WASHINGTON – The Phillies began Sunday mired in their first eight-game losing streak in 11 years, and privately the Braves probably would like to see their divison rivals snap that skid before arriving in Atlanta for a season-finale starting Monday.
Because does anyone think the Phillies could lose all of their last 12 games of the regular season?

Bad fourth inning doomed pitcher Brandon Beachy and the Braves in Saturday's 4-1 loss to the Nationals, the ninth loss in 14 games for Atlanta.
“I’m sure Charlie [Manuel, Phillies manager] is sitting in New York right now thinking, ‘we’ve got to start winning some ballgames,’” Atlanta manager Fredi Gonzalez said this morning, before his also-struggling Braves’ series finale with the Nationals.
Gonzalez only entertained the question – would you rather face the Phillies in their usual state or when they’re in a long losing skid? – for a few moments before closing the thought with, “But we’ve got to take care of our own camp.”
Indeed, the Braves can’t afford to look ahead or expect the Cubs or Astros to do their dirty work by knocking off the St. Louis Cardinals, who are only two games behind Atlanta in the wild-card standings with four games to play.
The Cardinals, who scored two runs in the ninth inning against erratic Cubs closer Carlos Marmol to win 2-1 on Saturday, finish their home series against Chicago today before closing the season on the road against the 103-loss Houston Astros.
The Braves, who’ve lost five of their past nine games and 14 of 23, finish today against the Nationals – Mike Minor faces Ross Detwiler in matchup of young lefties – before going home to finish the season with three against Philly.
I asked Jonny Venters on Saturday morning about possibly facing a skidding Phillies team in the season-ending series, knowing as everyone does that they snap out of their funk at anytime and reel off a bunch of wins.
“It’d be nice to do it in Atlanta,” he said of clinching the wild card. “But then again, we’re playing the Phillies in Atlanta. I think we’d rather not have that series be that meaningful.”
He said that before Saturday’s loss which, coupled with St. Louis’ win, made it impossible for the Braves to clinch the wild card here in D.C. today. So if and when they clinch, it’ll be in Atlanta against the Phillies.
Any combination of three Braves wins and Cardinals losses gives the wild card to the Braves, while a total of two Braves wins and Cardinals losses would force a one-game tiebreaker to determine the wild card. That game would be played Thursday in St. Louis.
Just another reason it’s imperative the Braves win some games in the next few days.
They were in the late innings of their own game yesterday against Washington when the Braves watched the excruciating, unchanged score on the big board above right field for several minutes from the Cardinals-Cubs game, where the bases were loaded with two out.
Before the scoreboard changed in D.C., Derek Lowe came down from the clubhouse to the dugout to report that the Cardinals had scored two runs on a bases-loaded walk and a wild pitch and pulled out the win.
“Obviously we were scoreboard watching; we saw them [Cardinals] lose,” first baseman Freddie Freeman said. “We have to take care of business and not worry about them.”
Gonzalez said his team has been able to stay loose in the clubhouse and the dugout during the final pressurized days of the playoff race, despite the scoreboards in every park that have constantly updated from the other games, i.e. the Cardinal games.
“They’re watching, they’re attentive,” he said of his players. “But you can’t play this game tight. They haven’t played that way. It’s the darndest thing, [lately] w e’ve played the best defense we’ve played all year. When’s the last time we made an error?”
It’s been 10 games since the Braves’ last error, by Venters on Sept. 12 against. They’ve gone 15 games since their last error by a position player, Dan Uggla’s miscue in the first game of the Sept. 8 doubleheader at New York.
But for the Braves, defense has been their only steady component in that span. Since Hurricane Irene postponed two games at New York Aug. 27-28 (necessitated that doubleheader) the Braves have a 10-15 record.
Meanwhile, the Phillies are 4-12 with a .213 batting average in their past 16 games and have scored three runs or fewer seven times during their eight-game skid. Yet still have the best record (98-60) in the majors.
Atlanta is 6-9 against Philly this season and has lost the last four games against them.
Since Sept. 11, the going-nowhere Nationals are 11-3 with a 2.20 ERA, while the Phillies are 4-12 with a 3.15 ERA in that same span.
BRAVES LINEUP Sunday
♣ Pitching matchups vs. Phillies: Monday — Randall Delgado (1-1, 2.70) vs. Cliff Lee (16-8, 2.38); Tuesday — Derek Lowe (9-16, 4.92) vs. Roy Oswalt (8-10, 3.86); Wednesday — Tim Hudson (16-10, 3.23) vs. TBA.
Philly was going to use Cole Hamels in that series finale, but changed their plan today and will probably go with a “bullpen game” with several pitchres. They could possibly start Vance Worley, the rookie standout who is moving from the rotation back to the bullpen for the playoffs.
♣ They’ve got skills: I keep forgetting to put the complete list of Braves players and prospects who made the Best Tools lists in the Baseball America midseason survey of managers in their respective leagues. The BA issue came out over a month ago.
Here’s the rundown:
National League
Best hit-and-run artist: 2. Martin Prado

Prado is rated the second-best hit-and-run artist in the NL by league managers.
Best baserunner: 1. Michael Bourn (ahead of Jose Reyes and Andrew McCutchen)
Fastest baserunner: 1. Bourn (ahead of Reyes and Emilio Bonifacio)
Best pitcher: 2. Jair Jurrjens (between Roy Halladay and Clayton Kershaw)
Best fastball: 2. Craig Kimbrel (after Aroldis Chapman of Reds)
Best curveball: 3. Tommy Hanson
Best reliever: 2. (tie) Kimbrel and Joel Hanrahan (behind Brian Wilson)
Best defensive catcher: 3. Brian McCann (behind Yadier Molina and Phils’ Carlos Ruiz)
Best defensive shortstop: 3. Alex Gonzalez (1. Tulo, 2. Reyes)
Best defensive outfielder: 1. Bourn
Triple-A International League
Best pitching prospect: Julio Teheran, Gwinnett
Best fastball: Teheran
Best reliever: Jairo Asencio, Gwinnett
Fastest baserunner: Jose Constanza, Gwinnett
Double-A
None
Class-A Carolina League
Best breaking pitch: Arodys Vizcaino, Lynchburg
Best defensive shortstop: Andrelton Simmons, Lynchburg
Best infield arm: Simmons
Most exciting player: Simmons
♣ OK, let’s get this posted. I’ll file separates on Alex Gonzalez, who’s out at least one more day with his calf strain, and about the pitching situation with Tommy Hanson and Jair Jurrjens. But I want to get this posted before first pitch and I’m about out of time.
We’ll close with a fine tune from the exceptional Ms. Neko Case, which you can here by clicking here for a unique and cool fan-made video, and see her perform live by clicking here.

“I’M AN ANIMAL” by Neko Case
You could say it’s my instinct
Yes I still have one.
There’s no time to second-guess it.
Yes there are things that I’m still so afraid of
But my courage is roaring like the sound of the sun
‘Cause it’s vain about its mane
And will reveal them to no one
I’m an animal
You’re an animal too.
Pick up that rock,
tread through that lake
I do my best,
But I’m made of mistakes.
Yes there are things I’m still quite sure of.
I love you this hour
This hour today
And heaven will smell like the airport,
but I may never get that proven
So let’s not waste our time
Thinking how that ain’t fair.
I’m an animal
You’re an animal too.
You’re an animal too.
– David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog
2,529 comments Add your comment
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
1:45 pm
Oh Boy!
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
1:46 pm
Minor is all over the place.
Tbraves
September 25th, 2011
1:48 pm
Cmmon Braves…make this a decent sunday
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
1:48 pm
Werth swings and misses at ball four in the dirt to record the first National’s out.
The A Bomb
September 25th, 2011
1:49 pm
I really and truly hope that Gonzalez assesses this season and realizes he wrote a really poor script.
Needs to manage his pitching staff A LOT better in the future, if there is one.
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
1:50 pm
Minor is making me angry already….
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
1:50 pm
‘Course, if Braves win the WS this year, Fredo will just about have a job for life.
Brave4life-1995 all over again?
September 25th, 2011
1:50 pm
I cant remember the last game where a Braves pitcher dominated the hitter
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
1:50 pm
Minor is having major control issues.
The A Bomb
September 25th, 2011
1:51 pm
Minor won’t survive this unless he grows a couple RIGHT NOW.
Tbraves
September 25th, 2011
1:51 pm
Course, if Braves win the WS this year, Fredo will just about have a job for life.
Oyy….lets make the Playoffs 1st…that looks hard enough for this team
T for Texas
September 25th, 2011
1:51 pm
Thanks, David. Big game today, Go Braves!
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
September 25th, 2011
1:52 pm
Thanks for the new Blog, Chief.
Best defensive catcher: 3. Brian McCann…
This could get intense…
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
September 25th, 2011
1:52 pm
Ow…
Tbraves
September 25th, 2011
1:52 pm
Minor will throw 40 pitches this inning…lol
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
1:53 pm
Quit bouncing the f’in ball to plate.
Good Lord I’m annoyed.
TnBrian
September 25th, 2011
1:53 pm
Wish Minor would do what that Nats pitcher did … attack.
Obvious the pressure is mounting on our Braves. They’re playing tight.
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
1:53 pm
Zimmerman walks on a zillion pitches.
Boy, could Minor use a double play.
Juan
September 25th, 2011
1:53 pm
Another long first inning from ours starter
T for Texas
September 25th, 2011
1:54 pm
Whew! That was close.
Tbraves
September 25th, 2011
1:54 pm
Wow…Lucky there…
Marrero now…is this guy related to Eli Marrero?
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
1:54 pm
Fly out to Prado, about five-ten feet away from being a 3-run home run.
Desmond moves up to third.
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
1:54 pm
Almost a 3-run shot….bare down here…we can’t afford to fall behind again.
phil
September 25th, 2011
1:55 pm
Prado ho hums another one….
TnBrian
September 25th, 2011
1:55 pm
He really wont attack guys now after that long out
Kat
September 25th, 2011
1:55 pm
David, thanks for the good read.
I may have missed it but if we do have to play that tiebreaker game on Thursday who would likely pitch for us?
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
1:56 pm
Minor isn’t pitching aggressive…he’s nibbling.
Seems like he’s trying not to make a mistake rather than just let it go….
TnBrian
September 25th, 2011
1:56 pm
I feel for Minor. All our pitchers need some help. Talking to YOU OFFENSE.
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
1:56 pm
Minor is not getting the low, outside pitch.
But, Marrero pops up weakly to center field.
24 pitches and more excitement than was really necessary.
Gimpah
September 25th, 2011
1:56 pm
Best defensive catcher: 3. Brian McCann (behind Yadier Molina and Phils’ Carlos Ruiz)
Hilarious! McError is the worst in MLB with 102 steals allowed.
phil
September 25th, 2011
1:57 pm
24 pitches….alert EOF…
Bravefaninok
September 25th, 2011
1:57 pm
Only 24 pitches….Better have a few easy innings or C-Mart will be in by the 5th.
StuffyChunk
September 25th, 2011
1:57 pm
I said it & I’ll say it again : These guys need closed door meetings between innings….& some may need them between pitches….
T for Texas
September 25th, 2011
1:57 pm
Kat–
Beachy would go Thursday as that is his day in the rotation, and Huddy would have pitched Weds.
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
1:58 pm
Need to get a lead. C’mon boys…
veer
September 25th, 2011
1:58 pm
Lets see what Diaz does this inning for us.
He was one of the big trades we made. He kills lefties.
Lets see if he does
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
1:58 pm
Nova Scotia Steve, September 25th, 2011, 1:54 pm … “….bare down here
I don’t think taking their clothes off is going to help their performance. <g>
Tbraves
September 25th, 2011
1:58 pm
Get Jesse Chavez ready in the Bullpen!!! LOL
Snotboogie
September 25th, 2011
1:59 pm
Best curveball: 3. Tommy Hanson
I thought the slider was his best pitch but his curveball is the best in the league? Some said his slider wasnt used as much anymore. But …
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2011
1:59 pm
Gimpah-
Your lack of understanding about how stolen bases work is amazing.
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
1:59 pm
LOL – abeeewright
Tbraves
September 25th, 2011
2:01 pm
Maybe we will even get no-hit today…sounds just about right for braves standards
Gimpah
September 25th, 2011
2:01 pm
cabravesfan – your incessant defending of a Brian McLimpArm is getting rather tired.
phil
September 25th, 2011
2:01 pm
What pitching from Hanson? Who? Does it matter with him nowhere to be found?
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
2:02 pm
Seems like that strike to Freeman was exactly the pitch that Minor wasn’t getting called to the other side of the plate. Either Detweiler is just a little bit more precise or Minor’s early wildness kept him from getting the calls.
Bravefaninok
September 25th, 2011
2:02 pm
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
1:56 pm
Minor isn’t pitching aggressive…he’s nibbling.
Seems like he’s trying not to make a mistake rather than just let it go….
It would be nice to get him a 5 spot so he doesn’t feel the need to nibble.
veer
September 25th, 2011
2:03 pm
The Braves offense is playing life less.
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
2:03 pm
Pittsburgh must have taught Diaz some patience. That was three whole pitches without a hack.
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2011
2:03 pm
Gimpah-
No more tired than you repeated posting about Mac’s caught stealing rate like it’s the only thing that matters and like it’s all on him to hold runners on base.
phil
September 25th, 2011
2:03 pm
Aside from Bourn, is anyone else on this team in any kind of decent physical shape? Look at Diaz! Up 20 pounds at least….
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
2:04 pm
Braves getting no-hit through 1-1/2.
veer
September 25th, 2011
2:04 pm
Diaz the lefty killing specialist strikes out.
Great TRade
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2011
2:04 pm
Besides, I will trust the opinion of baseball experts regarding Mac’s defense over anything you have to say…
phil
September 25th, 2011
2:04 pm
More of yesterday….
Enough. Hoping but not optimistic…
Later.
Tbraves
September 25th, 2011
2:05 pm
Wow…Another great 3Ab’s
Brave4life-1995 all over again?
September 25th, 2011
2:05 pm
lmao…………………just lifeless
TnBrian
September 25th, 2011
2:05 pm
Yeah, Diaz sucks. Awful player. Cannot stand the guy as a player. Everything we didn’t need – another know nothing at the plate hacker. Why Wren?
Brave4life-1995 all over again?
September 25th, 2011
2:06 pm
phil
have you seen Uggla and Heyward
N Nine
September 25th, 2011
2:07 pm
lol, Mitchell talking to himself at the old blog!
David O'Brien
September 25th, 2011
2:10 pm
Aside from Bourn, is anyone else on this team in any kind of decent physical shape? Look at Diaz! Up 20 pounds at least….– phil
What are you even talking about? Uggla, Hudson, Heyward, Constanza, Beachy … those guys have body-fat counts we could only dream of having. Kimbrel, Teheran, O’Flaherty. At least half the 25-man roster is in excellent condition by any standard.
Tbraves
September 25th, 2011
2:10 pm
Here we go again
Doc Holliday
September 25th, 2011
2:11 pm
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
1:28 pm
Where is everyone???? This is a huge game.
Football day, I guess. The dedicated ones are here, I know that!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Watching the game?
LOB Braves
September 25th, 2011
2:11 pm
Typical start for the Bravos today. 6 up 6 down.
The A Bomb
September 25th, 2011
2:12 pm
This situation is really unfair to these kid pitchers. Hope one or all of them don’t end up like Devine.
David O'Brien
September 25th, 2011
2:12 pm
Diaz the lefty killing specialist strikes out.
Great TRade — veer
You wouldn’t even know what the Braves gave up in that trade without looking up.
LOB Braves
September 25th, 2011
2:13 pm
One run today by the Braves is not going to cut it.
T for Texas
September 25th, 2011
2:13 pm
Gotta take care of the pitcher here.
Efrim
September 25th, 2011
2:13 pm
Minor gives up a lot of extra base hits…..
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
2:13 pm
Big strike out…now let’s get the pitcher…not as easy as it may sound. Man, we given up a lot of hits to pitchers it seems.
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
UNBELIEVABLE.
LOL
T for Texas
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
Buscemi!
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
Nice Jack!
Bravefaninok
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
robbed his a s s!
veer
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
Wilson just saved our season
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
Joe…seriously…SHUT UP ABOUT PITCH SELECTION!! My LORD…yeah, look! He got an out on a fastball! It IS possible…that’s why they still throw them…
Brava
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
Wow! What a catch!!
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
Nice catch!
cabravesfan
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
Minor gives up a lot of extra base hits…
Doesn’t really matter if none of them score…
N Nine
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
lol, Gomes froze then actually ran back to second base, all with 3 outs
Tbraves
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
Living on the edge today again braves
Brave4life-1995 all over again?
September 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
The pitcher had a better AB than half our hitters….scratch that all our hitters
Efrim
September 25th, 2011
2:15 pm
Yikes, the boys better get the bats going. Like, seriously.
The A Bomb
September 25th, 2011
2:15 pm
STEVE-O!
WILL WE EVER LEARN HOW TO PITCH TO PITCHERS????
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
2:15 pm
Minor is like a monkey playing with hand grenades on the mound today. We need to get some runs.
Or have a good at-bat, or a walk or at least a solid foul ball.
ANYTHING.
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
2:15 pm
According to the announcers, Diaz has been hitting .301 since coming over to the Braves. Don’t judge by one AB.
At least Diaz saw five pitches. Chipper flied out on the first pitch.
Doc Holliday
September 25th, 2011
2:16 pm
Not to mention Chipper…………..for a guy his age, he looks rock solid.
But I think phil was talking about:
1. Mac
2. Moylan
3. Sherril
4. Linebrink
5. Gonzalez
6. Lowe
I think Martin has gain some weight also, but nothing alarming.
The rest of the team is just in a superb shape IMO
G
September 25th, 2011
2:16 pm
Once again a starter with a high pitch count after 2 innings…. 40 pitches
veer
September 25th, 2011
2:16 pm
David O’Brien
September 25th, 2011
2:12 pm
Diaz the lefty killing specialist strikes out.
Great TRade — veer
You wouldn’t even know what the Braves gave up in that trade without looking up.
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Even if the Braves got the guy for free He still wouldn’t be worth it. Heyward has the ablity to change the game with his skills. Constanza has the speed to change the game.
Diaz coming to Atlanta simply means more deserving players within the team are not being given playing time esp Constanza.
Efrim
September 25th, 2011
2:17 pm
Doesn’t really matter if none of them score…
Sooner or later they will. You play with fire…..
That’s baseball, cab. Just like hitting with RISP isn’t a repeatable skill. same thing for the other side.
N Nine
September 25th, 2011
2:17 pm
Medlen to relief Minor if he struggles?
The A Bomb
September 25th, 2011
2:17 pm
Great… now FOX showing the Phillies jinx graphic.
These guys never stop.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
September 25th, 2011
2:18 pm
Yeah…Gimpah talking about someone’s incessant posts being “tired”? That’s like a fly getting irritated because a bee is making a buzzing noise…
Senor Beisbol
September 25th, 2011
2:18 pm
Gotta luv MLB baserunners that have NO idea..how many outs there are…mighty impressive
LOB Braves
September 25th, 2011
2:19 pm
Glad McPopup not in there today.
abeeeewright
September 25th, 2011
2:19 pm
Ross breaks up the no-hitter to start the 3rd inning.
Tom O'Hawke
September 25th, 2011
2:19 pm
McFann
Mute the TV and turn on the radio.
Doc Holliday
September 25th, 2011
2:19 pm
Good thing gonzalez is on the bench, if he had leaped for that liner, gravity would have pull him down before the ball got to him.
Bravefaninok
September 25th, 2011
2:19 pm
Rossy gets it started……Nicely done
Nova Scotia Steve
September 25th, 2011
2:19 pm
Encouraging.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
September 25th, 2011
2:20 pm
Good hit.