Time to sign off for the evening. Hey!!!! Since there’s no game…….I spent some good time on here READING about the Braves, at least. Thanks, guy-o-s. See ya……????????
Power just came back on. Lots of flooding up here and over 270 roads washed out. Could take over a month to get power back to everyone, but we’re doing fine.
I think a 4 year deal for anywhere from 8-10/yr is fair. Victorino signed a 3 year 22 million dollar deal ~7.3 million/yr. For as much as I hate Victorino he’s a good CF’er and I think comparable to Bourn. Victorino plays good defense, hits for more power but steals less bases. I think if Boras asks for over 10 he’s out of his mind as I don’t believe anyone is paying that for Bourn. I think if the Braves could get Bourn for 4 years at 9 per that would be perfect.
His agent is Boras. That is all you need to know. He will “test” free agency after 2012 and he’ll sign somewhere else. How many Boras free agents end up signing with their current team? A pretty low percent I’d guess.
Vick + eagles= epic fail. $100 million? Really? I don’t like the phillies. Cause it’s baseball. It’s rivalry but this? Nice going Philly enjoy all the karma that comes your way
3 days with no braves – I’ve spent so much time working in my yard I can’t remember which came first. My love of the braves or my disdain for yardwork that I get to avoid by loving the braves…
Last 28 days, Constanza – .337,.387,.449,.832 and that factors in his recent regression(LOL).
Heyward – .190, .255,.357,.612 and that factors in his recent upswing(LoL).
Shame on FG for letting Constanza steal playing time from the great JHEY KID!! Who happens to be hitting .188 against LHP for the year. And Constanza has hit.429 against them. Some of you guys need to reread some of your past posts of condemnation for guys that have outperformed Heyward this year. Heyward may have tons of potential, but it’s crazy to put down Constanza and act as if he hasn”t contributed and Heyward is some kind of god. Not this year.He’s barely even a mortal.
Lew – Just load you, the Mrs. and a dog or two and head down to the keys. If you want to get away from that mess and can, I’m down here ready and serious that you can stay for a week or so. Of course you may have to return the favor if during the heat wave you have every year, that it gets to 80 minimun, I might apppear. Cooler temps now cause me to turn blue, become immobile and whine for several days about being cold.
I would put MB’s value at around 5 yrs./55 million. But Boras is going to push for a lot more if Bourn can duplicate this season next year. Don’t expect any type of “hometown” discount or ANY discount for that matter if he is a Scott Boras client. One BIG difference between Bourn and Pierre that wasn’t mentioned was defense. Pierre has the worst arm for any outfielder in MLB. Seems like a good guy & by all accounts has a great work ethic but he is an absolute liability on defense.
Bourn 8 steals, 5 caught stealing = 62% = negative long term liability.
needs to pick that up. must be something in the water here that stops base stealing dead in its tracks
Maybe, given the terms of Shane Victorino’s current contract, Bourn can be signed for a reasonable amount, less than $10M, and I’d say less than $9M per year. But personally, I’d take Victorino on my team all day, everyday–and that’s no slight on Mike.
Well done, BFChris – someday I’ll have to tell the story of going up to bat with a .795 average for the year, knowing it was my last at bat, aware that I would end up at .800 or .775…or, maybe not..
(co-ed softball leagues can work well when you can place the ball with relative accuracy)… .
Thanks guys n gals. I had a lot of fun playing. We lost, but we played hard, they just played harder. 2 for 2 after not playing in a long time is actually what I call a success for me lol.
Our next game is in 2 weeks (all games will be on a Monday night), because of next Monday being Labor Day.
Shows you how the blog has suffered the last four days – 10 pages already today, yet on the last blog 2nd and 3rd place went to people who thrive on inanities and non sequiturs…
We just returned from a little place down at the Redondo Beach Pier, where we dined on appetizers and Happy Hour beverages (excellent timing with no late students and no Braves game)…kept the blog in mind when I hit the Music Machine (not exactly a Juke Box) and played Folsom Prison…
nolie – I just could not keep up with Tom staying up all night conversing with Ward…(and his padding was a bad as mine, despite what BAS claimed this morning)…
Yeah, McFann, I am disappointed in myself. I may actually like the guy. He’s a Phillie, and that shame is on me if I can’t manage to muster up some bile for him.
Being asked to think about Victorino in a Braves uniform in 2013 is a little much for me. I like the idea of keeping Bourn better at this point. But it will all play out however it plays out. I’d rather stay focused on 2011. I cannot wait to see tomorrow night’s game!
I’m not advocating signing Victorino. We’re seeing his best playing days right now, I think. He’s gonna be on the down side, or close to it, when it comes time for his next contract.
Oh well, before I break my own record here, I better call it quits for the night. Gonna be kinda weird having a game tomorrow, ha! Was kinda cool today (I think it was in the 80’s, but the humidity was low), so it almost felt like baseball’s-over type weather…especially with no weekend games…
Learning how to navigate on a MAC. Reports will be slow from here on until I get up to speed. I’m old. It’ll take awhile. Hey. LEW, hope you haven’t been washed away.
What I see is that Bourn has played well in Atlanta. A star that has no history of disturbing the clubhouse. There no single negative thing you can say about that guy. So why shouldnt the Braves go ink him?
Theres almost nothing else that the braves are looking for but a CF. Constanza, Heyward and Prado are set for next season…………IF is also set…………SP is set………….
Ink you leadoff guy whom is a star…………..lets do it.
timing is good Saturday – going to see USC-Minnesota, but will get home in time to see Tribe-UVA on ESPN3.com – (and since Braves play Dodgers, can listen to beginning of game on the radio on the way home)…
Yes sign Bourn for whatever. Sorry but Constanza does not have same year in 2012. If anything Constanza is trade bait along with McLousy in the off season.
.sigh Mclouth is a FA after this season…. try and keep up people. Constanza has no trade value. His best value is either as AAA depth or as a 4th OF’er for the Braves.
I honestly still think we should trade Prado while he still has some value, cus I’m afraid that he will not have much if he keeps regressing.
he is not regressing. in statistical terms regression means to go toward the established mean whichever way that is. at this point he would be regressing if he were getting better, which is not what you seem to be meaning
Hello Every one!I read some of the comments on Bourn again,and I say sign him to a five year deal with an 1 year extension,and a bonus for great numbers……..
1,264 comments Add your comment
Just Pat
August 29th, 2011
8:50 pm
Lew
So glad to hear it. A lot of your “fans” on here today were worried about you (including me).
tiger297
August 29th, 2011
8:52 pm
stanley isn’t cheating on you he is spending time in the dog house with nolie…
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2011
8:52 pm
I mean that you and yours are doing fine and have your power back.
Just Pat
August 29th, 2011
8:54 pm
Time to sign off for the evening. Hey!!!! Since there’s no game…….I spent some good time on here READING about the Braves, at least. Thanks, guy-o-s. See ya……????????
brian d
August 29th, 2011
8:55 pm
I’ve been reading the blog for three years or so. I’m glad you are ok Lew.
z
August 29th, 2011
8:58 pm
Should they sign Bourn? Is this a serious question?
Sally Fingelsten
August 29th, 2011
9:00 pm
thank you dear…
D.J.
August 29th, 2011
9:01 pm
Further evidence that Martin Prado is awesome: http://ow.ly/i/gtC4
Bravefaninok
August 29th, 2011
9:05 pm
Lew
August 29th, 2011
8:49 pm
Power just came back on. Lots of flooding up here and over 270 roads washed out. Could take over a month to get power back to everyone, but we’re doing fine.
Good to hear Lew,Glad you and yours are doing ok.
T for Texas
August 29th, 2011
9:08 pm
Shane Victorino. Nemesis.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2011
9:11 pm
Well that explains how that score went from 1-1 to 3-1 in the wrong direction.
Bourn
August 29th, 2011
9:16 pm
I think a 4 year deal for anywhere from 8-10/yr is fair. Victorino signed a 3 year 22 million dollar deal ~7.3 million/yr. For as much as I hate Victorino he’s a good CF’er and I think comparable to Bourn. Victorino plays good defense, hits for more power but steals less bases. I think if Boras asks for over 10 he’s out of his mind as I don’t believe anyone is paying that for Bourn. I think if the Braves could get Bourn for 4 years at 9 per that would be perfect.
Spud
August 29th, 2011
9:23 pm
His agent is Boras. That is all you need to know. He will “test” free agency after 2012 and he’ll sign somewhere else. How many Boras free agents end up signing with their current team? A pretty low percent I’d guess.
Salt life
August 29th, 2011
9:23 pm
Vick + eagles= epic fail. $100 million? Really? I don’t like the phillies. Cause it’s baseball. It’s rivalry but this? Nice going Philly enjoy all the karma that comes your way
Kat
August 29th, 2011
9:27 pm
Lew-
Glad you are okay. I’ve been watching the local news seeing the flooding in the Catskills and Vermont…very crazy. Although there’s little coverge on the national media since those places aren’t NYC. Hopefully they’ll get some aid out to you folks soon. Some crazy videos http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/videos-show-upstate-york-vermont-irene-flooding-153510538.html
tiger297
August 29th, 2011
9:36 pm
3 days with no braves – I’ve spent so much time working in my yard I can’t remember which came first. My love of the braves or my disdain for yardwork that I get to avoid by loving the braves…
Nova Scotia Steve
August 29th, 2011
9:39 pm
I’m glad to hear everything is alright as well Lew.
All the best
monty
August 29th, 2011
9:40 pm
Last 28 days, Constanza – .337,.387,.449,.832 and that factors in his recent regression(LOL).
Heyward – .190, .255,.357,.612 and that factors in his recent upswing(LoL).
Shame on FG for letting Constanza steal playing time from the great JHEY KID!! Who happens to be hitting .188 against LHP for the year. And Constanza has hit.429 against them. Some of you guys need to reread some of your past posts of condemnation for guys that have outperformed Heyward this year. Heyward may have tons of potential, but it’s crazy to put down Constanza and act as if he hasn”t contributed and Heyward is some kind of god. Not this year.He’s barely even a mortal.
keylargo
August 29th, 2011
9:41 pm
Lew – Just load you, the Mrs. and a dog or two and head down to the keys. If you want to get away from that mess and can, I’m down here ready and serious that you can stay for a week or so. Of course you may have to return the favor if during the heat wave you have every year, that it gets to 80 minimun, I might apppear. Cooler temps now cause me to turn blue, become immobile and whine for several days about being cold.
Hard on the Beaver Ward
August 29th, 2011
9:42 pm
Why not. The Braves have a history of offering extensions without any concrete proof of performance.
Ron Hyatt
August 29th, 2011
9:44 pm
Joey Terdoslavich
Boy oh boy, the nickname for this one. Turd Sammich.
tiger297
August 29th, 2011
9:49 pm
kl – is it getting below 80 at night down there yet?
keylargo
August 29th, 2011
9:53 pm
Tiger – It’s going to be 90+ daytime and 80+ nighttime for another month or so.
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33043
chris
August 29th, 2011
10:08 pm
I would put MB’s value at around 5 yrs./55 million. But Boras is going to push for a lot more if Bourn can duplicate this season next year. Don’t expect any type of “hometown” discount or ANY discount for that matter if he is a Scott Boras client. One BIG difference between Bourn and Pierre that wasn’t mentioned was defense. Pierre has the worst arm for any outfielder in MLB. Seems like a good guy & by all accounts has a great work ethic but he is an absolute liability on defense.
noliee
August 29th, 2011
10:10 pm
sure lets pay 10mil per for 5 years for a guy having a career year.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2011
10:13 pm
Actually that’s 11 mil per, but who’s counting? Except Scott Boras, of course.
noliee
August 29th, 2011
10:14 pm
Bourn 8 steals, 5 caught stealing = 62% = negative long term liability.
needs to pick that up. must be something in the water here that stops base stealing dead in its tracks
noliee
August 29th, 2011
10:15 pm
I wasn’t referring to just that post. 10mil or so has been thrown around a lot today
BFChris26
August 29th, 2011
10:23 pm
Just got back from my 1st Church Softball League Game. I was 2 for 2 with 3 RBIs. Both RBI singles.
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2011
10:25 pm
Congratulations, BFChris!
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
10:30 pm
nolieee must be something in the water here that stops base stealing dead in its tracks
Hmm…we really need to get better involved with providing proper hydration for the opposition…
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
10:30 pm
That’s great, BFChris!
noliee
August 29th, 2011
10:31 pm
gotta step it up a notch, chicks dig the long ball Chris
T for Texas
August 29th, 2011
10:32 pm
Maybe, given the terms of Shane Victorino’s current contract, Bourn can be signed for a reasonable amount, less than $10M, and I’d say less than $9M per year. But personally, I’d take Victorino on my team all day, everyday–and that’s no slight on Mike.
noliee
August 29th, 2011
10:33 pm
he says as two dffferent ladies give Chris kudos
noliee
August 29th, 2011
10:33 pm
I like Mr. Hawaii too
T for Texas
August 29th, 2011
10:38 pm
He wrecked a very good start by Homer Bailey tonight. 2 run dinger to make it 3-1. Clutch.
T for Texas
August 29th, 2011
10:40 pm
That power is what I think makes Victorino a superior ballplayer to Bourn.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
10:40 pm
noliee—
I’ll take any hit, especially if it comes with an RBI or two (or three…)!
Of course, you all know what my FAVORITE kind of hit is……
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
10:41 pm
noliee I like Mr. Hawaii too
This may be the last thing I ever say to you…
T for Texas
August 29th, 2011
10:43 pm
Aw, c’mon McFann. You know that hating a ballplayer is the closest you can get to loving a ballplayer.
noliee
August 29th, 2011
10:43 pm
McF, its all Tfor’s fault. he brought Shane up and made me say nice things about him………..
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
10:44 pm
Well done, BFChris – someday I’ll have to tell the story of going up to bat with a .795 average for the year, knowing it was my last at bat, aware that I would end up at .800 or .775…or, maybe not..
(co-ed softball leagues can work well when you can place the ball with relative accuracy)…
.
BFChris26
August 29th, 2011
10:45 pm
Thanks guys n gals. I had a lot of fun playing. We lost, but we played hard, they just played harder. 2 for 2 after not playing in a long time is actually what I call a success for me lol.
Our next game is in 2 weeks (all games will be on a Monday night), because of next Monday being Labor Day.
tiger297
August 29th, 2011
10:46 pm
peckertino I do not like and regardless of his skill I would not want him on a team I support…
noliee
August 29th, 2011
10:47 pm
oh poop
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
10:48 pm
Shows you how the blog has suffered the last four days – 10 pages already today, yet on the last blog 2nd and 3rd place went to people who thrive on inanities and non sequiturs…
T for Texas
August 29th, 2011
10:48 pm
See, McFann. Tiger practically adores Victorino.
tiger297
August 29th, 2011
10:48 pm
vj – poor pitch recognition combined with slow bat speed results in many Ric Flair’s to right…but we can call it placement if you like
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
10:49 pm
Of course, #1 was a non-ending font of baseball wisdom and acumen…
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
10:50 pm
And 4th place was the most enthusiastic of all of us…
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
10:50 pm
noliee—
Hmm…I can’t decide if I should let that slide or not…
T for Texas—
That thin line between love and hate, eh? Not this time…that line is 9 feet think and made of solid STEEL, man!!
noliee
August 29th, 2011
10:50 pm
was I second or third???
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
10:51 pm
tiger297 – when the weakest player on the team is in right, the arc of the pitch plays itself perfectly into the double down the right field line…
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
10:51 pm
V. Jim—
Enthusiastic and starving for some BASEBAAAALLLL!!!
Yowza…just a few long hours to go!…
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
10:52 pm
1 noliee 216
2 Tom O’Hawke 159
3 Venice Jim 141
4 McFann :Ô: :Ô: 129
5 cabravesfan 97
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
10:52 pm
V. Jim Of course, #1 was a non-ending font of baseball wisdom and acumen…
Whoa, wait…I thought you said I was 4th…
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
10:52 pm
I was about to comment on 5th place, but she is beyond my commenting capability…
T for Texas
August 29th, 2011
10:53 pm
Alright, McF. I will take you, and tiger’s at your word on the depth of your dislike for Shane.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
10:54 pm
BFChris—
A success for sure! Sorry your team lost, though…
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
10:55 pm
T for Texas—
I mean, I don’t wish any harm on the guy, but I do like when he makes outs/errors, stuff like that…especially against us!…
noliee
August 29th, 2011
10:58 pm
wow, 216? no wonder you said non-stop
tiger297
August 29th, 2011
10:59 pm
mcfann is nicer than me…I shall leave it at that for now
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
10:59 pm
We just returned from a little place down at the Redondo Beach Pier, where we dined on appetizers and Happy Hour beverages (excellent timing with no late students and no Braves game)…kept the blog in mind when I hit the Music Machine (not exactly a Juke Box) and played Folsom Prison…
tiger297
August 29th, 2011
10:59 pm
I had 59 on the last blog and didn’t post for the last 2-3 days of it
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
11:00 pm
nolie – I just could not keep up with Tom staying up all night conversing with Ward…(and his padding was a bad as mine, despite what BAS claimed this morning)…
T for Texas
August 29th, 2011
11:01 pm
Yeah, McFann, I am disappointed in myself. I may actually like the guy. He’s a Phillie, and that shame is on me if I can’t manage to muster up some bile for him.
noliee
August 29th, 2011
11:01 pm
well in my defense, many of mine were storm related……..
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
11:01 pm
(unless you count the last ten posts there after the new blog posted)…
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
11:01 pm
129 might be a record for me…didn’t even think I was posting that much—my apologies to everyone!
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
11:02 pm
T for Texas—
Tsk tsk tsk…that is pretty bad!
MIBravesFan
August 29th, 2011
11:02 pm
Being asked to think about Victorino in a Braves uniform in 2013 is a little much for me. I like the idea of keeping Bourn better at this point. But it will all play out however it plays out. I’d rather stay focused on 2011. I cannot wait to see tomorrow night’s game!
Have a good night, everyone, and take care.
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
11:06 pm
nolie – well, that was the main topic, so you need not defend yourself…
T for Texas
August 29th, 2011
11:09 pm
I’m not advocating signing Victorino. We’re seeing his best playing days right now, I think. He’s gonna be on the down side, or close to it, when it comes time for his next contract.
tiger297
August 29th, 2011
11:14 pm
everybody see our boys serving at Mortons?
http://ow.ly/i/gtC4
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
11:14 pm
Oh well, before I break my own record here, I better call it quits for the night. Gonna be kinda weird having a game tomorrow, ha! Was kinda cool today (I think it was in the 80’s, but the humidity was low), so it almost felt like baseball’s-over type weather…especially with no weekend games…
But anyhoo, Night, all!
David O'Brien
August 29th, 2011
11:15 pm
Since the start of the 2009 season, Michael Bourn has more steals (160) than Jose Reyes (75) and Jimmy Rollins (76) combined.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
11:15 pm
tiger—
OK, that’s hilarious! What in the world…?
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
August 29th, 2011
11:21 pm
Ah-ha! Here’s the deal-ee-o…
http://www.danuggla.org/news_events.php?nID=12
Cute…OK, I’m really out, now…
BFChris26
August 29th, 2011
11:39 pm
There were other Braves fans at the softball game too, but they were playing in a different game tho.
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
11:39 pm
Looks like McFann’s departure killed the blog – well, last night it was my presence…
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
11:40 pm
And Chris ruins the timing of my post…
tiger297
August 29th, 2011
11:42 pm
when its sleepy time down south…wait am I still allowed to use this or is it time for me to give it up?
richbrave
August 29th, 2011
11:43 pm
Learning how to navigate on a MAC. Reports will be slow from here on until I get up to speed. I’m old. It’ll take awhile. Hey. LEW, hope you haven’t been washed away.
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
11:43 pm
tiger297 – you own it now – I wish I ha my own catch phrase…
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
11:44 pm
“had”
richbrave
August 29th, 2011
11:45 pm
VJ:
SEAN LISSAMORE got some good ink in the sports section today.
Doc Holliday
August 29th, 2011
11:45 pm
What I see is that Bourn has played well in Atlanta. A star that has no history of disturbing the clubhouse. There no single negative thing you can say about that guy. So why shouldnt the Braves go ink him?
Theres almost nothing else that the braves are looking for but a CF. Constanza, Heyward and Prado are set for next season…………IF is also set…………SP is set………….
Ink you leadoff guy whom is a star…………..lets do it.
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
11:45 pm
richbbrave – it’s late – go to bed, old man…
How is everything in my old stomping grounds?
Venice Jim
August 29th, 2011
11:49 pm
timing is good Saturday – going to see USC-Minnesota, but will get home in time to see Tribe-UVA on ESPN3.com – (and since Braves play Dodgers, can listen to beginning of game on the radio on the way home)…
BFChris26
August 29th, 2011
11:51 pm
BFChris26
August 29th, 2011
11:52 pm
I is so sore right now
But I had loads of fun
Venice Jim
August 30th, 2011
12:06 am
Lincecum got hit hard by the Cubs tonight – 5 runs in 6 innings – Cubs up 6-0 in the 7th…
Venice Jim
August 30th, 2011
12:07 am
Looks like 9 game wild card lead – unless the Giants score twice as many runs in the last three innings as they normally do in a game…
Venice Jim
August 30th, 2011
12:10 am
Okay – no more talking to myself – good night, me…
NO MORE PARRISH
August 30th, 2011
12:28 am
Pretty sure the Giant’s fire their hitting coach after this season. Crap! I had no idea someone could be worse than Parrish.
NO MORE PARRISH
August 30th, 2011
12:30 am
Yes sign Bourn for whatever. Sorry but Constanza does not have same year in 2012. If anything Constanza is trade bait along with McLousy in the off season.
NickB
August 30th, 2011
12:32 am
.sigh Mclouth is a FA after this season…. try and keep up people. Constanza has no trade value. His best value is either as AAA depth or as a 4th OF’er for the Braves.
I honestly still think we should trade Prado while he still has some value, cus I’m afraid that he will not have much if he keeps regressing.
noliee
August 30th, 2011
1:36 am
he is not regressing. in statistical terms regression means to go toward the established mean whichever way that is. at this point he would be regressing if he were getting better, which is not what you seem to be meaning
Ward
August 30th, 2011
2:36 am
Hello Every one!I read some of the comments on Bourn again,and I say sign him to a five year deal with an 1 year extension,and a bonus for great numbers……..