Look who’s back? It’s Braves vs. (G)Nats

(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)

Well, well, well. We have baseball again today! What a weird stretch, three days away for the Braves because of Hurricane Irene – their own little All-Star break take two, to break up the dog days. So looking back, now, can it be a good thing? (For the players, I mean. I know you natives are restless!)

Extra rest for the Braves rotation over a four-day (and real) All-Star break seemed to mess the Braves rotation up

Jurrjens returns to mound tonight

Jurrjens returns to mound tonight

for a few weeks afterward, with the exception of Tim Hudson. But now it’s only an extra day or two of rest for Jair Jurrjens, Derek Lowe and Hudson. Brandon Beachy (seven days rest) and Mike Minor (10 days rest) will have some challenges with rust this weekend vs. the Dodgers, but the Braves are going to try to get them some work in, maybe a simulated game.

This was also a chance to recharge and rest up for guys who’ve been battling some injuries of late like Chipper Jones (knee, quad), Brian McCann (oblique), and Jose Constanza (ankle).

On the other hand, now, the Braves begin a stretch of playing 17 games in the next 16 days including the makeup doubleheader against the Mets in New York on Sept. 8. Starting Thursday, though, the Braves can add reinforcements from the minors, and what a perfect time to have a bonus starter to go in one of those games of the doubleheader.

My guess is Julio Teheran would go against the Mets – just a guess. Fredi Gonzalez has already said both Teheran and Randall Delgado will be among the September call-ups, but he’ll have to decide when he brings them up. With Gwinnett making a playoff run, he might decide to leave one down there until the season plays out.

Delgado made the last spot start on Aug. 16 vs. the Giants, and he goes a day before Teheran in the rotation in Gwinnett, which would puts Teheran’s spot one day closer to Sept. 8 (he’d normally fall on Sept. 6). And I’m thinking it’s Teheran’s turn. (Hey, I can have my one-of-five-kids logic, if I want to!)

Your IL rookie of year, MV pitcher

Your IL rookie of year, MV pitcher

Teheran is completing quite the minor league season. This morning he was announced as the International League rookie of the year, as well as International League most valuable pitcher of the year. Not too shabby. Teheran is leading the International League in wins (15), ERA (2.22) and opponents’ batting average (.227). He’s the second consecutive Gwinnett Brave to win IL rookie of the year after Freddie Freeman did it last year. You couldn’t ask much more from him this season.

Also, right fielder Stefan Gartrell was also named to the IL postseason All-Star team. He’s hitting .265 with 26 homers and 91 RBIs in 116 games on the season and won the Triple-A home run derby.

Eye on Sept. Schedule

The Braves have 29 games left. Only nine of them are against teams with winning records – six games against the Phillies (three at home, three on the road) and three games in St. Louis. Even with next week’s doubleheader in New York, the Braves have two more off days to work with on Sept. 15 and Sept. 22.

The Phillies have 32 games left, and 17 of them are against teams with records of .500 or better. (They’re at Cincinnati right now, which is 67-67.) They are playing four games at red-hot Milwaukee Sept. 8-11 and play the Cardinals for a four-game set at home on Sept. 16-19.

On top of that, the Phillies have no more scheduled off days before the end of the season. They have to make up two games against the Marlins they missed over the weekend because of Hurricane Irene in a doubleheader on Sept. 15. Then they have a doubleheader on Sept. 20 against the Nationals, including a make-up game for a rain-out on Aug. 14.

Not that the Phillies have flinched at much of anything this season, but if you’re looking at their schedule compared to the Braves’, theirs in tougher. And who knows, the Braves are down 6 ½ games in the NL East with six games left against the Phillies. Maybe it gets interesting.

Nats or gnats?

Oh, the pesky Nationals are here, and just when you mention teams with sub .500 records in the Braves schedule, that doesn’t really seems to matter when it comes to this team does it? The Braves are 6-6 against the Nationals this season, after going 8-10 against them a year ago, 10-8 in 2009 and 6-12 in 2008.

I’m not sure how many times I’ve written….”The Braves face Livan Hernandez tonight” ….but this will be the fourth time he’s faced the Braves this season. He’s 1-2 in those four starts despite a 3.31 ERA. The only time the Braves really rocked him was in an 11-1 win on July 15 at Turner Field, the first game out of the All-Star break. He gave up six runs (three earned) in four innings.

It's Livan Herandez vs. Braves again

It's Livan Herandez vs. Braves again

Jurrjens is pitching tonight on seven days’ rest. He was scheduled to go Saturday in New York and got pushed back. The last time he pitched with such a long lay-off – 10 days between starts, with 1 2/3 innings in the All-Star game mixed in – he had a miserable night against the Nationals. He gave up six runs in five innings that night, July 17, and has given up 11 runs in 10 innings total in his two starts against the Nats since the break. But after the second of those, he conceded his surgically-repaired knee was bothering him and he went on the disabled list.

Jurrjens pitched well in his last outing vs. the Cubs, working around eight hits for 6 1/3 shutout innings and would love to build on that in his third start since coming off the DL.

Salcedo, Lipka

In the process of working on the minor league story I wrote yesterday, I had a chance to ask farm director Kurt Kemp about the progress of two young shortstop prospects Edward Salcedo and Matt Lipka down in Rome. The numbers aren’t super friendly for either one, but he gave me some insights.

At first they rotated Lipka, Salcedo and Elmer Reyes at shortstop, second and third base, but they ended up settling in with Lipka at shortstop and Salcedo at third. Kemp said the Braves aren’t locked into leaving Salcedo at third, but that this is just how it played out this season.

First the numbers:

Salcedo is hitting .253 with 27 doubles, six triples, 12 homers, and 66 RBIs, a significant improvement over last year in Rome, when he hit .197 (38 for 193) with five doubles, four triples, two homers and 16 RBIs in 54 games in his first action in the U.S. since coming over from the Dominican. But in making the transition to third base this year, he has committed an eye-popping 46 errors in 127 games.

Kemp on Salcedo: “He’s had good production for his first full season. We’ve asked him to change positions. He has the skills (to play third); it’s learning how to do it. He’s a very talented offensive player; he has a lot of physical talent as a hitter. It’s our job to harness that, to command a better strike zone, get consistency.”

Lipka is hitting .238 with 17 doubles, three triples, one homer and 35 RBIs, and 26 stolen bases in 39 attempts. He has committed only 13 errors in 121 games, predominantly at short.

Kemp on Lipka: “He’s learned what he needs to do; it’s transferring what he knows he needs to do to games. When he takes bp and stays where he needs to be, he lines that ball. I’ve told him ‘You have to be patient, things don’t just overnight just happen.’ …I know it’s not the offensive year he had hoped for, but it’s been a valuable year for him.”

Hanson update to come

We’ll find out more today about Tommy Hanson following his visit with Dr. James Andrews yesterday. Indications I’ve gotten are that the news is good with his shoulder, so maybe the Braves really don’t have to rule him out going forward and he can indeed return from a small “undersurface” tear in his rotator cuff in a few weeks, like the Braves have hoped. But I will have more information on that and update you from the park.

Braves lineup

1. Bourn CF

2. Prado LF

3. McCann C

4. Uggla 2B

5. Jones 3B

6. Freeman 1B

7. Gonzalez SS

8. Heyward RF

9. Jurrjens P

1,671 comments Add your comment

Fish Bisch

August 30th, 2011
2:22 pm

O'flarity's water bottle

August 30th, 2011
2:22 pm

THATS FROM MY POAST, THATS AWESOME!

Fish Bisch

August 30th, 2011
2:23 pm

The Nats own us :( and so will Liven Hernandez :cry:

cricket

August 30th, 2011
2:24 pm

BFChris26

August 30th, 2011
2:25 pm

Thanks for new blog Carroll 8-)

O'flarity's water bottle

August 30th, 2011
2:27 pm

O’flarity’s water bottle

August 30th, 2011
12:23 pm
Yes we need to kill the (G)NATS!

TennesseePaul

August 30th, 2011
2:27 pm

Thanks for the work CR.

GO BRAVES!!

Murph

August 30th, 2011
2:27 pm

Continuing a convo from the last blog:

I do think Uggla’s first-half performance may have been partly due to some age-related decline

This does not compute. Uggla has gotten older as the season progressed, not younger. Yet, the older he grows this season, the better he seems to play. How can this be?

Was his normally slow start magnified due to age? If so then I’d expect him to play at a level more in keeping with his average, only lower due to being older. Yet somehow he’s not only playing at a typical Uggla power level… he’s exceeded it.

See nolie and Lew and the rest of you old guys on here. There is hope. Just because you’re old and beat up and it takes you 20 minutes to pee in the morning doesn’t mean that you’ve got one foot in the grave. Nope. It means that your best days might still be ahead of you.

O'flarity's water bottle

August 30th, 2011
2:28 pm

IM FAMOUS, FOR FIFTEEN SECONDS, YOU MADE MY DAY AJC!!!!!

Biff Pocaroba

August 30th, 2011
2:37 pm

why are we starting heyward?????
somebody please remind fredi Georgie is still with the ball club

Jimmy

August 30th, 2011
2:39 pm

Cab – Thanks for sharing those pitures. I brought them over from the old blog.

http://buckhead.patch.com/articles/braves-at-bat-for-charity-in-buckhead#photo-7560900

And thanks Fish! Should work out for us against Liven. :-)

Heisenberg

August 30th, 2011
2:40 pm

Interesting Heyward over Constanza. Anything to read into that regarding the ankle? Or just rotating guys in and to keep them fresh and get ABs?

TennesseePaul

August 30th, 2011
2:40 pm

Last 9 starts of the starting 9

_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS
Bourn__ .308 .308 .410 0.718
Prado__ .229 .308 .371 0.679
McCann_ .188 .297 .500 0.797
Uggla__ .241 .371 .552 0.923
Chipper .344 .400 .656 1.056
Freeman .226 .265 .419 0.684
Seabass .133 .188 .333 0.521
Heyward .188 .206 .313 0.518
Jurrjen .118 .118 .118 0.235

fredo

August 30th, 2011
2:41 pm

Even with Salcedo and Lipka having sub-par season, the talent in the minors is still AWESOME! I just hope we keep it going for years (like Minnesota and Tampa have – although we have the funds to add key players via trade/FA).

Will losing Roy Clark to the Gnats hurt long term? I’m not sure…

sheeesh

August 30th, 2011
2:42 pm

The Curious Case of Dan Uggla

Heisenberg

August 30th, 2011
2:44 pm

fredo, Should be able to keep the minors stocked with talent by trading arbitration elgible pitchers in forthcoming offseasons before they hit free agency for boatloads of prospects.

cabravesfan

August 30th, 2011
2:46 pm

Jimmy-

Thanks! I was going to cut and paste, but you beat me too it :D I just want to make sure a certain someone sees them- I have a feeling she will enjoy a few… ;)

ncscoots

August 30th, 2011
2:46 pm

Chipper’s numbers in the middle of that lineup make it look so symmetrical. :-)

JRW

August 30th, 2011
2:48 pm

CR commented on the Phillies tough schedule. They went into Cincinnati last night and proceeded to beat a team that was 8-1 over their previous 9. The Phillies don’t let winning and/or streaking teams stand in their way too much.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 30th, 2011
2:48 pm

cabravesfan I just want to make sure a certain someone sees them- I have a feeling she will enjoy a few…

Gee…now who on earth could that be…? ;)

Thanks for that link! :D Caught it on the old Blog…great photos!! The apron is so dang cute:D

CrαZy

August 30th, 2011
2:50 pm

why are we starting heyward

IMO we have a better chance to win a WS with someone that resembles Jason Heyward 2010. Why not give him a chance to play maybe he can get the stick going and play better down the stretch!

David O'Brien

August 30th, 2011
2:51 pm

Baseball song I’m certain you’ve never heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFB4S-OLlnE

CrαZy

August 30th, 2011
2:53 pm

Good lord McCann was a waiter?!?!?! I’m sure some people got some sweaty food! (For those who watched the Braves Bash you’ll know what I’m talking about)

Bryn

August 30th, 2011
2:55 pm

Was there some talk after the draft that Simmons could be moved to center field?

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
2:55 pm

CrαZy, plus the right-handed version (so far this season) is hitting second in the lineup, so why not start him?

cabravesfan

August 30th, 2011
2:56 pm

Good lord McCann was a waiter?!?!?! I’m sure some people got some sweaty food!

Trying not to make inappropriate comments…

noliee

August 30th, 2011
2:57 pm

wow Hugo there are so many flaws in those last coupla posts on the other blog that I don’t have the patience to discuss them all :roll:

Jimmy

August 30th, 2011
2:59 pm

Now back to Braves Baseball!

In Cincy, it’s Halladay vs. Arroyo. Maybe the Reds can steal one – even if Leake isn’t starting.

Let’s work Hernandez deep into the count. Get to the pen.
I didn’t realize the Nats took 3 out of 2 against the Reds and the Phils before starting six game losing streak. Let’s keep them beat down.

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:00 pm

Obviously the .297 OBP McCann has posted over the “last 9″ means a lot today and going forward. Such useful information. What’s the point?

Heisenberg

August 30th, 2011
3:03 pm

Jimmy, the Nats took 3 out of 2? Nice trick.

TennesseePaul

August 30th, 2011
3:06 pm

plus the right-handed version (so far this season) is hitting second in the lineup, so why not start him?

correction the [slightly better and more versatile] right-handed version (so far this season) is hitting second in the lineup

Lemke's Knuckler

August 30th, 2011
3:06 pm

Fangraph has some good data on Tommy Hanson with regard to his release point. In 2009, he had a predominantly 3/4 release point. In 2010, his scatter plots were all over the place with a gradual transition from 3/4 to over the top. This year, the plots show that he has been consistently throwing over the top. Not sure if this is something McDowell worked on with Tommy, because you can’t deny he’s been a more dominant pitcher with his release point over the top. But my gut instinct is that you take a kid that’s thrown 3/4 most of his pitching life and switch him to over the top, and I’m not surprised that he’s having shoulder issues. Now that this has happened, I’m curious to see if Tommy goes back to a 3/4 delivery again.

And by 3/4 delivery, I’m not talking Randy Johnson here. Tommy’s delivery is really between a 3/4 and over the top, but I generalized for simplicity.

Jimmy

August 30th, 2011
3:06 pm

Heisenberg – Good catch. I was talking on the phone and typing.

Ok….two out of three. I wish we could take 3 out of 2. :-)

timthebrave

August 30th, 2011
3:06 pm

I think FG will start Heyward vs the righties today and thurs and start Constanza against the lefty tomorrow. If that’s what he does I like the way he is thinking

DAP

August 30th, 2011
3:07 pm

shaun Obviously the .297 OBP McCann has posted over the “last 9″ means a lot today and going forward. Such useful information. What’s the point?

despite your presence, some of us still like to have fun with stats. fun. thats the point. did anyone say it was useful info going forward? did anyone ascribe any value to it at all, or was it just posted on its own? what is your problem?

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:08 pm

Murph, because aging patterns are not a perfect gradual slope. There are some ups and downs over small samples within the gradual downward slope. I guess the test will come next season when we see whether he has something close to a career year. He’s gotten older of course but he’s not that far from what was probably his peak. We’ll see if over the long haul he can keep up this run.

timthebrave

August 30th, 2011
3:09 pm

TennesseePaul , Don’t listen to him… Keep posting your last 9 of the starting 9. I like it even if I don’t use it for anything

CrαZy

August 30th, 2011
3:10 pm

Obviously the .297 OBP McCann has posted over the “last 9″ means a lot today and going forward. Such useful information. What’s the point?

Can you possibly be a bigger αss!!

unbelievable

August 30th, 2011
3:10 pm

“somebody please remind fredi Georgie is still with the ball club – biff”

Yeah they reminded him. They also reminded Fredi that Georgie is 5 for his last 27 with 0RBI also.

noliee

August 30th, 2011
3:10 pm

This is BASEBALL!! This is serious stuff. Ain’t no place for steeenking fun.
Get your priorities in order DAP!

TennesseePaul

August 30th, 2011
3:11 pm

It sucks. Heyward’s at the end of a lost season and showing little signs of getting better. He’s gotta month though. Just need him to wake up in time for the post season.

Heisenberg

August 30th, 2011
3:11 pm

Indeed Jimmy that is about the only way to catch the Philies.

Ted William's Frozen Head

August 30th, 2011
3:11 pm

Thanks for the stats, TennesseePaul. It is greatly appreciated.

fredo

August 30th, 2011
3:11 pm

… “with a strike zone….. as big as your mind”

phil

August 30th, 2011
3:11 pm

McCann should be benched and benched now in favor of Ross….

Bench Wayward too for Constanza, whose BABIP clearly shows his superiority over Wayward…

Fire someone….

raleighbravefan

August 30th, 2011
3:12 pm

Jimmy – How does a team win 3 out of 2? We need to do that!

reckingball

August 30th, 2011
3:12 pm

Uggla has not peaked.

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:12 pm

DAP, whatever floats your boat. I’m not sure I see the fun it that.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 30th, 2011
3:13 pm

I’m always int’rested in what players have done over the last pick-a-number-of games as well…

phil

August 30th, 2011
3:13 pm

timthebrave

August 30th, 2011
3:09 pm
TennesseePaul , Don’t listen to him… Keep posting your last 9 of the starting 9. I like it even if I don’t use it for anything
****************
Love it myself….best stats we see here for me.

Jimmy

August 30th, 2011
3:14 pm

DAP – That didn’t sound like Shaun. It was only three sentences long, included sarcasim, only referenced one stat and ended with “What’s the point?”.

Don’t sound like him.

CrαZy

August 30th, 2011
3:15 pm

Hey dipsh!t I don’t think Tenn was trying to prove any theorys or make any judgement he was just pointing out the recent stats!! Geez!!

TennesseePaul

August 30th, 2011
3:16 pm

What’s the point?

Payne, the point is, that is what the players have done over their last 9 starts. I thought the lead-in sentence was clear enough. Apparently I need to dumb it down for you.

raleighbravefan

August 30th, 2011
3:16 pm

Shaun never fails to surprise with his level of arrogance and condescention.

noliee

August 30th, 2011
3:17 pm

TOO SMALL a sample SIZE to be RELEVANT. Post important meaningful stuff ONLY.

timthebrave

August 30th, 2011
3:17 pm

Shaun, Your posts are insulting, repetitive and being said by other columnists at espn, etc. Where is the fun in that?

CrαZy

August 30th, 2011
3:18 pm

Jimmy you’re right…. normally Shaun’s a little bit more subtle with the arrogance. Maybe his parents finally kicked him out of the basement?

raleighbravefan

August 30th, 2011
3:18 pm

Shaun – I don’t think you would recognize “fun” if it ran over you.

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:19 pm

TennesseePaul, if Heyward’s having a lost season, how do you describe Prado’s season? I think that’s overstating it a bit. Lost season? Really?

phil, yes, BABIP is sole, perfect indicator of performance, right? Geez, is it really that complicated as to why and how BABIP is useful?

GiveHeywardAChance!

August 30th, 2011
3:19 pm

For those of you that are wondering, Constanza is only 5 for his last 27 (.185), so i don’t see why Jason wouldn’t get a shot out there. He’s our best chance to advance in the playoffs. We need his power and aggressiveness. Constanza will be a great bench player as we go forward, and if we make the world series (knock on wood) he will be great to fill in the lineup due to the DH. Let’s go Braves!!

DAP

August 30th, 2011
3:19 pm

shaun I’m not sure I see the fun it that.

its not about you, so shut up about it.

i mean, gee whiz. what harm did it do to you to see some simple stats over the last 9 starts? did that hurt you in some way? did it offend you? DOB does stuff like that all the time. does that bother you to?

noliee

August 30th, 2011
3:21 pm

Fun? BAH HUMBUG!!!

phil

August 30th, 2011
3:21 pm

Jimmy – You meant to say “doesn’t” sound like him, not don’t.

Love, shaun

Rodney Derrick

August 30th, 2011
3:22 pm

Richbrave and Carroll– Thanks for feedback on whether I should walk the one block to the Bulls and Braves game tonight to watch Moylan and others. If Julio were pitching, there would be no question at all. While I do not require extra fresh air after my daily run, I may go as I have seen more than enough of Livan over the years. If I do, I will write up an eye witness report, but I am expecting a phone call during that time and that is another factor, as I am not a cell phone guy.

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:22 pm

noliee, just odd to post something that has no meaning whatsoever.

ncscoots

August 30th, 2011
3:22 pm

Post important meaningful stuff ONLY.

I don’t think the AJC will like the loss of all those page hits, if we abide by that.

raleighbravefan

August 30th, 2011
3:23 pm

We must be doing pretty well, if the biggest issue for the last 2 weeks+ has been Constanza vs Heyward…That, and the ongoing arrogance of Shaun, of course.

cricket

August 30th, 2011
3:23 pm

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:23 pm

DAP, doesn’t bother me. I just don’t see the point. Doesn’t really tell anybody much of anything.

Jimmy

August 30th, 2011
3:24 pm

Man Shaun, you really do have a crappy attitude today. I mean, you are always repetitive and arrogant, but today you are just plain mean.

May I suggest you try a good stool softener? Not one that makes you go, but one that makes it easier to go.

timthebrave

August 30th, 2011
3:24 pm

Shaun, just odd to post something that has no meaning whatsoever.

So you will not be posting from now on?

ncscoots

August 30th, 2011
3:24 pm

noliee, just odd to post something that has no meaning whatsoever.

Wow.

phil

August 30th, 2011
3:26 pm

Shaun – My post was clearly meant to be moronic and stupid, not serious….note how I always say “Fire FG” or fire someone every day just because…..i do it so much that even I think it’s stupid now….but I still do it because I guess I can count on you to think I actually mean it….and because it belittles the ones that post that crap and actually mean it.

As for Wayward’s lost season, the fact that you don’t see it or don’t agree speaks volumes…

judy

August 30th, 2011
3:26 pm

lets go J-Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets show everyone what you can do!

raleighbravefan

August 30th, 2011
3:26 pm

Shaun says “the only stats that have meaning are the ones I quote”.

Buggs Bunny says “what a MAROON”.

Tommy T

August 30th, 2011
3:26 pm

“noliee, just odd to post something that has no meaning whatsoever.” _ Shaun

This one is really just too easy to make a smart a** remark about. I do prefer some challenge.

Efrim

August 30th, 2011
3:26 pm

DAP, whatever floats your boat. I’m not sure I see the fun it that.

You’re not DAP. You’re a robot.

Hoosier Aaron

August 30th, 2011
3:28 pm

It’s okay to mention the Magic Number once it gets to 20 isn’t it?

ncscoots

August 30th, 2011
3:28 pm

Tommy, re your 3:26, that’s why I restricted myself to a single word of incredulity, LOL.

raleighbravefan

August 30th, 2011
3:29 pm

Wow…Over the top today, even for Shaun.

ncscoots

August 30th, 2011
3:30 pm

It’s okay to mention the Magic Number once it gets to 20 isn’t it?

No. That would not be meaningful, important stuff. Would be sub-optimal, in fact.

And a little jinxy, too. Not that I believe in such things. Much.

PDOG

August 30th, 2011
3:30 pm

Why oh why does Fredi insist on hitting Agon 7th and Heyward 8th.

Jimmy

August 30th, 2011
3:30 pm

Phil – “My post was clearly meant to be moronic and stupid, not serious”

I can certify that nearly all of Phil’s post are moronic and stupid. In fact, he leads the blog in PPiP (Post Put in Play) being worthless to the ongoing conversation.

I am second. :-)

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:31 pm

cricket, hmm…I don’t see anywhere in that post that Posnanski suggests WPA is the “supreme stat.” Maybe you can fill us in on where he says or suggests that it is.

As a matter of fact, Posnanski does a really good job describing what WPA is. Maybe you didn’t really read the entire post.

Tommy T

August 30th, 2011
3:31 pm

“Why oh why does Fredi insist on hitting Agon 7th and Heyward 8th.” – PDOG

Does it matter?

Jimmy

August 30th, 2011
3:32 pm

ncscoot @ 3:00 – LOL!! Good one.

phil

August 30th, 2011
3:33 pm

Jimmy

August 30th, 2011
3:30 pm
Phil – “My post was clearly meant to be moronic and stupid, not serious”

I can certify that nearly all of Phil’s post are moronic and stupid. In fact, he leads the blog in PPiP (Post Put in Play) being worthless to the ongoing conversation.

I am second.
*****************
You’re killing me….

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…..just something meaningless to add…

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:34 pm

Shaun says “the only stats that have meaning are the ones I quote”.

Huh? I said this? Where?

Tommy T

August 30th, 2011
3:34 pm

I think I’ve discovered the gulf between Shaun and myself. I prefer to read Torre’s or Herzog’s views on the game.

phil

August 30th, 2011
3:35 pm

Tommy T

August 30th, 2011
3:31 pm
“Why oh why does Fredi insist on hitting Agon 7th and Heyward 8th.” – PDOG

Does it matter?
****************
LOL!

No. They are one and the same offensively. And Gonzo is much better defensively. I just scared myself.

csg

August 30th, 2011
3:35 pm

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:35 pm

phil, so does that mean Prado’s season is a “lost” one? Seriously, I don’t get it. Perhaps you can use your superior knowledge to explain.

noliee

August 30th, 2011
3:36 pm

the board is just overrun with such non-productive frivolousness :evil:

Tommy T

August 30th, 2011
3:37 pm

“Perhaps you can use your superior knowledge to explain.” – Shaun

See my 3:26 post. I applies here also.

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:38 pm

Tommy T, yep. And I would prefer to read Earl Weaver’s views on the game than Torre’s or Herzog’s.

Lew

August 30th, 2011
3:38 pm

Murh – It;s not a matter of taking 20 minutes to pee, but peeing 20 times every night.

phil

August 30th, 2011
3:38 pm

Shaun

August 30th, 2011
3:34 pm
Shaun says “the only stats that have meaning are the ones I quote”.

Huh? I said this? Where?
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Yet more proof of the need to see a qualified medical specialist – inability to interpret or understand humor, concrete and inflexible thinking.

raleighbravefan

August 30th, 2011
3:39 pm

Shaun – I’ve said this before…But, you remind me of a guy on the Twilight Zone (if you are too young, google it), who wakes up and finds himself in a world that makes no sense to him, and is full of people what just don’t seem to understand him. He thinks he is the only one who is not crazy. In reality, as it turns out, it’s just the opposite.

alex

August 30th, 2011
3:39 pm

Somebody,PLEEEESE get shaun away from his computer,(his mom, his nanny, his homeroom teacher), anybody.His drivel is slowing my dated dell garbage laptop…

Fire Phil and freddie, and wrenn and while your at it ME……

raleighbravefan

August 30th, 2011
3:40 pm

Shaun@3:34 – I was paraphrasing…and obvious observation, not a direct quote.

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