Hanson not an option for Wednesday or Division Series

Tommy Hanson did not throw a bullpen as planned on Monday because he is still experiencing some lingering soreness in his scapula, behind his troublesome pitching shoulder.

So the Braves will ditch any plans to pitch Hanson in the final regular season game on Wednesday if they have managed to clinch a wildcard spot by then. And at this point, Hanson is doubtful to pitch in a potential Division Series game for the Braves.

Jair Jurrjens, on the other hand, still has a chance. He is scheduled to make a second start in the Instructional League in Florida on Thursday, going 70 pitches or four or five innings. If all goes well, the Braves might consider him for a potential Game 3 or 4 start on Tuesday or Wednesday, if they make the Division Series.

“He feels pretty good,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said.

Jurrjens threw 44 pitches in an Instructional League game on Saturday and came away encouraged about his right knee. It was the first time he’d pitched in a game of any kind since Aug. 30 against Washington. He’s been out since with a bone bruise in his surgically-repaired right knee.

Tim Hudson is scheduled to pitch on Wednesday against the Phillies. If the Braves have clinched by then, Gonzalez said they’d cover that game with relievers.

Hanson hasn’t pitched in a game since Aug. 6 but had begun to build up his arm strength again. He was pulled after two innings of a planned three-inning start in the Instructional League on Friday. He came down with the flu over the weekend and then had the soreness in the back of his shoulder pop up again Monday.

The Braves think it could be just typical soreness like pitchers feel in spring training. So Hanson will stay in Florida and try to work his way back with the idea that he might be used in later rounds in the playoffs, if the Braves advance.

“It very well could be typical spring training soreness where you’re getting geared back up and you’re using muscles you haven’t used in a while,” Braves general manager Frank Wren said. “So we’re just letting it clear itself back up we progress him.”

Hanson has been out with shoulder soreness from a small sub-surface tear in his rotator cuff, which the Braves have been assured won’t require surgery.

24 comments Add your comment

ChopAttack

September 26th, 2011
6:27 pm

Rotator cuff issues are career killers. The question isn’t whether Hanson pitches in October, does he ever pitch well again?

Jon S

September 26th, 2011
6:36 pm

Pitchers are on pitch counts….regularly throw less than 200 innings per year and yet have what appears to be twice the injuries of pitchers of the 80’s and 90’s. The worse thing to ever happen to modern pitchers is the advent of the strength and conditioning coach. Baseball players are just not meant to have the muscular makeup of Mr. Universe

Chad

September 26th, 2011
6:40 pm

Wednesday or Division Series or next year?

CajunStorm

September 26th, 2011
6:43 pm

Now…with the violent delivery Hanson has did we really think he wasn’t going to hsve issues eventually? That’s why I have always said that jurrjens was the 1 of the 2 we should keep. but hell, i don’t know if he just can’t stay healthy or stay in shape. With our young guns coming up I wouldn’t be surprised if TH or JJ is traded in the middle of next year when they show they are back healthy.

But dang, if they are back healthy and dealing how do you trade young talent like that? Ol FW has good problems up there I guess.

Bobby Bobby

September 26th, 2011
6:56 pm

See Peter Moylen. That is Hansen’s future. He has not cost Braves much money and all of our Big 4 young guys have the potential to be better pitchers. Future looks great!

ray

September 26th, 2011
6:59 pm

that’s right-shoulders are more problematic than elbows. I was surprised that Dr Andrews said it was normal for a guy Hanson’s age.
by Wed, though, he’ll have months to recover. the question is whether he will have recurring issues in a few months. divison playoffs will be moot very soon.
with 1 run in last 2 games, there are other non-medical problems that also need to be addressed.

LuisG

September 26th, 2011
7:16 pm

I would like to see Linebrink starting the regular season finale, and probably going 5 innings. That would be great!

smallmouth6

September 26th, 2011
10:16 pm

We need durable pitchers. Injury prone ones are a dime a dozen, or in major league parlance—5 million a dozen.

bravesfanbob

September 27th, 2011
12:20 am

When we had Camp Leo, we had very few injuries to our starters. Roger is a very knowledgeable pitching coach, and has done a fine job. But the Braves should invite Leo back every Feburary to run Camp Leo, and get these guys in shape to pitch 225 innings, and 7-8 innings a start.

bravesfanbob

September 27th, 2011
12:24 am

These injuries to all these pitchers all over baseball also makes you wonder how many did PED’s at the earliest part of their careers, and how it’s causing them to break down now. (Look at Mike Hampton!) Not saying all, but it’s definitely part of the problem.

wayn-o

September 27th, 2011
1:18 am

we have an over used bullpen and fredi plans on using them for the last day. wow good decision. It’s obvious what 2 guys made this team win, JJ & Hanson. Maybe next year one will pitch the 1st half & the other the 2nd half of the season, that way we get a full years worth. If not, get rid of them while they still have some upside.

mikeinla

September 27th, 2011
3:15 am

wayn-o. There’s some guys who haven’t gotten much work in, and two that might be in the playoff bullpen if they get there- Sherill and Medlen. Those would be the guys pitching along with guys who probably wouldn’t be on the playoff roster. Teheran, Vizcaino, Varvaro, Linebrink. If the Braves got in the playoffs and Sherill, Jurrjens, and Medlen were well enough to pitch I would say that the pitching would be: Hudson, Beachy, Jurrjens, Delgado, Kimbrel, Venters, Oflaherty, Medlen, Martinez, Sherill, and either lowe or varvaro. 11 pitchers and 5 outfielders. Personally I think Vizcaino and Teheran should be on there but we haven’t seen much of them lately and Lowe will probably get the veteran “big game pitcher” nod.

wright_714

September 27th, 2011
8:11 am

I have said this before…..Tommy Hanson being in the playoff rotation is the x-factor. When he was going good, the Braves were also…Hope they can salvage this series and not back into to the playoffs, or be outside looking in.

afan

September 27th, 2011
8:47 am

does anyone really see the braves winning a game against the phillies?
if we make the playoffs it will be cause the cardinals couldnt pull out the wins.

Don

September 27th, 2011
8:56 am

How does anyone expect the Braves to be competitive when almost every Starting Pitcher they have becomes injured. McDowell has been the Pitching Coach for what 6 years. During that time, how many different Starting Pitchers have the Braves had — 15 or so? How many of those (who have pitched any length of time for him) has NOT BEEN INJURED. IS IT NONE,OR ONE, OR TWO — HOW MANY. This year they have the three young pitchers (who should have formed the core of a great pitching staff for years to come) — JJ, Hanson, and Medlin – all down. If you are a Braves Starting Pitcher for McDowell, it basicaly as not been a question of IF YOU WILL BE INJURED BUT RATHER WHEN YOU WILL BE INJURED. This is absurd. Be it his conditioning program or the way he handles pitchers, or just bad luck – it is long past due for a change. There was never anything close to this under Leo. EVERY YEAR HASN’T IT BEEN TWO OR THREE STARTERS DOWN WITH INJURIES – ONE YEAR WASN’T IT FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE????

dap01

September 27th, 2011
9:10 am

If Hanson can ever get healthy, he should be traded.

JaneFonda

September 27th, 2011
9:19 am

DOB Can you start a petition to bring Leo? If Leo won’t come back can we convince MadDog to take over?

Outside Robber

September 27th, 2011
9:27 am

Hanson and the rest of the team will soon have all winter to recover. Hopefully later rather than sooner but the way they’re limping toward the finish line for the regular season, it looks like ’sooner’..

Charles

September 27th, 2011
12:01 pm

I am sympathetic to pitching injuries, but Hanson spends too much time at the Pony drinking like a fish — the highly senstive rehabiltation and mechanics required to be a successful pitcher at this level do not work with regular bouts of shots at the Pink Pony and other local watering holes. He may have literally shot down his career. Hopefully, that’s not the case and when he is healthy he will take better care of himself.

Playoffs?

September 27th, 2011
12:15 pm

LOWE SHOULD BE LET GO. BIG TIME SUCK ARTIST.

Randal Patrick McMurphy

September 27th, 2011
12:31 pm

Roll on from here on w/ The Kidz… jettison Hanson, Jurrjens & Lowe – get what they can for them to aide in rebuilding the big club or restocking the minor league system w/ more prospects. Lowe goes, for obvious reasons (he truly SUX); Jurrjens is now ‘expendable’ due to the plethora of young arms; and Hanson… really good pitcher when he’s “on”, but physically a meltdown waiting to happen (due to his ’style’ of pitching). They could get some nice returns on these 3 guys… but this is all IMHO…

Of course, your actual mileage may vary… ;-)

Anon21

September 27th, 2011
12:42 pm

What Division Series? Are we trading him to St. Louis or something?

Milton Maven

September 27th, 2011
2:49 pm

Hey Scott B., guess what? Your high priced future free agent pitching clients aren’t worth much when they are nowhere to be seen when a team needs them. Guess that’s going to cost big bucks so you might want to try to cut a deal early before they both suffer from “Mike Hamptonitis”.

William Frey

September 28th, 2011
12:13 pm

Hanson pitches with what might be called a “short-arm” delivery, much like the way a catcher throws.
Tommy Green used to have a similar delivery, and he hurt his arm fairly early in his career. You can throw a great curve-ball that way, but the downside is that you are prone to arm injury, because there is such an extreme elbow-snap in the delivery. I can’t think of one pitcher who threw like that and had a long career.

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