Hanson returns to ATL to have shoulder checked again

CHICAGO – Braves pitcher Tommy Hanson returned to Atlanta on Thursday to have another checkup and MRI on his troublesome right shoulder

He was diagnosed with tendinitis after an Aug. 9 MRI showed no structural damage, the second MRI and shoulder-tendinitis diagnosis this season for Hanson. He had a DL stint and a cortisone shot for the ailment in June.

When asked before Thursday’s MRI if the Braves were worried, manager Fredi Gonzalez said no, that team trainers still believed it was only tendinitis.

“They think maybe we haven’t given it enough time, maybe he needs a little bit more rest,” Gonzalez said. “The test before showed nothing, just showed a little tendinitis. But sometimes you want something to happen quickly and it takes a little longer.”

The Braves had planned for Hanson to make a minor-league rehab start Saturday, but that plan was scrapped after he had next-day soreness from a mere nine-pitch mound session Monday.

“He’s a competitor and he wants to pitch,” Gonzalez said. “It just doesn’t feel right.”

Monday was the first time Hanson threw on a mound since Aug. 6, when he was rocked for a career-high four homers and seven runs in 3-1/3 innings against the Mets.

He has a 1-3 record with an 8.10 ERA and .313 opponents’ average in five starts since the All-Star break, after going 10-4 with a 2.44 ERA and .190 OA before the break.

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John A

August 25th, 2011
4:11 pm

Until Hanson changes his delivery, he will continue to have shoulder problems. In other words….his career is at an end!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Summer of George

August 25th, 2011
4:11 pm

Glad to see D Lowe had another good outing….He did not deserve the 3 runs and loss…

Summer of George

August 25th, 2011
4:15 pm

For all the D Lowe bashers out there, he is having another strong finish to the year….
That’s good because some of the starters that are completely counted on haven’t been very consistent….

jfreak13713

August 25th, 2011
4:21 pm

Hate to see young guy have shoulder issues like this. I agree that long term this doesn’t look good but Doctors and Braves staff are better at this than me otherwise I would be there and they would be here! Go Braves!

@ John A

August 25th, 2011
4:25 pm

You’re amazing if you can tell as much from watching someone on TV. I guess you must be a super-scout then with a PhD in kinesiology. Moron.

RWill2073

August 25th, 2011
4:26 pm

Yeah, we need to get what we can in a trade for him. We’ve seen the best of him. Just look at Chris Young of the Mets. That’s Hanson’s future unless he changes his arm angle.

Wes

August 25th, 2011
4:27 pm

beachy just can’t finish. but his ability to open is epic

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joelpaco

August 25th, 2011
4:38 pm

Wes, nice “Sex Drive” reference, lol

Schweaty Balls

August 25th, 2011
4:44 pm

With Hanson’s delivery, its no wonder he has arm problems. You cannot pitch with his kind of herky jerky arm action and not eventually have arm problems. Its a wonder he did not have any before this.

RWill2073

August 25th, 2011
4:57 pm

@schweaty: It’s not about his herky jerky delivery, it’s how high he lifts his elbow. As long as he lifts his elbow above his shoulder level, he’s going to hurt his shoulder.

[...] O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports that Hanson has already had two MRI exams, with the first one leading to a disabled list stint and [...]

Gil In Mechanicsville

August 25th, 2011
5:46 pm

Shades of Mark Wholers… Had control issues and MRI repeatedly showed nothing, turned out to be a big something… Yes, his delivery has been an issue from day one, just not something conducive to a long career in the majors.

alanfalcon

August 25th, 2011
6:07 pm

Beachy is just learning the art of being a major league pitcher, he has done a great job and will only get better as will Minor.

Soundwave

August 25th, 2011
6:22 pm

Brandon Beachy superior. Derek Lowe inferior.

dawgsfan1990

August 25th, 2011
6:50 pm

Hanson looks like hes throwing a dart out there…do dart throwers have chronic shoulder issues?

Keep it Real

August 25th, 2011
7:37 pm

None of the people on this blog know what the future holds for Hansen. It could be something serious or it could be something that just needs time to get better. Give it a rest and wait for him to either come back or be diagnosed with something other than tendonitis.

Keep it Real

August 25th, 2011
7:40 pm

One other observation. Jair looked awful the other night. I hope his arm is OK. We could be going down the stretch and in the playoffs with Hudson, Lowe, Beachey and Minor.

Lobosolo

August 25th, 2011
8:00 pm

Where did all of you get this information about arm angle, delivery, and injuries? Is it possible you have info the rest of us don’t have… Does the arm angle have anything to do with the many pitching injuries that occur to OTHER pitchers w/o that same motion? You guys never cease to amaze me with your self-appointed expertise…

Dawgdad (The Original)

August 25th, 2011
8:41 pm

Lobosolo, it is simple, his throwing motion is not natural. Notice you do not see other pitchers throwing like Tommy. Unnatural motion MAY cause damage to muscle and joints over time or he may adapt to it and be fine.

Clarkesville Fan

August 25th, 2011
9:04 pm

Those siting delivery are right – he’s all arm, nothing from the legs goes into the delivery. I’ve said for 2 years he was an accident waiting to happen. I hate it because I really like him but he’ll be washed up in 5 years with arm problems.

[...] handed pitcher Tommy Hanson returned to Atlanta to have his shoulder checked again according to David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. He was diagnosed with shoulder tendinitis earlier this month, but the MRI showed no structural [...]

mathman

August 25th, 2011
9:42 pm

Flande pitches 6 inn tonight for Gwinnett, 1 hit, 1ER. Scoreless inning for Hoover; scoreless inning for Moylan. 2 hits and 2 Rbi’s for Helms. Hoover is going to be another good reliever.

mathman

August 25th, 2011
9:43 pm

Hoover throws hard too. 3 K’s in 1 inning tonight. Throws 94-95

BobDawg

August 25th, 2011
10:27 pm

John A and others , you are right…. throws very wristy with his elbow up… An SI several weeks ago had a pitcher coming up for the Diamondbacks and he has a delivery like Lincecum which is now being touted as the perfect delivery with no strain on the arm…Elbow stays down and lots of leg and lower torso action…I think Hanson’s fastball is barely above 90 mph also. I hope he has invested his money well….

Wags...not rags.

August 26th, 2011
12:27 am

Billy Wagner had nearly the same delivery from the left side. “M” shape angles at the foot plant, elbow much higher than shoulder, actually worse than Tommy from a technical standpoint. He had a long career and was very effective last year. Not sure about guaranteed arm problems with his delivery like the pundits say. Smoltz had shoulder issues for years with the typical smooth “W” angles at the foot plant. Sure, Tommy ‘chicken wings’ it, but so did a lot of others over the years without problems….remember Russ Ortiz?

Rwill

August 26th, 2011
12:43 am

Wagner’s longevity was aided by the fact that he was a reliever. Other pitchers with bad arm angles? Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, Adam Wainwright, Chris Young, Matt Cain (he will have elbow problems in next few years), Jordan Zimmerman, Stephen Strasburgh, Brandon Beachy, and of course, John Smoltz. Just off the top of my head. Could find plenty more. Hanson doesn’t have quite the same problems as most of those guys, except for Chris Young. He’d be fine if he just didn’t lift his elbow up so high. As is, his shoulder will always be problematic.

Rwill

August 26th, 2011
12:47 am

@ Wags: Russ Ortiz is proof that that short arm delivery could be ok. He never raised his elbow above his shoulder. Hanson does, which causes the arm injury. As far as John Smoltz went, he was a freak of nature to be able to come back from so many injuries, but his arm action was bad. Definetely had the “M” look when his foot planted. Put extra stress on his shoulder.

bravesfaninNashville

August 26th, 2011
3:37 am

It seems like the natural progression of things will be the JJ and Tommy Hanson will not sign long term contracts with the Braves because 1 they are Scott Boras clients and 2 they are injury prone. Boras will get some pitching desperate team to overpay for them the way the Braves overpaid for Derek Lowe and the Yankees overpaid for A.J. Burnett. In the meantime the Braves will continue to develop and parade out to the mound talents like Beachy, Minor, Medlen, Viscainio, Delgado, Teheran and now Gilmartian. Not to mention our dominant home grown bullpen. It’s only a matter of time before the Braves will either trade Lowe, JJ and Hanson or they will leave for new contracts. As soon as JJ or Hanson has a healthy stretch and pitches well I would trade them for position prospects at 3b, SS and OF and move on to the well of pitching that Frank Wren and the talented scouts that work with him have assembled. It’s going to be good to be a Braves fan for a long time. The division will soon be ours for several years to come.

Arkie

August 26th, 2011
7:20 am

Another good outing for Lowe. I would shut Hanson down for the year. In 2010 I was stating that he would have severe problems with his delivery. Arm angle and he starts, almost stops, then really jerks his shoulder as he throws. Maybe off season shoulder exersizes and some delivery changes will help. We are all for you Tommy. I am still pissed off at Fredi and McDowell for leaving you in your last game. when we all knew something was wrong. McDowell should know his pitchers. I believe he plays catch with them. Bring in some one who knows pitching. (Maddog – Maddox) Go Braves – Go Chipper!!

[...] AJC, Hanson returns to ATL to have shoulder checked again- This should be every Braves fan’s biggest concern right now. Hanson has already dropped in velocity, he may need major surgery, and it’s his shoulder not his elbow. That’s not good [...]

Kharma

August 26th, 2011
8:14 am

I don’t know what the future holds for Mr Hanson but I do know that cortisone shots and rest are not the answer. It is his side to side action of hos humerus bone that is causing the problem. Easy to fix.
The Braves should give science a try.

Lemke's Knuckler

August 26th, 2011
11:21 am

http://chop-n-change.com/2011-articles/january/the-evolution-of-tommy-hanson.html

Not sure how to link on here, but the article above shows that Hanson has been more over the top this year versus the more 3/4 delivery he had in 2009/2010.

Seems pretty clear cut why his shoulder is bothering him. Someone send this link to McDowell.

randy_bottoms

August 27th, 2011
12:04 am

Most of these comments are dumb. He hasn’t even had to have surgery yet and the end of his career is being discussed.

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