4:48 pm September 29, 2011, by David O'Brien
September 29th, 20116:11 pm
Steve@5:54 comment-at least be accurate. Chipper won the batting title 3 years ago (2008) with a .364 average and batted well into the 300s the year before and after. He’s clearly not the player he once was but he’s got a lifetime .307 avg and most knowledgeable baseball people think he is a lock for first ballot HOF. He has been with the Braves his entire 17 year career and could probably have gotten more money over the years elsewhere. If you and others don’t think he hasn’t been a clutch player you are either are biased against him for personal reasons, haven’t followed the team since 1994 or aren’t a knowledgeable fan. I do not understand the anger directed at Chipper by some fans.
Well, now we know Fredi’s philosophy. For the sake of the Braves in 2012, let’s hope it works.
Otherwise, the decision will be out of is hands.
September 29th, 20116:13 pm
If most fans feel that way………………………………It was awful quiet when DLOWE left the game. I would have been standinag and booing.
PHILLIES fans would have let this team have it if they were in our shoes.
BRAVES FANS are to nice.
My WISH LIST that must go :
John Schuerholz, Frank WREN and entire coaching staff
Eat contracts of DLOWE, MCOUT, Trade SLIPPER JONES TO AMERICAN LEAGUE and eat half the salary, KAWACRUMMY.
JHEY more upset that he did not play the last 2 games instead of being upset.
None of these guys appear to be upset……………………..Well, when you make that kind of money I guess why should you.
September 29th, 20116:14 pm
If I have a 3 year contract and my first years sucks, I would feel bad, but I will still get my pay. If the owners would all stick together, they could have a one year contract and you would see more quality
coaching than what you are seeing now. I don’t blame Gonzalez, If I had a three year contract I would
bring all my buddies back also.
@ Bring Out The Surgeon’s Scalpel
Yo racist piece of crap. So called fans like you bring bad karma and are the reason we aren’t in the playoffs. Take that somewhere else.
I saw Sid slide
When we DA call out chipper jones call him by h.o.f chipper or 2nd best switch hbitter of all time chipper behind some bum named MICKEY MANTLE who all you morons would prob disrespect too
One can always find games where the manager made a wrong decision. So I don’t think we need to micro-analyze him. What we need to do is to figure out why the pictures are getting hurt and/or wearing out before the end of the season. Secondly we to get a handle on the wild fluctuation in the performance of the batters. It had to be a world record for inconsistency. If we could go back to the days of one year contract upon which the following year’s contract was performance based, I think we would eliminate the games when some seem to be :”phoning it in”. What’s the down side of losing if you have a long term contract. How many players turn it up a notch in the last year of their contract. It would be that way every year if we went back to one year contracts. I don’t have much sympathy for people makings an obscene amount of money to play a sport.
September 29th, 20116:16 pm
OK I misspelled the word “pitchers”. It made me laugh. That’s what you get for being dyslexic.
Plenty of HALL OF FAMERS did not end their career with the team they started with
If Hank Aaron can be traded then so can SLIPPER JONES.
SLIPPER JONES can not even hold the jock strap of Henry Aaron. I wish we could trade him so that he could DH……………………………..He would not waive his trade rights.
September 29th, 20116:17 pm
Fine Fredi, your coaching staff is back and the fans are NOT coming back. There will be plenty of breeze next summer with guys employing the Larry Parrish cave-man mentality of swing hard in case you might make contact.
September 29th, 20116:18 pm
I know how to put together a winning ballclub, so let me breakdown your roster:
1B Freeman – Solid player and plays good defense.
2B Uggla – Good power hitter. He struggled in teh first half but still gives you some pop.
SS ? – Gotta fill this hole. Gonzalez is not the future. Old, hurt and can’t hit.
3B Jones – Great player when healthy, but a weak leader. Prado the future?
RF Heyward – Make or break season in 2012. Needs to become a .290-30-90 guy.
CF Bourn – Love his game. Great defense, gets on base, steals, and a gamer.
LF ??? – Need another power hitter in this spot. Prado is OK, but your offense needs to upgrade and the only open positions are here and SS. I suspect Wren will make a deal and move Prado back to a utility role.
SP Hudson – A gamer, pitched his butt off last night.
SP Hanson – A question mark, but like Heyward, 2010 should be a make or break year. Needs to stay healthy.
SP Jurrjens – Get rid of him. Delgado is a younger version and looks tougher mentally.
SP Beachy – Another tough kid, gets strikeouts, needs to shake the “one-bad-inning” thing. Good #3-4 starter on a contender.
SP Minor – Decent future, but I’d deal him in a package for the power bat in LF.
SP Medlen – Love this kid also. Didn’t have to step in for you guys but did. He should compete for a starter’s role in 2010.
SP Teheran – Didn’t see much but he still has time and a lot of upside. See what he’s got in spring training and if he’s legit, he should be the 5th starter or reserve in case of injury.
63 year Braves fan
Is Fredi Gonzalez making all management decisions? He should be shaking in his boots about a job
for next year. If he is back to manage, ticket sales will plummet. Bring on Bobby Valentine who will
shake up the troops and who has forgotten more baseball than Fredi ever knew.
September 29th, 20116:19 pm
01 Hawk…. who batted .300 the last month of the season chipper is the best pure hitter on the team bright one
September 29th, 20116:20 pm
Whoops! I typed “in 2010″ in the comments on Medlen and Hanson. My mistake.
Nothing in this organization changes! Davey Johnson and Jack McKeon took Fredi to the cleaners!
2012 Standings in the NL East Phillies, Nationals, Marlins, Braves, Mets!
Nothing will change. NOTHING!!!!
To “I Saw Sid Slide”. I saw him slide too. I also watched him when he was playing a Liberty and my friend Bobby Richardson was coach. I remember one game against VaTech when no Liberty hitter got a hit except Bream. He hit four homers. Didn’t need that blazing speed that day.
September 29th, 20116:21 pm
I wasn’t on the Fire Fredi side until I heard this announcement. He’s essentially accepting epic failure as if it was a matter routine and loyalty.
well this just goes to show all Braves fans what kind of an idiotic moron we have as a manager.
September 29th, 20116:25 pm
It is what it is……….
September 29th, 20116:29 pm
Thanks for all the articles & post-game quotes(love those) all year long. For us TBS babies around the country that don’t get our TBS heroin anymore, the blog is the best way to get our fix these days. Crappy way to end the season and it’ll make the Iowa winter a bit colder, but I’ll be back in March hoping for another pennant and reading the blog!
September 29th, 20116:32 pm
Freddi is dumber than I thought….he just makes it easier for Wren to clean house after the repeat next season….good move Freddi… u douchbag!
September 29th, 20116:34 pm
Fire Fredi and let him take his coaches with him. They all suck.
September 29th, 20116:35 pm
What a joke the braves organization has become. First the braves have the worst G.M. in baseball, anybody that would give Lowe $15 million, Hudson, $12 million, and Larry Jones $14 or 15 million is a total idiot. When you tie up half of your budget on 3 wornout over the hill clowns, you get what you deserve. THis idiot G.M. only got the job because he kissed Shurholtz’s ass for 10 years. Then he hires an unemployed moron to be the manager, and the only reason he hired him was because the loser ass Cox told him to. The braves are going nowhere with this ownership and this idiot G.M. Every good organization starts with good management from the top, and unfortunately the braves have no management from the G.M. to the worst manager in baseball. How would this clown know what a good staff is? He was fired, and he wouldn’t know a good hitting coach or a good pitching coach if they bite him in the ass. It will only get worse next year, because the Phils will still dominate, but the Nationals, Marlins, and Mets will all pass the braves. As long as Wren, fat fredi, and liberty media are in charge, the braves will be a second tier team. Look at the starters next year, Lowe a miserable pitcher, Hudson a 38 yr old starter, Beachy, and what do you have after that? Nothing but question marks. Add that to a 40+ 3rd baseman that plays once a week, a shortstop who can’t hit his weight, a second baseman that want show up until August, a 1st baseman that is legit, and the worst outfield in baseball.OOPS, forgot to mention the worst defensive lardass catcher in baseball,who happens to be the braves mvp, and you have a team that is 4th best in the N.L. East. Thank you Wren, for this powerhouse team you built, and good luck with the 3 stooges next year. Lowe, Hudson, and Larry Jones
Braves Fans deserve better
Everyone needs to remember that the Braves had the 2nd or 3rd best record in MLB up until the end of August. Fredi actually did a decent job up until the end of August. The one area that the Braves were pathetic throughout the season was offense. How many blowout games did the Braves have this season?? Maybe 7. Every game they played in and won was close and that’s why the bullpen was worn out by the end of the year.
My point is Larry Parrish must be held accountable for the lack of offense throughout the season. He has to be fired.
As a season ticket holder, I’m not purchasing a renewal package until changes are made with the coaching staff and players that under performed.
North Georgia Braves Fan
September 29th, 20116:36 pm
Larry Parrish is useless. Please, Frank Wren, make Fredi give him his walking papers!!
Umpires are never wrong
Chipper and the rest need to quit umpiring and swing the damn bat,to many called third strikes!
With this announcement, I feel as hopeless about the Braves as I did in the late 80s. I am beginning to think that everyone involved with this team for the last 20 years (JS, Cox, Wren, Fredi, etc.) were just frauds and I as a fan was duped. No more Braves until they get serious about winning.
oh great , looks like we are in for the same crap as the last three years, everyone fading at the end and no hitting. yippie!!!!!
Fire Larry Parrish
September 29th, 20116:37 pm
GOD. DAMN. IT.
I HATE LIFE.
63 Year Braves Fan, I agree about Bobby Valentine. That is the kind of baseball man we need. Of course, Ronald McDonald might be an upgrade here.
September 29th, 20116:38 pm
Wren’s Kawakami blunder won’t cost us any money next year. Lowe’s too rapid descent into mediocrity will cost us $15M (or less, if we can get some dumber GM somewhere to agree to pay a couple or three million of the bill.) But having Hudson, Hansen, Jurrjens, Beachy, Medlen, Teheran, Minor, Delgado, Vizcaino, Varvaro — and probably a couple of sleepers from AA or even A ball and maybe one or two who will come in winter trades — to find five great starters… well, that’s going to be fun next March. It may be difficult for anyone, be he Roger McDowell or Tom Glavine or Greg Maddux or even Dave Duncan — to get some of them to change their thinking subtly — to ‘pitch to contact but keep ‘em in the park, and go seven good innings every start.’ One way to do that, to teach them you’re serious, might be to put heavier emphasis on long men — who some of these guys and Christian Martinez will probably be. If starters are told and realize that 50 pitches in 4 innings gets them pulled, regardless of the score… they might get the idea. Stronger middle men who are stretched to go four or five innings even — will take some of the pressure off the back end guys and knowing they’re there will inspire starters to pitch the way you need them to pitch.
But the Braves problem is with hitters who can’t. A lot is being said about Jason Heyward — but the games we lost in April, May and June, when Dan Uggla was getting comfortable would have made a lot of difference to this team. Leaving him in the lineup, indeed even on the big league roster during those months was the responsibility of Frank Wren and Fredi Gonzalez. When he finally came around and started hitting he was doing the job he’s paid well to do, but he seriously hurt this team in the early months — worse than Jason Heyward did because he was expected to do more. Larry Parrish didn’t help either of these hitters. Fredi Gonzalez did nothing to help their attitudes, to motivate them to perform at a big league level. No team can afford to carry two key hitters the way we did for so long this season. If either or both of them, or any other key bat, McCann or Freeman or Prado, Bourne, Jones even — can’t beat Mendoza by the middle of May, they need to sit, or to go to Gwinnett until they find their swing consistently.
Bottom line is that the players, the manager and his coaches, the general manager — all need to understand their positions in the organization depend on their own performance and contribution to the team’s ultimate success. They all need to know they have to help win games, all year long!
We be some Cap-Tippin’ mul’fos, that fo sure!
September 29th, 20116:39 pm
Hey folks….Fredi and his coaches are comfy where they are, and losing does not bother them. I guess you would swap all that for a winning team. How can you call yourselves Braves fans and, at the same time, diss our experienced and capable leaders? Remember that this is Atlanta and losing in sports is our norm..
September 29th, 20116:41 pm
at least I know now not to waste my time following this team next year. after 42 years of being a Braves fan, there is no way I’m going throught this crap again. It is obvious that this team does not care about winning, so therefore I no longer care about this team.
Michael, The Abbreviation
im over this bullsHHT this team is a freakin joke
September 29th, 20116:42 pm
“Hey….ya gotta tip your hat”……STFU Freddi and GTFO…….Go play in traffic u idiot!
I would love to see Terry Collins managing the Braves. The way he had that team pumped up to come in and destroy the Braves was incredible managing.
Tired of all you whiners. We lost our two best starting pitchers for the last 6 + weeks. Brian McCann stopped hitting after straining his oblique. We came inches away from gamewinning hits (chippers drive to the gap last night with Bourn on 1st)…that would have all of you talking about how great a job Freddi did. There is such a fine line in winning baseball games…and there is an element of luck and fate..that Freddi, Frank Wren, or even Ted Turner could control.
Freddi will win a World Series with the Braves within 5 years. You heard it hear first.
Lots of problems in September. McCann, Prado, Heyward, Hinski, Kimbrel, and Venters all disappeared. Lowe, Proctor, Linebrink, and Conrad never really showed up for the whole summer. A. Gonzolaz showed up for September only, then went AWOL at the very end when he was needed most. Losing J.J. and Hanson for the second half was crucial, going from 23 victories between them in the first half to 2 in the second half was horrific,and D. Lowe never picked them up. Give credit to Tim Hudson and the young guns for taking the Braves as far as they got. I was disgusted with the great Chipper Jones constant swinging at the first pitch. It was like he had a curfew he had to make every night and was rushing his at bats so he could get home. He failed to be a team leader, but I never have called him one either. Fredi seems like a nice enough guy, but I’m not sure he is a good manager nor if he will ever be since he seems to lack fire in his belly and doesn’t seem to inspire his players, two desirable qualities for a MLB manager. If Wren doesn’t make any more stupid deals such as Lowe & Kawakami and they can get Chipper off the books things may look up for the Braves since they have the young guns and Freeman, Uggla, and Pastornicky. The jury’s still out on Heyward & Prado, Bourn’s probably gone after 1 more year, and McCann is probably at the beginning of a steady year to year decline. It started last year and continued all this year. I would look to trade him for some great prospects while his worth is still high, trade J.J. for prospects this winter because they will never be able to sign him after next year, then trade Hanson the next winter before his arm blows up for additional prospects. This way the Braves would be beating the financial and injury curve and loading up with prospects for the future.
September 29th, 20116:43 pm
Hey Joe Madden….if you’ll manage the Braves next year….I promise that F Gonzo wont get in your way. We would just give him the bat boy spot.
No thinking about the Braves again until next spring. Enjoy your well-earned vacation from baseball, Braves fans.
September 29th, 20116:45 pm
Well let me buy my season tickets now, if that’s the case.
Braves have a lot of holes:ss, 3rd, corner outfielders and a rapidly aging catcher and a manager who imparts absolutely NO confidence in the FANS. Wrenn has made many bad decisions,when a good GM was necessary. Aren’t most of these coaches inbreds and hand me downs anyway,time to clean out the kennel!!
September 29th, 20116:51 pm
ATTENTION; JOHN S: AND OUR ESTEEMED OWNERS: Please take note of your managers and GM’s decision. I would hope that you will take the appropriate action re. their decisions of today less than 24 hrs after your teams demise. Since you operate the Braves like a business I would expect an immediate business action on your part, appropriate to the situation as it has developed. Our manager and GM made a hasty decision which I would think that you consider rather frash and ill-advised. So lets see some action on your parts. I would think that inaction on your part would severly hurt your bottom line and any chance you have have selling the “team”. (Pleae excuse SP)
Looking Forward to Freddy
September 29th, 20116:52 pm
I agree with many of the commenters and fans here. I have been a die hard Braves fan my entire life. I go to games every year. If this is the organization’s approach to the biggest choke in NL wild card history, caused mainly by the ineptitude of the managing and coaching staff (with the exception of McDowell), then I will not go to any games until the approach changes, and the organization decides to become competitive. I will not buy a ticket until the organization proves that they can address failures, rectify them, and adapt. I am disgusted. I will watch my Bravos when management addresses and hold itself accountable to what happened this season. I will miss going to the Ted, but I cannot support something as inept as this.
Red Clay Hound
September 29th, 20116:56 pm
As long as Gonzalez manages this team we should change our name to the Atlanta Cap-tippers.
September 29th, 20116:57 pm
greg norton for hitting coach? i’m sure he doesn’t have much going on.
September 29th, 20117:01 pm
HAHAHA.. Good one Freddi! Time for you to say “April Fools” or “Sike” This article cannot be serious….is it?
Thanks for the heads up Fredi..I’m done with this team until I see some changes. No more ticket or teamwear purchases for me. I’m now a Rays fan.
September 29th, 20117:02 pm
Anybody up for becoming a Phillies fan for the next month? I honestly would root for the braves if they were in and Phils were out. I don’t know what it is I just think that are typically a likable team unlike those Mets who I just can’t stand
I appreciate your kind words, but I have to get my guys focused for this pennant chance! Rays World Order, my man! I will say this: Terry Pendleton deserves an apology from a lot of your fans. Last year’s team had guys like Rick Ankiel, Troy Glaus and Nate McLouth getting regular at-bats and he had them tops in the NL in OBP. What they didn’t have last year was legit power hitters. You guys sacrificed one for the other and the offense took a nose-dive this year. But as I said, you’ll be fine once you fill the holes in LF and SS.
rays, Rays, RAYS!!!
September 29th, 20117:03 pm
If the Braves don’t even move Larry Parrish then they have managed to do something that no one has managed to do to me as a 50 year Braves fan. And that is to run me off!
So tell me Fredi? You managed to have a historic meltdown and you refuse to consider changes? I hope the fans revolt on this team and not consider supporting such a weak effort!
To heck with you and this weak effort of management!
September 29th, 20117:04 pm
You all stink!
September 29th, 20117:05 pm
Anybody think that this Rays World Order thing is corny or is just me. I will also be rooting for the Rays. They are a very good team and with the exception of Upton I like most of the team as well. Their fans stink however. In 2008 I flew done for games 1 & 2 and bought tickets at face value and the stadium had plenty of open seats for the WORLD SERIES. Can you imagine that
September 29th, 20117:06 pm
I grew up a Yankee fan and moved to Altanta in late ‘89. How could you not become a Braves fan during the ‘91 season? And I’ve been a Braves fan for 21 years now. But this is it. I can’t take the disappointment anymore from a team that underachieves, and where no one is held accountable when things go wrong..
It’s simply OK to come close. The status quo is acceptable.
So I’m not going to be sucked in anymore. I won’t be going to any games. I’ll watch them from afar, check the standings ever few weeks. And follow a team that doesn’t accept second best.
ABSOLUTELY FREAKIN’ RIDICULOUS!!!
LARRY PARRISH HAS TO BE FIRED!!!
I have never seen such an incompetent display of offensive (lack of) execution in my entire life. This team could do nothing but swing as hard as possible and hope the bat hits something. The complete inability to hit situationally is what cost this team a trip to the post-season, not the pitching. Horrible BA, OBP BA w/ RISP. When a team can’t execute as an offense for 3/4 of a season and 2/3 of the line-up has substandard years, then somebody
September 29th, 20117:07 pm
…HAS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!
September 29th, 20117:08 pm
If Fredi can’t make the tough decisions and has already asked everyone back, including Parrish, then maybe HE should be asked to leave!
September 29th, 20117:10 pm
Jurjjens seems to be the guy not being talked. Two years in row he has gone on the DL and not helped in the postseason. I don’t expect anything different next year. He’s the one I would like to unload and maybe get a few dollars for good left fielder with pop. Agree with much that has been said on this site, but some of you say it better than others. This was ultimately the most embarrassing team the Braves have had since 1990 and I didn’t think anything would make me feel worse than the 1996 WS. Actually, it doesn’t compare because that team (and the 1993 team that blew it to Phillies) were fun to watch.
September 29th, 20117:11 pm
Fire Fredi then he won’t have to worry about firing Parrish!
September 29th, 20117:17 pm
Less than one day after they finish this facade, Fredi has a complete handle on the situation??? He obviously is also completely satisfied with his performance in managing which is a subject that certainly needs considerable evaluation. Does this man have any sense of reality? He’s not much of a man or manager if he does not have the capacity to think at least a little longer. This season turns out to be a disaster and in less than 24 hours, this idiot knows for a fact that not one member of his coaching staff might be partially at fault. If his decision making during the season was given as much thought, it is no wonder the Braves and their fans lost out!!!! This man should go and soon!!!
September 29th, 20117:18 pm
Larry Parrish Wikipedia quote:
“In his first year as hitting coach, he took a team who led the league in OBP in 2010 to 5th worst in baseball.”
September 29th, 20117:20 pm
Guys, don’t worry about the Phillies. They’re one and done. The Cardinals are the only team in the NL that had a winning record vs them. Phillies did everything they could to eliminate the Braves and it WILL come back to haunt them. Cheer up, Atlanta… because Pujols, Holliday and Berkman are about to put on a show in that series!
September 29th, 20117:23 pm
Fredi was hired because he is just like Bobby Cox. He proved this point this year in many moves, including burning Venters & Kimbrel out by end of August. Braves need to adopt Nolan Ryan approach that starters go 8 or more. If you only can go 5 innings, you are a middle reliever at best. Young guys & old hands need to pitch deep into games to save the pen.
September 29th, 20117:25 pm
I can’t believe that no one is going to be held accountable for the worst choke in Braves history.I am from AZ but the Braves were my team up until now.At least the Dbacks care about their fans unlike the Braves.FG and LP should be fired!
September 29th, 20117:27 pm
One of the SI writes had a pretty good line: “In Atlanta this will be forgotten in the time it takes to say what time is kickoff?”
If we had an owner committed to winning…this would not be true.
TD has no clue!
September 29th, 20117:28 pm
This is what I hate about managers and coaches. They are too loyal to their assistants. This is why the Falcons won’t win anything. Smith wont fire the off and def coordinators.
September 29th, 20117:29 pm
Nationals also had a winning record against the Phillies. They finished 10-8.
I really hope the Atlanta radio stations look at this and talk about it. It’s amazing at the number of people that do not like this. That should tell Braves management something.
September 29th, 20117:30 pm
If Braves management after having to refund all the playoff ticket money, don’ see a need for major changes I am sorry for them!
Why is this even Fredi’s choice? Shouldn’t Wren, JS, or Terry McJerk (the real idiot) either weigh in on this issue? Speaking of those guys…why are there jobs secure?
September 29th, 20117:32 pm
Fredi will be very sorry for his comments. end of story. you may have to wait 190 days…but there will be big changes.
I say seeya Fredi, Roger and Parrish.
September 29th, 20117:36 pm
Fredi needs to get some media coaching. When the mob is screaming for blood is not a good time to make a case for the status quo. Just a a big, I’m sorry and refuse to talk about the future was all that was needed. Two days ago he was quoting Mark Richt with that “it is what it is” nonsense.
September 29th, 20117:39 pm
Joe Maddon… Did you not watch any of the games against the Cards 10 days ago? It was right after we clinched and we played with mostly a minor league line up. I do agree though the cards are good team and a worthy opponent unlike these Braves
September 29th, 20117:40 pm
Liberty Media’s stock was down 2.36% today. Word on the Street is that Fredi is going to have to explain why he pitched to Pence to the Board on Friday via teleconference.
My advice: SELL, SELL, SELL this stock!!!!!!!!!
September 29th, 20117:41 pm
It’s pretty cut and dry…. Parrish needs to go.
September 29th, 20117:46 pm
This team has been too painful to watch. Cancelled my MLBTV subscription a while ago. It’s agonizing to watch a team that has great pitching and such a hapless offense. And, a philosophy that seems to maximize our offensive weaknesses by coaching everyone to swing for the fences every time. Pitchers give up a couple runs, and everyone knows, odds are we won’t score enough. Demoralizing.
I like what someone else said earlier. I’ll tune in again after a change in leadership and philosophy.
Watching this team is hazardous to my health!
September 29th, 20117:48 pm
Good news and Bad news…Bad news is,we only got manure for dinner.Whats the Good news?…..THERE’S TONS OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Fredi, is being blame because as manager he had the last word, even if Chipper, wasn’t very helpful.
Let’s see McCann couldn’t throw anyone out, or hit when needed, Fredi overplay him.
Chipper, as some say playing hurt is as good as some healthy player, is pure 100% bull.
Heyward, should be in the minor’s, not ready for the big time.
Alex G. acted like he wanted to be somewhere else.
The worse deal was getting Wilson.
Go through the whole team and spot weak areas as a baseball fan, and the Brave coaching
staff miss it, they all should be replace.
Fredi, in my view let the team manage itself, he wasn’t as aggressive as should have being, and the GM, did a bad job not getting a power hitter.
The era of the Braves is over and they will be a second rate team, from here on end.
Dave in Green Bay
September 29th, 20117:55 pm
Braves need to clean house top to bottom but need an individual owner with money to spend and passion for the team: (See Milwaukee Brewers)
Hey, you make it to the majors you should know how to hit, Ain’y my fault.
September 29th, 20117:56 pm
Here’s a not-so-new idea. Freddie loves his lack of production staff, how about all of them get pink slips! We made MLB history for chocking and jobs are safe! What message is being sent to us faithful fans, who fill the seats? Maybe when our stands look like Tampa, then the front office will get the picture. We need change! Somebody has got to pay for this season!
September 29th, 20117:58 pm
DOB should apologize to the fans also for not having the guts to ask FG who he thought was responsible for the meltdown.
September 29th, 20117:59 pm
fredi has got to go along with frank wren, this season so many games lost by bad decisions by the manager. so many bad decisions by the gm over the last 3 years, kk, diaz, multiyear contract for a 3rd baseman that cant stay healthly , a right fielder that needs to be in the minors until he learns to hit a curve ball , a left fielder that cant hit more than 13 home runs in over 500 at bats (cant steal bases either), a catcher that cant quit conplaining to the umpires about balls and strikes instead of just playing the game. a manager that has lost the confidence of the city (not just for 1 bad month but for a season of bad baseball decisions). bad trades, bad draft picks , other than the minor league pitchers a weak farm system. The blueprint for winning was in place for 14 years (how come this gm cant follow what used to work (speed, power hitters and defense), we are weak in left and right field shortstop and for a 3rd of the season 3rd base (when chipper usually makes his yearly disabled visit.) if the gm and manager cant see this maybe liberty media needs to. the only way frank wren should keep his job is to acquire a 200 plus inning starter with an era under 4.00, a 25 to 30 home run hitter for the outfield and a shortstop that can field and hit and steal bases , maybe the untouchable brave players should be considered in trade talks, maybe kemp would be available for a mccann, maybe liberty media would spend the money for great players instead of the same song and dance we get from the gm after 1 move is made (we will look at this again in the spring). is money really that tight for the braves or do they not want to spend the money because liberty media doesnt trust the decisions of the gm spending the money. …seems like its time for a change from top to bottom in the management ranks
September 29th, 20118:03 pm
Don’t expect anything to improve as long as Liberty Media owns the Braves, They bought Braves for a tax write off and really don’t care if they lose or win, They will never put the kind of money into the Braves organization to compete with the Phils. They have owned the Braves for what four years now and you see the results. Get use to it.
September 29th, 20118:05 pm
It’s nice to know that things will be the same next year, Fredi. Bet the fans are looking forward to the same old crap. We have not heard from the top brass yet. Maybe they’ll have different ideas about who goes and who stays.
September 29th, 20118:10 pm
In 2012 I think it’s safe to say that they can be replaced by a computer.
September 29th, 20118:15 pm
Do you juveniles not notice that DOB doesn’t give you the time of day on this blog? Get a clue.
September 29th, 20118:17 pm
Now we know, from his own mouth, that Fredi is not upset about losing games or making the playoffs and that keeping his buddies employed as his coaches is what is important to him.
I, like most of you, thought that getting him to manage the Braves was an excellent move so we can’t lay the blame on Wren for hiring him. We might have all been wrong.
September 29th, 20118:19 pm
DOB should apologize to the fans also for not having the guts to ask FG who he thought was responsible for the meltdown
September 29th, 20118:21 pm
Thanks for all the articles & post-game quotes(love those) all year long. For us TBS babies around the country that don’t get our TBS heroin anymore, the blog is the best way to get our fix these days. – iowabrave
You’re more than welcome. And stay off the white horse. (smile)
September 29th, 20118:27 pm
I’m Fredi Gonzalez, and I support this message…
September 29th, 20118:29 pm
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hey tampa bay is a southern team….might be better off rooting for them anyway
September 29th, 20118:33 pm
Hey folks, I made out the lineup cards, even walked to home plate and handed it to the ump. What more do you expect from me? The team is made up of professional players so they should know how to do their job. You folks are never satisfied.
Fire the whole coaching staff! Dismal performance.They proved that they can’t motivate the players.
September 29th, 20118:35 pm
Maybe the Braves could save some dough by not having a hitting coach….or just let Chipper be a player/coach in his final year…bound to do a better job than Parish.
That’s it, I’m through with this team. No desire to win, and no guts to fire someone who sucks. Good riddance losers.
September 29th, 20118:41 pm
This is why I will not be back. It’s like he just doesn’t care. Everyone is back when you make the playoffs and compete. Hanson and JJ were not the cause of this meltdown. Uninspired play, poor management, hitting instruction, and overall lack of offense. Anyone can see the problem. On base percentage blows as well. “Everyone is back.” What a frickin joke. I wish everyone could fail at their jobs and still be back. Let’s just blame this on the economy and Obama. That is what Fredi should have done.
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