Braves haven’t ruled out Jurrjens for division series

WASHINGTON – Jair Jurrjens returning for a potential first-round playoff series still seemed unlikely, but Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez left open the possibility Sunday.

Jurrjens threw 44 pitches in three innings of an Instructional League game Saturday in Florida, his first time pitching in a game of any sort since an Aug. 30 start against Washington.

“He did OK,” Gonzalez said Sunday. “His velocity was up. Not up, but where it’s supposed to be. He was using his legs.”

Given the depleted state of the Braves pitching staff, “OK” just might be enough.

Jurrjens has been sidelined with a bone bruise in his right knee, the knee that kept him out of the 2010 postseason when he had a meniscus tear and arthroscopic surgery.

The bone bruise developed this summer and prevented him from pushing off the mound properly. Jurrjens is 1-3 with a 5.88 ERA in seven starts since the break, after going 12-3 with a 1.87 ERA before the break and making the All-Star team.

The right-hander was fitted for a custom knee brace this month and spent a couple of weeks doing specialized drills prescribed by Dr. Richard Steadman, the renowned orthopedist and “knee man” who examined Jurrjens in Vail, Colo.

Jurrjens said last week after two bullpen sessions that the knee felt stronger and more sound, and that pitching with the brave had helped restore his confidence.

Desperate times, desperate measures

Last week Gonzalez said it was doubtful that Jurrjens could make it back, at least not for the first round of the postseason. He also said several times that he wouldn’t start Jurrjens or fellow rehabbing pitcher Tommy Hanson (shoulder) in the postseason without first having them start a regular-season game to show they’re ready.

Desperate times sometimes call for desperate measures. These are such times for the Braves.

Hanson could start the season finale Wednesday against Philadelphia, but only if his shoulder felt good after a Sunday bullpen session and only if the Braves have clinched the wild card before Wednesday.

If they have not, then Tim Hudson would start that game on his regular rotation turn.

In an Instructional League start Thursday, Hanson had some soreness in the scapula of his troublesome pitching shoulder and was pulled as precautionary measure after throwing 41 pitches in two innings.

The right-hander is recovering from a subsurface rotator-cuff tear, and Thursday was his first time in any game since an Aug. 6 start for the Braves. He is 1-3 with an 8.10 ERA in five starts since the All-Star break, after going 10-4 with a 2.77 ERA before the break.

So what’s next for Jurrjens?

“He will throw a side [bullpen session in a couple of days], then we’ll decide whether to throw another game in Instructional League or see where we’re at,” Gonzalez said.

After first saying that both Hanson and Jurrjens could be available for Wednesday’s season finale, Gonzalez then said Jurrjens was unlikely to pitch in that game because he’d be on short rest (three days).

Gonzalez said the Braves weren’t considering Jurrjens for a postseason bullpen role.

110 comments Add your comment

Linebrinks Security

September 25th, 2011
3:54 pm

I thought Fredi himself said that in order to make a post season start he’d have to get a start before the regular season ends?

ExBraves Fan

September 25th, 2011
3:56 pm

Playoff??? Stinking playoffs? What playoffs? The stinking Braves could not hit a 12 year old today. The Nat’s pitcher couldn’t a day over 12. Look at that face. Bases loaded by the BOTTOM of the order and the sorry 1-2-3 hitters couldn’t do crap. The Braves need to just give up now and let the Cardinals have it so they do not have to suffer a 3-0 sweep in the stinking playoffs. This is the sorriest team that I have seen since the late 80s. The manager stinks. For all you Bobby haters, you wanted a different manager and you GOT THIS bum. Couldn’t win in Florida and now blows it here. Enjoy the winter cause this is what you will have next year. Same bunch of bums.

UGAFAN13

September 25th, 2011
3:58 pm

They better start ruling on RISP and offense. They have been real stinkers lately and let’s be honest. At this moment they are not a play off caliber team. This has been a mounumental collaspe. We can’t even win a sereis against sub .500 teams. Pitiful, just pitiful!

Kentavo

September 25th, 2011
4:04 pm

Braves haven’t ruled out Jurrjens for division series – that’s funny – bc I’ve ruled the Braves out for the division series.

Logan

September 25th, 2011
4:09 pm

The Braves haven’t ruled out Jurrgens for the post season but mathematics certainly will.

8ball

September 25th, 2011
4:10 pm

Medlin is back 3up and 3 down..wish someone would show him how to wear his hat..looks like a nerd.
looks like another lose unless the bats come alive….

Henry Aaron's Ghost

September 25th, 2011
4:11 pm

All I can say is, is that this is a sad time for the Braves FANS. They pay good money to go to games and this is the product they get. The Braves fans now know what it is like to be a Pirates, Astros, Royals, Mariners, A’s, Cubs fan. You get sorry leadership from the top. Management stinks. Owners stink. Only in it for the profit and screw the fans with high ticket, high parking, high drink and food prices. I will not go to another Braves game and put a dime in their pockets as long as this mob owns the team. I will not give them a dime. Maybe someday before this earth burns up, someone will buy this team and put some money in it. Otherwise, this is the kind of stink the Braves are and will remain. All these years they had divisional winning teams, and they had one stinking WS win. Blew the 2-0 lead over the Yankess back in the 90s. Now, they are losing in royal fashion. Stinking Braves stink! PERIOD!

MR

September 25th, 2011
4:14 pm

This team does not deserve the playoffs. Frank “I think I’ll Pass” Wren does not deserve to be the GM (way to go Frank, you actually thought we had ENOUGH hitting at the July trading deadline?! How about getting it right for once. Or better yet how about resigning please. You’re bad. Real bad.) This team needs to clean house from the faceless ownership down to the hitting (or lack thereof) coach. Scoring runs does matter Frank. Do your research next time, poser.

Legend of Len Barker

September 25th, 2011
4:17 pm

What division series?

I’m trying to determine a proper song for DOB to use to sum up our season when it shortly ends and have decided it’s T. Rex’s “Monolith.”

Tampa Gator

September 25th, 2011
4:18 pm

Obviously, it would be best for the Braves to not make the playoffs at this point. 3 and out for sure with the way this team is hitting and pitching. The Cardinals would make a much better NL representative in the playoffs. And I am a huge Braves fan….but this is current reality. The Braves lack a consistent power bat in the middle of the order to be considered a serious contender for anything….except one of the biggest meltdowns in baseball history…..losing a 9-1/2 game lead in the last month and one half of the season. RIght up there with the Cubs meltdown in 1969.

Freddy Gonzalez……not a very good, strategic manager. But that would be stating another obvious.

Tampa Gator

September 25th, 2011
4:22 pm

Gonzalez’ approach to relief pitching…….

Keep pitching the same guy over and over again until he become ineffective and ready for arm surgery……..today…..that approach was with Martinez. Nice job…..Freddy.

Biglefty

September 25th, 2011
4:25 pm

The Braves may outdo the Red Sox for biggest choke job.

Mitchell

September 25th, 2011
4:31 pm

But they have ruled out the division series.

ray

September 25th, 2011
4:31 pm

we are matching red Sox loss for loss. when they say you backed into the playoffs, they usually don’t mean you lose almost every game.
another short outing for a starter. can’t get 6 innings out of any of these guys in their mid 20s.
Cards have to lose today or we are in dire straits (as in the rock group).
Phil aren’t rolling over for us. Astros can’t beat Cards more than once.
they did it to themsleves. couldn’t win 1 of that 3 game set head to head with St Louis.
what an offense !

8ball

September 25th, 2011
4:32 pm

Fire Fredi!!!!!!!!!!!

8ball

September 25th, 2011
4:35 pm

Cards 2-2 in 8th..

fuzzmeister

September 25th, 2011
4:35 pm

Sad,sad,sad no excuses just sad

8ball

September 25th, 2011
4:36 pm

Cards just scored 3-2 Cards in bottom of 8th

STRETCH

September 25th, 2011
4:36 pm

DIVISION SERIES…LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT A GROUP OF QUITERS! AND THESE GUYS EXPECT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? THEY WILL NOT MAKE IT. THIS HAS GOT TO BE A HISTORICAL SEASON, TWO TEAMS WITH THIS MUCH TALENT IN BOTH LEAGUES, CHOKING AWAY DOUBLE DIGIT LEADS AT THE SAME TIME…EPIC!!!

WREN, YOU GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO THIS OFF-SEASON.

Mitchell

September 25th, 2011
4:37 pm

If the Cardinals win, they win the wild card.

Nobody’s going to show up tomorrow night. The Braves are just going to use it as an excuse to throw in the towel and blame the lack of fan support.

Of course, the Rays have the lowest attendance in the majors but that doesn’t stop them for winning two AL East division titles in four years and possibly a wild card.

3-2 Cards.

Happy Halloween.

STRETCH

September 25th, 2011
4:43 pm

You always here managers and players say, “were just in a funk” thats no funk…thats a “fake.” The Braves as currently constructed are fakes, top to bottom they CANT hit when they need to.

The pitching is bad and now the offense is exposed. Can someone tell me that last time this offense blew open a game? Heck, i think they have scored 8 runs maybe a handfull of times this season.

That alone says something about management and players approach to games. They are all about picthing and this time the lack of has hurt them, im ready for the offseason. Dont want to see these guys get knocked out of the first round AGAIN!

Tampa Gator

September 25th, 2011
4:44 pm

Another obvious……the Cardinals want it more than the Braves do…….Cardinals down to Cubs…..they come back in the 7th and 8th. Braves down…..and stay down…..without even making a wimper of an effort to come back.

Winter trade question: Which two young Braves guns do the Braves give up with Prado and another prospect for a left fielder who can hit with average and power? And who will it be?

kwajbraves

September 25th, 2011
4:44 pm

Don’t worry JJ. You don’t have to do anything else this season.

Bill

September 25th, 2011
4:46 pm

Cards win!!!!
Cards want it more and have better manager…….

Jim from Roswell

September 25th, 2011
4:46 pm

What divisional series? In 2012? The Atlanta Chokers are not quite done choking yet but give them another 3 days.

The choke job by Fredi last Sunday night took the cake. Would LaRussa let ANY pitcher walk 3 in a row? Really? And the last walk tied the game. What a joke!

wolf

September 25th, 2011
4:49 pm

Proposed speech for Fredi after Cardinals win wild card: “I am disappointed, angry, and ASHAMED at the way the Braves played in September, in the race for the playoffs.” As manager, I made my share of mistakes and accept my share of the blame. HOWEVER, EVERY player on this team also needs to be disappointed, angry, and ashamed of the way they played. They need to remember the times they couldn’t get down a bunt, move a runner to third base, make contact when almost any contact would have meant a run, made a good pitch instead of ball four, given the team 6-7 good innings instead of 4 or 5, made a key play in the field. This was a huge collapse on the part of everybody, and every player on the team should be thinking about this all winter. We have no excuses for blowing such a huge lead, and none of us should offer any.” How much do you bet Fredi would ever make such a speech?

Marteeeeeeeen

September 25th, 2011
4:50 pm

In case you all haven’t noticed, Colorado is beating the Astros 16-1. I don’t think the Astros will be a formidable foe for the Cardinals.

Meanwhile, the Phillies could throw a AAA washout up there and he would 2-hit the Braves.

rally

September 25th, 2011
4:52 pm

Update: The Division series HAVE ruled out the Braves and Jurrjens.

Fredi

September 25th, 2011
4:52 pm

Got to tip my hat to Nationals and Cards…

Herschel Talker

September 25th, 2011
4:52 pm

I’m confused. Are the Braves trading Jurrjens to the Cardinals?

Rowsdower

September 25th, 2011
4:53 pm

Just get ready for next year, JJ. I am ruling out the Braves making the Division Series.

rally

September 25th, 2011
4:53 pm

Cardinals know how to inject those Steroids like Tony LaRussa’s teams have done for 20 years now.

JD

September 25th, 2011
4:55 pm

Division series LOL… Can’t score with the bases loaded and no outs. Shut out by the Nats, give me a break.

terrell

September 25th, 2011
4:58 pm

Can we just forfeit?

the truth...

September 25th, 2011
5:01 pm

For the first time this season I will bash Fredi now……………..

WHY ?

Because he deserves it that’s why….very simple in my view. He is so inconsistent it isn’t funny. Just remember a couple of months ago he was hot on the “waterbugs” ….. and making something happen.

Now making something happen is running McCann….sending Bourn when you have a runner on third and one out.

Today he has bases loaded and no outs then 2nd and 3rd and no outs and he isn’t smart enough to 1. let Bourn but the runner in either time….

Chipper….let’s call him out now………………CHOKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Run your mouth Chipper ….then you can’t back it up….so then the young guys have a “no show” as their leader….

McCann……….you should have sat yourself down. You know your oblique is still screwed up but you kept going out there day after day……….

Not smart…….

There will be no playoffs for this bunch.

Fredi you should resign….you blew this………….YOU FREDI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JIM

September 25th, 2011
5:02 pm

BOURN,PRADO AND HEYWARD ALL 3 ARE NOTHING BUT===CHOKERS===BIG TIME==
GOT TALENT BUT ALL 3 ARE TO ==DUMB TO GET OUT OF RAIN==BASEBALL WISE==
MANAGER FREDDIE IS SO DUMB MAKING LINEUP AND MANAGING THAT HE IS NOTHING
BUT A BIG ==JOKE==WE THOUGHT COX WAS BAD BUT COX WAS A BIG CREDIT TO FREDDIE..
WREN MADE ==BIG==MISTAKE ON HIRING HIM==DONE WORE OUT HIS 7TH INNING AND EIGHT INNING AND CLOSER OUT BEFOR SEASON GOT 2/3 OVER..
CASE CLOSED….

Ken Stallings

September 25th, 2011
5:05 pm

Braves are not going to make post season. They are going to choke it all away and will earn an historical wrath for choking away an 8.5 game lead in two weeks! Congratulations!

But, that’s what happens when you play like it doesn’t matter to you. And how do I know it doesn’t matter?

It shows when you have you backup catcher take two 100 mph strikes and then attempt a bunt on strike two, foul it back for striket three, and then immediately get caught taking high fives and laughs from his teamates in the dugout!

How about feeling ashamed of yourself, David Ross! That’s what you should have felt. Take the bat off your shoulder and try to square a fastball. You might get lucky and put it in the seats and gain some momentum! But, no, as a slow catcher, throw away the at bat trying to bunt a high 100 mph fastball!

Now we get to two situations early in the game where you have bases loaded, nobody out, and you can’t score a single run! Two innings later, you have runners on second and third with one out and again cannot scratch out a run!

I hope they enjoy the off season on the golf course because they certainly do not enjoy our respect!

Double Zero Eight

September 25th, 2011
5:06 pm

DEBACLE ON HANK AARON DRIVE

Directed By: Fredi Gonzalez

Produced By; Frank Wren

Starring: The Atlanta Braves

THE END

dawg4u

September 25th, 2011
5:06 pm

The only way Jurrjens will get in the division series is if he buys a ticket to the Phils-Cards game in the first round. Why did everybody in our organization think it was such a great idea to hire a man that was fired by the Marlins? Can anybody or anything motivate these guys who just look completely listless and uninspired?

bravesfaninNashville

September 25th, 2011
5:07 pm

terrell…… Can we just forteit? If they’re not going to give any better effort than they have lately it would be less embarrassing. Maybe the two worst at bats I’ve seen Chipper have in recent memory. No excuse for not scoring with the bases loaded and NOBODY OUT.. Why didn’t they have Bourn try a drag bunt towards the second baseman? I know the corners were in but SS and 2B were at DP depth. Prado is absolutely worthless in the 2 hole. Is Chipper even trying to be a leader besides making ridiculous antagonizing comments to make the Phillies want to make him eat his words? I can’t even bear to watch the next 3 games. The Cardinals find a way to win when they have to and the Braves don’t.. Fredi is lost as last years Easter Egg in the dugout..

bravesfaninNashville

September 25th, 2011
5:08 pm

Are the Braves being paid to lose?

iTiSi

September 25th, 2011
5:09 pm

After what Washington has just done to the Phillies and the Braves, they are the team that needs to be going to the playoffs. Why not just take a vote and award it to them. If I were the Braves and Cardinals, I would be embarassed to be going ahead of the Nationals. The Braves don’t deserve diddly! If they go (which is doubtful) they will be one round and done!

Ken Stallings

September 25th, 2011
5:11 pm

Then we have to endure Chip Carey doing his utmost to justify the whole thing talking about how he couldn’t have hit the pitch! Really, Chip! Ye of the constaint Bobby Cox refrain, “A big leager can time a jet!” Last I heard jets go faster than 100 mph and I outta know since I fly airplanes for a living!

The fault doesn’t lie with the pitchers who take the loss each night. Do your job at the plate and score a few and the pitcher can actually throw strikes instead of having to constantly paint the black. Minor threw a realy good slider and the hitter put it just over the left field wall for the first run.

Christian Martinez threw up two full innings of 0’s until he made one mistake to give up the two-run homer.

I have a really tough time blaming the pitchers for this loss today. How many innings of shutout ball does a pitching staff have to throw to win a vital game against a sub .500 team!

JIM

September 25th, 2011
5:12 pm

NO WONDER ==HOUSTON==UNLOADED BOURN===GOT TALENT BUT NO ==TEAM MAN AT ALL AND NO HEAD ON SHOULDERS AT ALL..TO BE GOOD ==CENTERFIELDER YOU HAVE TO GET JUMP ON BALL AT CRACK ==OF BAT===BOURN IS ALWAY 2 STEPS TO LATE==
EXAMPLE==WORTHS POPUP THAT FELL FOR SINGLE WITH 2 OUTS IN THE 7TH AND THEN MORSE HIT 2 RUN HOMER==WHAT A JOKE FOR CENTERFIELDER…
PRADO==JUST BIG CHOKER WITH MEN ON BASE===CASE CLOSED ON HIM==GOOD TTRADE BAIT THIS WINTER..
SAME FOR HEYWARD==GOOD TTRADE BAIT==

bravesfaninNashville

September 25th, 2011
5:12 pm

Double Zero Eight.. Best post in a long time…….. Says it all…

Poorbrave

September 25th, 2011
5:14 pm

I’ve been a Braves fan since day one but for the first time in my life I hope Braves don’t make play off. Thay don’t deserve it. Players can’t hit, pitchers all over used, hurt, etc.(where is Leo) Manager is a joke, no wonder Marlins fired him. Wren should clean house with new Pitching & hitting coaches. But nothing will happen and it will be same crap again next year. Some things never change!

Poorbrave

September 25th, 2011
5:18 pm

No need calling out individual players..They all screwed up and can’t hit…
I’ve always been in Chipper corner but now its time for him to hang it up and start coaching.

payer

September 25th, 2011
5:19 pm

Ever played baseball over the age of 16? I have.It is tough and I understand what is happening…the only thing missing is intensity.

They lack intensity which makes good things happen.

Have fun with the next 3 days all you Brave Fans, but do not forget to do your job now and fill that ballpark@!

Or are you guys losers?

I’ll be there, will U?

DawgDad

September 25th, 2011
5:21 pm

What a joke, O’Brien, I didn’t even read past the headline.

I WANT the Braves to make the playoffs (I’ve already purchased tickets), but this team is a bunch of chokers, and I don’t mean the starting pitching. When the collapse is completed look back at what Prado, Jones, Uggla, McCann have done down the stretch in the last two weeks. The core vets are choking up the season, and Bourn joined them today.

What are they paying Uggla? They needed a right-handed power bat to balance the lineup and he’s PATHETIC against left-handed pitching.

Before this series started I posted saying Hudson only gets two more starts, that’s two potential wins and I don’t see where the others will come from. Now, I’ll be surprised if they SCORE against the Phillies this week.

dawg4u

September 25th, 2011
5:21 pm

The only chance we’ve got would be for the Phillies to completely lay down (and it would take a lot of that) to insure that we get the Wild card so that they wouldn’t have to face the Cards in the first round who are red hot. That’s our chance!

Tip O' the Cap

September 25th, 2011
5:21 pm

Braves promotion for Wed 9/28: motion sickness bags to all in attendance! From 10 up to 1 behind the Cards in less than a month! Choke!

kerryb

September 25th, 2011
5:22 pm

Playoffs??? Playoffs?? This sorry team is not going to the playoffs and if they did it will be an early exit. They gave the stat for all the clutch hitting statistics for the year, not the month, the year and the Braves ranked last or next to the last in all of them. That’s not a recipe for a WS team. That’s a recipe for an early exit team. The Braves have absolutely no clutch hitters.

kerryb

September 25th, 2011
5:23 pm

The Phillies lost seven games in a row but I bet they can beat the Braves 3 games in a row.

BOISESTATEBRONCO

September 25th, 2011
5:23 pm

I AM SO TIRED OF THE BRAVES LOSING!!

steve brown

September 25th, 2011
5:25 pm

Do the Braves own the media in this town. Story after story talking about which of our pitchers will be available for the playoffs (which odds are we won’t make after one of the great collapses in baseball history). Chipper Jones is just damn perfect (no one questions the timing of the scheduling of his son’s sinus surgery or the fact that if he had slid into first during today’s game he might have ignited a rally). Pathetic all the way around.

captguitarman

September 25th, 2011
5:26 pm

Where did those August Braves go? Where did their August hitting go? How disappointing that such a huge margin of wins was just frittered away. For some reason they could not get the momentum going into the most important month, and as the Cards, Phillies, D Backs, and Brewers have all done. And now they face the prospect of limping/crawling into the play offs, which will happen, if at all, because of dumb luck. And on top of that, they have to finish out with the Phillies, a team clearly aiming to win the World Series, not just their division or the Pennant. Maybe that’s the problem. All we seem to hear about from the Braves is getting into the play offs. Then the assumption is that having done that, they will magically become a contender for the Pennant. Perhaps the goal, the bar needs to be set a bit higher, with everyone totally buying into it. If St. Louis chokes/stumbles (which they could) and the August Braves show up for the next three games, a wild card slot is still possible. But, that is not the way things moving — too many ifs. As one blogger noted, the bright is would be avoiding a very embarrassing 3-0 sweep in the play offs against a surging team.

Bummed

September 25th, 2011
5:27 pm

Lose 2 of 3 to marlins and 2 of 3 to nats….1 run in last 2 games? Cards have Houston. Braves have Philly. What a gutless 2 weeks. I see no emotion or fire. Cards in drivers seat. They earned it, they want it…

kerryb

September 25th, 2011
5:27 pm

Steve, Have you ever in 18 years seen Chipper Jones slide into first. I think it is a stupid move to make anyway. It has proven to slow you down instead of running through the bag.

Braves Suck

September 25th, 2011
5:27 pm

Unreal, this team can’t do anything right. Seriously, in the midst of a potential playoff run and you are losing games non stop and series to teams that don’t even have a shot at the playoffs. I wish this team had more heart as it would be easier to support them even when they do bad, but seeing as they have pretty much given up with their pathetic ass play, I am giving up on this pathetic ass team.

After the 2nd game with the Phillies, the Cards should have the WC wrapped up and we can get the shots in the Braves dugout with their heads down and pouting like they always do. This team is a joke, and I am glad now that they won’t be in the playoffs because as a fan of the sport in general, I want to see competitive series in the playoffs. The only team that the Braves could be competitive with and possibly win a playoff series against is their Class A team, and even that is not a guarantee. The only guarantee there would be that the Braves would find some kind of way to blow the game and send their fans home ticked off. Way to choke you losers, I hope you had fun in the process, and took great comfort in knowing that you swindled your fans again this year with all that pathetic ass hype you put on yourselves. You guys suck.

Nats Better Braves

September 25th, 2011
5:28 pm

What kind of team knows they need to win to make post season then allows a cellar dweller like the Nats to beat them ? Where did the offense go ? Are McCann,Chipper,Prado,Uggla,etc. mailing it in ? Are they quitters ? Why doesn’t Fredi call them out ? Just tip the freaking cap to every team and watch this implosion Fredi ! Its all you do….

Poorbrave

September 25th, 2011
5:28 pm

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Wren is a Clown

September 25th, 2011
5:29 pm

Wren needs to go now… He signed Lowe to 4 years 15m, Kamakazi to 3 years 8m, Chipper 3 years 15m… Uggla is digging out of his hole but that may yet be another disaster… I’d give Freddie another year but this collapse is the worst in franchise history… Wren strikes out on big signings… He needs to go back to the minors and learn how to hit…

Poorbrave

September 25th, 2011
5:29 pm

that damn cat

chopperhobby

September 25th, 2011
5:30 pm

Say and rant what yoou want but Bobby Cox looks awful good right now.I don’t think that a COX
coached team would have CHOKED like this.

Wussies and Wimps

September 25th, 2011
5:31 pm

Chipper Jones our Leader what a WIMP!!!! Does not even swing at strike three!!! What a joke this team is but With CHIPPER CHOKE JONES as the Leader what do you expect. This guy could not even be a CUB SCOUT LEADER…give me a break…..I have never seen a bigger bunch of LOSERS in my LIFE no PRIDE no GUTS how EMBARASSING……These are your ATLANTA BRAVES….we got three with the DIVISION CHAMPS and the CARDINALS got three with a team that won 51 GAMES Its OVER FOLKS…After What I saw today the BRAVES have already thrown in the TOWEL….even PRADO of all people what a WUSS…….Chippers answer is I guess the BASEBALL GODS are not shining on us RIGHT NOW….OUR LEADER SAYS THIS????? There are no men on this TEAM all PUNKS……and FREDDI GONZALEZ NEVER I MEAN NEVER HAS BOBBY COX CHOKED LIKE THIS AND PLAYED SO BAD FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH….BOBBY HAS HAD SOME BAD TIMES BUT NEVER THIS BAD….THIS IS WHY GONZALEZ GOT FIRED IN FLORIDA….10, 12, 8 GAME LOSING STREAKS…..WHAT EXACTLY HAS THIS GUY DONE TO DESERVE THE MANAGEMENT POSITION IN ATLANTA….NOTHING…WAY TO GO FRANK WREN YOU ARE A COMPLETE JOKE OF A GENERAL MANAGER…

quilqter

September 25th, 2011
5:32 pm

EVER SINCE GONZALEZ BENCHED CONSTANZA
THE BRAVES HAVE LOST.
THEY LOOK LIKE THEY DON’T CARE IF THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. I THINK THEY ARE A BUNCH OF YOUNG RICH SPOILED BRATS.
I NOW WILL SAY FORGET THE BRAVES.
GO DAWGS
GO DUCKS.

Tick

September 25th, 2011
5:32 pm

Okay, that’s enough gloom and doom. Let me inject some hope. We’re still one game up with only three to play. Our games are at home against the Phillies, who have now won once in their last nine games, and they won’t pitch Lee or Oswalt over six innings. Also, this is the same Phillies who lost two out of three at Houston about ten days ago. I predict Houston beats the Cards at least once. And once may be enough. I think we’ll take two out of three against a less than motivated Phillies team. After all, if they beat us, they’ll have to play the Cardinals.

bravesfaninNashville

September 25th, 2011
5:35 pm

If the Braves take more than 24 hours after the season (which for the Braves will be Wednesday) to Fire Fredi Gonzalez then Frank Wren needs to go too…. This team would not be in this position if Fredi had not been such a poor decision maker all year.. He has cost us AT LEAST 5 games and that is conservative with his in game management.. “or lack of”. I will not be watching this team in 2012 if he’s in the dugout…

DaveinNEPA

September 25th, 2011
5:39 pm

DOB

Why did you even bother to write this article? Jurrjens isn’t going to be around for the division series because there ain’t gonna be no division series for the Braves. Haven’t you been watching this team cough up the WC?

Coach B

September 25th, 2011
5:47 pm

You can’t bash Wren over this collapse. I felt like we had the right personnel in place at the deadline and our record indicated that to be true. The disheartening part comes from this lifeless effort we have seen in September. I am left to view this as a team of soft, gutless, modern day athletes. It pains me to face that! The Braves must be the worst conditioned team in baseball. Here is the second year in a row that we are limping to the finish line. Obliques, wrists, sore knees, shoulders, calves (WTF Alex!), and dehydration to name a few of the fatigue caused ailments that we won’t play through. Uggla is the only guy who guts it out and takes the field.
I am afraid that someone’s head should roll for this embarrassment. I am not ready to call for Fredi’s, but certainly feel that Parrish could be a casualty. Undoubtedly, the strength and conditioning guy should get the boot because we have none.

OrlandoBraveFan

September 25th, 2011
5:52 pm

Tick, I agreed with every other post I have read here but I have to say I like the positive thoughts because it’s pretty dang depressing being a fan from Atlanta some times. Look at Braves 1 WS, Dawgs (1980), Tech (1990?), Falcons, Thrasher’s (and Flames), and the Hawks.
With a pissed off feeling towards the Braves… Go Braves.

Wussies and Wimps

September 25th, 2011
5:55 pm

PLEASE FIRE DAVE OBRIEN TOO THIS IS ALL HES GOT WHEN THE BRAVES ARE CHOKING DOWN THE STRETCH AND HE IS TALKING ABOUT JURRJENS MIGHT BE READY FOR PLAYOFF….REALLY? HOW ABOUT STATING THE OBVIOUS THESE GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF BUMS, LOSERS, QUITTERS, CHOKERS….ETC ETC….

tdmorgan

September 25th, 2011
5:58 pm

I know this might be slightly ridiculous, but why not start Hanson on Tuesday and let him go as long as he can and Jurrjens go on Wednesday as long as he can and have Delgado, Vizcaino, and Teheran ready when needed. We need them in the playoffs if we can hold on to the Wild Card.

Wussies and Wimps

September 25th, 2011
6:00 pm

I HAVE BEEN CURSED I UNFORTUNATELY WAS BORN IN THIS WRETCHED SPORT STATE….I WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN BORN IN NEW ENGLAND OR NEW YORK EVEN IF I JUST LIVED THERE FOR ONE WEEK WHO CARES INSTEAD MY PARENTS HAD TO PROCREATE IN GEORGIA WHAT A SHAME…IT IS HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT HEARTACHE FOR SO MANY YEARS…..WHEN THE BRAVES LAY THE EGG ALL WEEK AND MISS THE PLAYOFFS I AM WRITING THEM OFF BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN WAY TOO MUCH HEARTACHE VERSUS JOY…..PROS AND CONS ARE SO LOPSIDED IT IS NOT EVEN FUNNY……AND NOW THE FALCONS ON THE FRONT OF SPORTS ILLUSTRATED TO WIN SUPER BOWL R U KIDDING ME HAVE THEY NOT SEEN THIS TEAM…..DID THEY PICK THE NAME OF THE TEAM OUT OF A HAT…GEEZ

smallmouth6

September 25th, 2011
6:22 pm

Wussies and Wimps: You could just do what a lot of other folks do down South and say your a Yankees fan or a New England fan.

Jharris

September 25th, 2011
6:26 pm

I hate seeing the Braves struggle. but have become accustomed to it. Give it to the Nationals, they played well against the Braves, they got all the breaks. To be honest, I believe the Braves had the Wild Card sewed up back in July and August because they were pacing with the Phillies who are the strongest team in the NL. They are 9-15 in September, that is the worst since 1989. Braves fans like myself have been spoiled because typically in the last 15 years the Braves play their best baseball in September. Chipper tears is up in September. If people would sit back and analyze the Braves season then they can realize and understand why they are struggling. Back in late August, I would have taken Lowe out of the rotation and put him back in the bullpen. Minor and Beachy have been good and the Braves would have been in worse shape. Getting swept by both the Phillies and Cardinals really have damaged the Braves. That 9th inning loss to the Marlins has not allowed the Braves to regain any momentum and put together a winning streak. They still control their destiny,but they have put themselves in position where they must sweep the Phillies or take 2 out of 3 games and I am afraid I don’t see that happening because the Phillies have lost 8 of 9 games and probably are going to turn it around and try to finish with 100 wins. It maybe better if the Braves don’t make the playoffs so that they can rebuild for 2012. I want the Braves to get Hanley Ramirez and get rid of Alex Gonzales. I want Lowe gone. I wouldn’t keep Uggla it would have been better if they would kept Infante. They should have gotten Hunter Pence, but they got Bourn who has great speed, but is a streaky hitter and choked today when the Braves needed him.

old dawg fan

September 25th, 2011
6:32 pm

The Braves have been mathimatically eliminated from the 2012 playoffs already!!!!
They are they bad.

Ron Hyatt

September 25th, 2011
6:57 pm

I told you so. Last October. This March. No forward progress until every last vestige of Booby Ball is eradicated.

Flailing Grade

September 25th, 2011
6:58 pm

Who needs Jurggens back? We have Matty Diaz! He’s a gamer.

Flailing Grade

September 25th, 2011
7:02 pm

Wren has got to go. But unless Schuerholtz goes – there won’t be any significant changes. There would have been no money ball without Hudson, Mulder & Zito. There would have been no Schuerholtz legend without Glavine, Maddox and Smoltz. The truth is that with the current financial constraints that the Braves are forced to live with has reduced this to a team that has to have flukish things happen to compete for 162 games. Let’s just resign ourselves to the way it was for most of the 80’s – just enjoy a few Braves games as a diversion until FB season. It’s over.

Craig

September 25th, 2011
7:34 pm

Why are we even talking about post season pitching……..The pitching heas been fine except for Lowe and Linebrink…..the senior guys just have not hit period……the braves needed a hard head who does whatever it takes to get guys across…..not swing for the fences with 2nd and 3rd less than two outs….

The Braves will have have some hard decsions with the position players next year to try to inject a winning, hard headed attitude….one that does not rely on the pen to continually drag them through the late innings…..

They need a big bat in LF or RF who hits for average as well as power and a SS that hits for average and not power……

True Braves Fan since 1966

September 25th, 2011
7:36 pm

I understand the frustration being vented here, but it is obvious that most of the venters who blame the Mgr or Gm have never played at any higher level than rec baseball. The burden and responsibility to get clutch runs in falls with the players. I am sure the players themselves wil tell you as much.Neither the MGR, the GM, nor the hitting instructor can actually “do it.” Parents parent, coaches coach, fans cheer/boo, BUT players PLAY. Selah.

Braves Fan

September 25th, 2011
7:41 pm

I got news for you buddy. Braves ain’t making the playoffs.

johnr

September 25th, 2011
8:07 pm

As soon as Fredi decided to start his playoff lineup the team took a nosedive. Looks like St Louis will win the wild card by 2

Stuart

September 25th, 2011
8:34 pm

The Braves seem to have that “Oh well, we’ll get ‘em tomorrow” kind of approach going. Why don’t they see that the playoffs have already begun…they need to win NOW; they can’t “get ‘em another day…” The offense needs to step up.

Stuart

September 25th, 2011
8:35 pm

BTW, WHY IS CONSTANZA OUT OF THE LINEUP??? He was the one thing we had going that brought a spark to the offense. He was taken out of the lineup for no apparent reason, and the offense has taken a nose dive…

RHR

September 25th, 2011
8:51 pm

DIVISION SERIES? WHAT DIVISION SERIES?!?

AHGASHA”AHOANHanhgoinasdklg hteoian~! !11!1 :mad:

bravo_fan52

September 25th, 2011
9:26 pm

The patients have control of the asylum that is all

N8

September 25th, 2011
9:32 pm

Nice headline. Funny stuff.

longtimefan

September 25th, 2011
10:30 pm

Wow! After reading the posts I asked my wife to remove all the knives from the house. I think somebody licked the red off your candy. I checked the standings and we are actually ahead of the Cardinals. I’ll bet they would rather be one up than one down going into the final 3 games. It is baseball: the tide can turn quickly. People bitch cause they believe McCann is trying to play thru an injured oblique. I guarantee those same ones would be saying he should be trying to play if he was on the bench. Just a guess but I’ll bet the players want to win as much or more than some of the “fans” above.

Simon Zinc-Trumpet-Harris

September 25th, 2011
11:06 pm

longtimefan, are you the paid apologist on the Braves Staff?

Fredi likes to B.S. himself

September 25th, 2011
11:08 pm

This article has been endorsed by Fredi Gonzalez. By the way, Fredi just bought a new TV and can’t wait to watch it this October.

2 GOOD DOGS

September 25th, 2011
11:15 pm

PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS! WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PLAYOFFS!

tdmorgan

September 25th, 2011
11:30 pm

Stuart, I hope you are joking about Constanza. Obviously you haven’t been watching the way the Heyward has been playing the past few weeks and the way that he has been turning things around. Let alone paid any attention to Constanza’s stats since he sprained his ankle. He is FOUR for TWENTY-EIGHT. That would be a .143 avg. (rounding up) with no walks. There is a reason that Matt Diaz has been playing over Constanza. He had a great few weeks when he first came up, but he is not a full time player.

Heisenberg

September 25th, 2011
11:42 pm

If Bosox make playoffs, they can thank the Braves for releasing Scott Proctor so Yanks can sign him. Proctor gives up a 3 run dinger in extra innings to put Bosox up 7-4.

David O'Brien

September 26th, 2011
12:38 am

Why did you even bother to write this article?DaveinNEPA

Oh, I don’t know. Something to do till the flight home.

joe

September 26th, 2011
7:00 am

starting pitching can’t get out of the 5th inning because none of them( other than Hudson) can keep from throwing 100 pitches in first 5 innings. overworked bullpen and the worst situational hitting team in baseball. How many times are there runners on second and third with less than 2 outs( or bases loaded) and we can’t hit a fly ball or a gronder to the right side of the infield to at least get 1 run, unbeleiveable !! Braves are awful…..

rc35

September 26th, 2011
7:31 am

Jurrjens should be ready by the time the Braves are in the division series again. I don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t be healthy by October, 2012!

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