alex Gonzalez is a free agent this year (even if he stays hes like 35yrs old) What is the future of the left side of the infield??? And please dont tell me
Prado takes over at 3rd because he has NO RANGE.
bill
September 30th, 2011
7:54 am
Fredi was sending a message to the fans, and the media. I am the manager and i might get fired in two or three years when the team changes hands but until then, I am untouchable I am Fredi and i am now and have always been an arrogant ahole lapdog to Bobby Cox. When I get fired it will be because I am Hispanic and not because I have played and managed for thirty years and I still do not understand the double switch, the bunt, the hit and run, the double steal, and when to take the trip to the mound. When things are going poorly I move from one side of the dugout to the other to change the mojo. Next year I plan to spread chicken bones in the on deck circle if things do not go well.
I have a serious question. At what level and with what team has Fredi been a champion. It appears he is like the guy who is the most improved player in High School. He isn’t very good but with reduced expectations he can be rewarded for taking mediocre skills personally and team to higher mediocrity. We need a manager who can take us to a championship. Fredi is not that guy. Why is he qualified to manage a major league team? He was a mediocre ball player never over AA. Does not mean he is a bad guy. He did almost have a .500 record at Miami but the team was merely swimming in circles. The team never IMPROVED under Fredi. I am sure the owner and GM tried to suggest some changes and Fredi showed his arrogant butt to them and they canned him. Bobby the ever loyal freind hired him and here we are. Maybe he desrves another chance but how long do we stick with him next year?
jch
September 30th, 2011
8:07 am
insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results – Albert Einstein
Can we move back to Boston where they’ll spend money and make changes when they need to be made?
Sid Smith
September 30th, 2011
8:13 am
This is insane. Less than 24 hours after the end of one of the most disappointing seasons in the club’s history, management announces that there will be no changes. Where is the accountability? Who is running this ship, Fredi or Frank? This announcement tells you just how bad things are with the team. Shame on the GM and the club’s President..
Donovan
September 30th, 2011
8:17 am
“I’m sure L.P. will sit back and evaluate some things, like we all will”. This is typical of how FG rolls. We don’t need any kind of sit back mentality on this team. That’s the damn problem with this team. Those days of “going out and having fun and being loose” need to come to an end. It only enables a playground atmosphere and a team that plays with no sense of heart. Get rid of FG and his merry band of men.
rme
September 30th, 2011
8:17 am
Remember, Kimbrel would not have had that many saves if the Braves hitting, fielding and pitching got them into a win situation. Heyward needs to go to the winter league and work everyday to find what he had last year. Stick with him through Spring Training and if it’s not working…make a change. Derek Lowe needs to go. $15 million salary for a 9-17 season. Not acceptable for a winning club. Constanza is ready to play everyday and along with Bourne, will add a NEW dimension for the Braves…SPEED! If Chipper decides to play another year, good. Even with his knee problems, he is the backbone of the team. He still hits the long ball and is the best on defense. Not sure about Alex Gonzalez. He seems to be Mr. Attitude but I would hate to lose his defense. McCann’s bad hitting in September is something he will get through. Linebrink need to be shown the door. Let’s go Braves. show your fans you mean business and WANT a World Series. Make the changes which need to be made!!!!!
jch
September 30th, 2011
8:18 am
How can you justify doing nothing after a season like this?
Yes, we won 89 games and came perilously close to the playoffs. You can hand those accomplishments to the pitching staff and defense. However, we were 26th in BA – just imagine if we were even AVERAGE in hitting? Where would we be? We might have won the division!!!
You’ve got to look at that and make some changes. Coming out the day after the season ends, especially ending the way it did, and not only saying you’ll keep your staff but going as far as to have already spoken with the staff and confirming their positions are safe is simply nuts.
I don’t see our roster changing significantly so how can we as fans expect to see anything different offensively next season?
afan
September 30th, 2011
8:22 am
Fredi dont care as long as he has a paycheck. Keeping Parrish is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. we were at the bottom in almost every offensive category.
Go ahead Fredi, I dont care anymore. Im tired of this junk every year.
Lets go watch the redsox. at least they seem to have a little fire about what happened to their team.
geez
afan
September 30th, 2011
8:25 am
this business is money driven and fan based. Sometimes you have to do things to appease the fans. Otherwise your job will be short lived. so go ahead Fredi. At least we will know that after you lose again next year we will be that much closer to canning your ……
rme
September 30th, 2011
8:31 am
Wow…you guys are pathetic. I bet you were not talking this way when the Braves had the 81/2 gaqme lead. Things happen and I blame the players and coaches alike. Reviewing what happened after the fact is always a heckuva lot easier than having to make the decisions. Yes, mistakes were made but the big failure came across the board for various reasons. None of our bullen past O’Flaretty, Venters and Kinbrel were worth a crap. Lowe should have been benched a long time ago. Oh…we can’t do that. He is the highest paid player. Who would think McCann would slump when we needed his bat the most. All in all, it cracks me up in April when a team goes on a losing streak and you hear the comment, “It’s only April!” Two years in a row, we have proof…every game matters!!!!! To be a winner, you have to have the mindset to go with who is hot at the time. Heyward needs to work all winter and be required to WIN his position back.
Anon21
September 30th, 2011
8:31 am
I love the Braves, but they’re a zero-accountability franchise. (Unless you commit the unforgivable sin of whistling on the field. Miss ya, Yunel!)
I don’t know if this team’s putrid offensive performance was Parrish’s fault or not, but he should be gone. The team improved its offensive talent over the winter, but hit worse (relative to the rest of the league) than it did last season. That shouldn’t have happened. Either Parrish screwed a lot of good hitters up by forcing them to change their plate approaches, or he had no effect, and the hitters just screwed themselves up. Either way, there is no excuse for bringing him back.
The dream scenario would be Frank Wren stepping in tomorrow and overruling Frediot, announcing that none of the team’s coaching staff–including the Frediot–will be back next season.
varoadrunner
September 30th, 2011
8:34 am
Let it gooooooooo. It’s over! and YES, the Braves collasped in September. Simple as that! For those of you that are fair weathered fans….see ya.
afan
September 30th, 2011
8:51 am
The pitching may have failed some in the end. But this team won because of the pitching.
Our hitting from day one was bad. If we had any kind of offense at all this team would have won the division. NO HITTING is why we ended up where we did.
ijudgenot
September 30th, 2011
9:00 am
There goes Fredi doing his best Bobby Cox imitattion. he gave the exact answer Bobby would have given, but Fredi you are not Bobby. Fredi that question was never asked of Cox during the whole Penndleton era, not once. As Dizzy Dean would say “Pardner the dogs have treed a coon, and you ain’t the dogs”. Trying to show upper management that you are a very good Cox imitator at this juncture, after that epic collapse is not good thinking. I did not read all the responses on this blog, but a fair smpling has 99% against your statement. Many claim to be season ticket holders. Those are the ones Liberty makes its money off of. I thought you might be able to get to spring training and with a few winter tweeks to the team by Wren,be able to generate some fan interest, but man, when asked another question by the media take a deep breath before you answer
jeff
September 30th, 2011
9:04 am
I wasn’t aware we had a coaching staff. No strategy, no motivation, no hitting, no telling the Manager the RP’s were spent. Just stare forward is what Braves players & coaches do. We need Lemke & Greg Olson on that bench -firing these babies up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jch
September 30th, 2011
9:13 am
Jeff, you’re right, the most we heard out of any coach this year was when McDowel threatened a gay couple on tape in front of an arriving crowd.
How he survived that with his job was amazing! However, in light of Fredi being happy with the status quo, I guess it makes more sense now.
rico carty
September 30th, 2011
9:17 am
Nobody is held accountable for anything, it is the BRAVES WAY! Good thing none of these coaches are in Boston.
panamajack
September 30th, 2011
9:28 am
MY FINAL QUOTE; If Fruti, Larry Parrish, Chipper, Lowe and Linebrink are on this team when spring training breaks there will be one less fan next year. I would have included Heyward but if they get a decent replacement for mFredi Gutless then he will deal with Heyward in the proper manner.
Ralph
September 30th, 2011
9:31 am
Fredi said he had asked his entire staff to return, I haven’t heard Wren say he has asked FG to return, if he does then I won’t.
Jimmy G
September 30th, 2011
9:36 am
New manager. New hitting coach. New pitching coach.
Freddi G has too much of the “laid back” Bobby Cox approach. He should have been fired yesterday. We need a manager with fire in his belly. And players like that as well. And don’t leave it up to Chipper to decide if he comes back….give him the boot as well. Maybe that will teach him to leg out ground balls instead of trotting to first.
Freddi
September 30th, 2011
9:40 am
If it’s broke, why fix it?
Tired of Losers
September 30th, 2011
9:45 am
Rob in Fayetteville, on your 12:50 a.m. post- well said!
Tired of Losers
September 30th, 2011
9:47 am
Boycott this dysfunctional organization!!!
Packer Ed
September 30th, 2011
9:51 am
TO THE BRAVES OWNERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT, HAVE YOU NO PRIDE?
The Phillies came in town for meaningless games played all their regulars, eliminated and embarrased the Braves and you are bringing backl your entire on the field managment that give new difinition to losers and chokers?
tina
September 30th, 2011
9:52 am
Agree with everyone FIRE FREDDI hell we cant hit SF. Could of had suicide squeeze 30 times this year with man on third and less than two outs and better chance than SF. Why do we waste money on having a hitting coach. Francour, Milky K Johnson hit better leaving us. McClouth had great year before we got him look what we did with him. WE need to rid are selfs of what I call garbage LOWE Gonzo Sherrill Linebrink Conrad wilson and Moylan just because of his tatoos and ugly face. Trade Prado and JJ for LF that can drive in some runs. Heyward to AAA where he can start over maybe learn how to slide beside head first.To me if Lowe and Gonzo are on this team will not buy season tickets. Make them . learn how to advance a runner and for Chip Carey to shut mouth when when we have ABC inning then fail next 30 times then he says nothing. I to think Freddi should been fired as he is just like Cox. Cox 20 some years one world series hell Brenly from AZ won one in 5 years and has been fired. Now Boston getting rid of theres and he has won two . GO BRAVES 2012 without FREDDI GONZO and MOYLAN.
Don
September 30th, 2011
9:54 am
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING.
The name of the game is PITCHING. How can the Braves ever hope to be competitive with TWO or THREE Or FOUR of their STARTING PITCHERS down with injuries EVERY SINGLE SEASON (since McDowell has been the PC). You may as well not talk about anything else – nothing else matters, will have any real significance – AS LONG AS THIS Continues.
The Braves SHOULD HAVE HAD the core of a GREAT PITCHING STAFF FOR YEARS TO COME – with JJ, Hanson, and Medlin — Now they are ALL DOWN WITH INJURES – and who knows if they will EVER COME BACK and be really effective?????
And THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. In the 6 or 7 years since he has been the Pitching Coach, what have we had – TWO or THREE of our Starters down with injureis EVERY SINGLE SEASON. One year, wasn’t it FOUR out of the FIVE???.
Since he has been the PC, what have we had – about 15 or so different Starting Pitchers — HOW MANY OF THESE, OF ALL OUR STARTERS (if they pitched any length of time) HAVE NOT BEEN INJURED?????
And this doesn’t even memtion injured relief pitchers.
Be it his conditioning program, or the way he handles pitchers, or just plain bad luck — It is way, way past time for a change.
THERE WAS NEVER ANYTHING LIKE THIS UNDER LEO.
Braves Fan Since 1966
September 30th, 2011
10:09 am
Not a really good time for such an announcement. Actually, the timing is totally wrong even if the entire coaching staff is deserving. After such a collossal choke of a performance in the clutch as the Braves delivered in September, you’d think some changes were due. It’s hard to imagine even one person at the management level within the Braves organization thinking this was good timing…or even a good idea. I think that Frank Wren owes Braves fans an apology for his team’s collapse or some kind of statement/action aside from hiring the same coaching staff for another year.
Don
September 30th, 2011
10:21 am
For some teams – when you bring players up or acquire players, they continue to improve/develop significantly as hitters. For the most part, this has not been true with the Braves – They have either not improved or regessed. A couple who have improved, unbelievably had coaching help from family members. If you have incompetentce at the top, this is going to generate to the entire team or most of it.
Stratos
September 30th, 2011
10:21 am
Bringing back the “lack of hitting” coach is just another bad decision in a long line of bad decisions made by Fredi all year long. Can’t wait to see what bad decisions he makes this off season.
Tomahawk Squawk
September 30th, 2011
10:42 am
Bringing back Larry Parish??
Do the Braves know that Uggla-Bourn-Freeman trio were
back to back to back in strikeout totals this year??
You want to know why we get them on base and cant get him?
There is Exhibit A
Tomahawk Squawk
September 30th, 2011
10:45 am
A typical Brave reaction to all this will be that they will make no moves in the offseason.
Sighting the collapse due to injuries to JJ and Hanson.
Wren will feed us his pablum how the current roster was good enough for 89 wins and there is no
need to re-tool.
The only tool will be the fans, for paying money to watch this all over again!
FBGuy
September 30th, 2011
10:49 am
Un-frickin-believable. FGredi wants to bring back his entire staff??? In Boston they’re already making plans to unload John Lackey and some of the screw-ups who contributed to the Six collapse. And in Atlanta we’re hearing the manager say his staff did a good job and deserve to come back? Talk about “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a good job” for FEMA after Katrina! I wasn’t for getting rid of Fredi before this — now let’s clean out the staff entirely. Fresh start.
lexbrave
September 30th, 2011
10:53 am
just wanted to point out that the red sox blew a 9 1/2 game lead and it’s being reported that they just fired francona. the dude that managed them to 2 championships.
and we can’t even get a new hitting coach after our collapse.
No cap to Tip
September 30th, 2011
10:55 am
Fredi’s announcement is the equivalent of “tipping his cap” to his coaching staff. I don’t know which – if any – need to be fired at this juncture. It’s early. But this announcement so early was a bad (see comments above) PR move. Something went horribly wrong, and unless Fredi has already pinpointed it and has tested his hypothesis AND the solution ( and we know there hasn’t been time for that) his message should have been – “We need to analyze the problem and start working toward a solution and that includes possible personnel changes, including the coaching staff. This was unacceptable and will not happen again under my watch or I deserve to be fired.” That message resonantes better among the fan base (the source of a large part of the $$$ to pay these guys) than “LA DI DAH, LA DI DAH”)
Michael M Beard
September 30th, 2011
10:56 am
What a bone headed decision to keep Parrish. I do not know why Wren replace Pendelton.
LOSERS
September 30th, 2011
10:58 am
Fredi please tip your cap with it on your head into a running chain saw. That’s all!
fuzzmeister
September 30th, 2011
11:10 am
WOW- We waste no time confirming more of the same next year! Oh me oh my. Dudes we have problems!!! HELLO is anyone out there?
Fred
September 30th, 2011
11:10 am
Loyal to a fault – just like Bobby Cox!
Looks like we are end for another decade of “good but not great” baseball in Atlanta! Not sure this is what we the fans expected or desired with this “seamless” transition.
While I agree with not having to look over their shoulder each day there is the matter of performance. It does not appear Fredi even evaluated their effectiveness before resigning. Disappointing.
StatusQuo
September 30th, 2011
11:20 am
Fredi: I anticpate a hell of a performance from my coaching staff & D. Blowe next season and that’s why everyone’s coming back; and if we get swept by the Phils again, I’ll tip my cap to them and anyone else who dismantles us…..
Coach (2011 Fredi G. FAILED)
September 30th, 2011
11:21 am
Yea, Fredi Failed and here is how……..
Day one, Fredi went with two rookies in Brandon Hicks and Matt Young, then proceeded to let them rot on the bench before sending both back to the minors.
He went with Derek Lowe as the Braves opening day starter, nothing could have stung more for Tim Hudson. The ensuing season proved Fredi wrong in his assessment of his pitching staff.
Fredi’s decision to bat Prado at the top of the Braves order was a disaster right from the word go. Prado did hit .283 with an OBP of .323 but he also stole one base, scored an anemic 28 runs in 47 games, and got caught four times before Fredi finally wised up while realizing foot speed was more important.
The bullpen. Fredi burned’em and I’m talking toast. The man simply overworked Kimbrel, Venters and O’Flaherty. They were all gassed at the end…all three.
But what has got me steaming mad, ticked off and ready to throw Fredi under the bus is one single game. The one where Fredi showed such poor judgement that he arguably blew their whole season.
I’m talking about 19 inning affair on July 26th. I watched the whole damn thing. I saw McCann come up lame in the third inning with the sore oblique again. I watched Fredi keep Mac in the game into the tenth inning when McCann really did severely injure his oblique in extra innings. Mac went on the DL and never recovered his swing afterward. All because our manager didn’t have the common sense to bring Ross into the game knowing his catcher was already hurting.
As for Fredi’s decision to keep marching Derek Lowe out to the mound game after game…..the results speak for themselves. Only suicide could have been more effective at tanking the entire season.
Finally, yanking Chipper out of the three hole was robbing Peter to pay Paul. The switch went nowhere fast and really irked Chipper in the process. In the end Fredi showed impatience, indecision, poor judgement and really disappointed this fan beyond words.
b
September 30th, 2011
11:40 am
Fredi, thanks for benching jConstanza for the month of Sept. so Bourn,Diaz,Prado. and Heyward
could get all the playing time.
What did Georgie do to Fredi to warrant the benching.
He went hitless two starts in a row and never got to start more than one game in a row again.
Worst treatment of a player I’ve seen from the braves since 1966.
whaaa!
September 30th, 2011
11:41 am
All of you arm chair coaches quit whining and focus your negativity on football now!
Ted
September 30th, 2011
11:52 am
This decision is exactly what we have learned to expect from Fredi’s degree of wisdom.
Ted
September 30th, 2011
11:55 am
Perez was the only keeper, only coach whose attitude sells tickets.
Ted
September 30th, 2011
11:57 am
Wren needs to be fired if he allowed Fredi to make this decision without consultation and justification. ,
FreddiFearless
September 30th, 2011
12:11 pm
“You want coaches to be able to come in here and work in a good environment and not be looking over their shoulders worried about that kind of stuff.”
“That kind of stuff”, like good performance, Freddi?
Braves Fan Since 1966
September 30th, 2011
12:13 pm
I think I figured out what happened. Braves top brass was meeting on Thursday morning and they were trying desperately to figure out how they could divert attention from the players. Suddenly someone says “I know what we should do. Let’s hire all the coaches back and see if that works.”
Philly Man
September 30th, 2011
12:16 pm
A very wise move on Frank Wren’s part.
If he’d only keep Derek Lowe and Chipper Jones around a few more years, that will guarantee Phillie domination in the NL East into the next decade.
ghostwriter
September 30th, 2011
12:16 pm
I like our coaching staff, with Larry Parrish and Carlos Tosca being the only one in question. I hope that Chipper becomes out hitting coach once he retires. I think we need a new bench coach, too, since that was a big weakness of ours this year.
The real issue is getting a new OWNER. Preferably one with a face. We need more money.
E
September 30th, 2011
12:24 pm
This organization is a country club.
bobby
September 30th, 2011
12:30 pm
Heyward’s OBP is a joke. Probably a third of his hits were just balls that he almost missed and he was able to beat out because of his speed.
jpc
September 30th, 2011
12:35 pm
That’s unbelievable!! The Braves fans poured their hearts into supporting this year’s team, suffering just like the players and coaches. Jeff’s article yesterday must have broken a record of fans’ “comments” — we’re not all stupid,either. Then, the next morning, Wren and Gonzalez announce there are no changes to anything, like saying,”Screw all you fans’ input. What do you know? If there’s anything broken, WE will fix it.”
Well, we doubt it, since you didn’t fix anything when it was all slipping away. It got worse and worse.
Bushwood
September 30th, 2011
12:44 pm
You really have to think about what went on behind closed doors behind this epic fail. Wren and Cox, with Fredi sitting their w/ a stupid yes-man look on his face, made a decision that they would head off any speculation about repercussions or firings by making an announcement like this right away. They think they disarmed a situation, but instead have just poured gas on a fan base on fire,, which highlights the stupidity that is in place and underlines a few things. They would never admit that they made the wrong decision with Fredi because that threatens job security,, no matter how easy it is to see where he clearly failed this team and this fan base. They instead will put the focus on the players that did not deliver and marry it up with injuries and bad breaks ,, thereby putting the spotlight somewhere else. If Parrish is Wrens buddy, then this thing also wreaks of nepotism at it’s finest ..again see: job security. They think that this was just one of those unfortunate anomalies that occurs when the wheel gets spun and lands on a victim versus anything that is measured thru accountability and and attitude of “how did this happen?”. They also are counting on hope springing eternal come Spring and a fan base w/ short memories,,,who is forgiving. That is where they are wrong in a big way. If they don’t think this will damage the already poor home attendance next year, they they are mistaken. The manner in which this announcement came within 24 hours has me so upset that I will not attend one game ,,and I attended around 12 this year ( yeah, I know,, big deal) and will not support this team. I will just read box scores in 2012 and spend my time with my family in a more productive way.
Amos Magliocco
September 30th, 2011
12:47 pm
Boston fires their world-series winning manager after a collapse, and the Braves retain their whole coaching staff? Incredible. I was accustomed in the 90’s to seeing zero consequences for failing to win championships, but this is something completely different. At least those 90’s clubs won the pennant every other year. Do the Braves really expect people to buy merchandise and tickets when the only consequences for this disaster are the fans’ broken hearts? Wow.
TiredofTheBraves
September 30th, 2011
1:19 pm
Mike Smith of the Falcons takes the blame. Fredi is a punk comfy with his pay check. Screw this bum fire him NOW!!! Or we will waist another 8 months of baseball.
Komminsk
September 30th, 2011
1:19 pm
We as fans should expect more of the same in 2012. Time to rethink season tickets.
Methinks
September 30th, 2011
1:24 pm
Methinks that FreddiFearless at 12:11 nailed it
“You want coaches to be able to come in here and work in a good environment and not be looking over their shoulders worried about that kind of stuff.”
“That kind of stuff”, like good performance, Freddi?
Well said FreddiFearless. “That kind of stuff”…..in other words, there should be ABSOLUTELY NO FEAR of being fired. Wow…let me know how that works out for you…you stunningly inept idiot.
The especially damaging part about this epic collapse (where do you begin, I know) is that even if the Braves are outstanding for 80% or more of the season next year…don’t expect fans to buy into the hype…expect empty seats…expect no Kool Aid to be drank, because you just showed….yet again…for the nine bazillionth time…that you are a gutless club that is capable of blowing ANYTHING to pieces. I’d like to hear one…JUST ONE player or coach for this team quoted as being angry beyond words about this….call out some people if need be…what the heck is it going to hurt? Show You Care!!!!
I’ve got two young boys who are just old enough now to really get into MLB…but there is no way I’m going to spend my money to take them to a game to show them this gutless organization… fire the coach…fire the hitting coach…and heck, fire any player who isn’t beyond outraged at this.
COME ON!
September 30th, 2011
1:25 pm
Management doesn’t understand that they are out of synch with their fans and the public in general. Even if you plan to keep the same coaches and players and try it all over again and see if there is a different outcome…. why would you slap your fans in the face and announce within 24 hours that all is well and we are sticking with all the same folks? Don’t they understand how to at least appear to be sympathetic with their fans?
Pat McGroin
September 30th, 2011
1:29 pm
It must feel reassuring to Sox fans to see their brain trust meeting and seriously discussing what happened and how it MUST change…. It must be really nice….
Lee in S GA
September 30th, 2011
1:32 pm
All these coahes staying well ..whoopie doopie doo…I wish Fredi was my supervisor at work.
southern hope
September 30th, 2011
1:38 pm
MeThinks, i agree with you. And I’ve only been getting angrier over the past 24 hours…and another thing is that there has been *zero* communication with the fan base….I can’t help but contrast us with Boston….who are out there being berated by their fans…but at least they’re out there. Has Frank Wren made any statement? Has anybody said anything meaningful. I sent a scathing (well, scathing by mild standards) to the Braves organization and have received zero feedback (not even an auto-response) and I’m the kind of fan they want to keep….my family and i attend 11 home games this year and have spent literally thousands of dollars. No more.
bronkelliott
September 30th, 2011
1:48 pm
Franco gone who has won 2 world series and the Braves entire staff retained.. Really? Don’t understand this organization. time to change the country club mentality of doing business…
PR Braves Fan
September 30th, 2011
1:55 pm
Larry Parish have to go, Fredie is protecting Wren decision on hiring him, I remember the main target for the job was Don Baylor but he decided for the D`backs job and see what a great job he has done for them. A.Gon is an asset on the defensive side of the ball but in this division u have to hit on all cylinders to win and I got tired of him striking out or hitting to double plays, Pastornicky has done a great job hitting .300 at AAA and he`s a speedy guy with a great on-base %, hitting 2nd could be great, this team is in good track it was a shame we lost or 2 best starters to injuries but this offensive melt down cannot be tolerated, our bullpen fell apart on the last series because to many close and extra inning games. Parrish contract should not be extended, Heyward is going nowhere, Braves wont sell low on that kind of talent, Francour just had a great season in Kansas city, bring a new hitting coach who encorage the on-base % and situational hitting, too many guys left on third
nique
September 30th, 2011
1:56 pm
Would have been nice for Fredi to have given Parrish some time to develop some adjustments for next season and present them to Fredi before automatically saying he wants LP back.
hunter55
September 30th, 2011
2:01 pm
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!Really, what an organization. Made history for losing and all is well, I’m frigging done with these idiots!!!!!!!
EX-BRAVE FAN
September 30th, 2011
2:16 pm
IF THE BRAVES DO NOT MAKE ANY COACHING CHANGES THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU STOP PURCHASING TICKETS TO THE GAMES. AS LONG AS PEOPLE PURCHASE TICKETS TO THE GAMES BRAVES MANAGEMENT COULD CARE LESS WHAT ANY OF US THINK.
tennisbrave
September 30th, 2011
2:30 pm
According to a report from USA Today, Francona is out as the Red Sox manager. Maybe they will come after Fredi and he can take his coaching staff with him to Boston.
batman
September 30th, 2011
2:33 pm
I”ve been a Braves fan back, when they were drawing 1200 to a game. I quit. Switching
to the Nationals.
REALLY?
September 30th, 2011
2:56 pm
Red Sox firing their manager and we can’t even get rid of Parrish. Really?
The Monger
September 30th, 2011
2:57 pm
PATHETIC!!! HORRID DECISION!! I will not be attending any Braves games in 2012 out of disgust for this decision. As someone already pointed out this decision alone tells you how #%$%ed we are as a team, with a manager who is too stupid and hardheaded to objectively analyze the performance of this team and coaching staff, especially the last month of the season, where the team literally fell apart in almost every game. The bullpen faltered when we needed them the most, the offense was putrid and downright anemic for almost the entire year, the starters ERAs rose dramatically the last couple months, late inning collapses gallore, mismanagement of the bullpen, terrible late game hitting with RISP, general malaise attitude, veterans not stepping up and rookies who self-destructed by seasons end… I could go on and on, but this coaching staff obviously lost us quite a few games with poor decisions, the offensive production dropped for EVERY member of the Braves offense this year, and the pitching fell apart and the remaining starters were lit up constantly at the end of the year. The coaches should be fired for a thousand reasons, Larry Parish and Freddi Gonzalez are way over their heads and should be axed immediately. I think Roger McDowell should be on thin ice as well, after the pitchers collapsing. Then too make matters worse Freddi wants to bring the entire staff back of this EPIC collapse, with NO DEDICATED, ACROSS THE BOARD, OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS OF EVERY COACH AND PLAYER AND EVERY POSITION!!! He truly is the stupidest manager in MLB, HAS no CLUE, and should be fired IMMEDIATELY IF I WAS WREN!!!
The Monger
September 30th, 2011
3:04 pm
NO offense for most of the year, no clutch hitting, no hitting with RISP, no fundamentals at the plate, and a team that made Houston Astros Double A pitchers look like vintage Greg Maddux….TIP YOUR CAP!!!
Getting shutdown and losing series to powerhouses like the NY Mets, The Washington Nationals, the Chicago Cubs, the San Diego Padres, and the Florida Marlins….TIP YOUR CAP!!!
Going 9-18 down the stretch, and losing your final 5 games of the regular season, the last to a squad of minor leaguers, and losing the wild card on the last day! Only the Braves could do this! Priceless….
TIP YOUR CAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
len
September 30th, 2011
3:16 pm
MLB Trade rumors says the braves are not high on jhay and may look to trade him.
southern hope
September 30th, 2011
3:36 pm
DOB, just saw your tweet that of course Fredi talked with Wren before he offered 2012 contracts to the entire coaching team less than 10 hours after the greatest collapse in sports history.
So that makes it a million times worse for me….given the magnitude of what happened…the first meeting they had in the morning was to re=hire everyone? I’ve given up on this team. This feels *nothing* like last year (an honest loss….to the team that ended up winning the whole thing)…this is just an insult and a scary insight into what must be a clueless organization.
JoeFan
September 30th, 2011
3:40 pm
Prediction:Fredi will be gone by the 2012 all star break. This team needs major changes and it starts with the manager and his staff. There is little to no chance the Braves will be as competitive next year in a division that will see the Nats and Marlins only get stronger. I have never seen nor heard a manager or players with such a litany of cliches and excuses.
PR Braves Fan
September 30th, 2011
3:44 pm
Dany Knobler just tweeted that braves fired Larry Parish
ijudgenot
September 30th, 2011
3:53 pm
len
September 30th, 2011
3:16 pm
“MLB Trade rumors says the braves are not high on jhay and may look to trade him”
If that is true, the Braves organization are dumber than I thought. Even if you are disapointed with Heyward and think you may trade him, you certainly don’t do it now when his trade value may be low. I thought the kid should have been benched for Constanza, but he has more potential than Constanza, so wait until spring. HIRE A NEW HITTING COACH and see if the kid gets his stroke back. .
william in pasaden
September 30th, 2011
3:55 pm
Does anyone have Frank Wren’s e-mail address? If you do, could you please forward it to me at willjaxa10@yahoo.com?
Bravesball1
September 30th, 2011
3:58 pm
of course he can say this knowing his job is actually the one on the line. He should be looking over his shoulder and stop making public statements about things he should have done differetly. Those kind of statements only prove he was a bad manager.
M10
September 30th, 2011
4:03 pm
This is Why the Braves will never win.Any other winning frachise would be talking about firing him but not the sorry a** cheap Atlanta Braves.Just pathetic!
M10
September 30th, 2011
4:05 pm
And if the Braves get rid of Heyward there stupid.
tdc
September 30th, 2011
4:06 pm
They just tweeted Parrish won’t be back.
Braves reverse field, make right call firing Larry Parrish | Jeff Schultz
September 30th, 2011
4:11 pm
[...] our David O’Brien reported in his blog, the Braves ranked 26th in the majors in batting average (.243) and on-base percentage (.308) after [...]
rally
September 30th, 2011
4:14 pm
Congratulations and thanks to all of you who posted. We may well have made an impact if the news on Parrish being fired one day after Fredi’s announcement is true. Well done fellow Braves fans.
MDBravesFan
September 30th, 2011
4:18 pm
I hope the latest is true the Parrish is gone. No way someone doesn’t take responsibility for pathetic offensive nonperformance. Can’t bunt, hit sac flies, no fundamentals – just close your eyes and swing as hard as you can and hope…terrible.
Bobby Cox
September 30th, 2011
4:32 pm
When you compare this team with the 1991 and other early 90 era teams it becomes obvious why we cannot win. We had a some home grown youth with talent 40% that mixed with 60% imported proven veterans, that were hungry for postseason play.
What’s wrong with this team is that, except for Dan Ugla, obviously everyone else can’t wait to get home, get on the couch and put there dogs up and watch the rest of the season on their big screens.
We really need a complete makeover for this team that includes sacking everyone from the owner on down. Bring in some new blood to install a completely different atmosphere in Atlanta.
We have an opportunity to get Ozzie Gullien in here and shake this thing up. I think it’s time to trade Brian McCain and Chipper Jones if we can, if not release them outright, we’ve got better bench players right now available to us, retain 40% of the pitching staff and use some second tier veteran free agents until we can get this thing sorted out. Rather than attempting to make to the playoffs next year let’s change our focus towards building a team that won’t make a goal off not just making it to the playoff’s but will strive to win a World Series.
Not Lee Corso
September 30th, 2011
4:40 pm
NOT SO FAST, MY FRIEND!
Bobby Cox
September 30th, 2011
4:43 pm
Pink Slips: John Schulerholtz, Frank Wren, Fredi Gonzales, Brian McCann, Derek Lowe, Alex Gonzales, Chipper Jones.
Jay Dubu
September 30th, 2011
4:51 pm
“I’m sure that L.P. [Parrish] will sit back and evaluate some things, maybe do some things different, like we all will,” Gonzalez said
Fredi, you need to ask him, so that you can be sure. You can not repeat htis again next season.
a disappointed braves fan
September 30th, 2011
5:01 pm
if fredi cant see that the braves do not have a problem in hitting and make some changes, wren should see that he has a problem with fredi and fire him.
Wahoo
September 30th, 2011
5:25 pm
PARRISH IS GONE!
bring back blauser
September 30th, 2011
7:08 pm
if fredi has any smarts at all he should bring in Chris Chambliss as his hitting coach.
bring back blauser
September 30th, 2011
7:10 pm
and while he is at it bring back Leo Mazzone as pitching coach
John A.
October 1st, 2011
12:36 pm
Fredi perhaps you now know who is in charge……It’s FRANK….HE’S YOUR BOSS. Now that you know that….ask him what he expects you to do. In my judgement he wants you to produce another F***ed up season with all of your blunders. FRANK IS A LOSER AND SO ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KnightInATL
October 2nd, 2011
10:20 pm
Let’s give Walt Hriniak a call.