Gonzalez doubtful for Wednesday; Braves call up Pastornicky

Braves shortstop Alex Gonzalez is doubtful for Wednesday’s final game against the Phillies after he had to leave Tuesday night’s game with a strained right calf, the same injury which had kept him out of the final four games of the Braves last road trip.

The Braves have called up shortstop prospect Tyler Pastornicky from the Instructional League to give them another shortstop to back up the veteran Jack Wilson Wednesday in Gonzalez’s absence.

“It looks doubtful for (Gonzalez) tomorrow,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said after the game Tuesday night, characterizing it as more serious than just re-aggravating his sore calf. “But hopefully it’s not one of those things that’s a lingering thing.”

Gonzalez returned to the lineup on Monday against the Phillies and showed no ill effects, while going 1-for-3 with a double. But he left Tuesday night’s game after only two innings in the field. Gonzalez pinch hit Wilson for him in the bottom of the second inning.

“Just fielding his position,” said Gonzalez, when asked how his shortstop strained it. “It wasn’t one specific play or one specific move that he did that aggravated it.”

Gonzalez will be re-evaluated Wednesday. In the meantime, Pastornicky is expected to arrive from Orlando on Wednesday to give the Braves insurance behind Wilson at shortstop.

This is the first major-league call-up for Pastornicky, who was at Turner Field less than two weeks ago to be honored as the Double-A Mississippi Braves player of the year. Pastornicky, 21, finished an impressive minor league season in Triple-A Gwinnett before suffering a high ankle sprain in mid-August. Pastornicky, who’s healthy now, hit .365 (38-for-104) in 27 games for Gwinnett and .314 in 117 games combined between Mississippi and Gwinnett.

Gonzalez had been one of the Braves’ hottest hitters of late, going 15-for-33 (.455) with three home runs, five doubles and eight RBIs in his previous nine games entering Tuesday.

104 comments Add your comment

Scalp 'Em Braves

September 27th, 2011
9:48 pm

Unfortunately, this pitching staff which the Braves presently has (Huddy excepted) is not very disciplined. While they have “great stuff”, too often they leave a pitch or two up in the zone, over the plate or hang a breaking ball. It seems to have become epidemic over the past month. They need to bear down and concentrate on every pitch to prevent what happened tonight (multiple bombs). I very much want the Braves to make the playoffs. They have worked hard and played well over 4/5’s of a very long season. It is disheartening to see them struggle so much down the stretch, and let what seemed like a near insurmountable lead dwindle and slip away. Let’s keep the faith that they can take the Filthies tomorrow (Joe Blanton pitching – good pickin’s).

robdawg08

September 27th, 2011
9:56 pm

Dave, the Braves offense is pathetic. Please ask them (individually) why the offense has struggled for last 2 weeks.

Jim Hartwell

September 27th, 2011
9:57 pm

There is always next year!!!

kerryb

September 27th, 2011
9:59 pm

Typical, you got Chipper limping all over the place trying to suck it up and play and this guy pulls himself out of the line up for a strained calf. Hey Alex, there’s probably just 1 more game. You think you can suck it up one more time?

terrell

September 27th, 2011
10:12 pm

Wow! I see DLowe pitched a gem.

robdawg08

September 27th, 2011
10:23 pm

Rays turned a triple play.

The Abs Man

September 27th, 2011
10:29 pm

Granted, many thought this one month ago:
August 26th, 2011
9:24 pm

Fat Fredi “Fredo Corleone” Gonzalez is a disgrace and will ultimately kill any post-season chance. You read it here first.

Double Zero Eight

September 27th, 2011
10:32 pm

There is no way the Braves can beat the
Phillies in the post season anyway! Why
not put them out of their misery! They
are intimidated by the Phillies.
I do believe in miracles however, and
that is basically what it will take for
them to make the playoffs.

robdawg08

September 27th, 2011
10:35 pm

Cardinals up 8-6

robdawg08

September 27th, 2011
10:35 pm

Kwanesha

September 27th, 2011
10:39 pm

These guys – most of em anyway – are on multi million $ contracts and they get paid win or lose. Some of em clearly are just phoning it in. We care more about the Braves winning than they do.

Does it matter?

September 27th, 2011
10:46 pm

Fredi G was hand picked by Bobby Cox. Enough said.

Chillahill

September 27th, 2011
10:46 pm

Yahoo so i stand up for the Braves and the lay down for me! This is Braves country, really and where are these so called Braves. Yea id like to be part of the brave nation and fredi would be my beyatch. That way i would be part of the slapahos ! FG IS a manager and Lady Gaga is a Lady!

aj

September 27th, 2011
10:48 pm

Good teams come back from being down 5-0.
Very disappointed in the way this team performed
in the month of September. They were given every
opportunity to clinch the wild-card and have failed
miserably. How can so many things go wrong with
this team at the most critical time of the season.
Though they now will be tied with St. Louis, this
team shows NO signs of winning. The pitching,
with the exception of Hudson has been poor,
while the hitting is nowhere to be found.
Been a Braves’ fan from the 60’s and have
never been this disappointed.

Chillahill

September 27th, 2011
10:48 pm

And just saw it again the umpire sucked strikes a foot off the plate typical!

John A.

September 27th, 2011
10:48 pm

We all saw this coming. Why is it that a child of 2 years can reckonize a loser, but Fredi can’t. DLowe was once a pitcher, but now is only a shell of what once was.

See you all next spring, and hopefully Lowe and a few others will not be there. Who? Could it be Fredi, AGon, Linebrink, Parrish, and several more?

robdawg08

September 27th, 2011
10:52 pm

I saw McOut kick Uggla’s helmet off the bench right after he laid it down after striking out. Anybody else see that ?

It's me D Lowe

September 27th, 2011
11:05 pm

I’m ashamed of myself Atlanta fans. I’m really sorry.

It's me D Lowe

September 27th, 2011
11:07 pm

Well I didn’t get a lot of run support either.

Who Me?

September 27th, 2011
11:09 pm

Look, you either knock the door off the hinges to win the wild card or you fold your cards and go home.

This team has already packed its bags. Kind of sad with Huddy pitching but if it does go to a Thursday game to decide it, i don’t think the odds are with us to win 2. Sad but true….

It's me D Lowe

September 27th, 2011
11:09 pm

On second thought i’ve stunk this year.

REALLY ANGRY FAN!!!

September 27th, 2011
11:12 pm

FIRE FREDI!!!! FIRE FREDI!!!

REALLY ANGRY FAN!!!

September 27th, 2011
11:12 pm

FIRE FREDI!!!! FIRE FREDI!!!

Double Zero Eight

September 27th, 2011
11:13 pm

McDowell and Parrish need to go.
Fredi, if you are still around, bring
back Mazzone.

bostonbravo

September 27th, 2011
11:14 pm

Fredi strained a butt muscle…just sitting on bench…not even acting interested…what a load.

REALLY ANGRY FAN!!!

September 27th, 2011
11:16 pm

FIRE FREDI!@!!!!!! FREDI HAS TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

unbelievable

September 27th, 2011
11:16 pm

Cant believe the bulk of the blame in the comments seemed to be placed on the starters. The offense is atrocious. 5 runs in the last 40 innings for this team and we want to talk about the pitching. Halladay, Verlander, and Cliff Lee couldnt pick up a win with this bunch.

REALLY ANGRY FAN!!!

September 27th, 2011
11:18 pm

WHAT A JOKE! JOKE!!!!! JOKE!!!! 0 HEART!!!!

REALLY ANGRY FAN!!!

September 27th, 2011
11:19 pm

exactly why fredi has togo!

It's me D Lowe

September 27th, 2011
11:21 pm

I’ll tip my hat to Fredi for giving me another start.

Line Drive

September 27th, 2011
11:27 pm

Those of you who want changes can forget it….there is nobody in charge

Ken Stallings

September 27th, 2011
11:27 pm

Well, heck! It isn’t like there’s no tomorrow, right?

The Cards just struck for four run in the top of the 7th and hung another 3 spot in the top of the 8th and recovered from a 5-0 hole to lead 12-6 against the hapless Astros.

So, the wild card lead is officially now dead! It is a dead heat tie going to Wednesday night. So, there is no tomorrow! So, Alex either plays or gets the entire off season to recover from his calf injury.

Truly, at this point, I would prefer the Braves to make it official. This mascarade of a competent offense has been revealed in all its ugly glory. And contrary to what appeared to be the case to start the year, that epic fail cannot be hung on Dan Uggla, who recovered spectacularly and led the Braves to their seemingly insurmountable lead.

Then, despite Uggla returning to merely human levels, Chipper Jones hit a rough patch, Brian McCann seemed to totally lose it at the plate, Jason Heyward is a middling .225 hitter with rare outbursts of power and zero disciplined approach at the plate, earning his 8 slot hitting position.

The man who was expected to be the project was rookie Freddie Freeman who instead shows perhaps the finest plate discipline on the team right now. Martin Prado is tearing the cover off the ball but wins the hard luck hitting aware, but bless him, he’s squaring up the ball routinely. Michael Borne is doing well, but cannot do it all by himself!

Our once unhittable trio in the bullpen is finally showing the effects of the rugged overuse forced by the anemic offense. This is an outcome universally anticipated by baseball experts who warned the Braves early as May that if the innings pitched by O’Flaherty, Venters, and Kimbral did not ebb, they would be worn out by September. Yep! the truth is proven true again!

It would have been nice to add another flag pennant to the terrace fascade in left field, but the Braves did not earn this one. Having stumbled into it all, they would have been a feeble opponent to whomever they faced. Yes, it is possible that Saint Louis could hand an opportunity to the Braves by losing Wednesday night. And the only veteran pitcher, Tim Hudson, to get stronger in September is pitching. So, it is possible the Braves manage a road game in Saint Louis to make it final.

But, I’m thinking one nice early Christmas present from Houston was all the Braves could have expected. And yet, by losing the first two to the Phils, the Braves are looking the gift in the mouth. I think the best they can hope for is that trip to Saint Louis. Want to take bets the Braves can win that game with a relatively inexperienced starting pitcher on the mound facing that red hot lineup?

Oh by the way, before I can finish this, the Cards cranked another solo homer in the top of the ninth to now lead 13-6. The Cards are playing like they are hungry for post season. The Braves are playing like they’ve reserved their golfing tee times for Thursday.

Enjoy the golf, boys!

Rowsdower

September 27th, 2011
11:28 pm

Way to go Fruiti! Starting bLowe might as well have been a white flag. The Lastros tried like hell to bail you out, but alas, the worst team in baseball collapsed almost as bad as your Braves did.

Please resign once they put out this fire…

Billy

September 28th, 2011
12:11 am

Pastornicky has been called up

Billy

September 28th, 2011
12:12 am

do they plan to start him?

http://twitter.com/#!/Scouting…877621823078400
  

Fire Larry Parrish

YE19

September 28th, 2011
12:44 am

What’s corresponding roster move for PASTORNICKY? He’s not on the 40-man, is he?

DLowe

September 28th, 2011
1:03 am

I’m a failure.

joekill

September 28th, 2011
3:20 am

pastornicky is talented he will be our shortstop of the future now all you doubters just shutup and for those fredi haters out their u shutup to u people suck you call yourselves true fans ur just being babies just let the game play out be optimistic people we got huddie on the bump!
as for pastornicky he will be the likely replacement for gonzo he is talented and can hit and has an excellent arm as well as a great defender

Notso Fast

September 28th, 2011
5:23 am

Get the picture. It is a must win game. We aren’t worried about next week cause this is a must win game. Who do we use as our starter. DLowe is the choice. When was his last win? I can’t believe we went into a game like this with him. Oh well, the Braves do have some good young players for next yeat.

Darryl Blackberry

September 28th, 2011
5:37 am

I still love this team, and will support it.

That said, I sure hope that if the Braves are eliminated, they’ll learn a valuable lesson from it. Fredi Gonzalez slavishly managed the team according to Wren’s payroll this year. McLouth, Lowe, Heyward, and Proctor all got more playing time than they deserved, and now the Braves are paying for it (yes, pun intended).

Also: for God’s sake, let’s get a new coaching staff for next year. This one obviously doesn’t inspire much confidence in the players. After the McDowell incident in San Fran and Larry Parrish’s inability to help Uggla, move J-Hey closer to the plate, or compete with players’ relatives for hitting tips, something ought to be done…

Mack Perry

September 28th, 2011
5:43 am

Seriously will Derek Lowe keep all $16million that he swindled from the Braves this year? Can they give him $4million and ask him not to come back next year?

smithyred

September 28th, 2011
5:50 am

The Braves do not belong in the playoffs. If they get in they will go in the first round. Not hitting, not pitching like they should, just looks like they do not care.

Enjoy the off season guys.

Is DAN UGGLA the CANCER?

September 28th, 2011
5:50 am

Dan Uggla has never made the playoffs is this a coincidence or what? Freddi Gonzalez go look at his record at FLORIDA 5, 10, 15 game losing steaks….This guy should have never been given the head coaching position at Atlanta. FIRE FIRE FIRE IS THE WORD OF THE DAY….FIRE FRANK WREN FOR INCOMPETENCE, FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ FOR THE FOLD OF THE CENTURY…FIRE DAN UGGLA FOR BEING A FRAUD…FIRE CHIPPER FOR NO LEADERSHIP,,,,FIRE DEREK LOWE FOR BEING A FRAUD AND THIEF, FIRE BEACHY FOR ALWAYS STRIKING OUT 8 BUT GIVING UP 6 RUNS….FIRE JASON HEYWARD FOR THE UNDERACHIEVER AWARD OF THE YEAR….FIRE FRANK WREN AGAIN FOR SIGNING THIS GUY JACK WILSON R U KIDDING ME…..THIS GUY IS A COMPLETE LOSER…..AND FINALLY LAST BUT NOT LEAST FIRE LIBERTY MEDIA FOR JUST NOT GIVING A S____ AND HAVING NO INTEREST IN WINNING….AND TO FINISH IT ALL OFF FIRE DAVE O BRIEN NOT ONCE HAS THIS GUY NOR THE MEDIA IN THIS TOWN CALLED OUT THIS LOUSY BASEBALL TEAM

Is DAN UGGLA the CANCER?

September 28th, 2011
5:53 am

joekill give it up if you are still optimistic after watching this fraud of a baseball team in September then you should be a motivational speaker….wake up and smell the coffee idiot

urban redneck

September 28th, 2011
6:38 am

love my braves, but this sucks.

wow, the moron above me wants to fire everybody!! only folks left on the roster will be………i don’t know because i don’t feel like reading all that BS

MJ

September 28th, 2011
6:56 am

Have never seen a Braves team fall apart like this at the end of a season. Slumps happen, but this had been really painful to watch. Pitching had been carrying us, but looks like we went to the bullpen a few too many times. The faces in the dugout look beat & defeated – somebody has to light a fire under these guys. Fredi has to change things up again. Put Hinske in left and Constanza in right. Hinkse is always positive and contributes offense when given a chance. Heyward is done for the year. He looks lost at the plate. Send him to play winter ball someplace so he can regain his confidence. Constanza’s bat may have cooled, but he is still hitting .308. Beats Heywards ,220 all day long. Fredi – you have to shake things up today. It’s your last chance partner. Oh – for fans like me who like to look back & wonder – Gonzo is down at short – we gave away two all-star shortstops and got nothing in return. Furcal to the Dodgers for nothing, and Andrus to the Rangers for Texiera/nothing. Frenchy is batting .285, with 20 dingers and 87 RBI’s for KC, plus throwing runners out at first base. If we had any of those three players, we’d have already clinched the wild card. If we had Frenchy plus a strong ss, I’d really like our chances. Lack of offense has place too much pressure on our pitching. I’ll pull for the Braves win or lose – I’d like to to see them get the Wild Card – I just don’t think they have the confidence to do it right now. Fredi – time to step up an manage.

Unreal

September 28th, 2011
6:58 am

Fredi G. is about as bad a manager as I’ve ever seen.

Frank Shab PA

September 28th, 2011
7:25 am

for THE SECOND TIME

the HEADLINE SHOULD READ

THE CONRAD CURSE STRIKES (remember him last year)

that’s what I’m blaming it on

Choices

September 28th, 2011
7:44 am

8 1/2 games people. The braves dont deserve anything other then going home. Chipper wants to go hunting and so does Lowe. Unfortunately we have both of them for another year so look for the same next season. Lowe not getting out of the 1st inning and Chipper cry babying about his knees and pains. Both just need to retire. They hurt this team badly and its time to move on for younger and better players.

jimmya

September 28th, 2011
7:55 am

simple folks FIRE WREN its the same story with him in controll

jimmya

September 28th, 2011
7:57 am

the braves will learn after how many years

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TeheranTime

September 28th, 2011
8:14 am

The Braves just don’t have “it”. They have no spark. The starting pitching depth that was much heralded earlier in the season has evaporated. Injuries have played a part in the Braves woes on the mound. That is, except Derek Lowe. He is just horrible. He appears to be in the twilight of his career and just drawing a paycheck. Injuries, however, have had little to do with the Braves’ hitting. They have a team average slightly above the Mendoza line on the season. The small things which were a staple of the team great teams of the 90’s are absent from this team. Clutch hits are few and far between. Does this team have a glimmer of hope? Yes, a glimmer. As they move toward the future, Atlanta must begin to rid itself of some of the players who simply aren’t cutting it and either acquire players through trades or allow players on the farm to begin to mingle into the roster. Who would you rather see pitch at this point, Derek Lowe or Randall Delgado? Better yet, who would you rather see pitch at this point, Derek Lowe or anyone? It’s time for changes. I haven’t pressed the panic button. Fredi Gonzalez and his staff pressed that button all season.

Phillies Phan

September 28th, 2011
8:14 am

I’m sorry for all of you die hard fans that support this team, but it’s disgusting to see how many empty seats there are at Turner Field. Especially when they’re one game up (now tied) in the wildcard with two (now one) to play. Come on guys! Maybe light a fire under your guys’ butts! Hudson against Blanton should be an easy matchup. Go to the game!

Stillmyteam

September 28th, 2011
8:29 am

I bet that 3/4 of you haters have never stepped foot on a baseball diamond or better yet, accomplished anything athletically. Your probably just upset because baseball is almost over and you have nothing to look forward to but sitting in your parents basement and playing video games.This team is in a slump. They aren’t quitters. They are professionals. So, quit bashing, quit hiding behind your computer screen. We all know you wouldn’t say these things to these players face to face. You wouldn’t bash Fredi to his face.

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Bob from Accounttemps

September 28th, 2011
8:42 am

@ Phillies Phan — I want to call you a name, but all I can think of is, “you’re right.” The tickets are sold, but the butts just ain’t in the seats. Even for the poorly performing Braves, it would be nice to support the team in their struggle to the post.

DamntheButcher

September 28th, 2011
8:51 am

Remember back in the spring everybody was saying that the Braves had too much pitching. What are they going to do with all that pitching?

stew

September 28th, 2011
9:14 am

I’ll never say die. Go for broke. We’re still the best team. Give it our best shot.

PMC

September 28th, 2011
9:16 am

Does it matter if it’s a lingering thing when you get efforts like they pulled out last night?

I wonder if they plan to field 3 outfielders that can hit next year or if they plan to leave the gaping hole in Right again. They only got a CF about 2 months ago and LF is occupied by a backup infielder.

The pitching this team has is fools gold. Jurrjens and Hanson are too fragile to make it through any season. Lowe is toast. The young kids were fine, but seriously pitching isn’t the problem.

Year after year, this organization fails miserably to field 8 players that can hit. They cannot produce hitters in the entire organization. Every player that can hit, does so because of his father, not any of the coaches in this organization.

Jason Heyward is a disaster like the right field disaster before him.

PMC

September 28th, 2011
9:20 am

The butts in the seats thing will never ever happen in this town until they are truely interesitng.

People do not care enough about pro sports here to spend good money to watch average to bad teams. In game experience in Atlanta will always be more about bringing some kid to see his first baseball game than being passionate about the sport. This city simply does not care unless you give them a good reason to care. There hasn’t really been a good reason to watch anything since 1995 and even that year rang hollow because of the strike. It hasn’t been fun since about 1991.

PMC

September 28th, 2011
9:21 am

Also, this organization will laugh this off like they always do, not make a single change then go to post next year with the same crap roster expecting it to be different the 3rd time out.

It won’t be any different next year than it has been this year… and they probably win tonight with Huddy on the mound.

PMC

September 28th, 2011
9:23 am

Cards roster was down 5 in the 4th and came back to win after scoring 13 runs. That’s a month of production for this group.

DamntheButcher

September 28th, 2011
9:24 am

The Meida company that owns the Braves needs to sell as soon as their tax loophole expires. I think that may be at the end of this year. Maybe somebody will buy the Braves(and mr Cathy of the Chik Fil A Company) would probably be a great owner and is someone who grew up in Atlanta and may actually care. Can we start a push for Mr Cathy to spend some of his Billions and by the Braves????

2 hot scott

September 28th, 2011
9:31 am

When is the last time you saw this team get excited about anything? In my opinion there’s something going on within the clubhouse, which would have never happened under Bobby Cox. I’m not blaming Fredi or the coaching staff, because the players are making millions and are suppose to be professionals. Chipper’s comment that “He’s the manager”, when he got put in the 2 hole during the New York series have stuck with me, because he would have never made that kind of public comment when Cox was the manager. After last night’s game, Freddie Freeman is the one who got quoted on the MLB network about his confidence in Tim Hudson for today’s game. To me, this screams a problem in the clubhouse. Chipper, Mac, Uggla or Prado should have been the one’s stepping forward as the spokeman for the team, not the 22 year old rookie. Good luck today guys…

bravo bravos

September 28th, 2011
9:35 am

Sad to see the Braves so lost on the field and in the dugout. Hopefully Huddy can do what he is capable of doing to put a stop to the losing. No looking at the scoreboard tonight to see what’s up with the Cardinals because nothing matters except this game. Maybe Erniie Johnson can help them out from beyond the grave. We need some angels in the outfield, the infield, the pitcher’s mound, the bullpen, at the plate, behind the plate, the dugout, the stands, even the pressbox and the 755 club. Light a fire under the Chick-fil-a cow’s butt threatening him with “eat mor’ beef.” Maybe the ghosts of ‘57 will show up and turn this field of fears and nightmares to a field of dreams realized. Or maybe we could get Pascal Perez to drive the Phillies on their team bus around 285. For gawd’s sake boys, it’s a game. Loosen up and just have some fun.

2 hot scott

September 28th, 2011
9:41 am

P.S. If we don’t make the playoffs, I believe Lowe and Gonzo have played their last games as Atlanta Braves. The Braves are going to unload Lowe this off season, and will pay a large portion of his salary next season, so to balance the books some other players will have to go.

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Tami

September 28th, 2011
10:17 am

OK…some of you are calling for Fredi to be fired. It’s not all Fredi’s fault. And you can’t fire a manager whose team has had a winning season, but suffered a monumentally bad September. Not in his first season, anyway. The facts are pretty simple: If your team doesn’t hit with RISP, your team will lose — no matter how “good” the pitchers are. If RISP had not been a factor down the stretch, the Braves would have already clinched the Wild Card. The other factor is Lowe. If the team keeps him after the 2011 season, he needs to go to the bullpen. His starting days — IMHO — are over. I’m sure it was hard enough for the team to build some positive momentum going into last night’s game, but they could knowing they usually can beat Oswalt. Getting into a horribly steep deficit against the best team in the league (perhaps even the Majors) so quickly can take the air out of just about any team. I will, as usual, be rooting on the Braves & Astros today as I’ve never been a fair-weather fan. But, I haven’t set my expectations too high about today. Should the Braves & Astros win today, yes. I’ll be ecstatic. But, my expectations will remain lower than usual during the NLDS – should the Braves get there – until I know for sure which Braves team shows up to play the Brewers.

Jay Dubu

September 28th, 2011
10:21 am

If the Braves make the playoffs, Fredi is going to give Lowe a start.

Lowe is really spent for thsi year. The offseason will do him well. He needs to recover, so that next year, he’ll have that contract year to get him another 1 – 2 year contract somewhere as “an innings eater”. I think I recall hearing that term when the Braves signed him.

the truth...

September 28th, 2011
10:26 am

Back at the trading deadline this is what my take was……….how does it look now?

Trade for Bourn AND Pence…..

Give them Heyward AND Minor for Pence
And
A Package of prospects for Bourn….

Even if we had to add another sweetener it would have been worth it….

Pence would be leading the team in BA and everything else…..
Philly WOULD NOT have him….

Bourn would be #2 in BA…..

We could have given them Fredi also…..

the truth...

September 28th, 2011
10:27 am

Several other bloggers proposed trading JJ AND Hanson….

How does that look now Frankie Wren??????

Jay Dubu

September 28th, 2011
10:42 am

The Braves just don’t have the talent to compete against the Phillies. Philly is a better constructed team, talent wise… better starters, good bullpen, and more run producers.

They also have players that play with an edge, or a little attitude. That intangiable that none of the Braves’ players have.

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The Twitter Guy

September 28th, 2011
10:53 am

robdawg08, DOB doesn’t ask the hard hitting questions. What DOB does is break down scenarios such as “If the Braves go 2-439, the Cardinals will have to go 439-2 to catch them”..not realizing this organization is choke prone. This is nothing new. Choke jobs in 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2003….pattern has been present for 2 decades.

McDawg

September 28th, 2011
11:07 am

is the manager a potted plant????

this team quit a month ago

Sonny Jackson

September 28th, 2011
11:08 am

Tami, best comments of the day… I just wish they would show some fire! Don’t wait for something to happen, make it happen!

ijudgenot

September 28th, 2011
11:10 am

the truth,
“Pence would be leading the team in BA and everything else…..
Philly WOULD NOT have him….”

Pence would not be hitting what he is now if he was in Atlanta. He is on a team of players that can and are hitting. In other words he is one of many and he can do his thing as “a part” of the team as opposed to being the “savior” of an undiciplined bad hitting team. Remember when Bourn got to Atlanta he was 2nd in hitting behind Reyes. He is nowhere near the top now because he has taken on the undiciplined attitude of this team. How many strikeouts has he had this month?

Daryl

September 28th, 2011
11:27 am

I think the failure is the team and the mindset of leadership. i do feel they needed to do something with the hitting coach after the last few years but to go with someone who is a career .263 hitter is mind boggling. What about a Tony Gwynn or George Brett as a replacement. Someone who has an approached to use the entire field instead of always pulling the ball. I know there batters have all regressed statistically and Parrish has got to go. If not replace Gonzalez. It makes you sick to watch!

Jay Dubu

September 28th, 2011
11:32 am

For next year, the bullpen will need to be strengthened.

Don’t know what Moylan will be able to provide, but they will need to replace Sherrill and Linebrink with more reliable pitchers. They can not afford to carry specialist relief pitchers. They need guys that can get hitters out, regardless of which side of the plate they hit from.

Medlen – R
Venters – L
O’Flaherty – L
Kimbrel – R
Martinez – R
Unknown – L
Unknown – R

Starters need to be expected to pitch 7 innings on a regular bases. Fredi currently takes a guy out once the 5th inning rolls around, thus putting more innings on the bullpen. Can’t have Kimbrel and Venters with the high appearance rate that they have this season.

A decision will have to be made on Lowe. Unless there’s something wrong physically with him, that will heal during the offseason, they can not afford to have another year of what he gave them this year.

Bench needs to be stronger.

The Braves need better offensive players. As pointed out yesterday, they can not afford to leave guys at 3rd with one or no outs at the rate they did this season. They have not had a 100 rbi player since 2007.

Jay Dubu

September 28th, 2011
11:38 am

Philly came into the season as the team to beat for the title, not just in the NL, but in all of baseball. So the performance that the Braves have shown the past two games is not that alarming.

What is eye-catching, is how they performed against the Marlins, Mets, and Nats the last 2 weeks.

They played poorly against teams that are at or below their talent level. No excuse for that.

The hitting has stunk all season, and management did nothing to correct, or “adjust” it.

tdc

September 28th, 2011
12:03 pm

kerryb

September 27th, 2011
9:59 pm
Typical, you got Chipper limping all over the place trying to suck it up and play and this guy pulls himself out of the line up for a strained calf. Hey Alex, there’s probably just 1 more game. You think you can suck it up one more time?

Why would you want a SS playing with a strained calf? It was Chipper and his lack of range that allowed the go ahead run to get on base in game 1. Let’s not forget the double play he grounded into to end that game.

STRETCH

September 28th, 2011
12:10 pm

Why does anyone want to see this team in the playoffs? The only people wanting this should be the Phillies. Cause right now, the Cards are gonna be tough, no matter who they face.

The Braves caught some bad breaks at the end of the season when the pitching went down with injuries, these things happen, but the “wrong” pitchers went down!

And as far as the Braves, this team sucks when it comes to hitting the ball, working the count or just plain putting the ball in play! I have been watching all the current teams in the playoff race this month anc they all have something the Braves dont have, even though the might be slumping, there is always one of two guys carrying each team.

The Braves lineup is soft from top to bottom. Just watching the Phillies come up against Braves relievers last night and get hits while watching the Braves do nothing against the Phils relievers made it evident to me, that Wren and company must make dramatic changes this off season.

Its always good to have pitching, but you have to be able to score some runs as well. That has pretty much been the undoing of the Braves this season and past seasons. But im still a fan, just not a happy one. Just ready to accept the fact that these guys arent making the post season this year.

Im already looking forward to next season.

tdc

September 28th, 2011
12:17 pm

Am I the only one hoping that Fredi Gonzalez pull a Bobby Petrino and leave town before tonights game?

jimmya

September 28th, 2011
12:36 pm

i just want wren fired

smalltownbravesfan

September 28th, 2011
12:48 pm

I hope the Braves lose tonight and Cardinals win. Then Frddie G fired immediately after the game. Lowe will be released and then several players will be traded and they can start over and build a tem for 2014 maybe 2015.

Tom G

September 28th, 2011
12:55 pm

smalltownbravefan – Sorry to bust your bubble, but Lowe is owed $15 million for next season, no way can he be released. Best option would be to trade him for 7 million and eat the rest? No way ownership will do that though!

Retired Solider

September 28th, 2011
1:40 pm

AG should ashamed of himself. A broken leg, heart attack, stroke, then you miss a game at this point. Otherwise man up and play. Unreal.

Derek Lowe.......WTF

September 28th, 2011
1:49 pm

read the title of the article and was hoping it was the manager who was getting fired……damn the bad luck!

bowman

September 28th, 2011
2:11 pm

Darn it. The AJC link blurb read, “Gonzalez out.” I was hoping it meant gone. Not coming back. To call him the team’s hottest hitter in September overlooks two things: 1. His lack of production over the entire season and 2) Only because the rest of the team has sucked in September could Gonzalez be considered “hot”.

bostonbravo

September 28th, 2011
2:23 pm

“Gonzalez Out”…damn..thought you meant Fredi the freeloader.

E-6

September 28th, 2011
2:42 pm

Many of us will settle for adios to just the Gonzalez who wears a 2 on his back. Would it not be great to grab a difference maker for that position – although it could be argued that AGon was a difference maker by not running out ground balls and choking in the clutch time after time. Failing a Rollins, Reyes or other stud in the off season I’m sure we could get by with Wilson and a learning Pastornicky.

ijudgenot

September 28th, 2011
2:43 pm

Tom G

September 28th, 2011
12:55 pm
smalltownbravefan – “Sorry to bust your bubble, but Lowe is owed $15 million for next season, no way can he be released. Best option would be to trade him for 7 million and eat the rest? No way ownership will do that though!”

Yea, there were reports that the Tigers were interested in Lowe before the trade deadline because he was a Michigan native and could possibly help them in their playoff run. if they don’t win World Series they still may be interested in getting him for $7 mil salary and Braves pay the rest and giving Braves a low minor league prospect in rerturn.

It's out of here.....

September 28th, 2011
2:45 pm

Only hope is HUDDY on 1 days rest.

I tend to think we are DONE and DEAD. A season of “what ifs” without a doubt.

Doug

September 28th, 2011
2:49 pm

I think the fans should do a Braves imitiation tonight and not show up at the stadium. Let them play to the deafening silence we heard all year long from their bats. This season has been too agonizing to even contemplate next year. Let’s hope at least one Gonzalez is gone next year (preferablly the one who occupies the SS position). The only good that has come out of this year is that we acquired a centerfielder and may have found a first baseman (of course, I thought we had found a right fielder at the end of last year). I had to laugh the other night when the announcers said “in the playoffs even a walk is a rally”. That’s been true of the Braves since early April. I can’t think of a worse job than having to put on a happy face for 162 games announcing for this band of underachievers. It’s going to be a long time before this feeling goes away.

t-plunk

September 28th, 2011
2:58 pm

please let the kid start- he’s a hitter!

Ares

September 28th, 2011
3:13 pm

Plain & simple…..too many injuries. Always next year and (after a great career) Chipper needs to go huntin’. Braves will need an off-season trade for a LF or 3rd basemen. All the other tools are in place. I think Freeman was the only player in the starting nine that went pretty much injury free.

steve

September 28th, 2011
3:39 pm

Our rookie pitchers have pitched great for the most part, sometimes I mthink they give up runs because the wrong pitch is called plus we try way too much to sneak inside pitches by a batter with an o and 2 count, the Phillies sat all over Lowes changeup last night, everytime we get 2 or 3 runners on our hitters clam up and either strike out or pop up failing to advance the runners, this season has gone down the po-p shoot and no time to fix it, do not like what I have seen in our new mgr. because he sits and hopes instead of changing things up , does not understand how to make a counter move or just too stubborn to try.

Tommy

September 28th, 2011
3:42 pm

The Braves pride themselves on ‘never getting too up or down”

That’s the problem. . . when things get tough, they lack the fire to step up.

It starts in the front office. Every year it’s the same thing. We get a team with some good base talent, looks pretty interesting, and then the front office never makes the big move to get them over the top. During the ’90s, we came up short because we always lacked one hitter and lost about 20,000 playoff games 3-2. Other than getting McGriff in ‘93 and Devereaux in ‘95, Scheurholz never made a substantial deadline move for a hitter. Not surprising that in those two years they came back from 10 back one time and won the whole thing the other.

Wren prided himself on getting Bourn without trading a young pitcher. Well, why not have packaged off one of the young arms for another bat? Hanson, Jurrjens, Vizcaino, Minor, Teheran and Delgado. Six young pitchers, and it’s obvious that Hudson still has a couple good years left. Why do we need seven starters, not including Medlen, and when you know you’re stuck with Lowe for one more year? By the time we’ll really need all four, in 2013, another arm will be ready. The Braves front office is like the fantasy player that never wants to trade value for value, hoping instead to luck out.

True, Hanson and Jurrjens got hurt late, but those things happen, and if Wren had dealt one of the young arms at the deadline for Upton or Quentin, we may not be in this mess.

Plus, given this organization’s habit of overhyping young players (see Heyward, Jason, and Francouer, Jeff for exhibits 1 and 1A), it’s probably best to send these guys off somewhere else.

Each the Braves tell us they’re building for the big payoff next year. I’m starting to think they’ve been guessing all along.

And lastly, where have Ross and Hinske been during the last week? If you’re going to go down, at least go down with guys who play like they care.

Disappointed

September 28th, 2011
4:21 pm

Well there goes our last bat. The three hundred Trojans had a better shot at winning @ Thermopylae than the Braves do tonight!

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