Diaz returns, maybe can help Braves beat nemesis Nats

The Braves are so desperate to beat the Nationals tonight and avoid a series loss, they traded for old friend Matt Diaz and made sure he’d be here in time to face lefty John Lannan.

Matt Diaz, one of the most popular Braves during his previous stint with the team, is back after less than a season in Pittsburgh.

Matt Diaz, one of the most popular Braves during his previous stint with the team, is back after less than a season in Pittsburgh.

OK, so tonight’s matchup with Lannan wasn’t why they traded for Diaz, but lefties are in general. And maybe he can help them win a game or two against the Nats, who’ve beaten the Braves an astounding 21 times in the past 35 matchups.

Though his numbers have slipped again this season — .259 with no homers, ..303 OBP, .324 slugging percentage — Diaz is still hitting a a solid .295/.342/.362 in 105 at-bats against lefties. He’s 12-for-30 (.400) in his career against Lannan.

The Braves rank dead last in the National League in average (.227) and OBP (.296) against left-handers.

Atlanta pinch-hitters are also 12th in the NL with a .196 average, though they lead the league with eight homers. Diaz is 11-for-44 as a pinch-hitter this season.

He was a force against lefties with the Braves, batting a robust .369 with a .975 OPS against lefties during the 2007-2009 seasons, with 17 homers in 396 at-bats in that period.

In his final season with the Braves in 2010, his overall average slipped to .250, but he still hit .273 with five homers and an .830 OPS in 121 at-bats against lefties.

You may recall, the Braves let him go because his arbitration salary would have risen to a level they weren’t comfortable with, and because they had just acquired Joe Mather off waivers from St. Louis.

Mather turned out to be a bust with the Braves and was waived by early summer. Diaz got a $4.25 million, two-year deal with the Pirates, who are sending the the Braves some cash to help cover his salary. He’s making $2 mill this season and again in 2012.

The Braves will send the Pirates a player to be named later, likely from a pool of minor-league candidates the teams have agreed on. But I’m not sure about that yet.

By the way, the Braves created roster space for Diaz by placing George Sherrill on DL with left-elbow inflammation

Braves vs. Nats, head-shaking numbers: As mentioned above, the Braves are 14-21 in their past 35 games against the Nationals. This is a bit ridiculous.

Most good teams have an otherwise modest opponent who gives them unexpected amounts of trouble one season or for a few years. The Braves used to struggle mightily against the Marlins.

But this ongoing thing with the Nats has become inexplicable in its length and severity.

The Braves have struggled against a few mediocre teams this season — 6-7 against Nationals, 6-7 against the Mets, 4-5 against the Padres, 1-3 against the Dodgers. Those are the only teams they have a losing record against in more than three games, and all are sub-.500 teams.

Meanwhile, the Braves are 6-1 against defending World Series champion San Francisco, 5-3 against NL Central leader Milwaukee, 6-6 against best-record-in-baseball Philadelphia, 6-2 against Colorado, 4-2 against (somewhat) resurgent Pittsburgh, 9-3 against Florida….

Anyway, the Nats. No one is a bigger thorn in the Braves’ side than the nasty Nats.

Beginning with being swept in four games Oct. 1-4 at end of the 2008 season in Atlanta, the Braves are 11-24 against the Nationals.

The Phillies are 35-15 against the Nationals in that same period.

You might not think Lannan would dominate the Braves. But the same thing could be said of the Nationals....

You might not think Lannan would dominate the Braves. But the same thing could be said of the Nationals....

The Braves are 242-181 against everyone else in that period, including 24-24 against the Phillies. Again, they are 11-24 vs. Washington during that span.

Since April 22, 2008, the Braves are 27-35 against the Nationals, and the Phillies are 46-19 against the Nats.

Jurrjens’ slide: You’ve seen it, so you don’t need me to tell you that Jair Jurrjens has been a completely different pitcher since the All-Star break. And if I could tell you why, I surely would.

Again he was asked last night, after giving up six runs in six innings, whether he was healthy. Yes, he said. Knee’s fine. No mention of any other woes.

Which makes the numbers all the more difficult to fathom.

He is Jurrjens is 1-3 with a 6.17 ERA and .323 opponents’ average in four August starts, with 31 hits (five homers), 11 walks and six strikeouts in 23-1/3 innings..

He’s 1-3 with a 5.88 ERA, .301 OA in seven starts since the break, after going 12-3 with a 1.87 ERA and .229 OA 16 starts before break.

Jurrjens' second-half slide continued Tuesday when he was shelled for six runs in six innings, including three homers.

Jurrjens' second-half slide continued Tuesday when he was shelled for six runs in six innings, including three homers.

And this one is really hard to believe: He’s allowed nine homers in 36-1/3 innings in past six starts, after allowing five homers in 115-2/3 innings in his first 17 starts.

Lowe vs. Lannan: Although Lannan is only 1-3 in five August starts, he has a 3.38 ERA for the month. And in his past seven road starts, the lefty is 3-1 with a 2.25 ERA.

Doesn’t much matter against the Braves, because he’s had them under his thumb for a while anyway. Lannan is 5-0 with a 3.12 ERA in six starts against the Braves since August 2010, including 3-0 with a 3.09 ERA in four this season.

Besides Diaz’s 12-for-30 against him, Alex Gonzalez is 8-for-18 with a homer off Lannan, Dan Uggla is 8-for-21 with a homer and five walks, and Chipper Jones is 9-for-28 with four walks. But Freddie Freeman is just 2-for-11 with five strikeouts.

Lowe has shown some signs of coming around, going 2-2 with a 3.38 ERA in his past four starts, after going 3-6 with a 6.54 ERA in his previous 10.

The Braves veteran is 0-1 with a 10.80 ERA and .333 opponents’ average in his past two starts vs. Nationals, after going 3-0 with no runs allowed and .203 OA in 18-2/3 innings during his previous three starts against them.

He’s 3-5 with a 5.12 ERA in his past nine starts against them.

Against Lowe, Ian Desmond is 7-for-22 (.318) with three homers and eight RBIs, Ryan Zimmerman is 15-for-49 (.306) with two homers, ands Rick Ankiel is 4-for-10 with two homers.

Jonny Gomes and Danny Espinosa are each 5-for-11 with a homer against him, and Michael Morse is just 3-for-18 but has two homers.

BRAVES LINEUP

  1. Bourn CF
  2. Prado LF
  3. McCann C
  4. Uggla 2B
  5. Jones 3B
  6. Diaz RF
  7. Freeman 1B
  8. Gonzalez SS
  9. Lowe RH

♣ OK, gotta get down to the clubhouse and see Diaz back with his old boys. We’ll close with a fine tune from one our blog favorites, Jason Isbell, which you can see him do live by clicking here.

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“GROWN” by Jason Isbell

Last night I heard the sirens’ song and I followed it in the ditch.
Oh baby, I’m just carrying on. Far be it for me to bitch.
Last night I heard the distant hum of another damn hurricane.
Oh Sunnie tell me where you’ve gone. Are you still dancing to Purple Rain?

You took my little hand and took me to your room.
You taught me how to want something so I learned how to move.

Oh, oh, you made me feel so grown.
Oh, oh, you made me feel so grown.

Last year I heard your momma had a little trouble with the thin blue line.
You always knew that you could understand and not undermine.

You took me to your room. I let my eyes adjust.
You taught me how to want something and I learned how to lust.

Oh, oh, you made me feel so grown.
Oh, oh, you made me feel so grown.

All them years ago you took a nervous little kid
and showed me how the slow it down just a little bit….

– DAVID O’BRIEN, Braves/MIB blog

1,605 comments Add your comment

Chris from the Rock

August 31st, 2011
3:50 pm

Welcome back, Matty D!

froszty8519

August 31st, 2011
3:50 pm

Go braves! now they should be back in business !

Valdosta DAWG

August 31st, 2011
3:50 pm

David from Athens, AL

August 31st, 2011
3:51 pm

Mike S

August 31st, 2011
3:51 pm

Getting my tix right now off stubhub to see Matt-E and the Bravos tonight!!!

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 31st, 2011
3:51 pm

fine song choice, great album.

phil

August 31st, 2011
3:52 pm

Good to have Diaz back…

better than that bum Wayward and the slow-footed Constanza…

BravesfaninWis

August 31st, 2011
3:52 pm

Why in the hell are they hitting Freeman so low? Man alive I know its a feel good story, but Diaz should not be hitting in front of Freeman.

The Bream Team

August 31st, 2011
3:53 pm

DOB, how do you feel having Diaz back? I know he’s been a solid contributor to the “Quotes” blog for years.

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
3:53 pm

Nice new blog :)

GA 57 Native

August 31st, 2011
3:53 pm

Yes! Braves need more players that can hit when the pressure is on!

BravesfaninWis

August 31st, 2011
3:53 pm

Why no Constanza? He should be in the lineup if he is not injured. The guy has been raking since he came up.

Arkansas Transplant

August 31st, 2011
3:54 pm

posted before Shaun!!

dogsbrekky

August 31st, 2011
3:54 pm

I love Matty D

Braveone

August 31st, 2011
3:56 pm

From the previous blog which had 1,669 comments, Tomahawkin led the way with 71 posts. There were 230 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:

Rank Poster Frequency

1 Tomahawkin 71
2 Efrim 69
3 Shaun 64
4 phil 50
5 TennesseePaul 44
6 ncscoots 44
7 noliee 44
8 N8 40
9 cabravesfan 40
10 Lew 39
11 McFann :Ô: :Ô: 34
12 DS1 32
13 raleighbravefan 31
14 Tomahawk Mafia 30
15 Hugo 28
16 Stizz 27
17 Tom O’Hawke 24
18 LOB Braves 22
19 TnBrian 22
20 Snotboogie 21
21 CraZy 20
22 Tomas 20
23 Ward 20
24 Arkansas Transplant 18
25 Dumbfound 18

Chris from the Rock

August 31st, 2011
3:56 pm

Now if Wren can only pickup a better backup SS than Lugo. His .136 is an embarrassment.

ncscoots

August 31st, 2011
3:56 pm

get ‘em, phil, LOL.

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
3:58 pm

Diaz is a huge addition. Kind of reminds me of when we got Fred McGriff. The Ted will be rocking tonight.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
4:00 pm

I”m starting to get really concerned. Does anybody know of anybody who is not projected to regress?

BJ Upton. I’ve heard great things about his potential!

Bobbys Booger

August 31st, 2011
4:01 pm

Hey Colorado…how much for your shortstop mang?

okfly

August 31st, 2011
4:01 pm

yea im sure the braves got so desprate tonight they traded for Diaz… No we needed a RH bat comming off the bench and maybe platoon vs lefties. Good pick up though, glad to have Matty back.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
4:02 pm

Diaz is a huge addition. Kind of reminds me of when we got Fred McGriff. The Ted will be rocking tonight.

Did you just pull a Tomahawkin’? ;-)

Arkansas Transplant

August 31st, 2011
4:02 pm

Is that redress or regress?

NCbrave

August 31st, 2011
4:02 pm

Enter your comments here

flange1

August 31st, 2011
4:03 pm

Thanks for the work DOB!

The Isbill song is great!

Bobbys Booger

August 31st, 2011
4:03 pm

yep just like Crimedog…’cept different

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
4:04 pm

I left out a bunch of unnecessary caps and exclamation points.

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:04 pm

Fred McGriff? Reminds someone of that move?

Wow.

cricket

August 31st, 2011
4:04 pm

Who was Rowand blocking that giants are paying him 12mil to play somewhere else next year?

Remarkable

August 31st, 2011
4:04 pm

BravesfaninWis I agree.

Braveone So??????? Who cares?

Chris from the Rock True. We had better be looking at free agency for a SS. We certainly don’t have anything in the minors.

Linebrink for (Re)Cy(cling Bin)

August 31st, 2011
4:05 pm

“George Sherrill on DL with left-elbow inflammation”

Guy with an injury has been pitching better than Linebrink ………

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
4:05 pm

That’s what I thought. :-)

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
4:05 pm

I think there is some confusion about the meaning of the word “regress.” Regress just means going back to the previous. A good player having a down year can regress to his norms, which would mean he improved. “Decline” and “regress” are not synonyms, folks.

McCmann and Aqua Hoss

August 31st, 2011
4:05 pm

man man man man man man…..

AquaHoss: Matty D got a .364 average against Cliff Lee

McCmann: As my good friend Johny Chase would say….VICTORY!!!

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
4:07 pm

A can of Sterno caused the fire last time.

This time? Bowman’s chafing.

Soph

August 31st, 2011
4:10 pm

I left out a bunch of unnecessary caps and exclamation points.

And, an intro. You definitely need an intro, Chop.

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
4:11 pm

Efrim, I think Cain is a decent number 2, a good number 3 and a great number 4. Over his career, Cain has been a better strikeout pitcher and a better control pitcher than Jurrjens.

Fair enough, but your standards are higher than mine. I think I’d probably take about ten guys over Cain in the NL.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
4:13 pm

And, an intro. You definitely need an intro, Chop.

jeffrey couldnt pull it off. Will be interesting to see if Chop can.

raleighbravefan

August 31st, 2011
4:13 pm

Wow…Shaun is a statistician AND an English teacher. Multitalented!

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:15 pm

Matt D is heads and tails better than Wayward ever thought of being….OPS, OBS, BABIP, BA, RBI, hits, walks, errors, speed, height, weight, bat weight, appearance in on deck circle, batting stance, clubhouse leadership, the car he drives, girlfriend, rapport with FW, relationship with FG, distrust of Parrish, career HRs, strikeout totals, closer to 3,000 hits, older, slugging %….

You name it, MD is better.

Lew

August 31st, 2011
4:15 pm

Shaun @ 3:36 on Aug. 31 -

“raleighbravesfan, really? I’ve said Bourn isn’t very good and is getting worse? When? I would love to see that.”

Shaun @ 12:20 pm on Aug. 29 -

“His hitting skills are not overly great so his hitting skills will likely drop noticeably with age.”

And this was after posting @ 10:56 on Aug. 29 -

“I think Nate McLouth is a decent comparison as far as offensive value.”

Yeah – we put words in your mouth, right?

Abnerish

August 31st, 2011
4:15 pm

Why is Freeman batting below Matty? 2-11 with 5 Ks. That’s why.

ncscoots

August 31st, 2011
4:15 pm

Will be interesting to see if Chop can.

Chop can do anything. Uber-poster.

raleighbravefan

August 31st, 2011
4:16 pm

A healthy JJ is a good #4? Maybe for us. Some teams would consider him an ace on their staff.

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
4:16 pm

Efrim, yeah, I think my standards are high. I’m not looking at just one year. For example, with aces or number 1’s, I don’t think they are simply the top 30 pitchers. I think they are pitchers who would clearly be the best on almost any staff year-in, year-out. Same with 2’s. Same with 3’s. And so on. I think it’s possible for a team to have more than one number 1 or ace and it’s possible for a team to have none.

meh

August 31st, 2011
4:16 pm

the Nationals must cheat somehow when they play the Braves. how else could they so good against the Braves and so horrible against everyone else? also, they’ve had like a million former Braves come through the orginization so they probably know all the Braves signs.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
4:16 pm

Wow…Shaun is a statistician AND an English teacher. Multitalented!

Funny thing is “regress” has a meaning which is the opposite of “progress”. Statisticians use it differently, but doesnt mean that is the only one.

ncscoots

August 31st, 2011
4:17 pm

You name it, MD is better.

Plus, you don’t have to worry about his swing. Because, after all, if his swing were messed up, how would you know? :-)

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
4:18 pm

Tomahawkin

August 30th, 2011
6:31 pm

Bing!

Soldier____

(Waving Arm!) Get Out The WAYYYYY!!! (Boom!) Pretty Boy Coming Through! Me And My Crew! We Swaggin In The Room!

What’s Up All…?

I don’t want to pull it off. My Chop Chop Swagg™ speaks for itself.

Richmond Braves Fan

August 31st, 2011
4:18 pm

Dave need a movie review. Have you seen Horrible Bosses? Worth the theater, wait for DVD, wait for HBO, or avoid at all costs? Also is it true that the head University of Miami’s compliance office and Donna Shalala are in it? How do they still have jobs especially in this economy? There are a few thousand more qualified people out there.

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
4:19 pm

raleighbravefan, right. Quite a few teams probably don’t have a true ace or number 1. But I don’t define ace as a guy who would be a number 1 in a bad rotation. I define ace as a pitcher who would be a clear number 1 on most pitching staffs in baseball, year-in, year-out; not just in a single, great season.

TennesseePaul

August 31st, 2011
4:19 pm

Thanks for the work DOB.

GO BRAVES!!

Last 9 starts of the starting 9

_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS
Bourn__ .308 .308 .410 0.718
Prado__ .176 .263 .294 0.557
McCann_ .152 .243 .455 0.698
Uggla__ .276 .400 .586 0.986
Chipper .344 .400 .656 1.056
Diaz___ .200 .294 .267 0.561
Freeman .226 .265 .419 0.684
Seabass .167 .242 .400 0.642
Lowe___ .200 .294 .267 0.561

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
4:20 pm

Plus, you don’t have to worry about his swing. Because, after all, if his swing were messed up, how would you know? :-)

Man, this would’ve been the perfect spot for “inflammation – Sherrill” joke, But I seen to have used my closer in the 7th inning instead.
:oops:

MFin04

August 31st, 2011
4:20 pm

“Plus, you don’t have to worry about his swing. Because, after all, if his swing were messed up, how would you know?”

That is one plus. I mean when you know the guy is crazy at the plate, you at least go up there thinking…he will swing at everything and you hope for the best.

It’s quite calming. :)

Especially when he goes through spurts when he is hitting .400 or so and carrying the team against lefties.

Puma

August 31st, 2011
4:20 pm

So basically, if it weren’t for the Nats, our record over the past two seasons would have been comparable to the Phils?

I think this Nats thing goes beyond just the Washington Nationals all the way to the Expos, who also gave us fits throughout the ’90’s despite being one of the worst teams in baseball.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
4:20 pm

10Paul @ 4:19

Worthless post.

Bat Masterson

August 31st, 2011
4:21 pm

Can Matty pitch? What’s his FLIPouit rate? I remember his cussing rate is nil, still does not affset Heap though

Its raining here in blunderberry hell today, go figure.

Jimmy

August 31st, 2011
4:22 pm

Jaine

August 31st, 2011
4:23 pm

Well, that’s nice…but what about the pitching???What about the pitching??? I don’t want to bash any players – but the pitching…what about the pitching? We lost 9 – 2 last night…that’s a problem.

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
4:24 pm

Snotboogie, I’m just pointing out that “regression” isn’t always the same as “decline.” Lance Berkman regressed to closer to his norms so far in 2011.

raleighbravefan

August 31st, 2011
4:24 pm

Shaun – So are you saying there are at least 90 guys better than a HEALTHY JJ in baseball, or are you saying there really aren’t many #1-3s. Wouldn’t a #4, by definition, be someone who was not in the top 90 starters in baseball?

ncscoots

August 31st, 2011
4:24 pm

But I seen to have used my closer in the 7th inning instead.

Should have been posting to the save stat, LOL.

That is one plus. I mean when you know the guy is crazy at the plate, you at least go up there thinking…he will swing at everything and you hope for the best. It’s quite calming.

But somewhat less calming when the hitter’s name is Alex? :-)

raleighbravefan

August 31st, 2011
4:25 pm

Matt may be one of the best active tackles in baseball. Just ask the fan who ran on the field in Philly.

ncscoots

August 31st, 2011
4:26 pm

Worthless post.

Well, I think “worthless” is a bit harsh. Not important or meaningful, sure…

raleighbravefan

August 31st, 2011
4:26 pm

Shaun – to further clarify, how many pitchers do you think are BETTER than a healthy JJ?

TennesseePaul

August 31st, 2011
4:26 pm

SB, I like to waste everyone’s time.

Free Constanza

August 31st, 2011
4:27 pm

why is Constanza not playing….. AGAIN!???!!

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
4:28 pm

Can’t wait to see Diaz back with the Braves tonight :)

MFin04

August 31st, 2011
4:28 pm

“But somewhat less calming when the hitter’s name is Alex?”

Yes, because he NEVER hits. :)

But on a more positive note, A-Gon might have been the player of the game last night, he showed incredible plate discipline and had great at bats.

Jimmy

August 31st, 2011
4:29 pm

TennesseePaul – “SB, I like to waste everyone’s time.”

10Paul, you keep posting that stat. I look for it before every game. You and Fish Bisch “_____ owns us” line are traditional touches to the blog.

ncscoots

August 31st, 2011
4:30 pm

why is Constanza not playing….. AGAIN!???!!

New blog pool: last date that the blog gets one of these, and Constanza’s BA on that date. Bonus points if the BA is actually higher than the sum of the month and day of your chosen date. :-)

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
4:30 pm

SB, I like to waste everyone’s time.

I’d say keep doing it, but what the heck do I know. :shrug:

raleighbravefan

August 31st, 2011
4:30 pm

Shaun…Hello…Are you thee?

raleighbravefan

August 31st, 2011
4:31 pm

there, not thee

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:31 pm

Release Diaz…

O'flarity's water bottle

August 31st, 2011
4:32 pm

IS THIS NEEDED? THIS TEAM HAS NO HEART PLAYING THE NATS!

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:32 pm

Yeah, Shaun is there, but he’s trying to figure out how to distort the retort to his bumbling denial….

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
4:33 pm

Shaun @ 12:20 pm on Aug. 29 -

“His hitting skills are not overly great so his hitting skills will likely drop noticeably with age.”

And this was after posting @ 10:56 on Aug. 29 -

“I think Nate McLouth is a decent comparison as far as offensive value.”

Yeah – we put words in your mouth, right?

Lew, saying a player’s hitting skills aren’t “overly great” isn’t the same thing as saying he’s no good. Bourn isn’t “overly great” offensively but he’s still above average.

As far as McLouth, I believe if you look at the whole comment, you’ll see that I was responding to someone who pointed out that if the Braves re-sign Bourn, it could turn out like McLouth. McLouth at his peak is similar to Bourn at his peak, in terms of overall offensive value. Obviously they have different offensive skills and Bourn has much more defensive value, even at McLouth’s peak he was no Bourn defensively.

I know you aren’t going to look at the nuances of my comments and pay attention to context. You are going to do your best to oversimplify every comment of mine because of your dislike. So I’ll keep explaining for you, if necessary.

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:33 pm

Constanza reminds me of a young Stan Musial, absent the prowess at bat and afield….

cricket

August 31st, 2011
4:34 pm

Well, I think “worthless” is a bit harsh. Not important or meaningful, sure…

may be it is regressively optimal..or is it optimally regressive …

Jimmy

August 31st, 2011
4:34 pm

“distort the retort”
:-)

RC

August 31st, 2011
4:37 pm

This is going to lead to Matt Diaz starting every game against LHP in the playoffs, isn’t it?? :(

Lew

August 31st, 2011
4:37 pm

Shaun – Parsing words will not extricate you from this one. Your hoist on your own petard. That’s exactly what you said.

T for Texas

August 31st, 2011
4:38 pm

Old friend Mike Gonzalez acquired by the Rangers. If he performs at all that is one nasty bullpen.

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
4:39 pm

Shaun – So are you saying there are at least 90 guys better than a HEALTHY JJ in baseball, or are you saying there really aren’t many #1-3s. Wouldn’t a #4, by definition, be someone who was not in the top 90 starters in baseball?

raleighbravefan, I’m saying there aren’t many 1-3’s in baseball. I’m talking 1-3’s year-in, year-out.

For instance, true number 1 starters. I don’t think just because there are 30 spots for number 1 starters, since there are 30 teams, means that the top 30 starters are true number 1’s. My definition of a true number 1 is a guy who would clearly be a number 1 on any team and would be the clear number 1 for several seasons (except in the case where maybe two of these type guys happen to pitch on the same team, like a Halladay and a Lee). So there are fewer than 30. And there are fewer than 30 number 2’s. And there are fewer than 30 number 3’s.

ncscoots

August 31st, 2011
4:39 pm

This is going to lead to Matt Diaz starting every game against LHP in the playoffs, isn’t it??

Maybe not. Not if Heyward starts rockin’ righties. But he has to do that, I think, before there could be any confidence in him against lefties.

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
4:40 pm

seriously the Rangers are loaded

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
4:40 pm

Lew, that’s what I said. But that still doesn’t change the fact that you ignored context, particularly with that second quote. One’s brain has to understand nuance and be more than narrowly-focused to get that.

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:40 pm

Can we get the Rangers’ blog to acquire Shaun?

Bat Masterson

August 31st, 2011
4:41 pm

Scoots_

Bifff bet ………. 9/29

Threadkiller

August 31st, 2011
4:41 pm

I love how Shaun compares Bourn’s previous stats with the Houston Astros (The worst team in baseball) to his future declining stats with the Atlanta Braves (One of the best teams in baseball)!

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:42 pm

Shaun – Your brain hasn’t understood nuance since your conception….

Heisenberg

August 31st, 2011
4:42 pm

Hey DOB, finally listened to the Jeff Bridges album..Most of it is a bit slow for my preferences, but the song he sang on Colbert recently (what little bit of love can do) is catchy and will stick in your head and is worth some radio play. Wish there were more up tempo on it like that. It will probably take a few more times hrough to maybe appreciate the entire work.

Also listened to the new Cars release. Not the same magic as the 80’s but Ric Os wife is still HOT.

OK, now back to your regularly scheduled arguing.

PS I got nothing to add to the DIaz trade discussion. Will just see what happens.

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
4:42 pm

For instance, true number 1 starters. I don’t think just because there are 30 spots for number 1 starters, since there are 30 teams, means that the top 30 starters are true number 1’s.

Right, but how many guys do you think are better than Matt Cain, who you called a decent #2 starter?

Lew

August 31st, 2011
4:42 pm

Shaun – Just STFU, you condescending little jerk.You wouldn’t know or understand nuance if it bit you on your behind.

Lew

August 31st, 2011
4:44 pm

That’s what I said but you don’t understand what I said. Whatever.

ncscoots

August 31st, 2011
4:44 pm

Bat, sure, you’re probably right, LOL. Might even be getting calls for Biff to start, sometime after the WS, for that matter.

coach

August 31st, 2011
4:44 pm

Braves acquired Edgar Renteria from Reds and released Lugo

Wes

August 31st, 2011
4:45 pm

Can’t wait to watch that bat swing Matt-E again, tonight!!!

Sid the Rally Salmon

August 31st, 2011
4:47 pm

Can there be another comment section or other far off place on the intertubes for Shaun and those who claim to hate him, but constantly and ceaselessly engage him. I don’t know who is right and I don’t care. The day after day of Shaun vs. Anti-Shaun is not enjoyable for me or most other fans, I would guess. Why do those of you that claim to be sickened by his comments engage him?

This makes no sense. But it cuts down my enjoyment of the blog, the comments and the community.

Sid don’t swim in polluted waters. Rally Salmon out.

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
4:48 pm

Threadkiller, Actually I’m looking at performance over stats. I’m only looking at the stats that are indicative of performance, not just the baseball card stats, which many of you look at.

No, I don’t think Bourn will suddenly perform better just because he plays for the Braves. And I don’t know if we’ll start to see a noticeable decline in his performance while with the Braves. That depends on if they re-sign him and, if they do, for how long.

Plus, even if he declines, doesn’t mean he won’t be tremendously valuable to the Braves or some other team. But it seems you and others don’t get that when a player is in decline, it doesn’t mean he’s worthless. It just means he’s worse than before, worse than he was at his peak, worse than he was in his best seasons. In case you haven’t paid attention to baseball history, players don’t peak and keep up peak performance until the day they retire, unless maybe they retire in their early 30’s or something.

Lew

August 31st, 2011
4:49 pm

Salmon Dude – You have a scroll wheel? Use it.

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:50 pm

coach

August 31st, 2011
4:44 pm
Braves acquired Edgar Renteria from Reds and released Lugo
***************************
What next? Re-aquiring Andruw Jones? Why not activate Smoltz while we’re at it….

Threadkiller

August 31st, 2011
4:51 pm

I just used my scroll wheel!

T for Texas

August 31st, 2011
4:51 pm

The talk of Ozzie Guillen going to the Marlins cracks me up. How long before Ozzie goes on an honesty filled tirade about Jeffrey Loria that costs him his job. It’s like when a someone you know who is a big boozer starts dating someone that doesn’t drink at all. That relationship is on the clock from day one.

urban redneck

August 31st, 2011
4:51 pm

why is everybody still talking constant shirt about heyward? we only had 2 rbi’s last night, both by heyward.

Dumbfound

August 31st, 2011
4:52 pm

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
3:58 pm
Diaz is a huge addition. Kind of reminds me of when we got Fred McGriff. The Ted will be rocking tonight.

Surely you are not comparing Matt Diaz to Fred McGriff ?! :???:

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:52 pm

Exactly on Wayward….not only does he stink but of late, so do the rest of em…..

Hugo Z Hackenbush

August 31st, 2011
4:53 pm

Gotta love Shaun. After someone points out to him that “regress” can indeed be a synonym for “decline” out here in the real world, he claims he never said otherwise…but you can scroll back ten minutes and find out that he did! Which reminds me Shaun, are we at war with Eurasia or Eastasia today?

Lew

August 31st, 2011
4:53 pm

threadkiller – Something everyone who doesn’t like the way conversations go should do rather than sit there and gripe how much something bothers them.

Lew

August 31st, 2011
4:54 pm

Texas -By the All Star break or sooner.

cricket

August 31st, 2011
4:54 pm

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:54 pm

Griping sometimes makes me feel better, Lew.

See? I didn’t scroll….

phil

August 31st, 2011
4:55 pm

Release Lugo…

Keep McLouth since he’s just as good as Bourn according to a certain poster….

Sid the Rally Salmon

August 31st, 2011
4:55 pm

You are right Lew. And for a long time I just skipped the Shaun, Lew and other posts. But lately, it seems to me, that the Horsemen of the Shaun-pocaplyse have started using new sign-ons like “Threadkiller” and others. It is getting harder and harder to parse through.

I have a lot of buttons on this fancy computer thing. A few of them take me to other bullentin boards. And that is where I will go.

Thanks for your well-thought out, meaningful response. And, please, keep yelling at Shaun. It shows how much you know, how little he knows, and how classy ol’ Lew is.

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
4:56 pm

I’ve never understood why the concept of a player declining is so complicated for some. Let me try to explain it visually. When a typical baseball player is around 30, his skills overall are likely to be a little worse than they were when he was in his late-20’s. But it’s not like a roller coaster that goes straight down at age 30. It’s more like a moderate incline.

Doesn’t mean some players won’t have better seasons in their 30’s. Just that most are going to have declining overall skills. But maybe something was going on in their late 20’s. Perhaps they were hurt often. Perhaps they just needed to adjust their mechanics and didn’t know how until their 30’s. Perhaps the results just didn’t match the skills because of something flukey seasons.

raleighbravefan

August 31st, 2011
4:57 pm

Shaun – So in reality, most # 1-3s don’t really exist…They are mythical?

You keep saying guys who would be (by your definition) #1,2,3,4,etc year in and year out. Which year would JJ not be one of the best 90 pitchers in the world? You are talking about circumstances that do not now, nor have they ever existed. It’s all a mythical figment of your furtile imagination. Could it ever be the case that a healthy JJ at his current age would not be one of the top 90 pitchers in the world, and therefore, only a solid #4? Just asking, because if not, your whole premis is flawed.

cricket

August 31st, 2011
4:57 pm

NL Homer race -

1. Matt Kemp (Dodgers): 31
1. Albert Pujols (Cardinals): 31
1. Mike Stanton (Marlins): 31
4. Lance Berkman (Cardinals): 30
4. Dan Uggla (Braves): 30

Lew

August 31st, 2011
4:58 pm

Thank You Salmon Dude. I’m so ashamed and have been put in my place yet again. Right.

raleighbravefan

August 31st, 2011
4:58 pm

Shaun will never regress to the norm.

Lew

August 31st, 2011
4:59 pm

I’m certain you will be missed – by someone, somewhere. Maybe.

Master Baiter

August 31st, 2011
5:00 pm

Heyward’s batting average has definitely regressed. Just terrible.

Threadkiller

August 31st, 2011
5:01 pm

Sid the Rally Salmon, I’m not new..Been here for years and love discussion about Braves baseball..However, it’s hard not to get sucked by your boy constantly putting all of us down!
Why don’t you tell your boy…Who initiates the conversation, to leave so the rest of us can enjoy?
It goes both ways Sid.

Master Baiter

August 31st, 2011
5:02 pm

I guess Heyward turned 30 over the past winter.

Threadkiller

August 31st, 2011
5:02 pm

Btw, Sid..Thanks for stopping by! Hope you enjoy the next blog you find!

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
5:03 pm

phil, McLouth was actually better offensively at his peak than Bourn is at his peak. But going forward Bourn is going to be the better player. McLouth is just starting to move past his prime while Bourn is in the midst of his. Plus while McLouth was better that Bourn offensively when you look at both player’s peak seasons, Bourn was a far superior defensive player. That’s going to be the biggest difference in the two players going forward.

Lew

August 31st, 2011
5:03 pm

I will lose much sleep because I’m not thought to be classy by someone I don’t know, never met, never will meet and goes by a tag like Rally Salmon.

cricket

August 31st, 2011
5:05 pm

RC

August 31st, 2011
5:05 pm

phil, McLouth was actually better offensively at his peak than Bourn is at his peak. But going forward Bourn is going to be the better player. McLouth is just starting to move past his prime while Bourn is in the midst of his. Plus while McLouth was better that Bourn offensively when you look at both player’s peak seasons, Bourn was a far superior defensive player. That’s going to be the biggest difference in the two players going forward.

It certainly doesn’t help his case that McLouth’s “peak” pretty much lasted from breakfast one morning until he got ready for bed that same night.

Sid the Rally Salmon

August 31st, 2011
5:08 pm

Threadkiller–Thought you had a scroll wheel and like to use it?

Look, I don’t like Shaun, and I recognize that the way to solve this would be for Shaun to stop posting. I also realize that the way to get that to happen, absent God Sabermetrus calling all his children home, is for folks to ignore him. I don’t get why that doesn’t happen.

Lew seems like he is scrappin’ for fight. And I have done the dumb thing and given him one. That’s my fault. Won’t happen again.

ohhhYEAH

August 31st, 2011
5:09 pm

Miguel Tejada DFA…he plays short stop……right? :)

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
5:09 pm

raleighbravefan, huh? No. There are actually true number 1’s, true number 2’s, etc. There just probably aren’t 30 of each, by my definition. What I’m saying is just because a guy is a number 1 starter for a particular team, doesn’t mean he’s an ace, by my definition. If he wouldn’t be a clear number 1, on almost every team, year-in and year-out, I don’t consider him an ace.

CrαZy

August 31st, 2011
5:09 pm

Enter your comments here

Patrick

August 31st, 2011
5:10 pm

we should go after Renteria, he always comes up huge in the playoffs

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
5:13 pm

Thanks for the new Blog and the lineup, Chief!! Welcome back, MattE!

Lew

August 31st, 2011
5:14 pm

No – I’m not scrapping for a fight, but I won’t walk away from one, either.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
5:15 pm

cricket @4:57

That’s such a weird list. Didnt expect Stanton or Berkman in there. Huge seasons for both of them. I dont think Berkman has even gone on the DL once this season. :shock:
And he’s over 30! :shock: :shock:

Lew

August 31st, 2011
5:16 pm

SB – Over 30? His days are numbered.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
5:17 pm

Although…maybe MattE should have batted third for tonight…

Heath

August 31st, 2011
5:19 pm

This futlity to the Nats sucks… period. Just put that in the blog DOB lol. We all think it…

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
5:19 pm

I guess Heyward turned 30 over the past winter.

Nope. Just not close to his prime yet. Something close to a league-average offensive season with plus defense shouldn’t be a shock at this point in his career, especially considering the injuries. The only reason it’s a shock is because people pay more attention to hype than reason and because last year he was better than expected. Without hype and without the hot start last season, his season wouldn’t be any more shocking that a player like Prado’s 2011 season. Although Prado’s league-average offensive season isn’t all that shocking. He’s within the margin of what his skills and tools suggest him to be.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
5:19 pm

Berkman’s 168 OPS+ this season is the best of his career.
Even better than AT’s wildest dreams!

Heath

August 31st, 2011
5:20 pm

I’m 31… my days are numbered too. :(

Heisenberg

August 31st, 2011
5:20 pm

Renteria would be an upgrade over Lugo as backup, but IMHO not over AGon despite his offensive woes.

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
5:20 pm

Lew, apparently you missed the explanation of how the whole decline thing works with baseball players. Think very gradual slope not roller coaster drop at around age 30.

Dick Tracy

August 31st, 2011
5:21 pm

I think I know why Shaun defends Heyward so much.

Heath

August 31st, 2011
5:21 pm

This blog is a roller coaster ride ;)

Jay Dubu

August 31st, 2011
5:22 pm

Fredi sure does love his lefty-righty lineups!!

Lew

August 31st, 2011
5:22 pm

Shaun – Apparently you missed the point that I don’t agree with you and really don’t give a flying %%$##@

Bravofan

August 31st, 2011
5:22 pm

Mike Gonzalez to the rangers.

Bob

August 31st, 2011
5:22 pm

Time to end the Lowe experiment…he’s washed up, and maybe time to put JJ on the DL as everyone can see he hasn’t been right since the Allstar break. I do like our young guns.

Trey

August 31st, 2011
5:23 pm

So glad the Braves got Diaz back, but not so glad that Uggla’s getting sued for $5,000,000. :(

Threadkiller

August 31st, 2011
5:23 pm

Snotboogie, Is Berkman over 30? Cause he should be regressing.

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
5:24 pm

Heath, again, baseball players’ days aren’t “numbered” at 31. Think gradual slope, not roller coaster drop. Odd that I have to spell it out like this. Didn’t think it was that difficult a concept.

Lew

August 31st, 2011
5:26 pm

Heath – Don’t feel bad. I’m 60 and my days have now been numbered two times.

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
5:27 pm

I think I know why Shaun defends Heyward so much.

The same reason I would have defended Uggla if the Braves would have been so foolish as to regularly bench him after his struggles. The same reason I would have defended Prado if the Braves would be so foolish as to bench him regularly because he was having something like a league-average-or-slightly-worse offensive season. Because you don’t assume that a good player with the skills and tools to succeed and who has performed well as a professional will continue to struggle beyond yesterday. Pretty simple.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
5:28 pm

Sometimes it feels like the whole thing is not different from people teasing kittens with laser pointers.

Youknowme

August 31st, 2011
5:28 pm

On Twitter: Man who says he suffered brain, spinal injury sues Braves’ Dan Uggla for $5M. http://bit.ly/ojOIEA

:(

Heath

August 31st, 2011
5:28 pm

Lew -

Actually I just started not feeling bad after my bachelor party weekend ;)

DS1

August 31st, 2011
5:29 pm

Bob

I’m afraid the “Lowe experiment” will probably last another 13 months.

Mitchie-san

August 31st, 2011
5:29 pm

Matty D is back!! Couldn’t be happier! One of my favorites!

Bob

August 31st, 2011
5:30 pm

Lew…you’re our resident stat man, what are the odds that you’re wrong?

Lew

August 31st, 2011
5:30 pm

Heath – You had a Bachelor parfy and didn’t feel bad afterwards? Did you do it right?

Shaun

August 31st, 2011
5:30 pm

Lew, you disagree with all of the data, evidence that suggests players peak in their late 20’s? Have to hand it to you. It takes some guts to go against reality. There is something admirable about the Flat Earth Society’s persistence on keeping misguided tradition alive. Same with you, Lew, and others who consistently scoff in the face of evidence.

Dick Tracy

August 31st, 2011
5:31 pm

Nope. That’s not it. Try again.

Bob

August 31st, 2011
5:31 pm

DS1…I’m afraid you’re right. Too bad.

The Abs Man

August 31st, 2011
5:32 pm

When you have a Prop. 48 clueless manager who literally shows poor judgemnent wasting rosters spots on Linebrink, Lugo and Sherrill not to mention Scott Proctor, you know why offensive numbers suck.

Heath

August 31st, 2011
5:32 pm

Lew -

I worded that weird… “I felt bad until now”, or, “I’m just now not feeling bad”

Trust me, the weekend was done, right. :)

Youknowme

August 31st, 2011
5:34 pm

@mlbbowman Mark Bowman: Wren said there is still one more area he could address before tonight’s deadline. A backup middle infielder would help.

What do you all think this means?? 8)

BravesFanInPA

August 31st, 2011
5:34 pm

Tejeda was DFA’d today…….how does that work? How long until someone could pick him up. He has to be an improvement over Lugo doesnt he?

Youknowme

August 31st, 2011
5:35 pm

Bowman also said that the “Braves tried to get Jamey Carroll, but the Dodgers said they would not trade him”. Hmmmmm…..

Bob

August 31st, 2011
5:36 pm

Lew, I’m sorry…I meant Shaun was our resident stat man. BTW, happy 60th birthday my friend.

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
5:36 pm

Braves are continuing to pursue a backup middle infielder. Price for Dodgers’ Jamey Carroll has either been too high or L.A. became reluctant to trade. But Wren acknowledged he still has “irons in the fire.”

Heath

August 31st, 2011
5:37 pm

Heyward has tools, no doubt, but sometimes guys just need more time in AAA perfecting their craft. Halladay and Lee are prime examples of guys that had to be sent down to the minors and came back as elite players. Heyward could have benefited from playing every day in AAA the last couple of months playing against lesser talent to rebuild his confidence and work on mechanics.

Patrick

August 31st, 2011
5:39 pm

I really don’t even know why I bother to watch the games the Braves play against the nats cause I always end up getting pissed off…

The only reason I’m watching tonight is to see Matt

Rob from SC

August 31st, 2011
5:40 pm

DOB

There is no way Hoover will be part of the Diaz deal right?

Heath

August 31st, 2011
5:41 pm

Patrick -

I was really excited to see some form of Braves baseball last night… otherwise, I understand your position lol.

Lew

August 31st, 2011
5:41 pm

Shaun – Yeah, let’s look at a perfect example of that “slight” regression after age 30- Chipper Jones

Age 33 in 2004 – .248, .362, .485

Age 34 in 2005 – .296, 412, .556

Age 35 in 2006 – .324, .407, . 596

Age 36 in 2007 – .337, . 425, . 604

Age 37 in 2008 – .364, .470, .574.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
5:41 pm

Scott Diamond got his first ML win today.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
5:42 pm

Bob,

My expectations for Lowe are realistic. When he was signed, he was desperately needed. I don’t begrudge him his salary. Nobody held a gun to FW’s head when he was signed.

My Name Is Earl

August 31st, 2011
5:42 pm

Can somebody please ask Prado to give Bourne a couple of chances to steal tonight?

Lew

August 31st, 2011
5:43 pm

bob – Wrong about what?

TBFKB (Billy)

August 31st, 2011
5:43 pm

I called this deal back in July.

Patrick

August 31st, 2011
5:44 pm

yeah, I don’t understand why Prado is 1. So impatient this season and 2. So pull happy. This is not the Martin that I remember

cricket

August 31st, 2011
5:44 pm

Berkman has no concept of ageing regression

Bob

August 31st, 2011
5:45 pm

Lew, for mistakenly calling you our resident stat man…must be the heavy meds I’m on or just dreading Lowe’s start tonight.

Travis

August 31st, 2011
5:46 pm

The reason Shaun is hard to ignore for the posters on here is because when someone makes a point, directed at no one in particular, Shaun always posts back using there name to start the inevitable “your a dumb a–” response. Maybe if we started all our blogs posts with “Shaun need not reply” He would just go away. I have been on here over 5 years and not once has Shaun ever blogged to agree with someone. His sole purpose is to demeen an opinion differant from his own.

Heath

August 31st, 2011
5:47 pm

I still think that Heyward’s stance (he always looks like he’s to far away from the plate which actually makes him vulnerable inside because he has to dive to cover the outside) and lack of adjustments is what has held him back this year. He had 91 BB last year and nowhere near that pace this year (38) and his GB/FB ratio has changed a lot too (from 1.18 to 1.29). He’s not driving the ball in the opposite direction, so he’s pulling off on everything resulting in all the additional ground balls. And I think because he’s struggling, he’s not as patient so he’s walking less.

Travis

August 31st, 2011
5:48 pm

“Shaun need not reply”…Lew how is your son? You probably don’t need to answer…Shaun will know.

Lew

August 31st, 2011
5:48 pm

BOB – That’s OK. I’m really not “scrappin” for a fight like some drive by gripers seem to think.

cricket

August 31st, 2011
5:49 pm

When you have a Prop. 48 clueless manager who literally shows poor judgemnent wasting rosters spots on Linebrink, Lugo and Sherrill not to mention Scott Proctor, you know why offensive numbers suck.

Damn all those ABs wasted by Linebrink, Lugo, Sherrill and Proctor..

What???

August 31st, 2011
5:49 pm

Pretty easy to tell why Jurrjens is getting hammered – he is leaving the ball up in the strike zone. That explains the home run numbers too. Can’t locate his fastball or breaking stuff right now.

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
5:51 pm

ok time for me to go but on my Diaz jersey (actually its my oldest son’s but he isn’t here)…kinda nice he will be playing right in front of me…although him in RF makes me a bit nervous

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
5:51 pm

oh yeah GEAUX BRAVES

ijudgenot

August 31st, 2011
5:52 pm

coach

August 31st, 2011
4:44 pm
Braves acquired Edgar Renteria from Reds and released Lugo.

Man, I wished that were true. Renteria is 3 times the clutch hitter Gonzalez and Lugo are. Gonzalez’s defense would keep him the starter but I would not hesitate pinch hitting for him with Renteria in late innings eventhough it would mean giving up some defense.

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
5:54 pm

Jason Barlett solid player would definitely be an improvement over Lugo.

Rob from SC

August 31st, 2011
5:58 pm

Heath

You are right about Heyward diving to cover the outside pitch. If he moves a little closer to the plate he wouldn’t have to lean in a tie himself up

Patrick

August 31st, 2011
5:59 pm

I’ve heard Renteria, Carroll, now Bartlett, even Tejada! as improvements over Lugo and well…that’s all correct

TOMY FOURNIER

August 31st, 2011
5:59 pm

SAME DOG…WITH DIFERENT COLLAR…ALEX GONZ.,..NOW DIAZ AND WHAT ABOUT HEYWARD…ALL LIKE TO HIT BALLS OUTSIDE, INSIDE, UP AND IN THE GROUND, BUT NEVER IN THE CENTER OF THE HOME PLATE….AND THE PITCHER LINE UP…A TRASH…ONLY A GOOD BENCH(PITCHERS)…..THAT’S THE TEAM TO REPRESENT US ON THE WILD CARD…JA-JA-JA-JA!!!!

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
6:02 pm

Edgar Renteria would be awesome. Best bench in baseball if Wren can pull that one off.

Matty D FAN

August 31st, 2011
6:02 pm

I know what will work. Trade Lugo for Furcol. Furcol is so fast. Then trade Jurgens and another guy for David Orteez of the Boston. I tellin you we would be so good philees would be so scard of us then.

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
6:02 pm

Diaz was shown on MLBN taking batting practice 8-)

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
6:04 pm

Renteria by the way, 333 vs lefties and a 844 OPS

Matty D FAN

August 31st, 2011
6:05 pm

I like Furcol better then Renteria. He is faster and all.

Lew

August 31st, 2011
6:05 pm

Travis – Not well. They found out that the toe infection was actually osteosarcoma – bone cancer. Hopefully, they got it all (seems to be the case) when they removed the toe, but they’ll do a full body MRI in three months. At least there is – apparently – no lung cancer, which sometimes comes with this cancer (he doesn’t nor has he ever smoked).

TIme will tell. Hopefully the toe removal is all he’ll go through.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:06 pm

Time to change September roster rules Jim Bowden ESPN Insider

Major League Baseball is the only one of the major sports that dramatically changes its roster limit rules for the final month of its regular season. After playing five months with 25-man rosters, baseball increases rosters to a maximum of 40 players beginning on Sept. 1, before reducing them back to 25 for the playoffs and World Series. The only reason this rule has ever made sense is that the minor league teams that provide the inventory of extra bodies stop playing in early September.

However, this roster change causes imbalances. Large-market clubs usually have the freedom of calling up any player they want while small- to middle-market teams usually are limited to the number of players they can call up, a number they have most likely budgeted in the offseason, regardless of whether they are in a pennant race. The other imbalance is the level of talent that each club has at the Triple-A or Double-A levels, or the specialty players it has available to help in a tight pennant race.

The type of players a team calls up differs greatly depending on where it is in the standings. A contending team is looking to bring up specific role players who can help the team become stronger and win right now. This could include a lefty specialist, an extra catcher or a really fast guy who can be used as a pinch-runner. Noncontending teams, however, have different goals. They are more focused on bringing players to the major leagues for auditions for next year’s club as well as developing players at the major league level. Some of these moves actually force some players to the bench so these noncontending teams can get a look at players against better competition.

“In past years, we have brought up younger players to give them exposure of playing in the major leagues,” said Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski. “This year, we are going to try and bring up players who can help us win a game. Most likely, fit a role and provide the manager with some additional flexibility.”

A club can bring up as many as 15 players. During my 15 years as a GM, I always thought the right number was around seven players — any more than that you’ll have too many players sitting around. The consensus of most GMs I talked with this weekend is that five to seven players is appropriate for September call-ups given all of the factors.

Every GM’s philosophy is slightly different, but all are dependent on finances, talent and where they are in the race, along with what’s best for the major league team and the players individually. Another important part of September call-ups is the ability to give much-needed rest to veteran players who have been playing every day all year.

“I have always looked at September call-ups as a twofold opportunity,” said Cardinals GM John Mozeliak. “One, to offer the team depth when you enter the final month of the season, as it is a good opportunity to give your regulars a day off. Two, it can be a great experience for young players to get their first exposure to the big leagues.”

The financial aspect of September call-ups also comes into play with all 30 teams, as Braves GM Frank Wren explains: “With service time and the ‘real costs’ of a call-up escalating to roughly $75,000 each [salary and travel], we try to limit the numbers to five or six.”

Of course, with service time the players also become one step closer to salary arbitration eligibility and free agency as well. During these difficult economic times, several small-market clubs will hold players back for strictly financial reasons, and this is a subtle — yet significant — way in which big-money teams have an edge down the stretch.

Baseball should either lengthen the Double-A and Triple-A schedules through the third week in September and keep rosters at 25 the entire season or, at the very least, mandate all teams increase their rosters to a “hard” number of 32 players. That would at least level the playing field a little more.

Padres GM Jed Hoyer agreed.

“I think that we need to change the call-up rule to limit the numbers,” he said. “Matching up lefties and righties in the fourth inning is not baseball and shouldn’t impact pennant races. I hope this changes in the next collective bargaining agreement.”

Most September call-ups will have already had some major league service time this year. Here are some of the players you should expect to be brought back: Pedro Alvarez (PIT), Logan Morrison (FLA), Julio Teheran (ATL), Edinson Volquez (CIN), Domonic Brown (PHI), Kyle Drabek (TOR), Brett Wallace (HOU), Michael Taylor and Chris Carter (OAK) and Andy Dirks (DET). There quite possibly will be several players making their major league debuts such as Chris Marrero, Steve Lombardozzi and Tom Milone of the Washington Nationals and Nick Hagadone and Zach Putnam of the Cleveland Indians, along with the much-anticipated arrivals of Jesus Montero and Manny Banuelos of the Yankees.

The rosters are about to expand, and the competition will change soon. So should the rule.

1eyedJack

August 31st, 2011
6:07 pm

“As mentioned above, the Braves are 11-24 in their past 35 games against the Nationals. This is a bit ridiculous.”

It’s the old Expos curse. Those guys used to beat the Braves like a drum.

Bob

August 31st, 2011
6:07 pm

Matty D…the other guy I’d include to Boston would be Hansen, and maybe we could get Salty back. Even before Hansen’s injury, he had trouble getting past the fifth inning. Just my opinion.

Matty D FAN

August 31st, 2011
6:13 pm

Bob …yeah Hansen is not a real good pitcher. I dont think I would trade Jurgens and Hansen for Orteez because that is kind of alot. Maybe I would but I dont know.

Oteez is the best power player on PS3 the show! Think what he could do for us!!

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:13 pm

Funny thing is “regress” has a meaning which is the opposite of “progress”. Statisticians use it differently, but doesnt mean that is the only one. SB

true, but since stats are usually involved in the discussion of a players performance it is easier to understand what is meant if the correct definition is used. I gotta admit that, like Shaun i guess, it vaguely irritates me and I wanna do a VJ and say sumthang. :oops:

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
6:13 pm

Constanza is only hitting .429 against lefties, guess that isn’t good enough, what ever happened to the “play the hot hand theory”?

hawk TN

August 31st, 2011
6:15 pm

i predict matt diaz will go 0 for 4 tonight as he usually does he couldn’t hit last year and he is hitting less this year– constanza can hit lefties better than diaz can….

Matty D FAN

August 31st, 2011
6:16 pm

noliee …sumthang is not a word! How old are you? It is something if you wanted to know. That is how you spell it!

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
6:18 pm

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
6:19 pm

About MattyD as the RH bat off the bench, that is!

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
6:20 pm

Bing!

Soldier—

Get Out The WAYYYY!!! (Boom!) Pretty Boy Coming Through! Me And My Crew! We Swaggin In The Room!”

Whats Up All?

Bob

August 31st, 2011
6:21 pm

With our lack of success against the Nats, maybe Fredi should stay home and let the team manage itself tonight…couldn’t do any worse.

Memphis

August 31st, 2011
6:24 pm

Bob,
The thing is we haven’t beaten the Nats since they came to Washington. They’ve always had our number for some reason

Heath

August 31st, 2011
6:25 pm

MLBN posted a poll for most exciting player under 24… guess who’s not on the list?

jeffrey d

August 31st, 2011
6:25 pm

I haven’t been able to pay much attention the past few days or so, but did something happen? Or are we just going with 5 outfielders?

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
6:25 pm

Who gets taken off the 40 man roster tomorrow when Moylan goes from the 60 day DL to the 40 man. Cross your fingers it will be Linesuck.

jason

August 31st, 2011
6:25 pm

MAT MAT IS BACK!!!!

Bob

August 31st, 2011
6:26 pm

@Memphis…why do you think that is? What might we do about it? Thanks,

jason

August 31st, 2011
6:26 pm

WAIVE LUGO!!

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
6:26 pm

Heath, Heyward?

Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)

August 31st, 2011
6:27 pm

With the impending roster expansion adding Diaz is a good move on the part of our Braves. He will help down the stretch but I’m not sure how much. Matty has just 19 RBI and no HR’s so far in 2001. However, a change of scenery can and has done wonders for many an athlete in the past.

So welcome back Matty!

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
6:28 pm

Good To Have Matty-D Back!

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
6:29 pm

Ralph, Linebrink makes the most sense to be DFA’d. I actually though for a minute there that the guy was showing a little of his former self, but he has failed more times than not since. Say goodbye to him or Lugo I would say. Could even be Conrad.

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
6:29 pm

JC Boscan, Randall Delgado, Julio Teheran, Todd Redmond, and I guess Brandon Hicks will be September call ups

Michael

August 31st, 2011
6:30 pm

What about Costanza now?!?!?!?!?! Georgie?

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:30 pm

sumthang is wrong with you Matty D Fan.

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
6:30 pm

Lugo Will Get Ol Yellered Tomorrow, Bank on it! The Trade for Matty-D was the Calling Call

I’d rather have a kid from the minors as the backup SS than Lugo

Michael

August 31st, 2011
6:30 pm

welcome back matty d!

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
6:32 pm

TnBrian

Connie will not Get Ol Yellered! Tomorrow, Bank On It!. His Pinch hit ability is why he is on the team, plus he is a switch hitter

George Costanza

August 31st, 2011
6:32 pm

WELL THEY HAVE SCREWED ME AGAIN! IM NOT IN LINEUP!?? GEORGE IS GETTIN UPSET!!

mpimentel

August 31st, 2011
6:33 pm

what about mclouth… where he is?

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:33 pm

Lugo Will Get Ol Yellered Tomorrow…T’h

if so who is the backup shortstop?

JFP

August 31st, 2011
6:33 pm

Shaun, there is no way to determine what a player is going to do at any age. People mature at different ages and reach their prime at different times. The only thing the Braves can do is make decisions based on scouting and experience. Once you have committed to these decisions, you have to adapt and adjust and that is what they have done. Personally, I feel pretty comfortable with most of the decisions they have made. It is not nearly as complicated as you make it. Most of the Braves decision makers have probably been making these decisions for as long as you are old.

mpimentel

August 31st, 2011
6:34 pm

release julio lugo…and sign miguel tejada….I heard that the WORLD SERIES CHAMPS leave him out of roster today…

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:35 pm

make decisions based on scouting and experience. ….JFP

as the Bowden Insider article pointed out yesterday, many of those decisions are now being made with a significant input from modern stats. Both should be used,

Rob from SC

August 31st, 2011
6:36 pm

Wait until next season when Heyward is healthy and uses the offseason to fix his swing. He is going to make a lot of bloggers look stupid.

Heath

August 31st, 2011
6:37 pm

Tejada apparently was unhappy with Bochy (who is often viewed as a really good player’s manager like Cox) because he was asked to bunt. Over-all, he was not a good fit for the ball club. I think we can do better than Tejada both on the field and off. So, no thanks.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
6:40 pm

Rob

Many bloggers do not need Heyward’s help!!

Murph

August 31st, 2011
6:41 pm

Is it just my mind playing tricks on me or has Freeman done worse since being moved out of the 3 spot in the lineup? And, likewise, has McCann done all that great hitting in the 3rd spot? One of you stat computers, post some stats to make me understand why these two are hitting where they are.

1. Bourn
2. Prado
3. Freeman
4. Uggla
5. McCann
6. Jones
7. Diaz
8. Gonzo

CrαZy

August 31st, 2011
6:46 pm

Tomas

Todd Redmond isn’t on the 40 man roster he won’t be called up.

JC Boscan, Matt Young, Brandon Hicks, Anthony Varvaro, Teheran, Delgado, and Gearrin

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:46 pm

stats are somewhat iffy when discussing hitting slots since the sample sizes are usually too small to be reliable. It is more often a gut feeling being used.
You know. like batting Schafer leadoff cause you think he has the highest OBP on the team…oops :oops:

CrαZy

August 31st, 2011
6:48 pm

Not sure about Nate’s health to be on Sept roster and I really don’t care!

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:49 pm

good posibilities on that list CraZy. onliest thang is that they is most all pretty young. I wonder if they might not bring up a more experienced player, though i’m not sure who that might be….

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:50 pm

Nate is gonna tear it up somewhere next season, if he really did have that hernia for a long time

Brava

August 31st, 2011
6:52 pm

Wait until next season when Heyward is healthy and uses the offseason to fix his swing. He is going to make a lot of bloggers look stupid.

The same can be said if he doesn’t.

Brava

August 31st, 2011
6:54 pm

Go Braves!!!!

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:54 pm

The same can be said if he doesn’t….Brava

true and there appears to be a lot of folks here who seem to be rooting for him to fail

DS1

August 31st, 2011
6:54 pm

Won’t need Young w/ McLouth and Georgie……..

L-Town Scrub

August 31st, 2011
6:54 pm

murph, i agree with your comments about freeman, and your line up 100%

CrαZy

August 31st, 2011
6:54 pm

noliee

I refuse to type any of those names on a sept call up list!

George

August 31st, 2011
6:55 pm

Good evening y’ll\
Did y’ll miss me? My computer has a virus and I am here useing a loaner. Good to have MATT back with us, hope he can help, we need to after last night. I know a lefthander is going for them, but I do question FREDDY hitting 7th.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
6:56 pm

Murph And, likewise, has McCann done all that great hitting in the 3rd spot?

Not especially…

Career batting third: .234 (45-192) 6 2B, 11 HR, 26 RBI, 17 BB, 32 K, .300 OBP

Career batting fifth: .292 (271-927), 64 2B, 2 3B, 46 HR, 182 RBI, 98 BB, 139 K, .362 OBP

Yeah, I cann totally see why Fredi would bat him 3rd… :roll: (ITS) :x

DS1

August 31st, 2011
6:56 pm

nolie

I continue to be amazed at the stupidity of some.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:57 pm

perhaps Fredi sees Freddie as slumping a bit lately and is playing the cold hand game

Brava

August 31st, 2011
6:57 pm

I don’t see that, nolie. Just folks who are frustrated with his seeming inability to make adjustments. Don’t think any true fan wants him to fail. He has shown some positive signs lately, though.

L-Town Scrub

August 31st, 2011
6:58 pm

great number McFann….we know of Tehran, Delgado and Boscan getting a call tomorrow…any ideas on the other 3?

fredo

August 31st, 2011
6:58 pm

Love hearing southern boy Buck Belue say “tomorrow’s starter Chen Ming-Wang”.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
6:59 pm

I guess that has to do with the differences in our outlook and posts regarding players Brava

Heath

August 31st, 2011
7:00 pm

Mike Stanton gets 41% of the vote to win the public’s opinion on who is the best under 24 guy…. Kershaw was on the list.

CrαZy

August 31st, 2011
7:00 pm

Won’t need Young w/ McLouth and Georgie……

They said 6 weeks for McOut and that was only 4 weeks ago that puts his return in mid sept plus he has no AAA to rehab in so…I’m not convinced he’ll be playing any more this year.

CB

August 31st, 2011
7:00 pm

Ease,did you put that virus on George’s computer?

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
7:02 pm

GameTime!

All Da Way Turn’t Up!

George

August 31st, 2011
7:02 pm

Almost gamestart so outta here. Have a good one y’ll. We sure need a win tonight to get back on track, if they have a righty going tomorrow I want to see BIFF starting.
GO GET EM BRAVES

Brava

August 31st, 2011
7:03 pm

Thankfully, we have differences in our outlook and posts, nolie. This blog would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Heath

August 31st, 2011
7:03 pm

I don’t want Heyward to fail… he’s a Brave… I want him to hit 1.000 with a HR in every at bat. He’s not though, especially against lefties. Right now, we’re still technically in a playoff race and we’re in need of determining our best chances to win in the playoffs…so, I have no problem with playing a guy like Constanza or Diaz if it gives a better chance to win now, this season; even if Heyward will be our best option long term.

Brava

August 31st, 2011
7:04 pm

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
7:04 pm

Good Ol Buck Belue Was Going Off Earlier about losing last night! I thought he was the Biggest Braves Homer on radio out here?

Maybe he is just tard of us getting our Asses handed to us by the nats?

DS1

August 31st, 2011
7:04 pm

Crazy

How many short, weak hitting LH OF’ers do we need.

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
7:05 pm

Brava

“Thankfully, we have differences in our outlook and posts, nolie. This blog would be awfully boring if everyone agreed on everything.”

Co-Sign on that :)

George

August 31st, 2011
7:07 pm

One more thing. I missed almost everyone on blog.

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
7:09 pm

I still don’t understand how Matt Cain is a “decent” #2 starter. That’s just super conservative for me. And no, there aren’t 30 #1 starters in the sport. Also, I think there is a difference between a #1 starter and an Ace. That’s just me though.

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:10 pm

Murph

“Is it just my mind playing tricks on me or has Freeman done worse since being moved out of the 3 spot in the lineup? ”

Co-Sign! on that! I love Matty D but Fredi’s Brain is on that Tequila for Batting Matty D 6th! I don’t believe in The L-R-L-R stuff when making lineups

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
7:11 pm

Doc Holliday

August 31st, 2011
7:12 pm

Is there any reason, news, comment or anything at all of whats wrong with JJ?

He has deflated so badly……….

Does that knee has anything to do with it?

Is he rusty?

Arm?

Tired?

Im lost here……….

I think this team is thinking WS ring……….they are thinking big…………too much traffic last 10 months…………..I mean:
Uggla
Consntanza
Bourn
Sherill
Linebrink
Now Diaz
Proctor gone
Benching Heyward
Giving up on Schafer to bring Bourn (I loved Schafer, but I loved the move also)
Bringing up the kids to pitch.

They just need to do what they need to do with Lowe cause he is killing this team.

This team is trying hard……..I like it

On the other hand Im kind of worried, cause our SP is in deep trouble.

If playoffs were to start tomorrow, we would have to go:
1. Huddy
2. Beachy.
3. We are toasted
4. toasted.

Right now, we are not a threat for any contender. Our SP needs to rediscover themselves or we will be in deep trouble.

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:12 pm

What Happened To The Porn Star with the Porn-stache? Bill Hohn? I haven’t seen him in one of our games in A Gripp?

Is MLB saving him to Screw Us in The Playoffs?

Here Comes Worthless!

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
7:12 pm

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:15 pm

Lowe

Make Werthless Beat you instead of Future Brave: Zimmerman!

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:15 pm

L-Town Scrub great number McFann

Thanks!…

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

Bourn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

Over the last three calendar years, Matt Cain has a 12.7 WAR(6th in NL), a 3.98 xFIP(17th in NL), and has thrown the 2nd most innings in the league. I think he’s a great #2 starter, a good #1 starter, and a borderline ace.

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

ump has a tight zone, Lowe threw a lot of close pitches that seemed likestrikes to me vs Werth

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

WOOOOOOOOOOO

Schafer Doesnt catch that!

Brava

August 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

Nice, Mikey!!

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

Nice play by Michael to run that down!

kwajbraves

August 31st, 2011
7:17 pm

Welcome back Matty. I know that I’m late with this comment but I did not know about this trade until about 15 minutes ago.

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:17 pm

This Nats Team is starting to remind me of the expos of 1991-1994. They are pests!

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:17 pm

Bourn really getting comfortable in CF, I really like him

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
7:18 pm

Lowe got hit pretty good though.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:18 pm

Some great plays in that inning!

COME ON, OFFENSE!!!!!

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
7:19 pm

Schafer has a good chance at catching that imo. He was/is a good CF.

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:20 pm

Whats The OVER/UNDER on Attendance Tonight?

I’m guessing 19,000?

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
7:20 pm

Not a bad 1st defensively. Evening everyone. Can’t wait to see MattE Diaz get his at bat, so lets swing some bats, boys, and make it happen this first inning.

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:21 pm

Lannan is a 12-14 game winner with the Yankees having a 3.60 ERA. He’s not bad! He just plays on a Garbage team

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
7:21 pm

Ricky Nolasco has a 3.38 xFIP over the last two years. That would make him the 5th best starter in the league over that period of time. Not a chance I’d take him over Matt Cain.

ChrisfromSacramento,Ca

August 31st, 2011
7:21 pm

Player to be named later in Diaz trade:

Jason Heyward, let them have that overrated bum

kwajbraves

August 31st, 2011
7:22 pm

Make Werthless Beat you instead of Future Brave: Zimmerman!

I like your thinking. Zimmerman would be a nice replacement for Chipper but I think that the NATS may not want to give him up. When he is up for FA?

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:22 pm

Martini Looks Nasty Right now! Not good!

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
7:23 pm

Well, dang, Bourne and Marteen not getting it done to get MattE up there.

kwajbraves

August 31st, 2011
7:23 pm

Prado is looking more and more like AGON. He swinging to piches outside the strike zone.

ChrisfromSacramento,Ca

August 31st, 2011
7:23 pm

Martin = struggling

Rilo

August 31st, 2011
7:23 pm

Yep, totally picked up Lannan for my fantasy team for this game only. Sure hope I’m wrong.

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
7:23 pm

And that isn’t to make light of xFIP. I just think there are more things to look at than one stat. But Shaun, as always points to one thing and calls it gold.

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Zimmerman will be Chipper’s Heir Apparent!

Bank On It! We will have a lot of money and dead contracts off the books by then

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Well, that wasn’t good.

ijonathan

August 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Is it just me, or did Shaun disappear once confronted with Chipper’s post-30 statistical “decline”?

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Put Chipper back hitting 3rd. Mac would be best hitting 5th imo. Course Uggla at best hitting cleanup.

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
7:25 pm

The offense is cold right now. Tough to watch.

ijonathan

August 31st, 2011
7:25 pm

For old times sake, I bet Matty D takes a chin-high fastball and lines it to right center, then gets thrown out trying to stretch it into a double.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
7:26 pm

Tomahawkin-

Why would the Nats give up Zimmerman?

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:26 pm

Prado has had a really bad year to what I expected out of him. He just doesn’t look right, everything he swung at last year was a line drive it seemed, and he hit those high fastballs very well

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
7:26 pm

I do find it interesting that Diaz was acquired with that 2 million dollar price tag on him for next year. I think Hinske is a solid player at 1.5 million. Just not sure who plays CF next year if Bourn needs a day. Perhaps they will work to acquire a back up/utility SS who can also play CF in a pinch.

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:27 pm

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
7:28 pm

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
7:25 pm

The offense is cold right now. Tough to watch.

The offense is always flat after off-days,about the 3rd inning tonight they will get rolling!!!!!!
I expect a nice win tonight,that starts a new winning streak…………..

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
7:28 pm

Lowe better figure out his sinker and offspeed stuff. Nats will explode on him quick if he doesn’t.

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:29 pm

Tomas

“Prado has had a really bad year to what I expected out of him.”

C’mon man? The Dude missed 6 weeks?

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
7:29 pm

frim

August 31st, 2011
7:26 pm

I do find it interesting that Diaz was acquired with that 2 million dollar price tag on him for next year. I think Hinske is a solid player at 1.5 million. Just not sure who plays CF next year if Bourn needs a day. Perhaps they will work to acquire a back up/utility SS who can also play CF in a pin

Get Omar back problem solved.(Constansa plays center i think)

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
7:30 pm

Derrick has been saving his bullets all year……And He is now gonna turn into september Lowe!!!!!!!!!

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:31 pm

Nice Inning!

Brava

August 31st, 2011
7:31 pm

Woohoo! Now let’s score some runs!

Brava

August 31st, 2011
7:32 pm

I hope so, Bravefaninok.

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
7:32 pm

Diaz put his old weight back on it looks like. I remember last year, or ‘09, he had really trimmed down.

Kat

August 31st, 2011
7:32 pm

David, nice blog. Good read on Diaz.

Hopefully the team puts some runs on the board for Lowe– more than they did for him in Chicago last week.

ijonathan

August 31st, 2011
7:32 pm

JJ = Derek Lowe velocity without Derek Lowe movement

jimbo

August 31st, 2011
7:32 pm

Diaz same as crime dog, that’s just plain crazy.

flange1

August 31st, 2011
7:33 pm

Efrim,

Didn’t DOB say that the Braves were receiving cash back from the Pirates to cover 2012?

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
7:34 pm

OLD MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
7:34 pm

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
7:34 pm

CHIPPER!!!!!

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
7:34 pm

WTG Old Mannnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:34 pm

tomahawkin, the power numbers are the only thing that should be affected by that, you can’t tell me you expected a 260 AVG and a 314 OBP…

Way to go Chipper!!!

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:34 pm

HOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

BOOM SHOT LOCK BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brava

August 31st, 2011
7:35 pm

Chipper with da BOMB!!!!!!

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:35 pm

Yay, Chipper!!! :D

GET LANNAN!!

JC from DR!

August 31st, 2011
7:35 pm

Come on Braves! Make it 3 in a row! After all, a losing streak after a good run, is you modus operandi…

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
7:35 pm

MATTEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:36 pm

typical Diaz

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
7:36 pm

Mattttttttyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

Brava

August 31st, 2011
7:36 pm

Matty!!!!!!!!

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
7:36 pm

MattyD providing a familiar and happy sight! :)

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:36 pm

HOORAY!!! :D Welcome back, MattE!!!

JC from DR!

August 31st, 2011
7:36 pm

And just as I was typing my bitching…

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:36 pm

The secret weapon

ChrisfromSacramento,Ca

August 31st, 2011
7:36 pm

Congrats Hoss,

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
7:36 pm

MattE just looks right in that Braves #23 :D

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:37 pm

@Tomas

Agreed about Martini’s BA and especially OBP.

A Good Last month starting in Mid September On is Imperative to a Good run and not getting Upset in the 1st Round Again…

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:38 pm

“Watch Yo-Self! Show Me What Your Working With!”

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
7:38 pm

I’m late to the party, but here it is

CHIPPERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MATTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Earle

August 31st, 2011
7:38 pm

HR # 450. It do not get any better 4 Larry Jones. Stick a fork in him. Cause he is dun. Give his muny to sum one who can get 500 plate appearances,

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:38 pm

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:39 pm

Youknowme

August 31st, 2011
7:39 pm

Well that was wicked.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
7:39 pm

Is that damn over the hill bum Chipper still on the team? I thought they were gonna take him out behind the barn and old yeller him.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:39 pm

Aw, MattE…that’s a shame…

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:39 pm

Alex has good numbers vs Lannan

Rilo

August 31st, 2011
7:39 pm

At least we will clear the Gonzo.

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:39 pm

Fab 5 Fredddie Just Scalded Matty-Ice

That hurt me looking at it!

LAG

August 31st, 2011
7:39 pm

There’s something you don’t see every month…

ChrisfromSacramento,Ca

August 31st, 2011
7:40 pm

Matty is never boring

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
7:40 pm

I’m not being a Heyward-hugger here, but I really hope they give Jason every opportunity next year to play every single day. Not just 20 games either. Part of me just thinks he’s on a short leash next year. An even shorter one with LHP – which is why I think Matty D is here right now.

kwajbraves

August 31st, 2011
7:40 pm

Painful welcome home for Matty. That was a rocket off his ankle.

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
7:40 pm

Chipper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:41 pm

Oops!

I meant to say Matty-D

I need to Keep Matty-Ice In The Freezer Til Tomorrow Night

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:41 pm

cabravesfan MattE just looks right in that Braves #23

Yes he does!! :D

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:41 pm

Chipper could hit 20 this season if he is able to stay healthy

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
7:41 pm

Matty D!!!!!!!!!!!

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
7:42 pm

Hey, hey, hey….its me the Queen! :D How are y’all doin’ tonight?

Glad to see MattE back in a Braves uniform! It was a nice surprise to the day.

Thanks to Chipper for putting us on the board first! Nice HR!!

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
7:42 pm

Just to make sure, is there a good chance we acquire a backup before tomorrow? Scanned over earlier and thought I read this. I think we need one for AGon.

Rilo

August 31st, 2011
7:42 pm

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
7:40 pm
I’m not being a Heyward-hugger here, but I really hope they give Jason every opportunity next year to play every single day. Not just 20 games either. Part of me just thinks he’s on a short leash next year. An even shorter one with LHP – which is why I think Matty D is here right now.

….He will get every opportunity and I really believe he will as good if not better than his rookie year. He wants to learn but needs more than just a day to look at film

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:43 pm

Aight Lowe There’s Your One run to play with until the 6th inning!

Stay Sharp!

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
7:43 pm

Didn’t DOB say that the Braves were receiving cash back from the Pirates to cover 2012?

Oh. I must of missed that. I wonder what we gave up to have the Pirates eat ALL of 2012’s dollars…..

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:44 pm

Hey, watch it!!…

Rilo

August 31st, 2011
7:44 pm

leadoff walks never hurt….

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:44 pm

Hi, BravesQueen!!

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:44 pm

I need To go to Girls Night Out At Turner Field!

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
7:45 pm

No good walking the leadoff man, especially when it is Jesus Flores

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:46 pm

Lannan Bunts Like our starters

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
7:46 pm

Hey there, McFann!! :D How are you?

I’m hoping that Mac joins the hit parade tonight, aren’t you?

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
7:47 pm

Classic Lowe, Braves score and he is unable to come back out and shut the opposition down.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:47 pm

BravesQueen

I’m good, thanks! How ’bout you?

I’m hoping that Mac joins the hit parade tonight, aren’t you?

Me, too! Gee, even with those two homers last week, he’s been in an AWFUL funk for quite some time… :(

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
7:47 pm

Bring on Jayson Werthless!

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
7:47 pm

This is Chippers 100th game of the season…….I seem to remember the pre-season discussion about games played,I f he gets to 120+ the post season I will be pretty happy to be wrong as I guessed 130 games.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
7:47 pm

Hi, BravesQueen – how ya doin’, friend?

ChrisfromSacramento,Ca

August 31st, 2011
7:48 pm

F u D Lowe, just go away

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:49 pm

Knock it off, guys!…

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
7:49 pm

Lowe loves living on the edge and mostly is over the edge

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
7:49 pm

To Jayson Werthless

Ho Sit Down!

Him Stealing Money From the Nats makes me feel a lil bit better about Mike Hamptons Contract

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
7:50 pm

Hello BravesQueen hope all is well with you and yours.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
7:50 pm

Hi BravesQueen!

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
7:50 pm

Lowe won’t make it throuth the 4th

Rilo

August 31st, 2011
7:50 pm

Huge!! Good job

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
7:51 pm

ChrisfromSacramento,Ca

“F u D Lowe, just go away”

Come on Bro? Give him a chance? He hasn’t given up a run yet. Plus He is a Bad Boy! He Ain’t Goin Nowhere. His contract prevents that

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
7:51 pm

Me, too! Gee, even with those two homers last week, he’s been in an AWFUL funk for quite some time –McFann

No kidding. :( Maybe he’ll come around now that its Sept…just in time to be magnificent for the playoffs! :D We have to hope/dream, right? ;)

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:51 pm

52 through 3 IP not bad

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
7:52 pm

Hi BravesQueen

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
7:52 pm

As long as Lowe is getting ground balls He will be fine,some of them are bound to be hits….It is the big flys that hurt him.

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
7:52 pm

Hi, bravesgrl4life – Not too bad. How about you? Its so good to see you!

Linebrink for (Re)Cy(cling Bin)

August 31st, 2011
7:53 pm

JoJo has given up 6 runs in 1 inning, 7 in 2 and 2/3, (including a 3 run shot to Kelly Johnson) … can’t really say that I miss that guy

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
7:53 pm

Bravefaninok
Hello BravesQueen hope all is well with you and yours.

Hi there! Thanks, I hope the same for you.

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
7:53 pm

Lowe Has arguably been our best hitting pitcher?

And Sometimes I want him hitting RISP w/ less than 2 outs as opposed to Gonzo?

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:54 pm

Ohmygosh…that kid…was so cute. Jeez-alou…

BravesQueen

Yeah!! I cann live through a slump like this if he kills it again in the playoffs!! :D

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:54 pm

Forgot about Wes Helms. They’ll have a nice bench for September

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
7:54 pm

MIBravesFan

Hi there! How are you doing?

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
7:54 pm

What is it Diaz says after he makes an out – “GOLLY FREAKIN A … FUUUUUUUDGE- UNBELIEVABLE”

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
7:54 pm

No love from BravesQueen. That’s ok.

DEREK LOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
7:54 pm

Derek Lowe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rilo

August 31st, 2011
7:54 pm

Holy Poop Batman!!

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

DLOWE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

BYE BYE!!!! :D NICE ONE LOWE!!!

kwajbraves

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

Lowe the slugger.

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

Way to help yourself, DLOWE!!!! :)

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

Guess Teheran nor Delgago are not going to be on the post season roster unless someone goes on the DL.

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

Derrick !!!!!!!! doing the huddy trot!!!!!!!!!

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

DEREK LOWE?!?!?!? :lol: NICE!!

brian

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

Holy Cow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go get ‘em Derek!

It is close to his favorite month

Welcome Back Matty D

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

Welcome Back Matty D……Take a HIKE HEYWARD and DON’T COME BACK UNTIL YOU HAVE LEARNED TO HIT…….You are nothing but a ZERO to this team!!!!!!!!!!!

bravesgirlnc

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

D-Lowe “How you like me now!!”

Brava

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

OMG! DLowe with daBOMB!!!!!!

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

LOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

YOU DROPPED THE JAGER BOMB ON ME

BABY!

LAG

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

That’s only his 1st homer? I woulda thought he had one as a Dodger.

Still though… he roped that ball. :)

jason

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

D LOWE SHOWING HE GOT SOME POWER xD

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:55 pm

Better trot than Timmy! :P

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
7:56 pm

BravesQueen – good, thanks. How is your recovery coming along?

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:56 pm

Lowe……Best hitting pitcher on the team to me

JC from DR!

August 31st, 2011
7:56 pm

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
7:56 pm

Better trot than Timmy!

That’s only because he didn’t know his was gone for a moment. Huddy crushed his :D

brian

August 31st, 2011
7:57 pm

Ralph – I would not be surprised if Linebrink had some “shoulder inflammation”

Tomahawkin (11 Time Blog Champ)

August 31st, 2011
7:57 pm

Tomas

“Forgot about Wes Helms. They’ll have a nice bench for September”

I have never been a Fan of Waste Helms! He Couldn’t hit at CBP when he played in Philly and that says something hitting at that park in their lineup

Najeh Davenpoop

August 31st, 2011
7:57 pm

The Braves’ problems against lefties are solved. Just hit Lowe cleanup.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
7:57 pm

That was a beautiful homer, Lowe. Congrats on the 1s of your career!

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
7:57 pm

Home runs by 39-year-old Chipper and 38-year-old Derek Lowe have given Braves a 2-0 lead.

Lowe’s first homer comes at age 38. There’s hope for us all!

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
7:57 pm

HEY cabravesfan, I’m working on it. Give me a break, girl, I’m a tad slow here! ;)

How are you doing? I’ve missed you!! ♥ XOXO

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
7:57 pm

That Lowe homerun was awesome. I am really happy for him.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
7:57 pm

I look away for half a second, and I here the bat crack, and I’m like, “Holy COW!!! WHAT??” :lol: Love it!

COME ON, BMAC!!

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
7:58 pm

B-Macc’s Intro Music =’s Gawd-Awful!

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
7:58 pm

Lets go Mac!!

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
7:58 pm

The old guys doing it tonight

brian

August 31st, 2011
7:58 pm

any of you stat guys (obviously I am not one being an “old man” compared to Shaun) know what CHipper’s stats are since he moved out of the 3rd spot in the order. He seems to be fluorishing in the 5th to 6th spot in the order (and having fun doing it!!!).

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
7:58 pm

BravesQueen-

You know I’m just giving you a hard time :D I’m good. Nice to see you- hope you’re feeling better :D

brian

August 31st, 2011
7:59 pm

DOB – the guys ever let you take a few swings and see if you can put one out?

bravesgirlnc

August 31st, 2011
7:59 pm

JoJo got blown up in Baltimore against his old team. How does he keep getting chances?

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
7:59 pm

Ugg will do something here! Watch!

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
7:59 pm

Mac ain’t right

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:00 pm

DANG LAYOFF!!! :evil:

Kat

August 31st, 2011
8:00 pm

Glad I have time tonight to catch the game– quite an entertaining one so far! A BMac homer would be nice. (My MLB.tv is way behind so I’m sure he’s not at bat anymore….)

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:00 pm

MIBravesFan

Thanks for asking. Recovery is a little slow going, but there’s been some improvement in my ability to move my fingers this past week. I’m starting physical therapy next week.

Najeh Davenpoop

August 31st, 2011
8:00 pm

“B-Macc’s Intro Music =’s Gawd-Awful!”

Everybody could use a little T-Pain and DJ Khaled in their lives.

ijonathan

August 31st, 2011
8:00 pm

DOB, have you visited the new Target Field in Minneapolis? I was there over the weekend and caught a game. Very intimate atmosphere. A very small footprint for a modern major league ballpark. I quite liked it. By comparison, Turner Field seems gigantic.

kwajbraves

August 31st, 2011
8:00 pm

Some people get second chances but JoJO had a million chances. I guess if your are a lefty and breathing then you can stick for a bit in MLB.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:01 pm

DANNY HUSTLE!

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
8:01 pm

Uggla hustle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:01 pm

How’d you like it if Desmond was your SS of the future?

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
8:01 pm

Great hustle by Danny to beat that out and drive in the run!

ijonathan

August 31st, 2011
8:01 pm

Mr. Dan UGGLA! Hustle all the way.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:01 pm

Great job, Danny!!

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:01 pm

UGGGGGG

NICE HUSTLE!

brian

August 31st, 2011
8:01 pm

it is amazing how someone with power like Uggla gets so many infield hits

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:01 pm

Way to hustle, Uggla!

Brava

August 31st, 2011
8:01 pm

Way to hustle, Danny!!!! As usual. :)

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:02 pm

cabravesfan

Oh, girl, I know you’re giving me a hard time. I don’t mind a bit! ;)

I start physical therapy next week…yay!

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:02 pm

Nice hustle, Danny!! So glad you run out every ball you hit…that’s the way to do it!

kwajbraves

August 31st, 2011
8:02 pm

Uggla always hustle. See speed never slump. :)

brian

August 31st, 2011
8:02 pm

give the old man a hit official scorer

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:03 pm

TnBrian Mac ain’t right

Doesn’t appear to be, yeah…

Nice, Chipper!

Rilo

August 31st, 2011
8:03 pm

Errors…..We Welcome you like a lost brother!

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:03 pm

Haha, seems the gNats are having some trouble tonight…. :D

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:03 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

August 31st, 2011
8:00 pm
“B-Macc’s Intro Music =’s Gawd-Awful!”

“Everybody could use a little T-Pain and DJ Khaled in their lives.”

Bleh! They are parts of the reasons I don’t listen to C-rap anymore!

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
8:03 pm

tomahawkin, as a pinch hitter the guy can hit. Great clubhouse guy also, corner infielder, bats lefties well

Mitchell

August 31st, 2011
8:04 pm

Okay, feel free to say what you will but when I saw the 3-1 pitch from Lannon I thought D-Lowe would have had a home run had he swung.

If he had swung at that pitch he would have killed it.

3-1 was right down the middle. Any of us could have gotten it out of the infield.

Not saying I called it but I just thought if he gets another one like that, all he has to do is make contact and it’s gone.

Can we maybe back off the starting pitching now for a couple days? I mean, do they have to do everything?

Anyway, nice goin’ D-Lowe.

Praveen

August 31st, 2011
8:04 pm

Diaz was a TURD with the Pirates. It’s like he is the Braves’ revenge for Pirates giving the Braves mcLouth. The guy was one of the many poor bats on the Pirates. Good riddance.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:05 pm

brian give the old man a hit official scorer

He’s mean…

Couch Tater

August 31st, 2011
8:05 pm

Watch for an increase Lowe’s fastball this inning after that HR. He prolly feels 37 again. hee

ijonathan

August 31st, 2011
8:05 pm

Mitchell, I bet you’re thrilled to have Matty D back, no? :-)

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:05 pm

How ’bout some Toby Keith intro music? “We’ll put a boot in your …..”

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:06 pm

BravesQueen-

It’s gonna hurt, but you will be so glad you are actually doing something that you won’t mind…much ;)
(I’d stock up on wine-or the adult beverage of choice-and…well, that’s it really. Stock up on alcohol. That’s my sage advice ;) )

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:07 pm

Seriously, what’s the deal with Morse? :lol:

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:08 pm

Lowe Will go 6 strong tonight! Its about Time!

Some have it, some don't

August 31st, 2011
8:08 pm

ChrisfromSacramento,Ca

August 31st, 2011
7:48 pm

F u D Lowe, just go away

Mitchell

August 31st, 2011
8:08 pm

I take it back. If I was on here earlier I would have called it. But I wasn’t so it doesn’t count.

But still…

Totally would have called it. I called it. You guys just didn’t hear me.

kwajbraves

August 31st, 2011
8:10 pm

Diaz was a TURD with the Pirates. It’s like he is the Braves’ revenge for Pirates giving the Braves mcLouth.

Didn’t the Pirates sign Diaz as a FA? Seems like self inflicted wound.

keylargo

August 31st, 2011
8:10 pm

Lowe’s first homer comes at age 38. There’s hope for us all!

This could cause Shaun to internally combust.

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:10 pm

Now This Is The Lowe I wanna See From here on Out! Nice

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:10 pm

Mitchell

In your own mind, you know you called it……..

:lol:

Last year was listening to Opening Day and called Heyward’s first AB HR!

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
8:11 pm

Nice Inning September Lowe…..I bet Fredi changed all the calenders @ turner field,Shhhhh just tell Derrick it is september 1st.

kwajbraves

August 31st, 2011
8:11 pm

Lowe Will go 6 strong tonight! Its about Time!

Lowe knows that September is near. :)

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:11 pm

kwajbraves-

Yes they did. ;)

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:11 pm

It’s gonna hurt, but you will be so glad you are actually doing something that you won’t mind…much
(I’d stock up on wine-or the adult beverage of choice-and…well, that’s it really. Stock up on alcohol. That’s my sage advice. —cabravesfan

Appreciate that sound advice. :) I can’t say I’m looking too forward to it much, but its a means to an end. And I cannot wait until that point in time—where it doesn’t hurt, where it doesn’t swell, where I can actually put weight on it, bend it, etc. :)
Alcohol should be a good accompaniment to the pain. :D

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
8:11 pm

Oh how I love eating crow.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:12 pm

Good to see Matty D get another chance with the Bravos. If he is the Matty D of the past couple of seasons, he won’t help much. If he is the Matty D of 2009 or 2007, then he’ll be a welcome addition.

When he was on, there was nobody better against lefties.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:13 pm

What do you mean about Morse, McFann?

Freddie :(

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:14 pm

Getting Petey-Pablo back against Philly is gonna be huge!

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:14 pm

BravesQueen-

Just make sure you open/loosen/uncork the bottle before therapy. :D

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
8:14 pm

Come on Frank, less than 4 hour left to get Jamie Carroll, make it happen.

Rilo

August 31st, 2011
8:15 pm

Gonzo getting heavy dose of outside sliders….tries to pull it…I bet no one expected that.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:15 pm

Ralph-

Did you not read the part where the Dodgers were not trading him or were asking too much? Not happening

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
8:16 pm

Lowe strikes out, makes the Braves pitcher 7-for-25 (.280) with 4 doubles, 1 HR, 6 RBIs in his past 14 games

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:16 pm

When was the last time the braves had 2 pitchers hit homers in a season?

I’m guessing it had to be back during the Mike Hampton DL era?

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:17 pm

BravesQueen

He does this goofy half-swing, stop and strike a pose thing in between every pitch… :lol: So weird, yet…funny…

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:17 pm

Maybe Lowe needs to shag a few flies in the OF. How about some PH’ing?

(he says only half kidding)

Veer

August 31st, 2011
8:17 pm

We have found our number 3 starter for the playoffs.
His name is DEREK “BUZZED” LOWE.

YAAA!!!!
Now all we need is to find our 4th starter.

DEREK LOWE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:18 pm

cabravesfan — Oooh, thanks for the reminder! I’ve had some trouble opening stuff up here recently. I can’t imagine it’ll get any easier the more the physical “terrorist” works on my wrist. :lol:

Trey

August 31st, 2011
8:18 pm

“Everybody could use a little T-Pain and DJ Khaled in their lives.”

Not everyone likes that garbage, though.

phil

August 31st, 2011
8:19 pm

No runs allowed yet and a homerun….

This is a joke re: lowe, right?

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:19 pm

Hey, McFann, just so you know, it was bravesgrl4life that asked you that question. ;)

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:19 pm

BravesQueen

You’ll end up having a love/hate relationship with your PT.

Perlo

August 31st, 2011
8:20 pm

Derek Lowe: OBP .260

Seabass: OBP .256

Stizz

August 31st, 2011
8:20 pm

It appears Mr. Lugo’s days are numbered.

Theriot or Carroll. That is the question.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:20 pm

BravesQueen-

I’m thinking “no” on the “easier” thing. No reason to make it harder on yourself :D

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:20 pm

Nice Play on both ends there

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:20 pm

DS1

I believe that completely! :) That’s exactly why I’m already calling her the “physical terrorist”. :lol:

Brava

August 31st, 2011
8:20 pm

Wow! What a snag Alex!!!

Brava

August 31st, 2011
8:22 pm

Yeah, great play on Freddie’s end too!!!

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
8:22 pm

Lowe pitching well lately, finally September is near

Kat

August 31st, 2011
8:22 pm

Just noticing this — Did Freddie cut his hair or beard?

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:22 pm

cabravesfan –

Absolutely right! Anything I can do to pave the way ahead of time, kwim? And if I’m doing such hard work at PT, I deserve to come home and relax (ie ease the pain) with a drink or 4. :D

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:23 pm

BravesQueen

Oh, oops! I should have my specs on… :P

bravesgrl4life

I answered your Q @ 8:17… :D

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
8:24 pm

BravesQueen – funny new meaning to “PT” :)

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:24 pm

I’m telling you folks (some know), that Gonzo and Freeman deserve more credit than they are getting for this teams success this year. Their D has made a huge difference in our team.

As much as I’d love to see ole Sea Bass getting his OBP up, he’s still a huge asset!

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:24 pm

Trivia ? Answer?

Roy Oswalt or Kerry Wood?

Stizz

August 31st, 2011
8:25 pm

Great shot there of Muscle Man and The Lankster.

Bro-Hawk brothers till the end.

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:25 pm

@DS1

Co-Sign @8:24

phil

August 31st, 2011
8:25 pm

Gonzo….get in front of the ball.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:25 pm

with a drink or 4

:lol: I like the way you think :D

Brava

August 31st, 2011
8:26 pm

No arguments here, Wayne.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:26 pm

Lowe might end up being very crucial down the stretch for this team. Even a solid outing every 5th start will be extremely helpful.

We need either Hanson or Jurrjens back though……

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
8:26 pm

I love Michael Bourn, but he is mired in a strike out stretch right now.

keylargo

August 31st, 2011
8:26 pm

Watch that positivity Wayne.

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
8:26 pm

kerry wood, Oswalt has struggled during regular season

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:27 pm

Trey

“Everybody could use a little T-Pain and DJ Khaled in their lives.”

“Not everyone likes that garbage, though.”

Co-Sign! I’d Rather listen to Avril over that Pop Tart C-Rap

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:27 pm

COME ON, BMAC!!!

Rilo

August 31st, 2011
8:27 pm

1-2 look pretty bad tonight. I hope it’s just because it’s the All-Star Lannan

phil

August 31st, 2011
8:28 pm

DS1 – no question on gonzo and FF….big deal defensively.

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:28 pm

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
8:24 pm
BravesQueen – funny new meaning to “PT”

Hey, I gotta find humor where I can, kwim? ;) I really do mean it though. :)

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:29 pm

AAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!

Cann we get Brad on line one? :(

Ronald Millsaps

August 31st, 2011
8:29 pm

WOW!

I just went to mlb.com and to the Braves’ boxscore and saw “Diaz, RF” and thought, “Is there another RF in baseball who’s last name’s ‘Diaz’???” I then learned it indeed was Matt Diaz, as I hoped.

Welcome back, Matt. You’re certainly one of my favorite Braves of all time.

Strike my recent pro-Ron Paul comment; he’s defending Islam.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:29 pm

keylargo

Just trying to lure more positive leaning folks over to the dark side….. “Luke, I am your father!”

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
8:30 pm

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:19 pm

BravesQueen

You’ll end up having a love/hate relationship with your PT

When I broke my shoulder yrs ago had to do the PT thing before they would ok me to return to work,I hated the pain and range of motion therapy…..but my therapist was a sweetheart(and very easy to look at)…..Love/Hate is a very good description of that whole ordeal.

Stizz

August 31st, 2011
8:30 pm

“1-2 look pretty bad tonight. I hope it’s just because it’s the All-Star Lannan”

Man that guy is gonna make a serious run at the Cy Young award this year.

Brava

August 31st, 2011
8:30 pm

Lannan is a creepy looking dude to me.

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:30 pm

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:25 pm
with a drink or 4

I like the way you think :D

See, great minds do think alike. :) I’m glad we get along so well.

Najeh Davenpoop

August 31st, 2011
8:30 pm

“Not everyone likes that garbage, though.”

Clearly McCann is, though.

I am not a huge fan of the T-Pain/Khaled branch of hip hop music but it has its time and place.

It would appear Freddie Freeman’s taste in hip hop is better since he goes with Lupe Fiasco for his at bat music.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:30 pm

DS1-

But in the end, he shuns the dark side and saves Luke, so he is actually the positive one. :D

phil

August 31st, 2011
8:31 pm

Tomahawk Mafia
August 31st, 2011
8:26 pm

I love Michael Bourn, but he is mired in a strike out stretch right now.

<<<<<<<<

He IS a brave now! Lol…

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:31 pm

I’m good, BQ. Work is a little strange at this point, and the hubby isn’t talking to me much for whatever reason. He’s in a bit of a funk himself I think.

I’ll be on the lookout for that little strike a pose thing Morse does, McFann.

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
8:31 pm

Here comes the dreaded 6th inning for Derek Lowe.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:31 pm

Ron Paul??? What position does he play? Left Field?

:evil:

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:32 pm

BravesQueen-

Easy to say when you’ve never actually met me ;)

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:32 pm

Bravesfaninok

When I broke my shoulder yrs ago had to do the PT thing before they would ok me to return to work,I hated the pain and range of motion therapy…..but my therapist was a sweetheart(and very easy to look at)…..Love/Hate is a very good description of that whole ordeal.

Ouch! Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
I’m kinda torn. Like cab said, I look forward to it (because I want to be doing something that eventually helps) and then again, I dread it. The 2-headed monster. ;)

phil

August 31st, 2011
8:32 pm

Hip hop is worse than a typical Gonzo AB….

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:33 pm

bravesgrl4life

It’s really kind of amusing…

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:34 pm

Ho Sit Down Werthless!!!

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:34 pm

Easy to say when you’ve never actually met me — cabravesfan

Maybe. But I trust my judgement of you. Do you trust yours of me? ;)

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:34 pm

Nice K, DLowe :)

Rilo

August 31st, 2011
8:34 pm

Lowe is pitching with some confidence? COULD IT BE WE ARE SEEING THE D_LOWE of LAST SEPT?

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:34 pm

BTW, just because Mac uses that music, doesn’t mean he particularly likes it. I’ve heard him say several times he uses rap because it gets him more pumped up than the country he prefers.

phil

August 31st, 2011
8:35 pm

Get rid of Lowe, right?

Isn’t that what we were nearly all saying?

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
8:35 pm

That shot of D Lowe after the strikeout of worthless says it all…..September Lowe is feeling it tonight!!!!!!!!

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:35 pm

BravesQueen-

Oh, I know I’d like you. You are too sweet for anyone to hate. I might be too sarcastic and sweary for you :D

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:35 pm

cab

Does that make Mitchell our Darth Vader?

BravesfaninOK

I got a frozen shoulder back in 2005. Took 2 surgeries and 2 years of PT to get back near to 100% RoM. You tend to develop a bond with someone you endure pain with……

Lowe looking good tonight!

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
8:36 pm

Wow, Derek Lowe looked impressive in the 6th inning.

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
8:36 pm

Until right now, notice the announcers barely mention Hanson. Probably ordered too keep it hush hush, nothing negative. They know he’s more than likely done for the year.

Brava

August 31st, 2011
8:36 pm

DLowe is kicking some butt tonight!!!

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:36 pm

Damn Lowe has been Sick the last 3 innings. YIKES!

N Nine

August 31st, 2011
8:36 pm

Who is this Lowe guy? Just a bit confused!

Najeh Davenpoop

August 31st, 2011
8:36 pm

Lowe looking like it’s September already.

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
8:36 pm

Lowe has retired 11 in a row, all but one via groundout or strikeout. 3-0 lead going to bottom of sixth

ohhhYEAH

August 31st, 2011
8:36 pm

@ Ralph and ChrisfromSack
I think Mr Lowe is tellin you both he could give two s#!ts about what either of you think ;)

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
8:36 pm

Good Lowe is getting back to top form generating trade value for the offseason

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:37 pm

DS1-

Not yet. We will have to wait and see…

ohhhYEAH

August 31st, 2011
8:37 pm

i tried to tell all you people he was turning it around, yet you still wanna hate

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
8:37 pm

Wren needs to get to work on that Lowe contract extension.

Najeh Davenpoop

August 31st, 2011
8:38 pm

“BTW, just because Mac uses that music, doesn’t mean he particularly likes it. I’ve heard him say several times he uses rap because it gets him more pumped up than the country he prefers.”

As far as I can remember he’s had some rap song or another for at least three years now; before this one he had “Amazing” by Kanye West. Of course as long as he keeps hitting home runs and making All Star teams he can listen to polka for all I care.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:38 pm

We need to get the 3 headed monster ready. Sometimes when these guys lose it, it goes quickly! We need this W.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:39 pm

Najeh Davenpoop-

Again- he has said he uses rap because it gives him more energy walking up to the plate. He doesn’t listen to it regularly.

ohhhYEAH

August 31st, 2011
8:39 pm

wasnt there a time either early this year or last year when his walk up music was Kings of Leon? someone back me up

Trey

August 31st, 2011
8:40 pm

They need father, son day.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:40 pm

DOB was mentioning that Lowe had pretty good starts in his last 4.

The guy is a gamer. Good arm to have in the rotation this time of the year. I still think we will miss Hanson more than we might think.

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:40 pm

Oh, I know I’d like you. You are too sweet for anyone to hate. I might be too sarcastic and sweary for you —cabravesfan>

Aww, you’re making me blush. :) Thanks, I appreciate that. But I just tend to keep that side of me to myself. ;) I swear, I drink, I can be sarcastic….and so on. ;)

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
8:40 pm

The Hittin’ Fool is at it again.

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
8:41 pm

MattyD with another hit! :)

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:41 pm

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:41 pm

MattE! Looks really good in a Braves uni, don’t he :)

Brava

August 31st, 2011
8:41 pm

Matty is just like he never left!!!! :)

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:41 pm

BravesQueen-

You are most definitely on my List :D

phil

August 31st, 2011
8:41 pm

Wayward…sigh.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:42 pm

OK ladies, let’s have a big group hug and then let’s talk some baseball!

:wink:

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:42 pm

cabravesfan I’ve heard him say several times he uses rap because it gets him more pumped up than the country he prefers.

Haha, that’s funny…

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
8:43 pm

The last hit in Freeman’s bat.

Brava

August 31st, 2011
8:43 pm

phil

August 31st, 2011
8:43 pm

Matty looks fatter but what brave doesn’t….we’ll take it!

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:44 pm

I would have loved to have had a Daddy/Daughter day :( If my daddy were still with me, he’d have been 79 this past May 25th. If here were still here, I’d fly him up here and buy the tickets.

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
8:44 pm

Right now playoff rotation, 1. Tim Hudson 2. Brandon Beachy 3. Derek Lowe 4. Jair Jurrjens

If Hanson is able to come back healthy, then JJ should become a mop up guy in the playoff’s. JJ is just not right

Kat

August 31st, 2011
8:45 pm

What I miss about hugs? haha.

I like hugs, I’m in!

TnBrian

August 31st, 2011
8:45 pm

Is Heyward a beast or a bust?

Stizz

August 31st, 2011
8:45 pm

Gonzalez couldn’t get a hit with runners on to save his life.

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
8:47 pm

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:47 pm

DS1

Oh screw off! I can multi-task….We can talk baseball and emotions at the same time.
JK by the way. ;)

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:47 pm

bravesgrl4life

I took my 77 year old dad down for a game earlier in June, along with my son, brother, nephew and nephew’s 2 year old (who wore his glove the entire 10 innings!). What a great experience!

Almost as fun as taking mom and dad a year ago on their 56th anniversary! My mom was doing the tomahawk chop and the wave! A site to see four shore.

Soph

August 31st, 2011
8:47 pm

I thought that guy was about to fall over.

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:47 pm

OUCH! That just landed on the patio!

N Nine

August 31st, 2011
8:47 pm

Morse really scares me. A powerful slugger.

Soph

August 31st, 2011
8:48 pm

Looking better, D-Lowe.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
8:48 pm

Of course he would do it on the first pitch!:roll:

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:48 pm

You are most definitely on my List — cabravesfan

Awesome! Same to you. :)

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
8:48 pm

Very good 6 innings by Derek, and the HR didn’t hurt, either!

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
8:48 pm

Good outing from Lowe and I agree with Gonzalez lifting him here because a game can escape from Derek Lowe in the blink of an eye.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:48 pm

Queen

I was hoping to be invited to the group hug with all you ladies. And old guy like me has to get his thrills anywhere he can, don’t he?

:wink:

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:48 pm

Well, there went the shutout, but I’m glad he pitched well. Good move on Fredi G’s part to pull him before a total meltdown.

Soph

August 31st, 2011
8:48 pm

Oh, please. it barely got over the outfield wall and fell in between the wall and seats.

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:48 pm

MattE! Looks really good in a Braves uni, don’t he? — bravesgrl4life

He sure does…like he never left! :)

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:50 pm

DS1

Ok, come over big boy….I’ll give you a hug. :D But keep your hands above the waist! ;)

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
8:50 pm

Bring on Easy-E!

ijonathan

August 31st, 2011
8:50 pm

Imagine Morse and Goldshmidt (sp?) back to back in a lineup…

ohhhYEAH

August 31st, 2011
8:50 pm

WAIT…….is this Armageddon? am i ACTUALLY hearing people PRAISE D Lowe AND Fredi G right now? Dear God….the Apocalypse is upon us :)

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:50 pm

DS1, my daddy loved the Braves, but never got to go to a game. I regret that. But you can say, he raised me right.

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
8:50 pm

Nice job tonight, DLowe. I hope this is a turnaround for you since Sept begins tomorrow. :)

phil

August 31st, 2011
8:51 pm

What’s with the love fest tonight?

gcs

August 31st, 2011
8:51 pm

Why is Fredi not playing Constanza? If you are going to pinch hit for Diaz, doesn’t Constanza make more sense than Heyward?

menlobrave

August 31st, 2011
8:52 pm

Very nice game, Mr. Lowe. Shut ‘em down pen. And glad to see Diaz back-always liked that guy.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:53 pm

Just an extended leave of absence, BravesQueen :grin:

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:53 pm

BQ

Gotta get a permission slip first from Ms DS1!!! She might get jealous otherwise.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:53 pm

BQ

Gotta get a permission slip first from Ms DS1!!! She might get jealous otherwise.

NRBQ

August 31st, 2011
8:53 pm

Lowe thowing a 3-hitter. Here comes Freddo!

Is this the most inconsistent manager in MLB?

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:54 pm

bravesgrl4life

:smile:

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:54 pm

Took a little while, but Easy E got him :grin:

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
8:55 pm

It seems like on nights when the WLBB has been vanquished from the blog, the Huggy Wuggy Squad might make an appearance. I much prefer the HWS to the WLBB.

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
8:55 pm

No way we can blow this one.

Good win tonight, folks.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:55 pm

BQ

On a serious note, don’t scrimp on the PT exercises at home. You’ll be glad you did them in the long run! Good luck on that……

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:55 pm

BravesQueen-

:D You planning on coming to California anytime soon? Or not soon? My List is made up of those of you I plan on meeting when I go to Atlanta… :D

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
8:56 pm

Good work by Eric!

ohhhYEAH

August 31st, 2011
8:56 pm

cabravesfan,
when are you coming?

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:56 pm

Chop Chop

These wunderkinds are going to blow one on one of these nights, but we need this one…………

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:57 pm

Who’s up for a Fish Fry on the 12th?

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
8:57 pm

Great job by DLowe. O’Flaherty comes in and restores order.

After two sucky games, Fredi is going for the jugular. O’Ventbrel should mean this game goes in the W column.

I suspect, if DLowe had been on a roll, Fredi would have let him go further in the game. But, 7 innings of 3 hit ball is such an improvement, let the guy go out with a positive rather than a negative.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
8:58 pm

cabravesfan, you come to Atlanta, we are going to have to have a big ole blog tailgate party at the Ted!

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:58 pm

ohhhYEAH-

No idea. Just know I will at some point. Maybe next season if we can swing it…

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
8:58 pm

Lowe: 6 innings (plus a batter), 3 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 6 K. Threw 53 strikes in 89 pitches

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
8:59 pm

bravesgrl4lifee-

That’s the idea :D Hence the List

ohhhYEAH

August 31st, 2011
8:59 pm

espinosa…..hate that guy

DS1

August 31st, 2011
8:59 pm

abwright

Nothin’ “hotter” than a lady that loves baseball, and especially ladies that love the Braves!!!

We got a passel of hotties on here tonight!!

:wink:

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
8:59 pm

I feel like it is safe to say that Constanza’s luck has run out.

DiamondbackMac

August 31st, 2011
8:59 pm

BravesQueen

Good game, thank you.

Soph

August 31st, 2011
9:00 pm

cab’s pup is welcome to sleep on my couch.

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
9:00 pm

BQ

On a serious note, don’t scrimp on the PT exercises at home. You’ll be glad you did them in the long run! Good luck on that…… —DS1

Thanks! I will take them seriously. I’m ready to get total (or as close to that as possible) use of my hand/wrist back. I’ve already been without it since the beginning of June. Never imagined spending my summer the way I have.
Btw, you should see the difference in my 2 hands—my right one is tan, the left one is sooo white!! (from being in a cast all summer. :lol:

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
9:01 pm

Soph-

Nala doesn’t fly. Or sleep on sofas. She will share your bed with you though…

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
9:01 pm

Diamondback Mac

Same to you, friend. Play another?

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
9:01 pm

Prado has become a liability at the plate and I hate to say it.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:02 pm

And I’ve got a spare bed and my pup would love to play with cab’s pup :smile: And the back yard is fenced for them to romp around.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
9:02 pm

BQ

Kinda like my left arm and right arm? (truck drivers tan!)

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
9:02 pm

cabravesfan, you come to Atlanta, we are going to have to have a big ole blog tailgate party at the Ted! –bravesgrl4life

AMEN to that, sister! :D

JC from DR!

August 31st, 2011
9:03 pm

Now Bourn can’t even get on base with the Braves… what a surprise…

Kat

August 31st, 2011
9:03 pm

Funny video from MLB should be put up soon involving Ryan Braun face planting during an inside the park homer and getting tagged out…

DiamondbackMac

August 31st, 2011
9:03 pm

BravesQueen

Sure

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
9:04 pm

Sounds like if the HWS could stage their get-together at a Bark-in-the-Park night, the “Braves attendance mavens” wouldn’t have anything to complain about.

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
9:05 pm

You planning on coming to California anytime soon? Or not soon? My List is made up of those of you I plan on meeting when I go to Atlanta… —cabravesfan

Probably not anytime soon. But if I do, you’ll be the first to know. Seeing you is on my ‘list’ too. :)

Soph

August 31st, 2011
9:05 pm

Socks seem ever upper.

ijonathan

August 31st, 2011
9:05 pm

Kat, I assume Braun was TRYING for an inside the park homer, but didn’t quite make it? :-)

DS1

August 31st, 2011
9:06 pm

I love this type of inning! 3 up, 3 down, quickly. Make it so Jonny!

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
9:06 pm

Kinda like my left arm and right arm? (truck drivers tan!) —DS1

Right! :lol:

Stizz

August 31st, 2011
9:06 pm

Mafia,

I’m thinking Prado will be moved out of the 2 hole if he can’t get this fixed soon. One thing to give Fredi credit for is that he hasn’t had these “locked” spots in the oreder for players as Bobby did.

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
9:07 pm

Nothin’ “hotter” than a lady that loves baseball, and especially ladies that love the Braves!!!

We got a passel of hotties on here tonight!! — DS1

:oops: Woohoo, thanks! :D

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
9:07 pm

Good job, Jonny!

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
9:07 pm

Hell Yeah!

Look At Vennie-Macc!

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
9:07 pm

Great inning by Venters.

Let’s get one or two more runs for a little insurance.

phil

August 31st, 2011
9:09 pm

Prado needs to sit….play diaz for a few days.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:09 pm

cabravesfan, the hubby’s vacation plan for next year is a dive trip off San Diego. Well, they sail out of SD down off the coast of Mexico somewhere, anyway. I am not interested in the dive trip, so he’s putting me up at one of the nicer resorts in SD. I think I might have said something about it before. Would be cool if I could plan it around an Atlanta @ SD game and you and VJ come down for that and we all get together.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:10 pm

Oops, I didn’t mean to bold all of that post :roll:

I wanna MAC JAC HERE!

phil

August 31st, 2011
9:10 pm

Davey johnson looks 100 pounds lighter…

DS1

August 31st, 2011
9:10 pm

A W is a W, but on another night, we could be easily behind 4-3 and the folks would be ranting about the awefence stinking and such.

But a W is a W, and I’ll take it………..

Linebrink for (Re)Cy(cling Bin)

August 31st, 2011
9:11 pm

Before the Cards could barely beat the Brewers, in this series it doesn’t look like they can lose.

Trey

August 31st, 2011
9:11 pm

Well, I just lost any respect I had for your rapper, souljaboy, T.

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
9:11 pm

Jake Westbrook just hit a grand slam.

Kat

August 31st, 2011
9:11 pm

ijonathan .. yeah that’s what I meant… tried but failed.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:11 pm

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
9:11 pm

Fredo shouldn’t have given McCann the day off in New York.

phil

August 31st, 2011
9:12 pm

Uggla only has 30 dingers….

Bust.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
9:12 pm

He doesn’t have to go 15 ABs between hits every time…

:( My lord…

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
9:13 pm

abwright Fredo shouldn’t have given McCann the day off in New York.

No, he shouldn’t have.

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
9:14 pm

Kimmie is going to have to slice through the heart of the gNats order.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
9:15 pm

.286?? Good night…was .306 when he went on the DL…

ohhhYEAH

August 31st, 2011
9:15 pm

and youre scared of this?

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
9:15 pm

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
9:12 pm
He doesn’t have to go 15 ABs between hits every time…

My lord…

Ugh, right? :(

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
9:15 pm

Nobody is the Braves lineup is swinging the bat particularly well right now which makes it a good thing that they have a nice cushion in the playoff race.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
9:15 pm

DOB

You hearing any rumblings about a deal for a utility infielder tonight?

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
9:16 pm

McFann … and I meant that both because it seems to have dumped a bucket of ice-water on McCann but also because you had to go four-five days without a McFix.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
9:16 pm

bravesgrl4lifee-

I would be hurt if you didn’t! Even if you can’t plan around the Braves, we can still meet up for a game- the park is worth it. :D

Tomas

August 31st, 2011
9:16 pm

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:16 pm

Carve them up, Kimbrel! You are, after all, CK.

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
9:16 pm

Lowe has a good outing against the Nats and everyone is jumping on the Lowe band wagon, Hurry Frank you have 2 hours and 45 minutes left, maybe there is some sucker out there like the yankees or redsox have changed their minds too, give them a call.

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
9:17 pm

Bring On Kimmie!!!

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
9:17 pm

Tough inning awaiting Kimbrel in the 9th.

Moe Berg

August 31st, 2011
9:18 pm

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Ortiz’s trip around the bases might have challenged Tim Hudson for the longest home run trot of the year. Put a stopwatch on that one.

ohhhYEAH

August 31st, 2011
9:18 pm

Ralph, go suck an egg or somethin. Lowes last 4 outings have been pretty darn good. so if you dont like the fact that he won us a game tonight, go pull for the mets or somethin

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
9:18 pm

Werth is not having a good hair day.

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
9:19 pm

Ho Sit Down Werthless

Look At Kimmie!!

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
9:19 pm

OK … that was a cheap shot.

Werth is NEVER having a good hair day.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
9:20 pm

abwright

Werth is not having a good hair “career”!

:lol:

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:20 pm

One more out. Get ‘em Craig, get ‘em.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:21 pm

that’s two strikes in the last two batters called a ball.

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
9:21 pm

Come On Kimmie!!!!!!!

DS1

August 31st, 2011
9:21 pm

That stuff oughta be illegal!

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
9:22 pm

DS1 … I corrected myself on the previous page. But, yeah … good and hair and Werth all in the same sentence can’t end up well.

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
9:22 pm

Well, he made that look easy :)

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
9:22 pm

Braves WIN!!!!!!!!!!!

Kimbrel 8-)

Tomahawkin

August 31st, 2011
9:22 pm

BALLGAME!!!

KIMMIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Brava

August 31st, 2011
9:22 pm

Great job, Craig!!!!

Braves win!!!!!!!!!!!!

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:23 pm

Carvin Craig :) Now the leader in rookie saves :)

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
9:23 pm

YEAH!!!! THAT WAS PERFECT!! With the K!!! :D

WAYTAGO, Kimmie!!

abeeeewright

August 31st, 2011
9:23 pm

Now Kimmie can go for the real records … most saves in a season for a Brave (Smoltz), most saves in a season for mlb (Gagne)

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
9:23 pm

ohhhYEAH, sorry I am alergic to eggs, also I am happy Lowe had a good nite, maybe someone will want him during the off season and free up some big $$$$$$.

Tomahawk Mafia

August 31st, 2011
9:24 pm

Nice to be back in the win column

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:24 pm

This was a great game! Getting MattE back was the sparkplug we needed :)

Stizz

August 31st, 2011
9:24 pm

Job’s not done tonight. We’ve got a SS to get.

Linebrink for (Re)Cy(cling Bin)

August 31st, 2011
9:24 pm

Lowe breaks the losing streak. Hope he can continue to work, with how JJ looks now they’ll be relying on Lowe a lot when Sept rolls around

NL East

August 31st, 2011
9:25 pm

Forget the Braves…or Phillies for that matter. According to ESPN, the most fascinating thing in baseball are the eighteen 4+ hour Yankees/RedSox regular season games. Riveting stuff…

up north

August 31st, 2011
9:25 pm

Maybe they’ll take McLout back.

Joel

August 31st, 2011
9:25 pm

I think this Kimbrel kid may be the real deal…

Brava

August 31st, 2011
9:26 pm

Craig gives a great interview.

BravesQueen

August 31st, 2011
9:27 pm

Alright, ladies and fellas, I’m headed to bed. My typing is slowing down…can’t do too much at once. And I’ve been here awhile. But its been fun talking with you all.

♥♥ — to all my girls {cabravesfan, bravesgrl4life, McFann, Soph} ♥♥
XOXO — to all the rest of you, friends.

Good win tonight, Braves!

Goodnight, blog! See you again, soon!

DS1

August 31st, 2011
9:27 pm

Why are some folks (Ralph in this case) so impatient about worrying about next year? Let’s just win it all this year, and then let Frank W work his magic in the off season.

I know some think we need the salary relief, but it’s not set in stone that we have to get rid of salary this winter. Why worry today, when you can wait and worry over the winter……….

:wink:

Joel

August 31st, 2011
9:27 pm

We recalling Moylan tomorrow?

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
9:28 pm

Lowe is a beast. O’Flenterbrel (just sounds better to me) cannot fail.

I think we’ve got ourselves a world champion, folks.

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
9:28 pm

Congratulations to Craig on the rookie saves record! Just an outstanding job he’s been doing for months now! (I know I’m late posting this but I didn’t want to miss the interview with him on the tv!)

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
9:28 pm

BravesQueen Ugh, right?

It’s definitely no fun to watch, that’s for sure… :(

abwright and I meant that both because it seems to have dumped a bucket of ice-water on McCann but also because you had to go four-five days without a McFix.

I could have handled the four day lay-off if that day in Chicago would have carried over better…

But yeah, jeez! Ice water seems to be the word for it, even if it has only been 2 days…

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
9:29 pm

Night, BravesQueen!

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
9:29 pm

Joel – Joe and Tom mentioned Sept. 5 for Peter’s return.

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:29 pm

Night, BravesQueen.

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
9:29 pm

Goodnight, BravesQueen!

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
9:30 pm

Night BravesQueen!

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
9:31 pm

“Brava

August 31st, 2011
9:26 pm
Craig gives a great interview.”

He does. You would think he had been at this a lot longer than he has! :)

Soph

August 31st, 2011
9:31 pm

Hi and bye, BQ!

Brava

August 31st, 2011
9:32 pm

That’s what I thought too, MIBravesFan. :)

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
9:34 pm

If Lowe had lost tonight like he usually does everone on here would be calling for his scalp like they always are but one good game and everyone wants to give him the key to the city. I am just as happy as anyone that we won the game and I hope he wins every start he has left but if he does it will just make it that much easier to trade him, needless to say i’m not a big Lowe fan.

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
9:34 pm

DS1 – not worrying (regardless of time frame) appears to be antithetical to the very essence of the being of many of our dear friends here…

uga-brave

August 31st, 2011
9:36 pm

blog has done gone soft.

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
9:37 pm

If Lowe had lost tonight like he usually does

Apparently your definition of winning 3 of his past 5 games differs from that of many people…

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
9:37 pm

Come on all you Lowe bashers out there, where are you tonight, hideing under the coffee table, come on help me out.

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
9:37 pm

uga- just my nature…

brian

August 31st, 2011
9:39 pm

O’Ventbrel kicket buttocks tonight. Man they are tough.

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
9:40 pm

Vince, some of “many people” are the same ones that were bashing him to death last week.

Brava

August 31st, 2011
9:40 pm

No, Ralph, “everyone” would not be calling for his scalp if the Braves had lost.

brian

August 31st, 2011
9:40 pm

Love to see Lowe start to get it together. September needs to be his month again. Lowe, with his experience, could really carry the BRaves deep with another September run (and enhance his trade value in the offseason)

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
9:41 pm

Lowe is a true ace. That’s why he’s making $15 million. No one has a right to question his ability.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
9:41 pm

Ralph

You couldn’t be more wrong. There are a boat load of us on the blog that aren’t calling for Lowe’s scalp. We realize he is a 3-4 slot pitcher, that can elevate his game from time to time. We do NOT begrudge him his pay. When he was signed, nobody twisted FW’s arm and we REALLY needed him.

Is he worth 15 million this year. Nah. But was he worth signing 3 years ago? Damn straight! And if he stays through the length of his contract, most realistic bloggers here will not mind.

So “everone” on here (your words) would not be castigating him if he pitches another bad game or two this year. Just you fantasy fans.

Brava

August 31st, 2011
9:42 pm

I think Lowe has problems pitching in extreme heat and should be fine now that it’s starting to cool down a bit.

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
9:43 pm

Soph was calling for his scalp – I’m sure she still is… ;)

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
9:43 pm

Even Fredi has wised up to Lowe, one HR and he yanks , he use to wait un til the game was tied and the bases loaded before he made a move, he knows Lowe can give up six runs before you can bat your eye.

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
9:44 pm

Just looked at the “blog” on WashingtonPost.com for the game – 46 total comments…

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
9:44 pm

We do that if Lowe throws 8 pitches to one batter…

DS1

August 31st, 2011
9:45 pm

Doesn’t mean we aren’t frustrated when our players do poorly (Jurrjens as of late, Prado, Heyward, Uggla, etc). We just don’t let it rule our life, and we don’t live from game to game. My “points” tomorrow are not relying on how some pitcher does tonight.

This is the same sort of stuff that had folks talking about Prado being a backup SS. Fantasy Fans.

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
9:46 pm

I’m too lazy to check, but did anybody post the story/blog about Braves fans being the biggest homers?

DS1

August 31st, 2011
9:46 pm

Heck, Derek is almost as old as VJ. He should be expected to have a bad game or two………..

Gotta go pickup some grub. Later real Braves fans………

Soph

August 31st, 2011
9:48 pm

Good for Lowe for picking it up around September as usual but yeah, I’m still the president of the Get Lowe Outta Here Club.

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
9:48 pm

bravesgrl4lifee

August 31st, 2011
9:49 pm

Well, that’s it for me. I like a nice quick game like the one tonight. Good night, Braves fans, good night.

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
9:49 pm

“Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
9:44 pm
Just looked at the “blog” on WashingtonPost.com for the game – 46 total comments…”

Oh my, that’s bad.

Heathcliff Slocum

August 31st, 2011
9:49 pm

September must be close based on D. Lowe’s last two outings – and welcome back Matty. Good start.

Kat

August 31st, 2011
9:50 pm

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
9:50 pm

Lowe seems like the type of guy you could have a few beers with and then race for slips.

a tool

August 31st, 2011
9:50 pm

I’m with you all the way Ralph, tell it like it is.

JC from DR!

August 31st, 2011
9:51 pm

Jack Wilson and Matt Diaz… really? Oh well…

Brian from SC

August 31st, 2011
9:52 pm

Jack Wilson is a Brave. Goodbye Lugo.

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
9:52 pm

It was, bravesgrl4lifee, it certainly was! Take care.

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
9:53 pm

Braves Acquired Jack Wilson.

Brian from SC

August 31st, 2011
9:53 pm

Wilson has never been a good hitter, but he’s got more in the tank than Lugo, and can still play defensively. Good veteran security down the stretch.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
9:53 pm

Night Bravesgrl4life!

Heathcliff Slocum

August 31st, 2011
9:53 pm

Solid second pick-up in Jack Wilson. Will give Gonzalez a day or two off which may heal his hitting woes.

Owl Hunter

August 31st, 2011
9:53 pm

Jack Wilson is here.

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
9:53 pm

Braves traded for inf Jack Wilson from Mariners. He’s on DL with bruised heel but will be ready in 2-3 days. Gave up player to be named later for him.

Owl Hunter

August 31st, 2011
9:54 pm

We have two Alex Gonzalezes now. Better than one + Lugo.

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
9:54 pm

Kat – thanks for the link!

Brian from SC

August 31st, 2011
9:54 pm

This time someone had to get knocked off the 40-man.

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
9:54 pm

Jack Wilson is solid defensively. His bat is about as useless as whatchamacallits on a boar. However, he is now a Brave, which means that he will be awesome.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
9:56 pm

reading this blog daily makes that no surprise Chop. Even our trash is always worth another teams main player

Owl Hunter

August 31st, 2011
9:56 pm

He gives our female Braves fans something to look at, too.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
9:56 pm

Brian from SC-

One would assume Lugo will be released…

Owl Hunter

August 31st, 2011
9:57 pm

Still would have been nice to have Carroll. I would have considered platooning him with Gonzo.

Brian from SC

August 31st, 2011
9:58 pm

Yeah, pretty obvious, cabravesfan.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
9:58 pm

He gives our female Braves fans something to look at, too

Ehh, not my type…

Brian from SC

August 31st, 2011
9:58 pm

Jamey Carroll bats right-handed, Owl Hunter.

cricket

August 31st, 2011
9:59 pm

Best asset in any team’s farm system – PTBNL

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
9:59 pm

I’d keep Lugo. He’s got a -2 OPS+ for us. That’s unique.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
9:59 pm

Great glove. his bat,never worth much, no longer plays at all. another outmaking specialist. pretty similar to Gonzo actually

Chris from the Rock

August 31st, 2011
10:00 pm

Wilson is a big improvement over Lugo. I imagine Seattle is paying all but about $200K of his contract from here on.

cricket

August 31st, 2011
10:01 pm

he’s still way better than lugo

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:02 pm

what would make you think that Chris?

Brian from SC

August 31st, 2011
10:02 pm

How about some 9th inning magic, Cincy?

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
10:02 pm

With a comfortable lead in the WC race, this is the time to start giving a day off every now and than to the regulars. Wilson can play 2nd and short, 3rd if needed…decent pick up for the last month of the season…

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
10:02 pm

Owl Hunter He gives our female Braves fans something to look at, too.

Does he? I don’t know what he looks like…

Brian from SC

August 31st, 2011
10:02 pm

Madson facing Yonder Alonso, who has nothing better to do than try to park one for the grand slam and win.

panamajack

August 31st, 2011
10:02 pm

Jack Wilson, a very slight upgrade over Lugo, listed as a second baseman, don’t know if he can play SS, bats right, hits lefties .239 and a little better against righties, no speed, no power but still a slight upgrade over Lugo if he can play SS, don’t know why Wren would want him if he doesn’t.

Chris from the Rock

August 31st, 2011
10:03 pm

Reds have bases juiced in the 9th against Madson.

Owl Hunter

August 31st, 2011
10:03 pm

Brian

I know!

All jokes aside, Wilson is an upgrade over Lugo, if only for defense. Wren made our team better today.

Big Nick

August 31st, 2011
10:03 pm

I would assume the Braves will place Marek on the 60 day DL to make room for Wilson on the 40 man roster but who knows.

Mets R Best

August 31st, 2011
10:03 pm

Just to keep you guys up to date—the Magnificant Metropolitans won again tonight.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:03 pm

decent pick up for the last month of the season…cab

Poohols woulda been better

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
10:03 pm

Eh, he’s OK…but yeah, not totally my type, either…

cricket

August 31st, 2011
10:03 pm

so, will kimbrel break rookie saves record tomorrow?

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
10:03 pm

panamajack-

Wilson is primarily a SS- played 1232 career games there, versus 45 at 2nd.

Brian from SC

August 31st, 2011
10:04 pm

The Phillies are a machine, man. Relentless.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
10:04 pm

Oh, nice!… :lol:

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
10:04 pm

I have seen the 2011 Atlanta Braves World Championship DVD and…

(SPOILER ALERT!!!!!)

…Jack Wilson’s versatility is one of the major keys to our championship run.

Chris from the Rock

August 31st, 2011
10:04 pm

Booooo!!! Phillies win.

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
10:04 pm

I’ll take a .249 over a .136 for a backup SS.

cricket

August 31st, 2011
10:05 pm

but was he optimal in those 42 games at 2nd?

Owl Hunter

August 31st, 2011
10:05 pm

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
10:07 pm

Owl Hunter

Oh, yeah, I just Googled him…posted my thoughts at the top of the page… :P

I’ll still stay with BMac. ;)

DC Brave

August 31st, 2011
10:07 pm

Was it just me, or did I see the gun hit 100 on that last fastball from cK.

Owl Hunter

August 31st, 2011
10:08 pm

Jack Wilson on the DL is better than Julio Lugo.

Ralph

August 31st, 2011
10:08 pm

Over all I think Frank Wren has done a excellent job of putting togather a great team, lets all give him a big THANK YOU.

DC Brave

August 31st, 2011
10:09 pm

I think that was the first 100 mph strike cK has thrown…the others were high and outside.

Playoffs!!!

August 31st, 2011
10:11 pm

Adding Matt Diaz is the right-handed bat the Braves have needed since they broke Spring Training without Joe Mather (who played himself out of a job).
Actually it’s the RH bat we’ve needed since we decided we couldn’t afford some guy named Matt Diaz. Thanks, Pirates for paying most of his salary this year, and some of his salary next year!

Chris from the Rock

August 31st, 2011
10:11 pm

Wilson’s UZR was 15 just two years ago, but just a respectable 2 this year.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:12 pm

Wilson is an excellent shortstop especially adept at going into the hole

johnpaulcpa

August 31st, 2011
10:12 pm

Another SHUTOUT for the Phillies staff – Cliff Lee – 8 and 2/3 then Madson 1/3 inning.

Yesterday, Halladay went 7 shutout innings in a 9-0 blowout

On Monday, Hamels fresh off the D/L was held to 6 innings and only 1 run ( which was tainted as Hunter Pence fell down on a routine fly ball)

And all these pitching gems by the 3 Cy Young candidates against the NL’s highest scoring team.

One more game to go in this 4 game series and Phils will send the rookie phenom to the mound – Vance Worley – 9 wins vs 1 loss and a 2.60 ERA

Brian from SC

August 31st, 2011
10:12 pm

Chris from the Rock, when accounting for his limited playing time, that 2 still pretty good, as far as UZR goes, anyway.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 31st, 2011
10:13 pm

Oh well…that’s it for me. Great win, but I really hope BMac gets back on track starting like, tomorrow…I dunno, something just doesn’t look right…

Night, all!

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
10:13 pm

Playoffs!!!

See, Wren knew what he was doing all along :lol:

braves4ever

August 31st, 2011
10:13 pm

What a day,Diaz,Chipper, then Lowe, more Diaz , then more Lowe, then Kimbrel,wow Kimbrel, Followed by Wilson upgrade. The ole blog will have plenty of fodder the next 24 hrs.

Kat

August 31st, 2011
10:14 pm

I mentioned it a few pages ago but here’s the video…Braun faceplanting around 3rd.. yikes.

Ryan Braun Wants a Homer, Instead Eats Dirt
http://www.bloguin.com/theoutsidecorner/2011-articles/august/ryan-braun-wants-a-homer-instead-eats-dirt.html

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
10:15 pm

Goodnight, McFann!

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:15 pm

UZR is pretty meaningless over a single season or less. It’s creator says 3 to 5 years if it even has any meaning then.

Chris from the Rock

August 31st, 2011
10:17 pm

The bench for the playoff roster is looking very strong with Ross, Hinske, Diaz, Wilson, Conrad and Constanza, assuming they do the wise thing and carry 11 pitchers.

cabravesfan

August 31st, 2011
10:17 pm

Night McFann!

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
10:18 pm

Well that’s nice. Good bye, Lugo. Nice depth as we head down the stretch.

panamajack

August 31st, 2011
10:18 pm

Agree with Ralph, there have been many times this year that I thought you didn’t really care about making this team better but I will eat crow now and add my Thanks for a job well done, if you would just get rid of Linebrink.

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
10:20 pm

I can’t believe how mediocre this team has been offensively, and yet, 25 games over .500 with 27 games to play.

Efrim

August 31st, 2011
10:21 pm

How about Lowe? Creeping towards a Game 3 start? We’ll see…..

richbrave

August 31st, 2011
10:24 pm

DOWN ON THE FARM

GWINNETT

PPO

MISSISSIPPI

Off night.

LYNCHBURG

No report

ROME

Off night

DANVILLE

D-BRAVES win 6-3. Stats really screwy, so no report.

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
10:25 pm

Efrim,

Fredi’s genius is keeping us afloat. I guarantee you this because I can’t prove it, Bobby Cox would have ruined this team.

richbrave

August 31st, 2011
10:26 pm

Who is WILSON?

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
10:28 pm

richbrave

Terrific defensively, same boat as Gonzalez offensively. Better back up option than Lugo and a nice solid bench/late inning defense addition as well.

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
10:28 pm

richbrave

August 31st, 2011
10:26 pm

Who is WILSON?
The newest Braves backup inf.

http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=333292

monty

August 31st, 2011
10:29 pm

“And all these pitching gems by the 3 Cy Young candidates against the NL’s highest scoring team.”

Not to worry, we have won 6 of 12 against them. That’s the party line any way.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
10:29 pm

So how much of the money are we picking up? It might amount to ~750K. Didnt realize we had that much left in the FO.

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
10:29 pm

richbrave

He is a former Pirate who used to give Braves fits when he robbed em of hits. He’s been in Seattle tho most recently.

Bravefaninok

August 31st, 2011
10:29 pm

Goodnight …

Kat

August 31st, 2011
10:30 pm

JMan12

August 31st, 2011
10:30 pm

I like the fact that Wren is not standing pat. Diaz, love that deal. Gives us a presence against lefties we have needed this year and Wilson, though not an offensive force is a better replacement than Lugo. I like both deals.

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
10:31 pm

Crazy Bearded Tom Hanks knows a lot about Wilson.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:32 pm

that’s what good pitching does for you Efrim. always been the Braves backbone often to some real mediocre offensive teams.the reason that I thought the Phillies would be very very good this season.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
10:32 pm

Soriano
Greg Norton
O’Flaherty
Varvaro
Wilson

Who else am I missing?

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:34 pm

I like both deals too. with guys like this you never know b4 hand if they will work short term or not, but these guys have a good chance of being a help.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
10:34 pm

Wilson will be eligible for postseason play by virtue by being on the Braves roster as a disabled player before midnight Wednesday night. Since they won’t activate him until later in the week the Braves don’t have to make a corresponding move because rosters expand on Thursday.

Sneaky roster manipulations!

brian

August 31st, 2011
10:35 pm

these two players to be named later. No chance they are named Constanza I hope!

Someone like Redmon or one of our 1B at AAA or AA would be more appropriate

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:35 pm

sneaky snaky Frankie

richbrave

August 31st, 2011
10:36 pm

JACK WILSON, wow! great bench get. Sayonara, JULIO! MATTY D picks right up where he left off, 2-3 as a BRAVE. Kudos to FW…….again!

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
10:38 pm

I dont know if it has been noted – but Derek Lowe was not the only pitcher to hit his first career HR today. Jake Westbrook did so too. He is only 33 and has had only 95 PAs in his career (since he was a n AL guy till last year).

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:38 pm

1. The transaction must be completed within six months of being announced (AKA the player has to be named).

2. The player may not be an active Major Leaguer player during the interval between the trade and the date the player is named. As a result, PTBNLs are basically always minor league prospects–though sometimes a long-term major league DL player is the PTBNL.

brian

August 31st, 2011
10:38 pm

These are 2 good minor trades for the Braves. Diaz will help against lefties letting Heyward focus on righties to get his groove back.

Wilson at the least is a big upgrade over Lugo. Wilson may enjoy being back in the NL and push Gonzalez for playing time. With Pastornicky hurt and not ready at this time, Wilson was a low risk possible moderate reward type trade.

richbrave

August 31st, 2011
10:39 pm

Thanx, CHRIS and KAT. I saw the article when I rebooted to the blog.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:40 pm

those rules I posted leave out Constanza as the PTBNL brian

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
10:40 pm

Goodnight bravefaninok

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
10:40 pm

richbrave

August 31st, 2011
10:40 pm

BraveFanin OK:

Thanx also.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
10:43 pm

Wilson at the least is a big upgrade over Lugo. Wilson may enjoy being back in the NL and push Gonzalez for playing time.

I think you will find that Wilson will be used a few times over the neat month to give Uggla and Alex a break as we approach postseason. Dan Uggla has played in 133 of the 135 games so far and Seabass has played in 129 of them.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
10:43 pm

Lugo was a SS with some pop a few years back. He was worth a gamble that he might catch a little lightning in a bottle. But, Jack Wilson is the better backup to have going into September.

Won’t hit much, if any better than Lugo. But will be a good glove to have if somebody goes down. Last year, that was the death of the Braves when we had to count on Conrad to do things he was not capable of doing well.

But I still take Conrad over when I need a hit four shore.

richbrave

August 31st, 2011
10:43 pm

Without much goin’ on down in the minors, I’m outta’ here. Cleaning up storm damage is killing me. Some actual work for a change. NYTOL!

uga-brave

August 31st, 2011
10:43 pm

offensively the braves are really living the longball.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:44 pm

Jack should get a standing O too since he is basically the same player as Gonzo.
I wonder if Matty got one today.

Choppinmama

August 31st, 2011
10:44 pm

Excellent example of what Matty D can to to lefthanders. He has to work on his high jump some more tho.
I’ll bet he bent over and kissed the tarmac when he landed at Hartsfield. Welcome home, o wayward son.

Congrats to Lowe on the W, but most of all for the homerun. Great to be able to finally add that to your baseball resume. Everyone needs at least one in their career, right?

And, a big CONGRATS to Mr. Closing Machine. Great, great rookie record to put in the books.

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
10:44 pm

Thanks for the game story, DOB

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
10:45 pm

Any chance the PTBNL involves sending Halladay to the Mariners in a 3-way deal?

DS1

August 31st, 2011
10:46 pm

No way does Wilson get significant time at SS, short of resting Gonzo for the stretch run. No way.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
10:48 pm

choppinmama

Now Lowe is tied with Duane Kuiper for career homers…..

N8

August 31st, 2011
10:49 pm

Nice outing by Lowe. Here’s to hoping that it’s the start of another stellar September run for him. If he pitches like that, along with Hudson and Beachy, things will be alright.

As cool as the Lowe HR was, the hustle of Dan Uggla was the offensive gem of the night. Dude always busts it down the line.

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
10:49 pm

But I still take Conrad over when I need a hit four shore

Is this the new terminology for Grand Slam?

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
10:49 pm

Goodnight, richbrave!

Moe Berg

August 31st, 2011
10:49 pm

jaysonst Jayson Stark
Great break for Jack Wilson to get traded to #Braves. His 1,313 G w/out reaching postseason 3rd among active players (behind Dunn & V Wells)

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
10:50 pm

Snotboogie

Craig Wilson & Jorge Campillo also added to that list of former Mariners.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
10:51 pm

Moe

Hell, let’s get Dunn and Wells and have a party!

Chop Chop

August 31st, 2011
10:54 pm

Moe,

At least we’ll know who to blame if we miss the postseason.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
10:55 pm

we had the group of Brooks and Dunn once. were their country parties then?

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
10:55 pm

Braveheart

August 31st, 2011
10:56 pm

Great bench now.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
10:56 pm

So they are now fineing prostitutes in Germany if they don’t have a “ticket” that allows them to do their trades. 6 Euro’s, with no limit per night??

Now, that’d be a good way for the big cities to improve their revenue……..

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
10:57 pm

DS1 – watch it with your liberal drivel…

NY Fan

August 31st, 2011
10:57 pm

Attendance at Turner Field tonight…20,687 (41.6% full). Considering ATL has a wild card team who might even have a chance to advance to lose to the Phillies in the postseason (and is a market with a metro population bigger than most MLB markets), that’s really sad. Next time one of the Braves “fans” complains about payroll, take a look in the mirror…

DS1

August 31st, 2011
10:57 pm

nolie

Can you see Adam and Vernon doing the “Boot Scoot Boogie?”

Peter

August 31st, 2011
10:58 pm

This years nominees for the Cody Ross Award: Jack Wilson and Matt Diaz.

Moe Berg

August 31st, 2011
10:59 pm

Perhaps, if the Braves had brokered a deal with the Dodgers, they could have extended the season until it was nearly time to go Carolling. Alas, we now have signed someone to challenge the Hinske charm–a decade of post-season non-appearance versus a half-decade of post-season appearances.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
11:00 pm

VJ

I’m converting! Going to “loose” my job so I can go on unemployment for 99 months! And where do I go for that fried chicken and RC Cola food stamps?

(for those unfortunately out of work, please don’t think I am disparaging truly unfortunate folks……as I have been there in the past myself)

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
11:00 pm

Thanks for the quotes link, DOB.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
11:01 pm

VJ

Maybe I could get on Darryl Hannah’s BFF list???

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
11:01 pm

Tonight’s game lasted 2:12, five minutes shorter than ATL’s previous shortest game this season. We like.

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
11:02 pm

“Peter

August 31st, 2011
10:58 pm
This years nominees for the Cody Ross Award: Jack Wilson and Matt Diaz.”

My money would be on Matt.

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
11:02 pm

Darryl still getting it done…

Braveheart

August 31st, 2011
11:03 pm

Ross, Conrad, Constanza, Hinske, Diaz, and Wilson is a great postseason bench. Really have four great pinch hitters with Hinske, Diaz, Conrad and Ross. Wish Fredi would consider using Ross as a pinch hitter in the postseason. Makes no sense that McCann pinch hits when Ross starts, but Ross never pinch hits when McCann starts. Even Constanza might be a decent enough pinch hitter, and certainly can be used as a pinch runner or for defense. Wilson really lets you pinch hit for Gonzalez with someone other than Wilson late in a tight game without losing anything on defense. Good move

DS1

August 31st, 2011
11:03 pm

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
11:04 pm

Brian Kenny just announced on his radio show he is leaving ESPN to be the main host at MLB Network.

Brian is good, but, on the other hand, this might make Shaun very happy…

Moe Berg

August 31st, 2011
11:05 pm

Braveheart–I agree. The bench is looking much better after today. My hope is that with the expanded roster, Ross can become another RH bat off the bench. Regardless, feel like some missing depth is now there.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
11:05 pm

WW

How we gonna do with Jurrjens and Hanson on the shelf??? (assuming JJ doesn’t get his act back together….)

Will Huddy, Lowe, Beachy and Minor be enough?

Secretly, I am hoping BOTH Hanson and Jurrjens comes back.

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
11:08 pm

Kimbrel’s past 34 appearances: 33-2/3 IP, 0 R, 13 H, 10 BB, 59 K, 23-of-23 saves.

Cliff Lee’s 34-inning scoreless streak earlier is longest in majors this season.

uga-brave

August 31st, 2011
11:09 pm

WW, happy college football eve.

Moe Berg

August 31st, 2011
11:11 pm

“WW, happy college football eve.”

Actually, not a great eve here. I live just across the river from the Rutgers stadium. They were testing lights and PA system much of the night. Heard many a faux announcement.

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:11 pm

another great night at the ballyard…not only a win a milestone by Chipper & kimbrel plus Lowe’s first HR.

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
11:11 pm

MIBravesFan: You’re more than welcome.

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:12 pm

moe – so you are saying many saturday nights traveling somewhere in your near future?

David O'Brien

August 31st, 2011
11:12 pm

ijonathan: Target Field definitely in my top eight or so ballparks, maybe even top five.

brian

August 31st, 2011
11:12 pm

DOB – game time still not as good as Glavine’s masterpiece versus the Mets (versus Saberhagen or COne if I remeber right – Glavine’s 79 pitch complete game), though very impressive pitching performance by the Bravos

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
11:13 pm

“David O’Brien

August 31st, 2011
11:01 pm
Tonight’s game lasted 2:12, five minutes shorter than ATL’s previous shortest game this season. We like.”

:)

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:14 pm

short games are great the little one has started getting antsy towards the end…next year might be the year I really have to slow down how many games I make it to

Moe Berg

August 31st, 2011
11:15 pm

tiger–I am being hounded to go and eat my kebabs. Even if I hear them from across the river. It is an improvement from the swarm that engulfed my house in Norman, OK. I just could not go anywhere on Saturdays in the fall. I will just close the windows on Saturdays and turn up the music.

Off to dinner.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
11:16 pm

caint you just trade the tyke for a season ticket?

Peter

August 31st, 2011
11:16 pm

Most “real” Braves fans, from my experience, don’t live in Atlanta, like myself. I have still managed to attend nine games this year on a college student’s budget, including flying my happy ass to DC for three games Opening Weekend. When I do get the chance to go to Turner Field, I get the sense that I am the only person who actually cares about what is going on on the field. I was fortunate enough to meet a couple of season ticket holders who actually cared about the team last time I was up there. But other than that it really is pretty pathetic. It’s not like Turner Field is expensive, I find the prices quite reasonable. It’s gas prices and hotels that get me, otherwise I’d be up every weekend. Not really sure the point I’m trying to make, just felt like venting a little bit. And please, do not make the stupid “school night” excuse. Not everyone has kids. Philly, Boston and NY continue to sell out every night despite school being in session. I’m not even concerned about our low payroll. I’m proud of the fact that we can compete at a high level with a middle of the road payroll. It’s the atmosphere I’m concerned about. We got a little taste last October of the potential of the Turner Field crowd I wanna see even more of that this October. LET’S GO BRAVES!!!

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:16 pm

another short night for me thought I might get to converse with Moe at least today (hope the kebabs are wonderful)…oh well I’m lucky I get to blog at all on game nights anymore

when its sleepy time down south…

Braveheart

August 31st, 2011
11:17 pm

Wayne, yeah, very worried about Jurrjens and Hanson. Lowe is doing better, but he makes me nervous too.

Shame that Jair has had some injury issues, especially since it probably affects his conditioning. I thought this comment from Roger McDowell at the all star break when Jair was flying high was very telling about how the organization views Jair’s ups and downs as it relates to dedication to conditioning:

“We’re still in July,” said Roger McDowell. “When we talk about any pitcher, we wait and see where we’re at at the end of a year. Let’s see if he maintains the dedication he has had to his conditioning and all the things he does between starts.”

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/jurrjens-a-star-in-1007815.html

And now that he has been having knee woes, he hasn’t been able to do the kind of running and conditioning he did in the offseason and first half, so that’s a concern

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:18 pm

nolie – the other 1/2 wouldn’t have any of that…I could leave them at home and go but I’d rather tuck him in and watch it on tv.

DC Brave

August 31st, 2011
11:18 pm

Wow…that cK is about to pass the mark for straight scoreless innings set by Cliff Lee is pretty huge.

Do we even really fathom, much less appreciate, what cK is doing?

Nice moves by FW. Presumably Lugo is on the way out…too bad…intense guy. a pro.

Snotboogie

August 31st, 2011
11:19 pm

BfChris

Thanks for Campillo. Knew I was missing at least one more. Wilson is a victim of brain-bleach.

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:20 pm

peter – can’t argue with you especially this year. 14 home games left rolling into the playoffs and nobody at the games. IIRC last year it wasn’t until the last 2-3 weeks of the season that the crowds started building (I bet if I weren’t lazy I could look that information up somewhere)

Playoffs!!!

August 31st, 2011
11:21 pm

Playoff roster: pitching: Hudson, Jurrgens, Lowe, Beachy, Minor, , Martinez, Moylan, Vizcaino (sp?),. O’Flaherty, Venters, Kimbrel.
Position players: McCann, Ross, Jones, Gonzalez, Uggla, Wilson, Freeman, Hinske, Prado, Bourne, Heyward, Conrad,. Constanza, Diaz.
Maybe Sherrill, if healthy, instead of Minor.

Venice Jim

August 31st, 2011
11:21 pm

Peter – does who else attends Braves’ games seriously affect your self-worth as a Braves fan? You do what you can do – what does the rest matter?

MikeInFl

August 31st, 2011
11:23 pm

Sounds like your “college student’s budget” is a tad more forgiving than mine was back in the day, Peter. But, good post.

I think the crowds will be out in the post-season. The reasons that Atlanta doesn’t support the Braves better have been beat to death on here, but it just boils down to “it’s not a baseball town,” IMO. I’ve given up worrying about it.

Anyway, great day for the Braves and great win tonight. We’re off to Atlanta for the long weekend; will be at the Dome for the Dawgs, but won’t get to any Braves games, despite pleas to my hosts (see paragraph above… just not into baseball).

noliee

August 31st, 2011
11:24 pm

you could tiger but I’m too lazy to tell you where……

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:24 pm

mike – when are you leaving town…I might give them the old 5-1 wave on sunday :D

N8

August 31st, 2011
11:25 pm

Glavine was funny as hell tonight when discussing his only HR as a hitter. And especially when mocking Morse’s little “dance” before stepping in the box.

Good stuff.

DOB, I’ve only been to 3 outdoor MLB stadiums (Safeco, Coors and Target Field a couple of weeks ago). The first 10 or so big league games I went to were either in the Metrodome or Kingdome.

So while my “experience” in all of the parks is very limited, I find it hard to believe that any other of the newer stadiums compare to Target Field. My guess is that the ones that would top it would be the historic parks (Fenway, Wrigley, old Yankee Stadium, old Tiger Stadium). Not necessarily because they are/were better. But because of the nostalgia.

I remember thinking Coors was incredible the year it opened. And Safeco topped that imo. But Target Field is just “cozy” if that makes any sense. Right on top of the action.

I tried getting my oldest son to pose for a photo with the Kirby Puckett statue and hang his Braves hat on Puckett’s fist. But he wouldn’t do it (too many people around). Wanted to kick that thing when I walked by it. LOL. Actually I loved Puckett, but since that statue is of him rounding the bases after the HR off of Liebrandt, you can understand the desire to tip it over.

What other parks compare? From TV, Turner Field looks pretty cool. Hard to believe it’s 14 years old.

DS1

August 31st, 2011
11:25 pm

Will Kimbrel approach the Drysdale/Hershiser innings records? I include both because to be honest, both pitchers had questionable calls that helped to keep their streaks intact. Drysdale hit Dickie Dietz (a SC boy) and it was ruled he didn’t try hard enough to get out of the way. Hershiser gave up a run, but Brett Butler (then w/ the Giants) was ruled to have interfered with the SS on his throw to first on the play.

Dodgers bias with umps, I guess……..

:lol:

Braveheart

August 31st, 2011
11:25 pm

Still remember that game maddux pitched against the yankees in 1997 or so. my dad was teaching me to drive. so we dropped my mom, brother and sisters off at yankee stadium, and my dad took me to practice driving. figured game would be a long enough that i’d get enough practice in. but it seemed like that by the time we pulled away from the stadium to go practice, maddux had already ended the game and we had to turn around and go pick up the rest of the family.

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:25 pm

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=mlb/teams/001/attendance.aspx?team=001

last 7 home games attendance picked up…last 2-3 weeks of the season people at my office actually talked baseball with me (which almost never happens)

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:27 pm

maybe I’m not so lazy

noliee

August 31st, 2011
11:27 pm

prolly had the tyke look it up……..

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:28 pm

he is sleeping

noliee

August 31st, 2011
11:29 pm

BTW I received a package from the hag today. The rumors of his death seem to have been exaggerated. Guess he just got tired of putting up with us all the time.hopefully he will return

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
11:31 pm

That’s good to hear, noliee.

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:33 pm

yeah I hope he comes back soon

Braveheart

August 31st, 2011
11:33 pm

so, ugabrave, do you think your dawgs are gonna beat boise and south carolina?

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:35 pm

is it too early to be thinking about spring training yet?

DS1

August 31st, 2011
11:35 pm

N8

Just to throw my 2 cents worth in on parks. I have been in 12 stadiums total (had to remove my shoes to add those up). Old parks: NYY, ATL, HTN, STL, and SF. Existing parks: ATL, SF, SEA, COL, AZ, Oakland and Anaheim.

The new parks are all excellent, or at least the ones I have been in. I go to SF and Colorado the most, and really enjoy those. The Ted is also a fun park to be in.

I spent a lot of time in Minnesota in the 80’s, but unfortunately never went to a game while there. When I retire, I’d like to tour the country one summer to visit as many parks as possible. Now that would be fun.

The food at AT&T (I think that is the name of the SF park now) was the best.

BFChris26

August 31st, 2011
11:36 pm

Here’s my potential lineups down the stretch when Chipper/Gonzalez/Heyward gets days off as well as Prado.

W/O Chipper & Gonzalez against LHP:

1. Bourn CF
2. Prado 3B
3. McCann C
4. Uggla 2B
5. Freeman 1B
6. Diaz LF
7. Wilson SS
8. Constanza RF

W/O Chipper & Gonzalez against RHP:

1. Bourn CF
2. Prado 3B
3. McCann C
4. Uggla 2B
5. Freeman 1B
6. Heyward RF
7. Wilson SS
8. Constanza LF

W/O Prado against LHP:

1. Bourn CF
2. Diaz LF
3. McCann C
4. Uggla 2B
5. Chipper 3B
6. Freeman 1B
7. Heyward RF
8. Gonzalez SS

W/O Prado against RHP:

1. Bourn CF
2. Constanza LF
3. McCann C
4. Uggla 2B
5. Chipper 3B
6. Freeman 1B
7. Heyward RF
8. Gonzalez SS

W/O Chipper against LHP (keeping Prado in LF):

1. Bourn CF
2. Prado LF
3. McCann C
4. Uggla 2B
5. Freeman 1B
6. Diaz RF
7. Gonzalez SS
8. Wilson 3B

These are just some of the many options Fredi now has with the moves Wren has done. September is going to be fun :)

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:37 pm

I had grand plans of doing the park tour this summer with my oldest…no such luck. I’m working on training the youngest early – hope I don’t burn him out.

noliee

August 31st, 2011
11:39 pm

AT&T is about my fave even though you can still get some chilly weather that at times in the summer. Not near as bad as Candlestick was though. Pitt has a nice park IMO. I’d rank the Ted toward the middle I guess

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:39 pm

other than the next couple of weeks the way our schedule lays out we likely won’t need that many days off…now if the phillies get there X and we get our Z I think we can think about rest

MIBravesFan

August 31st, 2011
11:39 pm

I’m going to call it a night on the blog. It was a great night, all the way around – MattyD back, Derek pitching very well (and getting a lifetime memory in the process – :) ), Chipper getting to 450 (here’s hoping he passes Yaz this season, for his grandfather!), Danny with his never ending hustle driving in a run, and Craig with the rookie saves record! It was a really great night! Take care, everyone!

DS1

August 31st, 2011
11:40 pm

For you Turner Field folks, where do you go to get the best food. I’m going to be there on the 12th with Ms DS1 and don’t want a Hank Dog (or whatever the heck that garbage was……)

Tiger, if you’re there, let’s arrange to hook up on the 12th. I’ll send you an email in a couple of days with my cell phone number……….

noliee

August 31st, 2011
11:40 pm

night MiBF. hava goodun

DS1

August 31st, 2011
11:42 pm

nolie

Were the seagulls out in force at the end of the game at AT&T when you were there? I think this is more of a recent (last couple of years) occurrance. Funny as heck.

Great pork nacho’s at AT&T.

uga-brave

August 31st, 2011
11:42 pm

braveheart, nothing would suprise me. but my guess is a split.

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:44 pm

I’ll be there…do you want at game or outside the game?

noliee

August 31st, 2011
11:48 pm

they used to swarm you at candlestick. They were around in the new park too though not overwhelming

Moe Berg

August 31st, 2011
11:48 pm

tiger–Sorry to miss you. Just popping in for a moment. It is Eid, so kebabs must be made and eaten. Food and alcohol are necessary. So I am eating and drinking. I’ll catch up soon.

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:53 pm

inside the game is very hit or miss…its all managed by aramark and they really suck. Most days the brats are nice golden crisp and juicy…other times just seem soggy. McCann’s burgers in CF aren’t bad but nothing to write home about (which is about the statement I would make for most of the food vendors).

If you get up to the 755 club and the dining areas behind the suites it becomes a completely different experience. Nicer food also higher price. 755 club you can actually sit down at a table outside and eat/drink/watch the game which is a nice way to start the game.

Peter

August 31st, 2011
11:54 pm

Atlanta Fulton County Stadium, Turner Field, The Stadium Formerly Known as Joe Robbie, Tropicana Field, Old Yankee Stadium, Shea Stadium, Milwaukee County Stadium, Wrigley Field, Nationals Park, Safeco Field.

I have also seen 27 of the 30 MLB clubs in person, only missing Giants, Dodgers, and Astros.

learner

August 31st, 2011
11:56 pm

DS1,
I don’t know of any great food anywhere in there. It’s all a single vendor, I believe. But if you get some tickets off stubhub that say “755 club” in the comments section, you at least can take your wife up there and eat at a table outside the club – food is not bad, more $ than practical, but mostly good for the experience. The club also lets out into the enclosed, air-conditioned Golden Moon level (is it still called that?) where there are more choices for food, including basic sushi, which suits me well. Or, if you have tickets to sit in that level, you will be able to eat that food. Also, the BBQ place by the outfield is OK, and the sauces are not bad.

But I have not found anything like they have at some other parks, where something local and/or special is a part of the choices and it’s not all the same food vendor. Maybe the Chop House is better? I haven’t been there.

learner

August 31st, 2011
11:59 pm

DS1,
Also, if you and your wife are into BBQ, there are a couple of places within 3 miles – Daddy D’s and Fox Bros (which was made famous by DOB himself on the blog a few years ago before they got their own place.) Turner FIeld lets you take food and drink into the stadium, if you want to get take out and go in.

tiger297

August 31st, 2011
11:59 pm

well at least we tell a consistent if not repetitive story…

noliee

September 1st, 2011
12:00 am

that’s your ranking of the best parks, Peter??

learner

September 1st, 2011
12:01 am

yeah, both typing at the same time, trying in vain to think of anything worthy to mention…

tiger297

September 1st, 2011
12:01 am

learner – always make sure to be specific when you say drink I h8 watching people get turned away at the g8 –

non alcoholic in plastic containers (no glass or cans). You can’t bring a hard sided cooler (and soft sided must have shell removed.

tiger297

September 1st, 2011
12:02 am

ok for real this time

when its sleepy time down south…

noliee

September 1st, 2011
12:03 am

noliee

September 1st, 2011
12:04 am

oh boy a whole entire month away from O’Hawke.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
12:04 am

tiger

Sorry, had to go do some actual work. How about before the game in the park? Can you get there early? I’ll have you call me……..

Talk w/ you a bit closer to the game.

noliee

September 1st, 2011
12:06 am

you should just have tiger fly you to the game Wayne…..

Snotboogie

September 1st, 2011
12:07 am

nolie and others

haggard did comment on one of the blogs last year – I think it was on the first page of the blog that DOB posted late at night. Mentioned something about his reappearance too.

Snotboogie

September 1st, 2011
12:08 am

Last week not last year.

David O'Brien

September 1st, 2011
12:08 am

DS1

September 1st, 2011
12:10 am

nolie

I sat in the upper deck of CF at Candlestick one Saturday afternoon game, and the wind was blowing constantly all game. Some paper/food wrappers were just kinda hanging in place out about 30 feet in front of us for what seemed like forever.

That day was also the day the Beach Boys played after the game. Can’t remember the year, but I think it was around 84 or 85.

The seagulls are getting worse at AT&T. Actually, they are quite amusing. And they ain’t afraid of you either, when you get between them and the left overs…….

Gonna head off to bed folks. Though it is only 9pm here, I got a long day tomorrow.

Bo Graves!

David O'Brien

September 1st, 2011
12:14 am

N8, I really like Target, but AT&T (San Francisco) is just an incredible place — the overall atmosphere of the park and the area is difficult for any other to match. I’d put that atop my list, even ahead of Fenway, which has a similar energy but few of the amenities. PNC Park is also phenomenal.

But I’d put Target up high behind those three or even with PNC and Camden Yards. And I still love Wrigley, even though it’s brutal for reporters covering night games. San Diego’s park is also very strong, as is Dodger Stadium, though they let it slip this year along with everything else in the organization.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
12:15 am

nolie

Tiger fly me out?? That sounds like a plan!

Actually, me and the missus are driving across country starting Friday morning. Got work in SC during the Labor Day week. Gonna spend the evenings and that weekend with the folks.

Catching the Braves game on the 12th, then heading up to VA to spend a week with son #2 who is stationed at Langley. His mom’s going to get his apartment all squared away and mother approved.

Then we will catch the graduation of son #3 from Army boot camp at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri on our way back towards home. He thinks he will get a 2-3 day pass between boot camp and tech school training. Then we head back home. Gonna be 3 weeks on the road. Should be loads of fun! Of course, if you don’t like driving it could be hellish.

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:18 am

DS1 – you forced me to tabulate stadiums visited – no longer existing – Yankee, Shea, Veteran’s, Memorial (also RFK, but not for baseball – World Cup soccer [your favorite sport] and McCartney) – still there – Turner, Fenway, Dodger’s, Petco, Camden and Angel’s…

Almost made it to Fulton long ago driving from Richmond to Florida, but we were too tired…

noliee

September 1st, 2011
12:18 am

have a safe and enjoyable trip buddy.

Joel

September 1st, 2011
12:22 am

Arizona is only 3 games behind the Brewers. It would bw nice for them to pass them, and plays the Dbacks in the weildcard round

Joel

September 1st, 2011
12:24 am

I visited Angels stadium this year, it really made me appreciate the Ted

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:27 am

Cardinals have passed the Giants in the Wild Card race…

Russell Bell

September 1st, 2011
12:27 am

Frank certainly likes to make deals. Good to see the deeper bench. Just need to get the starting pitching sorted out, and then this team is lookin like a damn good bet for an easy stretch run.

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:28 am

Over the past ten games the Braves have a better record than the super-hot Brewers…

DS1

September 1st, 2011
12:29 am

VJ

But did you have to take off your shoes to count ‘em?? Huh?

Nite friends…..

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:30 am

DS1 – being so much “younger” than you, I used new technology – pen and paper…

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:33 am

Braves close to within 1.5 games of the Yankees in the all-important AL Wild Card vs. NL Wild Card standings…

DS1

September 1st, 2011
12:34 am

Jim

On a serious note, did I tell you my first career was in electronic/computers (when 32K of memory was a LOT). Although I am pretty set in my ways, I am a computer savy old dude. Recently had to replace my 3 year old reliable cell phone for one of these smart phones.

You’d get a major kick watching me try to figure this danged thing out. If I ever do, watch out……….

:smile:

N8

September 1st, 2011
12:35 am

DOB, you’re probably right. That park in SF looks pretty cool. With the water and everything. I also forgot to add Dodger Stadium to my wishlist of older parks.

I suspect that as each new park is built they try and put their own twist on things, while using the best things from the exsisting “new” parks. I’m guessing Camden and the Rangers’ stadium were state of the art when new. Crazy how fast the new parks kind of date themselves.

What I can say, is that the Kingdome and Metrodome were two of the most horrible places to experience a baseball game. Been in both of those places when there was fewer than 5000 people in them.

Wayne, I would imagine that each park has it’s own unique food, while there is also probably food that is the same at many parks.

The coolest thing we ate at Target Field was the $12.00 nachos (maybe it was $14.00 – don’t remember). But they came in one of those old plastic toy baseball helmets like the kids used to buy at the toy stores in the 80’s. And that thing was LOADED. By the time we got to the bottom of it, the chips were soggy as hell. Needed a spoon and a straw to finish it off. But tasty nonetheless.

We didn’t get much food there. We actually ate downtown before the game at Smally’s (owned by Roy Smalley). Pretty kick ass food. So we were stuffed. Still amazez me how much Minneapolis has cleaned up that area where Target Field and the Target Center are. In the 80’s that place reminded me of the scen from Vacation where Clark tells the family to “roll em up!”. Pretty grungy wharehouse district back then.

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:38 am

Wayne – you do realize that you are younger than I am…or do you?

N8

September 1st, 2011
12:41 am

VJ that 12:33 made me smile. When I was a kid, I used to get up and compare the “leaderboards” between the AL and the NL and keep score. Seeing which league leader was better than the other.

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:45 am

N8 – just fun to check since there are one or two people who infrequently visit the blog who seem to view the Braves as one of the worst teams in baseball…

noliee

September 1st, 2011
12:49 am

wheres mitchell. don’t tell me he couldn’t find sumthang to bitch about tonight

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:49 am

KJ hit a HR off Jo Jo tonight ( 2 2/3 IP, 7 ER) – stats thanks to cab in the bedroom…

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:50 am

nolie – that would be too incredible to contemplate…

noliee

September 1st, 2011
12:51 am

do you have a link to that “cab in the bedroom” site?

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:51 am

It’s a virtual reality sort of deal…

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:53 am

Watched the summer season finale of Leverage tonight – returning in November…

noliee

September 1st, 2011
12:53 am

dang. sounded like it might be more interesting than BaseballReference :?

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:54 am

Almost time for me to go play “Name That Star Trek” – I have still not submitted a formal answer for Monday night, but I nailed last night’s episode two seconds after walking in the door from my class…

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:56 am

Peter Moylan tweeted for assistance tonight – he was in a discussion with Wes Helms, and needed to know what Helms had done against him – I happened to spot the tweet while walking Nala, alerted cab, and she was able to get the answer to Peter thanks to Baseball Reference… (0-3 was the answer)…

noliee

September 1st, 2011
12:56 am

I don’t care all that much for the way they break up some short season shows like Leverage. Because of the way I watch them I think I’d just as soon that they showed them all at one time and waited till the next year to start a new season. I might be in the minority about that though.

N8

September 1st, 2011
12:58 am

So, this time of year when I’m busy as hell, I start digging through the depths of my iTunes library and decided to listen to The Eagles “Hell Freezes Over” CD.

Before the live section started (first few tunes were “new” studio tunes in 94). Glen Frey says “For the record we never broke up…. we just took a 14 year vacation”

Does anybody else find the irony that that was such a big deal after 14 years away from each othe, and they have now been on a slew of “Farewell” tours going on 17 years?

Too funny. Some of the tunes hold up. Some are just a tad lame for me. But any way you slice it as a guitar player, Joe Walsh and Don Felder are pretty cool playing together.

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
12:59 am

nolie – well, as a technological dinosaur tied to watching the DVR version the week the show is on, it would appear that way to me…

N8

September 1st, 2011
1:01 am

Though I have to note that Chris Berman has completely ruined what used to be one of my favorite guitar tunes in Hotel California. What’s funny to me is I’m not a big fan of Don Henly the political advocate. Yet it’s the tunes he sings that I like the most. The Glen Frey stuff is tune country for me. But guitar wise, Life in The Fastlane still holds up. The way those guitars layer each other is magic.

That was one helluva “backup” band Linda Ronstadt had back in the day.

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
1:02 am

N8 – Henley is at the Greek Theater here in a few weeks with one of DOB’s girls, Lucinda Williams – very tempting to dig into my tutoring fortune to check it out…

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
1:08 am

Not sure if he was joking because of the joke at the end, but Rich Eisen just tweeted:

Breaking News: Yanks call up Scott Proctor. MLB VP of ops Joe Torre orders Yanks to warm him up every night regardless of use

N8

September 1st, 2011
1:12 am

VJ, just finishing the CD now and am still a sucker for Desperado. I went to that Hell Freezes over tour twice. Paid 95 bucks a ticket for my wife and I (before we were married) at the Target Center, and then like clock work they came to Fargo the next fall and it was about 60 bucks per. So we went again. Wasn’t as good (the Fargodome is a horrible place to ‘listen’ to a concert. Sounds like crap in there. Where most of the basketball arenas are much better.

I was never a huge Eagles fan, but felt obligated to go since it might be the “last chance” to see them. LOL. But what’s amazing about them is the backing vocals are spot on to the records. Not a lot of bands can nail those ooohs and aaaahs live. Usually artists will have backup singers to nail those parts. But they pretty much are spot on live. Might as well have all been on stools though. They don’t put on much of a “show”. Can’t imagine how statue-esque they are now on stage. Geezers. LOL. And I don’t think Felder has been with them for some time now. I’m glad I went, but doubt I’d ever kick out the cash to see them again. They’ve rolled through here a couple of times since then and I’ve passed. I’ve given them enough money. :-)

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
1:13 am

I am off – I’ll be back just about in time for the Shaun Show in the morning…

NO MORE PARRISH

September 1st, 2011
1:17 am

The Braves rank dead last in the National League in average (.227) and OBP (.296) against left-handers.

FIRE PARRISH BEFORE 2012 SEASON AND HIRE MILT THOMPSON.

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
1:18 am

I saw the Eagles at the Richmond Coliseum sometime circa 1977 – they had a semi-obscure singer open for them named Jimmy Buffett…I can’t say my memories of it at this point are very specific. Haven’t seen the Eagle since then, but have sneaked in a bit over a dozen Buffett shows. I am a sucker for The Last Resort… and I have to love The End of the Innocence since it was written by my old Williamsburg buddy Bruce Hornsby…

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
1:19 am

Good to hear from a disgruntled “fan”…

Venice Jim

September 1st, 2011
1:21 am

Okay – really – I should go to bed – back-breaking 3.5 hour day of tutoring tomorrow (bit of a respite as schools are just gearing up out here)…

Ward

September 1st, 2011
1:42 am

Hello every one! Heard Diaz is back. I’ll admit I was wrong in letting him go,because of all the out field problems the Brave had at the beginning of the first half. Welcome back Diaz.I’m glad your back……..

Ward

September 1st, 2011
1:45 am

Braves did a good thing to bring back Diaz.

noliee

September 1st, 2011
2:06 am

I didn’t want them to dump Matty for Mather last winter , made a pest of myself saying Mather would likely tank. So I gotta be happy that Matty is back. Hopefully he can pick it up a bit against lefties :D

Ward

September 1st, 2011
2:06 am

How you like this! The Braves get Jack Wilson too from Seattle…… Good job Wren……..Sure up the middle infield……

Ward

September 1st, 2011
2:08 am

noliee: You know that I will admit it when wrong,and after all the crap. Glad Matty is back too,and now we have Wilson too……

Ward

September 1st, 2011
2:24 am

All this I just found out!Good news tonuight!

Ward

September 1st, 2011
2:25 am

Now the Braves out field is fast,and has good D…….

N8

September 1st, 2011
2:36 am

DOB (or anybody that lives in the Atlanta area)…

Are there any local shops down there where I can find a poster of either Kimbrel and Venters together or al three of them with O’Flaherty in there as well?

I had an old poster with Glavine and Smoltz together that I got in 91 or 92 and later found a Maddux poster in a Cubs uniform and my son has them in his room now. He was asking about one with the Braves relievers and I looked and looked online one night and then again tonight and can’t find anything.

Perhaps when you get more regional there is something like that more readily available. If anybody knows of one or any shops down there that might have one, please direct me to a website or even a phone number/email address of any shops.

The official Braves site’s “shop” section has nothing. Ironically, there is a clearance Francouer and even a Casey Kotchman poster available.

The Braves are missing the boat on this one. My guess is before too long, (if not already), that trio is going to be one of the more popular bunch of players amongst the kids that are Braves fans.

noliee

September 1st, 2011
3:40 am

N8 just fly down to Atlanta. bring your Hasselblad, go to a game and talk the three into posing. Take some shots. Go back home and market them on your site, keeping the originals for your boy. Get rich and retire.

Ward

September 1st, 2011
3:41 am

Well this has been a goodnight once again,and yes you can say I’m happy Matty is back,and will learn not to put my foo in my mouth. What can I say? Once again I was wrong,and will man up to it! “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!” “I Have high Hopes”….Got to like Frank Sinatra……..Peace Out………..

Ward

September 1st, 2011
3:42 am

meant to say foot in My mouth! Talk tomorrow every one!

N8

September 1st, 2011
4:06 am

Sounds good nolie. Pay for my plane tickets, and I’ll share the profits with you. :-)

Alright, I’m off to bed. Alarm’s going offin 4.5 hours to get the kids to school. I love getting less than 5 hours of sleep a night for the month of September…. I love getting less than 5 hours of sleep a night for the month of September…. I love getting…. oh, who am I fooling. I’ll sleep when I’m dead, right?

Goodnight John Boy.

chipl1960

September 1st, 2011
6:25 am

It appears the Braves are going for it. Lets get the pitching back on track get rid of Linebrink and get Heyward going and I like our chances.

Couch Tater

September 1st, 2011
6:26 am

Post-Game quotes you didn’t hear…

Craig Kimbrel:

“Well thanks, but the save is a meaningless stat created by you guys in the mainstrem media.”

“92.7% of the fans were standing and cheering for the record. They’re clueless. You give a pass to the little kids because their parents should have them home reading Tractatus Logico Philosophicus instead of watching a baseball game.”

“Yes. If, A = Saves and B = Dollars and B is a function of A, then logically I should appear happy talking to Jerome Jurenovich…even if, he quit wearing glasses.”

“Celebrate? No logic in that. I’ll have a beer to lower my triglycerides.”

Shaun

September 1st, 2011
7:14 am

Couch Tater, It’s not Kimbrel’s fault that bullpen usage these days is built around the save rule and the save statistic and the last inning instead of around leverage, so why not cheer him? The best reliever in all of baseball should be cheered, for whatever reason. And he’s not the best reliever because of saves. He’s the best reliever because he can pitch.

Guess what? Guys like David Robertson, Sean Marshall and Jonny Venters deserve more dollars than most closers, for those who think the save situations is always the highest leverage situation. All those guys are having much better seasons than John Axford, who has 40 saves. If I need 3 outs, even if it’s in a save situation, I’m taking one of those three guys over Axford, and so would you, I would hope. That shows how telling the save stat truly is. I’ll take Kimbrel over all of them. But because he is an awesome pitcher not because he’s racked up saves.

Shaun

September 1st, 2011
7:17 am

People who overrated save total are bigger stat heads and are less reasonable than the people constantly being called stat heads. The people constantly being called stat heads realize there is a huge difference between Kimbrel and Axford, even though they both have a ton of saves. And they realize Jonny Venters is closer to Kimbrel than Axford. But you stat heads, go ahead and rely on the save statistic to tell you which relievers are the best at getting three outs when a team needs them.

curtis jones

September 1st, 2011
7:58 am

Hoping to see Constanza back in the lineup tonight…either in left or right field. Braves are 16-8 when he starts

JRW

September 1st, 2011
8:03 am

DOB – I saw that you were expressing your favorite Ballparks overnight. We were thinking of getting some tickets off Stub-Hub and extend the Labor Day weekend by going to Citizens Bank Park next week. What is your take on it and is there certain areas that are better than others for sight lines etc.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
8:04 am

Shaun, will you ever stop?

Also, still baffled by your opinion that Matt Cain is a decent #2 starter.

flange1

September 1st, 2011
8:07 am

Morning all,

An overall great day in Braves land! Chipper hits a homer, DLowe pitches a great game, and the Braves finally acquire the final 2 pieces of the bench that they need.

The team is now in place, it’s time to get ready for the last month of the season and then on to the playoffs.

Gotta say that even with JJJ and Hanson being iffy, I think this team has a chance in the playoffs.

Last year with the injuries, the team tried, but really did not have the fire power to go all the way.

This year, even with the injuries, the team does have the firepower to win it all.

I am looking forward to watching a great finish to Baseball 2011.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
8:08 am

that’s what good pitching does for you Efrim. always been the Braves backbone often to some real mediocre offensive teams.the reason that I thought the Phillies would be very very good this season.

Yup. Philly is another team that hasn’t been all too good offensively.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
8:08 am

All of a sudden, Derek Lowe has looked pretty good in 4 of his last 5 starts. Game #3 starter…..

Kat

September 1st, 2011
8:10 am

JRW…

I went to Citizen’s Bank Park once… and that was enough for me ..as a fan anyways. The park itself was open and nice so you could see what was going on if you were walking around the stadium but dealing with the Philly fans just got too much. I’m use to being the away fan at Braves games and college hoops/football, so I’m use to being heckled. But when a guy with his kids tells ya you’re going to get beat up in the parking lot by drunk/poed fans if you don’t take off your Braves gear if the Phillies lose– that drew the line. Little absurd.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
8:14 am

I know McCann is exceptionally better than Ruiz in Hitting (Except he does seem to always do damage to the Braves). But with being totally honest, does B.Mac make this play? Unbelievable. What’s your opinion DOB?

http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=18660373&c_id=phi

Don’t count on the Braves going to Milwaukee in the NLDS as of today the D-Backs are only three games behind them for second best record amongst Division leaders.

The Phillies have held the Reds scoreless for 19 consecutive innings their longest such drought of the season. Seeing how the Reds are the highest scoring team in the NL and were 8-1 in last nine when the Phillies came to town, I’d say that qualifies as the Phillies pitching being pretty much on top of their game right now.

Dixie Lee

September 1st, 2011
8:15 am

I was very glad to see Matt D. I hope he can give the Braves a boost. The Braves “powers that be”
have traded off some good talent over the years. Those players have made other teams better. My guess is that Kelly Johnson keeps his suitcase packed because he never knows where he’ll in the same city 2 days in a row. I would love to see A. Jones back with the Braves. Even if no one agrees with me. I hate seeing him play for the Yankees. And I think that Constanza is about the fastest runner with the Braves. Win or loose I will continue to be a loyal fan for the Braves.

[...] started the action, acquiring outfielder Matt Diaz in a trade with Pittsburgh.  Diaz, 33, is hitting .250 (11-44) this season as a pinch hitter and should Atlanta’s bench [...]

JRW

September 1st, 2011
8:18 am

Shaun, you do realize that there is a difference pitching in the 7th or 8th innings when your offense can still make up for any mistakes. There is a totally different mentality and approach to pitching as a closer than in any other part of the game. Anyone who has played the game realizes this. The books don’t take into account situational pitching now do they.

Dixie Lee

September 1st, 2011
8:22 am

I think the Braves pitching staff has got to be good from starting to closing. Each one has to do their part, and do it well,, or we loose. What a shock to see Lowe do something good!

JRW

September 1st, 2011
8:33 am

Kat – I have found in my travels so far that NY and LA fans are by far the worst in almost any sport. I know the Philly Fans have “Rep” but the NY and LA fans are down right nasty.

Mike

September 1st, 2011
8:37 am

So Diaz is soooooo happy to be back with the Braves. Tell me again why he left just eight months ago?

Lew

September 1st, 2011
8:43 am

Mike- Because the Braves didn’t re-sign him and let him explore Free Agency.

Shaun – You started early today. Go back to bed.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
8:50 am

JRW – Shaun doesn’t understand anything that he can’t quantify with his almighty, infallible statistics. Pressure doesn’t affect major leaguers… MLB players perform as robots, uneffected by emotion and circumstance. Otherwise, they would have never made it to the big leagues. Haven’t you ever listened to him?

richbrave

September 1st, 2011
8:50 am

DOWN ON THE FARM

ERIC CORDIER [ND, 4.94 ERA] 4.9 IP, 3 H, 1 R/ER, 3 BB, 1 SO. I’m still waiting to see what the BRAVES see here. He’s protected on the 40-man.

PETER MOYLAN [0.00 ERA] 1.0 IP, 0 H, zeros, 1 BB, 0 SO. I pronounce him ready to return.

‘Blue’ JAYE CHAPMAN [2-1, 2.35] 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R/ER, 1 BB, 3 SO.

J.J. HOOVER [10.50 ERA] 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R/ER, 1 BB, 1 SO.

DUSTY RICHARDSON [2.51 ERA] 2.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R/ER, 2 BB, 2 SO.

Lead-off LF/2B MATT YOUNG [.278 BA] 3-3, 2 R, 3 BB. Lil’ MATTY Y has a perfect night , six times up, six times on base. Now that’s a lead-off hitter.

SS TYLER PASTORNICKY [.379 BA] 0-2. No ‘E’ although there were three by the G-Men.

PH/LF WILKIN RAMIREZ [.244 BA] 2-4, 2 R.

CF JEFF FIORENTINO [.276 BA] 3-5.

1B MAURO JOE ‘45′ GOMEZ [.292 BA] 4-5, 3 R, 1 3B [2], 2 HR [23], 8 RBI [86].
Both pistolas blazing last night sports fans. WOW!!!! What a game, and what a year. If he improves his average 20 points, there will be no holding him back. No where to put this guy.

RF STEF GARTRELL [.265 BA] 1-4, 2 R, 1 RBI [89], 1 BB.

3B/SS BRANDON ‘Skip’ HICKS [.259 BA] 1-5, 1 R, 1 HR [18], 1 RBI [49], hat trick.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
8:52 am

Mike@8:37 – No need to be snippy. Most of us realize that Matt would have been happy to stay. Braves didn’t make him a reasonable offer. (I don’t blame the Braves or Mattie…strictly business).

Hugo

September 1st, 2011
8:53 am

I don’t think Diaz wanted to leave. Geez, it’s not like he’s an ex-girlfriend coming back. We couldn’t really expect him to stay in ATL and play for FREE…

Hugo

September 1st, 2011
8:54 am

Nolieee

Don’t know if you’re on here now. Saw something in one of your threads. What is a Hasselblad?

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
8:58 am

Great moves by Wren, to shore up bench. Lowe is looking like September Lowe. Moylan sharp. Barring significant injury, we are looking pretty good for a September tune-up, and October run.

If JJ and/or Hanson gets straigtened out, and Heyward continues to “regress toward the norm”, as Shaun would say, I think our chances look great. Bullpen is the best in baseball, even before call-ups. Gives the “haters” little to complain about.

CrαZy

September 1st, 2011
8:58 am

Your scroll wheel should be spinning by the time you read the Sha in Shaun. Nothing new to see here move on!

Ease

September 1st, 2011
8:59 am

A camera. The power of Google.

CrαZy

September 1st, 2011
9:01 am

Gives the “haters” little to complain about.

Yeah right!!!!

Kat

September 1st, 2011
9:02 am

JRW-

I’ve actually never had an issue, outside of the normal heckling, with Shea or Citi Field. Probably the luck of the draw on how intoxicated the home fans are around you.

Tommy T

September 1st, 2011
9:03 am

“So Diaz is soooooo happy to be back with the Braves. Tell me again why he left just eight months ago?” – Mike

Pretty sure it was the two year contract offer that he wasn’t getting from the Braves.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:03 am

Martin Prado hit .219/.287/.324 in 115 plate appearances in August.

Brian McCann has hit .146/.241/.417 in 54 plate appearances since returning from the DL on August 14th.

Freddie Freeman hit .277/.310/.404 in 100 plate appearances in August.

Jason Heyward hit .213/.278/.362 in 54 plate appearancees in August.

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
9:03 am

I can’t figure out if Wren is trying to put together a former Pirates reunion in Atlanta. What? Hinske, Diaz, Wilson and sometimes McLouth. Anyone I’m forgetting?

Wilson’s a good pickup; sure glove. Good late innings replacement.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
9:06 am

Hasselblad? A Vampire Life Guard?

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
9:07 am

The Dog Days, Efrim – well, accept for Heyward, who’s having a Dog Year.

CrαZy

September 1st, 2011
9:07 am

Raleighbravefan

Make the playoffs— complain about being the Wild card
Win the world series— complain about not being the best team ever
ect..ect..ect…

JRW

September 1st, 2011
9:10 am

Kat, agreed. One of my funniest moments was in St. Louis when a young Cardinals fan walked by me in full winning visiting team regalia after the game and said “Boo You” I thought it was very cute and funny.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:12 am

Efrim@9:03 – I think I get your point…I’m not too worried about Mac, or Prado, for that matter, and Heyward seems to be slowly moving in the right direction. I don’t expect an Uggla-like result, but .250 with some power would be terrific, at this point. Hopefully, Georgie will continue to contribute, and Diaz will help, as well.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:14 am

Lew@9:06 – FUNNY

CraZy – I said they would have little to complain about…I didn’t say they wouldn’t find something to complain about.

Salary or Celery

September 1st, 2011
9:14 am

Lowe – 15
Jones – 14
Uggla – 13.2
McCann – 10.5
Hudson – 9
Bourn – 7
Jurrjens – 7
Prado – 5.5
O’Flaherty – 2
Moylan – 2.2
Ross – 1.625
Diaz – 2
Hinske – 1.5

Total: 90.525 million tied up in 13 players

12 pre 3 minimum players – 5.4 million

TOTAL: 95.925 MILLION

Fish Bisch

September 1st, 2011
9:15 am

Eat last night’s performance Lowe Hatters!

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:16 am

I just want Jason to finish at .230/.320/.410. That’s my personal goal for him.

Soph

September 1st, 2011
9:16 am

He gives our female Braves fans something to look at, too

No, he doesn’t BUT welcome to Atlanta, anyway.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
9:16 am

Watch on of those pitchers disappear this winter to free up salary.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
9:18 am

Fish – Well, they are mad for the most part, but Hatters?

Nonetheless – Lowe’s given up three earned runs in his last three starts and 18IP. Maybe we shouldn’t send him to the bullpen after all.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:19 am

Missing Gonzo. So if he is brought back, then it’s probably closer to 97-98ish. Who knows at this point – they could end up trading Diaz this winter. Or electing to let Hinske go.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:20 am

Worse fans I know are the visiting Saber fans whenever Buffaloe comes to the RBC Center. They are drunk, loud and obnoxious. They take pride in being abussive. They pick fights in the parking lot, and have been known to vandalize cars with Hurricane decals.
True fact…the hurricanes always hire extra security, and Raleigh police beef up for Buffalo games. Of course, if I had to live in Buffalo, I’d probably be mad all the time too! (just joking).

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:21 am

Wouldn’t it be something if Lowe ended up starting Game 2 for us?

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:22 am

Zona has won 9 games in a row. I say good. I can’t stand the Giants.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
9:22 am

Efrim – I don’t think that either Hinske or Diaz amount to much of a savings. Got to be a higher paid pitcher leaving town – especially if they re-up Bourn for millions.

But we keep hearing they have the money, so…………

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
9:22 am

Lowe’s a Brave in 2012 if Wren can’t move him, as discussed many times before. And I’m starting to think a wee bit that Wren might listen to offers for Jurrjens. Just starting, mind you.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:23 am

So much for races this year in baseball. I guess it’s still up in the air in the AL West….

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:24 am

And I’m starting to think a wee bit that Wren might listen to offers for Jurrjens. Just starting, mind you.

Oh, I think you can bank on that one. He’ll be listening on Jair and Derek.

DC Brave

September 1st, 2011
9:25 am

DOB..can we possibly get a picture of Jack Wilson and Georgie Constanza standing together. Nice to reunite Jerry and George!

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:26 am

Pittsburg is paying part of Mattie’s salary for next year, I think. I expect him and Hinske to both be back. I do expect Lowe and/or JJ to be traded. Also, KK and McLouth off the books (except McLouth buy-out). I expect SS to be cheap, wheather it’s Gonzo or replacement.

richbrave

September 1st, 2011
9:26 am

Salary or Celery
September 1st, 2011
9:14 am

Lowe – 15
Jones – 14
Uggla – 13.2
McCann – 10.5
Hudson – 9
Bourn – 7
Jurrjens – 7
Prado – 5.5
O’Flaherty – 2
Moylan – 2.2
Ross – 1.625
Diaz – 2
Hinske – 1.5

Total: 90.525 million tied up in 13 players

12 pre 3 minimum players – 5.4 million

TOTAL: 95.925 MILLION

I thought UGGLA was due a four million raise next year and was making four less this

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
9:27 am

Is Chipper coming back for sure? Likely, but if he choses to hang em up, there’s a budget savings there.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:27 am

Got to be a higher paid pitcher leaving town – especially if they re-up Bourn for millions.

Yup, it has to be. This team ain’t going into next year with a mid nineties payroll. Even if they could afford it, doesn’t make sense to keep all of that pitching. I thought Hanson’s injury might make them think twice about trading Jurrjens, but if Tommy just has normal “wear and tear”, then maybe Lowe ends up sticking and Jair goes for 3 prospects.

Hah. Lowe ends up sticking around through the full duration of the deal. That’s a good one.

DAP

September 1st, 2011
9:28 am

shaun The people constantly being called stat heads realize there is a huge difference between Kimbrel and Axford, even though they both have a ton of saves. And they realize Jonny Venters is closer to Kimbrel than Axford.

who are you talking about? none of us think kimbrel is anything like axford. so, why are you telling us?

youre making stuff up again.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:29 am

I wonder if they count McLouth’s full buyout on the books for next year. I bet they broke it out over the three years he was here….I hope.

DAP

September 1st, 2011
9:29 am

JRW does B.Mac make this play? Unbelievable.

yeah, he probably does. mccann backs up 1stbase on groundballs to, if you havent noticed.

mike So Diaz is soooooo happy to be back with the Braves. Tell me again why he left just eight months ago?

because the braves didnt offer him a contract, at all. not much he couldve done to stay.

richbrave

September 1st, 2011
9:29 am

Hey LEW:

has the weather moderated from the high nineties at game time in his past three starts? LOWE, that is.

Shaun

September 1st, 2011
9:30 am

Shaun, you do realize that there is a difference pitching in the 7th or 8th innings when your offense can still make up for any mistakes. There is a totally different mentality and approach to pitching as a closer than in any other part of the game. Anyone who has played the game realizes this. The books don’t take into account situational pitching now do they.

JRW, yes. I’m sure Kimbrel would be absolutely no good if he had to pitch in “non-closer” situations and Venters would be absolutely no good pitching as a closer, right? Do you really want to make that argument? Do you really want to make the argument that Venters doesn’t have the “approach” or “mentality” to pitch as a closer and Kimbrel doesn’t have the “approach” or “mentality” to pitch as a non-closer? Do you really want to make the argument that John Axford is more cut out for closer duties than a pitcher like Jonny Venters? If you do, that’s fine. Just clarify now so it is clear how misguided you are on this.

JRW – Shaun doesn’t understand anything that he can’t quantify with his almighty, infallible statistics.

raleighbravefan, huh? I’m the one pointing out that how great Kimbrel and Venters and guys like Robertson and Marshall are great pitchers. You are the ones pointing to the save statistic.

“regress toward the norm”, as Shaun would say

…as if that statement doesn’t make sense or something? Still confused about what “regression” means?

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:30 am

Going deep into post-season would help payroll situation a lot. Playoff revenue is almost all gravy. Hurricanes only make a profit if they make the playoffs.

Around The Horn

September 1st, 2011
9:31 am

RUNNING HARD TO FIRST

Why doesn’t Fredi insist that the Braves run hard to first base?

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
9:32 am

If Lowe finishes strong – let’s cross our fingers – I could see the Yanks biting on the remainder of Lowe’s contract. Otherwise, I think Lowe moves with the Braves eating a portion of his salary.

flange1

September 1st, 2011
9:33 am

Efrim,

Reread this from MLB trade rumors

” David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution notes on Twitter that the Pirates are sending some cash to the Braves to offset Diaz’s $2MM salary for 2012.”

That might help a bit.

With an Infante type player in the back up SS role, a bench of Diaz, Hinske, Ross, Biff, and Infante type next year would be wonderful. Some power, some speed and some defense.

Shaun

September 1st, 2011
9:33 am

DAP, right. But at least one person thinks Axford is superior in his “mentality” and “approach” to pitchers like Venters, Robertson and Marshall because he’s a closer with 40 saves and those other guys aren’t. Obviously Axford is superior mentally and in his approach. (Sarcasm alert)

Apparently if you think someone like Venters or Robertston or Marshall would be more dominant as closers than John Axford has been as a closer, then you don’t understand the game, you’ve never played it and you don’t understand anything besides stats.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
9:33 am

Couple of follow ups from last night…

VJ

Yes, I realize you are a bit older, but I will allow you to pretend it isn’t so, just to keep your ego from falling into an abyss.

:wink:

N8

I learned to go from country to rock (wasn’t too difficult) with the Eagles in the very early 70’s. And I saw them in the summer of ‘76 in Oakland at one of the “Day on the Green” concerts at the Coliseum.

I had tickets to the Hell Freezes Over Tour in Houston in early July of ‘94, but had to give them up instead for a family requirement in SC. I have the MTV version of the Hell Freezes Over video on VHS at home, and it is fun to watch the guitar interplay between Walsh and Felder. You can see it in Felder’s face and movements that the dude just flat out loves to play. Too bad there was a parting of the ways between him and the other Eagles. Never really heard the straight scoop.

As a side note, the country stars CD “Common Threads” is also a good listen, if you are into a bit of country. Word is that the filming of Travis Tritt’s version of the Take it Easy video was the trigger that got the band back together. The Eagles members are in the pool hall scenes with Travis Tritt on the video. Supposedly, they had so much fun getting back together, they decided to give it a go.

I love it in the Hotel California intro (on the video) when the crowd finally realizes what song they are playing……..

Lew

September 1st, 2011
9:34 am

richbrave – No idea. I live in Vermont and it hasn’t been that hot up here, but must have been better because he’s pitched pretty well those past three games.

On another front – they’ve already got power back to 67,000 of the 73,000 that lost it and all roads leading to the isolated communities are at least patched to the point they can now get through. They’re not messing around in Vermont.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
9:34 am

Still confused about what “regression” means?

Actually, Shaun, you have appeared to be the one confused about this particular definition in prior posts. Now, you may indeed know the proper usage of the term in the contexts you’ve cited, but you have misused the term enough so that it’s not a given. I don’t believe I’d try to take the high ground on this one, were I you. Move on elsewhere.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:36 am

Shaun – I’m not confused at all. Just mystified sometimes at some of your coments (like JJ being a #4, for example).
BTW, you aren’t the only intellegent, educated person on here. Just the most arrogant.

richbrave

September 1st, 2011
9:37 am

“2:12 …… we like” DOB

I knew there was more than one of you in your skin. Heh!

BTW, I hated it. My middle grandson’s inaugural ninth-grade football contest. Thought I’d get back in time to at least see KIMBREL go for the record. Instead, I get JOHNNY What’s-his-name blathering on about the GNATS in the post-game telecast. Sigh, such is life.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
9:38 am

Efrim

The playoff rotation will depend highly on how all the guys do in September, obviously. But I can’t see any scenario where Lowe doesn’t pitch in the 2 or 3 slot. Depends on Jurrjens as to whether Lowe is the 2 or the 3. Beachy will be the 3 or 4. Again, depending on Jurrjens September record.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
9:38 am

raleighbraves – Educated? Just because he was beat up on every school playground he set foot on……..

bill

September 1st, 2011
9:38 am

I am confused do we now hav athree man rotation in Right Field?

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:38 am

youre making stuff up again.

He went off like Robert or PL. He just hasn’t been able to stop. It never used to be this bad. Guy was much more calm, but I think the decisions the org. is making is frustrating him or something. Bananas.

flange1

September 1st, 2011
9:39 am

Wayne,

I think Felder wrote a tell all book about his time in the Eagles and he was not all that nice to Henley and Frey.

After the book came out, Felder never played another gig with the Eagles.

Bummer too, love his playing!

Lpad

September 1st, 2011
9:40 am

Does anyone know if J.Wilson is signed for next year?

Shaun

September 1st, 2011
9:40 am

ncscoots, where have I misused the term?

raleighbravefan, actually I think Jurrjens is an acceptable #3 and a solid #4. What do you think Jurrjens is? What is your definition of an “ace”? Is it just the top 30 pitchers in baseball or a pitcher who would be a clear number one on pretty much any staff, year-in and year-out? I know it’s all fuzzy and subjective but I think an ace is more the latter.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

September 1st, 2011
9:40 am

JRW But with being totally honest, does B.Mac make this play? Unbelievable.

Sure he could, why not?

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:40 am

DS1, you’re probably right. Hudson/Lowe/Jurrjens/Beachy and then back to Huddy for a Game 5 if necessary.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
9:41 am

Shaun – No sarcasm alert is necessary – we automatically assume based on past posts.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:42 am

scoot – Shaun always tries to “take the high ground”, if you mean being arrogant, with a feeling of superiority and infallibility.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:42 am

What is your definition of an “ace”? Is it just the top 30 pitchers in baseball or a pitcher who would be a clear number one on pretty much any staff, year-in and year-out?

No one thinks Jeff Karstens or Wandy Rodriguez is an ace. Someone must of done you wrong, man.

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
9:42 am

Jurrjens for prospects. I think that’s what Wren would attempt to leverage, prospects. I think Jurrjens could fetch some quality kids.

Of course, assuming Wren trades Lowe and Jurrjens, he’s moving Minor and Teheran into the rotation. With Beachy, that makes for a young and relatively inexperienced crew.

CB

September 1st, 2011
9:43 am

Lpad,no. Free agent.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:43 am

Shaun, do you just look at xFIP and determine who are #1 starters?

richbrave

September 1st, 2011
9:44 am

Interesting LEW. Down here VIRGINIA ‘power’ still has my immediate neighbors on gasoline generators while you must drive under dangling, and over downed power lines in our neighborhood. Meanwhile, I have power, and have since the event. Having that nuclear reactor scrum during last week’s earthquarke must be crimping their style severely. Living at the foot of the cross my man, living at the foot of the cross.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
9:44 am

JeffR- It won’t be both Lowe and Jurrjens – just one of them. Lowe would bring nothing in return but salary relief and Jurrjens would bring less salary relief (unless they ate huge amounts of Lowe’s salary – which I don’t see happening) and a bigger return.

Hugo Z Hackenbush

September 1st, 2011
9:45 am

DS1, there’s a book by Felder called “Heaven and Hell,” which, among other things, explains how he and the group parted ways. It can be found at the library.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:46 am

I’d like to think Jurrjens would bring what Matt Garza got the Rays, but that’s probably wishful thinking.

richbrave

September 1st, 2011
9:48 am

For our California regulars…………..20 aftershocks and counting.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

September 1st, 2011
9:48 am

raleighbravesfan I’m not too worried about Mac

I’m not losing sleep over it, but I am slightly concerned about what the problem is…

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
9:49 am

Lew, yes, no real salary relief with Jurrjens. But after reading that Jurrjens’ conditioning has slipped, wondering if the Braves are as happy with him? Yes, Jurrjens’s knees have bothered him, but wondering if there’s more there about Jurrjens’ disipline?

richbrave

September 1st, 2011
9:50 am

So JURRGENS is on the block folks? I didn’t know that!

Where, and for whom prey tell.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:50 am

Shaun – We had this discussion yeasterday, and you never really clarified. I also don’t believe you ever said that JJ was an “acceptable #3, whatever that means.

My point is that if he is a number 4, there must be 90 pitchers better than him. If you are assigning certain qualities to pitching rankings, then please define what a #3 or #4 guy is. There has never been a time in baseball when there were 90 pitchers better than JJ. Any other type of ranking seems arbitrary and subjective…which is out of character for you, since you always exactly quantify everything else, at least in your own mind.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:55 am

How is Jair Jurrjens a #4 starter? He certainly isn’t a #1, but let’s give him a little more credit than that.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:55 am

McFann – I chalk most of it up to wear-and-tear, and fatigue. Catching’s tough, and it’s been a long, hot Summer. He may rejuvinate some with cooler weather, and may get more rest during the stretch, as well.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
9:56 am

Ricky Nolasco has one of the better xFIP in the National League the last few years. I don’t think any talent evaluator or GM would consider him a #1 starter or anything close to it. Just my two cents.

TennesseePaul

September 1st, 2011
9:57 am

I’d like to think Jurrjens would bring what Matt Garza got the Rays, but that’s probably wishful thinking.

Especially considering he’s nothing more than a back end starter.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:57 am

Trade-wise, a lot depends on JJ’s health and performance going forward. That will affect his value, both on the market, and to the Braves.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
9:58 am

First half JJ would be worth a lot.

Mudge

September 1st, 2011
10:00 am

In terms of WAR (pick whatever measure you want) Jurrjens is 70th in the starting pitcher list, meaning he’d be a #3 if the pitchers were evenly distributed. He probably becomes an actual #2 for many teams, since lots of teams have multiple pitchers from the list above Jurrjens on their staff. He’d be #5 on the Giants, for example, #1 for Houston.

Fish Bisch

September 1st, 2011
10:01 am

Lowe>Beachy>Minor>Delgado>Teheran>Jurjjens>Vizcayano>Hanson

I would trade Hansen over Jurjjens.

Gary O

September 1st, 2011
10:01 am

Any chance the “Vanimal” (Vance Worley, 9-1, 2.65 ERA pitching for the Phils) beats out Kimbrel or Freeman for ROY?

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
10:03 am

Fish – Now you’ve done it. Prepare for all hell to bust loose.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
10:04 am

How does Shaun account for teams like the Phillies and Giants who probably have 5 or 6 #1’s pitching between them? Where does that place other MLB pitchers? does that mean that some teams number 1’s are really number 3’s? Hudson is considered a Number 1. If the Braves get Cole Hamels through Free Agency does that make Hudson a number 2, or is he still a number 1? I don’t get it.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
10:04 am

Gary – Only if Kimbrel and Freeman “split the vote”. I think FF and Kimbrel will finish 1&2, with Kimbrell winning.

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
10:05 am

Jurrjens, like Lowe, still has September to improve their numbers. You know, I’d wager Lowe might finish .500 with an ERA in the low fours. A close to typical Lowe season.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
10:06 am

Who truly gives a flying _____ whether Cain or Lowe or Jurrjens or ______ (fill in the blanks) is a 2 or 3 or a 1 or a 2.475 or whatever????

Some of you folks get way to bent out of shape about stuff that doesn’t mean a hill of beans to me.

What matters is getting the W today. Getting the W tomorrow. The day after……. as many times as possible during the season, then in the post season. Calling one guy a 1 or a 2 or a 3 means nothing. Having them ALL perform as a 1, or as close to a 1 every time they are on the mound is everything.

OK, can we move on??

Quick simple definition.

Regression towards the mean (at least the way we use it on the blog) is this: Infante moved back towards his career norms this year, versus playing over his head for a couple of years here. Uggla moving UP towards his career norms after starting off the season horribly.

Would not surprise me that if healthy, McLouth moved back UP towards his numbers in Pittsburg in the next year or so.

Can we move on?

timthebrave

September 1st, 2011
10:06 am

Put jack wilson on the roster and dump lugo and put matt diaz to help out with left handers. Not big moves but the Braves just got a little better. Wren gets it done. He might not be splashy/flashy but he knows where the Braves need help and he improves without giving up the future. Nice win last night. Go braves!

Hugo Z Hackenbush

September 1st, 2011
10:06 am

Worley won’t have enough starts to merit serious consideration.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
10:07 am

Gary O. – No Chance. Great year but numbers aren’t close to Kimbrel and I think it goes to Freeman anyway because full time position players seem to get the writers votes.

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
10:07 am

Yes, Kimbrel followed by Freeman in the R.O.Y. voting.

Fish Bisch

September 1st, 2011
10:08 am

raleigh,
We all now Hanson is weaksauce bro.

timthebrave

September 1st, 2011
10:08 am

Gary O, Vance Worley has been really good for the Phils but I would be shocked if he finished even #2. Unless Kimbrel and Freeman tank the last month I think 1/2 in ROY is a lock

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
10:08 am

JRW – He thinks that #1s have certain qualities that place them in that category. One team can have more than 1 #1, and some have none. There can be more or less than 30 #1s. I completely understand that concept, although the definition of a #1 is totally subjective. What I don’t understand is what the definition of a #4 is, and what makes JJ fit that definition. It’s totally bogus, in my opinion.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
10:09 am

You know, I’ve been coming around here a long time, and I don’t recall a thread more boring than Jurrjens’ virtual rotation slot, LOL. And once you get past “Jurrjens has outperformed his peripherals”, there ain’t a whole lot of fun in that one, either. Moving along…

If the Braves decide to keep a journeyman SS in place next year, I’m not against the idea of Wilson over Gonzalez.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
10:09 am

I like Jack Wilson as a backup middle infielder. I would have rather had Renteria for his clutch bat, but Wilson will have to do, I guess.

DAP

September 1st, 2011
10:09 am

shaun But at least one person thinks Axford is superior in his “mentality” and “approach” to pitchers like Venters, Robertson and Marshall because he’s a closer with 40 saves

really? who? i missed that. you are the only person ive seen bring that up.

Apparently if you think someone like Venters or Robertston or Marshall would be more dominant as closers than John Axford has been as a closer, then you don’t understand the game, you’ve never played it and you don’t understand anything besides stats

youre making that up. you confirmation bias in on full blast, so you are ascribing positions to people who have never expressed such a thing.

Fish Bisch

September 1st, 2011
10:11 am

You think Smoltz would’ve went on the DL for normal wear and tear on his shoulder? lol

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
10:11 am

Kimbrel is setting a saves record for rookies with each save he notches thru the rest of the season. That’s going to receive sports writers’ attention.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
10:11 am

DS1 – Feel better now?

Lew

September 1st, 2011
10:11 am

Jeff R- No real salary relief? Seriously, are we that jaded that we think $7 mil (what he’ll make in arbitration) is nothing?

And as to the conditioning comment – sounded like idle speculation to me rather than an outright declaration. They’ll consider trading him because he’s making some serious bucks and will just keep costing more and they won’t re-sign him to a contract buying out any Free Agent year since they have so much cheap, young pitching in the pipeline.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
10:13 am

scoots

To be honest, I have not kept up with Wilson since he left the Pirates and lost his starting job in Seattle. Does he still have the range to play the position? The stamina to play 150 games per year?

We know Gonzo does, but do we know whether Wilson does or doesn’t? I’d need to know that before I would agree with you.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
10:13 am

You think Smoltz would’ve went on the DL for normal wear and tear on his shoulder?

He did, about six times, LOL.

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
10:14 am

DAP, Shaun would never set up a straw man, would he?

DS1

September 1st, 2011
10:15 am

raleigh

Much better. Was I alone in my thoughts on those 2 subjects???

Fish Bisch

September 1st, 2011
10:16 am

Scoots, smoltz’s shoulder was barely hanging his arm on and he was still pitching for us.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
10:16 am

JeffR- Only if it advanced the case of his ad hominem.

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
10:16 am

Wilson’s bat is lighter than Alex’s. He ain’t starting for the Braves in’12. He’s probably not a Brave next year, anyway.

Shaun

September 1st, 2011
10:17 am

raleighbravefan, if a team has something close to a true #1 and a true #2; I think Jurrjens, in a typical season, is going to be a decent #3 or a solid #4. That’s what I mean. Obviously Jurrjens could be a a #2 or even a #1 on some teams. But I think in an ideal situation, Jurrjens is a #3 or a #4.

I look at “ace” or “#1″ as possessing certain characteristics, #2’s as possessing certain characteristics, and so on. In an ideal situation, would a guy be an ace, a #2, a #3, etc. I’m not counting down to determine which pitchers are the top 30, and determining that those are the aces, and so on, down the rotation spots.

I realize this is all subjective. Basically the whole point is to try to get an idea of a guy’s value and putting a label on it. This is one way to do it.

monty

September 1st, 2011
10:18 am

Good for Lowe last night. He actually missed some bats. Pitched inside on the RHB and his slider looked good. Bodes well for the future. Maybe baby steps now till October. McCann found his swing then lost it again in the 4 day lay-off. Not exactly FG’s best move. Pretty sure he’ll find it again soon.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
10:18 am

Fish – While I agree about Smoltz (and he was unique old-school type), things have changed. Teams have so much $$$ invested in these guys, they guard them carefully, being overly causious.
Also, his results lately were not acceptable, and needed to be addressed. Blame $$$ and Tony LaRussa for the current state of how pitchers are handled.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
10:21 am

monty – You really think it was that fourth day that did Mac in? Dude, he would have been off for three anyway and it’s pretty apparent from the way he’s not following through on his throws (it’s why they’re sailing on him) that the oblique is still bothering him.

He really needed that extra day of rest and in the long run it will be beneficial.

Lpad

September 1st, 2011
10:23 am

“If the Braves decide to keep a journeyman SS in place next year, I’m not against the idea of Wilson over Gonzalez.” – ncscoots

I was considering it when I read about the transaction this morning. However, I just looked up his stats and Gonzalez is actually a better offensive player, which to me at least is amazing. I know Wilson was bad with the bat, but I had no idea there was another career OBP barely above .300 guy (.308) that was an everyday player throughout his career. I knew Wilson was bad at the plate, but at least, Gonzalez walks into one every blue moon. Really, hope that Pastronicky kid is the real deal.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
10:23 am

I’d need to know that before I would agree with you.

The dude was the absolute best defensive SS in the bigs just a couple of years ago, no question. I don’t really keep up with the AL, so I don’t know about his injuries the last couple years. But, if he’s healthy, there would certainly be no dropoff with the glove.

Not exactly a stick you can fall in love with, but we’re talking about comps to Alex, too, remember.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
10:23 am

Shaun – What does it matter what you label the pitchers? Isn’t their performance the important thing? Of course, I do realize that performance means nothing to you – it’s all in how things project according to your pet formulas, isn’t it?

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
10:24 am

Shaun – Re pitchers, I totally understand your methodology. I just disagree with your conclusions…but then, I’m more interested in actual results than “peripherals”.

Murph

September 1st, 2011
10:25 am

Fredi needs to fix his lineup today… no more BMac hitting 3rd! I’ll never understand why some managers monkey around with stuff when it’s working. Put Freeman back in the 3 spot and move Mac to 5th.

1. Bourn
2. Prado
3. Freddie
4. Uggla
5. BMac
6. Chipper
7. Heyward/Diaz/Constanza
8. Gonzo

Freeman’s bat is going to be very important come late September and October. The guy was raking from the 3 spot, so put him back. Fix what wasn’t broken and now broken because you fixed it when it didn’t need fixing. C’mon man!

Shaun

September 1st, 2011
10:26 am

JRW, some teams may have more than one “ace” or “#1.” And I don’t consider Hudson a true “ace” or a “#1.” And I’m not trying to knock Hudson or anything. Just my standards for a legit “ace” or “#1″ are pretty high. It’s more a characteristics, not a ranking. But I could also see labeling pitchers based on rankings, in which case Hudson could very well be an ace by that standard.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
10:27 am

Especially considering he’s nothing more than a back end starter.

Two org. arms and a potential utility infielder for Jair.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
10:27 am

knew Wilson was bad at the plate, but at least, Gonzalez walks into one every blue moon.

Fellas, if the bat comes into play on the decision, neither one of them would be here. :-)

But, in fact, that wasn’t a concern this year and I doubt it would be next year, either. With the addition of Bourn and Chipper’s expected return, it’s going to be a pretty studly lineup 1-7. Nobody is going to care if the SS can hit a lick, as long as he’s lethal with the glove.

Shaun

September 1st, 2011
10:28 am

Lew, you label pitchers to get a simple picture of what they typically look like, performance-wise. It’s a way of simplifying reality into labels.

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
10:28 am

I think the Braves give Pastornicky a shot at the starting SS job in spring training. The kid made a lot of errors, though, this season. Not saying the kid doesn’t have the potential to be a decent fielder, just that he may need more work.

David O'Brien

September 1st, 2011
10:29 am

Braves question to stump your pals: The Braves recently traded for a player who led the NL in triples one season. Who is the player?

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

September 1st, 2011
10:29 am

raleighbravefan

Could be…his swing just looks out of whack…I’m sure he’ll get in back in plenty of time for the playoff, though!…

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
10:30 am

Labeling pitchers “top of the rotation” or “back end” or “middle of the rotation” is an exercise I enjoy. Shaun makes it less enjoyable.

Shaun, by the way, what’s your take on Ricky Nolasco?

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
10:31 am

ncscoots… Chipper’s return is always problematic. And what returns wih Chipper next season is a body that’s one year older.

Shaun

September 1st, 2011
10:32 am

Murph, I don’t understand why he has Prado hitting second.

Bourn
Chipper
Uggla
McCann
Freeman
Heyward
Prado
Gonzalez

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

September 1st, 2011
10:32 am

Lew it’s pretty apparent from the way he’s not following through on his throws (it’s why they’re sailing on him) that the oblique is still bothering him.

Yeah…I hate obliques…

Murph

I posted some of those stats you were asking about last night—they’re on page 3 and obviously don’t take last night’s game into account. You want I should post them again, or do you just wanna go back to page 3 and find them? :P

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
10:33 am

think the Braves give Pastornicky a shot at the starting SS job in spring training

I think there’s zero chance the team goes into ST hoping that the kid can win the job. They just aren’t going to leave that much up to chance and one kid’s development. The kid would have to have a ST all out of mind for expectations to have a shot, and, even then, I think they’d send him down.

Mikeyc588

September 1st, 2011
10:36 am

DOB –

Was that Jack Wilson, the year he was an All-Star and Silver Slugger?

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
10:37 am

Efrim – Shaun makes almost everything less enjoyable, and yet we continue to argue with him. It’s a real puzzlement, but sometimes I just can’t help it. It’s hard to see something outragious without responding. We all need a 12-step program to rid us of this problem.

Lpad

September 1st, 2011
10:38 am

Normally, I would go with the idea that 1-7 is pretty good, but since they are locked in for next year. I think Wren should explore an upgrade at short this winter. It would be really nice to have a SS that gets onbase and plays good D.

Mudge

September 1st, 2011
10:38 am

I was reading the SF Giants blog and they use an amusing term…rosterbation. I see it around here as well.

Murph

September 1st, 2011
10:39 am

Shaun, great idea. Move Uggla out of hitting cleanup because it’s pretty much the only position in the order that he’s had any success hitting in this season. I don’t agree with that but I would like to see what kind of pitches Chipper gets with Uggla behind him. Not enough to further break the batting order, but I’d like to see it.

I do actually agree with hitting Chipper 2nd, though. If his body can handle the extra AB’s, that is.

David O'Brien

September 1st, 2011
10:39 am

Yes, correct answer is Jack Wilson, not Michael Bourn. Surprised me when I saw that today, looking over their stats and seeing the bold-faced 12 on that Wilson triples total in ‘04 (denoting league leader).

Bourn had 12 in ‘09, but didn’t lead the league — Victorino had 13 that year.

Speaking of Phillies … Philly ended August with an 86-46 record. They need win just half of the remaining games to tie the franchise record of 101 wins (1976, 1977).

flange1

September 1st, 2011
10:39 am

I tend to agree with ’scoots on the SS situation.

TP is young and needs at least another 1/2 season at AAA.

The Braves need a good defensive SS that will take a 1 year or 2 year deal.

I think they will look at all that are available, but if they could get Wilson or AGON for 2 year 4 million (total not per year) deal, I think they would jump on it.

Jeff R

September 1st, 2011
10:40 am

ncscoots… I think they’ll give Pastornicky a shot in the spring. Doesn’t mean he gets the job. But the way Pastornicky hit this seaon, I think the brass will take a look at him. As I wrote earlier, though, Pastornicky’s glove needs work. I’d bet he plays at Gwinnett at least a portion of ‘12.

CrαZy

September 1st, 2011
10:41 am

I think the Braves would love for Tyler Pastornicky to remain in AAA until Sept 2012!

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
10:45 am

It would be really nice to have a SS that gets onbase and plays good D.

You get no argument from me, LOL. If you can find one who will play for journeyman money, call Frank. :-)

David O'Brien

September 1st, 2011
10:49 am

JRW: Citizens Bank is a nice ballpark. Other than field being too small (cheap home runs, especially to left), no complaints. Sorry, but I really don’t know about which site lines are best, etc., since I’ve only watched game from pressbox.

Bull’s BBQ beyond right field corner is pretty good ‘que, by ballpark standards.

Hillbilly

September 1st, 2011
10:53 am

On the way to work this morning, TNT by AC/DC came on the radio. I couldn’t help but smile, knowing who’s coming back to Turner Field tonight.

tiger297

September 1st, 2011
10:55 am

Hillbilly – thought DOB said he was coming back for the phillies series…or are you thinking of someone else?

David O'Brien

September 1st, 2011
10:55 am

great band The Duke and The King finally have a new U.S. album that combines songs from their first two including their great import-only “Nothing Gold Can Stay” LP. They’re from Catskills, but got huge in England before stateside.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjY4xfe8Vio

Fish Bisch

September 1st, 2011
10:58 am

Is linebrink still on the team?

Tommy T

September 1st, 2011
10:58 am

scoots:

If he’s healthy, I do think there’s a chance Wilson starts next season at SS. I think the organization would probably like to transition to Pastornicky by mid ‘12. If that’s the plan, Wilson makes more sense as a bench guy.

monty

September 1st, 2011
10:59 am

Lew-”He really needed that extra day of rest and in the long run it will be beneficial”

I would only argue that he should have played Friday and still had 3 days off.. When you get “on a roll” in sports, you hate to have time off…How many times have you heard players, coaches, announcers say at the All-Star break when someone is going well, that “they don’t want the time off”, because it stops the momentum, “the roll” they’re on. I’m sure all players could use rest half way through the season. But It’s like playing golf and you birdie 2 or 3 holes in a row going into the turn, you just want to keep playing, not stop by the clubhouse and grab a sandwich or something(are you hungry and could you use a coke or snack ? Sure, but you realize if you do, chances are you don’t hop back out there and pick up where you left off.) FG opted for the sandwich, I think BRian would have wanted to keep playing. FG opted on the side of caution, I get it. And if Brian gets his swing back soon, no harm,no foul. But if this thing lingers, we could be looking back to that game last Friday and wonder what if.

DiamondbackMac

September 1st, 2011
11:02 am

Lew

I agree with your 10:21. I think the oblique is still bothering him. How have you been and how is your son doing?

Shaun

September 1st, 2011
11:02 am

Murph, people who have studied batting orders find that the number three hitter should be a good homerun guy and you should fill that spot after you’ve fill the more important leadoff, #2 and #4 spots. I think Uggla would be a nice fit there, if you’re going by actual research into ideal batting orders.

I don’t think an extra plate appearance per game is going to increase the chances of Chipper getting hurt. Plus, even if it does, I doubt it’s such a greater risk that it’s not worth the advantages of putting him in the second spot.

Soph

September 1st, 2011
11:03 am

Traffic into downtown should be fun today. Braves, Falcons, & Jackets – nice.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
11:03 am

Tommy, I guess you’re right. It’s not that I’m some big Jack Wilson fan or anything, just noting that Alex isn’t the only all-glove guy out there to be had.

Me, I think I’ll hold out for Lpad’s idea. :-)

MJ

September 1st, 2011
11:03 am

To the guy who wants info for Citizens Bank Park, not a bad seat in the house, amazing sightlines. If you get restless in your seat, check out Ashburn Alley, lots to do, the best food in baseball, and you can still see the game from there. As for cheap HR’s, it’s a bit small down the lines, but not even close to yeilding the most HR’s. I think Yankees Stadium is a joke, a popup to right field is a HR.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
11:05 am

I think Yankees Stadium is a joke, a popup to right field is a HR.

Heck, broken-bat oppo flares go out in that joint.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

September 1st, 2011
11:05 am

monty But if this thing lingers, we could be looking back to that game last Friday and wonder what if.

I’m still looking at July 26th’s game and wondering “what if”…

Lackluster Heyward

September 1st, 2011
11:08 am

Some of my in-laws are in Allentown, Pa. On a visit earlier this summer, went to an Iron Pigs game. They pack fans into that venue like they do at Citizens Bank! The Coca Cola ballpark that the Pigs play in is actually a pretty decent park.

Tommy T

September 1st, 2011
11:08 am

ncscoots:

True. Maybe Wren will find a 40 HR LF’er with plus speed and defense who’ll play for the min!!! As long as we’re hoping, we might as well go all the way!!!! (I would put a smiley face emoticon there, but I haven’t invested the mental currency in learning how to do that crap yet.)

Mudge

September 1st, 2011
11:09 am

The Phillies pitchers have given up 43 HRs at CBP and 48 away (they have played 4 more at home). Those numbers don’t indicate a home run friendly ball park. The Yankees pitchers have given up 68 at home and 49 on the road. Big difference. Braves pitchers have given up 44 at home and 57 away, indicating that Turner field is below average in allowing HRs.

Hillbilly

September 1st, 2011
11:10 am

Tiger, I reckon I missed that, but I see it now. I was going off the Minor League Report over at Talking Chop:

Peter Moylan started the suspended game, pitching on consecutive days for the first time in his rehab, and he pitched a scoreless inning. Atlanta will activate him off the disabled list tomorrow.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:10 am

No Shaun – II want to know what a pitcher looks like, I’ll find a photo and do his portrait. And why would you ever want to simplify reality into a label?

Never mind – I probably don’t want to know and certainly don’t want you preaching to me.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:10 am

So who do Braves fans root for in September. Arizona? Longer flights = harder time with jet lag etc. for trips back and forth, plus the fact that they are actually playing better overall than the Brewers. Or the aforementioned Brewers who are really good at home but much worse on the road. and much closer to travel to with no real time zone problems.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
11:16 am

As long as we’re hoping, we might as well go all the way!!!!

You know, my only real hope for the offseason is that the sticks be ready to play in April. Considering that Heyward, Prado, Uggla, and even Chipper were off their feed for so much of the year, well, the offense has actually not been bad. Turn all those guys around to their norms, and the basic lineup starts looking pretty fearsome.

That’s my baseball Christmas wish this year, anyway. Whatever they do with the pitching in teh offseason, I think I’ll still feel pretty good about that end come March.

Random

September 1st, 2011
11:16 am

Rob from SC (August 31st, 2011 5:40 pm): “DOB

“There is no way Hoover will be part of the New Deal right?”

Right.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:17 am

DBack – We weathered the storm well. My son? Not so good. They found out the toe they removed was not just an infection, but osteosarcoma – bone cancer. They think removing it got all the cancer, but will do a full body MRI in three weeks.

Wondered why they kept doing chest xrays – now we know – it’s a logicl progression for osteosarcoma. Thankfully, the chest xrays were negative.

DAP

September 1st, 2011
11:17 am

jeff r Wilson’s bat is lighter than Alex’s. He ain’t starting for the Braves in’12. He’s probably not a Brave next year, anyway.

depends on what youre looking for. gets on base better, and hits for a higher average. no power at all, though.

i wouldnt take him over alex. go with the devil you know.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:17 am

Excuse me – Three months, not weeks.

Random

September 1st, 2011
11:18 am

New Deal was FDR.

RC

September 1st, 2011
11:19 am

JRW,

I went to Citizen’s Bank Park for the first time earlier this year. It’s really similar to Turner Field as far as the seat setup, with the exception of a bigger upper deck area in the outfield, and a more “open” feel to seats at the top of the bottom bowl (the upper deck doesn’t extend as far over the lower level as it does at Turner Field). The sight lines of most of the seats seemed really good….we ended up sitting behind home plate in the middle level (similar to the Lexus/Golden Moon Casino Level at Turner). It was a LITTLE difficult to see the entire foul territory in left field if I remember correctly, but overall we were able to see pretty much everything.

Soph

September 1st, 2011
11:21 am

Aw man, Lew – sorry to hear that. Best wishes to him, hopefully, they got all of it.

RC

September 1st, 2011
11:22 am

Wilson’s biggest asset to this team is so that if we get decimated by injuries like we did last year, Brooks Conrad doesn’t have to pick up a glove. He’s on the team so if Alex comes up gimpy on the last day of the season, we aren’t screwed by having Julio Lugo starting a playoff game. He’s simply a good insurance policy.

cricket

September 1st, 2011
11:22 am

David O’Brien
N8, I really like Target,

Aha..so under all that leather and BBQ sauce, DOB’s a yuppie…

Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:22 am

Thanks Soph. It’s been tough on him. Got lots of support from family and friends, though and the medical end of things has been little short of amazing – both the hospital and all his doctors..

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:25 am

Thanks everyone for the input on CBP. Very much appreciated.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:26 am

Lew, Thoughts and prayers to you and your family.

DC Brave

September 1st, 2011
11:28 am

the Phillies are about to put an the Braves old question…this has been a great regular season run for them….but how will that translate in the post season?

Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:28 am

JRW- Thanks – It’s a lot harder to deal with when it’s your kids (even if he’s not really a kid anymore). Rather it were happening to me instead of him.

Geno

September 1st, 2011
11:31 am

When do postseason tickets usually go on sale? Around last week of September? I’m from Austin, TX and plan to head up to Atlanta for my first time.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:31 am

Hope to see good pitching in Philly next week. I just don’t think the Braves starters are real close to the Phillies starters right now. Although the way it lines up now it looks like the Braves will miss Halladay and Hamels. Looks like it will be Lee, Worley, Oswalt.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:32 am

I know exactly where your coming from Lew. Good Luck to you.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
11:35 am

I’m from Austin, TX and plan to head up to Atlanta for my first time.

Bring Murph. :-)

DiamondbackMac

September 1st, 2011
11:35 am

Lew

Had a little accident this morning. Slight confrontation between my right ring finger and a hydraulic log splitter. Needless to say, the log splitter won.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:35 am

Lowe vs Lee on Monday then Hudson vs. Worley and finally Beachy vs. Oswalt if nothing changes with the call ups.

Hugo Z Hackenbush

September 1st, 2011
11:36 am

Headline of the day award goes to Talking Chop for “Little Ditty About Jack and Diaz…”

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
11:36 am

I just don’t think the Braves starters are real close to the Phillies starters right now.

Man, don’t you ever get tired of that “We’re not worthy!” thing, LOL?

Gary O

September 1st, 2011
11:37 am

JRW,

I think it goes to Freeman anyway because full time position players seem to get the writers votes..

True, but Neftali won it last year when he had 40 saves. And although Freeman is having a “good” year, Kimbrel is having a “record” year.

richbrave

September 1st, 2011
11:39 am

BRAVES win 96. Phillies best them in the win column by at least 10. Been saying that since mid-July.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
11:40 am

I’m predicting we get 3 runs off Lee on Monday.

Diamondback

Those log splitters can be a formidable foe, huh?

Wilson vs Gonzo

I realize that Wilson has been a great glove man in his career. But, as good as Gonzo has been defensively and what his defense means to this staff, if he will re-sign, why would you want to go a different direction?

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Soph

September 1st, 2011
11:40 am

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Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:40 am

Dback- Ouch!!!

Murph

September 1st, 2011
11:41 am

Shaun, what do your stats tell you about Uggla’s performance hitting cleanup vs in other spots in the order? I might be wrong, but I believe he is raking while hitting 4th and doing little while hitting elsewhere in the lineup.

Perhaps, despite the stats, he feels more comfortable there. I’m guessing nobody has told him that he shouldn’t feel comfortable there, because his projections indicate he’d be a better #3 hitter… so don’t you go telling him that and getting into his head.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
11:42 am

richbrave

Just so long as we have more W’s than the Phillies in October, the rest of the season doesn’t matter.

:wink:

CB

September 1st, 2011
11:42 am

Playoffs are short series in which either team,Ala hot hand,can win. Those wanting to give up before they start please switch to football.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:43 am

Scoots, Nothing to do with being “Worthy” just seeing all of the goose eggs and strikeouts to walks from that staff lately. And the fact that the Braves starters seems to be leaking a little oil lately (compared to pre All-Star break). Just timing. maybe it will even out more by next week.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
11:44 am

Murph

SSSSSHHHHHHH!!!

Don’t get him going. Even if it’s a joke, he’ll never notice.

DiamondbackMac

September 1st, 2011
11:44 am

Mudge

September 1st, 2011
11:45 am

Lee shut out Cincinnati, the second highest run scoring club in the NL, yesterday. Has a 6 game winning streak with a 0.45 ERA in August. I guess it’s sensible to predict 3 runs against him Monday.

DiamondbackMac

September 1st, 2011
11:46 am

The log splitter sustained no damage at all.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:46 am

Dback – It didn’t show up.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
11:46 am

CB

Too many times in recent history (past 15 years), the team that is hot going into the post season usually comes out with a World Serious ring!

[...] saw this solid article from David O’Brien about Diaz.  In which he said this…The Braves will send the Pirates a player to be named later, likely from [...]

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:46 am

DS1 – I’m predicting we get 3 runs off Lee on Monday.

**************************************************************

That would be real good considering he’s only given up 2 runs in the whole mont of August.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
11:47 am

JRW, just saying that my perception is that you start out every morning with some post about the greatness of the Phightens and the lesser-ness of the Braves. Every…day. :-)

(Certainly, I could be wrong about the frequency. Might just be my bias showing, LOL.)

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
11:48 am

I think T-Pain plays the majority of next year in Gwinnett. He still could use some seasoning and I find it hard to believe that the Braves would play opening day with three 22 year olds in the starting lineup.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
11:48 am

Mudge

My prediction is based on the fact that we have always hit him OK, plus I am an unapologetic homer…….

:lol:

DiamondbackMac

September 1st, 2011
11:48 am

Lew

Try again, I reset the privacy setting.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:49 am

Mudge Cincinnati was the NL leader in runs until the Phillies showed up three games ago.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
11:50 am

Braves may have to trade Jair or Lowe and non tender Moylan to get their payroll in a comfortable place.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:50 am

DBack – Nasty. Don’t you hate when that happens?

Ease

September 1st, 2011
11:51 am

Its just a flesh wound.

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
11:51 am

Just got back from an errand, and now I see Shaun is trying to start up the old optimal batting order argument. (roll of eyes).

DS1

September 1st, 2011
11:51 am

JRW and Mudge

Sounds like Lee is due for an ole fashion arse whuppin’ to me ……..

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
11:51 am

I think T-Pain plays the majority of next year in Gwinnett.

I thought he was “The Rev”. I gotta get some nickname low-down here.

N8

September 1st, 2011
11:51 am

” love it in the Hotel California intro (on the video) when the crowd finally realizes what song they are playing……..” DS1

Wayne, I agree. Gives me chills everytime. Still like that CD, though I find myself skipping some of it. Some of the Glen Frey slow country ballad type stuff puts me to sleep.

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:52 am

Scoots. I probably (surely) keep a closer eye on what they do night to night because it looks more and more like the Phillies and Braves are on a NLCS collision course.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
11:53 am

I like “The Rev”……..

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
11:53 am

Minor league season ends on Monday. Worst day ever…..

JRW

September 1st, 2011
11:53 am

DS1, Anyone can be beat on any given day.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:53 am

Natahn – I saw Don Henley some years back and they did a lot of the old Eagles’ tunes. Had Mike Campbell from Tom Petty’s Heartbreakers on guitar and Bruce Hornsby on keyboards. Great show.

Efrim

September 1st, 2011
11:53 am

I’m using T-Pain. I don’t care what any of you say, dammit.

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
11:53 am

Sounds like Lee is due for an ole fashion arse whuppin’ to me ……..

Zackly. It ain’t August anymore, boys. Growed-man time. And the Braves aren’t the Reds.

DiamondbackMac

September 1st, 2011
11:53 am

Lew

Yes I do, especially since I had an almost identical accident several years ago involving my right index finger and a break press. But, I’m blessed that i still have both fingers.

Soph

September 1st, 2011
11:55 am

Squirrel’s in first! Go ahead, CB.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:55 am

DBack – Maybe a moratorium on heavy machinery would be in your best interests?

Fish Bisch

September 1st, 2011
11:55 am

what’s for lunch everybody? I’m thinking Zaxbys.

Soph

September 1st, 2011
11:56 am

DS1

September 1st, 2011
11:56 am

N8

Yeah, that “Girl from Yesterday” and a couple of others are definite “skips” for me.

And I flat out love watching Felder and Walsh playing……..

I would have been a professional picker, if I’d had a little bit more talent……..

:wink:

N8

September 1st, 2011
11:56 am

In case anybody missed my late night question I’ll ask it again. Not trying to be annoying, just looking to help my son out.

If anybody knows of a place in the Atlanta area where I can order a poster that has Kimbrel and Venters together (or with O’Flaherty on it if they’re marketing it that way), or even one of Kimbrel or Venters alone, shoot me a link or a way of getting ahold of the store,

I can’t find anything online. Just sites that have multiple old posters like Justice, Gant, Glaving, Chipper, etc….

Thanks if anybody can help.

TennesseePaul

September 1st, 2011
11:56 am

I thought he was “The Rev”. I gotta get some nickname low-down here.

I thought it was “Preach”

Certain if Cox were here he’d just be “Nicky” which would rival Kimbrel for the most effeminate nickname on the team.

DiamondbackMac

September 1st, 2011
11:56 am

Ease

Its just a flesh wound.

And Marie Antoinette just had a sore throat.

Fish Bisch

September 1st, 2011
11:57 am

mmmm pbj. with bacon?

ncscoots

September 1st, 2011
11:57 am

Certain if Cox were here he’d just be “Nicky” which would rival Kimbrel for the most effeminate nickname on the team.

Nossir. No “Nicky”. Can’t have it. Won’t do.

TennesseePaul

September 1st, 2011
11:58 am

what’s for lunch everybody? I’m thinking Zaxbys.

Zaxby’s owns us. :(

raleighbravefan

September 1st, 2011
11:58 am

Lew – Sorry to hear about your son..prayers will continue. I guess the silver lining is that if they saved the toe, the diagnosis would have been delayed.

Lew

September 1st, 2011
11:58 am

Nathan – I’m working on a drawing of the three of them. Figured there would be a minor amount of demand for one.

Tommy T

September 1st, 2011
11:58 am

“I’m using T-Pain. I don’t care what any of you say, dammit.” – Efrim

Sometimes you just have to take a stand, Ef.

DS1

September 1st, 2011
11:58 am

Zackly. It ain’t August anymore, boys. Growed-man time. And the Braves aren’t the Reds.

THAT’S what I’M talkin bout!!!

Later friends…………

DiamondbackMac

September 1st, 2011
11:58 am

Lew

That might be a good idea.