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08andAgainIn11
September 29th, 2011
6:41 am
Hey Joe Madden – You had better hope that – in the UNLIKELY event that you make it to the WS – really, really unlikely – someone has beaten the Phillies! Because if the Phillies and Rays meet in the WS this year, we will put an even Worse BEATDOWN on you in ‘11 than we did in 08′. And we dispatched you in FIVE GAMES in ‘08, you friggin Knucklehead Blowhard! Are you for real?!
Darryl Blackberry
September 29th, 2011
6:42 am
Thanks for hanging with us all season long, DOB. As bad as this loss hurt me, there is some comfort in reading these quotes. This was a good game, but the Braves came up short.
So…who do we root for in the postseason? (But let’s be clear: it ain’t gonna be the Cards or Phils…)
08andAgainIn11
September 29th, 2011
6:45 am
Damned P Yankee – Notice I left the Philly out of your name. You, my friend, are an idiot. Period. Are you referring to Charlie Manuel, the winningest manager in Phillies history? Just checkin’. Fredi over Charlie, huh? That’s rich, bro’.
Dammed Philly Yankee
September 29th, 2011
6:47 am
Yo Philly Fan……
Your a classic case of why too many Philly fans are and always will be bush league….
You gloat and rub it in when we win and whine when we lose.
Savannah Fan
September 29th, 2011
6:47 am
Just want to tip my hat to the boyz-The Philles
08andAgainIn11
September 29th, 2011
6:52 am
Damned – It’s “you’re”, as in “you are”. So you’ve (you have) shown your true colors. And to your point, there are definitely arrogant Phils fans in here. They haven’t learned the meaning of humility as yet.
Lee M
September 29th, 2011
6:53 am
Here is what SI on CNN is saying:
“Fredi Gonzalez’s errors in player usage — benching Jason Heyward, using Martin Prado in the second spot, failing to use a double-switch to get at least a second inning from the highly effective Cristhian Martinez — all contributed to the loss. Gonzalez struggled all season long to get his best players on the field, while riding the three relievers he trusted into the ground. For the second straight season, the Braves had a championship-caliber pitching staff and an offense not worthy of it. For the second straight season, the Braves had no path to victory when the pitchers let them down.” That guy got it right, on both ends. The Manager didn’t “Manage” when he needed to and the “offense” was “offensive” in all the wrong ways. Here is a bit of trivia though that is interesting: Linebrink takes the loss for the Braves and Proctor gives up the HR to Longoria for the Ray’s to win and take out the “Sox’s”. CARMA baby, CARMA….See you next year.
bravesfanforever
September 29th, 2011
6:55 am
Pitching was great in 2010, hitting not so much. Wow, just look at all the painful stats. It’s amazing how few people had even average years. The only bright spot was Freddie Freeman and at least Chipper Jones hit about as expected as an old fading star. He apparently is still effective so I would keep him.
Look at all the player who had off years: Uggla, Heyward (we don’t have much to compare to but come on!), McCann, Prado, Gonzalez, and even Michael Bourn after the trade. He only hit .278 with a .321 OBP. That’s not that good.
I say we need to replace Prado and Gonzalez immediately. It appears that Prado is not going to be the player we thought he was since his potential seems to be about 13-15 homeruns. That’s not great production. Gonzalez has NEVER hit and this team needs hitting!
Fire Larry Parrish
September 29th, 2011
6:59 am
36 home runs for Uggla is an off yeah? Yeah, no.
STRETCH
September 29th, 2011
7:06 am
Cant blame Uggla, he turned it around and really carried this team, him and Freeman and Chipper. As for everyone else, its really hard to see some of them back next season.
And if i know Wren, he’s gonna be dealing this winter. People say what they want to say about him, but he makes deals, he makes deals with the money he’s alloted.
They will be back..MINUS D LOWE!
Dammed Philly Yankee
September 29th, 2011
7:08 am
08andagainin11 (whatever)
A typical Cholly move last night….. when the bases were loaded with 2 outs instead of sending
his best cluch hitter with men on base, Valdez, up to hit for the Dominican Hot Dog he lets the one
something and change wonder hit his usual pop up to kill the inning! Then he puts Wilson in as a defensive replacement for JRolle….. why not just send him in to pinch hit for Martinez first? Duh…….
Last…..If Gene Mauch had the talent Cholly has it would probably take more years than he has to
catch Mauch!
PS – No problem leaving the Philly out because I live in Jersey under the boardwalk down by the shore…. PS2 – I’m outta here so the Braves fans can have this blog back….. have a nice day and if
you happen to see the mayor with no nuts, tell him I said he needs to grow some……
Piedmont Blues
September 29th, 2011
7:09 am
Thanks for another great season, DOB. Appreciate all you and CR do.
tim
September 29th, 2011
7:15 am
thank you guys for an enjoyable season. yest it was a roller coaster ride, but given the injuries we had down the stretch to the pitching staff we still had a nice season. it will be interesting this off season to see what subtractions and additions the front office makes. pitchers and catchers report in approx 140 days try to put this behind you gentlemen, thank you for an entertaining season and we’ll see you at dark star in Feb. Go Braves
Fire Larry Parrish
September 29th, 2011
7:20 am
I like how McCann’s dumbass FINALLY had a moment of clarity after the game where he said, “Oh, whoops, maybe I did come back too early.”
Moron.
Good grief Charlie Brown
September 29th, 2011
7:22 am
….and we’re done. any team that hits .178 with RISP the last month of the season doesn’t need to go to the playoffs.
Oh well, hoping for a RAYS and BREWERS World Series. that would be a good matchup.
Old Dawg Fan
September 29th, 2011
7:22 am
It is finally over!!! Issues and problems on so many levels. Epic drop from 8 1/2 up!!!! Embarassing to the state of Georgia!!
mjn99
September 29th, 2011
7:29 am
you know, maybe you guys should of showed a little more disappointment earlier when all this was happening. All I ever heard from them was that it was no big deal, we’re still up, tomorrow’s another day, etc. well there is no more tomorrow and you guys blew it. They showed no heart the last month and I really believe that the bullpen actually pitched better when they were used everyday. They started losing it when they were trying to rest them. I think they needed to pitch everyday.
I’ll I heared all year when I was complaining about losing games in April was that it was still early. That same mentality was in place even through ZSept. and that’s what killed this team. You have to play every game to win because sure enough that one game you lost in May would have put you in the playoffs in Sept if you had just won it. I am disgusted with the attitude this team had over the last month. I saw nothing showing any extra effort to win. It was like they just didn’t care. Maybe that was not true but that was the perception they gave everyone and sometimes that is worse.
Hello, its me
September 29th, 2011
7:31 am
Knock knock
Hello, its me
September 29th, 2011
7:33 am
LMAO…the BRAVES SUCK!! My sides are aching from so much laughter. In life three things are for sure…Death, taxes and the Braves screwing up…LMAO!!!
LOSERS!!
Charlie
September 29th, 2011
7:35 am
Just like their September, the comments from this team show they have no bats or balls. They CHOKED…spit it out, to epic proportions. They are a weak-willed group of losers. Winners find a way to win. Losers choke. That’s September for the Braves. Mac sucked for more than September. Heyward bagged an entitre season. Prado gave aways so mant at bats second half, he could have just as well stayed home with his mama. Linebrink bagged a buch of games…fitting he took this final loss. Alex hit about one month’s worth; Uggla hit for 2 and half. Kimbrel spit it out in the biggest game. He choked big time. Too big a stage, I guess.
Fredi isn’t a leader. He doesn’t inspire. He’s a pollyanna, and bring nothings to this team. He’s one of the worst game time managers ever. Under his leadership, his team had one of the biggest collapses in the history of MLB. That speaks volumes about the job Fredi did. Parrish was a joke from day one. That, and the Braves inability to hit a baseball was quite consistent.
Mr. Three Hole commented about “…things being out of our control…” The ultimate excuse, as if fate had anything to do with the group of losers. Wow. Like the rest of this team, Chipper Jones surely didn’t step up when it counted.
This was a season of failure. A total choke job, in the end. I wish there could be big changes to this team, starting with Fredi and Parrish being fired, as a start. It won’t happen. We saw what Heyward and Martin are made of, and that McCann just rolled over for the last 1/4 of the season (”Are you panicking? Don’t be panicking on us…” Great quote…that and a “rough patch”, that lasted the final 38 games. Great quote Mc-O-fer.)
It’s finally over. The Braves played to their potential. At least they can look back at what they accomplished this year…ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHOKE JOBS IN MLB HISTORY.
alex
September 29th, 2011
7:38 am
Don’t think freddie will last long, little respect from anyone .Can’t compete with our lineup,major issues. Last jj and hanson, really hurt ofr saving themselves for more money next year
Boston Braves
September 29th, 2011
7:40 am
Braves gear is now 50% off at the Clubhouse store @ CNN
Wrens Nephew
September 29th, 2011
7:42 am
?First thing I have to say id Fredi grow a back bone! Your team just blew the largest wild card lead in history and you say you are proud of them. COME ON DUDE ARE YOU SERIOUS! And I know Kimbrel blew the save, but you have all those talented arms in the bullpen and you put the most important game in the hands of Scott Linestink. This is pitiful managing in my opinion.
bill
September 29th, 2011
7:44 am
in the 70’s I sat through the Taco Perez era with 400 people in the stands cheering on a team with no pitching or hitting. I wore my Braves stuff proudly. In the 80’s Murphy took us to the playoffs one year and I was proud to be a Braves Fan. The 90’s we were the best team in baseball even though we were underachivers and gave away two world series I was proud through it all. This morning I am embarrassed to be a Braves fan. Fredi and the players owed the fans a better effort and a better result. We choked plain and simple. The Phillies were playing at 80% and still we gave the game away. Its 140 days to pitchers and catchers and I fear we will not be better next year. At best we will be as good as this year. We have one durable frontline pitcher, Hudson. Do you really think the bullpen will be as good next year as this record setting year with eras of 1.00. Last night both Venters and Kimbrel were not tired they were overwhelmed and walked and hit batters on the way to a loss. They will never recover from this. We have no right fielder and we have no bat in left. Freddie Freeman can not hit an inside pitch anymore than Heyward can. Is Heyward playing fall or winter ball where he can get some coaching to repair that swing? One can only hope. Uggla might match this year next year but I doubt he will have more homers or drive in more runs. Gonzalez is 3 years past his prime and looks distracted. Chipper will limp through another 15 mill season but Bone on bone knee damage does not get better and there is no treatment for it. McCann will be ok with some rest. MCOUT is gone the Zero pilot is gone. DLowe cannot pitch relief . He is the worst in the early innings and needs to warm up with 2 or three runs in the first inning he pitches. Fredi is a worse game manager than Bobby which is hard to believe. He is not strong or inspirational and is lost to basic baseball strategy. Case in point. We can not score so one run is critical. Instead of trying to stop the lead runner and not worrying about the second run we hold the runner on first and take the gold glove first baseman out of the defense and a looper hit where he should have been drives in the winning run. Sure it was a broken bat job but a Joe Torre team wins that game last night. Frank Wrenn looked shell shocked and I don’t blame him. Now we are stuck with Fredi and the future is not that bright. Will Bourn resign with us in 2013? Not likely to pay him for his skills. Thank you Mr. Constanza . I hope you catch on with another team that will play you because I know the Braves have no intention of playing you in the big leagues ever again it makes too much sense. I am going to take another valium and try to not put so much emphasis on these losers. See you next year.
Fan's view
September 29th, 2011
7:45 am
I don’t see anything on the missed call at third this morning (replay booth anyone)and the umpirer clapping after Chipper strike out right after that. There was a home run that should have been a 3 runs, not 2. It seam to me MLB wanted the Pujols’ show in the playoffs, not the falling Braves.
cb795
September 29th, 2011
7:46 am
Wow it finally happened, Freddi didn’t say we have more games to get this turned around. Then the genius use Linestink with the season on the line. Yep, that move just made him manager for ever now.
Jupiter
September 29th, 2011
7:48 am
WTH?!?!?! Frank, you must get rid of Chipper.. end of story. If he demands to stay I would leave him in a DH role. Freddi, if another player takes a belt high fastball, first pitch, I think I might just cry. When your backs are against the wall you need to fight back. When the pitcher has awesome off-speed stuff you do not have the luxury of waiting for him to hang a breaking ball. GO GET IT!!! I am glad this season is over.
Hello, its me
September 29th, 2011
7:48 am
Heard around the Jones household years ago.
“CHIIIIPPEEEEEE, come and take a bath with Daddy…”
Chipper Jones, Number one LOSER!!
bill
September 29th, 2011
7:51 am
oh yeah thanks to Carol and DOB for the great coverage and blog for the Braves. I would like to know what you really think but I understand about job security. As bad as things went at least you two are not being traded to the yankees. You were the real season highlight.
Cecil34
September 29th, 2011
7:53 am
Keep reading those “quotes” boys, for the daily excuses…..
Jerry Blooger
September 29th, 2011
7:56 am
Fredi must go
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
8:05 am
08andAgainIn11,
You choke artists couldn’t even win with Roy freakin’ Halladay leading your staff last year and that ridiculous payroll. The Giants had a little league lineup and embarrassed you in your own yard. Fact of the matter is, my Rays don’t have half the resources as your club yet we’re on the same level… isn’t that great? And once your team chokes again with all those big names, this time to Prince Albert, Holliday and Big Puma, there won’t be any excuses. Muahahahaha!
RAYS WORLD ORDER!!!!!!!
Biggs
September 29th, 2011
8:11 am
I think some of you whiners miss the big picture. A lot of teams would love to have the opportunity to have game 162 decide their fate 2 years in a row.
Even though they collapsed and didnt get the job done, they at least made it to game 162 with an opportunity to decide their fate.
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
8:14 am
Back to the regularly scheduled program,
Braves fans, shake it off. You know your team has holes, your team lost key pitchers, and you’re playing with a bunch of rookies. Trust me, YOUR TIME WILL COME SOON… (with a different manager, though.). The Phillies are toast and the Brewers are done once Prince walks. Get another power bat in the outfield, sort out your rotation and you’re a 95 win team.
But in the meantime, put your support behind all that is GOOD in sports. The underdog Rays are trying to do the impossible. Heck, if you want to pull for an NL team, back up my guy Kirk Gibson, also. But screw the rest of these teams! Fight for the small market squad that won’t quit and good things will come your way in the coming years!
Dan Johnson… BOSS.
BWKBravesFan
September 29th, 2011
8:17 am
#1 Get Rid Of Derrick Lowe. He Should Have Been Gone Right After The All-Star Break. Evertime He Pitched This Season, I Had To Watch Something Else.
#2 I Love Chipper Jones, But It Is Time For Him To Retire. I Hope He Doesnt End Up “The Brett Favre Of Baseball”. Bring Chipper Back A The Hitting Coach, Because LORD Knows Alot Of Guys Need To Learn To Hit A Ball. For Example, When You Get Ready To Swing, And Your Body Bends 90 Degrees, 10/10 Times That Would Be Called A “BALL”.
#3 Fredi Gonzales, You Are Not Bobby Cox, So Dont Coach Like Bobby Cox. If Your Starting Pitcher Gives Up 3 Or More Runs In the First Inning, PULL HIS BUTT OUT OF THE GAME!!!!!
ccrider
September 29th, 2011
8:17 am
the injuries were devastating, extra innings led to the equivalant of an additional 6 high stress games and sometimes they just didn’t get the breaks. BUT THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THE LACKADASICAL AND UNINSPIRED EFFORT!!! it was as if some, not all, but some, of the braves felt that a 95% effort most of the time was enough. gonzales, shoot, need i say more? the most recent example… when mccann hit that bloop that hit the left field chalk he turned a double into a single by not running hard out of the box. these guys have been around long enough to know that 110% effort on every play is what it takes to be a winner. you saw the lack of passion when the frediot was with the marlins and now you see it here. the braves’ talent is superior to the snakes’ but look at what gibby did there (without stephen drew). as far as next year, the phils have another year left, the nats are on the rise, ozzy will make a difference in fla, and the mets will get better. fredo, mcdowell (he really promotes self-discipline, doesn’t he?) and parrish MUST GO!!!
old head bravo fan
September 29th, 2011
8:22 am
Turn out the lights the parties over…Hey Chipper turn out the lights on your way out. Gee what a collapse.This will hurt for many years.
philly fan 4 ever
September 29th, 2011
8:23 am
SORRY
Henry Aaron's Ghost
September 29th, 2011
8:24 am
Tyler, you are PROUD of these guys??? Does not take much to impress you does it? A HISTORY making event in major league baseball. On the Red Sox blowing a 9 game lead over shadows the stinking losing Braves 8.5 game blow! This is a Atlanta Braves all time high lite of stinking. Joins the sorry 100 game losers of the 70s and 80s. This sorry bunch of nothing needs to be blown up and a new team put together. There is at least 10 I would can right out, starting with the stinking GM and manager. I certainly an through paying my money to this stinking mob until THEY MAKE A TRUE COMMITTMENT TO WINNING!!! Sorry bunch of losers. Places the Loserville tag directly on Atlanta again. Sorry stinking Braves. Lowe cannot leave soon enough. $15 million for 18 losses! Heck, I can lose 18 games and will only charge them a $100 grand!
gotigers72
September 29th, 2011
8:25 am
The Snakes get Kirk Gibson to manage and he motivates his team, shows some fire in the belly and his team wins their division. We have Fredo over there, just stands there like a statue, no fire, no want to, no motivating his players. As Jack Nicholson’s character in “The Last Detail” says to the prisoner [a very laid back, passive individual] that he is escorting to prison, “Don’t you ever just want to romp and stomp and tear somebody’s head off?”
Fredi does not deseve to be a ML manager. The Marlins finally figured that out, and the Braves need to NOW! The Marlins went out and got Ozzie G. Somebody with some salt and the fire in the belly. Bobby Cox had that and the Braves need someone with those traits.
What they’re saying about the collapses | HardballTalk
September 29th, 2011
8:25 am
[...] Chipper Jones: “When you’re in a slump as a team, you find a bunch of different ways to lose. The bats go silent, you get wild on the mound, you walk in runs – whatever. You find ways to lose. Man, we sure did it in the last couple of weeks.” [...]
BravesfaninAugusta
September 29th, 2011
8:27 am
Bobby Cox: I take responsibility for this loss.
Mike Smith: I take responsibility for this loss.
Fredi Gonzalez: It’s just one of those things, Tip your cap to the other team. We tried our best and just came up a little short.
Jeff Loria
September 29th, 2011
8:31 am
Now you know why I fired Fredi.
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
8:34 am
These Philly fans are MIGHTY confident for a team that just guaranteed itself a matchup with the one NL team that has a winning record against them, don’t you think? The Cards just whipped ‘em in Philly a few weeks ago, and you’re beating your chest on a Braves’ board? LOL
Please. You clowns WILL be out of the playoffs by next weekend and I can’t wait to hear the excuses. “We need more pitching, Ruben waaaaaahhhh!”
RAYS MAKE PLAYS!!!!!!
up north
September 29th, 2011
8:36 am
Better that it ended. It was too painful to watch, and I might have had a heart attack watching a tiebreaker today.
Clean out the coaching staff.
George
September 29th, 2011
8:37 am
CHIPPER – Hall of Flop – 0 for 5
Games 8 – 7 – 6 – 5 – 4 – 3 – 2 – 1 – OUT
WALK- walk – walk – Walk – walk – WALK – LOOSE..
fred
September 29th, 2011
8:38 am
everybody on team is to blame nost just a few. still think they have one of best teams in nl , just need to get more batting and get better with it , learn to score!!!!!!!!
Wearing ou the Relievers : baseballmusings.com
September 29th, 2011
8:39 am
[...] a terrible month and a crushing extra inning defeat by the Phillies, Fredi Gonzalez remained positive. Asked if his rookie relievers were worn [...]
Bob the Blogger
September 29th, 2011
8:39 am
To me, this loss was not the worst thing in the world, because the Braves simply did not have enough left to succeed in the post season. JJ and Hanson were out, Lowe was ineffective, Chipper was hobbling on a bad knee, McCann obviously was not over his injury, Venters and Kimbrell were out of gas. Realistically, what chance did they have against the Brewers and Phillies?
steve brown
September 29th, 2011
8:44 am
Who needs to go? I would say the genius or geniuses that structured this team so that during this off season we get to wait in anticipation of next year when $30 million (or around 33% ) of our total player salaries goes to Lowe and Jones.
Fredi Gone zalez
September 29th, 2011
8:46 am
Tip your cap and move on Fredi…There’s absolutely no fire and no improvements being made.
ajc writers included.
George
September 29th, 2011
8:46 am
STRETCH – You think CHIPPER carried the brave YOU are RIGHT
DOWN down down AND OUT.
phil
September 29th, 2011
8:48 am
Sean
September 29th, 2011
5:18 am
It is. Is Fredi Gonzalez the brightest man on Earth? No. Who is? How do you really judge a manager? By wins? By playoff appearances/wins? How can you tell if that is due to talent on the team or good managing? There aren’t stats for that.
Was the Braves success in the 90s because of Bobby Cox? Or because of great pitching? A combo of both? If so, which had more to do with it?
In other words…let’s give Fredi a little more of a chance here guys. One season of 89 wins and coming close to the playoffs? At least we’re not Cubs fans.
Don’t get me wrong…I’m super disappointed. Fredi might’ve/could’ve/should’ve done better in some games. I bet he feels pretty responsible. Would you feel responsible? Would you show it in the post game interview that you know people could possibly tear you up about?
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You can have Fredi if that’s what you want. I’ve already said I won’t be attending another game as long as that idiot is in charge of the team. I’m good and ticked off this morning after we all had to sit through this garbage that they passed off as being baseball over the last month.
Did anyone listen to his remarks? The man can’t even complete a sentence. At one point, he said something about a moral victory. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Moral victory? I can’t believe anyone would let this dunce insult their intelligence to that degree. A moral victory my foot. Give us a damn break. You screwed it up and now you don’t have the guts to take the blame or the fall for it.
Pathetic.
Get rid of this guy and do it soon….
Braves Fan
September 29th, 2011
8:48 am
Time to dispatch Fredi, Chipper & Lowe ! Enough of old & overpaid !
Re-tool the lineup & let the kids take over the pitching staff !
James
September 29th, 2011
8:51 am
Remember all that cap tippin’ early in the year… 1 and done
wow
September 29th, 2011
8:51 am
Guys Frank had his chance to go get Pence and instead got bourn(and hes played well but schafer was coming into is own as well. after that trade we played Bourn and Constanza together and it worked well. then Wren remembered that we needed a RF and right handed bat and got Diaz and gave up on Bourn and Constanza why? if Frank makes the pence move we now have a RF and a power right handed bat!!!! its simple Frank didnt get the job done at the trade deadline and it cost the braves the playoff!! Now bourn will cost us 8 million next years !
batman
September 29th, 2011
8:51 am
Wren got the wrong player from Houston.
Bama Brave
September 29th, 2011
8:53 am
1. Told you all Marteen should not be in the out field 2. For ALL that said that we dont need Hunter Pence You ALL was Wrong!
Buck Nasty
September 29th, 2011
8:53 am
Hey Joe Blow Maddon…The only reason the Rays are in the playoffs is because the Red Sox pulled an epic choke job…The Rangers will club them like a baby seal…and you should thank them for that…do you really want your little league team to get steamrolled by the Phillies again?? The Rays have about as much chance of winning the WS as you have of moving out of your mom’s basement…
BFChris27
September 29th, 2011
8:54 am
I am rooting for my Rays & D-Backs. I will root for Cards to beat Phillies though.
phil
September 29th, 2011
8:54 am
mjn99
September 29th, 2011
7:29 am
you know, maybe you guys should of showed a little more disappointment earlier when all this was happening. All I ever heard from them was that it was no big deal, we’re still up, tomorrow’s another day, etc. well there is no more tomorrow and you guys blew it. They showed no heart the last month and I really believe that the bullpen actually pitched better when they were used everyday. They started losing it when they were trying to rest them. I think they needed to pitch everyday.
I’ll I heared all year when I was complaining about losing games in April was that it was still early. That same mentality was in place even through ZSept. and that’s what killed this team. You have to play every game to win because sure enough that one game you lost in May would have put you in the playoffs in Sept if you had just won it. I am disgusted with the attitude this team had over the last month. I saw nothing showing any extra effort to win. It was like they just didn’t care. Maybe that was not true but that was the perception they gave everyone and sometimes that is worse.
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ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!
It ticks me off every time I think about the morons on these blogs who thought losing games early was no big deal. THEY ALL MATTER, YOU FOOLS. ALL of them.
Do you get it now???? Helllooooooo? Do you?
You screw around in one damn game somewhere along the line and look what happens when the team proceeds to quit.
I can’t believe how upset I am by all of this….
BFChris27
September 29th, 2011
8:54 am
I meant to say rooting for my Rays & for D-Backs on the NL side.
Ralph
September 29th, 2011
8:55 am
I just want to hear one more thing out of Fredi after he gets his walking papers, “well, its just one of those things”.
Enough of Mr. nice guy, get us a manager that will kick ass and take names.
phil
September 29th, 2011
8:57 am
I love Chipper, but he was a terrible flop down the stretch too….just played awful over all…and I know he was going on one leg.
As for Wayward, if they shipped him out of Atlanta today on a railcar, I would dance a jig. I’m sick to death of his over-hyped backside already. He accomplished zip this year other than helping us lose a bunch of games.
Don’t even get me started on the pathetic McSlump who just totally quit on us offensively and defensively…aaarrrrrrrrgghhhhhhh!!!
Ghostrider
September 29th, 2011
8:58 am
@Philly Fan
I hope and pray the Cards destroy Filthadelphia. They should’ve won with a $200m dollar payroll, the yankess of the NL. God I hate Filthadelphia and their scum bag fans.
Shut Up Dammed Philly Yankee
September 29th, 2011
8:58 am
don’t lIsten to what Dammed Yankee says. Charlie is a beloved figure in this city (Philadelphia), he has the best record of all time for this franchise and we would only trade for Fredi G if you would throw in a six pack of beer and Take Dammed Philly Yankee with you!
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
9:00 am
Batman,
Incorrect! Wren got the right guy from Hosuton (for cheap) because the Braves team needed a leadoff hitter and good defensive player in CF. Bourn did his job, but the rest of the guys like McCann, Jones, Freeman and Prado comepletely vanished when you needed them most. But that’s the past, focus on the future now!
R _ Y S W O R L D C H _ M P S!!!!!!
^Ummmm… I’d like to buy an A, Pat!
panamajack
September 29th, 2011
9:01 am
Glad it’s over, if this team were placed in the standings where they belong they would be in last place, not second.
wow
September 29th, 2011
9:04 am
@ joe maddon we lose 6 million for kk and 6 from mcclouth r we happy with spening 8-10 on bourn for next year?
phil
September 29th, 2011
9:05 am
The Braves let the Bosox beat them out for the worst collapse ever. Oh, do I ever miss Omar.
Larry
September 29th, 2011
9:09 am
phil,
Agreed, and you know to well how I feel about Fruity. I had absolutely nothing against this man but after only about 30-40 games I was on here telling everyone I think we have a problem.
My suspician and concern grew each each month and culminating in an epic collapse. The guy is so in over his head and hadn’t a clue how to.coach and lead his team through this. Up 3 games with 5 to go with the last 3 at home against a team with nothing to game and they go 0-5. Wow!
Anyway, to your point, our only real influence and power as fans I’d the almighty dollar…and this is where we CAN make a difference! Anyone who pays one red cent to finance and enable this garbage is no less to blame. Show your power and demand excellence from the Braves ownership by not buying a ticket. This is the one time where a profit driven corporate owner could work to our advantage. Lower tickets sales = lower profits = Braves Management scrutiny.
It’s been great reading your astute comments this baseball season…always a pleasure to share the ride with a bright and logical blogger.
Best regards,
Larry
feeanch
September 29th, 2011
9:13 am
I feel worse today than I did last night. This one’s gonna hurt for a long time. My 5 and 6 yr old boys cried this morning when I told them we weren’t going to the playoff games we had tickets for. They couldn’t comprehend how we could have tickets in our hands but still couldn’t go. Brutal.
BraveDawg
September 29th, 2011
9:14 am
I really think sometimes the Braves teams in the seventies and eighties were much easier to take. This is really, I”m just , what can you say?
Zenman
September 29th, 2011
9:14 am
Rays-winners
Braves-losers
Red Sox-losers
Phillies fans-the biggest losers
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
9:16 am
wow,
I would do everything to resign Bourn at around 8-10M. He’s a gamer, gets on bases, steals, plays defense, and clearly has fire! (Did you see him screaming in the dugout last night?). One of the best CFs in the business, but underappreciated it seems.
Again, the Braves need a power hitting LF, somebody who can get you 25 HRs 85 RBI. Might cost you a young arm but you have to make the move. If Prado is your future 3B, start grooming him for the position since you know Chipper’s gone after next season. Heyward has to bounce back, 2012 could be a make or break year for him. Don’t know what you can do at shortstop, but it can’t be Alex Gonzalez, time to move on. Your team is on the right, just let the dead weight contracts fall by the wayside and don’t overpay.
Until then: Rays, my man. RAYS!
Philly Fan
September 29th, 2011
9:17 am
Hey, Atlanta.
Who’s your daddy ?
The Nationals are one player away from being the second best team in the NL East !
How about an extension for Lowe, Chipper & McLouth ? ! ? ! ? !
Hey, Chipper: MAN UP ! I bet he’s back on his Texas ranch already !
philly fan 4 ever
September 29th, 2011
9:18 am
Charlie Manuel coached a team with as many major injuries as any team in baseball.Utley out 1/3 of season ..Howard playing one one leg missing games….Polonco out 1/3 of the season…Victorino out….Rollins out and playing hurt 1/3 of the season…Blanton out all year…Oswald out 1/2 of the year…Raul injured missed many games..ect…I wouldn’t trade him for anty manager in baseball…Phil-Yankee you stinkin New yorkers always crying..F U
ATL Fan
September 29th, 2011
9:20 am
Ugh. This hurts.
Billy Marlin
September 29th, 2011
9:20 am
Thank you Braves for Fredi Gonzalez and Dan Uggla. We have some more unproductive players we wanna dump on you !
See ya in 2012 in our new ballpark !
philly fan 4 ever
September 29th, 2011
9:21 am
Ghost rider…WAAAAAAAA…WAAAAAA..The Braves couldn’t even win one game against our minor leaguers that you played the last three innings last night
Larry
September 29th, 2011
9:22 am
And sorry about all the typos. Since DOB banned my home computer isp address for some reason I’ve had to use my iPhone just to comment. The autocorrect feature and small screen make it difficult to review for accuracy…plus, I’m too lazy to bother!
DOB,
What time have I been sentenced to and when will I be eligible for parole?
Larry
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
9:22 am
Philly fans still yapping? Riddle me this: How the hell do you not win a World Series with Roy Halladay leading your staff last season and all of that offense? Pipe down, crybabies.
TBR!
Cornjolio
September 29th, 2011
9:24 am
in 2010 Bobby Cox got us to the post-season on a wing & a prayer.
Bobby didn’t have Uggla, Bourn, Freeman or a healthy Prado & Chipper like Fredi had at his disposal in 2011. Doesn’t say much about Fredi.
alex
September 29th, 2011
9:24 am
there are some people on this blog who kindly accept mediocrity,I do not and FG is a mediocre manager and nice guy that he is , he needs to be in the minor leagues to “support” the young players,the big leagues are TOO much for him, as I have said all season long he will and has lost the team 6-10 games with poor or NO managing.Clearly we have a lot of fair to good players . I believe that no one except bourne and freeman are available for trade. I am NOt optimistic about wrenn, he may be in over his head also…..
Joe Maddon
September 29th, 2011
9:24 am
The Marlins? LOL
bitter in beantown
September 29th, 2011
9:25 am
I can say it WE BLEW 162 game season and it hurts..we hate the Yankees more than you could ever hate the Phillies..but ah SH>T …just sharing the pain I guess..I guess we just weren’t good enough and that hurts.
RFT
September 29th, 2011
9:26 am
DOB, now that the season is over, can you give us a sense what was going on in the clubhouse over the past month? This team seemed to have some comraderie and some chemistry prior to McCann’s injury, but around that time, the comraderie and the chemistry seemed to disappear. Was something going on behind the scenes?
Cornjolio
September 29th, 2011
9:26 am
a real catcher would be nice to have, one that calls a good game & can throw runners out.
Put McCann on thirdbase or trade him to the AL where he can DH fulltime !
ray
September 29th, 2011
9:26 am
the outcome was never in doubt. the only ques was how. they decided to make it exciting. either they can’t score or they score early and bats fall asleep.
when your closer can’t handle his emotions, it’s a problem. when you use Lowe on a regular basis in must wins, you have a problem. when you have an erratic offesne, it’s trouble. when you have a mediocre manager who likes to adore his oppoments, it’s trouble. when you have a GM that mismanages the little money he has, you have a problem. when your draft pitchers constantly and most of your top pitching prospects are undrafted intl signees, you have a problem.
once they lost all 3 vs cards a few weeks ago, the writing was on the wall. having 2 starters out doesn’t help. having little right handed hitting doesn’t either. Diaz and Wilson didn’t add anything significant. when you give away many players for nothing, this is what you end up with. just look around and see all the ex Barves flourishing elsewhere-guys we let go or traded for zilch. it catches up to you.
Jose Constanza
September 29th, 2011
9:27 am
I want to play everyday. When I play everyday I hit and team wins. I get benched & have to pinch-hit, and team loses.
I don’t understand.
mpimentel
September 29th, 2011
9:28 am
10 things the braves need to do for the next season:
1.- fire freddy g, he is the manager of the biggest collapsing team in nl history…doesn’t need more explanations.
2.- get rid of d lowe: release him or via trade for wathever we can find even if we have to pay him the complete next season’s salary…he is bad,mediocre as he can be
3.- send hayward to winter league…he need to play with players like him….he deffinetly can’t handdle it in major league level…more seasoning will help him to find himself
4.- move prado back down to the infield, he can be an exceptional utility ball player…and will play more games at 3b. than crippled jones anyway
5.- sign or make a trade for a cappable offensive outfield player…we finnaly can use the monney of kk to something good
6.- get rid of: c. martinez, linebrick, conrrad, wilson and diaz…if they can’t help you they’re dammagge you…those goost have to be out of the braves’s dogout
7.- sign a ss more productive and proved than gonzalez…that can be a bridge until pastorciny get readdy
8.- make a rotation with huddy,beachy,hanson,vizcaino,delgado…keep in major league level teheran and medlen for any need down the stretch…we have to turn this team to the next level in the shoulder of our top guy’s arms
9.- fire the batting coach, pendleton (guess who wasn’t in the team in our only champ’s year), bring new blood to the team, we have a lot of good batters retired players who can teach better than that fellow…why need new blood because we need to turn around the way of play of this very talented team
10.- forget what had just happend krimbel you will be our closser for years to come….let’s get real we have rockyes playing at 1b, the back part of the bullpen, and a 2 year player in rf…besaides of the youngs guns arms (julio,arodys and delgado)…we can be the next big thing…keep and make a team around: freeman, heyward,mccann,bourn,venters,krimbel,o’flaherty,julio,arodys,delgado,beachy,medlen…with the only two vets can deserve stay in the ball club: huddy and uggla. pdd see yo in march guys time to see winter ball…with my hometown team TIGRES DEL LICEY…rep. dom.
who's crying now by Pattsy Cline
September 29th, 2011
9:28 am
Waaaaaa….Waaaaa…Fredi waaaa…Chipper waaaaa…bull pen…waaaa…infield…waaaaa…line up…waaaaa.errors…waaaaaa
Abogar
September 29th, 2011
9:28 am
http://www.firefredi.com/
Pass it along and ‘like’ the page.
alex
September 29th, 2011
9:29 am
@philly fans you’re right you beat us with AAA pitchers;you’re the real deal, we are not. You’ve got bigger fish to fry, I’m betting on the brew crew to give you a great run. You guys have great attendence with loud fans,great . Come back IF you win a world series, anything less will be a BIG disappointment…. GO brewers
Texas Braves
September 29th, 2011
9:29 am
Hey, Atlanta.
Thanks again for the Texeira trade.
We are still reaping the rewards of that brilliant move and look forward to another World Series.
Texas Rangers
RICH
September 29th, 2011
9:30 am
HEY CHIPPER WORRIED ABOUT THE PHILLIES NOW.PHILLIES 2011 WORLD CHAMPS.BRAVES FANS WHAT EXCUSE DO YOU HAVE NOW.AND YEA IM SAYING IT LOUD
tina
September 29th, 2011
9:30 am
Great day today sun came up and and no Braves baseball. Being there last night calling Braves office see if I can get my money back.Phils score 4 runs 3 we help by walking batters 7th inning 2 errors come on Heyward you piece of crap your nor an RF. We get 2 walks to start an inning cant score THANKS Pence you are a RF.AAA next year Heyward. Prado and JJ in a trade for leftfielder.Tampa has best Manager in baseball so take that Freddi you loser like we want to hear your comments about how they gave it there all. Please Wren make alot of changes. We need a SS LF and RF and a catcher who can catch and for Lowe to never throw another inning for the Braves. Like to us fire Freddi and if they dont surethe hell would if in springtraining he saids Lowe is one of the starters.As for the 2011 chokers maybe in 2012 but with this roster we will be fighting the Mets for 4th place so again SS LF abd RF.
eastbound and down
September 29th, 2011
9:30 am
Regarding Fredi’s following comment, “maybe they are, maybe they aren’t..” look at the number of appearances! FIRE THIS GUY! DO NOT REWARD FAILURE!!
The last couple of weeks, it looked like Kimbrel and Venters both were on fumes
“That’s just the way it goes. Maybe they are, maybe they’re not. For me, those are excuses. If we hold their appearances back, maybe we’re a .500 club. Maybe we’re not in this situation [playing for a postseason berth]. Again, it’s a long season. It’s over with. Too bad. The fans were great, especially these last three games here against the Phillies. And go get ‘em next year
Lobosolo
September 29th, 2011
9:31 am
Thanks to Sean for some of the best comments on the crybaby threads all season… Sean, these armchair cryboys don’t realize any of what you said about the game… they don’t know the game and are not smart enough to figure the “game of inches” part out… They are basically just a bunch of whiners that sit on their behinds and yell at the TV after they failed once again to set the world on fire in their own miserable jobs… They are stupid and jealous of the fact that ball players and managers make so much more than they do, and feel like because they do that they are owed a perfect game every night… They live in a world of 20-20 hindsight, convinced that they would have made the correct decision every time Fredi made one that didn’t pan out… They don’t know the game and refuse to learn about it, or are just incapable of doing so…. They don’t realize the beauty of the simpleness of the game, one given to failure most of the time…
They don’t take a season of finishing in the top ten in all of the major leagues as an accomplishment, just like they don’t appreciate the accomplishments of Bobby Cox’s years, because they just flat out DON’T UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE GAME… I’ll bet there’s not one of these whining, sniveling, sissy crybabies that is anywhere near the top ten of their professions…
I for one am as disappointed as any over their loss, but I enjoyed this team battling through injuries and slumps to remain in the chase until the bitter end… To play as well as they did, relying on so many rookies, was heartening… They did a great job… watching Uggla break out of his slump was heartening, too, given how hard he played and his failure to make excuses… Watching the chemistry of the team in the dugout was great, something you don’t see on teams that don’t have it or a manager who supports his players no matter what…
These jacklegs that have nothing better to do in life but complain failed to see any of these and the other positives of the season… They talk about heart… I can’t imagine that there was one player on the team that didn’t try his heart out this year, but the blubbering bozos on here think that, in addition to their “expertise” about every facet of the game, from hitting and pitching to strategy, that they are all mind readers, and that their self-appointed genius can tell what a player is thinking by looking at him while sitting in their armchair with a nice cushion on their behind… If the Braves had made it and won the World Series, these same cryboys would be walking around gloating about how “their” team won it all, while all year long they had NOTHING but derogatory and derisive comments to make about “their” teammates…
Have a miserable Fall and Winter, Cry-bots… try to do something useful, like LEARN something… I imagine you’ll just be transfering your “expertise” to the drudgery that is football, where you really belong… I imagine y’all know everything there is to know about that, too… As your rear end spreads wider by the day, and what remains of any sense you have dwindles down to peanut proportions, consider giving up on the team you so love to kick, yell, and scream at… They don’t deserve such a bunch of enlightened know-it-all-CRYBABIES as you…
Congrats, Bravos… you gave it your all, of this I am sure… As with every baseball season I experience, I got to see some great moments of stellar play to tamper the bad days, as always happens in a season this long… Thanks Fredi, for finishing in the top ten in your first year… looking forward to next season for sure… Can’t wait to see how all the young’uns pan out..
And finally to you sissy-boy crybabies… A BIG TIP OF THE CAP… you are the champions of the boorish, whiney, sports fan louts… You win the booby prize of truly being the best at what you do, and have set a very high bar for the rest of the rest of the oafs in the country that are trying to keep up with you…
who's crying now by Pattsy Cline
September 29th, 2011
9:31 am
mc cann…waaaaa Hayward…waaaa…LIstening to you guys you have no good players..then how did you win 95 games..luck I guess