Braves quotes after Friday loss to Cardinals


Kimbrel look any different to you tonight?

“No, not at all. You just can’t put people on base for the big boy to come up. You know what, it happens. It happens to everybody. He’s been really good. Get him back on track and get him back out there as soon as you can.”

Could it almost be good for him to blow one before postseason, rather than go in with a 45-game scoreless streak and so much accompanying attention?

“I don’t know. I know the young man is pretty resilient. He had a couple of these early on this year and bounced back terrifically. I don’t think that’s going to be any different. I think he’s going to be OK.”

On Delgado’s five strong innings

“He competed. If you had to critique him really hard, you’d say almost 100 pitches and some walks here and there in five innings of work.

“But we played a pretty good ballgame, made some great defensive plays. Danny was terrific. We get Furcal with Chipper throwing behind the runner to second base to end an inning. So, good ballgame other than the end. This game of ours, you’ve got to throw the ball over the plate. You can’t sit on it and kill the clock. We didn’t do that, and the big boy got us.”

On Bourn’s four-hit night with RBI triple in ninth

“That was big, against a tough left-handed pitcher [Arthur Rhodes] that’s had some success against him. To get the trip and another run. You feel good. But again, you can’t run out the clock. You’ve got to throw it over the plate and get the last out. We just didn’t do that today.”

But Kimbrel’s the type to bounce back?

“He has in the past, and I don’t see this being any different.”


Walks what killed you?

“Yeah, they always do. Whenever you put guys on for free, it seems like it always comes back to get you. And I just hung a pitch there at the end [to Pujols] and he kept it inside the line. It wasn’t a pitch I wanted to throw or where I wanted to throw it. I just made a mistake, and he made me pay for it.”

Were you not feeling good, not comfortable?

“I was just a little off. Nothing big. Just one of those outings.”

Do you just have to erase this as a closer, forget it?

“I’m just going to come back tomorrow ready to do my job, and I hope the opportunity is there, because I definitely want to be in there.”

You aware that Pujols was looming, you think about who’s coming up next couple batters?

“I just go one hitter at a time. A hitter goes in the box, I got right at ‘em. It didn’t work out for me tonight.”


Did you feel pretty good out there?

“Yes. I was trying to keep the team ahead. Everybody was playing good, awesome. Bad luck at the end, but it was a very good game.”

The pitching count nearing 100 in five innings

“The first couple of innings I was feeling uncomfortable, but I think I made the adjustment. It wasn’t too bad. I tried to work on all that during the game. I did the adjustment I had to do.”

Hard to see your potential first win go by the wayside?

“I wasn’t thinking that. I was thinking the team has to win. Like I said, maybe it was a little bad luck at the end. But it was a good game.”


On facing the heart of the order in the 10th

“I made some pretty good pitches, but those are some good hitters. Sometimes you’ve got to tip your hat to them. I hate to do it in a situation like that, but they got the first two hits and they put us in a situation where I couldn’t really mess with any off-speed pitches. I just had to come right at them.

“Those guys – you can make good pitches in this game and still not get results. You can sit there and complain about it, or you can get back out there and get the job done. But we’re not worried about making pitches at this point, we’re worried about results. That didn’t happen tonight.”

On bullpen workload for Kimbrel, Venters, others

“Those guys have had an unbelievable workload. They did an amazing job, even with the starter coming out after five innings. They’ve definitely had a heavy workload lately, and they did their job.”

On Kimbrel blowing a save for first time in nearly three months

“That just shows you how special what he’s done up to this point has been. He still did a great job out there tonight. That’s just a tough team, and they just flat beat us tonight.”

Still feel good about where you guys are?

“Yeah, it’s certainly no time to panic right now. We’ve still got a 6-1/2-game lead, and we have what, 16, 17 left to play? We just have to do what we can do. It’s been a tough road trip so far, but we’ve still got time to turn it around. Then we get back home and we’re going to play some good ball there and get this thing done.”


On Kimbrel blowing a save for first time in nearly three months

“Kimbrel’s been a bulldog all year long. He had one of them nights. You know, first guy gets on, he made some good pitches and got two outs. Made some close pitches, but they weren’t strikes. Then he came back, threw two nasty pitches to Pujols, and Pujols happened to put the barrel on one and it found a hole. It sucks, but….

“We played well. We didn’t score as many runs as we’d like to, but we had the lead in the ninth, which is what we’re trying to do obviously. He battled and battled and battled. You’re not going to have your best stuff every night, but he still battled, and that’s the way it came out.”

Still feel good about where you are, 6-1/2 game lead with 17 to play?

“Well, we’re not comfortable with it by any means. We’re looking to clinch this thing as fast as possible. This would have been a pretty good dagger to win this first one here. But we’ve still got two more and a chance to leave here being ahead more than when we got here.”

On long day after long night following doubleheader in New York

“That’s baseball. We’re never going to make an excuse about travel. We came ready to play today. It just so happens they came out on top.”

135 comments Add your comment

Kimbrel rocks

September 10th, 2011
1:24 am

linebrink’s comments are simply breathtaking….the guys give up the game winning run and he has the NERVE to say “i made some good pitches” WHAT A TOTAL TOTAL LOSER


September 10th, 2011
1:24 am

(insert angry Braves fan rant here)

Cap tipping time

September 10th, 2011
1:26 am

linebrink doesnt deserve to “tip his cap”
he’s been sh*t since his return from the DL
he had that one good month.. either june or july….
pathetic loss…… 3rd game they sh*t away in a week……
i’ll be ecstatic with 1 win.. especially with lowe going tomorrow

and last, Pitch deeper into the games… f**K!

Mr. Enigma

September 10th, 2011
1:27 am

It’s really hard to stay optimistic watching Venters and Kimbrel starting to suck at the same time. Also, more blown chances by the Braves offense. Runners on 1st and 3rd with 0 outs and you score nothing with really awful, impatient at-bats by Prado and Wilson. Can’t fault Delgado there because he’s not a hitter. Scoring just one there would have obviously been huge. But this team is really screwing up the little things at the totally wrong time while the Cardinals are catching fire (10-4 in their last 14).

And Derek Lowe is pitching tomorrow? Shoot me.


September 10th, 2011
1:28 am

getting a little bit worried.. .thank god we swept the dh yesterday

Kimbrel rocks

September 10th, 2011
1:28 am

lowe pitchin tomorrow = 5 1/2 wc lead by midnight

Him Tudson

September 10th, 2011
1:28 am

Linestinks did make some good pitches, though. Unfortunately, all he’s capable of throwing for strikes are fastballs at this stage of his career, and good hitters can eventually time it.

A sad-making game.


September 10th, 2011
1:29 am

Brutal loss.

These games matter despite the media’s attempt to malign them.

Just hope Kimbrel isn’t one of these fragile headcases.

Kimbrel rocks

September 10th, 2011
1:31 am

has linebrink went a game in the past month w/o giving up a run?


September 10th, 2011
1:31 am

Uggla has the best quotes. What a classy guy. Thanks DOB.

Calm Down

September 10th, 2011
1:35 am

Braves have 17 games left. Cardinals have 18 left.

If the Braves just go 8-9 the rest of the way, they finish 92-70.

The Cardinals would have to go 15-3 in their final 18 to finish with the same record.

Calm your asses down.


September 10th, 2011
1:40 am

Unbelievable! Linebrink lives in a fantasy world. Tip his cap indeed! He’s been awful since the all star break. 0 His fastball is flat, his splitter doesn’t fool anyone, his breaking pitches are easy meat and the only hitter he gets out is one who gets himself out or hit aline drive right at someone. He has nothing left, nothing. Someone show him the numbers or perhaps read them to him and explain what they mean since he doesn’t comprehend that he is through, washed up, shot, no longer a major league caliber pitcher.

The question not asked Fredi G? Since Linebrink has only been good for mop up work since Scott Proctor left, why was he used before all other options were exhausted?
Are you aware that Braves fans believe you’ve raised the white flag in a game when you bring Linebrink in? What do you say to those folks who live and die Braves baseball?
Are there any plans to replace him with someone who can still get major league hitters out, perhaps Ascencio, Flande or Gearrin?
I know they won’t be asked but that’s what fans want to know.

Cap tipping time

September 10th, 2011
1:43 am


they shouldve gone with gearrin or hoover

should be nice having either teheran or delgado out of the bullpen next week

Kimbrel rocks

September 10th, 2011
1:47 am

i have been saying this all along we needed another LOCK DOWN bullpen guy….kimbrel and venters are carrying too much of the burden we need another lights out guy

Cap tipping time

September 10th, 2011
1:55 am

@ kimbrel rocks..

ummm.. O’flaherty???


September 10th, 2011
1:56 am

My body cannot take this kind of blast to my ticker anymore, that is OUR Manager Moe Howard (3 Stooges fame) errrhhh… Fredi Gonzalez has the coconuts and STUPIDITY to bring Scott “Proctor” Linebrink into a tie game with our Wildcard rival in extra innings!!!

I give up, I surrender. There is NO explicable reason why OUR manager continues to bring in the washed up BUM Linebrink. We know the outcome… hits, walks, and runs.

HOW can the Braves WIN games with a MORON guiding the ship???!!! I THOUGHT I was getting SICK of ALL the EXCUSES Fredi uses for Jason Heyward (BUST!!!); now Fredi is making “excuses” for Linebrink.

Heyward had a nice game AGAIN at the plate tonight (NOT!!!).

Tommorrow night Derek “Kawakami” Lowe pitches. ANOTHER CERTAIN LOSS!!!

It would be well deserved if Fredi (Fredi Gonzalez prepared the Navigational Charts for the Titanic) guides us to miss the playoffs. It’s true folks, it could happen. You’d be surprised how FAST a 7 game lead can be REDUCED to being past in the standings by the Cardinals because the decisions Fredi continues to make at the helm.

We have ALOT of problems that people just seem to “look the other way” at. Heyward is a BUST, WHY is Scott “Proctor” Linebrink” still pitching in the majors???!!!, Matty “Lugo” Diaz “rakes lefthanders” (NOT!!!), Brooks Conrad has LOST his magic at the plate, and with just mentioning Derek Lowe, I rest my case.

THANKS AGAIN Frank Wren ( for ADDING that 4th year (2012) at 15 million for Derek Lowe.

Just wait, Wren added that 4th albatross year to Lowe’s contract, but when it comes to locking up Michael Bourn (the FIRST legitimate leadoff hitter all-star we’ve had in 10 years), it’ll be another “Texiera” all over again. Scott Boras is Bourn’s agent, the Braves and Boras don’t play well together, enough said. Enjoy Bourn for the short time we’ll have him folks. Liberty CHEAPIA as our owners, enought said again.



September 10th, 2011
1:57 am

“Walks what killed you?”

DOB, please tell me you did not ask Craig Kimbrel the question “Walks what killed you?”

That’s not a question.

That’s also not what killed him.

The Braves scoring three runs against the best offensive team in the National League is what killed him.

The Braves scoring three runs against a team with Albert Pujols on it is the problem.

Where is Martin Prado to answer for not making contact with runners at the corners and no outs in the 4th inning?

Why not just ask Chipper Jones why his ball in the first inning didn’t get over Lance Berkman’s head?

Craig Kimbrel is the last player on this team who should answer for the loss.

That’s pathetic.

Cap tipping time

September 10th, 2011
1:59 am

braves will win one
and the cards will lose 3 of 4 to the phillies

thats 4 losses right there..


September 10th, 2011
2:00 am

McCann, Uggla and Freeman going 1-2-3 in the top of the 10th is worse than Linebrink losing the game.

You don’t expect better from Scott Linebrink.


September 10th, 2011
2:02 am

How about offense? Heyward nothing..uggla nothing.. chipper 1/5.. cmon whats up with offense?


September 10th, 2011
2:04 am

@ Cap tipping time
Yes I know, I could have listed more but the point is Wren loves Linebrink even though he’s been washed up for a year. His veteran presence is good for the young guys. Veteran Presence = washed up expensive old dude. IF Linebrink had any self respect he’d retire and let us put someone out there that can actually get big league hitters out and has enough movement on their pitches to make them hard to hit.
Lineup should have scored more that is true. But when Linebrink entered the game every fan who knows who he is immediately knew the game was over and we had lost.

David O'Brien

September 10th, 2011
2:08 am

The Braves scoring three runs against the best offensive team in the National League is what killed him. Mitchell

So the Braves lead 3-1 going to the ninth, and their scoring only three runs is what killed Kimbrel, who gave up two runs in the ninth to send the game to extra innings? Thanks for that insight, Mitchell.

Now get some sleep. I think you need it.

David O'Brien

September 10th, 2011
2:09 am

mb: Uggla’s steady, man. Never gets too excited or down. It’s what got him through the slump, and he’s same now. Impressive.


September 10th, 2011
2:13 am

when’s the last time a starter went deep into a game..??
tired of seeing 5 ip


September 10th, 2011
2:13 am

You’re never going to make an excuse about travel, Dan Uggla?

Are you f*ing kidding me?!

I guess all the crying about Hurricane Irene forcing you guys to have to cut short the Mets series at the end of last month doesn’t fall into that category.


We’re never going to make excuses about travel. Except when you lose and you act like you’re not making an excuse even though you are.

Or does he mean when the season is over?

Next year the Braves will not make excuses about travel. Dan Uggla makes that promise to you Braves Country.


September 10th, 2011
2:17 am

DOB, you can chose to question Craig Kimbrel about blowing a save for the first time in months against a Hall of Famer.

I will continue to find fault where it truly lies, the offense.

I take it Larry Parrish was unavailable for post-game comments.


September 10th, 2011
2:19 am

You’re welcome for the insight by the way, DOB.

It is needed.


September 10th, 2011
2:22 am

travel is no excuse.. they Traveled to NY and swept the crap out of the mets


September 10th, 2011
2:31 am

This is the biggest bunch of cap tipping of idiots on any baseball team i have ever followed. read an article about randy wolfe a week or so ago. He was asked about tipping his cap to the other team. His response was ” are you kidding me ” I was horrible! I am so pizzed off, i could spit nails. Guess he woudn’t work in the in the Atlanta ” cap tippers clubhouse”. This team needs to wake up and get mad. tired of hearing ” well I guess we have to tip our caps”


September 10th, 2011
2:38 am

Why Oh Why is Linesticht still on the roster? Come on Freddi use that ole noggan of yours. And please sit JeyHey.


September 10th, 2011
2:41 am

LInebrink’s still around when we could have a pitcher instead. Why am I not surprised at this? Oh I know we had Scott Proctor and signed Rodrigo Lopez too. we just don;t pick veterans well huh?
Braves Formula For Failure–Score Too Few Runs Then Give The Ball To Linebrink «

Mitchell's Sister

September 10th, 2011
2:55 am

MOM, he’s playin’ with himself again.

Mitchell's Gerbil Ragout

September 10th, 2011
3:09 am

I thought I had retired after my 1998 Darwin Award Winning “Gerbil Rocket,” but Mitchell had other plans for me. All I am allowed to say is that his plans really stink and would someone call the ASPCA for me?


September 10th, 2011
3:38 am

Don’t forget to bring the hoagies and pretzels when you come up to see the Phillies play the Yanks in the Series.

Bruce Benedicts tight baby blue pants

September 10th, 2011
4:46 am

To those that have anything to do with Mitchell: Although the banter may be funny, there are PLENTY of sites where you can really get down and dirty.

Please remember the current venue your in. Go Braves and thank you for your continued support.


September 10th, 2011
5:05 am

saw linebrink in the pen and went to bed. wasn’t surprised at the loss.


September 10th, 2011
5:06 am

DOB: It is sad to hear a comment like our manager made that it “could almost be good that he blows one before postseason”. Does he not realize that we have not cinched the WC and the lead over the Cards is down to 6 and1/2 games?
Did he also forget he is starting Lowe tonight which greatly increases the possibility of only 5 and 1/2 game lead on Sunday a:m?


September 10th, 2011
5:35 am

I will say it again: CK is the reason the Braves have a shot at the wild card in spite of

1. JH being a bust this year. (what happened)
2. DL being inconsistent. (a four year contract…for this inconistent)
3. BM being tired. (catchers get tired at the end of the season)
4. FG being lackluster. (name one game where FG out managed the other team0
5. RM being lackluster. (too many innings and too many high pitch counts prior to all star break)
6. LP being ineffective. (name one player who has benefitted from the LP approach)

In short, absent CK, FG is gone. FG should be more careful with CK or the kid’s arm is going to drop off.

up north

September 10th, 2011
5:50 am

I don’t even want to read what they had to say. I went to bed after Kimbrel let them tie it up. I understand his run was not going to be forever. Heck, he’s probably tired. Now, Linebrink is another thing. He sucks, Just plain sucks.And, like I said before, what do you expect FGonz to say-their management sucks.

LOB Braves

September 10th, 2011
5:58 am

Why does any manager put linebrink in any game? Stupidity?



September 10th, 2011
6:37 am

Braves SUCK
I am so glad that football is here.


September 10th, 2011
7:07 am

Please keep Linebrink off the postseason roster.


September 10th, 2011
7:09 am

as long as we dont get swept. we’ll be fine.

bill hinton

September 10th, 2011
7:24 am

Is there any way that this blog could be screened so that individuals with little or no understanding of baseball could be prevented from posting? Simple minds questioning the manager’s decisions are a perfect example…we have one of the best records in baseball folks, despite an injury list that would take most teams out of the running. Gonzalez should be considered for Manager of Year if this team makes the playoffs.


September 10th, 2011
7:30 am

It’s over . . . for this year. No more Braves for me. Football time in Tennessee!

I ain't tipping my hat!

September 10th, 2011
7:48 am

Well, I know I’ll get the usual, “Folks, the Braves will be fine…” response, but I think the performance of the Braves vs the Phillies and last night show how this team will handle the pressure of the playoffs.

They can’t handle the pressure.


September 10th, 2011
7:52 am

Told everyone over a month ago the Braves would finish 10 games back of Philly. Ive been a Braves fan since the early 80’s but im being realistic as well.
From top to bottom other than possibly not having as good a Bullpen as the Braves, the phillies are better team and should end up in the World Series.
Back in July the Braves were closing in on the Phillies inwhich alot of you thought we could overtake them in 1st place and i said that the Phillies had alot of injuries and some of their players were coming back from IR.
Alot of you out there were kidding and joking about how bad Philly was and optomistically pointed out how much better the Braves were than Philly.
These Phillies are like the Braves back in 1990’s and i dont see anything changing soon. Atlanta may have the 6th or 8th best team in baseball and have improved vastly in the last couple years.
We’re Playoff worthy but not World Series worthy just yet.
Whichever way the season ends, we will be traveling as guests. Even if we win the 1st series of the playoffs, we land back in Philadelphia to face a very good team.
Enjoy the playoffs and cheer for the Braves but dont get all your hopes up for this years team because they still have alot of work to do before we can even compare them to the Braves team that won 14 titles.
90 game win season isnt nothing to be ashamed of but no ones catching the Phillies this year.


September 10th, 2011
7:59 am

ok I missed the game last night. Probably good to recharge my batteries. Tip of the cap to my wife for putting up with me. If I seem that irrationally negative when the closer blows one save every 26 games I am sorry. I do wonder is fredi and linebrink swap spit on occasion or are each others brother in law. Fredi stop it with the scott show. Proctor’s dead and linebrink needs CPR. I guess this means no young relievers in the playoffs?


September 10th, 2011
8:02 am

no holds barred. did tennessee have a winning DI program last year. VOLS NO VADY NOO MIDDLE TENN NOOO MEMPHIS NOOOO ROLLTIDE


September 10th, 2011
8:14 am

This is what happens when you have starters that can’t pitch more than 6 innings each outing, your bullpen is overworked. Wren has done a poor job of getting this team quality starters.


September 10th, 2011
8:17 am

Although not exactly appropriate for this site, the anti-Mitchell stuff was hilarious. Laughed until I cried… really!


September 10th, 2011
8:23 am

Manager of the year goes to Kirk Gibson….the Phillies are sweeping Milwaukee without Utley and Rollins in the lineup. Bourne has been great for us but Pence better for them. Lee, Halladay, Hamels,Oswalt and Worley……..they don’t need to hit!


September 10th, 2011
8:33 am

Kimbrel was rushing his pitches last night. Why did fat Fredi not take the time to calm his top gun down instead of standing over there chewing and farting??


September 10th, 2011
8:33 am

Noticing the trend as well G,

They cant pitch late. I cant rembember the last time someone pitched into the late innnings. While the Phils have 5 work horses, we got Lowe, 2 on the DL and rookies.


September 10th, 2011
8:35 am

Cold, hard facts. Baseball prospectus 98.5% chance Braves win WC.

Chris P. Bacon

September 10th, 2011
8:59 am

I’m glad DOB has remarked about how steady Dan Uggla is, never too high, never too down, no matter what.

His outlook reminds me a lot of my sister-in-law. She had a horrible case of post-partum depression and they put her on massive dosages of anti-depressants. Acted the same way as Uggla afterwards, very even keel.

She couldn’t turn on a fastball like Uggla can, though….


September 10th, 2011
8:59 am

Rmike, you can’t forget we lost the top two guys in our rotation for significant time to injuries as a reason the Phils have blown up their lead. It wasn’t just them getting healthier.


September 10th, 2011
9:01 am



September 10th, 2011
9:06 am

I hope everyone doesn’t really think that what the players think in their head and what they say to the media are the same thing.


September 10th, 2011
9:10 am

CK didn’t seem to have “fire in his eyes’ like usual. He needs to come in angry and mean. He’ll be ok next time out. GO BRAVES now i can get to the beach for the day. Ya’ll have a good day. outta here


September 10th, 2011
9:20 am

The SIT hitting remains the biggest problem. Braves had a chance to put the game away early and could not do it. Did you guys see the stat- braves fewest runs in mlb with man on 3rd, less than two outs (132 rbis). The yanks have 100 more runs in that SIT. Discipline at the plate is terrible.

Double Zero Eight

September 10th, 2011
9:26 am

I knew it was a loss the minute Linebrink entered the
game. The Braves will not win in the playoffs due to
their consistent inability to score with RISP. The
tv announcer indicated it was the worst in MLB with
less than 2 outs.


September 10th, 2011
9:30 am

Fredi brings in LINEBRINK. As usual, that’s certain death for the Braves. Fredi is just brilliant. Doesn’t he look at Linebrink’s numbers? Can he even read? Why is Linebrink on this team? He doesn’t deserve to be on any MLB roster. He’s toast. He thinks me made good pitchs…Well, they have been good enough for a .375 average against, his last 13 outings. (Truly, I thought the average against was even higher.) Two things we can say about seeing Scott Linebrink in a game: The Braves are already down 10 runs late in the game, OR they’re ABOUT to lose a close one. Linebrink is the biggest instant loser in baseball. He’s no better than Proctor was.
Keep bringing him in, Fredi. It would appear that between the two of you, you have the ability to manage the Braves right out of the playoffs.

hawk TN

September 10th, 2011
9:30 am

I believe kimbrel deliberately walked 2 to get to pujols so he could show off against pujols and it backfired big time


September 10th, 2011
9:36 am

Less coffee and more cough syrup for the bullpen tonight!


September 10th, 2011
9:39 am

This reminds me of last night:

They just don’t give up!


September 10th, 2011
9:41 am

I hate to say it but this is now looking like the choke is on. Every night someone has the chance to step up and win the game and they wilt under pressure. The starters can only go 5 innings and the bullpen is fading fast.Hitters take turns seaving runners on third with less than 2 outs. With Lowe and a bunch of rookies pitching, and the hitters feeling the pressure, we could see an epic collapse. Finishing 8-9 does not look very easy the way things are going with the Cards and Phillies still on the schedule. If we have 3 with the Phillies left with a 1 or 2 game lead watch how the pressure effects these guys, who are reeling at the moment


September 10th, 2011
9:45 am

The only thing the Braves need to practice before the playoffs:

Golf Tips & Etiquette : How to Clean Golf Clubs


September 10th, 2011
9:53 am

The sooner the Braves put Lowe and Linebrink on the bus out of town, tthe better they will be. Signing Lowe to a multi year contract was about as when ted turner Messerschmidt and the Mad Hungarian To big contracts to start the mad rush to big contracts in the sports world. It is amazing at what stupidity is in the front offices of the sports world!!

Choke Masters

September 10th, 2011
10:05 am

We got our 84 wins I predicted.



Felipe Alou

September 10th, 2011
10:20 am

Who would have thought that, at this point in the season, our four BEST starters would be Beachy, Minor, Delgado, and Teheran?

Dennis Reynolds

September 10th, 2011
10:21 am

Thanks, Fredi, for all those situations early in the year up by 4 when you decided to use Venters. Im pretty sure everyone on this blog called it. By the time it really counts, he’d be fatigued. I guess were going to have to get “Linebrinked” every night now. Great managing.

David O'Brien

September 10th, 2011
10:23 am

DOB: It is sad to hear a comment like our manager made that it “could almost be good that he blows one before postseason” — Stinger2

You either didn’t read what was written carefully at all before commenting, or you did and chose to twist the quote into something that wasn’t actually said in order to make your point. Because Fredi never said anything even remotely like what you said.

That was my question to Fredi, not his response. If anything, he was humoring me a bit with his response, which began with “I don’t know” when his tone said he [Fredi] had more important things to think about than that.


September 10th, 2011
10:33 am

It was refreshing to see Chipper make such a valiant effort at that grounder that went by him in the 9th inning. He almost bent his legs.

It is a miracle he didn’t pull a muscle the way he waved at that ball when it went by. He could at least pretend to try.

Why don’t they sub in someone with at least decent defensive skills when the game is on the line?

Nellie Wilson

September 10th, 2011
10:43 am

My cousin Willie Nelson wants to sing for the Braves. Wanna hear “The Party’s Over”? Great song, and appropriate.

The Abs Man

September 10th, 2011
10:46 am

DOB: Once again, thank you and really appreciate your blog.

But how do you not ask about choice of worthless non-productive Linebrink in a 3-3 game? I suffered a stroke at age 59 last May, and my pitches have better movement than Linebrink.


September 10th, 2011
10:49 am

impressive uggla, 250 hitter with mediocre fielding skills, impressive only for a mediocre writer….
i laughed when i saw proctor blow a yankees game,couldn’t umderstand what cashman must be thinking, then we serve up linebrinker and FG does it again, as i have said FG won’t win you any games, but he’ll lose you 6-10 a year;here’s another one. Linebrink,tip your cap-shut up

Hey DOB, get off your “impressive butt”review recent games and come up with a number for the STUPID things FG has done…..

@BBart, couldn’t agree more, but that would take a thoughtful manager, read “men at work” ( george will) and you’l realize that the guy in the
opossing dugout is leagues up on our bafoon

David O'Brien

September 10th, 2011
11:01 am

For those who need/want to be talked off ledge, I’ll try: If Braves go 8-9 rest of way, Cardinals would need to go 15-3 to tie. If Braves go 7-10, Cards would have go 14-4.

Keep in mind, Cardinals’ remaining schedule includes a four-game series at Philly.

The Abs Man

September 10th, 2011
11:01 am

Ever since witnessing Milwaukee beat host Yankees in 1957 as 4-year-old, been avid Braves fan. Tried to hold bat high and back behind my head like Aaron from little league through college. Listened when Torre’s two solo homers wasted in ‘66 Atlanta lidlifter lost, 3-2 in 10 innings. Literally watched, listened attended countless games.
In more than 50 years, never ever seen a dumber rock than Fredi. Tragic.

David O'Brien

September 10th, 2011
11:06 am

alex, regarding your 10:49 comment: Thanks for the participation. We’ll keep doing our thing, and you keep coming back, you hear? (Oh, wait, sorry about that. It’s you that tells everyone what to do. My bad.)

Anyway, thanks for the clicks.


September 10th, 2011
11:07 am

I love the Braves win or lose. I wil always pull for them until the last out of the season, not matter how good or bad they are playing. Really like the team they have on the field right now. Unfortunately the Cardinals have a much easier schedule for the balance of the season, and I think they will win the wild card. I hope I am dead wrong! We have two more against the Cards, three more against the Phillies, and then we play the Nationals, who just have our number. We are going to have to get some serious help from the teams the Cardinals have left on their schedule in order to win Wild Card and get in the playoffs.

El Bravo

September 10th, 2011
11:08 am

Most of the fans on this blog are really special. They seem to fall under to categories: serial whiners or torch carrying haters. Kimbrel had not blown a save in half a season and some of you sit here whining about the “cap-tipping”. Others want to throw the manager under the bus when the team still has a 6+ lead on the wild card. If anything, this manager held the team together while our off-season acquisition (Uggla) did his best Rafael Bellliard imitation (and I’m being kind to Uggla with that comparison). And then he held the team together through injuries to McCann + Chipper and the slumps of Prado and Heyward. Now he is making do without his two best starters of the first half. Finally, his bullpen rocks are starting to show some wear. And still a 6+ lead. You people need to chill and appreciate a good race and let them finish out the season. I’m still pretty confident that we will make the post-season and after that all bets are off on a short series….


September 10th, 2011
11:10 am

Unfortunately the Braves when challenged, appear to be perfectly capable of sinking to the lowest expectations and challenge the record books for blowing the biggest lead in the standings. I doubt they’ll blow the big lead but I don’t doubt that they will make it much too interesting for the teams behind them.

This organization, while successful over the years in the regular season, seems mentally challenged upon entering the postseason. They are the poster children for “can’t handle success”.


September 10th, 2011
11:11 am

Why isn’t Fredi playing Constanza…who got the Braves going on the winning streak? Put him in the two hole with a hot hitting Chipper behind them. There will be few double-plays hit into with Bourn and Constanza behind each other…and it will be easier for Bourn to steal 2nd with a left -handed bat in the box. Fredi batted Constanza second in one or two games, but needs to try it for at least 4 or 5 straight games. Afraid we’re missing a great opportunity – it would be reminiscent of Vince Coleman and Willie McGee during the Cardinals winning years.


September 10th, 2011
11:12 am

No panic here…wildcard is in…but..write it down now…it WILL be CLOSE. cmon. Clearly this team is the best of all the national league teams that won’t win squat this year. they simply don’t play up to their ability (or purported ability). Fundamental Issue #1: a team President that calls a Wild card win a “Championship”.

David O'Brien

September 10th, 2011
11:17 am

impressive uggla, 250 hitter with mediocre fielding skills, impressive only for a mediocre writer….alex

It’s like finding a place that still sells iced-down R.C. Cola, seeing someone still quote no other stats except the overall batting average for a hitter — particular for the type of hitter that Uggla is. Thanks for the nostalgia moment, alex.


September 10th, 2011
11:19 am

Seriously, does anyone think that Fredi Gonzalez has a prayer going up against Charlie Manuel, Kirk Gibson, Ron Roenicke, Joe Girardi, Terry Francona or Jim Leyland?

Just look at the list of names above and tell me what name doesn’t fit?

Better pray for one hit shutouts like Bobby Cox got from Glavine…that’s our only hope!

Dennis Reynolds

September 10th, 2011
11:23 am

Even if we do pull this thing out (which we should do), the Brewers are white hot while meanwhile the strength of our team is faltering. You cant really expect to slug it out with the Brewers and come out on top. We have to beat them with pitching and right now I don’t think we could do that.

Dennis Reynolds

September 10th, 2011
11:28 am

Anyone backing Fredi Gonzalez at this point is either related to him or is told by their Editor-in-Chief to go easy on him for the sake of the organization.

El Bravo

September 10th, 2011
11:31 am

The Brewers are white hot yet they lost the first two to the Phillies at home. There is no shame in losing to the Phillies as we did in Philadelphia. We swept the doubleheader and we would have won last night 49 times out of 50 the way Kimbrell has been pitching. We are not playing as poorly as most here want to believe…


September 10th, 2011
11:33 am

Gearon and Ascencio could certainly be helping this team right now.

Dennis Reynolds

September 10th, 2011
11:38 am

True, El Bravo. But while were not playing all that poorly, were still not winning games we should win. Going down the stretch this is not a good sign. Were getting beat at our own game. Everyone knows our strength is the last 3 innings but lately it hasn’t worked out that way. Without looking at the numbers, I feel like we’ve owned the Brewers for at least the past 2 years. I feel good about facing them in the first round, but with the way they’re playing, I think the team that goes into the series the hottest will win. The teams confidence must be taking a hit every night here lately with these games that just seem to sneak away.


September 10th, 2011
11:39 am

DOB- I’m with you on the numbers, Braves will get in. That’s not what concerns me. It’s what they’ve got once the playoffs start, that’s the issue. Brian needs to pay his brother another visit btw.


September 10th, 2011
11:46 am

TV off when Fredi brings in LINEBRINK. Fredi needs someone to coach his pitchers and someone to tell him when to make a change. He just has no clue…………..


September 10th, 2011
11:51 am

It is disheartening to see the manager’s mismanagement blow a game. 2 runs up and 2 outs in the ninth. Kimbrel clearly did not have it last night. (You play the games “one game at a time” I hear). No matter what has happened in the past, when the pitcher doesn’t have it, he doesn’t have it. Go out and at least talk to him, calm him down. Or where the heck was Eric? And why wasn’t this question asked of FG? Frankly, no pitcher is going to be solid every time out and this was Kimbrel’s turn. I fault FG for failiing to realize this. (Like Cox, he manages too much on “hope” rather than reality).
Next, Linebrink? Really? After what we’ve watched? Chipper would be a better choice for pitching than Linebrink. And I believe we had several other choices at this point. Terrible decision-making by your manager here.
And why oh why does Heyward get to play over Constanza? This really is shades of Cox. Bat George in the two hole and slip Chipper to third. Bourn gets on and Constanza moves him over. Or Constanza gets on and moves up. Oh, and when does FG turn these two loose on the bases? Bourn
gets 4 hits and 0 SB?
Frustrating. Players play how they play each night. Manager’s job is to pay attention and put them in position to succeed. This is not happening and I fear will be the end of this Braves team, if not in WC then early in playoffs.
How about this suggestion. Wren do your job. Get rid of FG today. He’s not getting it done.


September 10th, 2011
11:55 am

Let’s put the troubles where they belong. Lifelong Braves fan here. I do not think any Brave dogs it. I feel sorry for them and all the fans. You see we have team that is so loaded with talent that my goldfish, Hermie, could manage them to 92 wins.

Let’s face it. They say a manger can’t do that much to win games but they sure can demoralize a team and lose you games if they make consistently – CONSISTENTLY – wrong moves. Fredi is the worst baseball tactician I have ever seen. One good sized example of MANY – . I mean let’s pitch to Kemp? Geez, then we had to listen to our announcer homers tell us how Fredi may have had them pitch to Kemp to see how they could handle it? GEEEEZ. I tell you how to “learn how to handle” the pressure – YOU WALK KEMP. All you learned pitching to Kemp was that you are fool to pitch to him in that situation.

How many losses has Fredi’s bad decisions, his atrocious use of the bullpen costs us?

How about Joe Simpson always ALWAYS talking about how the starters need to go deeper into the game? I got news for him, Fredi isn’t going to let them. Koufax could have a two hitter going in the 6th and Fredi would pull him. He over manages and his decisions are simple, atrocious.
I mean the first three months of the season we heard Fredi say EVERY day how he was going to use Venters less. hahah

I got a question. Since he likes to OVER manage so much, why didn’t Fredi come out and say something to Kimbrel about the FACT that he was rushing his pitches. A child could have seen but the over managing Fredi sits in the dugout when it counts.

I laughed and laughed when Fredi praised La Roussa’s use of his bullpen. Fredi has as good bullpen as there is but if you pull starters as soon as the 6th comes around – over the years you WILL lose it.

I knew we were in for it when after weeks of poor base stealing attempts a couple months ago I read that Pendleton had session with players on base stealing. MY lord Pendleton is your base stealing coach!

Here’s a question one of you sportswriters can ask Constanza. Remember when Constanza was picked off first by Kershaw – caught flat footed? Ask him if before the game against Kershaw if the coaches showed him video of Kershaw’s move? Ask him. I bet a dollar to doughnut the over managing Fredi and his staff did not.

I feel sorry for the team. They have to know by now this man can’t manage his way out of a paper bag, I really think he STILL think Linebrink is a viable choice in a close game.

Anyway, the Braves are in for a lot of sad times until they realize this man, as good of a person as he is, is a very poor managerial tactician. He shows it over and over. Don’t come in and tell me how we are going to the playoffs so all is good – they could win the series with this team in spite of the roadblocks Fredi throws up for them. Unless he is just in the most brain-dead situations he will blow the post season and then tell the writers how “tough” it is out there.

At least Bobby Cox saved his poor decision making for the playoffs. Fredi is a daily event.

We now know that there was a reason the Marlins let him go.

The Abs Man

September 10th, 2011
11:57 am

Dennis Reynolds

September 10th, 2011
11:28 am
Anyone backing Fredi Gonzalez at this point is either related to him or is told by their Editor-in-Chief to go easy on him for the sake of the organization.

This, without question, most meaningful and accurate post of the day.

Plus, kudos to Nashvillewill. ou make valid points.

The Abs Man

September 10th, 2011
12:02 pm

Thank you Fonzischeme: Your vent a solid rope to the gap.


September 10th, 2011
12:06 pm

Braves had some chances early to get some runs and didnt..don’t pen this on the kid. It’s a team effort, Kimbrel should have not even had to be pitching in the ninth if the Braves do their job early on with the bases loaded and other runners in scoring position. Kimbrel is not superman and was going to have an outing like this sooner or later. I personally felt Freeman should have been playing almost on the line in that situation with it being late in a game and Pujois up…….thats just me though. If we can snatch a win in the next two we stll leave here 6.5 up and only lose 1 game with then 15 to play. if the Cards play out of their ass and we meltdown after that then you just have to tip you hat to the Cards if they catch us with those odds. No need to panic but we need to take at least one if not both of these remaining games here….not going to be easy..hopefully when we get back home we can get some momentum going and clinch then bring on the Brew crew.


September 10th, 2011
12:36 pm

DOB – “Could it almost be good for him to blow one before postseason, rather than go in with a 45-game scoreless streak and so much accompanying attention?”

This is possibly the dumbest, most homerish statement I have ever read. Ya Dave, it is better for him to blow a save against the team on our heels then to not blow one the rest of the year… R u kidding me? Thats almost as bad as Joe Simpson making the “well prado is slumping because he has had to change how he hits now in the two hole, behind Bourn” – another ridiculous homer statement

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