Hudson eager to take mound for Wednesday’s finale

Four losses in a row have the Braves down to their final game of the season for a shot at making the playoffs, this after leading the wild card by 8 ½ games three weeks ago.

But their ace Tim Hudson will take the mound at Turner Field on Wednesday night against the Phillies confident.

“I’m ready,” Hudson said after Tuesday’s loss. “I feel good about it. I feel like we’re going to go out there and win the ball game tomorrow. Hopefully with the win it’s a clinch. If not, we’ll go to St. Louis and take care of business there.”

Hudson is pitching against the Phillies’ Joe Blanton, though Blanton is expected to go only a couple of innings in a “bullpen game” for the Phillies, who’d like to get Cole Hamels and Vance Worley some action as well.

The Braves and Cardinals are now tied for the wild card lead, meaning if they both win or both lose on Wednesday, they’ll go to a tiebreaker on Thursday.

The Braves and Cardinals would play a one-game playoff in St. Louis, by virtue of the Braves’ losing five of six games head-to-head with the Cardinals this season. Brandon Beachy is slated to pitch that game for the Braves, if necessary, starting at 8:07 EDT on TBS.

To force that game, or win the wild card outright and get the Braves into the playoffs for the second straight year, Hudson knows he has to pitch well. That’s no easy task against the NL East division champion Phillies, who have scored 11 runs in the past two nights to win games No. 100 and 101 on the season.

But Hudson has been there. He beat the Phillies on the final day of the 2010 season to help the Braves clinch the wild card in Bobby Cox’s last season as Braves’ manager. Hudson limited the Phillies to four runs in seven innings in an 8-7 win.

“It’s exactly the same essentially,” said Hudson, who is 1-1 with a 3.48 ERA in three starts against the Phillies this season. “I enjoy it. It’s going to be fun. I’m going to be having the most fun out of anybody in the stadium tomorrow.”

Hudson has won his last two starts in fairly dominant fashion, with eight shutout innings in a 1-0 win over the Mets, and then allowing three runs in 5 2/3 innings against the Nationals in a game he had to leave early with cramps.

Hudson spent much of Friday night after that game in the hospital receiving five bags of IV fluids, but it shouldn’t be a factor on Wednesday. Hudson said it was his fault for not hydrating properly for the humidity in Washington.

Hudson’s recent success came after he made an adjustment with the positioning of his heel on the rubber, and with the angle of his wrist behind the ball. The result has been better action on his pitches, especially his patented sinker.

“My last two starts I considered playoff type games; essentially they were that important,” Hudson said. “(Wednesday) is no different.”

The Braves have won only four of their past 11 games, and Hudson has won two of those. This is the pitcher the Braves would handpick to start with the season on the line.

“If we’ve got to win a game, I’d want Huddy on the mound,” Braves third baseman Chipper Jones said.

The same goes for Hudson.

“There’s not another place I’d be rather be than out there on the mound when the game means something,” Hudson said.

292 comments Add your comment

Feeach

September 28th, 2011
12:11 am

Sadly first.

blailock

September 28th, 2011
12:18 am

Buckhead Eddie

September 28th, 2011
12:22 am

Hudson is the man. Go lead

PMC

September 28th, 2011
12:26 am

How did they ever win 9 this month? All Huddy?

shiiit

September 28th, 2011
12:27 am

Again, Why did we start Lowe? Does Freddie not get that he sucks by now?

rally

September 28th, 2011
12:29 am

Forget the mound, Tim. How about at the plate. You are going to have to produce your own offense since these slumber lumber wonders cannot hit.

dedmammal

September 28th, 2011
12:35 am

personally,i think fredi is out of his league!

Reality Check

September 28th, 2011
12:43 am

The death march begins!

reckingball

September 28th, 2011
12:43 am

Dance Band on the Titanic.

jdog

September 28th, 2011
12:44 am

This is what the Braves do. We will win tomorrow and we will be in the playoffs. Oh yea of little faith.

Ken Stallings

September 28th, 2011
12:47 am

The only part of this I think the Braves can hang their hat on is that Hudson will pitch a good game, maybe even a great game. But, the Phillies are going for the sweep to have momentum in the playoffs and the Braves lineup has to produce runs.

But, I don’t think Saint Louis is going to lose tomorrow night either!

And then I don’t give the Braves any chance of winning a one-game playoff.

uggghhhla

September 28th, 2011
12:47 am

At least it seems like Huddy’s the only one with a pulse and passion on this team.

bravesfaninNashville

September 28th, 2011
12:54 am

dedmammal… personally, i think fredi is out of his league!

Exactly…. He needs to go when this is over because he does not belong in a major league dugout. And don’t say it’s because we lost Hanson and JJ… Either. Tony LaRussa lost Adam Wainwright the first week of the season and Matt Holiday and Pujols each missed significant playing time and he found a way to get it done. Wainwright out all year = JJ and Hanson missing 1/2 year… same # of starts. LaRussa knows how to win a close game and Fredi is like you said out of his league.. Please end this terrible feel good story experiment and get a qualified manager for next year. The Marlins and Nationals are going to spend money and be better next year so we’ll have more than the Phillies on our hands. The Brave could conceivably finish 4th if they don’t have a good offseason. You can be the Phillies, Nats and Marlins will.

Clueless..

September 28th, 2011
1:12 am

It just smells real bad. And you thought it only happens in the NBA Grasshopper?

Clueless..

September 28th, 2011
1:13 am

Fredi=Jim moron

Clueless..

September 28th, 2011
1:14 am

Hey Chipper go fishing will ya?

Billy

September 28th, 2011
1:31 am

Fredi is Wren’s April Fools joke to fans…but its no joke Fredi is one stupid mgr. Fire Wren, Fredi, Parrish & the nasty talking pitchers coach.

Good luck Hudson!

lowdownjj

September 28th, 2011
1:38 am

Hudson is a stud. Chipper, when in the game, is still clutch. Freddie needs a cherry on top of his rookie of the year honors. Bravos get er done tomorrow. GO HOUSTON !!

jdog

September 28th, 2011
1:55 am

What people seem to forget is the Braves penchant for the dramatic. I guess all the doubters forgot about last year. The Braves are the perpetual underdogs and that’s the way I like them.

Nobody ever doubted the Phil’s ability to clench the division. Any team with an inflated budget can win.

This is baseball, though. Actually, this is Braves baseball. There is magic here. The same magic I remember seeing when I was a kid. This is the stuff movies are made of. Memories. Saying I was watching game 3 against the Phillies.

TRue fans understand this moment; this game.

It’s David against Goliath. It’s history.

I refuse to lose hope in my team.

blackdog

September 28th, 2011
2:01 am

gotta score a few runs-so no chance

Strikeoutlookin

September 28th, 2011
2:14 am

Well said Jdog….. Im with ya man….. Above all else we have Huddy on the mound with a win and your in scenerio… Screw the blown lead… Win and we are in…. period. Playoffs start in St. Louie or Wherever. Lets go Huddy!

Nevada Roy

September 28th, 2011
2:16 am

The way the Braves bats are going Huddy may need to pitch a complete game shutout and hit his second career home run to win.

darrell starks

September 28th, 2011
2:27 am

This Fredi guy is real smart for and manager.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

September 28th, 2011
2:30 am

Since CONSTANZA have been on bench the BRAVES ARE NOW 8 WIN AND 19 LOST and still counting, like i said the braves will get sweept by phillies if CONSTANZA ride the pine 2 down and 1 to go, dam im good.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!

Mitchell

September 28th, 2011
2:30 am

Third career home run.

First? Kyle Lohse of the Cardinals, 2009.

darrell starks

September 28th, 2011
2:36 am

GAME THREE FREDI LINE UP

1. BOURN CF
2. PRADO LF
3. CHIPPER 3B
4. UGGLA 2B
5. FREEMAN 1B
6. MCCANN CATCHER
7. WILSON SS
8. HEYWARD RF

BRAVES 2 PHILLIES 8 IS MY PREDICTION
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

September 28th, 2011
2:41 am

ME COACHING MY LINE UP

1. BOURN CF
2. CONSTANZA LF
3. CHIPPER 3B
4. UGGLA 2B
5. FREEMAN 1B
6. PRADO SS
7. MCCANN CATCHER
8. HEYWARD LF

BRAVES 7 PHILLIES 4 IS MY PREDICTION WITH ME COACHING
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!

darrell starks

September 28th, 2011
2:42 am

MY BAD I MEAN CONSTANZA IN RF.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!

clay

September 28th, 2011
2:44 am

Sure will be intense tomorrow. I hope the stadium is packed out. We still could clinch tomorrow, but we need to take care of business and and little help from Houston. It’s possible.

darrell starks

September 28th, 2011
2:45 am

CONSTANZA LF
HEYWARD RF
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

September 28th, 2011
2:51 am

Clay- this Fredi guy continue to put player in bad position, when Constanza played the braves where the most exciting team in baseball, now since been on bench everything is in slow motion and now the most boring team in baseball with stationary baseball. This why Fredi should be fire because a blind man can see how good the braves can be with Constanza playing.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!

A-Ville Ranger

September 28th, 2011
3:12 am

I wonder if Hudson will have fun if he’s losing the game tonight…which I fully expect he will be. I was afraid Gonzalez would have Bobby Cox/soccer mom syndrome..(.they’re all winners if they never win a race). I yearn for somebody in the organization to demand performance.

Reality Check

September 28th, 2011
3:36 am

I hope it’s as empty as a Marlins game and the lone fans are screaming obscenities at the dugout, loudly enough to pick up on TV/radio.

TheAntiMe

September 28th, 2011
3:47 am

The Braves are in surrender mode these days before they ever even take the field. They got no nads. If, just one more time, I hear one of them say, “We just have to go out and take care of business and win tomorrow” I’m literally going to hurl.

jo1vila

September 28th, 2011
3:49 am

can we trade fredi….and.throw in lowe and his pay for a bag of balls and a bat with some hits in it!

Let's Be Rational

September 28th, 2011
4:14 am

Fredi is Bobby Cox. Bobby Cox used to sit players on the bench, who were tearing up the league, with the rationale of putting a seasoned pro in the position. You can go back to Mark Derosa’s first year in the league. He was hitting .400 and they traded for a shortstop that I do not remember his name, and Cox sat Derosa on the bench for most of the rest of the year, and the shortstop did nothing offensively. Cox did this numerous times. Now Fredi does it with Costanza, and we are supposed to be surprised?

Philly Fan

September 28th, 2011
4:46 am

We like Fredi. He is an awful…er…I mean great manager

Coach D

September 28th, 2011
5:07 am

Oh Braves, Where art thou????
Huddy: dominate. Bats: WAKE-UP!!!!

terrell

September 28th, 2011
5:08 am

This is what you get when you hire Larry Drew part 2.

terrell

September 28th, 2011
5:14 am

Hell, Hudson can pitch a 1 hitter and the Braves would still lose.

terrell

September 28th, 2011
5:20 am

At least it’s an exciting September in Braves country..

Larry

September 28th, 2011
5:59 am

jdog,

Most poetic!

Frankly, however, it is the “Chastain Park,” wine and cheese, aren’t we just so lucky to be blessed by their presence fans that support, condone and perpetuate this mediocrity.

What Fruity Gonzalez has done to this team with his early/mid season goofy lineups (Heyward batting first? Gonzalez or Uggla batting second?) and buffoonery with the pitching staff (hundreds of examples) does not need the be poetically dispelled and rationalized. Otherwise, you are not contributing to our growth and development; you are in fact enabling this garbage by pretending this is a predestined conclusion to your movie fantasy.

Here’s a nonpoetic truth…Fruity Gonzalez is a disastrous choice as manager/leader for this team and this will be most evident by the ticket sales for a playoff game should we sneak in this year and next year’s regular season.

Who wants to watch this?

Braves 2011

September 28th, 2011
6:15 am

Today is Wednesday Sept 26 and we are still in the race.
How many teams can say that?
Hudson gets it.
He sounds delighted the season comes down to him.
The rest of the team, as well as the fans, need to get out of the past and step into the present.
Adopt Hudson’s attitude if u can teammates.
Win or go home today.
Win or go home tomorrow.
Join us in the present and you will enjoy today and hopefully tomorrow.

BCC0224

September 28th, 2011
6:16 am

While I won’t say he is to take full credit for the Braves’ downfall, I would like to add I believe Jack Wilson is the “Cousin Oliver” of the Braves. We were up 8.5 games when he came here from Seattle, where he never played in the playoffs. One game to go and here we are, tied with St. Louis.

And just like Cousin Oliver, Wilson is a jinx.

Go Go you Pilots

September 28th, 2011
6:17 am

So what if braves win st.louis wins we play at St.louis there at 4pm i believe for wildcard spot One Game playoff who freddi goin start Lowe again…Knowin him who would he best not tip cap after St.louis blow out thursday before crowd of 46,494 at Busch stadium place be full…Be glad not here at the Ted where TBS will show to a Nationwide folks of 30,000 there!

terrell

September 28th, 2011
6:18 am

Cant wait to hear Fredi tip his cap to the Cards.

poolcue

September 28th, 2011
6:18 am

AFTER WATCHING 161 GAMES EITHER LIVE OR RECORDED TONITE COULD BE MY LAST! PLAYERS BACK UP TO GET YOUR LAST PAYCHECK. FG LEAVE YOUR LAST CHECK AND GET THE HELL OUT OF TOWN. FREDI AND FRANK , WHAT A JOKE! FANS WILL NOT FORGET THIS. WE DONT NEED HUGS AND FANNY PATS. HOW ABOUT A GOOD FIGHT IN THE DUGOUT OH FOR A BILLY MARTIN CLONE!!!!!!

Bill M.

September 28th, 2011
6:20 am

There sure be no untouchables on this team. Chipper needs to retire. Trade Pudge McCann, Prado and JJ. They are stuck with Lowe for one more season. Change the entire coaching staff. FG is not the best manager but he can’t hit for these guys. The whole problem falls on the hitters.

Larry

September 28th, 2011
6:36 am

Braves 2011,

Today is actually September 28…two days later!

Are you, by chance, related to Fruity Gonzalez?

MJ

September 28th, 2011
6:38 am

Good luck Huddy. Good luck Chipper – despite what your critics say, who know nothing about baseball, you are still the best bat in the line-up. Fredi, let Hinske play left and Constanza play right. Remember a few short weeks ago how those guys were playing, and how we were winning? Heyward has potential, but he is just struggling way too much. Sit the kid down, let him play winter ball somewhere to regain his confidence. We need base runners today so put Constanza in. Give Hinske a chance to add some spark to the batting order. What is it going to hurt? He is positive, and will be agressive. The Phillies are going to use today as a scrimmage game – sit the guys struggling at the plate and give the agressive guys a chance – at this point you clearly have nothing to lose. Your current line-up is tanking

Fredi Gonzalez

September 28th, 2011
6:47 am

I’m prepared to start Derek Lowe on Thursday against the Cardinals. As everyone on this blog knows Derek pitches well in the post-season.

Duh.

The Braves

September 28th, 2011
6:52 am

Playoffs? Playoffs? We don’t want no stinking Playoffs!

Larry

September 28th, 2011
6:52 am

MJ,

Great suggestion on Hinske and Constanza, but the dolt will once again pencil in the same lineup that has blown the lead.

Both Constanza and Bourne in the lineup in August gave us our most exciting and versatile brand of baseball since the early 90’s with Nixon and Sanders in the lineup. But, old Fruity just inexplicably just abandoned it!

Like Cox, Fruity digs the long ball!

Al B.

September 28th, 2011
7:08 am

Curse of Matt Diaz? remember 2 years ago with about 3 games to go. Braves still close in the race and he got out trying to score on a short passed ball…game over/season over. What is the team’s record since he was reaquired?

And I like Matt D. Just look at his time with Braves, however: NO playoff appearances..

longtimefan

September 28th, 2011
7:12 am

Braves will win, get hot and go to the series! The last month’s debacle will be forgotten.

P.S. Darrell: Prado can not play major league ss

wins-by-a-link

September 28th, 2011
7:17 am

Poor FG, His positive spin, His promise of a better performance tomorrow and His public support for his team is commendable, Unfortunately reality says differently, This team has been unable to beat the lesser teams, The Nats, The Marlins and the Mets, The wine has turned to vinegar, What looked like a promising season has turned sour, The starting pitching and bull pen which held much promise has faded Due to injuries and over use, The hitting which started good has all but disappeared, If by some miracle the Braves make post season I don’t think they would make it through the first round. This team will be remembered not for its acomplishments but by its failures.

JoeJoe

September 28th, 2011
7:18 am

After tonight, Freddie and his hero Derick Lowe should be available to help the Braves front office return all the money collected for post season games.

JoeJoe

September 28th, 2011
7:20 am

The Braves started downhill when Freddie G. started taking Heyward out of the lineup.

Larry

September 28th, 2011
7:24 am

Al B.,

Diaz perfectly exemplifies the Cox/Gonzalez offensive philosophy…wild, free swinging guess hitter (like McCann, Uggla, Gonzalez, Wayward) that looks utterly foolish when ge guesses wrong. When they guess wrong they miss the ball by a foot or watch strikes go by right down the middle of the plate. Even Chipper Jones is frequently now striking out watching perfectly hittable pitches go by with his bat on his shoulder.

After 20+ years buying season tickets, when the Braves kept the Nose Miner last year and the hired his offspring, Fruity Cox, I have not paid for one ticket or been to one single game this year. I’m proud of not paying one red cent to help fund this gooberish managerial philosophy and this predictable brand of either hot or cold baseball

With Fruity as manager, this is a 4th place team next year behind the Phillies, Marlins and Nationals; a bottom dweller if the Meta, with all their resources, ever get it together.

Welcome to the Braves mid/late 1980’s baseball again!

KMo

September 28th, 2011
7:27 am

Kawakami and Lowe, what a great pair

Larry

September 28th, 2011
7:46 am

JoeJoe,

Wrong! The downhill slide we are looking at right now started when Fruity abandoned Constanza and reinserted Heyward.

Wayward has been an automatic out this entire season and he is looked upon by all pitchers who now face him as their out in the order

No pitcher is concerned about facing Wayward under any circumstance!

tjhook

September 28th, 2011
7:52 am

I wish Miss Rogers or DOB would ask Coach Gonzales why Constanza has gotten no regular at bats when the team clearly has trouble scoring runs. Diaz is getting run and Constanza is a bigger threat to score- good batting average vs LH and RH pitchers. What was so important about putting Diaz in? He was batting low in the order often and not a slugging or base running threat

Bravestoldourwarchant

September 28th, 2011
7:57 am

DOB..My question is, what the heck has happened to constanza? he hasn’t played at all since Diaz came back over it seems..

obee

September 28th, 2011
7:59 am

Does anyone here other than Larry think the name “Fruity” is funny?

ATLtodolavida

September 28th, 2011
8:00 am

We need Hudson to hit a home run and pitch a shutout, like he did earlier. Otherwise, we may be toast.

Larry

September 28th, 2011
8:06 am

Does anyone here other than me think the name “Obee” is funny?

Larry30

September 28th, 2011
8:11 am

I hope they make it in. The stench from blowing the lead would be too great. I’m probably the only person who continues to feel this way, but it’s time for the Braves to do the “unthinkable” and send out feelers for what they might get in a trade for McCann. He is terrible behind the plate. He rarely throws out base stealers and watching another passed ball last night to put another runner in scoring position was a joke. I’ve always figured he paid for the Suntrust seats to be built so he wouldn’t have to run as far to get the passed balls. Anyone who thinks that McCann will still be playing catcher in 5 years is delusional. His future is in the AL and it’s time to look into that future before he has no trade value. Trade him now while he is “the best catcher in baseball,” at least that’s what some people claim.

Larry

September 28th, 2011
8:12 am

“Fruity” has a precise meaning, but is difficult to define. Loosely
speaking, the word refers to something which is cheerfully and perkily
saccharine, naïve, generic, corny, banal, innocuous, un-self-consciously
dippy, sexually neutered (or, conversely, having perverse subtexts), or just
plain dumb – and is amusing because of it. Dorkiness which doesn’t even know
that it’s dorky, but celebrates its own dorkiness anyway: that which is
flamboyantly and happily retarded. Closely synonymous with gay, in the
not-necessarily-homosexual sense.

Thus the name: Fruity Gonzalez

Get it, obee wan kenobi?

dozer

September 28th, 2011
8:14 am

Lifeless, gutless, heartless – they are getting a total pass from the national media because of the BoSox. Lets hope there’s an HONEST post-mortem from the organization when this is over. This is a lineup stacked with a bunch or 7 and 8-spot hitters built around a once-great but now breaking-down 3rd baseman and a catcher that seems to wear out every year. Uggla has the homers but has been terrible in every other offensive category. freeman & bourne are authentic, but the rest of the lineup is a bunch of question marks. their offensive mindset is better served for a softball team – 43% of runs coming via homers. This is Bobby Cox all over again. Where’s the PRIDE?????

Braves Fan in Philly

September 28th, 2011
8:15 am

I’m so disgusted by this team. It’s not just the losing but the way they’ve gone about it. I’ve watched Prado twice over the past 2 days peel off on crucial double plays where any self-respecting baseball player fighting for their life to make the playoffs would be sending Jimmy Rollins flying into left field. You’ve got the Phils own pitcher tagging up to hustle to third and Victorino racing home on a short fly ball in games that don’t even matter for Philadelphia (since when does Heyward have no arm?). D-Lowe can’t even seem to remember to hold Jimmy Rollins on first base. The Phillies have shown more fight in conquering 102 wins than the Braves have. Last night on the local Philadelphia coverage, Gary Matthews blasted Prado and Bourne for simply turning their backs on the monster Pence Home Run. I don’t know if anyone else caught it but while all hell was breaking loose last night for Atlanta, cameras cut to a scene of Fredi G and his bench coach. Fredi sat stoic and emotionless and out of nowhere, the bench coach lashes out as clear as day with “Jesus Fu**ing Christ!!” It was the first sign of fight I’ve seen from anyone on this team in 3 weeks. Too bad he’s just the bench coach and doesn’t either a physical limitation or a mental one that would allow him to take the field tonight.

Tim Caskey

September 28th, 2011
8:16 am

Fredi, come on man! why did you start “chuck and duck” Lowe. Lowe is washed up and should be gone after this season. Let’s get ready for our pitchers to be healthly next season,add some more offense and win it all for Chipper’s last hurrah.

Rafael

September 28th, 2011
8:17 am

Fredi, you pitch Derek “Kawakami” Lowe and you KNOW what’s going to happen… A SURE LOSS!!!!

It’s too late… the Cardinals will beat the HAPLESS Astros tonight so it does NOT matter if Hudson and the Braves win. We ALL KNOW what the outcome will be in a 1 game playoff in ST.LOUIS… a LOSS!!! There is NO WAY the Braves will beat ST. LOUIS IN ST. LOUIS in a 1 game playoff. Fredi will probably start his buddy Derek “DUI” Lowe in that game also.

The “Perfect Storm” is going to occur. The Braves bats will awake from the dead tonight, and Hudson will pitch great and our Braves will win. St. Louis WILL beat Houston forcing a 1 game playoff.

There will be 60,000 SCREAMING Cardinal fans at Busch Stadium and the Cards will SLAUGHTER our Braves 10-0.

It’s BETTER if we LOSE tonight and avoid the tragedy. That’s BETTER than watching 60,000 screaming Cardinal fans “YUK it UP” at the Braves expense.

Thank you Fredi for your leadership and motivation this season.

Thank you Derek Lowe for EARNING your 15 millon dollars.

THANK YOU Frank Wren (firefrankwren.com) for ADDING that 4th year (2012) and 15 million for Derek Lowe… yes folks, we got this washed up bum in our rotation NEXT year.

Thank you Scott “Proctor” Linebrink for that CLUTCH relief pitching this season.

Thank you Matt Diaz (”he rakes lefthanders you know”) for being the All-Star that you are.

THANK YOU Jason “BUST” Heyward for living up to the SUPER prospect hype.

Do the math… Braves win tonight and go to St. Louis for a 1 game playoff. The rest is deja vu history… we as Braves fans will see first hand what General George Custer felt like at the Little Big Horn.

Yadier's Neck Tat

September 28th, 2011
8:21 am

We have reached an All Time Lowe.

Larry30

September 28th, 2011
8:22 am

I saw more passion from the contestant who had 20 seconds last night to run from the right field corner to an area behind second base and grab a base and run back to the finish line. The clock was ticking down and he tucked the base against his stomach and dove for the tape, almost sliding into the wall………all for a $50 gift card to a local restaurant. I stood up and yelled out to get him a uniform. What was the deal on the sacrifice that scored Victorino? Heyward looked like he really didn’t even give a serious effort on that play. These guys look lifeless. I hope Gonzalez has the guts to leave Lowe out of the rotation if the braves sneak into the playoffs.

VABravesFan

September 28th, 2011
8:22 am

Even as poorly as the Braves have played this month, I still had all the faith in the world that they’d hang onto their wild card lead. But now it is gone – and their season could be over tonight as well. Hudson will go out there tonight and give it everything he’s got – let’s hope the offense does the same (i.e. not taking anything close with 2 strikes!). Similar to last season, the Braves have a great team that has fallen apart at the end of the season. The difference this year is that it happened so fast. They have collapsed in the month of September and the Cardinals have proven themselves to be more worthy of a playoff position over the past month. But, the Braves still have a chance – sure wish Hudson could pitch the game in St. Louis as well (if necessary). But hey, they’re not out ’til there out, right?

Larry

September 28th, 2011
8:24 am

Larry30,

I made thus suggestion on McCann in April or May and was royally pistol-whipped here!

And not that I don’t like McCann; in fact I love the guy’s intensity and professionalism. My reasons for trading him were a little different and have proven to be valid

I want a whole new personality, identity and offensive philosophy fit this team; a team filled with speedy, contact, situational hitters complimented with only one or two “big bats” in the middle if the lineup. The braves have this ratio backwards with just 1-2 speedy contact hitters and 6-7 free swinging, guess hitting, swing for the fences types

Just look at the Phillies lineup, for example, with really only Howard as the sole free swinging guess hitter who swings for the fence every time.

Larry30

September 28th, 2011
8:30 am

I made the suggestion on the braves website blog starting last year and was blasted by the “he’s the best catcher in baseball” crowd. The guy is a below average defensive catcher. Right now in the minds of the baseball world, he has immense value and we should see what could be had for him. Sometimes a GM has to make a courageous move to really improve a team. I don’t expect it to happen. I fully expect them to hold onto McCann until he has no trade value and we lose him to an AL team through free agency and get nothing. He looks like he has gained 15 pounds during the season. Perhaps he should be told to lay off the pre and post game buffets.

BravesFan

September 28th, 2011
8:33 am

Four possible outcomes tonight. Only one in fatal for the Braves. Braves loose, Cards win, End of Season. 1 out of 4 ain’t bad for the Braves. See you next year, except for Lowe, F Gonzales, and Chipper.

Phatty

September 28th, 2011
8:36 am

Hey Larry, do you think you could manage a posting without “Fruity” in it? You sound like a real moron!

Larry30

September 28th, 2011
8:36 am

Don’t get me started on the “we need another big bat” choir. We got that guy this year. Uggla hit 35 homers, probably 30 of them were solo shots, but he hits .230. Now those kind of numbers got Andruw Jones and Francouer run out of town. But for some reason everyone is going to give Uggla a pass. We need great defense, great pitching, and some guys who know when to choke up on the bat a little and put the ball in play when there are people in scoring position. Can DOB tell us, how many homers have the braves had this year and how many were solos. It seems like there is never anyone on base when they hit one. I’ve never seen anything like it before.

Jobu

September 28th, 2011
8:38 am

If you no help me now Jobu…..

old head bravo fan

September 28th, 2011
8:40 am

I was at the game last night ,dead crowd no real juice in the stands,the Phila fans were about 1/3 of the crowd and were louder at times than our fans.Give me a break.About the game with so much on the line how can you just show up and not be ready to play.The Bravos look like dead men walking the blank stares in thier faces and the stunned motions are so sad.I do not think they have one more game in them,our only real chance is that Philly rolls over like last year as to put us in a playoff game to burn up either teams pitchers for the playoffs.

VABravesFan

September 28th, 2011
8:42 am

Not sure how much Frank Wren and Co. plan to do at season’s end to make this team better next year, but I have a few thoughts on the situation:

-Trade Lowe as long as you don’t have to eat more than half his remaining salary.
-Try to sign C.J. Wilson from the Rangers.
-Drop Sherrill and Linebrink and sign a top-level bullpen arm.
-Consider a trade of Minor and Jurjenns for a well-established innings eater.
-Or consider a trade including trading either of the pitchers above (or Vizcaino instead), or maybe even 2 pitchers, along with Prado to get a power hitting allstar left fielder. (I love Prado as much as anyone, but I said the same thing about Infante.)

The expendables (in the right deal): Minor, Jurrjens, Vizcaino, Lowe, Sherrill, Linebrink, Gonzalez, Prado, Martinez, McLouth, Hinske, Wilson, Constanza, Diaz

If the Braves could sign Wilson, here’s what their rotation would look like:

1. Hudson
2. Wilson
3. Hanson
4. Beachy
5. Delgado

Their batting order wouldn’t look much different, but hopefully will be better with more power infused and another year under the belts of Freeman and Heyward.

Larry30

September 28th, 2011
8:42 am

And how did that Ryan Church trade come out. We traded a guy who always produced runs, played great defense and got nothing; Church is out of the game. This year Francouer has hit 20 homers, 87 RBI’s, 22 stolen bases, 47 doubles, 4 triples, and 171 hits. And I don’t want to hear “he did it for KC and in the AL.” He did it and he did it against major league pitching. It was another boneheaded move by Wren.

Larry

September 28th, 2011
8:42 am

Agree on the weight gain, but we’ve seen the same from Jurrjens and Hinske, and Chipper does nothing to keep his body in shape.

But then look at their leadersip role models, Cox and Fruity? Now go look at the physiques of playoff managers like Francona, Girardi, Gibson, Leyland, Roenicke or Maddon and tell me as a professional athlete whom do you most respect?

We won’t even get into an aptitude comparison!

Philly Billy

September 28th, 2011
8:45 am

Wow what a collapse , I hate the Cards because of 1964 and I’m 65 years old and can’t forget the heartbreak of that collapse of our team.I hope you make it to the playoffs so that Tony Larussa doesn’t. He is such a smug bast…at least your team is classy and not a bunch of jackasses like the Cards.For 1 night I say…GO BRAVES..ouch ,that hurt but I mean it.

BravesFan

September 28th, 2011
8:46 am

Leadership and conditioning are lacking for the Braves. I said it before. They need an on field leader. Chipper has never stepped up to take that role. They needed to send him for leadership training in the off season 10 years ago. Too Late now. Pitchers never broke down when Leo was the pitching coach. Bring him back NOW.

Larry30

September 28th, 2011
8:46 am

McLouth’s contract is over. They do have a team option, thank God, for something like $10 million. Instead they will have to pay him $1.25 million just to let him go. Another great contract by Wren. And who did we get for Javier Vasquez, speaking of inning eaters. I know we got Mike Dunn who we sent to Florida as part of the Uggla deal. We also got one of the young pitchers we’ve seen lately, Vizcaino?

Larry

September 28th, 2011
8:46 am

Phatty,

Gosh, with a name like this…nevermind!

BravesFan

September 28th, 2011
8:49 am

Chipper Jones HOF????? Biggest AB of the year and he grounds back to the pitcher for an inning ending DP. R U Kidding me.

Larry30

September 28th, 2011
8:49 am

Don’t talk about Chipper’s lack of training. Brian Jordan did that last year and is still having to bring Chipper his slippers after the game. With not injury to rehab from this off season, look for Chipper’s season next year to look a lot more like 2010 than 2011. The only training he’ll get this off season is climbing into and out of a deer stand. Oh….he’ll hit some in the cage.

BravesFan

September 28th, 2011
8:51 am

Biggest game of the year tonight and you can still get good seats on Stubhub for $2.00. Got to love the Atlanta fan base.

Larry

September 28th, 2011
8:52 am

BravesFan,

Good point in the lack of clubhouse leadership

In 1991 we had Pendleton and Bream for this. Justice and Smoltz was there too in the 90’s. We had Galaraga in the late 90’s

But, now we have no real clubhouse leaders. Chipper had the leadership skill of a door knob and Fruity the motivational skill of an earth worm.

old scout

September 28th, 2011
8:52 am

This Braves team has zero chance to win the wild card. After being in baseball more years than i care to admit, I can honestly say I have never seen a team more lacking in character. This month is the biggest choke in history and it is not due to injuries (all teams have injuries). The problem begins with the Manager who has no clue when it comes to improving the dynamic of this team, and confuses everybody with some of the astoundingly dumb moves he makes in game situations. They must be laughing in the other dugout. This starts with his keeping players in the line-up day in and day out who are simply not doing the job. Some names come to mind, such as McCann, Prado, Heyward, Lowe, Gonzalez. This conveys the message that results don’t really matter and it permeates the entire team. People point to JJ and Hanson being “hurt” as part of the reason for the choke. Please remember that both of these guys were getting hit really hard before the “injuries” were discovered. Actually, doctors have found nothing more than normal wear and tear on either of these guys. They just decided to get out of the pressure cooker and take the rest of the year off. Unfortunately, there will be a lot of carry-over from the big collapse. Don’t look for the Braves to contend for the play-offs for a number of years following this one. Just my opinion.

Larry30

September 28th, 2011
8:54 am

I was at the game last night, too, old head fan. What did we have to cheer about? We’ve got Lowe on the mound and he gives up a homer to the second batter of the game. You’re right, the crowd and the team were dead. There weren’t that many philly fans there last night, nowhere near 1/3 of the crowd. And the attendance was within about 4000 of selling out the oversized high school stadium up in philadelphia.

reckingball

September 28th, 2011
8:56 am

I was going to do some complaining, but that seems to be covered pretty well on this rag.
Heck, got some folks that think Constanza could have saved the season, some that want to trade McCann, even got some that put a number behind their name, so they can carry on a conversation and agree with themselves.
But I have to agree, the Braves are looking very pathetic.

BravesFan

September 28th, 2011
8:57 am

Old Scout, Remember the 86 Mets? They had the wild free spirts ( Strawberry, Gooden, Dykstra) and the leaders to keep them in line (Carter, Knight, Hernandez). That team had character and BTW the won the series.

Larry30

September 28th, 2011
8:58 am

I have never considered Chipper Jones to be a leader in any circle. But to anyone who did think he was the “clubhouse leader” of the Braves, I hope your eyes were opened when he threw the rookie pitchers under the bus earlier this week in an interview with mlb’s Mark Bowman. He is a prima donna, always has been, always will be.

Philly Billy

September 28th, 2011
8:59 am

Where is that rowsdauer guy? Boy did he disappear this week. Fair weather fans, now you want to trade half of your team and you still have a good shot at the playoffs..man up !………………….. GO BRAVES ,boy that just hurts.

Larry30

September 28th, 2011
9:00 am

I’m larry30, not larry. I didnt’ want to be confused with him. By the way, you left out the “w” in wrecking.

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