Braves quotes after Monday loss to Phillies

***FREDI GONZALEZ

On the loss and Cliff Lee’s performance

“We make a play here and there, it might have been a little different. But for me, Cliff Lee, you’ve got to tip your hat tonight. He was dotting all his pitches, commanding both sides of the plate…. He was solid. He was very good tonight.”

“You can’t do much about that one. Other than make a couple of those plays behind D-Lowe there, might be a little different game. But at the end of the night, Cliff was pretty darn good.”

On Moylan’s perfect inning in first appearance since back surgery

“That was good. We tried to get him an inning there some place, get him back in the swing of things, and he did a nice job retiring all those three hitters.”

Is Lowe’s inconsistency a concern?

“Not really. You wish a better outcome for him all the time. But for me, he’s always a pitch a way here, you make a play there… If we make a play there, Martin comes up with that ball and Gonzo with that in-betweener, he gives you six, seven solid innings. That’s the way it seems to be going when it doesn’t go good for him, that type of thing.”

“The good thing tonight was, we got Peter in the game, get him back in there, that’s a positive, and we’ll go on to tomorrow.”

***DEREK LOWE

On his performance and the loss

“There were some times where you felt like you could have got out of innings. But, I mean, Cliff Lee was some kind of special, and I knew once we got down even 2-nothing in the first inning, the way he pitched in the month of August he was going to pretty much shut it down from there.”

“It just seemed like it didn’t happen. It was just a unforgettable game in every aspect. You can say that they whipped our tails.”

On losing series opener

“You’re coming into a series where the first game’s always important, and it was just a sluggish start, giving them two early runs. Then they pecked away, had some good at-bats, pitch count was up there in the 100s… Again, give them all the credit. They dominated every aspect of the game. Sometimes you’ve just got to give other people credit, too. It’s not always that you pitched or hit poorly. Sometimes it’s that you just got outplayed.”

On Philly lineup with Pence added

“He’s given me trouble this year, there’s no doubt about it. But yeah, he lengthens their lineup out. They’ve got a good – hell, they’ve got 90 wins or whatever they’ve got. Let’s not sit here and say this was a fluke. They’ve been doing this all year long.

“Especially against a team like this, you’ve got to keep it close for as long as you possibly can. You give them any room to breathe and it’s going to be a long night.”

More on his performance

“You feel confident every time out. I’m not having the greatest of years I’ve ever had, but we’ll just keep going.”

***PETER MOYLAN

On his first appearance since April 14 (May back surgery)

“You obviously want it to be in a game the Braves won, but for me personally, this could have been the seventh game of the World Series with the adrenaline I had going. It’s nice to get through an inning and feel OK.”

“I hung a changeup to Pence and gave him a gift. But that’ll just be time and repetition, once I get out there a few more times and get the feel for everything, I’ll do a lot better. But I was happy.”

***MICHAEL BOURN

On Cliff Lee

“The best thing about him was that he had his fastball working to both sides of the plate. Off-speed was good, but you can’t hit off a pitcher’s off-speed. His fastball was working pretty good to both sides. We hit a couple of balls pretty good, just didn’t find any holes.”

On Phillies (Bourn played for them in ‘07)

“They’re a good team. They hit and they keep pounding away, and they’re not going to give up through nine innings. When you play against them, you’ve got to play nine innings. That’s the only way you’re going to beat them. If you play a hard nine innings, you’ve got a chance. If you don’t, they’ll scrap away till they get to the skid and just scratch through. I think we’re all right, though.”

On Pence

“I played with him, I know he’s a great hitter. He knows how to cover the plate. He’s smart about what he thinks pitchers are doing to him and he makes adjustments.”

On the loss

“We’ve just got to put this one behind us. It’s a blowout. Those don’t really hurt as bad as the ones that are close. It’s going to happen sometimes. They had good man going tonight, and they were on. But we’ve still got two games to go in the series, so we’ll come out tomorrow and be prepared.”

***DAN UGGLA

On Cliff Lee

“He’s kind of been like that all year. We played him pretty tough the first few times we faced him, but yeah, he had it going tonight. Like he has been the past couple of months. You try to keep battling and battling and hope that you can kind of keep it close, then see what happens after that.”

Why Lee was so effective

“It’s location with all his pitches. He can pretty much put any of his pitches wherever he wants, whenever he wants. There’s no real pattern that you can see from him, so you’ve just got to pretty much be ready for his fastball and make the adjustment to anything else.”

255 comments Add your comment

Stupid Suggestions

September 5th, 2011
10:51 pm

Wow. Fredi. Grow some balls and light a fire under this team! Stop with the sugar-coating.

Kimbrel rocks

September 5th, 2011
10:52 pm

wow fredi and derek are just plain DELUSIONAL where are the follow up questions when they state this stupid stupid nonsense????

Nova Scotia Steve

September 5th, 2011
10:52 pm

Chillahill

September 5th, 2011
10:53 pm

Tip your waiter. Tip a cow. Tip top. Tip of the iceberg. Tip see! But for gods sake Fredi please stop tipping your cap to the other team after every frigging loss. Enough

Go bravos!

Kimbrel rocks

September 5th, 2011
10:53 pm

fredi is about an inspiring as my mailman. he has ZERO personality and says the same thing over and over.

Kimbrel rocks

September 5th, 2011
10:54 pm

so derek lowe doesn’t think HE is the reason we got beat- he leaves with a 7-0 score and “we” just got outplayed…..i had such hope for this team but they just don’t have it

up north

September 5th, 2011
10:54 pm

Back to tipping the hat, I see.

Tom

September 5th, 2011
10:56 pm

Braves are close to full coast mode til they clinch the wild card, just hope the cardinals don’t get hot at the same time.

Kimbrel rocks

September 5th, 2011
10:57 pm

both fredi and frank wren have made it clear that they intend to ride this derek lowe train all the way off the tracks. they deserve what they get….but the fans deserve better

Cap Tipper

September 5th, 2011
10:57 pm

I completely agree with “Kimbrel Rocks”. Also, let’s not throw Lowe under the bus all by himself. The Braves defense definitely left much to be desired tonight.

Chillahill

September 5th, 2011
10:58 pm

And hows about calling a spade a spade. The ump was horrible the defense of Gonzo was pathetic. Third baseman-prado- is a major leaguer. Make that play. And its a totally different game. The Braves looked like the 12 yr old Slug nuts from Kennesaw. But the worst day in Atlanta is still better than the best day in that cess pool in fillydelphia!

Cap tipping time

September 5th, 2011
11:00 pm

the offense needs to get it together….. freeman is looking terrible.. as is mccann and prado(aside from the walkoff hit)

Disco Dicky

September 5th, 2011
11:01 pm

So Derek Lowe, why is Cliff Lee so special and dominant all while you suck pitching ? Stop tipping your cap and go out pitch better or let Teheran take your spot !

Mister Frisky

September 5th, 2011
11:02 pm

Get ready to tip your cap to the Brewers.

stoky

September 5th, 2011
11:03 pm

Freddie’s hat is so tipped now that he ought to wear it backwards… did you hear those philly fans singing the chop song? That was a disgrace. That’s our song

Kimbrel rocks

September 5th, 2011
11:04 pm

prado is seriously scary right now…don’t think i have ever seen him this bad. so not himself.

rc35

September 5th, 2011
11:06 pm

If the Braves do give a hoot, they have a funny way of showing it. I know…”It’s only April…I mean, May…I mean, June…I mean, July…I mean, August, I mean, September. We’ll start playing our best once the games matter.”

Mister Frisky

September 5th, 2011
11:07 pm

Hudson,and pray for rain.

Rey

September 5th, 2011
11:08 pm

Don’t know which is more embarrassing. This loss, or the last loss against the Mets where we also got shutout.

The good news: The way the Diamondbacks keep playing, we might end up facing them in the first round instead of the Brewers.

The bad news: Having Derek Lowe in the playoff starting rotation. Don’t know what you’re going to get with this guy from night to night.

Kimbrel rocks

September 5th, 2011
11:08 pm

@rc35- yea, i agree. for some reason, they think they are the first team in history that can simply “turn off and on” good baseball. momentum means nothing to this team or fredi

Chillahill

September 5th, 2011
11:10 pm

What about the twins – Mcann and Freeman swing at anything that comes outta the pitchers hand.
These guys are killing us the last 10 games. If the Braved are gonna win, then these two are gonna have to Pick it up a bit. Gotta hit to win especially the middle of the lineup guys!!

DontStopTheChop

September 5th, 2011
11:16 pm

Eff that game. Come out tomorrow ready to play and let’s go

Mister Frisky

September 5th, 2011
11:16 pm

FUBAR IN PHILLY.

steve brown

September 5th, 2011
11:19 pm

We need a quote from Chipper on his cold.

Eagle Eyrie

September 5th, 2011
11:20 pm

Sure am glad the Braves feel they can hang with the Phillies. They are a long way from proving it today. Maybe tomorrow.

Wink

September 5th, 2011
11:21 pm

I believe Chipper needs to keep quiet if he is not going to be in the lineup. He gave them bulletin board material when he said the Braves have had success against them and are not scared of the Phillies, which is good, but you got to back it up! They hung a nine spot on them and shut them out, while playing horrble defense! Just play the games Chipper!!!!

Who Me?

September 5th, 2011
11:22 pm

How many ways can you say “We Suck” without saying “we suck”?? i see you guys picked up on the tip o the hat BS again. This lame-as* milktoast managing style pisses me off. The Phillies aren’t the ones reading their press, we are!! Get off your fat butts and go play some baseball you losers!

I’m fed up with this team’s attitude and the whole team’s lack of offense is disgusting. What’d we have, about 3 weeks of solid team hitting and then everyone starting to figure out its the other guys job to get me home so I don’t have to try hard anymore.

This is a bunch of individuals who happen to be on the same team, not a Team as we know it. How about someone standing up and saying to the rest of the team “I’m fed up with this crap and I’m not going to take it from you clowns anymore”? Where’s the leadership from McCann and Jones huh?

Wanna know why the Atlanta Braves fans don’t sell out the stadium like the Phillies every night? Because the Phillies give a rats behind that’s why. You start playing hardnosed baseball like they do and the fans will come back in droves. Arrrrrrrrggg. I’m sick of this “its just another game” attitude. Grow some melon sized nuts and earn your fat paychecks you bums….

Him Tudson

September 5th, 2011
11:23 pm

Braves have one pitcher who wins consistently right now…and D-Lowe ain’t it.

pdw

September 5th, 2011
11:23 pm

The big question is who the hell are we going with as a starting pitcher in the playoffs? Jurjens looks to be out for the year, Lowe can’t locate his pitches, Hanson is injured.. we’d have better luck throwing beachy and Hudson out there every night. No these games don’t decide who goes to the postseason, but confidence and momentum can determine how we perform there. Lets get it going tomorrow!

Him Tudson

September 5th, 2011
11:24 pm

@ Who Me — While I agree with your sentiment, you have to remember that the Phils have a MUCH bigger payroll than the Bravos. I don’t think simply being “hardnosed” would equalize the likes of Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay.

Edo River

September 5th, 2011
11:27 pm

DOB, Good of you to get these kind of quotes, win or lose. That’s your job. Second I think sometimes we can learn something from these quotes about the game in general. Third, inside the loss it was good for Peter to get going. Fourth, I really winced when Philly landed Pence, I gathered from the stats what kind of player he would bring to that lineup in Philly. They are really an awesome team right now, IF they are in the WS I hope its against the Yankees, and I hope Philly stomps ‘em.

Who Me?

September 5th, 2011
11:29 pm

I can agree with that Him but its the lack of effort that makes me sick…you don’t have to have Cliff Lee’s and Roy Halladays to pick each other up and expend the effort to make yourself a better player every day. You don’t see that on this team with the exception of maybe Prado and Chipper to a degree. It wouldn’t hurt FG to hold people accountable from time to time and call a spade a spade. Lowe sucks right now, do I have to point out why he’s looked good the last 3 outings? You can NOT afford to just blow off these games when you get down by 3 runs or more, and that certainly looks like what FG did tonight.

tmoney

September 5th, 2011
11:32 pm

You’re all missing the main point. The Phillies are a much better team than the Braves.

Rob

September 5th, 2011
11:34 pm

Unbelievable. So now we’ve gotten to the point of the annointing of the Phillies that even the umps are drinking the Kool Aid. I watched the whole game and Lowe’s location was as good if not better than Lee’s. But pitches that were strikes in the top half of the inning were balls in the bottom. Disgusting.

Still, despite the fact that the Braves were fighting the Phillies and the umps, the Braves STILL looked like the best team on the field. At just about every position, the Braves are the superior team — but it’s too tough to beat a team when the umps are calling a different game than the one that was being played. Even that Ruiz call in the 4th was bogus — it looks like McCann got him before he got in.

Come on AJC — do your job! Start calling out the umps for their bias!

I agree and disagree with Chipper — yes the Braves will beat the Phillies in the NLCS (assuming the Phillies can even get that far) and no, the division is still not out of reach. Take the next two (pretty much done since Worley and Oswalt will be pitching for the Phillies — I’m not sure either one of them should be starters at this point), pile up the wins down the road and that last series of the season will loom large!

Go Braves!

Brandon

September 5th, 2011
11:38 pm

in reality, derek lowe pitched a pretty decent game. there is no way in HELL that that 0-2 pitch to pence shouldve been called a ball. if umpire makes the right call, we get out of that inning still no score. Also, without Gonzo’s error and Prado’s lack of defense at 3rd, derek lowe gets out of that inning unscathed. say what you want, but d lowe did not pitch a bad game. he just had a lot of bad luck. phillies simply outplayed the braves. tip your hat to lee. he’s only given up 2 runs since the start of august.

Cap Tipper

September 5th, 2011
11:39 pm

@Who Me: What makes you think Fredi isn’t holding people accountable? What makes you think the leaders of the team aren’t calling their teammates out? Maybe they’re just doing it behind closed doors the way it SHOULD be done. I don’t expect a manager to do an interview and say “Yeah, our starting pitcher sucked and our lineup was sh** tonight.” He has to publicly have their backs. That’s what managers do. Now when the cameras and reporters are gone I’m sure Fredi has a lot to say….at least I hope.

DaveinNEPA

September 5th, 2011
11:41 pm

NO excuses for this one. Quite simply, the Braves didn’t bother to show up!!!

Kimbrel rocks

September 5th, 2011
11:43 pm

starting rotation playoffs
1.hudson
2. beachy
3. minor
4. lowe (if needed)

hudson has always been the one to stop the bleeding when the braves are down…i fully expect him to pitch well. the key is getting through the 1st inning we’ll see

kevkat

September 5th, 2011
11:44 pm

I’m sorry to say but sinker ball pitchers pitching with Prado at third is a horrible combination. He is not even average at third..Jack Wilson would have been better…and Fredi has no balls and will never light a fire under this team..in fact, a fire needs to be lit under his butt..

Phillies fan

September 5th, 2011
11:44 pm

Is that the best you guys got? In the last 2 meetings between the teams the Phillies have outscored the Braves 23-1, hahahahaha.

Mitchell

September 5th, 2011
11:44 pm

Dan Uggla is not exactly a fair representative to speak about Cliff Lee’s performance this evening.

Let’s just stick with Brian McCann from now on.

nashvillewill

September 5th, 2011
11:45 pm

We keep finding out the same things over and over with this team: Lowe is inconsistent, Linebrink and Vizcaino will give up runs, the Braves are not great hitters, FG is not an inspiring or talented manager of personnel. Braves may get hot at right time in playoffs, but consistency your name is Philadelphia. Of course, $ helps build that consistency and that is another Braves given – 1/2 the payroll of the Phils.
I do think once Lowe is gone and JJ/Hanson is resolved Braves may have best and deepest pitching in baseball for the future. Which is why I conitnue to say, the future is now! Teheran, Minor, and Delgado as starters! Forget Lowe, Hanson, and Jurrgens.
But Braves are predictable–Lowe will remain until contract runs out: will try to resign JJ or Hanson even though both are injury-prone and future-injury-prone. Frustrating, but all we can do is complain. At least McLouth is gone and Heyward is playing less. Bourn and Constanza with stout pitching give us chances.

Rowsdower

September 5th, 2011
11:45 pm

Fredi, i’ve defended you all season, but saying Lowe was just a few plays/pitches away is absolutely insane. He got hammered. Even the outs were loud. How many times does he have to go out and get killed before you call him out? His pride won’t let him do what’s right for the team, so take the decision out of his hands. There is NO WAY you can let him pitch in the playoffs. NONE.

Good to have Moylan back. Only positive of the night. Everything else was a bloody shambles.

Seriously

September 5th, 2011
11:45 pm

@ Rob…Do you even watch baseball? Worley is 10-1 with a sub 3.00 E.R.A., yeah you’re right he shouldn’t be pitching in the majors. As for the Bravos beating the Phillies, what part of tonight’s game even remotely suggested that the Braves can beat Phillies? Stop it, seriously.

wins-by-a-link

September 5th, 2011
11:46 pm

It all goes back to the fact the Braves are owned by Liberty Media, Who bought the Braves for a tax break and admitted so, .They never intended to spend the kind of money it would take to overcome the Phillies, The Phillies went out and bought the best pitchers in the game and tonight was a good example of how money affects the outcome of games, The Braves will face the Brewers in the first round of play-offs on the road and the Brewers have the best home record in MLB, Can the Braves beat the Brewers? Possible but not likely.

Mister Frisky

September 5th, 2011
11:48 pm

The scrubs coming through yesterday sparing us from a four game skid.As Von Trapp would say this offense is like the Wermacht at Stalingrad.Frozen and stuck in the mud.

kevkat

September 5th, 2011
11:49 pm

Kimbrel rocks…I agree with your playoff rotation..however, what concerns me about Beachy is he doesn’t seem to adjust after the first time through the order and falls apart around the fifth inning..and Minor’s mistakes usually come early in games and with the pressure of playoff games, it could make both pitcher’s short comings worse…but I still say that’s the best rotation we have at the moment.

Kimbrel rocks

September 5th, 2011
11:51 pm

@winsbyalink- you’re right let’s not pretend we are on equal footing financially with the phillies. money is the real reason they have this record and team. money doesn’t guraentee success but it makes it a lot easier to win games when you have 3 cy young candidates pitching 75% of your games. braves are doing great. just not playing well right now. so streaky

Rafael

September 5th, 2011
11:53 pm

ANOTHER HUGE EMBARRESSMENT on NATIONAL TV when Derek “KAWAKAMI” pitches.

Lowe’s career “took a step backward” MONTHS ago. Lowe WAS “known as a strong late-season and playoff performer.” Those days are LONG GONE… the economy was in great shape the LAST time Lowe pitched well.

The headlines are always “Lowe Struggles” when he pitches now. THANK YOU Frank Wren (firefrankwren.com) for ADDING that 4th year (2012) at 15 million. Frank, have you EVER heard of a club option or buyout clause in a contract???!!!!

The most TERRIFYING matter is that Fredi WILL use Lowe and Scott “Proctor” Linebrink in the Playoffs!!!!!! Forget about Derek “Kawakami” Lowe for a minute, WHY is Scott “Proctor” Linebrink STILL pitching in the majors???!!!!

Derek “Kawakami” Lowe, WHERE is Dr. Kevorkian WHEN you NEED him???!!!

Yeah, Matt “Lugo” Diaz sure “rakes lefthanders.” Matty’s defense is stellar too. Diaz, Lowe, and Linebrink are ALL washed-up BUMS and we “got em” folks.

PeachTree3

September 5th, 2011
11:55 pm

I don’t understand all the posts attacking Philly as a city. I lived in both cities, I love Atlanta, but the people who trash Philly must have never been there. Great history, arts and restaurants. I’m a Braves fan, but you make us look ignorant when you say these things about Philly. Stick to the sports Braves fans! Atlanta is great city, but so is Philly!

Jim

September 5th, 2011
11:56 pm

Lee pitched just like that Dodger rookie we didnt have a chance to win that one niether.Thats the way the Brewers pitchers will be pitching in the playoffs.

MJ

September 5th, 2011
11:57 pm

I want some of what Rob is smoking!

Rob

September 5th, 2011
11:58 pm

@ Seriously

First — I do watch baseball. In Worely I see a young pitcher who gets by on the fact that teams haven’t broken him down a lot yet. From the Phillies I’ll give you two examples — Kyle Kendrick and J.A. Happ. Both looked like studs in their first full year in the majors and then started to fall apart when teams really started to take a hard look at them. Kendrick isn’t even in the Phillies rotation anymore and Happ was shipped off to Houston. I also watched Worely get shelled by the Mets earlier this year and beaten up by the Dodgers (and was bailed out by the offense). I’m not sold on Worley’s location of pitches or the speed of his pitches. I just think he’s getting very lucky because teams don’t have a good book on him yet.

As for the game tonight, it was handed to the Phillies on a silver platter by the umps. Brandon brings up the 0-2 pitch to Pence — perfect example. That should have been a strike. For Lee pitches like that were called strikes. But you just can’t win the game when the ump is consistenly calling balls for the Braves and strikes for the Phillies. The strike zone was flexing all night long.

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
12:00 am

Jim, the Brewers don’t have anyone that can touch Cliff Lee. Gallardo, Marcum and Greinke are all inconsistant. The Brewers mash. That’s their calling card. If we pitch at all we will win that series.

MJ

September 6th, 2011
12:01 am

@wins-by-a-link, the Phillies did not BUY crap. Their lineup is made up of all draft picks and a trade for Pence and their starters are draft picks and trades…Lee is the only free agent they went out and so called bought. We gave up a ton of talent to put this team together.

Mister Frisky

September 6th, 2011
12:05 am

Beachy and Minor have been very good.But not playoff good.Three runs in six innings is fine during the season.In the playoffs Hudson is the only pitcher that can get to the seventh or eighth inning giving up two runs or less.The hunt for next October.

PeachTree3

September 6th, 2011
12:05 am

Seriously Rob? Now the umps are trying to hold us down? Stop the madness Braves fans and wake up! Phillies are just a better team. Stop the crying and whining! You sound ridiculous. Give them their props and we’ll see them in NLCS.

Stupid Suggestions

September 6th, 2011
12:08 am

Don’t chalk this or any other loss up to the Phillies payroll. The Giants owned them last year in the NLCS with a significantly smaller payroll. The difference is the fire that the Giants had in their bellies is nowhere to be found in the Braves. It’s not too late, though.

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
12:10 am

@MJ – I disagree. You have some homegrown talent, but saying the entire lineup are draft picks is wrong. Polanco, Ibanez, Victorino and Pence are all imports.

Halladay, Lee & Oswalt are all imports. Whether you signed them as free agents or traded for them you wouldn’t have all those guys if you didn’t have a $180M payroll.

The Phillies are playing within the rules established by MLB. It isn’t a fair system, but it is what it is. Just don’t get high and mighty when comparing the Braves and Phillies. Apples and oranges. The only comparison is that both are going to the playoffs.

Ragweed

September 6th, 2011
12:13 am

Is it an understatement to say that the team is composed of a bunch of never has been’s, and never wil be’s

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
12:14 am

No, Ragweed, it’s a stupid statement.

Mitchell

September 6th, 2011
12:21 am

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
12:00 am

Jim, the Brewers don’t have anyone that can touch Cliff Lee. Gallardo, Marcum and Greinke are all inconsistant. The Brewers mash. That’s their calling card. If we pitch at all we will win that series.

Yeah, I don’t know.

Greinke may be a little overrated but Marcum is at the very least underrated and all Gallardo has done to us is make Cliff Lee look like D-Lowe.

MJ

September 6th, 2011
12:22 am

@Rowsdower, please read what I said before you post. I mentioned the players that we traded for and gave up the farm many times over. As far as top line free agents, we signed one, Cliff Lee. Maybe if more so called Brave fans would actually go to the game rather then sit and post on a blog, then the Braves could afford to pay players.

brave braverson

September 6th, 2011
12:24 am

gotta love the no life philly fan trying to start stuff on a braves blog. didnt you guys just lose 2 in a row to the marlins? hahahaha

JAFO

September 6th, 2011
12:24 am

Kimbrel Rocks- right on brother. It’s the same drool after every loss. Can anyone see fg as a leader and someone that inspires. You have to feel for prado. all the position changes and the dl have clearly had an impact. He’s not the same guy. Lowe brings utley of out of long slump. Weak defense. With our starting pitching in disarray, anyone, including chipper, that thinks we match-up, is suffering delusions of grandeur.

MJ

September 6th, 2011
12:25 am

Didn’t we just blast your Braves right off the field? HAHA

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
12:28 am

@MJ – I read what you said, and I disproved it. Again, you don’t have all those guys on a MLB average payroll. It just doesn’t work. Not a slight, just a fact.

@Mitchell – The entire league has been waiting for Gallardo to be the Cy Young caliber pitcher he is earmarked to be. It still hasn’t happened because he is inconsistent. Case in point, he threw a 2 hitter against us and gave up 5 in 5 innings this season. Inconsistent. The Braves have beaten their top starters, so i’m confident they can do it again. My point was they can’t touch Halladay and Lee.

Rey

September 6th, 2011
12:29 am

@ Stupid Suggestions,

Unfortunately, the 2011 Phillies are vastly superior to the 2010 Phillies (+ Cliff Lee and Hunter Pence). It would take fire in the belly + a great deal of luck to beat what could possibly be the most lethal starting pitching rotation in the history of baseball. And the offense aint to shabby either. However, I do believe that if the Braves can get Hanson back in peak form, they could make things pretty interesting in the playoffs.

Chippers ailing body

September 6th, 2011
12:30 am

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Chippers ailing body

September 6th, 2011
12:33 am

i efen hate filtty philly fans doing the chop!!!! efen fat cheese steak sandwich eating peaces of monkey crap!!!!! anyone know what happen to heywards swing talk about epic dissapointment

MIdtown

September 6th, 2011
12:34 am

The other guy pitched great, and lately he’s been doing it to everybody, not just the Braves. He’s got six shutouts this season. Apparently when he is on, he is pretty tough to hit.

Give some credit instead of blowing up on your own team and your manager.

Chippers ailing body

September 6th, 2011
12:37 am

im confused heyward always goes up to plate with no bat. well its seems like he does with that looppy roll me over outside fastballs!!!!say it with me adjuuuuusssstmmennt!!!

MJ

September 6th, 2011
12:37 am

@Rowsdower, Start going to the games so the Braves can generate revenue instead of whining about what other teams can afford to spend. If you fill that stadium, it means more money to spend. And I will take the Brewers over the Braves in the NLDS, 3-1.

Noone, Alot, Loosers, Than, Then & To Much

September 6th, 2011
12:39 am

Fredi’s comments got me so excited my wife told me I had to sleep alone tonight.

Chippers ailing body

September 6th, 2011
12:39 am

shut up mldtown i compliment one team and one team only Braves!!!! ffffuuuu%%kkkkk philly

Chief Fan

September 6th, 2011
12:39 am

Cliff Lee is one of the elite pitchers in baseball (even though a lot of posters were diminishing him earlier on this blog). Getting shut out by him is no disgrace. It’s what’s happened to a few teams this year. Now there’s a new game tomorrow.

Bravado

September 6th, 2011
12:39 am

Tip of the cap Midtown!

Phillyroni

September 6th, 2011
12:40 am

Rows@
Please Stop whinnin and just admit that
A. Phillies are better team ( how many “homegrown”players do the Braves have?)
B. If Atlanta was 1/2 the city Philly is your attendance wouldn’t rival that of our triple A team.
C. Spend some money to go to games and maybe your front office would have some to spend.
D. You guy are the most negative fans imaginable,, this whole blog is one big whine. ( you have the second best team [3rd maybe] in the league and all you guys (girls?) do is whine.
E. You sound SSOO ridiculous whinning about the umpire,, if you actually watched the game you saw that the umpire was missing strikes on both sides.

BOO HOO The Phillies are better than the Braves,, live with it.

NorCal Brave

September 6th, 2011
12:45 am

The only area where we have the edge on the Phillies is our big three in the bullpen, and they don’t even come into play in games like these. You can say all you want about the strength of our lineup on paper, but the Phils consistently crank out runs, with everybody in their lineup taking turns contributing.
B-Mac has been called the best catcher in baseball, but has done zilch since coming off DL. Martin admits he’s lost his swing. I won’t get started on the onetime phenom in right field. Wren appeared to make all the right moves to fill in the gaps; too bad more gaps have cropped up.

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
12:47 am

@MJ – I live in Austin, Texas. Your point doesn’t really apply to me. I still make it out there for several games a year.

@Phillyroni –

A. I know the Phillies are a better team. Never said they weren’t. (McCann, Freeman, Chipper, Constanza, Heyward, Prado, Beachy, Hanson, Minor, Kimbrel, Venters, etc…more than Philly)
B. The Braves have a national fan base (see above).
C. I do and I don’t even live in Georgia much less Atlanta
D. Pretty bold statement. Also, I didn’t whine, I spoke my mind about how much Lowe sux. Pretty easy case to make.
E. I never once mentioned umpiring jackass, so please associate your quotes to the right person.

The Phillies are the best team in baseball. You still have to prove it in the playoffs…

Phillies fan

September 6th, 2011
12:48 am

lol @ all you guys whining about the Phillies payroll.

You had no problem with payroll discrepancy when the Braves used to have double the payroll of the Phillies in the 9o’s.

Phillies fans sell that place out every game and that allows the team to spend the $$ despite not having a robust TV contract.

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
12:48 am

I meant to remove Constanza, but you get the point.

MJ

September 6th, 2011
12:49 am

B-Mac may be one of the better catchers on offense, I think Chooch is superior defensively and calling a game. I will take him anyday over B-Mac.

MJ

September 6th, 2011
12:51 am

LMAO at Rowsdower. You are the Braves national fan base! Once again, lmao!

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
12:51 am

Hey, look…another Phillies fan that doesn’t know the difference between facts and whining. Shocking.

What’s really funny is that the Braves will be competing in the same playoffs as the Phillies for the 2nd year in a row with that “payroll discrepency.” How many times did the Phillies make it to the playoffs when the Braves had “double the payroll?”

Stupid Suggestions

September 6th, 2011
12:52 am

@Phillyroni

F. Your life is so pathetic that you are trolling an opposing team’s blog at 12:40 am and making foolish, 1st-grade-level statements. “My team is better than your team. My city is better than your city. Girls have cooties!”

panamajack

September 6th, 2011
12:53 am

My Prayer: Dear god please put D Lowe on the DL along with JJ and Hanson and keep all of them there until this season is over. I don’t want them hurt seriously but just until the end of the season so we can go with a rotation of Hudson, Beachy, Minor, Delgado and Teheran.

Ahhh men.

MJ

September 6th, 2011
12:54 am

@Rowsdower, well the one time we did make to the playoffs(93), we beat up on your Braves.

welikebaseball2

September 6th, 2011
12:54 am

If only Gonzalez would apply his “hot hand” principle when it comes to Lowe. Some of you guys had the nerve to call him brave for benching Heyward. It doesn’t take courage to bench a struggling second-year player. Courage is benching a veteran pitcher that’s stinking it up.

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
12:55 am

Yep, i’m the only one. You’re right.

Stupid Suggestions

September 6th, 2011
12:58 am

“the one time we did make to the playoffs(93), we beat up on your Braves.”

Then proceeded to lose in the world series. Kind of like last year in the NLCS. And the year before that in the WS.

nelson

September 6th, 2011
12:58 am

derek lowe u sucks ….. hey freddy que cojones te pasa , pon a derek lowe de relevo , deja de comer tanta mierda .. Freddy, is time to derek lowe of relief, not opener… in a major series as the phillies is to play an optimal game and not play like they do.

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
12:59 am

@MJ – Cherish that victory because the roles are reversed now. The Braves were the best team in baseball that year and you won the NLCS. Sometimes the best team doesn’t win in the playoffs…

Rowsdower

September 6th, 2011
1:04 am

One other note on 1993. There was no wild card then. Do you really think you would’ve beaten a 102 win Giants team AND the 103 win Braves? It’s a different game now.

brave braverson

September 6th, 2011
1:27 am

just because you beat us doesnt take away 2 losses in a row to the dead fish….. did you see pences face after they called him out? priceless. see ya in the playoffs. when it actually matters and chipper maybe doesnt have the sniffles

NickB

September 6th, 2011
2:47 am

It’s one game guys….. It’s not football where one game can dicatate you entire season… So we lost, and it sucked, we are just as likely to come out tomorrow and hang a 13 spot on them. That’s baseball. No need to get all debby downer about it

beeflat

September 6th, 2011
2:51 am

The Braves are *this close* to being a World Series team.

But sadly for Braves fans, two MUCH BETTER teams block the path, and this is as close as you’re going to get for a looooong time.

The Phillies have had your number when it comes to must-win games, and there’s no sign that they’ll ever take their foot from your neck – this team just keeps getting better, and yours merely improves over what they were – the target keeps moving, and you’re not keeping up!

The Phillies’ organization reached a tipping point a few years back, and have entered a realm previously occupied only by the Yankees and Red Sox:
1.) They can spend MUCH more money than you can, because:
2.) Every game is a sellout, and:
3.) Their minor league teams are very successful, and also feature sellout games, and provide a wealth of talent that can help the big club with players, or trade bait.
4.) Their TV contract is fat, and with continued success, will get fatter, still.
5.) The Phillies organization has outstanding management, from top to bottom, and have made their team an unqualified success.
7.) Players want to play here – it’s the best ballpark around, and the fans make the atmosphere electric most any night.
9.) The Braves offer none of the above. None.

The Phillies have what it takes to win the World Series – they’re hugely improved over 2010, and are built both for the long run (currently 41 games over .500), and for the short series, with 3 lights-out starters.

Next year, the Phillies will add whatever needs to be added, and subtract whatever needs to be subtracted – they can do that, and you can’t.

2012 will be another year of mediocre attendance, and decreasing revenues for the Braves – that “America’s Team” stuff is a figment of your imagination – it’s been gone for years, and nobody respects, or gives a rat’s rear end about non-contending also-rans.

And that image in your rearview mirror? That would be the Washington Nationals, coming up fast.

Dammed Philly Yankee

September 6th, 2011
3:51 am

‘ Bring the good old bugle boys we’ll sing another song……
Sing it with a sprit that starts the world (series) along……

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wallypip

September 6th, 2011
4:38 am

Of the eight teams that will make the MLB post-season, the Braves and the Red Sox, both wild card leaders, are playing poorly right now. I don’t think anyone who knows baseball is ready to say the Sox will not be dangerous once the playoffs start. The Braves have been listless for quite some time. Nobody but Chipper has hit with any authority for consistency for about two weeks. McCann, Freeman, Prado are all in a funk. Uggla will square up a ball every couple of games, but he’s not hitting with men on, because nobody is getting on in front of him. There’s still plenty of time to fight through the funk, but somebody’s got to get some timely hits and lead the way. I’d like to believe that that will happen, and soon, and that in a few days we’ll forget all the handwringing. Perhaps we’ll look back and say they got it out of their systems just in time, and corrected the ship at precisely the right time, got some momentum and began to dominate with their bats. Doesn’t matter who pitches in the playoffs if this offensive malaise continues. Tomorrow’s the day to start the surge!

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